Neil Burridge's Bronze Canaanite Khopesh Received and Tested!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ย. 2024
- Thrand and Eldgrim test a Canaanite Khopesh made by Neil Burridge thanks to James Jenkins commissioning him to craft it for the ThegnThrand Channel to test and assess its historical uses. In this Video Thrand test its cutting ability on tough 3 inch rolls of pour mans tatami or rolled wet newspaper and an analog ballistic gel head complete with artery. So sit back grab an ale or mead and enjoy this exciting surprise episode on to see how effective and deadly the Canaanite Khopesh could be historically.
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Okay, your dog chariot vs Skall's bicycle cavalry. This should definitely happen.
Nope. YES MAKE IT HAPPEN PEOPLE! Personally I think Skall's bicycle Calvary would prevail.
bwuah i think thrand has a lot more combat skill than skall (not meant as an insult btw)
i think skall would agree with you though.
Wow, I am seriously impressed by that Bronze and the Khopesh's effectiveness... I always thought the Khopesh looked really awesome, but was likely very unbalanced, and difficult to keep edge-forward... I must have been mistaken! Awesome as always! I want to cast some stuff out of Bronze now..lol
Haha. Love the K9-scateboard chariot :-D
yeah, that was the best
They were fearsome on the battlefield
Definitly... GOT to get me one of those, I'm in loveee!
Guys, don't be sorry about not cranking out large quantities of vids. Personally I would rather see fewer videos with quality content, than I would large masses of crap just haphazardly slung together. You Tube isn't everything, real life MUST come first; you guys just keep doing what you're doing and I'll be along for the ride. Meanwhile, back at the ranch; a "for what it's worth" suggestion: Maybe do an intermittent series on various topics concerning the SCA and your involvement with it.
We could do that type of series and thanks for understanding on quality or quantity.
" I would say he's dead " 😂😂😂
Loved the dog chariot by the way. A terrifying war machine.
A man on a skateboard being pulled by a Pit Bull while wielding a khopesh...THIS IS TEXAS!
cmbaileytstc Ja!!!
I was expecting it to be more likely to bend in a cast blow, which is why I enjoy the videos, learning how these weapons respond in use is brilliant.
Ceremonial or not it's clearly a fearsome weapon.
Glad you guys enjoyed the blade and props to Neil for being awesome as ever.
Crumbs thats only 6% tin bronze as a long of middle eastern stuff was all very impressive, motivational vids for sword smiths !
Eldgrim's skateboard dog chariot has to be one the best things I've ever seen.
dog chariot=win
great video. .really want a khopesh
Something I would like to point out. That weapon looks somewhat short and small, but considering the average size of a person when it was used it is a decent sized weapon. What I would like to see is someone make one of those scaled up to a modern person, and see how it performs.
The part with the dog drawn skateboard was hilarious! I can't wait to see more from the khopesh, it reminds me a lot of a very early sabre.
Thanks for making your videos, guys!
Take care, and have a great new year :)
It is amazing to see how well bronze weapons perform I suppose on how well they are casted and sharpened they can perform just as well as steel swords, even though steel is better. Awesome video!
you probly need to forge harden the edge otherwise it probly won't last long but otherwise I agree with you completely :)
Hammer harden usually. You can't forge bronze swords, I remember asking Neil about it ages ago and though I forget the exact points it was to do with the melting and forging point being super close together. Thats why the blades are cast and hammer hardened rather than forged
Video starts. Only Eldgrim in the intro. I could get used to that.
3:09 That's so awesome!!
I dig the intro. It's a good format for you guys, maybe experiment with different setups like that? You guys are, after all, scientists. Very practical scientists.
😍 that first skull hit!!!
Great video y'all.
Thanks
Eldgrim! Great intro.
you compare the khopesh to a falcata or a khopis a lot, but in fact, the khopesh was the predecessor to either of those.
very cool
hummmmm thumb up on that weapon
Brutal!
How did the edge hold up after the cuts to the Skull/coconut .. etc...?
Very well actually I was surprised it was on 6% tin.
WOW!!! that's amazing.. I would have figured it may have blunted after the blows to the Coconut! Well done to the fellow who made it!
Hey real quick, you guys own any Albion's? If so which ones and will u do any videos on them
Bronze definitely gets a bad rap, but I think it's simply because it's largely viewed as "archaic and outdated". This does not mean it can't make a solid weapon, not even close- it's the same as firearms: a modern M4A1 rifle is far more effective than a musket, but muskets are still deadly. It's all perspective.
Iron more plentiful
Thrand, I'm just a beginner but I've been to the past few Seawinds SCA combat practices and have really enjoyed it. I really like your style, if you get a chance I'd like to go a few rounds with you out there!
davidmg95 I missed fighter practice today but Eldgrim and I should be there next week.
ThegnThrand will you be at Defender this weekend?
davidmg95
If I can get off work will try to be think Eldgrim is going.
What are the reasons we can all guess about them falling out of use?
If I had a guess off the top of my head without any research I'd say when the Egypt/Pharaohs fell, popularity of the weapon fell off.
How do you think it would affect performance if the edge were on the inside curve?
Think about the kukri and the falx; both have a curved blade with the edge on the inside of the curve.
TAsatorT They don't have the dog leg though.
No they don't, but they would act much the same. Not precisely, but very close.
2:51 ugh that optical illusion! Is it sticking out or in?
does Mr.burridge not make khopesh swords anymore?
i would love to see a test with a ginunting or a yatagan. i wonder how the would function.
he reminds me of Micheal from the office
Were could I get one of these and how much is one
www.bronze-age-swords.com/
Neil Burridge made Thrand's, Skallagrim's, and mine. They are excellent blades.
What kind of edge damage did the bronze sword sustain?
Nicholas LeClair none that I know of did take slight bend but it is low tin content to mimic the original.
12:40 So, is that what happened to Nearly Headless Nick?
What you guys don't seem to realise is that bone is tougher than coconut or PBC pipe, the spine is thicker than that pipe was, an actual head would have skin and the sinew that is very abundant in the neck and face is much harder and orders of magnitude stronger than ballistics gelatin. (Sinew is as hard as hair and over one hundred times stronger than muscle.) The weapon would NOT do that much damage.
With the 20% ballistic gel and set up of the head it is very similar and the Coconut is normally close to a human skull with other factors added I would say its very close.
I believe the weapon would do about same compared to out testing of other blades and the forensic results compared historically.
The artery we use is tougher actually than a vein or artery.
20% ballistics gelatin is a good analogue for muscle. Skin is harder and ten times stronger than muscle, and sinew is even harder and ten times stronger than skin. The difference here is collagen and alpha keratin content, collagen making these tissues stronger and keratin making them harder, and with the amount of each present sinew is as strong and hard as hair. If that sounds unimpressive, remember that hair is hard enough that horse hair was stuffed into some forms of gambesons.
Where people get his idea that a coconut is somehow a good analogue for a human skull despite being fibrous and splitting cleanly when hit with weapons that are so dull you can run them across your bare hand without cutting yourself absolutely baffles me. The skull is not fibrous, it does not split the way a coconut does and it's hard and strong enough that it frequently deflects low-velocity bullets, especially along the jawline. Go ahead and see if your coconut or your PBC pipe can do that.
It's perfect, but after seeing weapons against pig skulls I think it's close enough. And probably cheaper and well.
In my knowledge it was used by the Egyptians to cut wheat and high grass
Monty Lindeman thats code word for enemy's
Nice sword : )
The sword was from Egypt .
as far as I am aware Egyptians had no blood rituals. And they used maces as ceremonial weapons. Can anyone enlighten us?
Pada LAN The Pharaoh's executed prisoners with early stone maces not a ritual but a sentence of law. There is a famous Egyptian stone head that depicts the prisoner being executed with the mace it is on.
I wonder how this weapon would go with thrusting
hailshonny , You'd have to be selective and accurate with a thrust. A strong thrust into unarmored flesh is going to hurt, regardless. But it's not designed to thrust. If you look at preserved historic khopeshs (Google images) this is a pretty accurate replica here in terms of shape.
For the most part thrusts would be largely ineffective unless it hits the throat or face. Thrusting would be dangerous for the user as well as there would be a potential for breaking the blade.
+Merl Ball
I read somewhere that ancient Egyptians didn't use much armor. In that context, thrusting attacks may have not been the safest attack option.
I imagine ancient Egyptian martial arts would've concentrated on javelins and bows and arrows and close quarter fighting would've been done so with strong emphasis on agility and quick slashing combinations.
But who knows? There are no surviving sword fighting manuscript from Bronze age right?
The true test of a sword is not cutting through a flimsy object, it's cutting through bones. For you to put that massive force into a sword to cut such a little thing means that the sword itself is not really doing much for you. The design of the sword is accurate but the weight and size is not. Unless of course it's just a toy then fine.
ThegnThrand I have a theory, perhaps more of a goofy idea, to maybe test. I've seen you test butted mail before. Explaining why it is a historically poor representation for actual medieval mail that was riveted. So this is my theory (might be fun to try). take 3 shirts of mail or sheets of mail. 1) butted, 1) riveted, and 1) made from keyrings (just the standard ones that we all have our car keys on). Test them against the same weapons, same strikes. At the end show which held up the best. I know the riveted will hold up the best. That I have no doubt. Though I am willing to beat a shirt of keyring mail will hold up better then the shirt of butted mail. As I said it is a goofy idea but it would be interesting to see the result. As if the standard everyday cheap steel keyring hold up better than a suit of butted mail it is truly useless for testing.
Woods Lore sounds like a cool idea :)
Key ring mail is a lot like some Japanese mail that was made from twisted links.
Personally, I'm more of a bow-guy, because I don't like the bloody mess and the cutting wounds, but this is just impressive. You cannot look at this and be mesmerised by the shape of the blade, the way it glides through stuff, the wielder... Very impressive indeed!
PS I LOVE the dog cavalry! 'Cry Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war!
Looks real nasty. A cross between a short sword and an axe, with a lot of cutting power.
Would like to see what that weapon design could do with modern materials.
Hey, fans of The Walking Dead, here's an idea...
I guess people will donate money to literally anything. "I want to play with knives. Give some money to buy more of them." "Well, OK, as long as it's for a good cause."
Is a sabre
ELDGRIMMMMMMM
what is up with the viking theme there... as a dane im mildley offended...
How about Gladiator vs Viking
I'd say on average the Gladiator would win, they are specialty fighters, where most of the time a Viking is just a sortie fighter when fighting 1 on 1, or a group skirmisher with little knowledge of disciplined battles.
Then how did the Apache beat the Gladiator?
+Beardshire
And yet, the vikings took on armies of greater numbers, better training and better equipment, and won.
Being a good fighter isnt just about skill... It's also about the will.
You're talking about phalanx combat, to vikingr mostly skirmish and raided unarmored opponents. They were not specialty trained for 1 on 1 combat. gladiators went through a grueling regiment with the best fighters from around the world. and trained almost night and day extensively for killing in single combat. A random viking from a village wouldn't stand a chance.
***** Again, these "untrained" peasants took on the french, and won...
They took on the British isles, and won.
They discovered North America, and literally all of the habitable islands in the arctic ocean.
Like i said.
Vikings believed they went to Valhalla if they died an honorable death in a glorious battle.
This already makes them better of than most other "warriors", because in almost every other culture, death is something you fear more than crave.
Oh, and about "unarmored opponents"...
Remember when i mentioned the French?
They had some of the best equipped armies in the world in the early medieval period/viking era, and yet they ended up yielding and giving the vikings a part of their country, which would become Normandy...
So try again.
Anatomy....
thrand i emailed you about a possible colab get back to me when you can
Lil Mao yes sounds good will look up e-mail. sorry used old cell as armor in tourney lol
adam_thung@yahoo.com
боже, зачем постоянно такое слоу мо по пол минуты впихивать? в чем смысл рассматривания размытых замахов? больше чем в обычной скорости всё равно ничего нового там не рассмотришь
chances are, your ancestors were farmers maybe 1% of the white population has ancestors that were warriors
My true ancestors are the Gods then my people moved from Denmark to Normandy and later fought with William and had a wooden palisade in England and were Barons over land there. You where saying?
Townsend D, everyone has the same ancestors pretty quickly as we move back in time. Warriors and farmers were never sexually exclusive to their group. Neither were white or non-white people for that matter.
my dad was a soldier, you know the modern warrior
I'd invite you to look into my ancestors, the ancient Celts, the Vikings and the Normans, then say that again.