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VERY quick... I'm seeing more & more customers port their more LOB/enterprise style Power Apps => Teams apps for cost, performance, and management reasons. The biggest surprise they see is how much faster a Teams app is... not because it's fast, but because model-driven Power Apps are just SO SLOW!
@Andrew_Connell 100% agree with you. My concern is moving into team at some point ms likely to charge everyone at some point. They did this with powerapps we free then started to segment it as more people moved that way
For our intranet, we use a non-Microsoft web publishing cloud solution by Igloo for our main News and Blogs for each department.. So a Power App, like a Leave Form, embedded in an iFrame is the preferred option, though we have to click a button to authenticate for the app to load. Can an SPFx or SPA be embedded in an iFrame on and authenticate via SSO?
Sort of... that's called an isolated web part (rendered with an IFRAME vs. a DIV as it normally is), but Microsoft announced those would be retired (learn more in my video: th-cam.com/video/4cMLFpWB6bs/w-d-xo.html). As for SSO, you'll need for force a popup authentication as no reputable modern auth provider (Microsoft/Google/etc) allows their login prompts to be IFRAMEd and thus, subject to click jacking attacks.
It does depends. If its a quick solution with a small data set and collaboration required, then I'll consider power apps. Otherwise, I have to go full stack because of the lack of development ability.
Exactly… it always depends on the situation. Quick & small 1-off solution would be good for a PowerApps, but for something more robust… not sure PA is a good option. But… IT DEPENDS
I work in a team that develops apps with SPFx. However, instead of writting them as SPAs (or single part app page), these apps are composed of multiple webparts and one site extension (usually for a custom navigation). The approach is to place each webpart in a site page, so eventually the app is formed with mutiple pages with only one webpart in every page. Is this a common/good approach?
I wouldn't say its a good/bad approach, because it all depends on the scenario and project. For the way you describe it, giving the user/customer the ability to compose the experience, that's a great approach. But so is an approach where a single SPA has a more predictable and defined layout. Just nice we have multiple options.
@@Andrew_Connell Ok, I see your point. However, it still bugs me a little bit is the (self-imposed) constraint of one webpart per page, almost mimicing an old fashioned web app. Nonetheless, it has worked so far, so I guess it's a valid approach too. Thanks for the reply, Andrew :)
@@darom_96 That's the point though... a SPA is _JUST_ a web part that takes up the whole page. This way, there's no new concept developers have to learn. They can leverage their existing web part knowledge to create a web part that's either just a small box on a page, or takes up the entire content area of the page as a SPA.
With a SPFX SPA, there is still so much wasted space at the top of the screen with the SharePoint required headers. Our team historically would build Single Page Apps in whatever framework we wanted such as React to take up the entire web browser with no SharePoint headers and host them in a Document library with a html or aspx page. But now custom scripting will be disabled on all sites and we must use SPFX. What would your recommendation be considering that we do not have web app server instances available in the cloud to host web apps and host them in a limited SPFX web part or single part app page, which is your #1 recommended approach?
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as a consultant i use powerapps but starting to use spfx more as its next to no cost. PA cost quick rack up.
VERY quick... I'm seeing more & more customers port their more LOB/enterprise style Power Apps => Teams apps for cost, performance, and management reasons. The biggest surprise they see is how much faster a Teams app is... not because it's fast, but because model-driven Power Apps are just SO SLOW!
@Andrew_Connell 100% agree with you. My concern is moving into team at some point ms likely to charge everyone at some point. They did this with powerapps we free then started to segment it as more people moved that way
@Andrew_Connell 100% agree with you. My concern is moving into team but at some point ms likely to charge everyone at some point
I use both Power Platform and SPFx
Thanks for sharing! What kinds of things do you think are best suited for a Power App/Platform or for using the SharePoint Framework?
For our intranet, we use a non-Microsoft web publishing cloud solution by Igloo for our main News and Blogs for each department..
So a Power App, like a Leave Form, embedded in an iFrame is the preferred option, though we have to click a button to authenticate for the app to load.
Can an SPFx or SPA be embedded in an iFrame on and authenticate via SSO?
Sort of... that's called an isolated web part (rendered with an IFRAME vs. a DIV as it normally is), but Microsoft announced those would be retired (learn more in my video: th-cam.com/video/4cMLFpWB6bs/w-d-xo.html).
As for SSO, you'll need for force a popup authentication as no reputable modern auth provider (Microsoft/Google/etc) allows their login prompts to be IFRAMEd and thus, subject to click jacking attacks.
@@Andrew_Connell I see, just watched other video. Thanks for the prompt response Andrew.
It does depends. If its a quick solution with a small data set and collaboration required, then I'll consider power apps. Otherwise, I have to go full stack because of the lack of development ability.
Exactly… it always depends on the situation. Quick & small 1-off solution would be good for a PowerApps, but for something more robust… not sure PA is a good option. But… IT DEPENDS
I work in a team that develops apps with SPFx. However, instead of writting them as SPAs (or single part app page), these apps are composed of multiple webparts and one site extension (usually for a custom navigation). The approach is to place each webpart in a site page, so eventually the app is formed with mutiple pages with only one webpart in every page. Is this a common/good approach?
I wouldn't say its a good/bad approach, because it all depends on the scenario and project. For the way you describe it, giving the user/customer the ability to compose the experience, that's a great approach. But so is an approach where a single SPA has a more predictable and defined layout. Just nice we have multiple options.
@@Andrew_Connell Ok, I see your point. However, it still bugs me a little bit is the (self-imposed) constraint of one webpart per page, almost mimicing an old fashioned web app. Nonetheless, it has worked so far, so I guess it's a valid approach too. Thanks for the reply, Andrew :)
@@darom_96 That's the point though... a SPA is _JUST_ a web part that takes up the whole page. This way, there's no new concept developers have to learn. They can leverage their existing web part knowledge to create a web part that's either just a small box on a page, or takes up the entire content area of the page as a SPA.
With a SPFX SPA, there is still so much wasted space at the top of the screen with the SharePoint required headers. Our team historically would build Single Page Apps in whatever framework we wanted such as React to take up the entire web browser with no SharePoint headers and host them in a Document library with a html or aspx page. But now custom scripting will be disabled on all sites and we must use SPFX. What would your recommendation be considering that we do not have web app server instances available in the cloud to host web apps and host them in a limited SPFX web part or single part app page, which is your #1 recommended approach?
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