Why Isn’t China Good at Football?
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China are a nation of 1.4 billion people, yet they’ve never produced a world class player, but why exactly are china bad at football? And what needs to be done to convert them into a footballing powerhouse?
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You should do this for smaller countries who are unnecessarily good
Yeah, its way more interesting than
big population but no interest in the sport
like here or the India video.
Why was Iceland in 2016 so damn strong.
Just tounament euphoria isnt suffice enough for such a performance.
Croatia and Belgium
Belgium are good until it matters@jochemvdberg8898
croatia and uruguay are fucking mental lmao
@@jochemvdberg8898bro, surely uruguay? its got a population of like 2m people 😭
As an Indian, they’re miles ahead of our national team anyways 😭
We put all our skills into cricket, bo space for anything else
true 😭
@@yamiali1783 We put all our talent in cricket and STILL are yet to win a major tournament this decade
@@BluTeaaa You are saying as if we have never won any at all 😂 I understand where you are trying to get but atleast we come in as favourites and have good legacy
Yeah China and India massive countries. Key factor is that in both countries, football is not the main sport
7:10 wait till he finds out that there is a Chinese guy somewhere out there named Leng Leng who makes Clocks 😂😂😂😂
You should do Norway, lead by premier league giants in Haaland and Odegaard with good youth coming in but cant even sneak into the Euros
Which is crazy since a so called weaker team qualified to france 98 and beat brazil.
You forgot Wu Lei
That picture is not Hao Junmin but a Japanese player named Uchida.
The companies that bought out these clubs were in horrendous financial states them selves. Evergrande were a property developer taking loans using homes that were not even being built. Loads of them have since folded.
You didn't mention that Li Tie was recently arrested and tried for taking and giving bribery across his managerial career, the total amount being about 10 million pounds
You knew Chinese football is in the mud when you watch the women's team at the latest World Cup. Used to be the top team alongside the USA but couldn't even get out of the group stage.
I think like my country of Vietnam, there are things that China's football federation is absolutely rubbish at in the recent years:
- Not having a competent football federation that cares for the results of the game rather than each personal in the federation's own wealth. Think of the whole Glazers thing at United but with an entire country instead of a single football club
- Not caring about grassroots football's development and creating genuine good young players with good football ideology. This was the thing that got Germany to become a football powerhouse in the late 2000s early 2010s with their ideology of let kids be creative with skills and dribbling at a young age (like a form of expression on the football pitch) before putting in ideology in their teen years.
- Still the stigma that goes for most East Asian country that you're ruining your life if you try and find a career in sports instead of shoving your head into books and give yourself future stability in a 9 to 5 job. That's why the school schedule in Asian countries like China literally has no room for recreational activities such as football
- Gambling and betting problems in the early 2010s ruining normal citizen's love for football in their own domestic league, however this has happened a lot in a lot of countries such as China, Vietnam and even South Korea (the latter people in Korea still actually cared for the South Korean league)
- Speaking of domestic league, the domestic league itself is of very low quality. There is Brexit tackles and ahem...still 0-0 moments everywhere, the quality of football being so bad that most people in China would rather support teams outside of China than ever even think of supporting their domestic teams.
- Being very afraid to export players to go outside of their domestic league, not to mention arriving in low divisions of top footballing countries. If you look at the recent team in the Asian Cup, there wasn't a single player that is playing internationally unlike maybe say Argentina who has players playing in England, Brazil, France, Italy, top top leagues in the world. If you look at the recent squad in the Asian Cup and the World Cup qualification for China, and even China's squad in the last 12 months, there were literally nobody that is playing anywhere besides the domestic league, which in it of itself is already terrible. This is not like the China from the 1990s and 2000s and they are definitely progressing backwards.
- Importing players from other countries to represent China. They have definitely done it, but the haven't done it correctly. Usually these imports are supposed to be including of young talents that are good in potential as well as veterans playing football for years, and importing them from countries that are good in terms of nutritional and infrastructure and not just importing past prime Premiere League players. Indonesia has done this and they went from being nowhere near top 3 in South East Asia to piping Vietnam 3 times IN A ROW recently. For context, Vietnam and Thailand were fighting for the best South East Asian country by themselves for the past 5 years before Indonesia showed up.
But that's just my opinion, because a lot China's problems on not being the best team in Asia has a very striking resemblance compared to Vietnam, only that China dumped all the money into the Super League and being the 2010s version of the Saudi League as well and actually imported more quality players compared to what Vietnam has imported in the last god knows how long in its history.
ion reading allat 😭😭😭
the whole incompetent football federation really hit me close to home. My childhood club Quang Ninh FC who was one of the top club in VLeague and even attended AFC stop working and disband. The reason is the lost of main sponsor, forcing the club president to pay more than 70bil VND (2600000 EU) a year for the player wages. In 2022, they were officially banned by FIFA, AFC and VFF from participating in VLeague.
The most painful part is that the 2021 season, they still finish 3rd despite the player was paid nothing. Showed that the the player attachment to the club. Now the stadium that used to hold 20000 people is just left there for decoration and maybe when the Women team held a friendly match here. 65 years of the club existen just down the drain because of money.
@@LongTran-pg8ew Yeah I remember that, I think it was the concrete company Vissai that pulled out. The sad thing is VFF's nepotism as well as inability to help teams through their problems, as well as sponsors not finding Vietnam's football profitable anymore after Park Hang Seo's retirement made a lot of teams just get disbanded like that due to lack of money.
It also doesn't help that until VFF sent an entire decree to force young players into main squad of first league teams, literally nobody is playing the young players, the literal future generation, of Vietnamese football. Not even in some second division league did the young players get to play.
What frustrates me most about Vietnamese football as well is the inability to naturalize players fast enough (we literally had 4 people, Adriano Schmidt, Andrej Nguyen (who can still rep Czechia), Dang Van Lam and recently Phillip Nguyen) due to our disadvantage in infrastructure and nutrition in Vietnam as well as football mentally, it is also not giving two craps about youth development anymore when teams like Arsenal and Dortmund pulled out of the youth development training system, like they couldn't care less. Only like truly reputable youth academy in Vietnam nowadays is the Hoang Anh Gia Lai academy. And also, the fact that we've not let our players go out to other leagues. Seriously, in our history we only had 5 players I think that ever even stepped foot outside of Vietnam's football league?
i dont think its as complicated as u say tbh. china never had a footballing history and so never put any focus on it since they are good at other sports: badminton, table tennis, volleyball ect
@@SylvieTheCuteSylveon VietNam: have a young promising player
VFF: that cute, send that child the the Ligue 2, J.league so they have no play time and no development then few years later send him back to HAGL FC and got call "falling off"
was so quick to click this vid, if Niran could go this quickly he'd injure the other knee
😂😂😂
Another thing that happened recently was China drew against Singapore in a World Cup qualifier (which they should’ve lost tbh cuz Singapore were robbed of a penalty) and the Chinese captain said drawing against a country like Singapore was disgraceful and he said he quit😭
China should take any draw as a win.
To be sincerely honest in my humble opinion without being sentimental of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view and without hiding any thoughts in my mind and without lies,to the actual truth with my clear open mind and clean heart,expressing what ever is embedded inside me for a long time which I didn't say just because I was nervous.But Today, by gathering all the courage and motivation, I just want to say that I actually feel and think that I have absolutely nothing to say.
LMAOOOOOI
Love this,
You could do a video on Australia. With probably their best World Cup performance in the modern era in 2022, but the Australian FA system is pretty stuffed. Especially if u want to play for an academy with hopes of playing in the A league(Australia’s National League). The cost is insanely high for registration ($1000-3000 per season) which discourages youngsters to play even if they have the talent. Even the Aleague isn’t good enough for young players to develop into world class players. That’s why the Australian National Team squad pretty much consists of players who are playing abroad
Australia's messy story is similar to America and Canada, and less so than that of China. In America, pay-to-play still exists here. Australia has to get rid of the American-style institutions first.
Plus A-League doesn't have such a large amount of money and the Australian government doesn't care about investing it (which mean the matter is left to the private and Football Australia dealers).
4:27 My man really put Uchida instead of Hao LMAO
The rise and fall of the Republic of Ireland would be a great video to see. Controversy, success, struggle, I believe it has all the makings of an appealing video
Headers and volleys? Are you the Queen? It's heads and vods and I'll hear nothing else about it
Corruption is the biggest thing, the team China had in around 2015-2017 was decent and competed in Asia at a solid level, and with the addition of some residency players like Alan, Gourlart and Elkeson, the team should've got better, but unfortunately the corruption in the CFA meant that most of those residency players never got a chance, and the former manager Li Tie, who bribed the way to the way to the NT, had called up players from his former club in return for the bribery, that wasted a generation of players that should've been competing much better, and there was and still is a lack of focus on youth development from the very bottom and players who has potential, although now with Branko Ivankovic in charge and 3 promising in young defenders in Zhu Chenjie, Jiang Shenglong amd Wu Shaocong, hopefully we can build a team around those players and send as many young players to Europe to development as possible. Ultimately, for Chinese football to succeed, we need as many talents in Europe as possible, and invest heavily on youth development, like Japan did 25 years ago, and look at how well that's paid off
Edit: I think mentioning the corruption in the CFA is very important to understand the deeper causes of the fundamental problem with Chinese football, if there's severe corruption at the very top level, then naturally the structure would not be well-built, and fixing those corruption problems is the most urgent issue that the FA needs to address (and has started addressing)
Which is actually very sad since the PRC already has that economic power (in form of sufficient GDP per capita and nutrition sustenance in general population level) to pull that off easily. Something needs to be built from the ground up since the problems seem to be quite systemic.
@@lontongstroong first they need to increase the popularity of the sport. tbf most chinese only love to watch the game, and not really interested in playing the game seriously. to do that they need to find and create local football hero to inspire the kids.. it's not easy.
you should do scotland; thought they where winning the world cup in the 70s to just being lucky to qualify these days
The research behined this video is underated
at 4:27 it's Uchida
That compass joke has me creasing niran bud
It’s hard to make it to practice for ur U9 team when u got full time work for Shein
Saw the notification and thought we'd get an episode of Turkey This Week, but this is a welcome surprise too.
Get this guy to 1 million sub. He deserves it.
Lmfaoooo, I thought Beckham went to China to learn the secret art of deadball crossing.
China actually got rid of there timezones and they all actually just have the same time
The dumbest decision ever. Timezones are there for a reason.
Do a video on Canadas rise and fall and future
Yo wsg niran, Australia Def should be touched on in further detail like the hitc 7s vid
Niran Your The Best. Keep It Up❤❤
Got anything about the Philippines?
love from the Phillpines. big fan of your work
1:54 no way Lebanon used the Serie A font 😂😂😂😂
I'd love to see a video from you breaking down the problems in the Welsh system atm- like all the points deductions and that but also how shit the national team has been recently. Struggling past teams like Estonia and Latvia, failing to beat Armenia and Iran. It sucks atm.
Its because temu has the best scouts there
Reckon you would've ended up in the prime Chinese Super League if it wasn't for that injury mate
Hey Niran, Great Video.
You Should Make A Video Discussing SOUTH AFRICA AFTER THE 2010 WORLD CUP.
100% Always underperforming
@@deandaniels397 Not Always, We Did Well In This Year's AFCON Tournament Going Out In The Semi-Finals.
@@deandaniels397 The same problem as Mexxxico, Saudi, Russia (before the war), and China - insularism due to inflated wage salary for the players.
Great job. Made me laugh, and I learned new stuff. Thanks.
do Australia every sport we play we are amazing at except for soccer/football. would be interesting
Wasn't that Schalke-picture Uchida - Japanese player? 😅
Another pretty important factor that contributed to the downfall of the Chinese Super League was the real estate bubble crisis in China.
Evergrande, the real estate company behind Guangzhou, had to get rid of the team as they were (and still are) in a very awful economic situation, as they simply didn't have enough money to cover their core expenses in construction, let alone to support the football team. And that's only one example.
As of right now, pretty much all private enterprise businesses pulled out of football teams (not sure whether it was because of a law or because they realized football is expensive), that's why one may notice some teams changed their names, as they removed references to those companies.
If you're interested on the financial real estate crisis of China, there's a very good video by Wendover Productions that talks a lot about the Evergrande case.
Can u do one of ireland were not a big country but we used to be good please
This video is needed
Please do South Africa next
Absolutely love the fact that Niran is a Jungle fan. Dominoes is a banger.🔥
I think looking into egyptian football and how we've fallen so far from our high standards would be pretty cool (a lot of murky stuff)
Do a video on the struggles of Niran's Knee FC
I’m 40 and have been a fan of Dalian Shide since I was 10. Sun Jihai was from Dalian Shide. Dalian Shide was 8 times champion of the top league of China since 1994 and two times runner-up of the AFC championship league. Why is chinese football so sh-t? 1. China is very very big and different regions are very different , imagining the entire Europe as one country. Yes we do speak different dialects that are not mutually intelligible in different regions. The Sun Jihai generation was the golden generation of Chinese football, they won the runner up of 2004 AFC Asian cup. The problem here is different regions make different factions within the system and they never agree with one another and there was a lot of toxic politics going on among the different factions, of course on top of all the gambling and corruption, there is still this. Imaging England, France, German, Italy being one country, making one national team while a Romanian boss is in charge of everything and trying to balance the different factions. Yes, it’s hell. 2. Then that golden generation retired. The new generation was only produced by money and monopoly. Dalian has a lot of talents in football but not the budget, while Guanzhou has all the budget but no talent. So starting from around 2010, the ones with the money dominated while talents were suppressed because talents take time to develop which money does not allow. Since money does not last long, we all know what happens next. It’s pure sh-t now.
I can give you a few examples:
1. The top Chinese national team goal scorer Hao Haidong, he was suspended from the national team a few times throughout his career, for a total of two to three years at his prime, simply because of political reasons. Someone in the system hates him. That’s all it takes. Imagining CR7 at his prime getting exclude from the national team because some people in the system don’t like him. Yes. Hao was that good. He is the best forward China has ever produced. Despite all the suspensions, he’s still the top goal scorer of Chinese national team.
2. In an AFC WC qualification game against Iran, China was leading 2-0 till the 50th min at home. Then the head coach made some ridiculous substitutions. And China ended up losing 2-4. Those changes of personnel have nothing to do with the game. Simply he had to balance different factions. He had to put players from other factions on the pitch even if that means risking losing the game.
3. In 1997, China’s first goalie was Ou. Everyone knows he’s sh-t. But he stays till around 2001. Why? Again. He knows people in the system. That’s all.
The list can go on forever. It’s hell. There is no hope.
th-cam.com/video/OQ_A1QxMGd4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_mY7wMCe0BzbexNg The no.9 who scored two goals is Hao Haidong.
Probably would be a cool story to talk about Ireland and their search for a new coach
the last truly good chinese player was suen kam shun, and he played back in the 1920’s. really speaks volumes when your last decent player played over a century ago💀
I enjoy these type of videos. I would be interested in a video about the US, I would be interested in seeing an outsider’s perspective of the team
Because nobody actually play football in China, most people play basketball and it's not to go pro or something like that,it's to get tall and healthy. Chinese people love football,but finding places to play is hard,compared to finding basketball court to play. Most cities or places doesn't have football training grounds for kids to play like in the west. Children in the west could easily go out and find football field to play for free, in China it's nothing as such and onky free basketball court everywhere. In the West, western kids have more access to play and train,where Chinese children doesn't.
Niran could've saved Chinese football if it wasn't for that mind-boggling catastrophicly horrendous knee injury😔
As all ways a great video You should do one on the Republic of Ireland
9:32 I swear down that is Lippy's voice. I hope he's making money off this
If you ask Chinese people, corruption is the killer. Bribes decide who plays (at least at club level), so it's not a meritocracy. I was talking to a guy about it and he got really emotional. It's almost a national tragedy. From my own point of view... half the population is poor and rural, and the other half is heavily urbanised without much access to pitches. It's much easier to fit basket ball courts in dense cities. I remember an article from a British player that retired there and said he met incredible individual talents, but they couldn't work as a team to defend a corner. I did experience that quite a lot at amateur level in China, but surely at professional level training can fix it..?
Yooo, do România. We’re pretty average lately.
1:01 The guy in middle age´s China would say : "What TF even is offside mate?" ... aaand that´s "what she says" as well :D
I’ve always wondered about this
Up next: Indonesia. Might as well.
Ireland is a decent shout for a video like this; the fact that the national sport the GAA (Hurling, football, camogie) is huge, the corruption and criminal underfunding of the leagues within the fai (john delaney especially) and the league of ireland (loi) (premier and first divisions) having such a huge and loyal following aswell the fact that the loi is growing exponentially, just look at the amount of sell outs this season alone in both divisions and the fact that so many new teams are loooking to join ie Kerry, Mayo, Meath, and possibly the reemergence of Kilkenny, Monaghan, and Kildare.
all the while the national team hasn't been to a tournament since 2016 and hasn't been to a world cup since 2002
Why Ireland can't qualify for Europe and. Scotland and Wales can ??
@@abhinay4200 football isn’t the biggest sport in Ireland, but the main reason is the underfunding of grassroots football here and the corruption and nepotism within the fai
A nation to do the opposite on could be Kazakhstan. 9 largest country in the world, largest landlocked, and in the past were a nation that’s never done anything of note but in the last year alone have won their nations league group and just missed out on qualifying for euro 2024.
Ghana will be perfect for this
It has history in football like their performance in the 2010 World Cup. Players who are smashing it in the top leagues like Mohammed Kudus and Frimpong. It will be interesting to know why Ghana’s performances recently have not been that great
0:33 “the china”😂😂😂😂
What if I tell you 50% of this 1.4 billion people make less than 200USD a month. Does that explain anything? One word: poverty. A few words, poverty of the mass and extreme wealth of the few.
True, but the Favelas of Brazil and the Banlieues of Paris, France are also poverty stricken, yet they produce some of the greatest players in the world.
Having taught English and coached football out in China, I’ve always kept an eye on the football project there. I was out there in 2018, around the time of the World Cup, and there wasn’t much fanfare. That, mixed in with youngsters feeling the pressure all hours of the day to pass their exams, as well as sports like Table Tennis and Basketball (they LOVE the NBA there!) being far more of a participation sport, made me feel, at least at a grassroots level, that China wasn’t where it needed to be to qualify for a World Cup.
They’re a nation that could bring a lot to football with their huge population, but I agree, if other sports and facets of life are prioritised and more popular, if you’re already leading in other sports, why necessarily bother with playing football?
But they aren't leading in basketball, they are 29th in the FIBA rankings. And while yes, they are dominant in ping pong, that isn't a sport that is massively popular outside of China (at the pro level that is). I think the issue you mentioned of societal pressures elsewhere, plus their methodology when it comes to training is the issue. Drills and repetition can certainly help in certain comps, but in football, where creativity and teamwork are key, it's more important to nurture that instead of getting 200 kids to do something in unison.
Do Malta
Maybe now we need a video on what happened to Jackson Martinez
Like someone once said the chinese Messi or the chinese Cr7 are farming rice in a village or being underfed
i'd be interested to see something like a "why are ___ so good at football" and use countries who overperform in competitions such as morocco or serbia
do norway next!!!
I tapped faster than a COD sweat when I saw the video😂😂
Do Norway please
Canada would be an interesting one. Not nearly the same amount of population but we've had very little success up till very recently
11:22 He’s a rapper now and he’s not half bad
0:00 china has one timezone??
do Ethiopia we won the first AFCON BUT WE NEVER QALIFIED FOR WC
Why is there no one in 93rd place? It's just blank
Do one about south africa
I think a deep look into South Africa 🇿🇦 or Zimbabwe football would be awesome.
*Chicken Inn FC!!!*
Do a video on Mexico
China losing to Hong Kong, is similar to Italy losing to San Marino, or USA losing to American Samoa
México is an interesting case, I'd like to see your take on them
Mexico is a country of 120 million against a monster of 1500 million and it’s supposed to be the mayor country in the world.
Jordan Oman sounds like a name 😂
Do one for Zimbabwe
Do Nigeria next
It’s all about culture change at grass roots level. For a country with the population of China and the amount of money they have, they really should be doing so much better.
It's quite simple actually. The sports industry in China is not entertainment or even a proper business. It's for either national pride (aka the Olympics), or as a way to butter up to government officials so you can make money in something even more lucrative (such as real estate).
Wonder why there was suddenly a ridiculous spending spree on football? Because Uncle Xi personally likes football, so all the club owners are doing it to make him happy (and maybe get some favors in return).
As a result, nobody cares about actually being "good" at the sport; they only care about "how much favors and/or money can I milk from it before peacing out (or getting caught)?"
赌球的蛮多的😂
Much love from Hong Kong when Niran talked about our friendly win in January
It’s our first win against the Mainland since 1985
Edit: also China’s policy to induct players are also very ironic, especially for Hong Kong supporters as during the 2018 World Cup qualification the Chinese national team created several posters to tease their opponents, for Hong Kong, they chose to tease us over our use of induction players
Do one on Mexico mate
Do one on Poland
San Marino next
Anyway, other high population countries like Indonesia (who are actually very much into their football), Pakistan and Bangladesh would be interesting
Corruption ruins it all for them.
It's like mexico. Super populated but no real players.
Do Nepal. A humble request
Gurkha Ball taking the world by storm 💀
For some nations it isn’t part of their culture and adapting their culture is difficult as America have found out
China technically only has 1 timezone
Zero social credit goes to Niran
Where's the GOAT Dong Fangzhuo?
Do Mexico next