The i5 6500 in 2022, and a disappointing upgrade to a weird prebuilt PC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Today we're adding the old "sweet spot" Intel Core i5 6500 to a cheap prebuilt PC I found online. The dodgy "Lenovo inside an aftermarket case" system featured a dual core i3 6098p, which really struggled in games, but these days even a 6th gen i5 isn't an ideal upgrade.
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Hey the 6500! It was the first CPU I bought with my own hard earned money. Was a nice little upgrade from my i5 2400. Looking forward to this one.
Great upgrade :)
Oh hey im currently using the i5 2400 with a GTX 1050TI and 8gb ddr3 and i cant really complain much. The most intensive game i ever played was Red Dead Redemption 2 in 1080p with everything on low except the textures which i set to high. The benchmark said 30-50 fps and i had so much fun playing it. I feel if i got a high end system i would have a heart attack or something when playing latest titles over 60 fps on high lol.
Please let me know if it's worth it! i'm using i5 2400 currently and thinking of upgrading to i7 3rd gen probably in the future
@@BeatBall i7 4790k would be much better
@@XJustSomerandomGuyX here still 2 systeem wat run .
1x systeem use a e3-1245 (i7 2600)
1x systeem with a i7 2600k
One syteem use a nvidia gtx1050ti the other use a nvidia 750ti ( have a amd r9380x 4Gb but the fan is broken need to be repair)
Both systeem play easy online games what are play for free .
Old but still working so wy replace ?
So long the gpu is the Botlek the cpu will not run 100%
I used this CPU for my first gaming PC build, nice to see you making a video about it, I upgraded to an i5-8600k @5Ghz since then.
This is what happens when NVIDIA don't sample you with a 4090, despite having almost half a million subscribers!
Like, what CPU is good enough for the 4090? There are trolls that pair it with a i7 4790k...
@Zygosepalum you’re not wrong but they did sample a 3080ti and/or 3090ti. But maybe they didn’t this time cause slapping a 4090 into an Athlon 3000g system would be too crazy.
Super high end stuff doesn’t interest me really. You know it’s going to be good.
@@RandomGaminginHD Never been a better time to pull the silly size coolers off and water block high end GPU's. Tame the beast and size all at the same time!
@@takehirolol5962 5800x3d is a struggle at 1440p looking at some games. I'd think Zen 4 vcache (CES 2023) will be the only CPU for a true high end experience!
When I was using an Optiplex before building my own system, I sold its 6700 and bought a 6500T to recoup around half the cost of that entire $200 Dell. I couldn't tell any difference in performance in daily use and the drop down to 30W was nice. Sold that 6500T for another $80 back. Good days during the CPU scalpocalypse.
Lol the 6400t was inside the first hp I used that got me back into pc gaming after being out of it since 2008.
When pubg came out , that 6400t reallllyyyy started to lag behind even the regular i5 6400. The t variant is low voltage so much weaker.
I eventually upgraded to a i3 8350k that I overclocked as much as I could. That i3 was miles faster than the low voltage i5. But 8th Gen is when core count doubled.
Eventually got a 9600k, than a 9700k than I sold the whole system and now have a 5800x.
I gotta say being able to go on Firefox and listen to music while gaming is great. Could never do that with the Intel cpu I used bc the lower core count you'd see a drop in fps.
i got the i7 6700K in my current System, still works like a charm.
planning a long time to upgrade it, but well a lot happened :D the last Years
greetings from Germany, i love your Channel
I paired this CPU with the T600 i was inspired to buy after watching your T600 video during the GPU-pocalypse. With 16GB of RAM and a decent SSD, it is quite nice to play old games in my Steam backlog. Nice video
This was my 1st desktop CPU when I made the jump from Laptop gaming.
Paired it with a 1060 6gb when it came out. Combo served me well for a while!
I'm still using a i5 6600 and going strong, as well as a 1060 6gb but I also don't play triple a games pretty much at all. I even upped to from 1080p@60hz to a 3440x1440@144hz monitor and I still get 60fps on a lot of games I play and 144 on older games
@@celestialsylveon6453 it is very important for people to realize that they don't need to play only new AAA titles. Magic of pc is the backlog of amazing older games with with active servers. Tf2, or L4D2 are great examples.
@@celestialsylveon6453 I have a 3070ti and do play some AAA games, but I'd be lying if I said it was even 15 percent of what I do. 90% of the time I'm playing 10+ year old games.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 Yeah that fact and the sheer amount of cool things you can do and learn with computers is why I got into PC gaming and kinda almost fully left console gaming. It's so nice to have one device that I can update _when I want_ and use _how I want_ without installing homebrew.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 yes tf2 best
Reminds me of why I upgraded my 6600k rig to a 6700k. The hyper threading helped a lot but in the end it was a bottleneck (even for my gtx1080) Moving on to a Ryzen 5600x was a huge improvement.
Had one of these back in 2016, just before Kaby Lake came out. I've been out of the loop with PC hardware that long that I honestly thought that this would have still been fine. It's certainly strange.
A 4c/8t chip is the minimum nowadays I think. A 7700k would still work (I used a Ryzen 3 3100 until recently and only got 100% use + sparse stutter in Spider-Man. Even Cyberpunk at launch ran fine)
Thanks for the benchmarks. I'm still chilling here with my i5 6500 and RX550 2gb.
The i5 6500 was what my rig was built around until just recently. Bought it when Skylake was the shiny new thing.
I used to dream about those Skylike CPUs. Only thing I had was X4 880K and those were something else. Funny how I have used i7 6700 now.
Yay RGHD upload! Hope you had an awesome holiday!
I just aquired a dell 3040sff with a 6500. Parts are all ordered to move it into an Nzxt h510 with 16gigs of ddr3 low power, a 500 watt evga power supply, and an rx5600 xt. I'm just excited to see what this system will do as I was a year and a half ago building my r7 5800 system.
And FTR this is more interesting than 4090 coverage anyway.
how was your experience with this cpu and 5600xt?
Used one of these with a 1050 about 5 years back, and it makes a serviceable 1080p low machine for most games.
I've got a 6500 in my dad's desktop, and for some light gaming and media use, it runs really well for what it is. My first build used a later generation, 7500 cpu before being upgraded to a 7700
I have a HP Elitedesk that came with a i5-6500. I bought an i3-6100 and i7-6700 to do some benchmarks, but not games. Geekbench5 scores ran inside Linux were 990/2045 for the i3, 1028/3405 for the i5, and 1130/3698 for the i7. Not as big of a jump as I would have thought. I'm planning on running pfsense on this machine, and am hoping to do a small video on that soon, especially since I've been running the i7 without a fan on the heatsink for about a week now.
Still have my i5 6600, still a decent CPU.
You don’t have a k version? What do you run with it??!
I set out to build two budget gaming PCs for under $500, total.
I bought two SFF HP office PCs a few months back with this exact CPU, added an extra stick of RAM (2x8 total each), a 256gb SATA SSD (Samsung 850 or 860?), a Saphire low profile RX 6400 to each. I then gifted them to two friends who didn't have PCs-- other than old dual core laptops. The combined cost for all the above was just under $450 after tax and shipping.
They both get very solid 30-45 FPS in many modern titles, at least at 1080p Low and some Medium settings. That's without trying FSR, as I forgot it existed!
Strange yours crashed with Elden Ring. On those two systems, Elden Ring had acceptably smooth framerate around 40fps at 1080p Low when I tested it, no crashes in the ~30 minutes it took my friend to beat the intial area Tree Sentinel on a new character.
My other friend maxes out Sea of Thieves now at upper mid settings at 1080p with a 60fps lock. That's such a beautifully optimized game I've discovered fairly late, we enjoy playing together now.
These definitely aren't upgrades for the mainstream gamer, but for newer and lower budget gamers, and those coming from PS4 level graphics, they are a solid start to the hobby. They cost less than used PS4s in my area, or used (working) gaming laptops, and any working OEM prebuilts I've come across with dedicated graphics. Plus that RX 6400 is waaay better than the 2GB GPUs in those same prebuilts, most weaker than 1030's.
The two Saphire 6400's I bought sipped 45 watts at most, total system power was 114 for the smaller SFF, and 119w for the larger, GPU and CPU maxed out. My main concern was cooling in those cases, but they were generally under 75C for the CPUs at max, 80C for the GPUs. Acceptable, if not ideal. Improved by a solid 5+ degrees once I removed the extra rear IO bracket shields from both. Good enough, especially for having a single exhaust fan each!
Very nice! I enjoy reading about budget builds others have done.
My first pc chip on a buget back when it came out finally upgraded to the i7 9700k which was amazing upgrade still holding on with new chips even
i sold a gaming computer the other month that had one of these processors. i used it to test some graphic cards, but with a gtx 760 & 960 i had at the time it did really well in a lot of games from this year(game pass), not amazing, but still was a very capable system. if you dont have high expectations these older processors and older hardware for that matter are still very useful and viable in a gaming system.
6600k with radeon 460 could handle f1 2019, dota and world of warcraft for years to me.
Wow, very informative. Can you make a comparison of this cpu against a modern 6 core like the Ryzen 3600/5600 or the i5-12400/11400? it would be interesting to see how much improvement can be expected. I'm still running this cpu and would like to know what to expect if I did upgrade.
I had a similar problem, although I do think my results were down to inefficient cooling more than anything.
I have an itx build I done for my 7 year old daughter so she can enjoy Lego Worlds - her fave game - it is currently equipped with an I5 3550 (it's 3rd gen obviously can't remember if that's the exact model) and had it with a 1050ti. Nice little combo.
After being able to grab a 3070ti when things calmed down a bit, I slapped my substitute 1070ti I got in my recent build into my daughter's PC. Yes it is heavily bottlenecked by the CPU.
I managed to grab a cheap I7 3770, thinking that may help matters (and it probably would in any normal build) but instead my quiet itx build sounded like a vacuum cleaner, the CPU hit high temps causing thermal throttling and overall performance gain, just wasn't worth it. Think I worked out a 5% gain.
Back to the I5 my daughter obviously doesn't care, but I was thinking might be good to play some older games on that as the overall power consumption is a lot lower than my I9 rig, but never mind. Still a nice 1080p machine.
I have had this processor for 7 years and I'm blessed for the performance its given me. If I could go back and buy it again, I would.
This is actually my current gaming setup! Nice to see it get some attention.
Oh wow, I remember replacing my 1366 pc with a Kaby Lake PC. I built mine with that famous g4600, the older brother to the g4560 and it still worked great.
Now that would be a video though. Do a 1050 TI/RX 570 g4560 pc because that used to be such a common build quite a few years ago
I still have this CPU since 2015, its good enough, but definitely has seen better days! I remember back in 2015 I was able to squeeze by with even just a Core 2 quad, now my i5-6500 feels the same haha
Got the i5 6500 cpu aswell :), planning to upgrade pc soon
I'm ngl your results seem a little strange. I've used an i5 6400 recently, specifically with Elden Ring. With a GTX 1050 2GB and 12GB DDR4 2133 I was able to hit a pretty playable 42 FPS average on low settings 1080p without any of the crashing or major stuttering issues you were experiencing. Perhaps something was funky with the Lenovo motherboard, that was choking the performance?
Also feel the same, I am using an i5 4460 with an RX 470 and DDR3 1600 mhz, and got quite better results, even on CP 2077 with medium settings and crowd density, 0.1% lows never drop below 25, for sure it is the Nvidia ampere driver overhead together with the oberhead from MSI afterburner frametime graph.
Probably graphics settings. In Horizon 4 (not 5 in the video) specific settings increase CPU load. Most games should have such settings, and they are related to level of detail/draw distance.
In Horizon 4 these settings even seem to reduce slight stuttering on a 11th gen i7...
awesome explanation bro... good job
I wonder if it would be possible to modify the bios of this board using the coffee time tool to add 8th/9th gen support. You could then throw an 8100 or 9100 in it. You’d probably need a EEPROM reader to get it directly from the bios chip and read back to it.
I believe you could still only use a quad core as the 6 core and higher have a different pin layout, but could be wrong in that or a tape mod might work.
You're right, 6-core desktop 8- and 9-Gen CPUs have slightly different pinout. But you can get around that by isolating and shorting some of the pins. This topic is pretty well documented, but i'm not sure about OEM board like HP, Lenovo and Dell.
Also laptop chips from Aliexpress are already modified for 100 and 200 series boards.
The prebuilt I use daily has a 6500 and it works perfectly in 2023 with the one caveat being I'm playing through my backlog of older games that aren't as demanding as anything from today. I still use 8gb of ram as well although I've been trying to scrounge the local used market to rustle up something that will run Hogwarts Legacy at 1080p with decent graphics. The more new GPUs they announce the more affordable the used market becomes.
what gpu you using with it? just got my hands on a system without a gpu glad to know it can still do something
With my 1070 after the jump from i5 6600 non K to an i5 10600k all of a sudden all the framepacing issues, stutter and slowness dissapeared in all titles, even the ones with a mostly 60 fps like Escape From Tarkov. the 4 core 4 thread no hyperthreading really hampers the cpu in modern games and DX12 dependent games like BF 1, best thing I did was upgrade my CPU (now I will keep it for 5 or so years :)
I had a Z170 board with a 6600k in around 2016 but I was struggling with the CPU maxing out even back then, saw the writing was on the wall for 4C/4T so I sold all that on for an X58 board with a W3690 + 24GB RAM and the difference in performance blew me away considering how much older the platform is
I still own and use a 6700k strapped to a HP SFF motherboard in a custom case. Paired with a gtx1660super, it still works stunningly well at 1080p even latest AAA titles. That thing works so well I just can’t get rid of it. You should review the 6700k !!
That was my first cpu
The 6700k is still pretty great. Is there any game it cannot touch 60fps in now though?
Good "bang for the buck" builds are always appreciated.
I upgraded to the 6400 i5 from using an old core 2 duo 8500. It is a definite step up from the core 2 rig I was using.
In Lithuania you can buy used i5 7400 for 60 euro, i am using 7400 + 1060 3gb since 2017 and everything works fine. I am gonna use it for 3-4 more years
Nice :)
I had this processor a while ago! It worked well for me for years but I’m rocking a 2600x now…about time to upgrade again I’m thinking!
And here's me who was playing cyberpunk with a 3570 up until two weeks ago lol. Pretty crazy how you were getting a similar fps to what I was though considering the 6500 is way newer. Older cpus really hate this game.
Nice, this decent video for an old system. I'm going to buy Lenovo m910s (comes with i5 gen 6/7) pairing with RTX2060. But seems like the CPU bottlenecking the GPU, wonder in higher resolution, but your video told everything.
I have this exact i5 6500 overclocked to 4GHz, still holds up pretty well for 60fps gaming pared with a gtx 1070. Though I might upgrade to something like a i7 6700k if I find one for less than 50€
Yeah that would be a good route to go down :)
Good luck on that one. Your motherboard should also support 7th gen, so maybe look for a 7700K for maximum gains (should give you Ryzen 3300X performance)
I didn't find decent prices in my country for those CPUs, so yesterday I finally ditched my 6500 for a Ryzen 5600
@@thelegendaryklobb2879 yeah luck is definitely what i need, they usually go for 90€ on ebay lol. The 7700k just isn't worth it, much more expensive for a very small gain in performance
That was my previous cpu, it's chilling in my SO PC with a 1030. She's not playing anything hectic. I moved to a R5 1600 with 1060. It gets the job done. Always good to see some love for the older hardware.
I chose the 6500 because of that 400MHz higher base over the 6400. Was marginally more expensive. So glad I didn't go for the i3 back then.
My friend is probably going to be buying a 6500. Thanks for the informational video
Definitely hard to recommend the 4 cores now, I recently build an i5-6600k pc and overclocked it to 4.4ghz and even through I only had it with a gtx 980 and advertised it with the option of upgrading it to a gtx 980ti, I would recommend much more than that with the 4 core i5's.
Great video, love your work.
I've noticed that all the pure quadcore cpu's (I5 2400, I5 3330 and Ryzen 3 1200) I have basically spend a lot of time at 100%. Hyperthreading or SMT gives a quadcore just a bit more breathingroom.
at least with your 1200 you can easily amend that with a 1600 or 2600 for like £50
or go nuts if you got a decent enough mobo to possibly go all the way to 5950X.
Yep, i struggle in GTA Online for example with an I5 2500k at 4.5 ghz 4x4 gb ram & a 1660 super here if i want too do anything in the steam overlay or if i get a message here on steam, as i need too run epic games launcher at the same time im sitting at around mid 40's in fps in a populated lobby & even in a solo session i drop below my 83 fps cap pretty easily.
HyperThreading is very important these days my i7 6700k 4,6 GHz OC would outperform this by a lot... i7 6700k is almost similar to i3 10100f, with OC is mby slightly better
Well I had the same experience when I upgraded my GPU from an AMD RX 470 to a 6600XT a few month ago.. bought an i5 12400 and a new mainboard a week later :D
I just did this same kind of upgrade for my son's pc. Went from i3 6100 to the 6600. MUCH better framerates now in games. He's able to do 1080p60 now with his gtx 1650Super
Workstation desktop or a custom build with custom MB??
funny enough im building a game rig for my daughter and this is the chip i have. was either this or a ddr3 quad channel i7 workstation. but i wanted simplicity and eficiency over raw power as i know she will be on it most of time. mainly counter strike and gmod paired with a 1050 so your video was useful. Thanks!
Sounds like my upgrade, had an 6700k i7 and upgraded with not so cheap to a 7700k i7 and got 5% speed bumb :)
id love to see you upgrade it with the best cpu from the same time this chip was made
Great video but did you let the Tree Surgeon perform the operation? You can leave me hanging….
My quad core i5 6600K is still going strong, thinking of getting a cheap 6700K to upgrade.
I had a 6600k with stock settings, I bought it because back in early 2017 that was the best for the price and Ryzen was too infant, but it didn't held well like 2nd or 3rd gen Intel, it ran Bf1 Ok and it felt like it was past the pushing point on BFV.
I'm skeptical with my 10600k now, I hope those 6 cores will hold better.
You could BCLK overclock Skylake CPUs on Z170 boards. I was running 6500 at 4,6GHz on the cheapest Z170 board I could find for more than 6 years. Insane value at the time. And still makes a very balanced system with GTX 1060.
I recently replaced it with 9600KF, since, with some mods, it is possible to run Coffee Lake CPUs on Z170 boards.
I had this CPU 1-2 years ago and it was still fine imo, I did not notice a big increment in speed when I got an i5-11400f.
You should have. Unless your GPU is the bottleneck, you should be seeing a massive improvement.
@@chase7974 I had a GTX 1070.
your aim is getting good :D
Would love to see the i5-7500 comp, i would expect 5 to 10% overall improvement on the 3060ti
7500 is so much better
cool thing aboutt his socket, is that it can fit ciustomized coffeelake laptop chips.
I got one of these new, and still use it every day. I see no reason to upgrade when it works so well for what I do. Great CPU.
it was a perfect match with a r9 380 4gb and served me 5 years. sold them and kept the motherboard (z170a, yeah futureproof :) ) and bought i7 6700k and rx 6600. I'm super happy because this upgrade cost me like 250 bucks net on this april when the gpu prices still very expensive. Good thing is, I sold 6500 and r9 380 for 200 bucks which is crazy imho.
I bought my pc back in 2016 with this cpu and I'm still using it today! It, along with my 1060 3gb plays all the games I want to play with no problems. BTW my pc was featured in RYGR January 2020 :)
I never knew that there was a i3-6098p cpu, i would gladly buy it from you.
Yeah, the old quad core i5's are pretty much at their EOL in modern games. I plan on finally upgrading my i5-7600k system for either an R7 7700 or 7900 (non-X) or a newer Intel cpu.
I upgraded from an i3 6100 to this cpu back in 2019 and ran it for 2 years with a 1060 6gb. Served me well before I finally took the plunge and got a 5700x and 3070.
good morning Thank you very much for the excellent video I have a kind request for your opinion I have a Dell tiny with an Intel Core i5-6500T
What could be a compatible CPU that gives a certain improvement ?
Went from this i5 and 1070 to I9 9900KF with 3080 (10gb)
was such bottlenecked beast that i loved.
Now it functions as 60fps budget gaming pc for my dad :D
Awesome :)
I'm about to retire my good i5 6500, ran it for 8 years, doing gaming, photoshop / illustrator and other things, replacement sitting on my table right now. It was a good soldier, if you kept it focused on a single task it was amazing.
I'll give it some fresh thermal paste before trying to sell it with the mobo, 8gb ram and a 120gb sata SSD with a fresh install of Win10 on it. What do you reckon would be a fair price to ask for all that ?
Ooof, My brother's PC has a i5 6500 + 1060 6gb combo and he's enjoying Cyberpunk with a mixture of medium and high settings and most other games, He's planning for a i5 12400 upgrade but gotta get the dough first.
I had a system with an I5-6402p. The 4 cores and no threading is what hurts it. A 4 core 8 thread i7-6700 (also 65 watts) CPU is what I would have gone for. Though they are a few quid more used. I think the extra threads would really help modern games.
Surprised Elden Ring struggled so badly, it works pretty well on my friend's PC with an i5-7600 which is also a four core, no HT chip. It is faster than the 6500 but only by a little.
Ah, My first CPU for my first build. This along with an r9 380x served me well as a first build.
I have a 6600K with a ASUS Sabertooth Z170 MK1 if you're interested, it's been well used as a gaming/editing rig
Had a i5 6500 but with much slower ram. Was power and size limited as it was a sff Dell. Tried some cards that were supposed to work like a GTX 1650 and it was a disaster. Ended up using it to give my mom a better computer.
How much of a disaster was it?
Would be very interesting to see how far back you'd have to go to match this with a hyper-threaded chip. Would an i7-2600k match it? Or a 3770? Or have cores become such a priority for developers these days that any 4c/8t chip will beat any >5 year old 4c/4t one?
2600 non K. 2600K still outperform this i5 6500.
Nowadays with $100 you can easily buy Core i7 4790K along with its Motherboard and 16GB RAM Which was the first end users CPUs line up that supports AVX2. And still serve way higher FPS than this video.
Funny you should talk about the 6600K Skylake. I have one in my old system with some Corsair 3200 DDR4 running at 4.6ghz on a MSI Z170a and after I sold my 5700XT I put my 3080 FE in it for a while. It runs most modern games I've tried (at 4k) other than MS Flight Simulator almost as well as my Ryzen 9 5900x.
That’s awesome, I can imagine the overclocked k version is way better than this
I got one of these free from a disemboweled optiplex from school, this was the only part they didn’t pick out before throwing it away
What a deal! :)
Gosh, I really wanted one of these(i5 6400) when skylake was new back in 2015/16. Actually pretty glad I didnt buy one of these, like damn didnt think the perfomance would be that bad. Its a midranger from 7 years ago not 70.
What Do you expect? even the i3 12100 can outperform i5 10400 and is like 2-year difference, Newer Apps will need more computing power also Hardware is constantly improving.
Thanks to Ryzen.
Without Ryzen, intel would be more than happy to sell you 2 core i3, and 4 cores i5 forever. With mere 5% to 11% performance uplift for every 18 months.
@@lost4356 Havent been that much into hardware lately and didnt know that an 4core no ht processor is obsolete nowadays. Grew up in the lazy intel days when they had no competition thanks to fx. Hope my r5 2600 stays relevant for a bit longer than that. But my little Zen+ ryzen will eventually be obsolete because of the bad ipc and not the lack of cores.
Since you mentioned it yourself near the end of the video, it would be interesting to see how a 6th gen i7 holds up compared to this 6th gen i5.
Upgraded my 6500 to a 7700 and it made a pretty much night and day difference. Games went from about 50ish FPS with major stuttering to about 80ish with less stuttering, 100% usage to about 70%. 2400MT/s RAM support might be helping a little bit as well.
@randomgaminginhd can you please do a comparison between this cpu and amd fx 8000 series? I'm curious to see if amd fx now is more suitable for modern gaming instead of the 4-cores i5...
Still running one of these and an I5 6600K in the other computer. They work.
Really need the i7-6700 but I doubt if that would make full use of a a 3060 RTX either, 1660 Super or Ti would be more suitable.
Rtx 2060 or a rtx3050 wil be the max i think .
Hi dear friend, i found a cheap itx bundle with this i5 6500t and a beautiful pro gaming aurora MB. I want to keep it cause it is beautiful, would you say that the rx 580 is a good option for this CPU? should i aim for a better option than rx 580?
greetings, nice and very good video.
Would be great if you try the I7 on that board. Greetings
I've got an i5 6402p and it runs better in all instances than what you showed in the video except RDR2 where it's the same. I limit all my games to 60 fps and yeah, it doesnt exactly keep it constantly, but forza, cyberpunk and spider-man have way less stutters for me than what you got in the video and the average is a bit higher. When I installed windows 2 months ago I ran a debloat script with the things I didn't need. You should give it a try on older systems, maybe that's the problem. Also, my ram config is 4x4gb 2133mhz. I did buy a 2x8gb 3200mhz last year, but performance was exactly the same, so I returned it. CPU is still a champ.
I was thinking the same thing, I’ve got a Xeon e3 1245v3 which is basically an i7 4790 so it’s a 4c 8t chip and it is capable of well above 60 fps in a lot of these games. It’s not stuttery either. I’m even running it on a Lenovo m83 motherboard with a similar 12 to 24 pin power adapter. Just some strange results but maybe cause it’s not got hyperthreading? Idk
I have a i5 6500 and elden ring get near constant 60 and no stutters
The 6500 was my first cpu I bought with my first paycheck when I moved to the UK. It struggled always. I'm glad I upgraded to a 6700 later when elden ring came out and I had no issue ever since
I had ordered 6500 last weekend for my coding work and lightweight gaming.. 😐
I agree, I still have that processor paired with a RTX 3060 TI and it's a nightmare.
I'll upgrade to 12th or 13th gen this year though.
Well obviously
This CPU can pair maximum with a 1060 6gb or 1660 ti and that's it
i use this CPU! it works quite well in regular browser surfing and can run videos in 1440p60 and can kinda game
If I were to build a dirt cheap PC for 1080p low to medium settings in non-AAA games, I wonder what would be better an i5 6th/7th gen or i7 2nd/3rd gen.
I know you have covered old i7s multiple times but really curious to see direct comparisons.
More cores and lower max speed than high max speed and less cores.
Today more and more games use more cores.
You can see that of a games is only DirectX 12 support.
Thare are stil hybride games with DirectX 11 and 12 options.
But all those game use the singel core more than the rest .
My H110m-e from Asus supports up to 2400mhz. Not much higher, but sufficient for Skylake and KabyLake. I have a 7600x in mine right now. I got the board for $35 back in 2016.
I wouldn't be surprised if your best bet at a budget gaming processor for this board was some old Xeon 4 core hyperthreaded processor from Ebay.
I still have some old computers using ivy bridge. My sister games on an i5 3570k. There are modern processors with more cores and well, she'll get one at some point. But with a 1660 super I don't think it's incredibly necessary for her yet.
Now this is all a lead in to my question. Is there any meaningful difference between the i5 3570k and any of the other quad core processors that came after? Like until the core counts increased it doesn't seem that there was really ever any huge increase in processing power. Only marginal percentage differences.
RGHD do u have issues with forza breaking itself when u change video settings
I have a 6600k and can overclock it to 4.6ghz. I would love to get a 6700k, to keep me going another year or 2. But I can't find a good price to make it worth getting.
I don't doubt it if it's a similar situation with Mafia: Definitive Edition. On a Ryzen 3 2200G, it stutters and grinds down in denser areas when there's so much geometry and logic going on, but less crowded districts such as in the countryside are less of a pain for the CPU to handle.
The nice thing is that a 2200g has real upgrade paths and these old Intel chips generally don't. A 6c12t Ryzen can be had for 100-150$ with serious performance gains over a 2200g.
With that high CPU utilazition in RDR2 I´ve gotta ask, did you activate shadercache in the nVidia driver? Usually it´s disabled by default and I´m asking since my i5 7400 only gets to 100% when I enter a new area and all the stuff has to be loaded in, otherwise it´s between 40-80%.
I'm using the default NVIDIA drivers but there is no way to getting away from CPU Bottlenecks when you passing through the Saint Denis or Blackwater because those places are really CPU demanding and 4C/4T killer ofc... Painful thing is it's happening even the game's running on VULKAN.
@@Augmented_Realism I know what you mean, Saint Denis and some cut szences (like the boat szene to Guama) really try strangling a 4C/4T CPU to death. I´ve experienced it on VULKAN, but since I swap the GTX770 for an R9 280X I´m using DX12 in order to use high textures on 1080p without the game crashing. VULKAN has some weird VRAM management so even I´m under my VRAM limit according to afterburner the game crashes because running out of VRAM, doesn´t happen on DX12 and the game looks so much better than 720p upscaled.
I have expected better results then this with the i5-6500. :'D
I've had a 6700 for a while ago and it's really a big difference with these 4 extra threads.
The extra threads really do help.
A couple of friends just recently upgraded from i5s 6600K and 7400. Great chips that worked fine for many years but it's stutter city with modern titles due to the lack of HT in them.
Yeah still got my 7500, im waiting zen 5 all the way, jump to am5; pcie 5.0, ddr5 and if posible the x3D version. It seems the best option for me.
@@PinguinoPocho if you want my advice, get at least a B650 with the cheapest Ryzen 7XXX you can find, then later upgrade. The socket will last for at least 3 generations so then you'd need only a new CPU (and more RAM depending). That's what I'd do (and did in AM4. First B450 + 8gb + R3 3100, then 16gb, then 32gb and R5 5600. Currently debating between an X3D or waiting for a platform upgrade altogether)
@@GerardinhoLP I appreciate the feedback but i can hold 6 months more and make a better optimization on my system. I did my research with time. We are almost at the end of the trail on ddr4 memories. I know the first true am5 socket will need alot or refinement the first years but for now it seems the best path, but yeah will be alot of money.
The low performance may be because the processor is limited to 35W. I didn't see the power draw go above 40W in any of the benchmarks.
A lot of OEM motherboards designed for very small towers or slim systems will limit power draw to 35W.
Ah could be right there.
I had that cpu back in 2017 and I remember I've used xmp with hyper x predator ddr4 at 2400 and I've used some FSB values overclock with a unlocked beta bios on z170 pro gaming not the fastest cpu but it was low powered chip even though 4 cores without hyperthreading is not enough anymore it's a decent chip for basic low spec maybe a retro gaming but whatever.