Bless you Colin thank you. Got the island platform weathering / distressing comes in next week or too and a footbridge to distress. Waiting for deliveries so could be a delay there.
Hi John, The master at work again you make it look so easy and the results are stunning so well done. Keep safe and well and hope you can make the stream on Wednesday. Cheers Robert.
Not intentionally, you make me laugh, its what you say. Treat that as a compliment. I would never want to embarrass you nor put you down. Lets have some fun as a group of friends
@@piccadillymodelrailways Hi John, I wonder if you understood my 2nd comment as you said PG TIPS are you to young to have seen there adds with the chimps having a tea party which was very funny and had I think Johnny Morris doing the voices that's why I wrote that. Cheers Robert.
I wish I could say I don’t remember, but alas I do. One stands out when two chimps were moving a piano down the stairs. “Dad do you know the peanna’s on my foot? “You hum son I’ll play it.” Lol those were the days Just looked for the adverts on TH-cam, they are all there. Great to see them again. Didnt realism Kenneth Williams did a few
Wonderful stuff! I’m now off to get the blender & rip up some cuddly toys 🧸⚠️🔪 Seriously though some great money saving effective tips & techniques going on there. Thanks for sharing John👍 Cheers John B
Thanks, nooooooo please don’t chop up cuddly toys. You would definitely have infinitely distressed 2 year olds shouting, screaming and pining for their long lost cuddlies. I use these methods because they work and save huge amounts of money. A car sponge is 30p, paint is £3. But with that I can make a huge amount of foliage, varying grades, slight colour variations the options are endless. If I buy it I’m limited to what’s is made and the cost the shops put on it. No brainer in my eyes. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment.
Hi John - great how the scenery brings a layout to life regardless of scale being modelled. I'd say a fence would finish the embankment area off very nicely. Cheers Euan
Bless you Tony so kind of you to say. Love your third rail btw. Great bit of modelling. Ive had people tell me they want to install third rail ‘just as Tony North Eastern did’. I love when others are inspired.
Beautiful weeds indeed! This is looking really great! Really enjoyed watching this and how you went about this. The scenery is blending well with the backscene as well. All the best, Clint
Hi John, new visitor here. Thoroughly enjoyed the scenic material tutorial, I'm a fan of "make yourself if you can" and use a few of the methods you displayed. It's refreshing to see modellers making things instead of sticking shop bought stuff on their layouts. Nice work Sir. All the best, Andy.
Ahhhh bless you heart thank you. Great to have you along. I do try to use traditional methods for many items if I can. I do buy a few bits. But it is satisfying to do things yourself. Feel free to explore other videos. The one previous was cladding metcalfe viaduct brick by brick. Took a while lol.
Hi John great video again. The scenery looks brilliant so far. I'm looking forward to the river. By the way I've spent all day cutting card bricks and glueing them to my tunnel portal. I've just got the painting to do now lol cheers Andy
Hi John, another masterpiece in progress, great job as always and, yes to the post and wire fence. Would have been something there for sure...regards, Chris
Some great home made stuff you've shown. Goes to show if you really give it some thought then these scenic materials are readily available for free outside. I was studying brambles on motorway embankments on the way to Wales back in February and i was surprised just how tall a clump can grow. Some of them were around 12ft tall. The more dense the brambles the more stems you see with just the leaves covering the tops. Greyish brown stems also works well with them too. I'll be going all out with brambles on my South end embankments. Can't wait.
Ha ha ha oh Tim studying brambles, well all I can say is the journey must have beyond dull, that studying brambles became exciting lol. In all seriousness though, they are probably the country’s most rampant plant and you just don’t see it modelled. You were the first, and you are right how thick, dense and tall they can be. Personally when modelling it I’d prefer to keep the polyfibre quite open, as it’s really easy to roll it up into a ball and the end result shows exactly that a rolled up bit of polyfibre with scatter on it, but the model is so much more. Thank you for taking the time to comment
@@piccadillymodelrailways oh the journey to Wales was very gripping once we passed the bramble spotting stage.. we were heading for a week away right on that weekend the river taff burst it's banks and we travelled through a good few deep floods just to get to the destination 😅 But yep those ones I spotted were great big 12ft high balls of polyfibre lol. I can't believe how big it can get by just growing in on itself. Didn't think I'd ever see myself bramble spotting unless it was for the Blackberries 😆
I love watching your work on the scenery. I got my railway working after 30+ years of being boxed up last October and never did any scenic work before. Having watched your videos (and some others) I am hooked on developing scenery now. Particularly as my layout is essentially a 12 foot by 4 foot oval. It needs scenery to make it more interesting. I concur with most others views that you need a fence of some sort along that path, particularly down to the platform. Can’t wait to see what you come up with next. Well done.
Thanks Roy so very kind of you. I’m so pleased that a few of us youtubers have inspired you to have a go at the scenery. It’s great fun, very messy but the results when you stand back. That’s what you aim at. Any thing I can help with just say. Thank you for the contribution on the fence, I’m doing it now.
Piccadilly Model Railway By John Warner thanks John .... I do a vid about a week ago ... ps I think it’s good we all use different and also ways of making the landscape, it keeps it fresh in our minds
What a great idea - dyed sawdust for leaves and Kapok for fine branches / brambles. I'm thinking of having a go at some wire armature trees, so this will save a fortune and enable me to run up a few practice examples until I get the technique right. As to the fence, think prototype - a slope like that in real life wouldn't go unfenced, especially with a path next to it. Wire and post fencing would suit, I think. Anyway, great to watch and you are a fount of ideas! Stay well.
Thank you Paul yes I agree. I am going to make a fence. Going to experiment with materials. Yes the wire trees work well, Ive made loads for N gauge. Im going to try trees by cutting bits off a dead plant. Worth a go it might work.
Weeds, beautiful weeds. As soon as I read that, the song from David Copperfield stuck in my head! “Food, beautiful food!” Thanks a lot for that! Lol. Your weedy embankment looks great. Thanks for the old school techniques. It’s good to keep them alive. The “ flock “ colors came out great. Nice sunny day. Nice brambles. It’s all about varying colors and textures. I would walk down that path. The trees are just off in the distance. Forced perspective. If you put proper scaled trees on this layout, they would really just be trunks of trees that we would see. If that makes sense. A safety fence would be good. Keep the people on the path safe. Good idea. Okay John, see ya next time.
Thanks Norman, you’ve summed up my thinking, full sized trees would look too big, way up into the backscene sky and just look wrong. I am experimenting with bigger trees at the bridge end of the layout, so see what happens. Thanks for fence, I will do that. Title was kinda based on ‘food glorious food’ from OLIVER TWIST LOL, what you like. I’ll let you off lol Thanks as always for your continued support.
Piccadilly Model Railway By John Warner , oh man! I stand corrected. Oliver Twist. I heard the song, though. Getting old is not for the faint of heart.
Beautiful work with the ground cover. I am on the fence about the fence. If you do a fence it should be in some sort of disrepair. Again, beautiful work. Thanks for sharing.
Hi John, that has brought the layout to life, really good work, yes a fence would be an excellent addition. Also thought the sawdust colouring was great as I have been thinking about that for when I start my layout scenics and was wondering how to go about it and that confirmed my thoughts. I saw a video a while back now when I first started thinking about building a layout with teddy bear stuffing being used to create trees. It was very effective and realistic perhaps something else I shall look into. Look forward to the update on the n gauge layout, thank you John
Hi John that has come out very well looking very realistic as always and that Polyfibre seems very good stuff indeed . I think you need a fence but just a small wooden post with wire a little ramshackle to blend in nicely. Keep well and Safe ........Cheers Kev
Thank you Kev, yes the polyfibre was a great discovery. Woodland Scenics sell a tiny bag of the green stuff, but cost similar amount to the bag mother bought but she had a huge bag of it. I will be making the fence now. Thank you
It looks good, the small trees give prospective and don't need to be any bigger. The polyfiber is a nice touch, I have a new puppy and he like to pull it out, I guess he want to get into helping me...😄🤣😅. As far as the fence I think a board fence in a little run down state would fit really nice...thanks for sharing....Jack 👍👍👍
Hi John cool video, the way of making the scatters is great and the brambles are looking good and reusing the trees to break down and use as bushes i have used myself,not a big fence but a little fence as a barrier would look good i think 👍stay safe
Yes thank you, there will be a few surplus trees, sadly all very small, but useful none the less. I’m gonna have a post a wire fence all rusty and in poor condition, thank yo7 for commenting
I loved the grass scatter thing made from a fly swatter, you have a clever head haha, would of never tho8ght about making my own great time to catch up when had no sleep 😁😆😆😆
Its very kind of you but cant take credit for that. The proper static grass applicators are very expensive and noticed someone else made their own. Cant even remember who. They said loads of YT videos on it. Hey presto there are. That flysway cost £4 plus metal tea strainer ( has to be metal) I copied and it worked. Give it a ago? The fly swat maybe more expensive in current crisis mind.
Brilliant work John and you don't have to spend lots of money on materials, if you just use your logic, there are plenty things out there that will do just as good. Regarding the fence along the top path. I should definitely go with post and wire, as a wooden post and bar fence would look to heavy. That's just my opinion. Love the brambles, what a great way to create them. That polyfibre material is pretty handy for modeling, as you can use it to create whisps of smoke from chimminies as well. Cheers for now..........................Geoff
Thanks Geoff. Yes exactly, even before the current crisis the cost of things is through the roof, so I’ll save where I can. Besides you can make exactly what you want and not restricted by the manufactures. That’s regarding the fence I will get onto that. I cannot take credit for the polyfibre brambles, I saw Tim at ‘The Scrapline’ do it. I put a link to that video in the description.
Lol, well there are many similarities with model railways to painting: composition, perspective, colour / tones, that’s not to mention the application of paint in so many different ways. So you could base your layout around the work of Picasso or Gauguin both used string colour from time to time. So paint your weeds as you please. Lol. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment.
John I think at this rate, Piccadilly Sidings will be complete by the end of lockdown! Lol. This video has been even more interesting than normal as my next video is going to be working on the embankment, so this was really useful. Looks absolutely brilliant John, great work and it's given me ideas. Take care and speak soon. All the best, Lee
Yes that's right, I watched Everards video yesterday and it seems that me you and richard are all working on the same thing. Unfortunately I can't film anything yet as I became ill 11 days ago and had to isolated in the bedroom. Hopefully I'm getting through the worse now (although it doesn't feel like it), but once I'm able to leave the room and get my voice back, I'll do a video👍🏻. Take care John and stay safe. All the best, Lee
Hi john another great video mate i really injured your video the layout is looking great mate I also working on working scratch build colour light signal gantry for my model of lancaster station it is working well at the minti stay safe and well mate Clive
great clip all round and yes i would go with a fence maybe broken in places and where the gap is what about a gate (damaged maybe)...look forward to next update ....it is coming along very well starting to look more real ....
I am just starting in hobby so some great money saving ideas using the sponge and sawdust will try those out. One question is safe to use garden compost I thought there might be chemicals in it ?
Hi, thank you, Im glad you found the videos helpful. Regarding the compost it was throughly dried, now sealed in PVA so should be ok. I tried it by seeing someone else using it, but frankly Id rather colour the sawdust. When we work to a budget Im alway on the look out for new ideas, if they work, great if not use what you know or keep looking. I find ideas for things crop up in the most unusual places. Hoping thats helpful, do get in touch if I can help further.
Thanks Sam, I’ve enjoyed exploring use of poly fibre, not really understood before, thx to Tim at Scrapline. If you are filming with poster paint. if you don’t mind me saying you would better use a camera. Poster paint is made for applying colour, but not good for making videos. Lol :p
very good video as always John we love using mud moss peat and sawdust on almost all are projects, TBH it can be a pain to get the right colour green. catch you soon m8 and keep safe
I'm really enjoying your tutorials John, this one especially. Hoping to use some of these ideas for my N gauge layout 'Last of the Summer Wine Line'. Especially with the cost of ground cover been extortionate here in New Zealand. Thank you for the incentives and ideas.
Ahhhh thanks David, yes I agree, the cost of items is ridiculous, here in UK too. Whilst some of the new methods are great, the older methods still work for equally if not a better result.
Post & wire fence is a must, due to the state (upkeep) broken wires would be a must, when I worked on the Colne Valley Railway (Hedingham, Essex) there were old steel posts which looked a bit like narrow gauge track (even though the old CV&HR was standard gauge) plus trees had grown with the wire within their trunks, which was a pain when I went out with the chain saws! The CV&HR was built as a light railway so the track bed base was old firebox ash with a light layer of ballast, I understand several light railways were maintained in this fashion many by a MR Colonel H Steves (K&ESR fam).
John, Excellent weeds! I really like your approach. How about incompmete sloping picket fence, the sort BR used to paint maroon. I think some very dark patches on the path that are bare will help define it. Overall, a really well executed piece of modelling!😀👍. Regards Stephen.
Yes I agree. I’m thinking too of the rule of thirds, which we use in painting, and it applies in model railways also. In other words any object next to the backscene must not breach more the 1/2 to up, (give or take, as the lower third is the model itself) as this removes sky and therefore the object looks disproportionally large against backscene, the regardless of true scale or not.
Love your work John. Some people are scared to weather their structures or adding scenery but you just go at it! - love that ;-) Do you still have your N gauge layout? Sorry but I haven't followed your channel for some time.. Cheers Joachim
Hi Joachim, thankyou, I look at tons of reference pics before I start something and model it accordingly so its an ‘educated go at it’ ha ha ha. Sometimes things do take work and don’t just look right. Yes Piccadilly N gauge is still there. Took a break as things were very fiddly and intense, so took a break. Update this week explaining big changes to particular part of the layout.
It's looking great John, although I have no idea how you have the patience to have cut and pasted all those bricks on the viaduct! I like your back to basics approach making the scenery elements yourself. I haven't modelled for many years but it does concern me that acquiring all the (excellent) bits and pieces necessary for realistic scenery appears to cost an arm and a leg. Personally I wouldn't bother with a fence but if you do add one post and wire sounds good. But make it look rather run down and past its best?
Thanks Trevor, it’s partly because of the cost that I do make much of my own scenics. A car sponge costs 30p, and tester pot of paint £3. With that I can make huge amounts in varying colours and textures. No brainer really. Think I will be making the fence, and yes very rusty and neglected. Tbh that is the essence of this layout. In reality nature finds a way to make anything look amazing. I hope I can replicate the same.
Hi David, the fence is complete now. I won’t spoil the style here if you don’t mind. Video will be released tomorrow (Friday). Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Yes for a 3 wire strainer fence would have been installed by the Big Four as part of their social responsibility and also it would denote their property. Under early BR and post war into the 80's the fence wants to be distressed and I'll maintained.
@@piccadillymodelrailways At about 8:20 , you say you're adding baking ingredients to the mixture (s.r. flour and margarine) ; I was just checking you didn't carry the idea too far and lick the spoon after after mixing.
It's a bit late to comment now but I would say a fence is vital but it must be scruffy and distressed, perhaps a mix of old and newer, replaced/repaired bits. I'm slightly disappointed that you seem to be covering up so much of the backscene, especially the "townscape in the distance" bits. The smokey, hazy, "distant but not too far to walk" effect tells part of the story; at least I think so. One thing I wonder about when I watch folk using hairspray: does the tackiness wear off over time? Would spray glue have the same properties, or maybe even be stronger? The whole scene is really starting to look believable; I'm looking forward to seeing the ballast areas getting filled in.😁
Please give it a rest for the oo gauge layout for now and go to the n gauge layout. That is the reason why I subscribed to your channel because I am a n gauge person not oo gauge
Lol, there is an update for Piccadilly coming next week. Please understand until the window is replaced (highly unlikely now due to COVID) the work on Piccadilly is very detailed and fiddly, and there is only so much of that I can do. I needed a break. After the concourse roof episode nothing I tried worked, so the best thing to do is have a break. I’ve been wanting to start this new layout for well over a year, so when the opportunity presented itself I jumped. There is a major change coming to park of the N gauge layout, which should provide some work to do.
@@piccadillymodelrailways John, just keep on doing what you can on either layout pal, I too came for N gauge but the tecniques you're using on the sidings apply to both scales. Don't let people dictate to you on your content, if they don't like it...let em go eleswhere. Love this series in 00, and getting some good ideas off you. 👍
Looking great my friend
This tutorial has been so helpful to me .
Thanks for sharing.
Great Eric, glad to read that thank you. That’s partly what it’s all about.
What great videos your producing, this one has given me some great ideas, scenery looks really good,looking forward to future videos, regards, Colin.
Bless you Colin thank you. Got the island platform weathering / distressing comes in next week or too and a footbridge to distress. Waiting for deliveries so could be a delay there.
Hi John,
The master at work again you make it look so easy and the results are stunning so well done. Keep safe and well and hope you can make the stream on Wednesday.
Cheers Robert.
Thanks Robert much appreciated. I’m hoping to be in your stream, cup of tea in hand. which will be PG TIPS LOL
@@piccadillymodelrailways Will you make a monkey out of me!!!!!!!!!!.
Not intentionally, you make me laugh, its what you say. Treat that as a compliment. I would never want to embarrass you nor put you down. Lets have some fun as a group of friends
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Hi John,
I wonder if you understood my 2nd comment as you said PG TIPS are you to young to have seen there adds with the chimps having a tea party which was very funny and had I think Johnny Morris doing the voices that's why I wrote that.
Cheers Robert.
I wish I could say I don’t remember, but alas I do. One stands out when two chimps were moving a piano down the stairs.
“Dad do you know the peanna’s on my foot?
“You hum son I’ll play it.” Lol those were the days
Just looked for the adverts on TH-cam, they are all there. Great to see them again. Didnt realism Kenneth Williams did a few
Wonderful stuff! I’m now off to get the blender & rip up some cuddly toys 🧸⚠️🔪
Seriously though some great money saving effective tips & techniques going on there.
Thanks for sharing John👍
Cheers John B
Thanks, nooooooo please don’t chop up cuddly toys. You would definitely have infinitely distressed 2 year olds shouting, screaming and pining for their long lost cuddlies.
I use these methods because they work and save huge amounts of money. A car sponge is 30p, paint is £3. But with that I can make a huge amount of foliage, varying grades, slight colour variations the options are endless. If I buy it I’m limited to what’s is made and the cost the shops put on it. No brainer in my eyes. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment.
Just gets better great ideas on how to save money keep up the good work
Thanks Graham. May I as are you in Kettering as your name suggests? Im in Wboro
@@piccadillymodelrailways yes I am I've pm u on Facebook
Hi John - great how the scenery brings a layout to life regardless of scale being modelled. I'd say a fence would finish the embankment area off very nicely. Cheers Euan
Bless you Euan thank you
GreAt work. I enjoyed watching 👍
brilliant stuff. thank you for sharing John. some great techniques there mate...........best wishes Tony
Bless you Tony so kind of you to say. Love your third rail btw. Great bit of modelling. Ive had people tell me they want to install third rail ‘just as Tony North Eastern did’. I love when others are inspired.
We learn from each other mate and we get better at what we do because of that. and that's what its all about...take care.............
Completely agree
Beautiful weeds indeed! This is looking really great! Really enjoyed watching this and how you went about this. The scenery is blending well with the backscene as well. All the best, Clint
Bless you Clint I’m so glad you enjoyed it. I’ve had fun experimenting with polyfibre
Hi John, new visitor here. Thoroughly enjoyed the scenic material tutorial, I'm a fan of "make yourself if you can" and use a few of the methods you displayed. It's refreshing to see modellers making things instead of sticking shop bought stuff on their layouts. Nice work Sir. All the best, Andy.
Ahhhh bless you heart thank you. Great to have you along. I do try to use traditional methods for many items if I can. I do buy a few bits. But it is satisfying to do things yourself. Feel free to explore other videos. The one previous was cladding metcalfe viaduct brick by brick. Took a while lol.
Hi John great video again. The scenery looks brilliant so far. I'm looking forward to the river. By the way I've spent all day cutting card bricks and glueing them to my tunnel portal. I've just got the painting to do now lol cheers Andy
Ahhhhhh bless you, bet your brain is stewed just like mine was. It’ll be worth it in the end. I’ll look out for that.
Hi John, another masterpiece in progress, great job as always and, yes to the post and wire fence. Would have been something there for sure...regards, Chris
Bless you Chris HOW ARE YOU?
I am currently working on the fence as I type, who said a bloke can’t multitask lol
Great technique - thanks for sharing -Rick
Thank you Rick, I’ve really enjoyed building this bit and am so pleased you like it too.
Some great home made stuff you've shown. Goes to show if you really give it some thought then these scenic materials are readily available for free outside.
I was studying brambles on motorway embankments on the way to Wales back in February and i was surprised just how tall a clump can grow. Some of them were around 12ft tall. The more dense the brambles the more stems you see with just the leaves covering the tops. Greyish brown stems also works well with them too.
I'll be going all out with brambles on my South end embankments. Can't wait.
Ha ha ha oh Tim studying brambles, well all I can say is the journey must have beyond dull, that studying brambles became exciting lol.
In all seriousness though, they are probably the country’s most rampant plant and you just don’t see it modelled. You were the first, and you are right how thick, dense and tall they can be. Personally when modelling it I’d prefer to keep the polyfibre quite open, as it’s really easy to roll it up into a ball and the end result shows exactly that a rolled up bit of polyfibre with scatter on it, but the model is so much more. Thank you for taking the time to comment
@@piccadillymodelrailways oh the journey to Wales was very gripping once we passed the bramble spotting stage.. we were heading for a week away right on that weekend the river taff burst it's banks and we travelled through a good few deep floods just to get to the destination 😅
But yep those ones I spotted were great big 12ft high balls of polyfibre lol. I can't believe how big it can get by just growing in on itself. Didn't think I'd ever see myself bramble spotting unless it was for the Blackberries 😆
looks beautiful John ,Regards Dave
Bless you David thanks.
I love watching your work on the scenery. I got my railway working after 30+ years of being boxed up last October and never did any scenic work before. Having watched your videos (and some others) I am hooked on developing scenery now. Particularly as my layout is essentially a 12 foot by 4 foot oval. It needs scenery to make it more interesting. I concur with most others views that you need a fence of some sort along that path, particularly down to the platform. Can’t wait to see what you come up with next. Well done.
Thanks Roy so very kind of you. I’m so pleased that a few of us youtubers have inspired you to have a go at the scenery. It’s great fun, very messy but the results when you stand back. That’s what you aim at. Any thing I can help with just say.
Thank you for the contribution on the fence, I’m doing it now.
Another great video. This for sharing.
Thank you so very kind if you to say. Yes, you are welcome to share if you wish.
Hi John ,that is looking good thank for sharing cheers Ron.B
Thanks Ron, so kind of you to say.
Really nice job John ... thanks for sharing.... regards Fred
Bless you Fred, looking forward to seeing what you have been up to
Piccadilly Model Railway By John Warner thanks John .... I do a vid about a week ago ... ps I think it’s good we all use different and also ways of making the landscape, it keeps it fresh in our minds
What a great idea - dyed sawdust for leaves and Kapok for fine branches / brambles. I'm thinking of having a go at some wire armature trees, so this will save a fortune and enable me to run up a few practice examples until I get the technique right. As to the fence, think prototype - a slope like that in real life wouldn't go unfenced, especially with a path next to it. Wire and post fencing would suit, I think. Anyway, great to watch and you are a fount of ideas! Stay well.
Thank you Paul yes I agree. I am going to make a fence. Going to experiment with materials.
Yes the wire trees work well, Ive made loads for N gauge. Im going to try trees by cutting bits off a dead plant. Worth a go it might work.
Fantastic layout John, coming along nicely. Will check out the n gauge layout too! All the best, Paul
Thanks Paul, I appreciate your contribution.
Piccadilly Model Railway By John Warner thanks John, great layouts so my pleasure, all the best Paul
Weeds, beautiful weeds. As soon as I read that, the song from David Copperfield stuck in my head! “Food, beautiful food!” Thanks a lot for that! Lol. Your weedy embankment looks great. Thanks for the old school techniques. It’s good to keep them alive. The “ flock “ colors came out great. Nice sunny day. Nice brambles. It’s all about varying colors and textures. I would walk down that path. The trees are just off in the distance. Forced perspective. If you put proper scaled trees on this layout, they would really just be trunks of trees that we would see. If that makes sense. A safety fence would be good. Keep the people on the path safe. Good idea. Okay John, see ya next time.
Thanks Norman, you’ve summed up my thinking, full sized trees would look too big, way up into the backscene sky and just look wrong. I am experimenting with bigger trees at the bridge end of the layout, so see what happens.
Thanks for fence, I will do that.
Title was kinda based on ‘food glorious food’ from OLIVER TWIST LOL, what you like. I’ll let you off lol
Thanks as always for your continued support.
Piccadilly Model Railway By John Warner , oh man! I stand corrected. Oliver Twist. I heard the song, though. Getting old is not for the faint of heart.
Beautiful work with the ground cover. I am on the fence about the fence. If you do a fence it should be in some sort of disrepair. Again, beautiful work. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Larry. You did make me chuckle about being on the fence about the fence, it sounds painful lol
Hi John, that has brought the layout to life, really good work, yes a fence would be an excellent addition. Also thought the sawdust colouring was great as I have been thinking about that for when I start my layout scenics and was wondering how to go about it and that confirmed my thoughts. I saw a video a while back now when I first started thinking about building a layout with teddy bear stuffing being used to create trees. It was very effective and realistic perhaps something else I shall look into. Look forward to the update on the n gauge layout, thank you John
Thanks John, yes I think these older methods are great, stupid cheap and very effective.
Great vlog,really really enjoyed....😬
Fantastic thanks Dave very kind of you to say
Looks really good loved your video 👍🏻
Bless thanks for taking the time to comment
Hi John that has come out very well looking very realistic as always and that Polyfibre seems very good stuff indeed . I think you need a fence but just a small wooden post with wire a little ramshackle to blend in nicely. Keep well and Safe ........Cheers Kev
Thank you Kev, yes the polyfibre was a great discovery. Woodland Scenics sell a tiny bag of the green stuff, but cost similar amount to the bag mother bought but she had a huge bag of it. I will be making the fence now. Thank you
It looks good, the small trees give prospective and don't need to be any bigger. The polyfiber is a nice touch, I have a new puppy and he like to pull it out, I guess he want to get into helping me...😄🤣😅. As far as the fence I think a board fence in a little run down state would fit really nice...thanks for sharing....Jack 👍👍👍
Thanks Jack, you should get your puppy making brambles Jack lol
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HI John another great tutorial as usual mate. My vote would for a dilapidated fence down the path. Cheers Steve
Thanks Steve, I will make a fence, very rusty and run down
Hi John cool video, the way of making the scatters is great and the brambles are looking good and reusing the trees to break down and use as bushes i have used myself,not a big fence but a little fence as a barrier would look good i think 👍stay safe
Yes thank you, there will be a few surplus trees, sadly all very small, but useful none the less. I’m gonna have a post a wire fence all rusty and in poor condition, thank yo7 for commenting
I loved the grass scatter thing made from a fly swatter, you have a clever head haha, would of never tho8ght about making my own great time to catch up when had no sleep 😁😆😆😆
Its very kind of you but cant take credit for that. The proper static grass applicators are very expensive and noticed someone else made their own. Cant even remember who. They said loads of YT videos on it. Hey presto there are. That flysway cost £4 plus metal tea strainer ( has to be metal) I copied and it worked. Give it a ago? The fly swat maybe more expensive in current crisis mind.
@@piccadillymodelrailways yeah, its amazing, at the end of the day its a bit of plastic with a metal grid why so much
Who knows but for the sake of a fly swat, tea strainer, bit of wire and solder. Well worth it. Take care catch you soon.
Brilliant work John and you don't have to spend lots of money on materials, if you just use your logic, there are plenty things out there that will do just as good. Regarding the fence along the top path. I should definitely go with post and wire, as a wooden post and bar fence would look to heavy. That's just my opinion.
Love the brambles, what a great way to create them. That polyfibre material is pretty handy for modeling, as you can use it to create whisps of smoke from chimminies as well.
Cheers for now..........................Geoff
Thanks Geoff. Yes exactly, even before the current crisis the cost of things is through the roof, so I’ll save where I can. Besides you can make exactly what you want and not restricted by the manufactures.
That’s regarding the fence I will get onto that. I cannot take credit for the polyfibre brambles, I saw Tim at ‘The Scrapline’ do it. I put a link to that video in the description.
It's a 3d bob ross painting , i'm painting my weeds green but you can paint yours any colour you want lol. Looks ace top job.
Lol, well there are many similarities with model railways to painting: composition, perspective, colour / tones, that’s not to mention the application of paint in so many different ways. So you could base your layout around the work of Picasso or Gauguin both used string colour from time to time. So paint your weeds as you please. Lol. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment.
John I think at this rate, Piccadilly Sidings will be complete by the end of lockdown! Lol. This video has been even more interesting than normal as my next video is going to be working on the embankment, so this was really useful. Looks absolutely brilliant John, great work and it's given me ideas. Take care and speak soon. All the best, Lee
Ahhh thanks Lee, so very kind. Everard Jcn has just done a scenics video. Outstanding, well worth a watch..
Yes that's right, I watched Everards video yesterday and it seems that me you and richard are all working on the same thing. Unfortunately I can't film anything yet as I became ill 11 days ago and had to isolated in the bedroom. Hopefully I'm getting through the worse now (although it doesn't feel like it), but once I'm able to leave the room and get my voice back, I'll do a video👍🏻. Take care John and stay safe. All the best, Lee
Sorry to hear that Lee, I didn’t realise. Hope you get better real soon.
Thanks John
Hi john another great video mate i really injured your video the layout is looking great mate I also working on working scratch build colour light signal gantry for my model of lancaster station it is working well at the minti stay safe and well mate Clive
Thanks Clive, fantastic love to see what you achieve
Hi John! Looks great - I don't think you'd need a fence at the top there. But I'm a wire fence would look good if you did decide to go for it!
Thanks Richard, think I will go for a fence, just see if I can slice a match stick into half and drill holes in it ha ha thank you for commenting
great clip all round and yes i would go with a fence maybe broken in places and where the gap is what about a gate (damaged maybe)...look forward to next update ....it is coming along very well starting to look more real ....
Thanks Paul always appropriated
Hi John, cracking tips and ideas. Susannah
I am just starting in hobby so some great money saving ideas using the sponge and sawdust will try those out. One question is safe to use garden compost I thought there might be chemicals in it ?
Hi, thank you, Im glad you found the videos helpful. Regarding the compost it was throughly dried, now sealed in PVA so should be ok. I tried it by seeing someone else using it, but frankly Id rather colour the sawdust. When we work to a budget Im alway on the look out for new ideas, if they work, great if not use what you know or keep looking. I find ideas for things crop up in the most unusual places.
Hoping thats helpful, do get in touch if I can help further.
Looks great John. Really impressive scenic skills. Yes to the fencing, something like the GWR style lineside would look good 👍
Thank you, very kind of you to take the time to comment.
Great work John. I think a wire fence there would fit the bill
Cheers
Bob
Thanks Bob
👍🏻 looking good so far ,I’m just currently filming doing this with poster paint fantastic result mate well done
Thanks Sam, I’ve enjoyed exploring use of poly fibre, not really understood before, thx to Tim at Scrapline.
If you are filming with poster paint. if you don’t mind me saying you would better use a camera. Poster paint is made for applying colour, but not good for making videos. Lol :p
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Looks good John, I would say yes to a fence. It would add another dimension to the scene.
Thanks Scott, very kind of you to comment. I will be building a fence. Im experimenting with materials, thanks
very good video as always John we love using mud moss peat and sawdust on almost all are projects, TBH it can be a pain to get the right colour green. catch you soon m8 and keep safe
Thanks Tim, absolutely no cheaper than nowt.
I'm really enjoying your tutorials John, this one especially. Hoping to use some of these ideas for my N gauge layout 'Last of the Summer Wine Line'. Especially with the cost of ground cover been extortionate here in New Zealand. Thank you for the incentives and ideas.
Ahhhh thanks David, yes I agree, the cost of items is ridiculous, here in UK too. Whilst some of the new methods are great, the older methods still work for equally if not a better result.
Post & wire fence is a must, due to the state (upkeep) broken wires would be a must, when I worked on the Colne Valley Railway (Hedingham, Essex) there were old steel posts which looked a bit like narrow gauge track (even though the old CV&HR was standard gauge) plus trees had grown with the wire within their trunks, which was a pain when I went out with the chain saws! The CV&HR was built as a light railway so the track bed base was old firebox ash with a light layer of ballast, I understand several light railways were maintained in this fashion many by a MR Colonel H Steves (K&ESR fam).
Thanks Vinny, very informative I appreciate that
John, Excellent weeds! I really like your approach. How about incompmete sloping picket fence, the sort BR used to paint maroon. I think some very dark patches on the path that are bare will help define it. Overall, a really well executed piece of modelling!😀👍. Regards Stephen.
Thank you Stephen I will ha. Think
John, deffo a fence... maybe a style aswell... great stuff
Thanks, I’ll get onto the fence, yes I love the idea of a style. It’s a station in middle of nowhere, so the countryside feel fits beautifully.
Mid sized trees in the distant provide an extra allusion of distance if no other recognised reference is close.
Yes I agree. I’m thinking too of the rule of thirds, which we use in painting, and it applies in model railways also. In other words any object next to the backscene must not breach more the 1/2 to up, (give or take, as the lower third is the model itself) as this removes sky and therefore the object looks disproportionally large against backscene, the regardless of true scale or not.
Love your work John. Some people are scared to weather their structures or adding scenery but you just go at it! - love that ;-) Do you still have your N gauge layout? Sorry but I haven't followed your channel for some time.. Cheers Joachim
Hi Joachim, thankyou, I look at tons of reference pics before I start something and model it accordingly so its an ‘educated go at it’ ha ha ha. Sometimes things do take work and don’t just look right.
Yes Piccadilly N gauge is still there. Took a break as things were very fiddly and intense, so took a break. Update this week explaining big changes to particular part of the layout.
It's looking great John, although I have no idea how you have the patience to have cut and pasted all those bricks on the viaduct! I like your back to basics approach making the scenery elements yourself. I haven't modelled for many years but it does concern me that acquiring all the (excellent) bits and pieces necessary for realistic scenery appears to cost an arm and a leg.
Personally I wouldn't bother with a fence but if you do add one post and wire sounds good. But make it look rather run down and past its best?
Thanks Trevor, it’s partly because of the cost that I do make much of my own scenics. A car sponge costs 30p, and tester pot of paint £3. With that I can make huge amounts in varying colours and textures. No brainer really.
Think I will be making the fence, and yes very rusty and neglected. Tbh that is the essence of this layout. In reality nature finds a way to make anything look amazing. I hope I can replicate the same.
A broken down sort of fence might suit, made out of say Matches and Fuse Wire ?
Hi David, the fence is complete now. I won’t spoil the style here if you don’t mind. Video will be released tomorrow (Friday). Thank you for taking the time to comment.
I would say that using smaller trees in the background adds a sense of perspective to the layout.
Thanks Diedert, yes I agree. If I did put full sized trees there they would simply look too big
if it is just a path, out in the wild then no fence. if it is a area that is maintained by the city dept, then Yes.
Thanks Sparky, I appreciate that, Ill have a think.
Yes for a 3 wire strainer fence would have been installed by the Big Four as part of their social responsibility and also it would denote their property. Under early BR and post war into the 80's the fence wants to be distressed and I'll maintained.
Great, thanks. I’ll get onto that.
When you were adding the self-raising flour and the margerine, I hope you weren't tempted to lick the spoon.😂
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@@piccadillymodelrailways At about 8:20 , you say you're adding baking ingredients to the mixture (s.r. flour and margarine) ; I was just checking you didn't carry the idea too far and lick the spoon after after mixing.
yes, definitely have a fence but i think a barb wire fence without the barbs would look nice :)
Brilliant, thanks
It's a bit late to comment now but I would say a fence is vital but it must be scruffy and distressed, perhaps a mix of old and newer, replaced/repaired bits.
I'm slightly disappointed that you seem to be covering up so much of the backscene, especially the "townscape in the distance" bits. The smokey, hazy, "distant but not too far to walk" effect tells part of the story; at least I think so.
One thing I wonder about when I watch folk using hairspray: does the tackiness wear off over time? Would spray glue have the same properties, or maybe even be stronger?
The whole scene is really starting to look believable; I'm looking forward to seeing the ballast areas getting filled in.😁
Each one of us chooses different effects and methods. I try them and adapt or move on if necessary.
Just fence posts with broken fence
Hi Mick, thank you. Ive literally just finished putting the fence in. Its very run down, damaged, rusty, very poor state.
Please give it a rest for the oo gauge layout for now and go to the n gauge layout. That is the reason why I subscribed to your channel because I am a n gauge person not oo gauge
Lol, there is an update for Piccadilly coming next week. Please understand until the window is replaced (highly unlikely now due to COVID) the work on Piccadilly is very detailed and fiddly, and there is only so much of that I can do. I needed a break. After the concourse roof episode nothing I tried worked, so the best thing to do is have a break.
I’ve been wanting to start this new layout for well over a year, so when the opportunity presented itself I jumped.
There is a major change coming to park of the N gauge layout, which should provide some work to do.
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@@piccadillymodelrailways John, just keep on doing what you can on either layout pal, I too came for N gauge but the tecniques you're using on the sidings apply to both scales. Don't let people dictate to you on your content, if they don't like it...let em go eleswhere. Love this series in 00, and getting some good ideas off you. 👍