After World War Two Japan had a shortage in food from their culture but they hadn’t figured out a way to eat noodles the way they wanted so a guy fried them and made ramen in a cup that’s why it’s popular today
Frying/dehydrating a half cooked Chinese noodles isn't specifically a "Ramen" it is an instant noodles that the Japanese man created on what we now know of as NISSIN CUP NOODLES. Ramen is a Type of noodle soup that is popular in Japan, it has Chinese noodles, fatty pork, mushroom, boiled egg and broth.
@KhmerRestoration any noodle dish? Then how do they differentiate a noodle dish from another noodle dish? Ramen 1, Ramen 2, Ramen 3? Or Spicy Ramen, Sea food Ramen, Vegetable Ramen? I've eaten many types of noodle dishes from different restaurants and I can name a few ones like Pho, minestrone, Khao soi, Mami, etc.
Japan didn’t lie anything about ramen. The word ramen itself is written in katakana which is meant for borrowed word from other country. No Japaneses or anyone has claimed ramen was originated from Japan.
It wasn’t stolen, and there is a difference between the Japanese and Chinese versions. Ramen came from China but was adapted in Japan into a unique dish with rich broths like miso or tonkotsu, diverse toppings, and kansui noodles. It’s not theft but cultural exchange, with both countries creating their own iconic and equally delicious versions in their own way.
He is not lying Ramen didn't came from Japan, Japan just popularized it because after world war 2 Japan had a shortage of food and ramen came in clutch
Most Japanese actually know ramen is from China. That's why it's considered Chuuka not washoku. FYI, Japanese cuisine is being divided mainly into 3 types, Washoku (natively developed Japanese cuisine), Chuuka (things originated from China and developed in Japan), and Youshoku (western food that developed in Japan).
Japan didnt steal anything. China had their own version which the Japanese adapted into their own when it reached them. Thats like saying the US Stole Hamburgers from Germany since Germany invented the pattie.
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t stolen,it was inspired from our 牛肉拉面 which is beef noodle soup,they replaced the broth with an entirely different one,added tare,replaced the meat with pork,added more veggies and a slice of seaweed,that’s ramen
@@vennsim71 I’m not saying the names are different,I’m saying the way they’re prepared are much different,for Chinese we usually just grill it over an open fire while Japanese marinate it
@@user-qm7jw I'm Chinese,and I know ramen is a different thing between China and Japan, I think this video is treating Chinese and Japanese people as fools
@奧理斯-u9y yes Mongolians are generally headers and hunters. Besides meat and milk they consume minimal of anything else . What would have encouraged them to consume lest invent anything from grains which the careless.
Ramen originated in China, but the ramen we know today in Japan is a food culture that was perfected through repeated efforts by Japan. Chinese ramen and Japanese ramen are different.
When I was growing up we called it chukamen which means Chinese noodles. We know it started out as a Chinese dish popular in Yokohama-Tokyo where my mom grew up.
A lot of things were copied from China, even their language, like I don’t understand Japanese but I can still understand some of it because I know Chinese
Well to be fare back then China as the standard in Asia every region in Asia look up to China and sometime even pay tribute in exchange for grande and they adapted chinese tradition to their culture this included Vietnam Japan Korea and Malaysia.
Although it's unclear exactly when ramen first appeared in Japan, historians believe 19th-century Chinese immigrants brought an early version of it with them to Japan. Originally nicknamed “Chuka soba,” early ramen was a simple dish consisting of noodles in broth topped with roast pork
Ramen is the Japanese way of pronouncing of "la mian" which is how its called in Chinese but they put the R for katagana and "la mian" means hand pulled noodles in china which are a type cuz from Lanzhou as in Lanzhou there's different other ones like 刀削面 (idk the English for this)which uses the same dough as la mian but is pulled differently resulting in a different type of noodle
It came from "Lanzhou mian" but locals shortened it to "Lamian". Since Japanese aren't that fluent in spelling 'l', it were changed to "Ramen" in full katakana. So, they never really stole the ramen, but improvised it so it can be made as a fast food or restaurant grade cuisine.
While it's true that the most famous lamian is from lanzhou, I think the word lamian itself means pulled noodle. It's because they use the word 拉 means (hand)pulled. Also, they usually call it Lanzhou Lamian.
Oouchi Sadakichi 大内貞吉 opened Rairaiken 来々軒 in Asakusa, Tokyo, in 1910, the first ever Ramen shop in Japan in recorded history. He employed Chinese cooks that brought Chinese La-Mian 拉麵 to Japan, which is also the same pronunciation in Japanese Ramen (pronounced more closed to lah-men). However, ramen didn't blow up in popularity only after World War 2 due to food shortage. You can still visit Asakusa Rairaiken even today, a taste of the first Japanese ramen and a piece of real history.
@K9boi no when I say nobody cares I mean like nobody cares about the issues between China and Japan that's what was saying. But the joke is funny as hell 🤣🤣😂
The alternative name for fresh ramen in Japan is literally “Chinese noddles” 💀 That’s why it’s often served in bowls with swirly Chinese motifs on them. Japanese people know ramen’s roots are Chinese. Instant ramen WAS invented in Japan though.
Actually, ramen was popularized after the great Kantou eartquake, because so many restaurants where destroyed by it, and people made street stalls called "Yatai"-s and used that as a mobile restaurant. And in order to reduce the number of items on their menus, most of the yatais proceeded to sell only ramen. The very roots of ramen were from China yes, but don't call it a chinese dish, its a japanese dish with chinese roots. Hamburger most of the time is called an american food because it's benn popularized there, but it's from Germany from a city called Hamburg.
@@zennoix9984 you must be dumb because you don't realize the Mongolian empire and its capital city is literally part of china. The king is still buried somewhere in that part of the country. The only reason the tomb is unfound is due to the suicide of the protection squad after killing all the burial troops.
I already know I read that in my history class That's the whole reason why it's popular cause it was the best food in that time for soldiers for everybody so yes it's not surprising
The geographic origin of wheat is believed to be western Iran, eastern Iraq, southern Turkey and adjacent areas to the east.Therefore, ramen originated here.
Momofuku Ando invented the world's first instant ramen, Chicken Ramen, in 1958. Ando, the founder of Nissin Foods, was inspired to create a faster, more convenient way to prepare ramen after seeing long lines of people waiting for it at a market in Osaka Ōsaka, city and capital of Ōsaka fu (urban prefecture), south-central Honshu, Japan.
Also tempuras recepy comes from portugal " peixinhos da orta" And none of usa typical foods come from the usa. Exept fortune cookies, and if im not mistaken sushi rolls were also american with tradicional japanese sushi looking more like sashimi
Totally wrong, japan had their own version, which was way better than the chinese version. In fact japan was the originator of Instant Noodles, China copied them
Pasta is from China, recorded by Marco Polo himself, is it still considered Chinese propaganda when western people used to be honest compared to western people today who are die hard liars?
Which is why ramen is written in katakana, a writing used to name things outside Japan. Chinese call it lamyan, and Koreans call it Ramyeon (or Lamyeon)
Everyone in Japan knows it’s from China and so do most people who studied anything about ramen. The reason they know this is that ramen is always written in katakana which is used for borrowed words from other languages. Like the United States of America is called amerika in Japanese and is written in katakana.
no one in Japan say that ramen didn't come from china. In many places, ramen is called "chukasoba"(Chinese noodles). The names of many components in ramen also comes from Chinese: chiyu comes from jiyou, mayu comes from mayou, paitan comes from baitan, even the word ramen comes from lamian. No one denies that ramen comes from china, but they became so different over the time that now they are considered different dishes
It was not stolen. It was introduced by the Chinese at the beginning of the 20th century. It slowly gained popularity and changed to accommodate Japanese tastes. You can go visit the Ramen Museum in Shin-Yokohama. I went there in March 2023 and took photos of the displays explaining the history of ramen.
It's just the cultural fusion I'm Vietnamese and Bánh mì is a clear example of cultural fusion between Vietnam and France. Although the basic ingredients such as jambon, pâté, or butter originated from France, when introduced to Vietnam, this dish was creatively adapted to suit local tastes and culture. Ingredients like fresh herbs, pickled vegetables, soy sauce, and various fillings such as Vietnamese ham, grilled pork, or meatballs have made bánh mì distinctly Vietnamese. This creativity has elevated bánh mì beyond its original roots to become a culinary symbol deeply tied to Vietnamese culture. A dish, no matter where it originated, becomes representative of the culture of the country where it thrives and evolves. Similarly, ramen is another prime example. Although noodles may have originated in China, when they arrived in Japan, the Japanese reinvented and refined them to create ramen - a dish with flavors and styles unique to Japan. From rich broths like shoyu, miso, and tonkotsu to distinctive toppings such as soft-boiled eggs, chashu pork, seaweed, and bamboo shoots, ramen has become an iconic culinary symbol of Japan. It is not merely a variation of Chinese noodles but a testament to the creativity and culinary sophistication of the Japanese people. Thus, like bánh mì in Vietnam, ramen is not a borrowed dish but a unique symbol of Japanese cuisine, solidifying its value on the global culinary map.
As a Japanese person, I never really thought ramen to be Japanese food, since most time we went to Chinese style restaurant to eat ramen. So we didn’t lie about it. I was surprised to see so many people in the UK thinking ramen originated in Japan.
If you knew japanese then you would obviously know ramen wasn't originated from japan because it's written in Katakana. Anything written in Katakana is derived from another country.
Claiming Japan lied about this is an exaggeration. They always acknowledge that it originates from China, including gyoza and other Chinese cuisine. So let's stop this nonsense.
Japanese brought Ramen, Gyoza etc during WW2 or after. They were nice even during war-time in China. Japanese couldn't find job when the war was over and came back to Japan. So they opened a noodle booth or restaurant. It's not stealing or anything like that. Now as other things are motivated and alter for better, Japanese are on the next stage to make the soup nicer
Ramen originated in China, but it became popularized and transformed into the iconic dish we know today in Japan. The Chinese introduced wheat-based noodles to Japan in the late 19th or early 20th century, and the Japanese adapted these noodles into their own cuisine, incorporating local flavors and techniques. Over time, ramen evolved into a staple of Japanese cuisine with various regional styles and broths like shoyu (soy sauce), miso, and tonkotsu (pork bone).
As a Chinese I have to say stolen is not an appropriate word. Japanese are very good at learning from other nation and their ramen has their own unique flavour and cooking technique.
It feels like in every video he tries to teach us something but in reality when we open the comments section people know way more realistic things than him. I think I like this little life.
No, I'm sorry. It wasn't China. It was Manchuria:, who Occupied China for over Three Hundred Years including Vietnam. Secondly, the Country of Korea is located just South of Manchuria. Therefore, The Soldiers of the Imperial Japanese Army brought back the Recipe to Japan in the 1930's..Also, they brought back Lime Stone Spring Water from Manchuria known as "Kansui":, which contains Calcium Hydroxide:,. also known as "pickling lime". This originally made the Ramen Yellow, since flour is normally white. This hydrated lime water is also used in Meso America, to turn white Corn yellow for use in Tamales, Tacos and hence, Tortillas, a mix called Nix Tamal ! Never the less:, Historians miss this Hermitage of Culinary technology due to being a secret That belonged to the Genghis Khan Clan who were primarily Islamic Warriors as opposed to Neo Confucian Culture.. A little known fact due to being Shrouded in Secrecy as in The Veil or Shroud that covered Jesus Christ !
wheat was introduced to China from the Silk Roads from Egypt and other areas of the Fertile Crescent around 2000 BCE. Bonus fun fact, The earliest known wheat noodles in China date back approximately 4,000 years ago, discovered in a well-preserved bowl at the Lajia archaeological site near the Yellow River. These noodles were hand-pulled and made from a mix of millet and wheat flour.
Spreading false accusation just for content. Japanese itself never claim ramen as their original. Hope the video creator satisfied for the dirty money from video.
In japan ramen is called "ラーメン" which uses katakana, katakana mainly used for foreign words or object that wasn't made in japan, so they acknowledge that ramen isn't from japan
exchange and false info? oh man some people in the comments tryna make the internet feel comfort? lmao im chinese btw and i think it was forcefully stolen. look into some history and almost 60% of japan's culture is from china and culture as in literature, culinary, and techs like sword making, paper making, and others. and the only thing knowledge that was exchanged not only china but other places was anime, which was first from the frech, but japan made it shine better. ok im done yapping have a good day
After World War Two Japan had a shortage in food from their culture but they hadn’t figured out a way to eat noodles the way they wanted so a guy fried them and made ramen in a cup that’s why it’s popular today
Frying/dehydrating a half cooked Chinese noodles isn't specifically a "Ramen" it is an instant noodles that the Japanese man created on what we now know of as NISSIN CUP NOODLES. Ramen is a Type of noodle soup that is popular in Japan, it has Chinese noodles, fatty pork, mushroom, boiled egg and broth.
@@julienmagno5796 Whenever I worked at a Korean restaurant, all people would come in and call any noodle dish ramen
@KhmerRestoration any noodle dish? Then how do they differentiate a noodle dish from another noodle dish? Ramen 1, Ramen 2, Ramen 3? Or Spicy Ramen, Sea food Ramen, Vegetable Ramen?
I've eaten many types of noodle dishes from different restaurants and I can name a few ones like Pho, minestrone, Khao soi, Mami, etc.
Yeah that’s what really happened
Fr
Japan didn't lie about it, they actually acknowledge the origin of Ramen.
Kind of like how a Englishman loves a curry
Thanks for save us jk
@@reubenzwicker1272the thing is Japanese also love currys and Japanized it too😂
Nope that’s cap
@@SabrinaLiu9is not cap
As a Chinese dude erm yk soup noodles don't mean we invented everything with noodles and soup in it
He is talking about the Ramen. Not the broth
I guess Japan just made it better
Ramen evolved from a noodle dish in China.
Technically Chinese invented pasta like in general.
Chinese immigrants invented Ramen, which itself is based on Lamian (pronounced Lamyen)
Japan didn’t lie anything about ramen. The word ramen itself is written in katakana which is meant for borrowed word from other country. No Japaneses or anyone has claimed ramen was originated from Japan.
Maybe he confused it with instant noodles.
Someone did there research
yeah and they even know that sushi isnt even FROM FROM Japan, they Japanize it
Yes they do
@@sola9626their*
Japan NEVER once claimed they invented it 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️😮💨💀💀💀
Right
Japan never said that Ramen is from them, we just all thougt that.
Yes Japan literally classifies Ramen as Chinese food. This channel is so dishonest and click bait.
Right 🗿
Fr
Not we. You thought that
@@ttschannel875maybe you are just now one of us
It wasn’t stolen, and there is a difference between the Japanese and Chinese versions. Ramen came from China but was adapted in Japan into a unique dish with rich broths like miso or tonkotsu, diverse toppings, and kansui noodles.
It’s not theft but cultural exchange, with both countries creating their own iconic and equally delicious versions in their own way.
@@ChristinaBonvillian-ni2jiwith your same logic, all food from USA was stolen
Well stated.
At least someone is right
not like the vid this is more accurate
Nah
Bros really has beef with japan
Japanese are Chinese, all Asians are Chinese
But he is talking facts tho
Frfr@@YTGoifyy
It's true
@@ChristinaBonvillian-ni2ji you replying to me or you?
"JAPAN IS LYING ABOUT RAMEN!!!😮😮😮😱"
"THIS GUY IS LYING ABOUT JAPAN!!😱😱"
least biased comment
@@jazrice_213 🤨🤨🤨😯😯😯😯😱😱😱
@ he never lied about japan
He is not lying Ramen didn't came from Japan, Japan just popularized it because after world war 2 Japan had a shortage of food and ramen came in clutch
Nuh uh uh
I think not stolen perhaps inherited. Most japanese actually descended from jomon people and yayoi people from mainland tht migrated across the sea.
Japan has always recognized ramen as Chinese food. When I was in Japan, when they say let's eat Chinese food, we go to a place serving Ramen.
@@einsamherz2762this video is literally in English, made for ppl who don’t know the origin of ramen.
Bro that ramen spill was personal.. 💀🗿
Edit: thank YOU for the likes 😭😭😭😭
Fr
China propaganda, their hate is real.
I was checking coments to see if someone said it
Ok
How is it personal???????
Most Japanese actually know ramen is from China. That's why it's considered Chuuka not washoku. FYI, Japanese cuisine is being divided mainly into 3 types, Washoku (natively developed Japanese cuisine), Chuuka (things originated from China and developed in Japan), and Youshoku (western food that developed in Japan).
Someone did there research. Respect you
Washoku ( not western- countries except japan and china)
I applaude you for researching, mate. Unlike this idiot channel owner who has alot of beef with Japan.
Chuuka Soba
@@tokyofaqs Washoku is just Japanese-origin cuisine. No other country is involved there.
Japan didnt steal anything. China had their own version which the Japanese adapted into their own when it reached them. Thats like saying the US Stole Hamburgers from Germany since Germany invented the pattie.
Actually they did and also Japan was originally china
@@galaxylin666 "Japan was originally China" Since when did China occupy Japan?
@galaxylin666 What are you talking about? Japan wasn't part of china. Learn history, buddy
@@galaxylin666 Since when was Japan part of China bruh 😭🙏
𝒲𝒶𝒾𝓉 ,𝓌𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒰 𝓂𝑒𝒶𝓃 ? 😮😅
It,s Called Magic Ramen
Japan never lied about it. The fact that they write it in Katakana obviously means that it's a borrowed/foreign term
That ramen spill had me rolling😂😂😂
Same lol Ichiran ramen fail
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t stolen,it was inspired from our 牛肉拉面 which is beef noodle soup,they replaced the broth with an entirely different one,added tare,replaced the meat with pork,added more veggies and a slice of seaweed,that’s ramen
They replace with 叉烧which is roast pork slice, from China…
@ you can’t say that definitively due to pork being accessed by many countries,also the ones China makes is much different from the Japanese ones
叉烧is literally the same as the Chinese name … 😂 I don’t see Spanish call that for Spanish version
@@vennsim71 I’m not saying the names are different,I’m saying the way they’re prepared are much different,for Chinese we usually just grill it over an open fire while Japanese marinate it
@@TheNarrator5 huh, Chinese marinate the pork as well. Only the condiments differ.
In China it’s called lā miàn(拉面）
Ramen (ラーメン) is a loan word from Lamian/Lamien, but has Kanji characters that are similar to Chinese characters
Hanzi/Kanji
🇯🇵 拉麺
🇨🇳 拉面 or 拉麵
There is a reason why Ramen is written in Katakana and not in Kanji equivalent of Chinese Lamien. Ramen is considered foreign food in Japan.
That one guy that spilled the bowl 😂😰
From what I can remember, in Japan, ramen is categorized as Chinese food
Lmao what???? I learn new thing everyday
Kinda true lol
Real Japanese agrees @@TotalIy_Zen
chuuka: yakisoba, ramen, chinjao rosu, champon, saraudon, gyoza, karaage, hiyashi chuuka, mabodofu, tenshinhan, etc.
Wow
奪われたとかそういう訳ないだろう。ラーメンの元のレシピは確かに中国から来たんだけど、現代のラーメンは中華麺と全く違う。もっとも正しい言い方は奪われたではなく、ラーメンは中華麺に影響されたということだ。奪われたと言ったらまるで日本は中国を悪用しているというか、なんだか日本の悪口っぽい、やだよねそんな言い方で、違和感浮かぶよね普通に
編集:
日本でラーメンは確かに「中華料理」と分類されています。ただし、中華料理は「chinese cuisine」ではありません。定義的に違うため、コメント欄の皆様が混乱してしまったそうです。「中華料理」は「和食」ではありませんが、どっちも「japanese cuisine」であるのです。私も定義に混乱してしまったのですが、今理解できるようになりましたので編集をしました。迷惑や混乱をさせてしまって申し訳ありませんでした。
Good explanation!
日本人だけど最近日本の事批判しようとする動画ばかりで嫌になってくる
日本って海外で嫌われてるのか？
@@user-qm7jw ほとんどの外国人は日本が好きです。この人は注目を集めるために逆張りをする人だ
@@user-qm7jw I'm Chinese,and I know ramen is a different thing between China and Japan,
I think this video is treating Chinese and Japanese people as fools
@@user-qm7jw 言う通りです。ただ、日本は海外で嫌われていないと思いますが、日本のイメージがどんどん変化してきました。10年前は日本が完璧な国だと思われ、みんなが憧れた目で見ていたが、数年前から欧米の人は日本の暗いところを発見してきて、残念ながら批判するようになりました。日本に関してのイメージが返事し始めた時は、現実的に日本の社会文化などを分析したり、それは良くないことが話題になったんですが、どんどん現実的な話題から離れて、この動画見たいな嘘だらけの情報になりました。その現象に通じて、欧米では多くの方が日本の文化を誤解や混乱をしてしまったんです。昔にあった日本の完璧なイメージが逆になって、今欠点のたくさんある国と思われていることが珍しくはありません。
The guy who is invented the Raman was actually in Mongolia😂😂😂
Lmaaoooooo
Noodles has its origin in Shanxi China and the popularity spread to the rest of the world .
Did you know Mongolian weren't farmers?
@奧理斯-u9y yes Mongolians are generally headers and hunters. Besides meat and milk they consume minimal of anything else . What would have encouraged them to consume lest invent anything from grains which the careless.
Ramen originated in China, but the ramen we know today in Japan is a food culture that was perfected through repeated efforts by Japan. Chinese ramen and Japanese ramen are different.
When I was growing up we called it chukamen which means Chinese noodles. We know it started out as a Chinese dish popular in Yokohama-Tokyo where my mom grew up.
as a chinese HELLLLLLLLLLL NAH japanese ramen is wayyyy better😭😭😭 they arent similar in the least if you’ve tried both
Nah I rather prefer the clean broth
Japanese ramen has a much richer broth. Which imo is much better
I prefer rich broth
As a japanese, I LOVE the Chinese one way better! It’s so goodddd
Divided opinions xD
In Italy stole it from China
That's right
Marco Polo spaghetti 😂
@fsxmantra exactly
No pasta did not come from China.
@eagle162 didn't come from f****** Italy that's for God damn sure
A lot of things were copied from China, even their language, like I don’t understand Japanese but I can still understand some of it because I know Chinese
Well to be fare back then China as the standard in Asia every region in Asia look up to China and sometime even pay tribute in exchange for grande and they adapted chinese tradition to their culture this included Vietnam Japan Korea and Malaysia.
And now China is copying Japan by giving the world gacha games
@a.w_520
Influence
Its in our genes to copy. Its a means of survival. Even our human genes replicate itself by copying it's genetic codes.
中華人民共和国という国名のうち「人民」と「共和国」は日本が作った単語。つまり中華人民共和国という国名は日本人がいなかったら生まれてなかった国名😂
Well as an asian most of asian country have their own noodles/ramen version and japan had their own ramen vers
The music had me 😢
The name of the song is "merry go round of life" from Howl's moving castle
Although it's unclear exactly when ramen first appeared in Japan, historians believe 19th-century Chinese immigrants brought an early version of it with them to Japan. Originally nicknamed “Chuka soba,” early ramen was a simple dish consisting of noodles in broth topped with roast pork
Ramen isn’t the noodles, it’s the way the noodles are prepared 🤦♂️
Ramen comes from lamian noodles which are indeed a type of noodles
Ramen is the Japanese way of pronouncing of "la mian" which is how its called in Chinese but they put the R for katagana and "la mian" means hand pulled noodles in china which are a type cuz from Lanzhou as in Lanzhou there's different other ones like 刀削面 (idk the English for this)which uses the same dough as la mian but is pulled differently resulting in a different type of noodle
Ramen is the Japanese way of saying la mian which was js pulled noodles
My bad guys , didn’t realize my mistake, I just like ramen
uh oh 😂
It came from "Lanzhou mian" but locals shortened it to "Lamian". Since Japanese aren't that fluent in spelling 'l', it were changed to "Ramen" in full katakana. So, they never really stole the ramen, but improvised it so it can be made as a fast food or restaurant grade cuisine.
While it's true that the most famous lamian is from lanzhou, I think the word lamian itself means pulled noodle. It's because they use the word 拉 means (hand)pulled. Also, they usually call it Lanzhou Lamian.
Bro woke up and started sharing shit
Oouchi Sadakichi 大内貞吉 opened Rairaiken 来々軒 in Asakusa, Tokyo, in 1910, the first ever Ramen shop in Japan in recorded history. He employed Chinese cooks that brought Chinese La-Mian 拉麵 to Japan, which is also the same pronunciation in Japanese Ramen (pronounced more closed to lah-men). However, ramen didn't blow up in popularity only after World War 2 due to food shortage.
You can still visit Asakusa Rairaiken even today, a taste of the first Japanese ramen and a piece of real history.
“And it didn’t blow up until Japan blew up”
Good joke but for real who cares 😅
@K9boi no when I say nobody cares I mean like nobody cares about the issues between China and Japan that's what was saying. But the joke is funny as hell 🤣🤣😂
@ oh then I’ll delete the reply
@K9boi no dude keep it up. Lol 🤣 just keep practicing your freedom of speech online 😁.
Well, better safe than sorry😂,
The alternative name for fresh ramen in Japan is literally “Chinese noddles” 💀 That’s why it’s often served in bowls with swirly Chinese motifs on them. Japanese people know ramen’s roots are Chinese. Instant ramen WAS invented in Japan though.
Bro has beef with ramen
Yeah i have beef ramen lol
Yeah, beef ramen is delicious. (i never tried it)
I think they mean beef as like arguing
Beef with Ramen is pretty tasty.
I prefer pork 😊
As a Thai who make Pad Thai for a living i am thankful for Chinesethat they created noodles for us to adapt into our cuisine
pad thai = char kway teow
very popular in malaysia and indonesia
brought by chinese immigrant
Ramen or rather Lai Meen means pulled mee! It origin is from China 🇨🇳!
Actually, ramen was popularized after the great Kantou eartquake, because so many restaurants where destroyed by it, and people made street stalls called "Yatai"-s and used that as a mobile restaurant. And in order to reduce the number of items on their menus, most of the yatais proceeded to sell only ramen. The very roots of ramen were from China yes, but don't call it a chinese dish, its a japanese dish with chinese roots. Hamburger most of the time is called an american food because it's benn popularized there, but it's from Germany from a city called Hamburg.
Therefore sausages called Frankfurters came from Frankfurt?
But Japan never said it came from Japan
Long ago the Japanese got influenced by the Chinese culture and adapted to it! It’s so cool how China learnt how to walk so other countries could run…
The Chinese made gunpowder weapons like missiles, bombs and cannons. Then the Mongols defeated them and brought their weapons to the west.
@@zennoix9984 Actually we didnt invent it as weapon, it was suppose to be Firework lmao. 10 decades later, it came back as western canon.
@@drk7648 earliest known firearms is in China. Look it up.
@@zennoix9984 you must be dumb because you don't realize the Mongolian empire and its capital city is literally part of china. The king is still buried somewhere in that part of the country. The only reason the tomb is unfound is due to the suicide of the protection squad after killing all the burial troops.
BRO I HAVE A BOOK ABOUT IT
I already know I read that in my history class
That's the whole reason why it's popular cause it was the best food in that time for soldiers for everybody so yes it's not surprising
The channel says it loves japan but i don't see it from this short 😂
The geographic origin of wheat is believed to be western Iran, eastern Iraq, southern Turkey and adjacent areas to the east.Therefore, ramen originated here.
wheat ? are you drunk 😂
Well nobody said that it was created in japan
Its just that its very famous in japan
Momofuku Ando invented the world's first instant ramen, Chicken Ramen, in 1958. Ando, the founder of Nissin Foods, was inspired to create a faster, more convenient way to prepare ramen after seeing long lines of people waiting for it at a market in Osaka
Ōsaka, city and capital of Ōsaka fu (urban prefecture), south-central Honshu, Japan.
Why is nobody talking about the man in the intro he’s looking too fyne
They are not lying and not stealing ramen. it's basically saying McDonald's stole burgers from Burger King it's a food!
Finally, somebody knows what belongs to Japan and what’s not
日本でラーメンは中華料理に分類されてますよ...
@@カオナシ-h4i けれど中国でラーメンは日本食と分類されてますよ、日本で中華料理と分類する理由は都合がいいからだ、しかもラーメンの歴史が始まったのは日本ですよ
@@カオナシ-h4i っていうか、基本的に英語ではchinese cuisineは「中華料理」に訳せないんだ、ラーメンは確かに中華料理と呼ばれていますがchinese cuisineではありません
@@syndra7757
都合がいい、とはどういう意味ですか？
また歴史が始まったのは日本とはなんの歴史ですか？
拉麺はそもそも中国語なので今の日本風ラーメンが元祖中華拉麺からかけ離れたものになっていたとしても、中華圏の食べ物由来である事は明白だと思うのですが
@@syndra7757
あと何故ここで英語への翻訳の話題になるのですか？
私は日本が中華料理を盗んだとする動画の主張を正したかっただけなのですが...
貴方の言いたい事がまるで見えてきません
@@カオナシ-h4i 都合がいいっていう発言で言いたかったのは、逆にラーメンは和食を呼べないから中華を呼ぶしかありません。また、どんな歴史かというと、シンプルに日本で広がったラーメンについての料理の文化です。ラーメンは日本人の心と繋がっているではないでしょうか。そして、中華と中国の料理は違います。中華は日本で広がった日本人が作った中国風の料理である、だから中華と言います。
All wrong! It’s actually originated in Cambodia.
It's like saying the Mexican drink came from Africa. Mexico put their spin on what was a medicinal drink and now it's the one everyone knows and love.
Bro is telling burger and sandwich is croissants ☠
Also tempuras recepy comes from portugal " peixinhos da orta"
And none of usa typical foods come from the usa. Exept fortune cookies, and if im not mistaken sushi rolls were also american with tradicional japanese sushi looking more like sashimi
As a Chinese, I confirm Japan invented ramen, I’m not sure where this info came from
你真的是中国人吗？拉面不日本人发明的，日式拉面也是从中国拉面改良而来的，虽然确实不能叫偷，但也不是日本人自己发明的吧😅
拉麵一詞就是專有名詞，主要是製作麵條的方式，日本拉麵不是原生的，但他們今天的處理方法也跟中華麵不大一樣了！他們湯頭真的搞得很誇張，一般來說是不建議喝下去的，非常的重口味，但的確是熱量充足
@@奧理斯-u9y没人提南京面吗？😂实际上和我老家南京这家常面条一模一样，只不过多熬了鱼干的高汤做了点改良，这是二战时候带过去的😢
This channel undermines Japan all the time.
Fun fact: boba or bubble tea was originally made in china(I did a whole paper on it😭)
Atarashigako!!!!! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Totally wrong, japan had their own version, which was way better than the chinese version. In fact japan was the originator of Instant Noodles, China copied them
No
Invented by a Chinese Japanese
no the inventor of instant noodle is taiwanese who later become japanese citizen.
Japan glazer spotted !!!
Cite ? Don’t give false information!
Chinese propaganda💀
Risz
Pasta is from China, recorded by Marco Polo himself, is it still considered Chinese propaganda when western people used to be honest compared to western people today who are die hard liars?
It's true
The Japanese also invented gunpowder and the Chinese lunar calendar
@@azraelmortis62 😂
Bro really hate japan and im starting to suspect this is owned by China
中国人表示好吃就行😅感谢日本增加面条的种类❤😊
Sushi came from Thailand (source from sushi museum).
Which is why ramen is written in katakana, a writing used to name things outside Japan. Chinese call it lamyan, and Koreans call it Ramyeon (or Lamyeon)
They did not steal it.
They even used katakana instead of hiragana to imply it being of foreign origin.
Everyone in Japan knows it’s from China and so do most people who studied anything about ramen. The reason they know this is that ramen is always written in katakana which is used for borrowed words from other languages. Like the United States of America is called amerika in Japanese and is written in katakana.
no one in Japan say that ramen didn't come from china. In many places, ramen is called "chukasoba"(Chinese noodles). The names of many components in ramen also comes from Chinese: chiyu comes from jiyou, mayu comes from mayou, paitan comes from baitan, even the word ramen comes from lamian. No one denies that ramen comes from china, but they became so different over the time that now they are considered different dishes
The Nanjing Lore is darker now 🤣🤣
It was not stolen. It was introduced by the Chinese at the beginning of the 20th century. It slowly gained popularity and changed to accommodate Japanese tastes. You can go visit the Ramen Museum in Shin-Yokohama. I went there in March 2023 and took photos of the displays explaining the history of ramen.
This video is referring to instant ramen. Traditional ramen is much older
In Chinese it is called "LAMIAN" or pulled noodles.
It's just the cultural fusion
I'm Vietnamese and Bánh mì is a clear example of cultural fusion between Vietnam and France. Although the basic ingredients such as jambon, pâté, or butter originated from France, when introduced to Vietnam, this dish was creatively adapted to suit local tastes and culture. Ingredients like fresh herbs, pickled vegetables, soy sauce, and various fillings such as Vietnamese ham, grilled pork, or meatballs have made bánh mì distinctly Vietnamese. This creativity has elevated bánh mì beyond its original roots to become a culinary symbol deeply tied to Vietnamese culture. A dish, no matter where it originated, becomes representative of the culture of the country where it thrives and evolves.
Similarly, ramen is another prime example. Although noodles may have originated in China, when they arrived in Japan, the Japanese reinvented and refined them to create ramen - a dish with flavors and styles unique to Japan. From rich broths like shoyu, miso, and tonkotsu to distinctive toppings such as soft-boiled eggs, chashu pork, seaweed, and bamboo shoots, ramen has become an iconic culinary symbol of Japan. It is not merely a variation of Chinese noodles but a testament to the creativity and culinary sophistication of the Japanese people. Thus, like bánh mì in Vietnam, ramen is not a borrowed dish but a unique symbol of Japanese cuisine, solidifying its value on the global culinary map.
As a Japanese person, I never really thought ramen to be Japanese food, since most time we went to Chinese style restaurant to eat ramen.
So we didn’t lie about it. I was surprised to see so many people in the UK thinking ramen originated in Japan.
If you knew japanese then you would obviously know ramen wasn't originated from japan because it's written in Katakana. Anything written in Katakana is derived from another country.
Didn’t ramen get borrowed from lamian (拉麵)?
THE HANDSOME GUY AT 1ST SCENE IS THE STALL OWNER FROM "MALAYSIA" PASAR MALAM, kepong baru
Claiming Japan lied about this is an exaggeration. They always acknowledge that it originates from China, including gyoza and other Chinese cuisine. So let's stop this nonsense.
Yes that's correct Japan didn't lie about this, it just became one Japan iconic food and for me their ramen sure is the best I tasted
Japanese brought Ramen, Gyoza etc during WW2 or after. They were nice even during war-time in China. Japanese couldn't find job when the war was over and came back to Japan. So they opened a noodle booth or restaurant. It's not stealing or anything like that. Now as other things are motivated and alter for better, Japanese are on the next stage to make the soup nicer
Fun fact: The word 'Ramen' is a direct word sound of the Chinese '拉面' which mean Pull Noodle.
In Japan,ramen called “Chuuka Ryouri”. This word means like Chinese food.
Ramen originated in China, but it became popularized and transformed into the iconic dish we know today in Japan.
The Chinese introduced wheat-based noodles to Japan in the late 19th or early 20th century, and the Japanese adapted these noodles into their own cuisine, incorporating local flavors and techniques. Over time, ramen evolved into a staple of Japanese cuisine with various regional styles and broths like shoyu (soy sauce), miso, and tonkotsu (pork bone).
No just like ramen is Japanese ramen and there’s Korean ramen and Chinese lamen
Japan didn’t lie they acknowledged it and they shaped it to what is known today
As a Chinese I have to say stolen is not an appropriate word. Japanese are very good at learning from other nation and their ramen has their own unique flavour and cooking technique.
It feels like in every video he tries to teach us something but in reality when we open the comments section people know way more realistic things than him. I think I like this little life.
Just because china has some dishes that has soup and noodles it isn't automatically ramen
No, I'm sorry. It wasn't China. It was Manchuria:, who Occupied China for over
Three Hundred Years including Vietnam.
Secondly, the Country of Korea is located
just South of Manchuria. Therefore, The
Soldiers of the Imperial Japanese Army
brought back the Recipe to Japan in the
1930's..Also, they brought back Lime Stone
Spring Water from Manchuria known as
"Kansui":, which contains Calcium Hydroxide:,.
also known as "pickling lime". This originally
made the Ramen Yellow, since flour is normally white. This hydrated lime water
is also used in Meso America, to turn white
Corn yellow for use in Tamales, Tacos and
hence, Tortillas, a mix called Nix Tamal !
Never the less:, Historians miss this Hermitage
of Culinary technology due to being a secret
That belonged to the Genghis Khan Clan
who were primarily Islamic Warriors as opposed to Neo Confucian Culture..
A little known fact due to being Shrouded
in Secrecy as in The Veil or Shroud that
covered Jesus Christ !
日本人はラーメンは中華料理だと思ってる、観光客の人が日本のものだ思ってる。respect China from Japan
wheat was introduced to China from the Silk Roads from Egypt and other areas of the Fertile Crescent around 2000 BCE. Bonus fun fact, The earliest known wheat noodles in China date back approximately 4,000 years ago, discovered in a well-preserved bowl at the Lajia archaeological site near the Yellow River. These noodles were hand-pulled and made from a mix of millet and wheat flour.
Even though we Chinese hold grudges against Japan because of WWII, I would not call it stealing. The method is there for everyone to learn and use.
Spreading false accusation just for content. Japanese itself never claim ramen as their original. Hope the video creator satisfied for the dirty money from video.
In japan ramen is called "ラーメン" which uses katakana, katakana mainly used for foreign words or object that wasn't made in japan, so they acknowledge that ramen isn't from japan
That first guy in the clip dishing out them yummy thicc noodles (also in the thumbnail) is so stunning. 😍
exchange and false info? oh man some people in the comments tryna make the internet feel comfort? lmao im chinese btw and i think it was forcefully stolen. look into some history and almost 60% of japan's culture is from china and culture as in literature, culinary, and techs like sword making, paper making, and others. and the only thing knowledge that was exchanged not only china but other places was anime, which was first from the frech, but japan made it shine better. ok im done yapping have a good day
Imagine improving a "borrowed" food so good people thinks you are the original one.
so good? It is just marketing. Just like Mc Donald
Who’s gonna tell him that nobody cares
Something blew up in japan during and after ww2
Ramen and the Korean Ramuyn is the Japanese and Korean pronunciation of the Chinese word Lamian which means pulled noodles