Its a reupload, I know, its incredibly dumb but we can all thank our friendly neighborhood reviewer who marked it as graphic law enforcement violence lmfao
Yep. The reason I love this game and this story so much is because I’m not sure anyone started out saying Ryan was in the wrong. The idea and drive to better yourself and break those chains is as human as crapping. Even when he got to “I’m going to build Atlantis” people were for him. But as the old saying goes “someone’s gotta clean the toilets” and everyone says “well yea but not me though right? I’m special yea?” People who came there were the best and you even had people who were low rungs step over people above them from good, hard work. But Andrew never meant himself as part of “the great chain”. He wanted US to serve him and be told he was great but seem like he’s an average guy just like him. This is such an old song it’s the basics of sociology. Ryan wouldn’t allow HIMSELF to be replaced because he’s the ideal. He even went completely against his own “the market will sort it out” schtick when he was slightly inconvenienced. People think they could make rapture work, because they don’t know how it corrupts them. It’s like an endless cycle.
@@mistersippi2945 Yeah, it's basically pointing out that deep down everyone's self-centered and no system is perfect because every government goes against human nature.
@@mistersippi2945 My point is that there will always be anarchy and chaos. Utopia is an unachievable idea. One can see this in all governments with economy and politics. Whether the disorder comes from the people or the government it’s all the same. Man will tear everything down just to prove he’s not part of a machine.
That's the life most of us on medical cocktails have to live with, in order to be a part of society. I trade off maintaining my mental health for a life of managing side effects, which include worsening mental health. I know I'm not the only one like this.
Yoooo. Mine had "Sui----al realisation" so I'd have had a med against the side effects. I felt the draw backs were worse than what I got so I said no to starting
@@drake713 Yikes. Jokes aside, I was fortunate not to have that side effect. I just spent about a month feeling a bit stoned and woozy (and really not in a good way), and had regular bouts of diarrhoea. But when my body adjusted, and I also started psychotherapy, I felt like I returned to life. My only regret is I didn’t get my OCD diagnosed and treated 15 years earlier. Oh, well. Pro tip, kids: if you are having any sort of psychological trouble, get professional help. There’s no shame in it, and your life will be mich better afterward. And if some bigots stigmatise you for it, well, they’re not the sort of people who are worth knowing anyway. So think of it as having an asshole filter.
@@Bruh-kl1fr 3 years ago I committed suicide while on medications. I totally get it. (I don't say attempt, because I did. I'm here today only because of "timely intervention", and unwanted medical treatment, I was doing my best to die after all; and because I've found other methods of achieving treatment.)
The funny thing is that there is a difference btw plasmids and salts from infinite, in the elizabeth dlc one angry recording of suchong said that salts use a more concentrated use of adam and the drink it instead of jamming it so they dont get addicted and have less side effects and can recharge the use of adam using simple types of food/alcool or soda
@@atompunk456 exactly, but Ryan and suchong went for the more cheap and Dangerous variante of plasmids while finkton went for the more safe whit more than 30 years of difference in scientific advancement
@@imanonimus2754 which was part of the point of the two stories, the free market is dirty, takes shortcuts and ultimately rips itself to pieces, Ayn Rand was wrong BUT a cult like or dictatorship atmosphere of religious and social indoctrination leads to internal strife, lack of social development and ultimately is ripped apart by people seeking freedom. Rapture was doomed to fail because of it's lack of standards and help for the common man but Columbia was doomed due to the being overly in the other direction. Find that sweet middle ground!
So the Tonics from Infinite, in spite of them being made from ADAM like Plasmids, were safer for personal consumption then Plasmids were? I did hear that Tonics were made with 10 times the amount of ADAM that the injectable Plasmids were made from.
Think it could be a interesting new game exploring the events of the fall of Rapture and the Civil War. They attempted to explore some of this in the multiplayer of Bioshock 2 but it was limited. Have the player arrive at Rapture and live there at its hight then over the course of the story it begins to go madder and madder until war breaks out.
Technically, the Burial at Sea DLC of Bioshock Infinite has you going to Rapture before the events of the first game, but it's really only days before, at most. There are other moments in Bioshock Infinite where you catch glimpses of Rapture before it's fall too, but you're basically just an observer in those instances. That said, I don't think a game where nothing overt is happening until the end would be very interesting to play. What would your role even be? All the big players manage to lock out the Splicers so would you just be a normal dude trying to survive? Ryan would call you a parasite if that's the case so it's unlikely you'd have any relationship with the other main NPCs except for perhaps Fontaine and Fontaine didn't need any help to bring about the civil war. Even if you were to help Fontaine in some way, he'd just backstab you in the end because that's the kind of guy he is. So it sounds like to me that you'd end up playing a nobody trying to survive on your own with no other goal in mind. You would obviously fail no matter what, though. The existence of Rapture is practically unknown to the world at large so obviously no one escaped and lived to tell about it. In the other games, you never run into any survivor who isn't either a major player themselves or isn't a lunatic that managed to acquire a small cadre of loyal followers. Everyone else who tried to survive, as evidenced by the many "safe rooms" that are often little more than tiny wooden boxes inside the walls, either died in those rooms or never made it back to them. In short, you'd be playing a "survivor" who was either doomed to die or succumb to being a splicer like all the rest. While it could be interesting to see the city functioning before the fall, experiencing it would be much less interesting. The "calm before the storm" is often more intriguing to witness than it is to be a participant of as nothing is really happening on the surface.
@@ForeverLaxxwe are dealing with a multiverse so the events leading to Raptures fall don’t have to follow the events that led to the original game play by play. Maybe this variant of Rapture had a longer golden age and grew bigger before the Adam caused the insanity allowing for a larger mega Rapture. The players could still be there and play similar roles just not completely tied to the events allowing for bigger battles and a new adaptation of the story. I Imagine a more RPG infused game with open Elderscrolls like questing so the player could join the Sea gathering groups collecting material and eventually the Adam slugs from the ocean floor maybe discovering the creation of the Big Daddy’s at that groups end with the possibility of becoming one if your not careful. Or being forced into the Poorhouse and discovering the little Sisters formation maybe recruited to kidnap kids for the program. Or becoming addicted to Adam and slowly going mad becoming a Splicer. Discovering the plot to clone Andrew Ryan and maybe becoming apart of it and ultimately being the character who smuggles the clone to the surface to become the MC from Bioshock 1. Theres all kinds of possible groups you could join with some locking you out of others if you progress to far encouraging multiple playthroughs
don't forget burial at sea liked retconing stuff. And putting in stuff that made no sense and doesn't make sense to exist there. I believe i heard a certain youtuber accurtaely refer to it as feeling like "fanfiction"
Rapture will always have a special place in my heart. I was like 8-9 when my older brother got Bioshock 2. The setting of a city at the bottom of the sea was just so cool! Anyways, great video as usual!
The novel Bioshock: Rapture by John Shirley is an excellent source of lore and background of Bioshock 1&2 from the founding of Rapture all the way up to the breakout of the civil war. There are in-depth descriptions of how Adam came to be and how the denizens of Rapture met their fates. I highly recommend it to any Bioshock fan who wants to know more about the lore of the first two games.
Scientists found that activating certain genetic markers and then introducing a chemical to the body (like an antibacterial course) it converts cells to stem cells, and then encourages the stem cells to re-diversify into fresh specialized cells, with a much lower risk of cancer than originally thought. This is big, because instead of creating blank stem cells and simply hoping they specialize into the cells we want, we can re-template the stem cells and regenerate the cells we desire. This has been achieved in mice so far, though we are a LONG way away from human testing (and we don’t know what OTHER problems it might cause yet, further testing and refinement is needed).
Although it's part of a slightly older series, I think it'd be interesting to take a look at Conduits and the Conduit Gene from the Infamous Games. Might be interesting to see a scientific take on the whole biological superpower thing.
I did some research, and the most likely predator for the Adam Slugs would be crabs. Perhaps they would be bigger than normal crabs, and mayhaps they'd have the ability to produce some Adam of their own, but not as much as the slug itself.
Now I wonder what would happen if two heavy adam users had a child, and assuming the complete lack of restrictions it is possible that the traits created by plasmids could be passed down to the child. If you ask me you'd end up with a blatantly super human child who wouldn't require the constant consumption of adam to maintain their sanity due to the traits being naturally inherited through presumably the standard reproduction cycle. I could see such a character being the focus of a new bioshock game.
@@RoanokeGaming Sure it might not have effected the current sex cells, but I highly doubt no one modified their nether regions which could have spurred the creation of new sex cells with the adam DNA. After all brothels were a dime a dozen, so the likely hood of something like his happening should be greater than zero.
It would have to be done in a controlled setting though. Cause, IF the mother could live long enough without getting killed or mutating to the point that the embryo ends up becoming absorbed into the mother, there would be the fact that the mother would most likely try to sap the infant of any Adam it has. And God forbid if the child ends being able to reproduce the substance naturally like STEM cells.
@@PodreyJenkin138 I would say possibly depending on how smart they were. Realistically, they could have made it not affect sex cells leading to normal born children or miscarriages ensuring a safe gene pool and an endless supply of users, or the more likely outcome is they threw caution to the wind being more concerned with whether they could versus whether they should.
Not gonna lie, you're a great person to watch while knitting. Not even joking. I've been knitting the last like hour watching some Bioshock stuff to get motivated to finish Bioshock 2
Funny thing is that if adam was used to archive immortality, there is a chance someone could splice themselves up to the point where they were like fontane at the end of the first game, but without the risk of going insane or mutilated by mutations via the benign cancer, but thats what happens when you make a cancerous drug addictive as hell
@@zinc333 understandable, id rather have a slim body since im already skinny, but but as the crazy doctor at the medical center said, with adam, the fleash becomes clay, and fontane became that way because he wanted to. With Gil Alexander he had taken too much adam too quickly and became that abomination of his own choice, not a choice he made while in his right of mind, but still his choice to become so. The immortal jellyfish and lobster dont look too diffrent from their respective spices and that would be the only thing any of those adam scientists would have to research, which coincidently enough live in the Ocean.
Damn that's really funny. Because though I've played bits and snippets at friends house never actually beat it and first started my full playthrough on Friday. Congrats man.
I always prescribed the ghosts and flashbacks as a form epileptic seizures located in the temporal lobe. I know from experience that seizures in this part of the brain can induce vivid and relatively long lasting feelings of deja vu. In one instance of this I personally felt like I had experienced a near whole hour of my life sometimes before.
Its the free jet theory (not a theory lol, just cant think of the name) in fluid mechanics. Pretty much as soon as the jet hits the air the pressure is zero. You can look it up, its pretty cool
@@DragonfireVEVO oh probably would. especially with enough force on the water. water cutters are used industrially to cut metal at 55000 PSI but that's with added pressure to the water. rather than simply laying it ontop of you.
I really enjoy these videos. They're always entertaining, informative and personally interesting. I like how fictional medical things are explained in practical real medical explanations. it adds a new level of entertainment while making it potentially educational as well. I'm never disappointed in your videos. Keep up the great work.
I wonder, do the Adam side effects change depending on which way it's ingested, like being more dangerous when injected and more safe when drank? (Like how you can eat vegetables, but not inject them because you might die?)
Possibly. I faintly remember there’s a difference between the Vigors in Infinite and Plasmids in the first 2 games. It gets talked about when you come across the dlc voice records of doctor Suchong and the money guy from infinite (can’t remember his name). There’s talk on both sides about what they’d want to try for their versions. I’d need to play the games again
I've had a stem cell transplant. Done with my own stem cells and thankfully, I've not had a new lesion growth nor has my multiple sclerosis relapsed. I got a brand new immune system. That was 2016.
Andrew Ryan didn't try to build a society in the forest, he just owned the land. It was actually the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that drove AR to found Rapture. Great re-vid lol
This video originally made me go back through all of the bioshocks and then discovered I never played the dlc for 2 or infinite and had an explosion of lore and fun on it relearning things I forgot and learning things I never knew Amazing series
Another great vid! I recently remembered the CoD Ghosts: Extinction "cryptids", and I thought you might want to take a stab at that. It's underrated as a game mode, and the creatures have great visual and audio design distinguishing them from the CoD zombies that everyone seems to favor instead. Plus, they're not like most terrestrial animals, so I'm curious how you would classify them. Did I miss how they could be classified within the existing system, or are they something new? Er, to us? They're very old.
As a side note, I absolutely despised the end of the Burial at Sea DLC... it was great right until the end part, but then it just ticked me off and made me feel like I just wasted my time.
As a fun fact: If someone who is pregnant is greatly harmed, the fetus can share some of its stem cells with its parent to help them recover. This likely happened to me when I was in a not at fault car accident. I had a traumatic brain injury which caused severe brain bleeding. In 24 hours I was discharged, something the doctors were surprised at. Along with that I recovered a bit quicker than what was figured and had minor lasting effects. My baby was also perfectly fine by the way. She is 2.5 and very healthy and happy 😊
18:15 its interesting that people that are meant to be smarter than me have had similar thoughts, one idea that floated across my mind (i may have mentioned it in a comment on a past video?) is that maybe telepathy is actually something akin to some people been able to read the electrical signals given off by the brain as we think in a similar way that some sea life can read the electrical twitch of a fish's heart beating while its hiding under the sand.
I enjoyed the video I think Atlas (Fontaine) explains too when you go up the elevator when you first go through rapture "Plasmids changed everything. They destroyed our bodies, our minds. We couldn't handle it. Best friends butchering one another, babies strangled in cribs. The whole city went to hell." I know you said you would do this but can you please do an analysis of the Splicer and the variants from the Thuggish to the brute splicer and spider splicer?
Really happy to see my favourite series on here (twice 😉) - I was reminded when you were talking about stem cells being injected, that there are some really dodgy "clinics" in Europe that offer stem cell treatment for things like paralysis due to spinal damage... The country either has really lax regulation, enforcement or the clinic just wants to make several thousand out of each individual, desperate patient. They do it by literally injecting the stem cells into the spine and that's it. A few months or so down the line, the poor victim now has a mass of cells akin to a tumour at the injection site. A mass of tissue that is so entangled with the remainder of the spine that they are in constant pain, far less mobile and it cannot be removed surgically or treated since it's such a mess. Of course, the clinic got the patient to sign some complicated disclaimer or else the person in charge just does a(nother) runner. Kinda reminds you of Rapture, eh? BTW If anyone wants citations I'm sure I can dig them out, I haven't looked into it for a while since it made me so angry.
I kinda wanna hear your take on the slug itself. What evolutionary pathway required it to develop the ability to inject a cell regressing agent into predators/prey, how exactly does the slug benefit from it, etc.
My personal take on the way ADAM (plasmids and gene tonics specifically) is addictive is that it's just too damn useful to pass up. Couple that with a bit of paranoia and madness, and I think it might be a decent explanation for how something with such a painful first use could become an addiction.
There's some cut content in Bioshock 2 that says they tried to create both Little Brothers and Little Sisters at the same time - might as well, right? - but in the research/development phase, the boys were "too aggressive" to be "useful." So they stuck to girls, likely because - pre-Sisterhood - they'd already been socialized to be obedient, quiet, etc. It's a more likely explanation for the ADAM production process being more compatible with female children than a strictly biological factor. This stuff *was* developed in the 1950's, after all.
The first side effect were the lesions, everything else came out much later depending on the plasmid and Adam consumption. The main side effect was addiction.
If anyone knows "atlas shrugged", rapture and ryan are literally galt and his city. Everyone probably knows this, but I thought the extent of the parallels were astounding. Especially the "looter" and "parasite" nicknames.
Think you might be able to cover the Vigors used in Columbia (bioshock infinite)? They seem to be an orally ingested version of the plasmids used in bioshock 1-2 and have some simularities to them, but nobody seems to have the negative effects splicers did despite them requiring more ADAM to work than plasmids
Considering the Asylum section in Columbia, even though it's meant to house the people suffering from the timeline convergence, I'm sure some have Vigor mutations from the same negative effects so were hidden away, but it likely took longer to manifest because of how inefficient ingestion is compared to injection. There's also a case to be made that Vigors were relatively new to Columbia and hadn't had the time or widespread exposure of Plasmids that Rapture did. This could be due to a bunch of factors, such that Columbia was based on an idealized version of Colonial America so Vigors were most probably put out of reach of normal citizens while Rapture let anyone who could get their hands on it freely use it, or that Fink was losing money because of the expeditions to acquire the slugs and had to price the bottles high enough to offset the cost, leaving many without. Before the Vox revolution, which is very recent in the game's storyline, Vigors just weren't nearly as common of an item "enjoyed" by the population as Plasmids were, limiting the exposure of the negatives. After all, Fink was only very recently considering a transition to an injection-based delivery system like Rapture used just to reduce his cost of production, but that never went into effect before your character shows up and wrecks everything.
I'm a little sad we didn't get to see some parts of the city in still functioning condition, after all there must have been some things in some level of working order.
This content is amazing. You connecting silly made up pseudoscience with actual human anatomy and how it would make sense is really fascinating. Explaining the unexplainable and provide what sounds like rational explanations. Chef's kiss. Now can you explain to me my Fontaine ended up looking like a man made of Dry Ramen?
By my best guess it was the side effect of taking alot of a few specific plasmids like electro bolt, incinerate, and other muscle growth and density ones. As well as a fuckton of pure pre plasmid ADAM.
I would really love to hear your take on the spice's, from Dune, effect on the human brain. Specifically how it grants precognition and superhuman intellect to those that ingest high quantities of it. Also on the specifics of Paul Atreides, a.k.a the Kwisats Haderach's specific neural structure due to him being a mentat, spice consumer, Bene Gesserit trainee, and water of life consumption survivor. I mention it because I was reminded of it when you said that mirror neurons and enhanced micro movements detection might be what some call "mind reading," which is how precognition works on the universe of Dune. I have my own theories on the matter and even tested a few, so whenever I think on Paul Atreides I feel that it might be possible to reach something similar with training and chemical enhancement. Of course not so exaggerated, but I do think the theory behind it is solid.
That was Andrew Ryan's first mistake. There is no such thing as the best and brightest. No one can give a clear definition, because really, there is only one best and brightest.
hope you can breakdown the new versions of infected in Back 4 Blood! love the Left 4 Dead games and your analysis on them so hope you can do the same with this one!
Bioshock has Telapathy, Firemancing, Palpatine Hands, and Teleportation. . . Roanoke Gaming mind reading is probably just subconscious reading of micro expressions 🥴
I decided to be rebellious the first time I watched this and I decided to go ahead and take a shot every time I heard him say cell, note...it was a terrible idea
0:28 listen. if someone came over and took my property without adequate payment for my efforts and expenses you better believe i'm gonna salt the earth and burn everything i can before giving it to them.
I didn't realize curiosity stream was so cheap. Just signed up. It would be interesting to see how Adam would impact the brain if directly introduced to the brain.
My deceased friend theorized that one element of the plasmid problem was that since the plasmids hadn’t been adapted using an individual whose genes had elemental abilities naturally through evolution itself, they would’ve needed the blood samples of element bending gifted individuals ( ie. AtLA series benders which if such genetic material were adapted into plasmids it may have been able to partially replicate/ reverse the DNA genetic sequencing process so that it could help in finding the DNA replication process necessary to create an plasmids cure) , while also allowing for the ability to keep the powers of the plasmids genetic coding information ( ie. 1/8 of an cure for the mutations in order to prevent the spread of the mutations caused by plasmid use …if true all they’d have needed is an element bending humans DNA cells via blood , then the genetic material being interacted with the plasmid chemistry science, the other 7 parts are yet unknown but an step to solving the problem of plasmids may if it was possible was used to craft an cure while keeping the powers but also to prevent further mutations possibly occurring…just saying is all ?
@19:39 Funny that you mention "no immediate consequences" to slow growing cancers. An interesting thing happens. Thats usually the case for Neuroendocrine cancer. For a while theres no immediate symptoms, no pain. but after years and years of growth they get large enough to secrete their own hormones. When those levels of hormones [Sometimes painful serotonin] become dangerous to the person it becomes what is known as Carcinoid Syndrome. [this is what Steve jobs had and what ive been battling over the last 5 years since i got diagnosed] The problem with slow growing cancers is when you dont suspect it, you cant detect it and over time [in my case 10 years] it will spread to other organs [like my liver, multiple lymph nodes and wrapped around an artery] leading to a level of tumorburden that is inoperable. [the number they used with me was "innumerable"] Today was supposed to be my final Peptide Receptor RadioTherapy session, but the meds [Lutathera] werent shipped yet so it had to be postponed
Its a reupload, I know, its incredibly dumb but we can all thank our friendly neighborhood reviewer who marked it as graphic law enforcement violence lmfao
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Good job
No one inform this individual that we haven't quite gotten to this point in reality
Aren’t humans fantastic?
This is literally: "With this technology you could cure cancer!"
"But I don't want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into dinosaurs!"
Yep. The reason I love this game and this story so much is because I’m not sure anyone started out saying Ryan was in the wrong. The idea and drive to better yourself and break those chains is as human as crapping. Even when he got to “I’m going to build Atlantis” people were for him. But as the old saying goes “someone’s gotta clean the toilets” and everyone says “well yea but not me though right? I’m special yea?”
People who came there were the best and you even had people who were low rungs step over people above them from good, hard work. But Andrew never meant himself as part of “the great chain”. He wanted US to serve him and be told he was great but seem like he’s an average guy just like him.
This is such an old song it’s the basics of sociology. Ryan wouldn’t allow HIMSELF to be replaced because he’s the ideal. He even went completely against his own “the market will sort it out” schtick when he was slightly inconvenienced.
People think they could make rapture work, because they don’t know how it corrupts them. It’s like an endless cycle.
To be fair, that's the original intention. The problem is the one financing the project.
@@mistersippi2945 Yeah, it's basically pointing out that deep down everyone's self-centered and no system is perfect because every government goes against human nature.
@@samuelrodriguez9801 You’re not wrong. But I think the human nature aspect can be used to find a “good” system. Never a “perfect” one.
@@mistersippi2945 My point is that there will always be anarchy and chaos. Utopia is an unachievable idea. One can see this in all governments with economy and politics. Whether the disorder comes from the people or the government it’s all the same. Man will tear everything down just to prove he’s not part of a machine.
Adam apparently still has fewer side effects than my antidepressants. :D
Well thats horrifying lol
That's the life most of us on medical cocktails have to live with, in order to be a part of society. I trade off maintaining my mental health for a life of managing side effects, which include worsening mental health. I know I'm not the only one like this.
Yoooo. Mine had "Sui----al realisation" so I'd have had a med against the side effects. I felt the draw backs were worse than what I got so I said no to starting
@@drake713 Yikes. Jokes aside, I was fortunate not to have that side effect. I just spent about a month feeling a bit stoned and woozy (and really not in a good way), and had regular bouts of diarrhoea.
But when my body adjusted, and I also started psychotherapy, I felt like I returned to life. My only regret is I didn’t get my OCD diagnosed and treated 15 years earlier. Oh, well.
Pro tip, kids: if you are having any sort of psychological trouble, get professional help. There’s no shame in it, and your life will be mich better afterward. And if some bigots stigmatise you for it, well, they’re not the sort of people who are worth knowing anyway. So think of it as having an asshole filter.
@@Bruh-kl1fr 3 years ago I committed suicide while on medications. I totally get it. (I don't say attempt, because I did. I'm here today only because of "timely intervention", and unwanted medical treatment, I was doing my best to die after all; and because I've found other methods of achieving treatment.)
The funny thing is that there is a difference btw plasmids and salts from infinite, in the elizabeth dlc one angry recording of suchong said that salts use a more concentrated use of adam and the drink it instead of jamming it so they dont get addicted and have less side effects and can recharge the use of adam using simple types of food/alcool or soda
Deadass?
Wait
You're telling me all of this could've been avoided
@@atompunk456 exactly, but Ryan and suchong went for the more cheap and Dangerous variante of plasmids while finkton went for the more safe whit more than 30 years of difference in scientific advancement
@@imanonimus2754 which was part of the point of the two stories, the free market is dirty, takes shortcuts and ultimately rips itself to pieces, Ayn Rand was wrong BUT a cult like or dictatorship atmosphere of religious and social indoctrination leads to internal strife, lack of social development and ultimately is ripped apart by people seeking freedom.
Rapture was doomed to fail because of it's lack of standards and help for the common man but Columbia was doomed due to the being overly in the other direction. Find that sweet middle ground!
So the Tonics from Infinite, in spite of them being made from ADAM like Plasmids, were safer for personal consumption then Plasmids were? I did hear that Tonics were made with 10 times the amount of ADAM that the injectable Plasmids were made from.
Bioshock:
Reviewer: "i- is this gw- gwafic law enforcement? 👉👈🥺"
Mean while a screeching reeeeeee in the distance
Its me
Who could possibly be stupid enough to see that in a video about a video game...
I didn't realize you could die of cringe until now.
Plasmids are like a kick from a mule… in the sense that a kick from a mule can cause permanent physical damage and brain damage.
With the slim chance of giving you a Trauma Savant disorder
"THICK, THICK, THICK! This hits harder than a mule with it balls straped with duct tape!"
Mule Kick? Zombies perk?
Think it could be a interesting new game exploring the events of the fall of Rapture and the Civil War. They attempted to explore some of this in the multiplayer of Bioshock 2 but it was limited. Have the player arrive at Rapture and live there at its hight then over the course of the story it begins to go madder and madder until war breaks out.
Might be cool to take a look at!
Now that sounds like an awsome survival horror
Technically, the Burial at Sea DLC of Bioshock Infinite has you going to Rapture before the events of the first game, but it's really only days before, at most. There are other moments in Bioshock Infinite where you catch glimpses of Rapture before it's fall too, but you're basically just an observer in those instances.
That said, I don't think a game where nothing overt is happening until the end would be very interesting to play. What would your role even be? All the big players manage to lock out the Splicers so would you just be a normal dude trying to survive? Ryan would call you a parasite if that's the case so it's unlikely you'd have any relationship with the other main NPCs except for perhaps Fontaine and Fontaine didn't need any help to bring about the civil war. Even if you were to help Fontaine in some way, he'd just backstab you in the end because that's the kind of guy he is.
So it sounds like to me that you'd end up playing a nobody trying to survive on your own with no other goal in mind. You would obviously fail no matter what, though. The existence of Rapture is practically unknown to the world at large so obviously no one escaped and lived to tell about it. In the other games, you never run into any survivor who isn't either a major player themselves or isn't a lunatic that managed to acquire a small cadre of loyal followers. Everyone else who tried to survive, as evidenced by the many "safe rooms" that are often little more than tiny wooden boxes inside the walls, either died in those rooms or never made it back to them.
In short, you'd be playing a "survivor" who was either doomed to die or succumb to being a splicer like all the rest. While it could be interesting to see the city functioning before the fall, experiencing it would be much less interesting. The "calm before the storm" is often more intriguing to witness than it is to be a participant of as nothing is really happening on the surface.
@@ForeverLaxxwe are dealing with a multiverse so the events leading to Raptures fall don’t have to follow the events that led to the original game play by play. Maybe this variant of Rapture had a longer golden age and grew bigger before the Adam caused the insanity allowing for a larger mega Rapture. The players could still be there and play similar roles just not completely tied to the events allowing for bigger battles and a new adaptation of the story.
I Imagine a more RPG infused game with open Elderscrolls like questing so the player could join the Sea gathering groups collecting material and eventually the Adam slugs from the ocean floor maybe discovering the creation of the Big Daddy’s at that groups end with the possibility of becoming one if your not careful. Or being forced into the Poorhouse and discovering the little Sisters formation maybe recruited to kidnap kids for the program. Or becoming addicted to Adam and slowly going mad becoming a Splicer. Discovering the plot to clone Andrew Ryan and maybe becoming apart of it and ultimately being the character who smuggles the clone to the surface to become the MC from Bioshock 1. Theres all kinds of possible groups you could join with some locking you out of others if you progress to far encouraging multiple playthroughs
don't forget burial at sea liked retconing stuff. And putting in stuff that made no sense and doesn't make sense to exist there.
I believe i heard a certain youtuber accurtaely refer to it as feeling like "fanfiction"
Rapture will always have a special place in my heart. I was like 8-9 when my older brother got Bioshock 2. The setting of a city at the bottom of the sea was just so cool! Anyways, great video as usual!
The novel Bioshock: Rapture by John Shirley is an excellent source of lore and background of Bioshock 1&2 from the founding of Rapture all the way up to the breakout of the civil war. There are in-depth descriptions of how Adam came to be and how the denizens of Rapture met their fates. I highly recommend it to any Bioshock fan who wants to know more about the lore of the first two games.
If someone were to take a shot for each time you said “cell” and said someone limited it to 5-6 shots a day. This video would last longer than a month
What a month!
Imagine the hangover
@@lavasharkandboygirl9716 if done properly no hangover involved!
it takes around 20 shots for me to get litty though
@@RoanokeGaming aight Bet, I’ll do it
@@Ghuirm bruh get some help
Scientists found that activating certain genetic markers and then introducing a chemical to the body (like an antibacterial course) it converts cells to stem cells, and then encourages the stem cells to re-diversify into fresh specialized cells, with a much lower risk of cancer than originally thought. This is big, because instead of creating blank stem cells and simply hoping they specialize into the cells we want, we can re-template the stem cells and regenerate the cells we desire. This has been achieved in mice so far, though we are a LONG way away from human testing (and we don’t know what OTHER problems it might cause yet, further testing and refinement is needed).
Although it's part of a slightly older series, I think it'd be interesting to take a look at Conduits and the Conduit Gene from the Infamous Games. Might be interesting to see a scientific take on the whole biological superpower thing.
Hell yeah. Cole mcgrath and sly cooper where my entrance into video games.
Infamous deserves more attention
Agreed. I'd also say add the prototype series to that list too. How the virus effects the body, how some get evolved while others mutate.
I'd like to know what those slug's natural predators were. Would they be subject to the same genetic changes?
Hmmm maybe thats what inspired all the diversity on the sea
@@RoanokeGaming so tge Cambrian explosion was caused by plasmids?
I did some research, and the most likely predator for the Adam Slugs would be crabs. Perhaps they would be bigger than normal crabs, and mayhaps they'd have the ability to produce some Adam of their own, but not as much as the slug itself.
@@Bill-ix2zc neat!
Now I wonder what would happen if two heavy adam users had a child, and assuming the complete lack of restrictions it is possible that the traits created by plasmids could be passed down to the child. If you ask me you'd end up with a blatantly super human child who wouldn't require the constant consumption of adam to maintain their sanity due to the traits being naturally inherited through presumably the standard reproduction cycle. I could see such a character being the focus of a new bioshock game.
Good idea
Hmmm as far as we know it didn't affect sex cells, but its hard to tell what was affected and what wasn't
@@RoanokeGaming Sure it might not have effected the current sex cells, but I highly doubt no one modified their nether regions which could have spurred the creation of new sex cells with the adam DNA. After all brothels were a dime a dozen, so the likely hood of something like his happening should be greater than zero.
It would have to be done in a controlled setting though. Cause, IF the mother could live long enough without getting killed or mutating to the point that the embryo ends up becoming absorbed into the mother, there would be the fact that the mother would most likely try to sap the infant of any Adam it has. And God forbid if the child ends being able to reproduce the substance naturally like STEM cells.
@@PodreyJenkin138 I would say possibly depending on how smart they were. Realistically, they could have made it not affect sex cells leading to normal born children or miscarriages ensuring a safe gene pool and an endless supply of users, or the more likely outcome is they threw caution to the wind being more concerned with whether they could versus whether they should.
Not gonna lie, you're a great person to watch while knitting. Not even joking. I've been knitting the last like hour watching some Bioshock stuff to get motivated to finish Bioshock 2
If Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein were in the same room I bet we would get a sick Epic Rap Battle beat
ERB!
Funny thing is that if adam was used to archive immortality, there is a chance someone could splice themselves up to the point where they were like fontane at the end of the first game, but without the risk of going insane or mutilated by mutations via the benign cancer, but thats what happens when you make a cancerous drug addictive as hell
If being immortal means I have to look like a a buff man made of Dry Ramen or like Alex the Great. I don't wanna live.
@@zinc333 understandable, id rather have a slim body since im already skinny, but but as the crazy doctor at the medical center said, with adam, the fleash becomes clay, and fontane became that way because he wanted to. With Gil Alexander he had taken too much adam too quickly and became that abomination of his own choice, not a choice he made while in his right of mind, but still his choice to become so. The immortal jellyfish and lobster dont look too diffrent from their respective spices and that would be the only thing any of those adam scientists would have to research, which coincidently enough live in the Ocean.
@zinc333 Don't forget without balls as well 😂
Well isn't this just perfect timing, I just finished the first Bioshock for the first time a couple of days ago
You should play the second you can’t really compare one and two other then the same setting but 2 is so much fun and is in my opinion amazing
@@Jaydon_-sx4bj Well I forgot to mention, im currently playing 2 and being a Big Daddy was not what I expected
I wish I could do that again.
Damn that's really funny. Because though I've played bits and snippets at friends house never actually beat it and first started my full playthrough on Friday. Congrats man.
@@TheHomiePit Thanks, I definitely reccomend immediately moving to 2 once you finish.
I always prescribed the ghosts and flashbacks as a form epileptic seizures located in the temporal lobe. I know from experience that seizures in this part of the brain can induce vivid and relatively long lasting feelings of deja vu. In one instance of this I personally felt like I had experienced a near whole hour of my life sometimes before.
1:10 speaking of thousands of pounds of pressure, wouldn't the spray from a hairline crack in the glass just slice you in half?
If you got close enough, but as it enters it slows down super fast
Its the free jet theory (not a theory lol, just cant think of the name) in fluid mechanics. Pretty much as soon as the jet hits the air the pressure is zero. You can look it up, its pretty cool
Not really, unless another liquid or a different atmosphere were inplace.
A hair sized splinter might cut into bones tho
@@DragonfireVEVO oh probably would.
especially with enough force on the water.
water cutters are used industrially to cut metal at 55000 PSI
but that's with added pressure to the water.
rather than simply laying it ontop of you.
Sad that this needed to be re-uploaded...
but glad ya never give up!!
This one was bizarre, no reason it should have been messed with imo
@@RoanokeGaming Since you talk about bodily stuff, I think today's "climate" has censors on you with a microscope. Just winging it though...
Brilliant video, Roanoke, thank you so much! As a fan of the Bioshock series, every bit of lore is more than welcome :D
I really enjoy these videos. They're always entertaining, informative and personally interesting. I like how fictional medical things are explained in practical real medical explanations. it adds a new level of entertainment while making it potentially educational as well. I'm never disappointed in your videos. Keep up the great work.
I wonder, do the Adam side effects change depending on which way it's ingested, like being more dangerous when injected and more safe when drank? (Like how you can eat vegetables, but not inject them because you might die?)
Possibly. I faintly remember there’s a difference between the Vigors in Infinite and Plasmids in the first 2 games. It gets talked about when you come across the dlc voice records of doctor Suchong and the money guy from infinite (can’t remember his name). There’s talk on both sides about what they’d want to try for their versions.
I’d need to play the games again
@@sylas3265 In infinite theres a whiteboard that says that vigors use 10x more adam than plasmids, maybe that makes vigors more safe?
I've had a stem cell transplant. Done with my own stem cells and thankfully, I've not had a new lesion growth nor has my multiple sclerosis relapsed. I got a brand new immune system. That was 2016.
Andrew Ryan didn't try to build a society in the forest, he just owned the land. It was actually the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that drove AR to found Rapture. Great re-vid lol
Isn't that Sophia Lamb?
This video originally made me go back through all of the bioshocks and then discovered I never played the dlc for 2 or infinite and had an explosion of lore and fun on it relearning things I forgot and learning things I never knew
Amazing series
Another great vid! I recently remembered the CoD Ghosts: Extinction "cryptids", and I thought you might want to take a stab at that. It's underrated as a game mode, and the creatures have great visual and audio design distinguishing them from the CoD zombies that everyone seems to favor instead. Plus, they're not like most terrestrial animals, so I'm curious how you would classify them. Did I miss how they could be classified within the existing system, or are they something new? Er, to us? They're very old.
Woah, Woah, WOAH!!!! Adam use causes Shingles and Spider Veins? Frank, you monster!
As a side note, I absolutely despised the end of the Burial at Sea DLC... it was great right until the end part, but then it just ticked me off and made me feel like I just wasted my time.
As a fun fact: If someone who is pregnant is greatly harmed, the fetus can share some of its stem cells with its parent to help them recover.
This likely happened to me when I was in a not at fault car accident. I had a traumatic brain injury which caused severe brain bleeding. In 24 hours I was discharged, something the doctors were surprised at. Along with that I recovered a bit quicker than what was figured and had minor lasting effects.
My baby was also perfectly fine by the way. She is 2.5 and very healthy and happy 😊
18:15 its interesting that people that are meant to be smarter than me have had similar thoughts, one idea that floated across my mind (i may have mentioned it in a comment on a past video?) is that maybe telepathy is actually something akin to some people been able to read the electrical signals given off by the brain as we think in a similar way that some sea life can read the electrical twitch of a fish's heart beating while its hiding under the sand.
There is an amazing prequel novel written by John Shirley.
I enjoyed the video I think Atlas (Fontaine) explains too when you go up the elevator when you first go through rapture "Plasmids changed everything. They destroyed our bodies, our minds. We couldn't handle it. Best friends butchering one another, babies strangled in cribs. The whole city went to hell." I know you said you would do this but can you please do an analysis of the Splicer and the variants from the Thuggish to the brute splicer and spider splicer?
Really happy to see my favourite series on here (twice 😉) - I was reminded when you were talking about stem cells being injected, that there are some really dodgy "clinics" in Europe that offer stem cell treatment for things like paralysis due to spinal damage... The country either has really lax regulation, enforcement or the clinic just wants to make several thousand out of each individual, desperate patient.
They do it by literally injecting the stem cells into the spine and that's it. A few months or so down the line, the poor victim now has a mass of cells akin to a tumour at the injection site.
A mass of tissue that is so entangled with the remainder of the spine that they are in constant pain, far less mobile and it cannot be removed surgically or treated since it's such a mess. Of course, the clinic got the patient to sign some complicated disclaimer or else the person in charge just does a(nother) runner.
Kinda reminds you of Rapture, eh?
BTW If anyone wants citations I'm sure I can dig them out, I haven't looked into it for a while since it made me so angry.
I kinda wanna hear your take on the slug itself. What evolutionary pathway required it to develop the ability to inject a cell regressing agent into predators/prey, how exactly does the slug benefit from it, etc.
Maybe to try to heal itself from pretaderor attack
My personal take on the way ADAM (plasmids and gene tonics specifically) is addictive is that it's just too damn useful to pass up. Couple that with a bit of paranoia and madness, and I think it might be a decent explanation for how something with such a painful first use could become an addiction.
There's some cut content in Bioshock 2 that says they tried to create both Little Brothers and Little Sisters at the same time - might as well, right? - but in the research/development phase, the boys were "too aggressive" to be "useful." So they stuck to girls, likely because - pre-Sisterhood - they'd already been socialized to be obedient, quiet, etc. It's a more likely explanation for the ADAM production process being more compatible with female children than a strictly biological factor. This stuff *was* developed in the 1950's, after all.
The first side effect were the lesions, everything else came out much later depending on the plasmid and Adam consumption. The main side effect was addiction.
If anyone knows "atlas shrugged", rapture and ryan are literally galt and his city. Everyone probably knows this, but I thought the extent of the parallels were astounding. Especially the "looter" and "parasite" nicknames.
I recently got into Bioshock, so the relevance of this is wonderful
Think you might be able to cover the Vigors used in Columbia (bioshock infinite)? They seem to be an orally ingested version of the plasmids used in bioshock 1-2 and have some simularities to them, but nobody seems to have the negative effects splicers did despite them requiring more ADAM to work than plasmids
Considering the Asylum section in Columbia, even though it's meant to house the people suffering from the timeline convergence, I'm sure some have Vigor mutations from the same negative effects so were hidden away, but it likely took longer to manifest because of how inefficient ingestion is compared to injection. There's also a case to be made that Vigors were relatively new to Columbia and hadn't had the time or widespread exposure of Plasmids that Rapture did. This could be due to a bunch of factors, such that Columbia was based on an idealized version of Colonial America so Vigors were most probably put out of reach of normal citizens while Rapture let anyone who could get their hands on it freely use it, or that Fink was losing money because of the expeditions to acquire the slugs and had to price the bottles high enough to offset the cost, leaving many without.
Before the Vox revolution, which is very recent in the game's storyline, Vigors just weren't nearly as common of an item "enjoyed" by the population as Plasmids were, limiting the exposure of the negatives. After all, Fink was only very recently considering a transition to an injection-based delivery system like Rapture used just to reduce his cost of production, but that never went into effect before your character shows up and wrecks everything.
If anything Bioshock is a hard lesson on why rules and regulations are there to begin with.
I'm a little sad we didn't get to see some parts of the city in still functioning condition, after all there must have been some things in some level of working order.
Watching the entire reupload because I love these bioshock videos!!
Love the content! (And the timestamp labels)
I took a shot every time you've said "cell" Roanoke, but it was just shot of water, so in the end, I just needed to go to bathroom ...
Can you do a video on Eve? I can't find anything explaining it, where it comes from, how it interacts with Adam, ect.
22:52 I'm kinda disappointed you didn't just go DON'T DO DRUGS, KIDS!!!
I love this topic. BioShock lore fascinates me. Great video.
Ahhh Adam. Side effects are typically mild but usually fatal.
The debacle that was D.A.R.E. would fit in perfectly in the Bioshock universe.
Superpowers through gene splicing 🧬 is still a cool idea.
This content is amazing. You connecting silly made up pseudoscience with actual human anatomy and how it would make sense is really fascinating. Explaining the unexplainable and provide what sounds like rational explanations.
Chef's kiss.
Now can you explain to me my Fontaine ended up looking like a man made of Dry Ramen?
By my best guess it was the side effect of taking alot of a few specific plasmids like electro bolt, incinerate, and other muscle growth and density ones. As well as a fuckton of pure pre plasmid ADAM.
I would really love to hear your take on the spice's, from Dune, effect on the human brain. Specifically how it grants precognition and superhuman intellect to those that ingest high quantities of it. Also on the specifics of Paul Atreides, a.k.a the Kwisats Haderach's specific neural structure due to him being a mentat, spice consumer, Bene Gesserit trainee, and water of life consumption survivor.
I mention it because I was reminded of it when you said that mirror neurons and enhanced micro movements detection might be what some call "mind reading," which is how precognition works on the universe of Dune.
I have my own theories on the matter and even tested a few, so whenever I think on Paul Atreides I feel that it might be possible to reach something similar with training and chemical enhancement. Of course not so exaggerated, but I do think the theory behind it is solid.
Would love to see you cover the werewolf virus from Ginger Snaps!
Know what I’ll watch it again just because I enjoy your videos (not like I haven’t watched them all multiple times lol)
"Don't take a shot every time I say cell"
*immediately after says cells 3 times in 5 seconds*
I had just finished WowSuchGaming's vid on Rapture so this is perfectly timed.
Some say, that a 2nd, entirely safer alternative to the madness seen in bioshock, but was promptly rejected.
Bob just didn't have the same ring to it.
Even when its a re-upload, i think to myself... "YEEEEEEEEEEESH more Bioshock!!!!!!!!!!" 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yes Bioshock! Love the content!
These chapter titles always make my day
That was Andrew Ryan's first mistake. There is no such thing as the best and brightest. No one can give a clear definition, because really, there is only one best and brightest.
I counted ‘cell’ 20 times before he mentioned NOT drinking each time it was mentioned. By the end, I heard it a grand total of 55 times.
hope you can breakdown the new versions of infected in Back 4 Blood! love the Left 4 Dead games and your analysis on them so hope you can do the same with this one!
I’m so excited for the new bioshock.
I just can't stop watching these
Bioshock has Telapathy, Firemancing, Palpatine Hands, and Teleportation. . .
Roanoke Gaming mind reading is probably just subconscious reading of micro expressions 🥴
After all the Bioshock stuff I would like to see your take on Prey‘s Neuromods and Typhon organisms
It would be nice if you made a video about the x parasite from Metroid since it's a pretty interesting organism
Good God I almost forgot just how PHENOMENAL the first 2 BioShock games were
You should totally do a video on Elinor from the second game.
I decided to be rebellious the first time I watched this and I decided to go ahead and take a shot every time I heard him say cell, note...it was a terrible idea
"Don't take a shot every time I say cell" *proceeds to say cell 3 more times within 7 seconds*
Take a blinker every time Roanoke says “cell”
"Dont take a shot everytime I say 'cell' cause you might need to go to the hospital."
One bad idea later: x_x
After watching this video my liver will never be the same lmao gonna need that quality Adam
Took a shot every time you said CELL, but I chose to use beer and not something stronger
Are there actual successful examples of injuries causing nerve damage having been healed to the point of reversing the paralysis effect?
Curious I’m the more explanation as to why Jack was unaffected by Adam canonically
And so, the Bioshock 4 hype begins
Some tea, a nice big sandwich, and a new Roanoke video to start the morning? Yes, please.
Always here for the reuploads!
Here's hoping dear ole Roanoke makes a video on the Protoss/Zerg from the Starcraft series
Roanoke: "Don't take a shot every time I say cells-"
Me: "TOO LATE!" (Hick ups)
“…Are the turds float by?” The question that haunts us all
0:28 listen. if someone came over and took my property without adequate payment for my efforts and expenses you better believe i'm gonna salt the earth and burn everything i can before giving it to them.
I made a drinking game every time he says cell, 15 min in and in drunk 😂😅
love the SCP stuff, its tempo isn't as good as the movie/videogame stuff though and thats understandable, just some viewer feedback!! thanks Roanoke
I didn't realize curiosity stream was so cheap. Just signed up. It would be interesting to see how Adam would impact the brain if directly introduced to the brain.
There are ads in bioshock (2) for super smart plasmids which are supposed to give you a huge IQ boost. Don't know how those people ended up tho
got bioshock collection on switch, hot damn i love these games
Thought I was stuck in the twilight zone seeing this released today cause I knew I watched it in September o_o phew 😅
My deceased friend theorized that one element of the plasmid problem was that since the plasmids hadn’t been adapted using an individual whose genes had elemental abilities naturally through evolution itself, they would’ve needed the blood samples of element bending gifted individuals ( ie. AtLA series benders which if such genetic material were adapted into plasmids it may have been able to partially replicate/ reverse the DNA genetic sequencing process so that it could help in finding the DNA replication process necessary to create an plasmids cure) , while also allowing for the ability to keep the powers of the plasmids genetic coding information ( ie. 1/8 of an cure for the mutations in order to prevent the spread of the mutations caused by plasmid use …if true all they’d have needed is an element bending humans DNA cells via blood , then the genetic material being interacted with the plasmid chemistry science, the other 7 parts are yet unknown but an step to solving the problem of plasmids may if it was possible was used to craft an cure while keeping the powers but also to prevent further mutations possibly occurring…just saying is all ?
@19:39 Funny that you mention "no immediate consequences" to slow growing cancers. An interesting thing happens.
Thats usually the case for Neuroendocrine cancer. For a while theres no immediate symptoms, no pain. but after years and years of growth they get large enough to secrete their own hormones.
When those levels of hormones [Sometimes painful serotonin] become dangerous to the person it becomes what is known as Carcinoid Syndrome. [this is what Steve jobs had and what ive been battling over the last 5 years since i got diagnosed]
The problem with slow growing cancers is when you dont suspect it, you cant detect it and over time [in my case 10 years] it will spread to other organs [like my liver, multiple lymph nodes and wrapped around an artery] leading to a level of tumorburden that is inoperable. [the number they used with me was "innumerable"]
Today was supposed to be my final Peptide Receptor RadioTherapy session, but the meds [Lutathera] werent shipped yet so it had to be postponed
At 10:12, my man sounded like he was listing off all of the symptoms of a irl current drug
Oh yesss, the king is back.
My mirror neurons must be defective.
I took a puff from my thc vape every time you said cell. I died
So... there's wifi in at least one afterlife. Nice.
Hey i know im not a patreon but you should definitely cover what you think the zombie virus in the various cod games are
Didn’t need to go to the Hospital but went for the Toilet after drinking a shot for everytime the Word „Cell“ was spoken.
Your body is a straight G for that lol
@@RoanokeGaming your Video us still giving me a Rough Time at the Toilet but I won’t go to the Hospital.