Right!!! If they had ordered the tests asap instead of waiting 3 months, the parents would probably still be alive and the baby wouldn’t be an orphan. Smh. So messed up
Just another heartbreaking story in which doctors, judges, lawyers, and social workers ruined lives and didn't have to take any kind of responsibility for it. Makes me sick.
Even when their tiny remaining family member died. Man someone else is going to move in to the parents' house and the house of the grandparents. The money should be given to charity and the friends of the grandparents and parents.
Why didn't the lawyer suggest petitioning the court to expedite the tests? The judge had ordered them as "emergency" treatment, which indicates that testing should be performed immediately. Too many social workers are all about ego and close their minds to other possibilities. The delay in testing was an obvious ploy to feed their egos because being right was more important than getting to the truth. However, I suspect they really weren't so sure. If they were so positive, they would gladly have the tests done asap. Social workers should be required to undergo intensive psychological analysis to reveal who they really are...before they are unleashed on the public. These two put the parents through hell for no good reason at all, destroying them and their families. Those social workers should have been thoroughly investigated and reprimanded for their despicable behavior.
A lot of things went wrong and an entire family had to pay for it. I would have thought as cops both parents would have gotten multiple attorneys' opinions.
@jackiegreiner8303 problem is cops are underpaid so even getting a consultation could break the bank for most. Where I lived a few years ago only paid cops about 30,000 a year and where I live now it's only about 45,000 a year
There should be a law where, if the symptoms expressed could be explained by a medical condition, test for that condition before long-term (more than seven days) alternative solutions are implemented, especially if a person could be removed from the care of a primary caretaker.
So if a family turns up to a hospital with a child that, by the looks of it, has been severely abused, they should just send the kid to be with the parents again until every possible alternative explanation has been exhausted?
Ok so basically instead of assuming they were guilty, had they just run the tests, all of this could’ve been avoided.. so why tf didn’t they just run the tests??
Because Child Services is an entire industry of abusers themselves. They should be renamed 'We snatch happy kids from good parents and put them in the foster system'. The majority of the system is so f*cked up and they don't care whatsoever whose loves they ruin. And they never ever admit when they're wrong, and they're wrong a whole lot of the time. Social workers are garbage, but most foster parents are gold.
😢 😠.. I have seen first hand, a social worker having a total ego trip aka, being a total shithead, bc she was training a new young lady. I also saw the judge hand her, her azz back to her in open court, shutting her bad attitude down. 👍
Omg this was the SADDEST story ever….prayers for those poor grandparents….i hope they take comfort in knowing that baby Alyssa is finally safe w her parents where no one can pass judgement. ❤
Jackie and Paul should've sued those people!! I know it wouldn't bring the parents back or change baby Alyssa's diagnosis... but man those people... smh
I agree. But just because [suing the social workers/ CPS] wouldn't bring back the parents or change the poor baby's diagnosis.... it COULD possibly prevent such a tragedy from occurring again by having such genetic tests rushed.
By tragedy , i mean separating a teemibally ill child from their parents (who had done nothing to harm the child), and hopefully preventing the other parents from suffering such a tragic end (murder/ suicide) due to life shattering assumptions made by CPS....
They did.. they lost. They even said that the diagnosis proves nothing. That only "forceful yanking"😂 could've been the cause.. even though there were no bruises or external injuries, which ISNT consistent with abuse, especially if it's in various stages of healing. . they are such sore losers they can't admit they looked like complete CLOWNS till the end.
OMG! This has to be one of the worst or possibly worst stories I've heard Mr. Ballen tell. I've heard some terrible stuff, but this really hit me. I don't know these people, but I feel so bad for them and their families. This shouldn't have happened this way. Bad enough that baby had a death sentence, but the parents were done absolutely wrong. I've been falsely accused of child abuse and let me tell you, just like this story, these social workers/child protective don't give a damn about you or those they claim to be protecting. They don't listen, they are conniving, they don't do any due diligence no matter what evidence or thoughts you convey. It's a bunch of bull to put it lightly. This literally broke my heart. Just terrible. One thing I learned if you're ever accused of something like this. NEVER talk to anyone without a lawyer. Sad, but true. This story was the worst. I'm glad Mr. Ballen brings these stories to light, as tragic as they may be, so that these people can be remembered and thought of in this cruel world.
I've watched the interrogation of Tiffany. It's been awhile but it made an impression on me that has stuck. Detectives were coming at her hard. And she wouldn't back down regardless of what tactics they tried to use. They couldn't get one drop of doubt planted in her. And she wasn't meek or uncontrollably emotional, she was angry, you could hear it in her voice but she was calm and controlled. She knew her husband would never abuse their baby in a million years. And i had never heard of the case before or the outcome but her demeanor and behavior convinced me he was innocent. After watching so many videos about parents repeatedly abusing their kids and dying because CPS failed to do their jobs, this really irritates the hell out of me. But I do think that the doctor should have been the one to ask for more tests in addition to his mandatory reporting obligations. 11 broken bones in the same part of the body without indication of injuries or abuse anywhere else, should have raised doubts about the cause.
I was a medical social worker in Pediatrics for 12-1/2 years. I had many cases in which a child experienced an injury. First of all, the social worker is dependent on rhe mefical staff to tell her if the injury fit the story. Any pending diagnostic studies needed to be considered before leaping to a conclusion of child abuse. My approach was to ask if the parent could possibly have forgotten anything. Being accusitory right off the bat is the worst way to elicit cooperation from the parents. Most of the time a parent will confess to dropping the baby. An innocent parent will respond positively to unconditional positive regard.
This exact thing happened to me and my ex-wife. We had twin girls that were taken by the state for 2 years with no testing done only to find out they had brittle bone disease. And to get our kids back they made a sign papers stating that we couldn't sue them if we wanted our kids back.
This is just horrendous. That poor baby girl, the parents. Thanks to the legal system and the arrogance of the social workers involved, so many people suffered . And no apology! My God. So many people should have been taken aside and investigated here. Shame on them all.
no one's talking about how irresponsible it was for this lawyer to suggest tiff leave her husband without inquiring about whether it was safe for her to do so. her husband was already a powder keg, and he had a service weapon in the home. suggesting a person leave a very unstable, armed partner during such a tense time off the cuff is so incredibly dangerous.
Sometimes when ALL hope is gone .. just hang on for another day.. sometimes it could change everything.. If they only got that call sooner.. 🤦♂️ She most likely mentioned Divorce and that was what sent him over the edge.. so sad.
This is absolutely tragic. Unreal! God bless them. Hopefully they are all together with God In heaven. Where Alyssa can grow up pain free. Also those grandparents. Hope there doing well now. And found some form of solace
What a sad and tragic story.. It Seems to me, child protective service Take away the baby from the wrong parents and get the baby back to the parents who are doing the abusing, And and up hurting they're baby even more.. God bless grandparents parents the little baby.
Wow that was incredibly sad 😢 and enlightening. The parents should have been looked at after all medical tests. No one should be made to feel that leaving their only child was the only answer. Yes, the parents are usually the first ones suspected of hurting their child. Investigating the parents would have been smart to do. The only good thing that all three are together in the end.😢
This would be better if we do learn the names of the Social Workers who causes this mishaps, they should be charges for their crime and be removed from any possible clients also.
I had to pause the video when the parents parents arrived. I knew on my heart what had happened but was bracing myself for it. This has got to be the most tragic one so far.....wow ..
Mr balllen has told so many stories but this is saddest I ever heard...... USA needs to be strict with these so called social worker These woke people murdered a hopeful couple just by their arrogance..... This is making me sick
woke people?? seriously??????? you weirdos will toss that word into A N Y T H I N G. there's no one on the left™️ who would have approved of EMERGENCY TESTING being postponed 3 months. i wish they would have just gotten that judge's office on the phone. 🥺
That’s just sad… why are social workers so hell-bent on getting innocent people to lose their children but then you hear cases like Gabriel Fernandez and so many other child abuse cases were the children actually die at the hands of their own parents? I don’t understand it!
To say this is tragic would be an understatement. That organ music is horrendous. It’s how I played at age six. I can’t be the only one to have wondered why one, awful organ interlude sounds like the right hand is in fear of the left.
What I don’t understand is why the police were questioning the parents and why was there a court date set and why was all these things going into place? If the parents were guilty when they haven’t even run that test everything should’ve been postponed for three months until that test was conducted.
I've been around social workers for about 25 years. My parents have been foster parents for about this long. They can make or break a family. They take sides as well. Favoring mom or dad. Meanwhile foster parents see injustices and are rarely heard. Same goes for instances where social workers want to remove children from a home. Sometimes they are overzealous and jump to every conclusion. I understand they are acting on the behalf of the child. Their job is to move the child to a safe environment while a "just " investigation takes place. We were taught in foster care meetings and trainings that REUNIFICATION is the number one goal and priority for these children. Whithin reason of course😢
Don't let any government entity take your kids from you, they are more likely to suffer physical and sexual abuse in the foster system or from the government agencies themselves
Thank you John for your amazing stories. This is so sad! 😢 It's really too bad they couldn't just do the tests instead of assume. And for the grandparents, losing a daughter and then a granddaughter that close together and so young. Sad all around... 😟
So so sad! This should have never happened to the family. Obviously assuming they were child m****** was wrong! Before assuming such horrible things double check medically before. So sad I send my sympathy for this family xx 😭
My niece’s father used to pick her up and twist her around to face him, more than one time her shoulders would come out of joint, simple play can and does harm your children, you have to be so careful, this story is so sad.
This happens so often social workers are given too much authority over situations they have no knowledge over. It’s all based off of their opinion. It’s horrible!!!
Who says the SWs can't be the real abusers while the child is in transit? What about the foster parents who turn out to be abusers? This was totally avoidable. Even though the illness was terminal, they could have had other children without such debilitation. 👀
Sounds more like she told him she would divorce him, and he fights his life was over anyway, so he would punish her for divorcing before taking himself out, too. If that's the case, he was never a fit parent even without having perpetrated abuse before. Severe depression is one thing, but to take it out on another is a choice.
@@decyattysyachpchyolnah, i doubt it. He thought life was over for the both of them when at her grandfathers house. He rushed out with the excuse he was going for a walk but already knew what he was gonna do. He just went straight home, shot her then himself
Dude, I didn't think this gotta be THE most heartbreaking story you've told
I know right! 😔
Absolutely! Just heartbreaking
😞😥💔..........
Gave me goosebumps! So sad…
Absolutely, 100% agree with you
This was the saddest "Mr.Ballen story" I have ever heard. Bless those Grandparents for all the heartache they had to endure.
Absolutely
I can't believe these social workers still have a job!!!
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Replace job with life and you would be 10x more accurate
Right!!! If they had ordered the tests asap instead of waiting 3 months, the parents would probably still be alive and the baby wouldn’t be an orphan. Smh. So messed up
Social workers need to be reprimanded. 2 lives lost due to their arrogance.
The doctor should have known something else was going on with that many fractures as well. He's just as bad.
Reprimanded? I would think they deserve far worse than that
Jail
Just another heartbreaking story in which doctors, judges, lawyers, and social workers ruined lives and didn't have to take any kind of responsibility for it. Makes me sick.
Those grandparents pretty much lost everyone, this is a hard listen. Thanks for telling it so well. ❤
I imagine they cried.
Even when their tiny remaining family member died. Man someone else is going to move in to the parents' house and the house of the grandparents. The money should be given to charity and the friends of the grandparents and parents.
Why didn't the lawyer suggest petitioning the court to expedite the tests? The judge had ordered them as "emergency" treatment, which indicates that testing should be performed immediately. Too many social workers are all about ego and close their minds to other possibilities. The delay in testing was an obvious ploy to feed their egos because being right was more important than getting to the truth. However, I suspect they really weren't so sure. If they were so positive, they would gladly have the tests done asap. Social workers should be required to undergo intensive psychological analysis to reveal who they really are...before they are unleashed on the public. These two put the parents through hell for no good reason at all, destroying them and their families. Those social workers should have been thoroughly investigated and reprimanded for their despicable behavior.
AGREE 100%
A lot of things went wrong and an entire family had to pay for it. I would have thought as cops both parents would have gotten multiple attorneys' opinions.
No one should have jumped to the conclusion of child abuse.
@jackiegreiner8303 problem is cops are underpaid so even getting a consultation could break the bank for most. Where I lived a few years ago only paid cops about 30,000 a year and where I live now it's only about 45,000 a year
There should be a law where, if the symptoms expressed could be explained by a medical condition, test for that condition before long-term (more than seven days) alternative solutions are implemented, especially if a person could be removed from the care of a primary caretaker.
No. Governments and laws is the actual root cause of the problem. Unbelievable
So if a family turns up to a hospital with a child that, by the looks of it, has been severely abused, they should just send the kid to be with the parents again until every possible alternative explanation has been exhausted?
@@colim2595well there were no bruises on the baby. The doctor thought the parents, mainly the father, just purposely broke his own child's legs.
@@colim2595but I get why you ask that question. The parents loved their daughter though.
@@colim2595more under the lines of if there is a probable alternative explanation check them instead of waiting 3 months
I think this is most heart breaking,gut wrenching story you ever told Mr.Ballen.
Ok so basically instead of assuming they were guilty, had they just run the tests, all of this could’ve been avoided.. so why tf didn’t they just run the tests??
Child Srtvices is a law unto themselves. In fact they don't have a boss. The State Legislation is their boss!
One of the saddest things I've ever heard. I pray there is a heaven and they are together again.
Because Child Services is an entire industry of abusers themselves. They should be renamed 'We snatch happy kids from good parents and put them in the foster system'. The majority of the system is so f*cked up and they don't care whatsoever whose loves they ruin. And they never ever admit when they're wrong, and they're wrong a whole lot of the time. Social workers are garbage, but most foster parents are gold.
😢 😠.. I have seen first hand, a social worker having a total ego trip aka, being a total shithead, bc she was training a new young lady. I also saw the judge hand her, her azz back to her in open court, shutting her bad attitude down. 👍
Omg this was the SADDEST story ever….prayers for those poor grandparents….i hope they take comfort in knowing that baby Alyssa is finally safe w her parents where no one can pass judgement. ❤
I have never cried more listening to your podcast.
I cried so much. Such an upsetting outcome
I'm holding back tears
I made my wife listen she is currently shedding tears of rage and sadness. she ovary-acts a lot lol
This is such a sad, heartbreaking story. Lives lost when could have been prevented.
It sounds like the divorce was the last straw, so probably the dad would have done that any way if they ever faced some other hardships.
This is possibly the most tragic story I've ever heard. Heartbreaking.
Saddest story yet.. 😢
The doctor and social workers should be sued. Especially the social workers.
Jackie and Paul should've sued those people!! I know it wouldn't bring the parents back or change baby Alyssa's diagnosis... but man those people... smh
I agree.
But just because [suing the social workers/ CPS] wouldn't bring back the parents or change the poor baby's diagnosis.... it COULD possibly prevent such a tragedy from occurring again by having such genetic tests rushed.
By tragedy , i mean separating a teemibally ill child from their parents (who had done nothing to harm the child), and hopefully preventing the other parents from suffering such a tragic end (murder/ suicide) due to life shattering assumptions made by CPS....
They did.. they lost. They even said that the diagnosis proves nothing. That only "forceful yanking"😂 could've been the cause.. even though there were no bruises or external injuries, which ISNT consistent with abuse, especially if it's in various stages of healing. . they are such sore losers they can't admit they looked like complete CLOWNS till the end.
OMG! This has to be one of the worst or possibly worst stories I've heard Mr. Ballen tell. I've heard some terrible stuff, but this really hit me. I don't know these people, but I feel so bad for them and their families. This shouldn't have happened this way. Bad enough that baby had a death sentence, but the parents were done absolutely wrong. I've been falsely accused of child abuse and let me tell you, just like this story, these social workers/child protective don't give a damn about you or those they claim to be protecting. They don't listen, they are conniving, they don't do any due diligence no matter what evidence or thoughts you convey. It's a bunch of bull to put it lightly. This literally broke my heart. Just terrible. One thing I learned if you're ever accused of something like this. NEVER talk to anyone without a lawyer. Sad, but true. This story was the worst. I'm glad Mr. Ballen brings these stories to light, as tragic as they may be, so that these people can be remembered and thought of in this cruel world.
I don't think I've ever shed tears listening to these stories, guess that's a first...
I've watched the interrogation of Tiffany. It's been awhile but it made an impression on me that has stuck. Detectives were coming at her hard. And she wouldn't back down regardless of what tactics they tried to use. They couldn't get one drop of doubt planted in her. And she wasn't meek or uncontrollably emotional, she was angry, you could hear it in her voice but she was calm and controlled. She knew her husband would never abuse their baby in a million years. And i had never heard of the case before or the outcome but her demeanor and behavior convinced me he was innocent.
After watching so many videos about parents repeatedly abusing their kids and dying because CPS failed to do their jobs, this really irritates the hell out of me. But I do think that the doctor should have been the one to ask for more tests in addition to his mandatory reporting obligations. 11 broken bones in the same part of the body without indication of injuries or abuse anywhere else, should have raised doubts about the cause.
This is absolutely infuriating
😢This episode was sooooo heartbreaking 💔.
I was a medical social worker in Pediatrics for 12-1/2 years. I had many cases in which a child experienced an injury. First of all, the social worker is dependent on rhe mefical staff to tell her if the injury fit the story. Any pending diagnostic studies needed to be considered before leaping to a conclusion of child abuse. My approach was to ask if the parent could possibly have forgotten anything. Being accusitory right off the bat is the worst way to elicit cooperation from the parents. Most of the time a parent will confess to dropping the baby. An innocent parent will respond positively to unconditional positive regard.
I had to deal with cps in Lakewood Colorado, and this is exactly how the system out there works. This story really hit home.
This broke my heart so many times over.
I dont even had words.
This is the 2nd story done on kids & CPS, I don’t think my wife can handle heating another one.
This exact thing happened to me and my ex-wife. We had twin girls that were taken by the state for 2 years with no testing done only to find out they had brittle bone disease. And to get our kids back they made a sign papers stating that we couldn't sue them if we wanted our kids back.
This is just horrendous. That poor baby girl, the parents. Thanks to the legal system and the arrogance of the social workers involved, so many people suffered . And no apology! My God. So many people should have been taken aside and investigated here. Shame on them all.
This one hurt so bad. This may honestly be the most heartbreaking case yet.
Without a doubt the saddest you've told
no one's talking about how irresponsible it was for this lawyer to suggest tiff leave her husband without inquiring about whether it was safe for her to do so. her husband was already a powder keg, and he had a service weapon in the home. suggesting a person leave a very unstable, armed partner during such a tense time off the cuff is so incredibly dangerous.
Omg! That story makes me so angry and sad at the same time. Those so called social workers need to go to jail for what they did to this family.
This story is absolutely heartbreaking.
I have never been so upset by a Mr Ballen story before this is so tragic.
Oof. Good job Erin Lan and all! This story went from so hopeful to horrible, but delicately and soberly. Strange, dark, and right in the feels ❤😢
Respect sir. Thankyou for your stories they have been a great help.
Damn homie!! This was really sad…
Sometimes when ALL hope is gone .. just hang on for another day.. sometimes it could change everything.. If they only got that call sooner.. 🤦♂️ She most likely mentioned Divorce and that was what sent him over the edge.. so sad.
This is absolutely tragic. Unreal! God bless them. Hopefully they are all together with God In heaven. Where Alyssa can grow up pain free. Also those grandparents. Hope there doing well now. And found some form of solace
This story is absolutely heartbreaking 💔
What a sad and tragic story.. It Seems to me, child protective service Take away the baby from the wrong parents and get the baby back to the parents who are doing the abusing, And and up hurting they're baby even more.. God bless grandparents parents the little baby.
This is heartbreaking 💔
Oh my goodness this is probably the saddest story I’ve ever heard. God bless them. 😢
Wow that was incredibly sad 😢 and enlightening. The parents should have been looked at after all medical tests. No one should be made to feel that leaving their only child was the only answer. Yes, the parents are usually the first ones suspected of hurting their child. Investigating the parents would have been smart to do. The only good thing that all three are together in the end.😢
This would be better if we do learn the names of the Social Workers who causes this mishaps, they should be charges for their crime and be removed from any possible clients also.
So sad😢....a tragic story Mr Ballen.
I had to pause the video when the parents parents arrived. I knew on my heart what had happened but was bracing myself for it. This has got to be the most tragic one so far.....wow ..
Oh man........ This is so heartbreaking
Mr balllen has told so many stories but this is saddest I ever heard......
USA needs to be strict with these so called social worker
These woke people murdered a hopeful couple just by their arrogance.....
This is making me sick
woke people?? seriously??????? you weirdos will toss that word into A N Y T H I N G. there's no one on the left™️ who would have approved of EMERGENCY TESTING being postponed 3 months. i wish they would have just gotten that judge's office on the phone. 🥺
I think I need a hug and some chocolate 😥
Gives hugs and a huge box of your favorite chocolates 🥰
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🍫🤗 x 100
Oh how I wish the outcome could be different. It just isn't right. I am in shock and so sad. I kinda feel better that the Family is together again.
This story was to much this time. I’ve been listening since the beginning and this one just was too much.
RIP-this is the first Mr. Bowen story that has brought me to tears
Mr Ballen? More like Mr Bawlin. I've never cried from one of these videos before
This is gut wrenching! My goodness.
I wasn't prepared AT ALL for this!
Wonder how all grandparents are.
Most tragic and the saddest story yet.... 😓😞
That’s just sad… why are social workers so hell-bent on getting innocent people to lose their children but then you hear cases like Gabriel Fernandez and so many other child abuse cases were the children actually die at the hands of their own parents? I don’t understand it!
To say this is tragic would be an understatement.
That organ music is horrendous. It’s how I played at age six. I can’t be the only one to have wondered why one, awful organ interlude sounds like the right hand is in fear of the left.
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Settle down, Bach...lol
@@elsie6828 I really should! Have!
What I don’t understand is why the police were questioning the parents and why was there a court date set and why was all these things going into place? If the parents were guilty when they haven’t even run that test everything should’ve been postponed for three months until that test was conducted.
Whole family wiped out, so sad.
I listen all the time, this is the saddest story I ever heard you tell.
I've been around social workers for about 25 years. My parents have been foster parents for about this long. They can make or break a family. They take sides as well. Favoring mom or dad. Meanwhile foster parents see injustices and are rarely heard. Same goes for instances where social workers want to remove children from a home. Sometimes they are overzealous and jump to every conclusion. I understand they are acting on the behalf of the child. Their job is to move the child to a safe environment while a "just " investigation takes place. We were taught in foster care meetings and trainings that REUNIFICATION is the number one goal and priority for these children. Whithin reason of course😢
Well that was depressing as hell.
I cried listening to this tragic story. So many ‘WHYs’. I feel very sorry for this family😞🥺
Oh my gosh! It's absolutely heartbreaking.
I shouldn't have listened to this one at work 😢
I wasn't prepared for this heartbreak
Love me some Mr Ballen!! The medical mysteries are the best!!
Thank you for sharing
This one was too sad to “love”.
So tragic! Despicable how this was dealt with, automatically making atrocious accusations. Very scary. God bless them all 😢
😢😢 omg I was expecting the social workers got sued...this is heartbreaking
I hope that this is a new story!! #1 in placement!! 💫🏆
That is a heartbreaking story. So sad
Okay, this one makes you cry.
This is beyond devastating 💔💔💔
FML. I finished the story. 💔💔💔😫
Don't let any government entity take your kids from you, they are more likely to suffer physical and sexual abuse in the foster system or from the government agencies themselves
Thank you John for your amazing stories. This is so sad! 😢 It's really too bad they couldn't just do the tests instead of assume. And for the grandparents, losing a daughter and then a granddaughter that close together and so young. Sad all around... 😟
So so sad! This should have never happened to the family. Obviously assuming they were child m****** was wrong! Before assuming such horrible things double check medically before. So sad I send my sympathy for this family xx 😭
NO APOLOGY!!!
For them to apologize, they'd have to admit to making a mistake
How tf does a judge ordering emergency testing mean schedule it 3 months away? Heartbreaking story all around.
My niece’s father used to pick her up and twist her around to face him, more than one time her shoulders would come out of joint, simple play can and does harm your children, you have to be so careful, this story is so sad.
Tbf the fact he kept doing it after the first time it happened is definitely abuse...
Didn’t think I’d be crying this morning but yet here I am … so incredibly sad
That story is so heart breaking
This was so sad to listen too 💔
Literally heart breaking 💔
Terrible ending. I need to lisyen to Disney music now.
wow…that was so saddd 😭😭
The social workers kidnapped the child actually
I hope the parents and the baby are both resting in heaven
Same
This happens so often social workers are given too much authority over situations they have no knowledge over. It’s all based off of their opinion. It’s horrible!!!
OMG this is so tragic, the poor parents
Who says the SWs can't be the real abusers while the child is in transit? What about the foster parents who turn out to be abusers? This was totally avoidable. Even though the illness was terminal, they could have had other children without such debilitation. 👀
This one brought me to tears i hate those social workers i feel so bad for the parents the baby and the grandparents and this is just really sad
Heartbreaking.
This is the most heartbreaking one I’ve heard yet.
Horrible!!!!! Why did Dave kill her? Do you think Tiffany agreed to it?
Sounds more like she told him she would divorce him, and he fights his life was over anyway, so he would punish her for divorcing before taking himself out, too. If that's the case, he was never a fit parent even without having perpetrated abuse before. Severe depression is one thing, but to take it out on another is a choice.
@@decyattysyachpchyolstop speculating
@@decyattysyachpchyolnah, i doubt it. He thought life was over for the both of them when at her grandfathers house. He rushed out with the excuse he was going for a walk but already knew what he was gonna do. He just went straight home, shot her then himself
This story infuriated me (social workers) then broke my heart.