SBMM & EOMM Has Ruined Modern Warfare 3 Multiplayer | MW3 Multiplayer Gameplay Commentary
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- Skill Based Matchmaking and EOMM Has ruined Modern Warfare 3 for many players.
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Glad you speak about these issues it's shame that out of the million cod youtuber almost no one never mention dark side of the game.Everything what you just said I have experienced lots of time. For example
If you top of leader board most time your team gonna loose!
Killstreaks after reach uav instantly got shot.than few match later on without try to reach killstreaks The game revard me 2 cruise 2 Sae within one match!!
Also quite often feel my aim assist turn it self off.
Rating all I have never played any game what been manipulated so many way like this!
I have the same problems. And most of the time I feel like the game is going above and beyond by purposely taking my aim off the enemy even when I correct and compensate for the recoil. It feels insanely inconsistent and makes no sense. And all I get are hitmarkers and trust me, I am EARLY and DEAD ON TARGET. And I lose gunfights then someone else cleans up the kill and I get the “95% Assist” on my screen. This is absolutely absurd man.
Somehow I lose gunfights with my Pulemyot 762 when mounted across map against SMGS.
exactly the same shit i am facing in every match
@@AbhishekJainaj It’s because you’re above average, that’s the only explanation. The game knows it and it’s punishing you. Somehow I get dogged by the game every match by being thrown on a team full of shitters and somehow I’m supposed to be the great equalizer so we stand a chance and it NEVER works out that way. I get absolutely demolished by full stacks of sweat lords. It’s nuts.
Yeah if you do too good your aim repels itself off target like putting two magnets together. They dont even try to hide it.
thought it was just me, on pc sometimes feels like my aim is resisted to hitting on target
People really thought this game was going to be any different from the last 4 years of COD games?
cod will never change now mate
@@Simonb1471 It will when the sales numbers continue to drop.
Only idiots did. Which is most of the player base.
It is still better than the last year because of the better gameplay but the sbmm is tuned way up
You say that but most people that liked your comment probably bought the game, which is the problem
It’s so frustrating as I actually like the game! SBMM just absolutely ruins it for me! It’s so crazy how they actually just don’t listen to the community and remove the SBMM or even just turn it down abit!
They are shooting them self in the foot. More people will play the game if the sbm is gone. I like the base gameplay but the mega sweat matches are turning people off. Just today I was talking with my uncle about the sbm saying he is waiting till the sweats take a shower and leave. They need to get rid of it and let the randomness of the Og games in and out sbm in ranked to have even teams
They need to bring the game back to host server based games that way only people closest to you play you and delete sbmm and fuck cross platform off
It's not the sbmm. It's the eomm that's the problem
Nothing is new under the Sun with Activision anymore. They never fail to not disappoint us.
i literally empty a clip on an enemy and they don't die but they have enough time to turn around and shoot me twice and i die instantly. I shoot them chest and head but all i get is hit markers but they can two shot me. i just start laughing when i see my team has a overall 20 kills while the other team kills are up in the 50s .
and this is exactly why I don't buy newer cods. last thing I wanna do after work is sweat my ass off on cod. I prefer watching you do it simon 😂 glad your channel is getting in the algorithm
5:28 the bullet hits you through multiple concrete walls, truly a next gen cod.
3 years mate to develop this game. Maybe they need another year 😂
I was getting shot through the entire cave on AFGHAN in a mach.
@@Simonb1471 Not trying to make excuses but rumors are going around that sledgehammer thought they were actually going to be making the expansion to MW2 until activision threw it in their face "Yea, so you guys actually need to make this a fully fledged game." Rumor is that MW3 was actually made in about 16-18 months. which explains why it feels a lot like a DLC.
but everything in this video happens to me as well. I officially stopped playing cod because I just got tired of the BS in multiplayer. it's just not fun anymore. cod is doing SBMM/EOMM instead of a ping based match making system like the older titles had. They need to have a ping based matchmaking system.
@@stevenzwiesler8085 I hear it was done in just 12 months
I totally agree with you, i do believe that xdefiant will kill cod unless they make some changes.
Fingers crossed it does kill cod mp mate as it may force Activision to remove SBMM & EOMM matchmaking
Sig Spear is the new standard issue rifle The US military is getting. It looks pretty nice. Everyone on OG TH-cam definitely would've been harassing Santa about that one all holiday season.
It has to come out and stop getting delayed before it can compete lol.
💯STG XD WAS SO MUCH MORE FUN THAN COD😮💨
Xdefient, the finals, and mini royal and hopefully docs game will all be cod killers
Every game, I mean EVERY. DAMN. GAME! I play hardcore and dont do a lot of running and gunning because hardcore plays so much different than core tdm. It doesnt matter if I go negative or positive, my team is always losing. If I go positive, im always like 9 and 4. The most kills i got in a game was 16. This is definitely my last COD!
People, if you are reading this and you didnt buy this yet, dont let the "classic" maps fool you! Save your money and dont buy this!
So I finally tried this game during the free to play weekend. I played a match on shipment and decided to snipe. I started the match on a roll with 6-0 quick scoping and every kill was one shot kill since it's sniping. Then EOMM kicked in and I couldn't get any kills. I had to hit the players 2 to 3 times with the sniper for the rest of the match. This was insane. I could clearly see how the game started manipulating how I do for the rest of the match. I quit, uninstalled and won't touch this game again.
Knew this was going to happen. I believe they toned it down for beta to draw people in. I don’t feel sorry for the non TH-camrs who purchased this game.
People were having this exact same problem in the beta lol
Why would you feel sorry for the TH-camrs who did ?
@@rdowg It definitely felt strong in the beta but its absolutely worse with the launch.
@@neoconker2k8 because most of the TH-camrs like Simon livelihood depends on horrible games like this. It almost forces them to make content with it due to the fact that they won’t make money. Now other TH-camrs who hyped the game up and now complain. Nope I don’t feel sorry for them. Seen a lot of that already
Beta was sweaty this shit is far worst
One thing I don’t like is MW2 weapons being in the mix with MW3 weapons so many are using maxed level with all unlocked attachments. Should be a separate playlist with MW3 weapons only
I see you found a safe space on sub base lol
100% or make people level up the mw2 weapons for attachments but still allow them to keep the camos lol I feel like that’s common sense but these developers don’t have that
They have to keep their attachments because you can complete your MW2 Camo Grind in MW3.
MW2 weapons are trash on here anyway
I love the game I’ve been having fun i just don’t like the daily challenge system
mw2 weapon present 0 issue. it takes 5 games to max a weapon so even if its mw3 only weapons you will still play vs people with maxed weapons.
I can confirm that people who never bought or didn't buy much are more likely to be maniupulated by EOMM, my wz account is a free account never spent money and I'm always either nerfed or matched against cheaters or get terrible teammates or all at once, it's rigged top to bottom
I got slammed one game and the next im magically getting headshots. I know my own skill and I wouldnt normally get that much headshots when they put me in a "easier" lobby to "engage" me to play more.
Sbmm is insane in this game I gotta try hard every match but I’m enjoying it tho 😂
I made the mistake and bought MWII but they will not fool me next time. I dont want my games to be a sweat festival. BF2042 is times better than COD these times.
Thank god I quit playing cod 6 years ago lol, now I just watch people rage and complain.
Welcome to this channel then 😂
Yep, footsteps 👣 of your own team are plenty loud though. Amount of times I've turned around and it's my team. But when it's the enemy, nadda 😅
It forces you to use the ghost perk. I'm pretty sure gunshots and VTOLs are louder than footsteps.
I use the covert sneakers. No footstep sounds. Today I was in aatch where I could clearly hear an enemy coming, and they still got me. Every single time. With a gun that's reAlly garbage. I have the same custom blueprint gun and I know it won't out fire the mcw or the holger, but it did. Each and every single time
sbmm is clearly broken... im trash at the game too cosntantly going 0-20 and the game just keeps putting me against sweaty tryhard nerds... doesn't even make sense.
i was partied up with a few friends matches were horrible not in the sense of getting wrecked but how stressful it was trying to get some kills and a win. just until my friend bought a bundle the next 6 games felt like how cod was back in the day. i honestly think buying bundles gets you easier lobbies becuase it was night and day of what we were going up against. we all noticed the diff
Yep that sound like Activisions patent at work
@@Simonb1471 yup I almost forgot I left out the part where dropped my first nuke of the game in the last of the 6 matches before it got sweaty again. We all knew it was gonna get sweaty after that 😂 goes to show u how predictable the sbmm is
So I've been playing this since launch. I'm at rank 52 as of last night. Not sure what my overall K/D is in this game at the moment but generally I am towards the tops of the leaderboards (no, not a brag) in Hardcore. Also, it is worth mentioning that generally when we are queueing into a match, I see the ping count searching for matches somewhere within 30-50ms, which isn't too shabby. That said, some things that are abundantly apparent to me after playing a couple matches each night are the following:
1. Even in Hardcore I get hit markers on HEADSHOTS (the double-line hit indicator).
2. My audio for anything coming from a player seems off the longer I play each day.
3. IF I jump into Core (which I do not prefer), I seem to need to put more bullets into an enemy to kill them. I sometimes see the headshot hit indicator pop three or four times before I actually get a headshot kill.
4. In Core, if I happen to come up behind an enemy and start firing at them first, hitting torso/neck/head area, there is a strong chance that they'll be able to turn on me and get a few shots off on me, which usually ends with me nearly dead (roughly 25% health left) or losing the gunfight completely.
5. I haven't worked much on sniper rifles yet (I'm one of those camo grind idiots lol) but the handful of times I have done them I have had an abysmal experience. I've taken shots at players who were literally standing still across the map (like on Derail) and my bullets never register. I've had instances where another player on my team would get the kill (granted, they'd typically be somewhere else on the map but roughly the same distance away) OR the enemy player I was shooting at would locate me, then kill me with either a sniper or a marksmen rifle.
I'm tempted to play a couple hours once Season 1 starts to see if this algorithm kicks in, then buy a random new bundle from the Store to see if I am suddenly no longer having these attributes applied to me. I hate these SBMM/EOMM algorithms in the standard playlists. SBMM in Ranked actually makes sense. But the standard public playlists should just be a luck of the draw when you queue into a match; Sometimes you get bot lobbies, sometimes sweats, sometimes lobbies that match the general skill levels.
Great comment mate
Getting kicked for inactivity whilst sniping along with no new maps has me rather disappointed with new cod 😞
It’s insane this year. Shoot & hit first to be killed first is the philosophy
How they got plp to buy a 70$ game with maps from 2007 is incredible
Cos we are idiots
Sbmm and ebmm has no reason to be in pubs ranked yes but in pubs no. I dont mind competition but i dont want to sweat every time i play it
EOMM shouldn’t be a thing and SBMM should only be in ranked.
The game is a sweat fest shit show!!! I can honestly tell you after every match even when I’m doing well, it wasn’t even FUN.
Man all the alucard skin players are sweaty af
this is the most frustrating enraging experience I have ever had with a COD game. I'm a mediocre player at best, I'm usually at the bottom of the scoreboard every match, but for some reason I'm thrown into high skill jump shot, slide canceling pro level matches every time I play. I want to like the game but Activisions insistence on this absurd matchmaking system just ruins it for me.
Dude same, this game is an enraging experience
So glad I didn't get tricked into the hype. Will wait for xdefiant. Not because it's the best game ever. But because they openly state they won't use sbmm
Definitely want to see more of your honest analysis
To everyone who bought the game....remember you knew how the beta was and u still shelled out $70 for this game.....i dont feel sorry for yall, i didnt like the beta so i didnt spend my money, im not buying another cod until they fix the matchmaking
i've been having crazy headache all day and this video cheered me up for a little, keep up the good work!
"All the bunny hopping and booty sliding!" Some Thunder402 guy..
It’s hard to target them when they do that. Their movement looks so erratic on your screen but when you hop or slide on your screen it’s smooth. In what alternate universe would hoping and sliding improve someone’s aim? This game is so ridiculous.
It's like iam playing in a cod championship match every game
Good luck mate
Yea it's destroyed the game .
I hit 20 kills 10 deaths for example.
Next game I kill 10 deaths 20 .
1.0 kd in 5 hours game play .
Every lobbie is against sweaty players .
Never easy gun fights .
1.00 kd here too lol, used to be able to get at least a 1.5 struggling on this
@@anthonythomas1165 yea everyone is .
One minute my gun shreds the next I am better of using a pellet gun.
Within a few seconds of the game starting I can tell that this game doesn’t feel like how it use to. Seems way too fast for these maps
This is MW2023: Death Wish Coffee, Meth, Monster, and Coke addition. This is what happens in this game dude. Forget Adderall. Even the Cartel in Favela doesn't have what you need to have a positive K/D in this game.
The spawns are garbage. I literally spawn bensons people and shoot them and the same happens to me
My first two matches I was doing amazing, top of the leaderboards, most kills etc. 3rd march felt like an mlg tournament. And then I never got a good game again.
Same for most people
Did good once and every single match has been nothing but miserable and my health has been decreased to 50 while my enemies are at 150
Going back to all your older video's on multiple accounts to both enjoy them and drop a like.
My son and I love your rages and just hearing you speak.
Appreciate it mate
I am enjoying the game but I have one good game and the next game my first death comes from a jump shot around a corner . Or I feel like my aim is off or I hit every shot and can’t seem to drop the enemy , but I play the same style each time .
Always watching your vids and genuinely happy for you when you get the views .
Thanks buddy! Hope you and the family are well
That info on the bottom right that shows your gun type, remaining bullets etc...sometimes I see it, sometimes I don't....how do I get it on screen all the time? PC
Two of my friends have decent ratios. Like 1.2 /1.3 and when i play with them it’s like we are playing in some cod pro league lobbies not even enjoyable. It’s completely ridiculous. Ive always had around 1.2/1.3 ratio on most cods but this one I’m barely positive. The SBMM Lobbies are an absolute disgrace ruins it for casual players like me who just wanna pick up the game up for a few hours and play.
I know it sucks james even though I’m average my mates are shit and when they play with me they rage cos they can’t even get a UAV cos SBMM puts them in easier lobbies when I’m not playing with them
i love meself some good ole siB cod live rage
Have you noticed in the game your be shooting and your aims going all over the shop & you can't control it.
Then another game it will be perfect vice versa.
Game definitely dose play you
It does pal
@mickymoo79 I’ve noticed that too! I thought I was crazy! But it seems like your controller is possessed or has a kind of its own. Usually happens after you do well for a bit. It’s nuts! Moves and aims around for you and makes it hard to control
@@huf_fitness26 yep your absolutely right.
Im done with the game now.
I've uninstalled it.
Call of duty is finished
I appreciate you raising your blood pressure for our enjoyment. I refuse to buy this game. It plays really well but the SBMM and EBMM destroy any joy you could have. During the beta I started a round 20-3. I finished that round 23-29. I watched as my aim was repeatedly pulled away from targets and my opponent had magical bullets that would melt me instantly. I can’t justify paying $70 to get my $#!+ pushed in.
only one correction as i start. senior player = marquee player.
Thanks that’s the phrase
I've said since the announcement I wouldn't buy but as a seasoned player I couldn't help myself and crumbled but thankfully I'm enjoying the game fprnthe few hours a week I have chance to hop on
I think you were thinking about the dazzle capture card at the beginning, 😅
I didn’t have a dazzle but I remember them too. I have a Roxio game capture 😆
The normal skins are grey/brown. So basically not that noticeable like the Christmas tree skins glowing in red and blue.
They should be a disadvantage. So no one should use them in ranked because of every single disadvantage counts.
So they are using it in public.
And they are still winning. Because somehow they are always better at aiming. Every single time.
Even if Activision would create a casual quick game, those people would also join to have that 60:0 "experience".
So that's bad for normies.
But those skin players are fleeing too, from ranked, because there a pros that spend all their TH-cam money on skins too. And so those 100€ per month skin players have to fight against 100€ per day skin players and are loosing hard too.
Even if their was a normie and a easy quickplay right next to ranked, the system will force players down the line to have easier wins.
Well... that looked fun !!! Lol
Guess u can only hear footsteps if u buy the audio skin ! 😅
Ha ha true
I consider myself slightly better than an average player with a 1.5KD. The sbmm in Mw3 is cranked up way too high. Every lobby I get in, I can’t take more than 5 steps without aim botted or bunny hopped long shot. Also, I am starting to feel mnk is a huge disadvantage in this game due to kinda long ttk. When these sweaty nerds are moving around so fast, it’s much harder to track them on mouse. Whereas on controller it was much easier to track and shoot with OP aim assist. One thing I noticed, you always get harder lobbies while playing mnk as input. The second I switch to controller, the lobbies are much easier. Did you notice that ? But I am getting absolutely destroyed here. People can say skill issue/get better. I don’t want to and Don’t have time to grind a video game like these basement dwellers with no life. There is absolutely 0 real life accomplishment gained by being good at this game and sweating to death for free. Some of us have real life jobs and responsibilities and we game just for fun. I think casual COD is dead now. Every one wants to be optic Scump lol
So true pal glad you agree
Mnk not disadvantage, it’s just these bastards either fucked it up or artificially messing with it through sbmm. It’s like trigger delay, ghosting and just your bullets fucking avoid your enemy when you supposed to kill them 25 bullets back.
I felt so robbed after playing this for 30 minutes. I wont be starting it up ever again. Money lost.
Lmao y’all act so dramatic over a game
Sorry let me just be quiet while I get fucked in the ass.
Why you sticking up for billionaires?
Played for a few hours, managed to get money back. Sorry but NO. Get rid of those idiotic mechanics and we'll think about it. Don't get me wrong, the game is not bad but SBMM and some idiotic map solutions make it a nightmare.
The last game for me was Cold War and when i see you playing iam so happy that iam not playing Cod anymore.
I played while I was drunk last night and got annihilated so bad lol. 1.04 kd is now .97. You have to sell your soul and play like Jesus Christ reincarnated to even have a chance at winning or doing well
Hopefully Mirosoft take a different approach in time for Treyarchs game next year. I've skipped this one.
That's the reason I asked for a refund yesterday. One moment you're bullets are registering just fine and another it's almost like the 3-4 first bullets didn't count. Same for your accuracy one moment it's on point another it's jerking everywhere. The spawns are terrible. As for the weapon they're all unbalanced. It's a shame
That’s why they didn’t have the game on steam for years as you get refunds much easier but cos it’s not as popular now they need every option available
My experience with this started back in Advanced Warfare. I spent 25$ a week every couple weeks And I would get defeat lobbies. I was only a 1.5kd back then. But I got all the guns for sure and it helped my average experience in a blindingly way looking back at it. First COD was WAW.
anyone decent at this game knows some sht is happening to them that they cant explain.
Sbmm eomm have destroyed the game big time
I'm proud to say that i have not spent a single penny on skins on any COD game.
Protecting them noobies they make more money from noobies
Every game is so daggone hard I'm not having fun at this point I buy Call of duty's play 10 to 20 games and never play it again.
Another great video by my 2nd favourite TH-camr
The game is rigged from the start , you can go from 3.0kd en en on 0.20kd . Even not a sweaty lobby , it’s like the game decide you will not win or hit anything ! I have uninstall this crap game,a mistake that cost me 100 euros. No sound no visibility,get this shit out of my computer 😡
As much as I'd like to get back into cod I can't activision is just too scummy last cod I played was CW.. stopped after bo3 came back for mw19 and CW and was horribly disappointed.
7:51 oh look a sweatlord safe space, i laughed out loud 🤣
Well chaps this time round I’ve had enough im doin the reverse boast to enjoy this game sick to death of SBMM it’s ruin this franchise!
Im an actual demon at cod. Im iridescent in regular ranked and warzone ranked.
I have not bought a skin since season 1 of mw2 and this game is slamming me. I go double positive or more almost every single game but i lose 70 percent of games no matter how hard i play obj.
I actually felt your rage in that video 😂
It’s real mate
Didn’t buy if for this reason someone knew this was gonna be a problem so why waste your money they were never gonna change it
1st game played had wallhackers. Struggling to get eben level 4. Sooo many cheats on start. Ricochet is less than useless.
I am so with you at 6:30 one of my biggest issues with this game at the moment.
The footsteps definitely need adjustment
........do we not have like 3 forms of dead silence?
@@rdowg not at level 26 🤡
The multiplayer is the actually quite good, but while SBMM and EOMM is active... it doesn't feel natural.
my first game was me level 0 vs level 30 to 50 all with meta weapons. I had to use the "default" ones. This is just crazy. I won't be buying this sht
Your cod account over the years takes all pst games into consideration mate so it will match you instantly with players of similar skill even when you have no levelled up weapons
Sneaky trainers default loadout
O P
Hitmarkers hitmarkers
And just wait til u hit lvl 25 , then you “unlock “ the unlock system that we have to complete 3 to 5 daily challenges just to unlock guns, percks, lethals ect….. I’m a lvl 40 and still don’t have symtex 😂😂😂😂
Yep dog shit mate
Faze swagg has it sorted..... Just dropped a nuke in hardcore mode.....🙂🙃😉😂
Those VPN lobbies mate
@@Simonb1471 Embarrassing it was.... No one fired back hardly 🤣🤣
Seems like some good commentary. Not rlly all that fluid but very honest, wich is the most needed at the moment. ❤ gotta sub to this.
Cos I don’t edit or have any script like 99% of TH-camrs have mate.
@@Simonb1471 awesome
At this point, is there even SBMM? I think there’s nothing else going on here but EOMM. I think the devs keep using the term SBMM as a smokescreen and to confuse. And, even in the comments almost no one understands the difference. EOMM is not SBMM “turned up”… it’s a whole different match making system.
I'm playing Hardcore trying to complete my MW2 Platinum Grind by getting Longshots and I'm just getting wrecked every match just for a fee Longshots.🤣🤣
So I paid $70 for a game I have to spend more money on just to have fun in the game 😐
Correct
I would make it more specific:
You have to spend more money than everyone else playing the mode/lobby.
I bought it for zombies which is enjoyable. Yesterday i tried a MP game with a friend who is much better than me. After 1/2 a game i rage quit because every one was booty sliding and bunny hopping never missing a shot, what a horrible experience one big sweat fest. HORRIBLE!!! Glad zombies is kind of chill to plat but i reckon trashtivision finds a way to ruin the fun!
This is just mw2 with bootie sliding cancel and extra bunny hopping. And these maps played like they always did. Just sweater! I don't understand why people thought think the sweats would not sweat.
I think people with skins take longer to kill
Sledgehammer just sucks at making call of duty idk why people even have hope whenever they are in charge
This game is weird, old school cods i feel im good i have good matches and worse but i feel the same when play my aim is the same just opponents are bad or better mw19 mw2 and more mw3, i feel 3 matches my aim so good i have great timing reaction etc than coming next match i cant aim i can first start shooting and lose like there be some program to make me worst aiming starting be weird i cant control recoil and thid is why game frustrate cause feel something just vroke.
It’s the EOMM mate
5 good games followed by 5 sweat fest lobbies, rinse and repeat.
Also everyone is using covert sneakers which seem to competely eliminate any footstep noise.
If the SBMM and the EOMM weren't so strong and matter of the fact that it's pretty much a P2W simulator I'd buy it. I'm waiting on treyarch next game coming up, with Microsoft at the helm.
Footsteps sound lika a horse running
I will watch you play I won't buy a game that nurfs my guns and health why I'm playing the game not getting my money
They only way to reach the developers and make them change sbmm and eomm is by closing the wallet.
Why be satisfied by a good game when it can be great or even amazing by changing parts of the game.
I know it can be hard to resist buying a game that has some parts of it that are good.
I have boycotted many games because of parts of games has been altered in a wrong way.
I know there are to few people who boycott for change but i still do it because i dont like games that has "some fun in it when you know it could be so much more.
The positive fans are the people who dont aknowledge real issues and defends a game no matter what. That is not a real fan. That is someone who only make things worse.
Honestly don’t get what keeps people buying this game every year baffles me
Bas b, mcw, sa545. All badass guns
Thanks mate
Delicious rage! Well done, Simon.
Only real issue I’ve been having is the stupidly high latency and packet loss. No issues with any other game, but on mw2 and mw3 the high latency gets me killed a lot even when I have the advantage and first shot. Is that eomm?
Yes that's eomm if your in a gunfight against a lower kd player it will packet burst you I've experienced it many of times and the moment I die or the player is killed by me while packet bursting it a teammate killing said enemy it immediately stops.
What's up Si, try some Hardcore mode. I found it's a bit less sweaty and more casual. Also, I'm on PS5 and I've found turning off Crossplay to be a bit more bearable!
I feel your pain.....too well.
Thanks mate