When I was a kid, I looked up to adults, wanting to grow up and be like them, smart and wise, but when I became an adult, I came to a shocking realization that most adults around me were just old children.
Well said! Religions come with preconceived notions of God. There's only one Creator, so all notions of God are bound to contain erroneous beliefs. It's worse since it's known that the universe is not just limited to our earth. Since humans are ignorant of what's out there, their perceptions of God is bound to be totally wrong!
Yes. It is shocking. Even your college professors. 😳🤦♀️🤷♀️ I made a few scientific arguments for the idea in another video in this series and no one else seems to be making them. I actually wrote a book about these things but no one seems to want to read it because it’s like 400 pages and I left graduate school in behavioral neuroscience and evolutionary psychology to write it and it’s dense.... so here it is in a nutshell -the absolute best and irrefutable arguments for god, and it even encompasses aliens-if they exist-and all human religions ALL religions. I think it will be quite helpful: You have to let go of past arguments, in order to see how a god concept is actually a real and predictive theory of the Universe which no other theory can even come close in explanatory and predictive power. You have to understand the paradoxical in the functions of the brain, and understand human and animal epistemology. It’s quite easy to see where god came from and how humans are models of god. All “theories of everything” are laughable if they do not consider brains and the arts along with physics. They have to consider all forms of information. Not just one aspect or another which allows a certain ignorance so that you can say “then a miracle happens” after you discover a Higgs Boson, for example. So if you really want to predict everything then you will be interested in a real theory of actually everything. There are scientific theories of god and to me, in its overall epistemological ideals, science itself is the greatest religion of all. It searches for the eternal in the fleeting. Instead of “Thor” we see electricity now. We see more meaning and more power as we unify these eternal principles. We can be more creative as we do so. Eternal Creative power Meaning -sounds like moving toward god to me. 😊 And it is. That’s why I wrote “The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God” 🥰🤷♀️ I have never seen anyone else provide a theory which even comes close to all I have predicted and explained with this theory. Makes the theory of evolution look like a tinkertoy. All these people who say there isn’t a god are making a “straw man” argument fallacy. They use antiquated ideas of god instead of looking at the direction and epistemology of the entire body of human inquiry. They make fun of our ancestors ideas instead of modernizing them logically-as we did with mystical alchemy which became modern chemistry or Pythagorean mysticism becoming modern geometry. This is absolutely no different. They may not have fully understood what they were talking about and projected the known human attributes onto the idea, but that doesn’t mean that the idea wasn’t a distillation of something real at its core. Once you understand how the universe is constructed as a teaching machine from beyond time then it will be perfectly clear. Meaning is the key. The reason not everyone saw the meaning in feelings of disgust that something invisible “infected” something rotting, is why we did not have a germ theory of disease and why we ridiculed people who advocated it at one time. People who gather knowledge only for their own purposes and lives now tend to want to pontificate on life in general but what they are really doing is projecting their own rationalizations unaware onto reality. A process ironically that led people like me to come up with processes like science to try to get past their deadly self-motivated ignorance that they cling to like a drowning man to a timber in a hurricane. So yeah, the people who are now arguing against god are grasping onto science and using it in self-serving ways to maintain the my-life’s-purpose-rationale, a sort of paving over all blind spots with any spackle that works, so that they can get away with as little thinking as possible. Logically there is no other way that reality and brains can exist, that the actual language of reality could exist, without an eternal center of meaning and creative coherence which our ancestors called god. Everything in the known universe is a set of interlocking symbols. Including you. It constitutes a book which can only be read one way once you understand the symbols and what they actually mean. There is a unified meaning behind all things. Just as there was a unified meaning behind physical phenomena in general which led to our ability with math, science, and symbols in general. So behind all of these things is a larger creative unity of ultimate meaning and selective power. What you see arrayed before you as “Universe” is obviously a teaching machine. An information instrument panel not unlike a human brain.
@@jeancorriveau8686 You definitely made a good argument-which is way more than most do. Here is some additional information you may find helpful. I made these comments on one of the other videos about atheism in this series: You have to let go of past arguments, in order to see how a god concept is actually a real and predictive theory of the Universe which no other theory can even come close in explanatory and predictive power. You have to understand the paradoxical in the functions of the brain, and understand human and animal epistemology. It’s quite easy to see where god came from and how humans are models of god. All “theories of everything” are laughable if they do not consider brains and the arts along with physics. They have to consider all forms of information. Not just one aspect or another which allows a certain ignorance so that you can say “then a miracle happens” after you discover a Higgs Boson, for example. So if you really want to predict everything then you will be interested in a real theory of actually everything. There are scientific theories of god and to me, in its overall epistemological ideals, science itself is the greatest religion of all. It searches for the eternal in the fleeting. Instead of “Thor” we see electricity now. We see more meaning and more power as we unify these eternal principles. We can be more creative as we do so. Eternal Creative power Meaning -sounds like moving toward god to me. 😊 And it is. That’s why I wrote “The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God” 🥰🤷♀️ I have never seen anyone else provide a theory which even comes close to all I have predicted and explained with this theory. Makes the theory of evolution look like a tinkertoy. All these people who say there isn’t a god are making a “straw man” argument fallacy. They use antiquated ideas of god instead of looking at the direction and epistemology of the entire body of human inquiry. They make fun of our ancestors ideas instead of modernizing them logically-as we did with mystical alchemy which became modern chemistry or Pythagorean mysticism becoming modern geometry. This is absolutely no different. They may not have fully understood what they were talking about and projected the known human attributes onto the idea, but that doesn’t mean that the idea wasn’t a distillation of something real at its core. Once you understand how the universe is constructed as a teaching machine from beyond time then it will be perfectly clear. Meaning is the key. The reason not everyone saw the meaning in feelings of disgust that something invisible “infected” something rotting, is why we did not have a germ theory of disease and why we ridiculed people who advocated it at one time. People who gather knowledge only for their own purposes and lives now tend to want to pontificate on life in general but what they are really doing is projecting their own rationalizations unaware onto reality. A process ironically that led people like me to come up with processes like science to try to get past their deadly self-motivated ignorance that they cling to like a drowning man to a timber in a hurricane. So yeah, the people who are now arguing against god are grasping onto science and using it in self-serving ways to maintain the my-life’s-purpose-rationale, a sort of paving over all blind spots with any spackle that works, so that they can get away with as little thinking as possible. Logically there is no other way that reality and brains can exist, that the actual language of reality could exist, without an eternal center of meaning and creative coherence which our ancestors called god. Everything in the known universe is a set of interlocking symbols. Including you. It constitutes a book which can only be read one way once you understand the symbols and what they actually mean. There is a unified meaning behind all things. Just as there was a unified meaning behind physical phenomena in general which led to our ability with math, science, and symbols in general. So behind all of these things is a larger creative unity of ultimate meaning and selective power. What you see arrayed before you as “Universe” is obviously a teaching machine. An information instrument panel not unlike a human brain.
@@spiralsun1 Interesting, there is progress in time. But I would say this does not make the past obsolete. While mysticism from pythagoras is gone, platonic mathematics has if anything made a return after Godel and Frege. God as a conception may become more clearer with newer information, but I don't think this makes the past ideas of the earlier Church fathers (for example) any less valid. Just conceptualized in a different way. Science is nice, but contrary to its dogmatic materialistic believers, its ultimately rested on mathematical truths. And math itself has always been open to mysticism as much as any natural science.
It is like having a great mountain rising out of the plains. Well, everywhere you look at the mountain, it looks slightly different, depending on where you are looking. If you are up close, if you are far away, if you are to the north, the south, the east or the west-it all looks different, you see. But it is the same mountain. It has not changed with your perspective. You may debate with others about the appearance of the mountain. You are looking from the north and they are looking from the south. Oh, the mountain looks so very different. You argue about its features and its manifestations. To someone up close, it is huge and monumental. To someone at a distance, it is just something out on the horizon. The experience is different. The perspectives are different. But the mountain has not changed. It has not adapted itself to people’s perspective or people’s position around it. ~Marshall Vian Summers
@USA TAMONDOMUNI Nah, the brain is becoming a coherence detector and we're having trouble articulating; simple as that. ... Oh, and maybe Truth is a person, given what we know about "persons".
Iam not an atheist but i have a reservation that god does not exist actually it is only a product of imagination.People have percieved god to be perfect and all the superlative attrubutes. Giving such a characteristic even not having a personal encounternif god is simewhat problematic because you have no physical knowledge of god.
@@grande6075 "People have percieved god to be perfect and all the superlative attrubutes" ---- This reflects a later protestant perspective. It is not the view of classical theology. Peace be with you.
When Einstein gave lectures at U.S. universities, the recurring question that students asked him most was: - Do you believe in God? And he always answered: - I believe in the God of Spinoza. Baruch de Spinoza was a Dutch philosopher considered one of the great rationalists of 17th century philosophy, along with Descartes. (Spinoza) : God would say: Stop praying. What I want you to do is go out into the world and enjoy your life. I want you to sing, have fun and enjoy everything I've made for you. Stop going into those dark, cold temples that you built yourself and saying they are my house. My house is in the mountains, in the woods, rivers, lakes, beaches. That's where I live and there I express my love for you. Stop blaming me for your miserable life; I never told you there was anything wrong with you or that you were a sinner, or that your sexuality was a bad thing. Sex is a gift I have given you and with which you can express your love, your ecstasy, your joy. So don't blame me for everything they made you believe. Stop reading alleged sacred scriptures that have nothing to do with me. If you can't read me in a sunrise, in a landscape, in the look of your friends, in your son's eyes... ➤ you will find me in no book! Stop asking me "will you tell me how to do my job?" Stop being so scared of me. I do not judge you or criticize you, nor get angry, or bothered. I am pure love. Stop asking for forgiveness, there's nothing to forgive. If I made you... I filled you with passions, limitations, pleasures, feelings, needs, inconsistencies... free will. How can I blame you if you respond to something I put in you? How can I punish you for being the way you are, if I'm the one who made you? Do you think I could create a place to burn all my children who behave badly for the rest of eternity? What kind of god would do that? Respect your peers and don't do what you don't want for yourself. All I ask is that you pay attention in your life, that alertness is your guide. My beloved, this life is not a test, not a step on the way, not a rehearsal, nor a prelude to paradise. This life is the only thing here and now and it is all you need. I have set you absolutely free, no prizes or punishments, no sins or virtues, no one carries a marker, no one keeps a record. You are absolutely free to create in your life. Heaven or hell. ➤ I can't tell you if there's anything after this life but I can give you a tip. Live as if there is not. As if this is your only chance to enjoy, to love, to exist. So, if there's nothing after, then you will have enjoyed the opportunity I gave you. And if there is, rest assured that I won't ask if you behaved right or wrong, I'll ask. Did you like it? Did you have fun? What did you enjoy the most? What did you learn?... Stop believing in me; believing is assuming, guessing, imagining. I don't want you to believe in me, I want you to believe in you. I want you to feel me in you when you kiss your beloved, when you tuck in your little girl, when you caress your dog, when you bathe in the sea. Stop praising me, what kind of egomaniac God do you think I am? I'm bored being praised. I'm tired of being thanked. Feeling grateful? Prove it by taking care of yourself, your health, your relationships, the world. Express your joy! That's the way to praise me. Stop complicating things and repeating as a parakeet what you've been taught about me. What do you need more miracles for? So many explanations? The only thing for sure is that you are here, that you are alive, that this world is full of wonders. - Spinoza
I'm wondering what Mr. Spinoza would say after the "mania" stops, like say, just before bedtime. Or 'after' a grand meal, or just after the orgasm. In any case just like you, I assume I understand Mr. Spinoza. But Mr. Spinoza doesn't understand me!, or explain the existence of diametrically opposite other 'suffering' lot.
@@JoseArias-fn5pf cherry picking exists in every form of belief and non-belief. we ultimately choose what to believe, sometimes out of convenience, ego etc.
That goes for the interviewer too. I have never seen a slimier representation of an unbiased truth seeker than the Atheist Kuhn. I'd like to see him knock on a few scientist's doors once in a while instead of repeatedly making light of people's faith. You know, the science that says you can identify as a woman if you are a man, can kill a child outside the womb or play with disinformation on pandemics. Oh, and also the convenient development of multiple universes and string theory - a theory that requires 500 dimensions to operate.
@@Emilnananaxo belief is not chosen. You are either convinced, or not convinced. I cannot just go and choose to believe the sky is green, because no matter what I am NOT convinced of that.
Hi. I’ve been watching your shows for some time. They are great. Each episode teaches so much and opens the mind to different perceptions to a seeker. Only thing is whoever is doing the sound is not doing their job right. When you are having your monologues between the dialogues, the sound is double, so you have to take the volume up and down. In every show.
God is a spirit being, so I’m afraid us physical beings or anything derived from atoms are just out of luck when it comes to comprehending him in a mental way. We have to come to understand him spiritually by thinking spiritually only I’m afraid Robert. 🫤
I'm amazed at my own ability to come up with completely different answers to these questions depending on the day of the week or the hour of the day. I'm also amazed at how long asking these same questions has gotten me absolutely No Closer To Truth.
When I was born, I was told what is GOD, life and so on. So, that's all leads up to believes made up by people. Life is about new experiences and knowledge. Ideas leads to emotions and beliefs.
I love the searchers-those folks who keep looking under every stone and asking questions. I am less comfortable with those who think they have the answers or who have pinned down ultimate reality somehow.
God is truth=truth is god. God has no physical form. God is spirit. If you want to see god use your spirit not your eyes. Your mind is your spirit. If you can see the truth you see god. Whenever you speak of the truth, you follow god.
@@czarcrisostomo9990 But when god is completely non physical then this would make him a lesser being. Only when he is the totality of all existence only then he can be the largest and most complex entity which exists. Every non physical being would just be a part of the totality of everything and therefore a lesser being.
@@plantae420I'd have to disagree that a non physical being would be lesser. Having a physical form has lots of disadvantages. We get injured, sick, we age, we die. A non physical being wouldn't necessarily be subject to these things, and therefore, would they not be greater?
One definition of God is: Consciousness, Existence, Bliss. We share in the first two, the third is something we have to work on. What does it take? Maybe surrender to reality, a faith that will be lead to the ultimate goal: liberation which would be Consciousness, Existence, and Bliss. Some Saints seem to have achieved it to the extent that no matter what horrors they are put through their peace of mind is not lost.
A logical positivist or linguistic philosopher would also ask 'what do we mean by ''real'' or ''reality'' before asking the questions about God that Robert Kuhn asks his philosophers. Kuhn wants to know what is real without asking what 'real' means. Doesn't this defeat the purpose of his metaphysical questions?
It is amazing to me how people of faith always talk about the same thing in totally different terms. To me--in and of itself--that is some proof that they are all just professional, polished, bullshit artists. If everyone has a completely different conception of what a thing is, then that thing is probably not an actual thing. (at least not in the conventional religious sense) Its the same kind of logic that I see Christian's use all the time: Basically the rest of the world (even though they believe what the believe as strongly as the Christian) is simply just "wrong" and they are right. I always think its important to be wary of that. And I don't mean that in a nasty way, I believe that they believe what they say with all of their heart, I just think they have almost convinced themselves of something that does not exist through being able to manipulate the human mind (which is quite malleable). Also--quick note--let's say god was real, and it was a real thing, why would He choose to align himself with one of the most historically corrupt and awful institutions this world has ever seen?
@@nickolasgaspar9660 Yeah, I feel like those who cling to religion have an unfair advantage in this debate because depending on the person they can just make up whatever definitions fit their arguments. They may see themselves as "ultimately correct" but I know that there are billions of other believers who possess the same exact veracity that THEY are correct so therefore the likelihood is that one of them is wrong because it is not like one person has access to a supernatural conscious and one person doesn't. So one person could be wrong......or maybe both people are wrong....
> I believe that they believe what they say with all of their heart I doubt that they believe any of it. Maybe a few actually do, like mothers who would pray for their sick children at the expense of actual medical attention. But true believers who actually base their working model of the world on their religion would stand out as insane fanatics, or schizophrenics, or something along those lines. I think the mainstream notion of religious belief is not belief at all. It's a complicated mess involving habits of storytelling, attribution of various things to God, and all sorts of ritualistic thinking and motions associated with religion. But I'm pretty convinced that most religious people have the same expectations from reality as atheists have. They'll pray, and dream, and think about God, and then go ahead and plan their actions in the real world in a way that only makes sense in a godless world. And when the universe shows its usual indifference, when prayer fails to cure cancer and nobody miraculously survives the plane crash - they feel sad about it, but not surprised. I think this means that fundamentally, their predictive model of reality is godless.
well, somebody is obviously wrong. but why do u think that being incorrect on something (ex. God exists, he has x properties) while it is objectively false, is worse than being incorrect on denying something while that is actually true?
This video is a breath of fresh air. I have seen lots of videos with Richard Dawkins arguing with theists which just get really awkward and destructive. This is a much better conversation.
God is a concept, certainly By which we measure Our pain, poetic and stimulative of one's imagination but the concept is the focus of social control systems that have become obsolete with the rise of democracy.
Absolutely disagree. First, he mischaracterizes infinitely and the effect Second, God could easily correct pain and suffering but he would rob us of his greatest gift to us, free will. If he intervened, his divine hiddenness would be exposed and we would be forever fearfully enslaved. The rest of his nonsense is simply mambo jumbo crafted to sound intellectual. It’s not.
ما اخرجناه من الباب نعيده من النافذة ؟؟ ونعيد الالتباس ونعيد انكار انفسنا وانكار العالم ونعيد دفن رؤوسنا في رمال السماوات ونعيد فتش عن ايمانك في قلبك وكن على حذر شديد مما تختاره لحياتك القادمة وتجسدك القادم ؟؟؟ لا ...لن نعيد شيئا من ذلك ولتبق لنا حماقتنا وغفلتنا ويبقى لنا الخراء نحمله في امعائنا بينما نتكلم عن التسامي الى معالي الامور
The problem with this question is that you first must answer the question, What is a human being? Once that is answered, the question of What is God is also answered.
If you chose this idea, does that speak more of your own personal limitations? I mean, your inquiry seems a little self-involved; “want something really bad and you close your eyes and wish for it, (and) God” ignores you. I am not foolish enough to try to convince you of anything, I may be naive enough to believe your written words as your truths. Let me just ask, in my career, especially in the Army, I did things that I would never think I could do or ever volunteer to do. (I served from 1981-1986). But, if “I wished” not to do such things, I would have missed valuable lessons about myself and my capabilities and how soldiers can work together to do amazing things. Again, you choose your beliefs, but remember they are only your “perceptional truths” (David Bohm).
Robert Kuhn: I have much respect for your education and intelligence, but as a person with limited degrees, I respectfully say, I don’t believe you will ever find any answer different than your worldview (as I see and understand you). Or, as a man with the same last name as you, Thomas Kuhn, you’re locked into a paradigm that is unchangeable? Or metaphorically speaking you are missing a fundamental ingredient in your logic; you are using a Newtonian mind trying to explain entangled particles. If I may borrow a verse from Billy S.; There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy [science].” Again, much respect to you for your erudition, but if I am correct, you are missing the sublime Spiritual nature of this material word. Without which you will never convince yourself that there is a good explanation of God. I would love to discuss more with you, but I am well aware you will run circles around me. But, as I would still enjoy to engage directly with you. One last thing; thought experiment. If we could imbue a quark, or a single proton (in the particle concept) with awareness, then would the lab, the science building or the twin in which surrounds us, does that equal our relationship to the Universe in size and significance? You assume our size is the standard. What if we are just quanta in the universe? I hope I didn’t waste your time. Tony
God is the ultimate consciousness , the infinite formless that give infinite forms , the light of infinite colors , the awareness of infinite awareness .
God is the ultimate Being without which nothing would exist. God is the precondition necessary for everything to exist. Did I mention without God nothing would exist?
When All Religions that believe in God come together and provide a single definition of What God "IS", I'll have a better understaning of my relationship to that defnition, otherwise, I'll wilholdhold judgement...
@USA TAMONDOMUNI Perhaps some people want to put all their energy into suporting a belief in a God. Others want to put their energy into the belief in Science. Some don't want to believe in anything, not even truth. And some seek to sense the Truth. However if humanity doesn't survive in the long run, it's all inconsequetial..
Are we really getting smarter as a species...? Well the truth is that we constantly increase the size of our epistemic circle....in the process the perimeter of our ignorance gets bigger.
@fynes leigh to "know" means to be able to express a claim that is in agreement with available current facts and useful in our process of producing further knowledge, testable predictions and technical applications.
@fynes leigh -"I think you probably already know that that definition will not bear close examination for more than two seconds, because you appear to be saying that knowledge is saying something, which is obviously absurd. " -You are pulling my leg right? Of course knowledge is a quality and an evaluation we apply on our statements. (Oxford University-Logic 101). -"You will have to do much better than that." -You will need to do better if you making a different existential claim about the abstract concept of "knowledge"! Try posting a definition of Knowledge for a change. -"What do you know as surely as you know pain?" -Are you familiar with the Nocebo effect? So pain is an emotion that we reason in to a feeling. We are aware of our pain because we feel this emotion. So our knowledge of this feeling is based on current available facts collected by our sensory system. You are trying to make an argument based on a fallacy of ambiguity (equate our awareness of a fact(information) ..the feel of an emotion, with knowing..not wise or useful). -"If merely saying something wwere knowledge, then all men would know, and they plainly do not. Do you understand the very real and fundamental difference between knowledge and information?" -You are promoting a strawman. Facts are information. Our framework explaining those facts is knowledge mate. -"I can easily illustrate it if you wish. " -You have illustrate your confusion and your inability to put down a sentence without containing a logical fallacy! -" In my respectful submission knowledge is direct immediate personal apprehension, as direct immediate and personal as pain, and anything falling short of that could not possibly be knowledge." -ok yes.....but No. this is a mystic woo woo definition. Again argument from ambiguity. Being aware of an emotion is a fact we receive from our Biology. Knowledge would be if we could FIND OUT THE CAUSE OF THE PAIN AND TREAT IT mate... -"Thus you "know" absolutely nothing about tiny things such as atoms and electrons or subatomic particles, and nor does anyone else, nor could anyone else possibly have any direct immediate personal apprehension of them, you agree?" -You can not state that while using a device and an internet connection which both are based on that exact knowledge mate.....Again you are confusing Absolute Knowledge (a red herring, one more fallacy) with Knowledge. Knowledge is not absolute, it evolves along with our observations. Science being the most reliable type of knowledge makes that clear. Knowledge is an evaluation term we apply on our current claims about the world. We use facts(information) and establish a narrative. If this narrative is compatible with our current facts and produces more knowledge predictions and technical applications then we evaluate it as KNOWLEDGE. This is really simple mate. -"Perhaps you don't understand the difference between knowledge and information." -I am sure I explained twice your error on this. Information=facts , Knowledge=Instrumentally valuable narrative of those facts. -"Self-evidently nobody can "know" anything about the past because it is not possible to directly immediately personally apprehend anything whatsoever about the past or the future (which is a dream)" -Self evidently Forensic Science renders your claim wrong. Self evidently scientific theories are frameworks that offer accurate predictions based on studying the past.I think we are good for now.
@@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 that is a vague deepity. The perimeter of our ignorance is relative to the circle of our knowledge. We can not realize what we don't know without realizing what we already know.
If we were then asked if the Philosopher's God perfectly describe our Theistic God (The God of our Religion) then we are just attempting to rationalize his existence. But if our Theistic God is invented then neither is true because both are products of the human mind. If there's a God, I would never limit God to reasoning and justification but also never underestimate the creativity of the human mind. If many religions exist and the fact that there are several legends and myths and also moral lessons that can be drawn through literature, one might think that it is man who created God not the other way around. Institutions forming doctrines and creed are possible even with a fake God. If people are explaining this and that but at the end arrived at a mystery then that's for rhetoric. Because we all know that truth is not a mystery. I love the questioning. Great interview on Mr. John Hick.
John Hick: "There are a lot of different religions out there, they seem to contradict each other, they all seem to be equally productive of good people and saintliness!" Very true sir, but I guess you missed one point there: religions have also been capable of bringing a lot of misery, torture, wars and other atrocities upon humans throughout the history!
Institutionally atheist regimes - political systems where adherence to a religious deity is punishable by imprisonment or death - have killed over 100 million in the last century alone. This adheres to the belief in fallen man, whereas atheist inspired death is consistent with the belief in people as machines, and as such, disposable. There's always the No True Scotsman get out, that they were the wrong kind of atheist.
@@borderlands6606 that has no effect on the person's claim. If 100 million people died "due to athiesm" then 1 billion people have died in history due to religion. What's the point in making it a numbers, us-vs-them, game?
Atheistic regimes don’t murder people because the regimes are atheist. They murder them because they’re dictatorships, just as religious dictatorships do.
@@melgross exactly, dogmatic ideology is the problem. The belief itself or lack thereof is almost irrelevant to the capacity of it's followers to commit atrocities.
@@melgross Yes, I think Christopher Hitchens said that North Korea is the most religious state, it wants people to praise their leader day and night. I think most people forget "atheist regimes" do not centre their ideologies on atheism, but on things like communism or authoritarianism. In that sense any regime which focuses on absolute power is religious (There is a distinction between being theist and being religious).
God is an ideal . A concept . The idea of perfection and something of which values to live up to. Physics , the interplay of cause and effect and how it plays out is the only inherent ultimate omniscience
God is not just creator but, also creation God lives in the heart of every living thing There is nothing other than God If I think there is anything other than God, that reflects on inability of my mind to perceive the oneness of everything
outstanding series. great questions and world’s best thinkers on these issues. i really like polkingham’s “process theology” notion of an open future, ie, God does not know the future. but i wonder if this is too much a view of God bound by time, which is a constituitive element of our physical universe, but what about the universe (multiverse) beyond or outside of time, and God’s relationship to that bigger picture? Time itself is a problematic aspect to cosmology, in my thinking
Some scientists earn a living through science - and through teaching science - while also admitting that they don't understand the totality of the scientific and physical world. It's possible to understand bits of the whole, even when other bits elude.
Nobody has ever claimed to explain god; nobody of good intent that is. Cult leaders and evildoers, like those who claim to contact the dead (for a large fee) prey on the gullible. The spirit of enquiry drives the Closer to Truth series; where is the person explaining god? I must have missed that part!
@@thetoddlanders1992 I refuse to use anything I couldn't make myself from scratch. You wanna see my car and the clothes I wear! And don't get me started on the food proplem..OMG!!😂
It makes sense for God to be a Person, rather than some nebulous concept or karma force. If God we mean the greatest of all entities, then Personhood is greater than non-personhood. God communicates to us about himself and reality as a Person. It makes total sense.
Infinite Gods,Just different level of conciousness.i believe.Knowing makes the level of conciousness.The more knowledgable the higher the level of conciousness.Auto update mode.That is why different gods came on earth at different times as per requirement.
Well knowledge is not the only parameter for more advanced conscious states. Critical thinking, social wisdom, empathy, memory, experiences etc are some of the mind properties needed for elevated conscious states. The extent of brain connectivity is a huge parameter for the quality of our conscious states.
If you always do something perfect and everyone applauds you. You don't know how great it is until you can't do it anymore. And so the absolute and it's need to know itself. Created this existence positive negative update on left. Right, happy, sad. So you could experience both and when you go home to the absolute.You'll know it for the first time.How wonderful it is to be absolutely
What is what? Were is were? Who is who? Why is why? These Are Just Some Of The Question's That May Never Be answered, And If Answered, May Not Be The Answer We Want To Hear... Ain't Life But A Dream!!.
Because what is and can only be what... Until what is defined... So also who, where and why, they are mysteries that tries to find a definition for certain things or events.
The pride of man is infinite! God is not explicable or possibly understood. Philosophers and theologian should ask the animals about God,they know,yet they ignore God and live their life without making war! For me God is a feeling in our heart!
God is like the movie screen Universe is like the movie Without screen there is no movie And the screen is unmoved by the rollercoaster ride of the movie
So Ramana Maharishi is God...lol...or are you quoting him? Awareness is not a thing that does anything. Awareness is a mental ability product of a biological process(brain function). Being aware allow us to identify things in existence. Existence is primary. In order to be aware of us and the things around us they all must first exist.
@tanon Do you know you are hungry without having to think about it? Do you have to think about it before you breathe. A baby is aware virtually from Day 1 ( maybe even in the womb) long before the brain has developed a thinking capacity. To know precedes thought. Awareness is Being and the world is It 'awaring'. The only substance which is ( and is it a substance ?), is Awareness.
All of You, must understand the basic reality, that the Being, and the Ability of the Being, is two sides of the Eternal Life, which in it's own eternal nature is name-less, and also have no meaning, as is a part of the creation.
@Olivia Maynard A Jewish American Derrick Feinman asked God to guide him to the correct religion that is accepted by God, please watch this video how God answered this man supplication it was a miracle in the broad daylight, this video is posted by Derrick Feinman himself on his channel with video title: "Derrick Feinman How Islam Found Me: My Conversion to Islam" Channel name is Derrick Feinman. No third person or middle man in this story between a believer and God.
@Olivia Maynard It was an identical miracle reported by an corporal in marine went to Afghanistan, but God had different plan for this corporal and God converted him to Islam, it was a miracle in the broad daylight, how God guides to whom HE wills, feel free to watch. Video titled on YT is "AFTER COMBAT - THE STORY OF A MARINE'S CONVERSION TO ISLAM". channel named: Nick E.
9:22 nice try on the old switch on the onus of proof. The onus is on sir - the theist, to define which god you believe in. And then the onus is also on you to prove that god is real, not only to atheists but particularly to other theists who believe in a different god that, according to you, is false. Not only you are incapable of proving that your god is real, you can't prove that all those other gods you reject are false.
This guy wouldn't believe in God without Jesus. Pretty narrow minded and quite obvious when you listen to him. My Bible says that Jesus was human not God. Any proof of that? "Father. Why have you forsaken me?" Would God doubt in himself?
The evidence paradox is always in play. If God is a serial killer, are you willing to "Die For Proof?" I think not old son. Hence Jesus won that which had never been won before, eternal life for himself and two billion consent decrees for individuals seeking continuity of consciousness. You don't make demands of GOD. He sets a price and you either meet it or walk away, if he doesn't kill you on the spot, as a false god. Are you GOD?
All humans seek a higher power, the supernatural. Atheists have even come up with a joke called spiritual atheism, they crave for a connection with the immaterial. The human nature testifies against materialism and the phrase survival of the fittest.
@effinghamhick "you know, intuitively that God exists"??? What an oxymoron. We know that intuition is far far less credible than knowledge. Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman made that clear by his awarded work on heuristics.(with Amos Tversky)
@@mohammedjafferali693 Secular spirituality has nothing to do with the search of a higher power(whatever that means). As Sean Carroll says, Poetic Naturalism is nothing more than our ability to experience feelings without the need to believe in magic.
@@antilaw9911 I think that the don't just fear "hell". Their existential anxiety forces them to accept any available death denying ideology. This is why we can witness the rise of new age woo and all the relative idealistic bs about consciousness and awareness and energies. Most dudes can not accept that this party has an end due to the expiration date of their biology.
Came across this website - www.doesgodexistandbeyond.com/evidenceoftheresurrection/ investigates Christianity with Reason and Logical Evaluation. And explains Proven Biblical Manuscript History ( Historiography ) - www.doesgodexistandbeyond.com/manuscriptevidenceofthebiblepages/ Also answers skeptic accusations Examining Primary Evidences and Sources. Worth a read.
@@carlwebstern5065 Sorry, I read through some (not all, at all) and the main problem I have is that in order to accept any arguments, Christians throw in these giant faith balls. From the web site: "By doing this, he paid the ransom for all the sins of mankind on himself, and by the shedding of his blood and his death, he had become that Sin." Christians have the problem of having such a complicated theology that they don't know what first principles look like. To be honest, when people say "Jesus died for your sins" I have no idea what that means. I was raised and confirmed Catholic, and I have no idea what that means. To me, all that says is that if I accept Jesus (whatever that means) that I'll go to Heaven, but the crux of the argument is that I should be scared enough to figure out what it means, and if I don't figure it out I might as well lie to myself and tell people I know what it means, because I sure as hell want to go to Heaven. If someone could for once explain what "Jesus died for your sins" actually means and how that's supposed to psychologically and emotionally affect me, I'll at least have a piece of the puzzle. That website is not a place to go for arguments. It's a sermon.
Food for Thought 👍👍 But, questions can never end... a) If You find the most/last fundamental particle... the very next question will be..."From where this last fundamental particle came?" b) If You find God... the very next question will be..."From where God came?" c) If You say this last fundamental particle/God existed always.... the next questions will be... "Who/Which rule decided that the God is to be good/powerful/one etc. (Why not many Gods/less powerful God/evil God)" "Which rule decided that the last fundamental particle will have these properties only, which it will possess...why not some different properties?" "How can an immaterial God make something material? What is the process behind this conversion?" What is the energy source of an immaterial thing by which it can sustain? etc. etc. Therefore in spirituality/Yoga they say that we should focus on achieving Supreme Happiness (Happiness/Bliss that never goes away). Even if we find everything in the universe, ultimately we will achieve satisfaction/happiness. So, they say don't give much importance to knowledge (because questions can never end)...but give importance to the path which leads you to a state of default/supreme happiness, which once achieved never ever goes away.. God is nothing but this state. Once we achieve this state, they say, we are no different from God...then, we become God.
Yup, just like Hawking loved to say “singularity” over & over, and Kurzweil loves to say “exponential” 1,000 times a day..... for these type of people, saying a cool sounding intellectual word over & over & over becomes like a ‘trademark’ for them - makes them seem clever and super smart.
God IS truth, therefore “he” is real. The question, for me, isn’t whether he’s personal but whether i must follow him to find joy. This is religion. Compare mainstream Gods And you’ll see the personification of reality. See how society seeks for joy in escaping reality while spiritual or religious practice seeks it in loving truth (god).
@@nickolasgaspar9660 You are a big time fool if you think that reality is made of physical impressions. I can assure you that reality is not made of physical impressions. I dont what you are thinking but you are mistake about what reality is =D Oh, my dear Nickolas - you are such a fool =D And I say this with the all love in my heart =D God bless you mate =D
The ‘creator’ - along with its reasons for creating whatever it creates (how, where, when & with what materials, etc) - is another thing. There simply is absolutely no information on these issues, so avoid all hubris & just admit WE DON’T KNOW !!!!
🤦🏾♂️ he created it with his WORD! He spoke and it was done! He creates the universe for his glory and the earth to be a habitation for his creatures!..all this is in the bible!!
Came across this website - www.doesgodexistandbeyond.com/evidenceoftheresurrection/ investigates Christianity with Reason and Logical Evaluation. And explains Proven Biblical Manuscript History ( Historiography ) - www.doesgodexistandbeyond.com/manuscriptevidenceofthebiblepages/ Also answers skeptic accusations Examining Primary Evidences and Sources. Worth a read.
The search is endless to find truth. Reality is always just beyond our grasp. As we approach it expands. We are left within our being of consciousness to contemplate...how to know the unknowable.
There is that hole in someone's existence that can only be filled by God-consciousness, that is what brought up this Question since the beginning of humanity.
"hole in someone's existence" --- The often repeated phrase is a useful metaphor for practical intuition. It does not however reflect classical theology and is quite contrary to it.
Before the Big Bang，God used to live in a nut. He felt stressed，then he created the universe. Now everything comes from a nut -- human cat fish chiken trees .
The problem with all these ideas about god is that they are just what happens to appeal to that person. They are what that individual thinks makes sense at that time, and they’re all different, and in many cases mutually contradictory. They are very clearly just what that person dreamed up, or came across and latched on to. Hick gets closest by assuming an ultimate divinity behind all these different religious viewpoints, but makes a fundamental error. He says that atheists don’t consider personal religious experience. That’s flat out not true, and as a professional theologian he must know that. Atheists simply think that religious experience is a neurological process. That’s all there is to it. Take that away and there’s just nothing left in theology that needs explanation. As Kuhn says in another video, and I paraphrase, all these different ideas about god, with no way to choose between them other than personal preference, is exactly what you’d expect if they were all made up.
God is an imaginary thing created in the mind of humans. Man has created many gods all over the world since day 1. Man has also created big foot and flying saucers controlled by little green men. There is no limit the man's imagination.
I remember the notion of a theologian about the personality of God. He said that God is certainly not less than personal. He seems to have meant that God has for instance something like willpower or that he can be adressed and is capable of adressing human beeings. Moreover it is a common understanding in christian theology that all human speech about God can only be understood as analogous.
If a man were to worship and nurture a tree, and prayed every day for that tree to bear him fruit for consumption, and that tree did bear him good fruit: Then that tree would be his god. Since the tree is real and existing that would mean that his god is a real and existing god. Christians worship the Supreme God which is, ‘the cause of all creation’. Love of Christ in our hearts leads to community’s prayers which are answered with blessings including prosperity. The Holy Spirit gives us moral strength and is recognized as the Christian communities guiding influence. From a science perspective; ‘the cause of all creation’, originates from the laws of Nature. Social morals and ethics give rise to a stable society capable of social endeavors. In addition, Emotional Intelligent is responsible for the needed communication in any complex social environment. From a scientific viewpoint the worshiped Christian God is a real and existing Supreme God. Sustaining the universe, this all-powerful, present and knowing God is described by the Laws of Nature. The included source of All -Good is made evident when the Laws of Nature are used solely for the benefit of man’s survival and prosperity. The Holy Spirit accommodates this process of moral goodness and advanced communication. With this understanding, Atheism is no longer considered rational as there is now scientific evidence for the opposite view. It must be said that this view of God is not the regular supernatural view of God since science does not associate with the supernatural. With this understanding the Christian God is a real, existing God; Not supernatural. It is the lack of knowledge of the natural universe that has led to the terms, ‘supernatural’ and ‘miraculous’, to explain the unknown. Many Believers will not comprehend or endorse this view of a non-supernatural supreme God. Regardless, science evidence reveals that, 'Worshiping Christ which is in your heart leads to answered prayers'.
It blows my mind every time I wake up that we humans still in 2022 don’t know how we got here and from where and how it all began before it all started and where we go when we die. I hope there is a God and I continue to hope for the afterlife. With all we have accomplished with technology etc we still don’t know.
Devine purpose: God wants to be known and loved. He reveails himaelf by his actions which can be observable by means of science throughout the Universe.
@Pro-Touch The God who created this infinite universe did not subject mercy and salvation upon crime against humanity in the killing blameless man of God i.e. Jesus(pbuh). Jesus was saved from humiliation, torture, nakedness on the cross and near death ordeal, which Christians don't like it.
God is created. Humans have been asking God questions for millennia and seem to be none the wiser. That should tell you something. The question for me is, "since I'm here, what should I do with my brief life?" Whatever guidelines and philosophies help me to accomplish that, I go with those.
have you ever played a video game for first time? how do you come to know what need to done in that game (assuming no direct sign or help provided)? i give you hint, what I am supposed to do in this life is goal one of this game. 2nd question: did you achieve that goal or purpose? you achieve/completed that goal game completed. if failed, game over start again.
"the God, no God question is so central to human life." In my opinion, I don't think most people ponder God's existence. So even though this question is very important to Robert, I don't see the centrality of God's existence to be a fixation for the vast majority of people today.
As an atheist the issue of God is a frequent subject of my thoughts. How do people think of God, what is they're use of language, their unspoken assumptions. What are they getting out of it?
When I was a kid, I looked up to adults, wanting to grow up and be like them, smart and wise, but when I became an adult, I came to a shocking realization that most adults around me were just old children.
Well said! Religions come with preconceived notions of God. There's only one Creator, so all notions of God are bound to contain erroneous beliefs. It's worse since it's known that the universe is not just limited to our earth. Since humans are ignorant of what's out there, their perceptions of God is bound to be totally wrong!
Yes. It is shocking. Even your college professors. 😳🤦♀️🤷♀️ I made a few scientific arguments for the idea in another video in this series and no one else seems to be making them. I actually wrote a book about these things but no one seems to want to read it because it’s like 400 pages and I left graduate school in behavioral neuroscience and evolutionary psychology to write it and it’s dense.... so here it is in a nutshell -the absolute best and irrefutable arguments for god, and it even encompasses aliens-if they exist-and all human religions ALL religions. I think it will be quite helpful:
You have to let go of past arguments, in order to see how a god concept is actually a real and predictive theory of the Universe which no other theory can even come close in explanatory and predictive power. You have to understand the paradoxical in the functions of the brain, and understand human and animal epistemology. It’s quite easy to see where god came from and how humans are models of god.
All “theories of everything” are laughable if they do not consider brains and the arts along with physics. They have to consider all forms of information. Not just one aspect or another which allows a certain ignorance so that you can say “then a miracle happens” after you discover a Higgs Boson, for example.
So if you really want to predict everything then you will be interested in a real theory of actually everything.
There are scientific theories of god and to me, in its overall epistemological ideals, science itself is the greatest religion of all. It searches for the eternal in the fleeting. Instead of “Thor” we see electricity now. We see more meaning and more power as we unify these eternal principles. We can be more creative as we do so.
Eternal
Creative power
Meaning
-sounds like moving toward god to me. 😊 And it is.
That’s why I wrote “The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God” 🥰🤷♀️
I have never seen anyone else provide a theory which even comes close to all I have predicted and explained with this theory. Makes the theory of evolution look like a tinkertoy. All these people who say there isn’t a god are making a “straw man” argument fallacy. They use antiquated ideas of god instead of looking at the direction and epistemology of the entire body of human inquiry. They make fun of our ancestors ideas instead of modernizing them logically-as we did with mystical alchemy which became modern chemistry or Pythagorean mysticism becoming modern geometry. This is absolutely no different. They may not have fully understood what they were talking about and projected the known human attributes onto the idea, but that doesn’t mean that the idea wasn’t a distillation of something real at its core. Once you understand how the universe is constructed as a teaching machine from beyond time then it will be perfectly clear. Meaning is the key.
The reason not everyone saw the meaning in feelings of disgust that something invisible “infected” something rotting, is why we did not have a germ theory of disease and why we ridiculed people who advocated it at one time. People who gather knowledge only for their own purposes and lives now tend to want to pontificate on life in general but what they are really doing is projecting their own rationalizations unaware onto reality. A process ironically that led people like me to come up with processes like science to try to get past their deadly self-motivated ignorance that they cling to like a drowning man to a timber in a hurricane. So yeah, the people who are now arguing against god are grasping onto science and using it in self-serving ways to maintain the my-life’s-purpose-rationale, a sort of paving over all blind spots with any spackle that works, so that they can get away with as little thinking as possible.
Logically there is no other way that reality and brains can exist, that the actual language of reality could exist, without an eternal center of meaning and creative coherence which our ancestors called god. Everything in the known universe is a set of interlocking symbols. Including you. It constitutes a book which can only be read one way once you understand the symbols and what they actually mean.
There is a unified meaning behind all things. Just as there was a unified meaning behind physical phenomena in general which led to our ability with math, science, and symbols in general.
So behind all of these things is a larger creative unity of ultimate meaning and selective power. What you see arrayed before you as “Universe” is obviously a teaching machine. An information instrument panel not unlike a human brain.
@@jeancorriveau8686 You definitely made a good argument-which is way more than most do. Here is some additional information you may find helpful. I made these comments on one of the other videos about atheism in this series:
You have to let go of past arguments, in order to see how a god concept is actually a real and predictive theory of the Universe which no other theory can even come close in explanatory and predictive power. You have to understand the paradoxical in the functions of the brain, and understand human and animal epistemology. It’s quite easy to see where god came from and how humans are models of god.
All “theories of everything” are laughable if they do not consider brains and the arts along with physics. They have to consider all forms of information. Not just one aspect or another which allows a certain ignorance so that you can say “then a miracle happens” after you discover a Higgs Boson, for example.
So if you really want to predict everything then you will be interested in a real theory of actually everything.
There are scientific theories of god and to me, in its overall epistemological ideals, science itself is the greatest religion of all. It searches for the eternal in the fleeting. Instead of “Thor” we see electricity now. We see more meaning and more power as we unify these eternal principles. We can be more creative as we do so.
Eternal
Creative power
Meaning
-sounds like moving toward god to me. 😊 And it is.
That’s why I wrote “The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God” 🥰🤷♀️
I have never seen anyone else provide a theory which even comes close to all I have predicted and explained with this theory. Makes the theory of evolution look like a tinkertoy. All these people who say there isn’t a god are making a “straw man” argument fallacy. They use antiquated ideas of god instead of looking at the direction and epistemology of the entire body of human inquiry. They make fun of our ancestors ideas instead of modernizing them logically-as we did with mystical alchemy which became modern chemistry or Pythagorean mysticism becoming modern geometry. This is absolutely no different. They may not have fully understood what they were talking about and projected the known human attributes onto the idea, but that doesn’t mean that the idea wasn’t a distillation of something real at its core. Once you understand how the universe is constructed as a teaching machine from beyond time then it will be perfectly clear. Meaning is the key.
The reason not everyone saw the meaning in feelings of disgust that something invisible “infected” something rotting, is why we did not have a germ theory of disease and why we ridiculed people who advocated it at one time. People who gather knowledge only for their own purposes and lives now tend to want to pontificate on life in general but what they are really doing is projecting their own rationalizations unaware onto reality. A process ironically that led people like me to come up with processes like science to try to get past their deadly self-motivated ignorance that they cling to like a drowning man to a timber in a hurricane. So yeah, the people who are now arguing against god are grasping onto science and using it in self-serving ways to maintain the my-life’s-purpose-rationale, a sort of paving over all blind spots with any spackle that works, so that they can get away with as little thinking as possible.
Logically there is no other way that reality and brains can exist, that the actual language of reality could exist, without an eternal center of meaning and creative coherence which our ancestors called god. Everything in the known universe is a set of interlocking symbols. Including you. It constitutes a book which can only be read one way once you understand the symbols and what they actually mean.
There is a unified meaning behind all things. Just as there was a unified meaning behind physical phenomena in general which led to our ability with math, science, and symbols in general.
So behind all of these things is a larger creative unity of ultimate meaning and selective power. What you see arrayed before you as “Universe” is obviously a teaching machine. An information instrument panel not unlike a human brain.
@@spiralsun1 Interesting, there is progress in time. But I would say this does not make the past obsolete. While mysticism from pythagoras is gone, platonic mathematics has if anything made a return after Godel and Frege. God as a conception may become more clearer with newer information, but I don't think this makes the past ideas of the earlier Church fathers (for example) any less valid. Just conceptualized in a different way.
Science is nice, but contrary to its dogmatic materialistic believers, its ultimately rested on mathematical truths. And math itself has always been open to mysticism as much as any natural science.
You're quite right. For most adults either don't possess or use the power of reason to tackle deep issues as those which Robert Lawrence Kuhn does.
The best channel on TH-cam regarding deepest philosophical questions.
Totally agree
I love it
I fourth this notion
But these questions are discussed only in the western half of the world mostly UK and USA. Let me watch more then I can comment with certainty.
Agreed.
It is like having a great mountain rising out of the plains. Well, everywhere you look at the mountain, it looks slightly different, depending on where you are looking. If you are up close, if you are far away, if you are to the north, the south, the east or the west-it all looks different, you see. But it is the same mountain. It has not changed with your perspective.
You may debate with others about the appearance of the mountain. You are looking from the north and they are looking from the south. Oh, the mountain looks so very different. You argue about its features and its manifestations. To someone up close, it is huge and monumental. To someone at a distance, it is just something out on the horizon. The experience is different. The perspectives are different. But the mountain has not changed. It has not adapted itself to people’s perspective or people’s position around it.
~Marshall Vian Summers
Thank you, Rod.
God is Truth. Truth built a mountain and challenges us to move it; and has told us as much. And everyone can see it; though they may lie.
@USA TAMONDOMUNI Nah, the brain is becoming a coherence detector and we're having trouble articulating; simple as that. ... Oh, and maybe Truth is a person, given what we know about "persons".
As an atheist, I considered this chapter as engaging as the rest. Good work.
no one cares sorry
Iam not an atheist but i have a reservation that god does not exist actually it is only a product of imagination.People have percieved god to be perfect and all the superlative attrubutes. Giving such a characteristic even not having a personal encounternif god is simewhat problematic because you have no physical knowledge of god.
@@grande6075 "People have percieved god to be perfect and all the superlative attrubutes" ----
This reflects a later protestant perspective. It is not the view of classical theology.
Peace be with you.
@@iggswanna1248 you cared enough to comment; so apparently someone cares.
A means From and Theist means Consciousness. Ask me for further information if needed.
This is the question that every thoughtful individual struggles with. The unexamined life is not worth living, Socrates.
When Einstein gave lectures at U.S. universities, the recurring question that students asked him most was:
- Do you believe in God?
And he always answered:
- I believe in the God of Spinoza.
Baruch de Spinoza was a Dutch philosopher considered one of the great rationalists of 17th century philosophy, along with Descartes.
(Spinoza) : God would say:
Stop praying.
What I want you to do is go out into the world and enjoy your life. I want you to sing, have fun and enjoy everything I've made for you.
Stop going into those dark, cold temples that you built yourself and saying they are my house. My house is in the mountains, in the woods, rivers, lakes, beaches. That's where I live and there I express my love for you.
Stop blaming me for your miserable life; I never told you there was anything wrong with you or that you were a sinner, or that your sexuality was a bad thing. Sex is a gift I have given you and with which you can express your love, your ecstasy, your joy. So don't blame me for everything they made you believe.
Stop reading alleged sacred scriptures that have nothing to do with me. If you can't read me in a sunrise, in a landscape, in the look of your friends, in your son's eyes... ➤ you will find me in no book!
Stop asking me "will you tell me how to do my job?" Stop being so scared of me. I do not judge you or criticize you, nor get angry, or bothered. I am pure love.
Stop asking for forgiveness, there's nothing to forgive. If I made you... I filled you with passions, limitations, pleasures, feelings, needs, inconsistencies... free will. How can I blame you if you respond to something I put in you? How can I punish you for being the way you are, if I'm the one who made you? Do you think I could create a place to burn all my children who behave badly for the rest of eternity? What kind of god would do that?
Respect your peers and don't do what you don't want for yourself. All I ask is that you pay attention in your life, that alertness is your guide.
My beloved, this life is not a test, not a step on the way, not a rehearsal, nor a prelude to paradise. This life is the only thing here and now and it is all you need.
I have set you absolutely free, no prizes or punishments, no sins or virtues, no one carries a marker, no one keeps a record.
You are absolutely free to create in your life. Heaven or hell.
➤ I can't tell you if there's anything after this life but I can give you a tip. Live as if there is not. As if this is your only chance to enjoy, to love, to exist.
So, if there's nothing after, then you will have enjoyed the opportunity I gave you. And if there is, rest assured that I won't ask if you behaved right or wrong, I'll ask. Did you like it? Did you have fun? What did you enjoy the most? What did you learn?...
Stop believing in me; believing is assuming, guessing, imagining. I don't want you to believe in me, I want you to believe in you. I want you to feel me in you when you kiss your beloved, when you tuck in your little girl, when you caress your dog, when you bathe in the sea.
Stop praising me, what kind of egomaniac God do you think I am?
I'm bored being praised. I'm tired of being thanked. Feeling grateful? Prove it by taking care of yourself, your health, your relationships, the world. Express your joy! That's the way to praise me.
Stop complicating things and repeating as a parakeet what you've been taught about me.
What do you need more miracles for? So many explanations?
The only thing for sure is that you are here, that you are alive, that this world is full of wonders.
- Spinoza
🎯
Well said . ❤
I'm wondering what Mr. Spinoza would say after the "mania" stops, like say, just before bedtime. Or 'after' a grand meal, or just after the orgasm. In any case just like you, I assume I understand Mr. Spinoza. But Mr. Spinoza doesn't understand me!, or explain the existence of diametrically opposite other 'suffering' lot.
God is all love. God is all truth. God is all knowledge. God is more important 🙏 than any man.
Lots of suffering. Where’s the love???
For each interviewee their descriptions are just a reflection of their own values. It's so obvious if you take a step back lol
True, just cherry picking
@@JoseArias-fn5pf cherry picking exists in every form of belief and non-belief. we ultimately choose what to believe, sometimes out of convenience, ego etc.
That goes for the interviewer too.
I have never seen a slimier representation of an unbiased
truth seeker than the Atheist Kuhn.
I'd like to see him knock on a few scientist's doors once in
a while instead of repeatedly making light of people's faith.
You know, the science that says you can identify as a woman
if you are a man, can kill a child outside the womb or play
with disinformation on pandemics.
Oh, and also the convenient development of multiple universes
and string theory - a theory that requires 500 dimensions to operate.
@@caspermilquetoast411 the interviewer isn’t defining what a god is?
@@Emilnananaxo belief is not chosen. You are either convinced, or not convinced. I cannot just go and choose to believe the sky is green, because no matter what I am NOT convinced of that.
Amazing..with each episode, my mind is getting closer to truth.👍
This although you are truth.
Hi. I’ve been watching your shows for some time. They are great. Each episode teaches so much and opens the mind to different perceptions to a seeker. Only thing is whoever is doing the sound is not doing their job right. When you are having your monologues between the dialogues, the sound is double, so you have to take the volume up and down.
In every show.
God is a spirit being, so I’m afraid us physical beings or anything derived from atoms are just out of luck when it comes to comprehending him in a mental way. We have to come to understand him spiritually by thinking spiritually only I’m afraid Robert. 🫤
I often times hit the thumbs up button long before the video has run its course because i have yet to see one that's not thought provoking.
I'm amazed at my own ability to come up with completely different answers to these questions depending on the day of the week or the hour of the day. I'm also amazed at how long asking these same questions has gotten me absolutely No Closer To Truth.
"asking these same questions" ----
From a classical theology perspective they are simply the wrong questions...
Every God we talk about is just our creation...😊
Makes no sense at all
But in that case, who created the creators?
When I was born, I was told what is GOD, life and so on. So, that's all leads up to believes made up by people. Life is about new experiences and knowledge. Ideas leads to emotions and beliefs.
But do you know what is the reason ( or purpose of " experiences "?
It is said that God is Love. It is not said that God is God.
I love the searchers-those folks who keep looking under every stone and asking questions. I am less comfortable with those who think they have the answers or who have pinned down ultimate reality somehow.
We don't care about what you Think, we care about what you can demonstrate to be true.
So simple concept, so many people fail to understand it..
Speak for yourself.
Truth Is.
It's EZ to fool someone! But it's even harder to convince someone that they have been fooled, especially by religion....
Perhaps God veils itself so not to be by itself.
@@waldwassermann Ok, that made no scene at all! Try again.....
10:58
"Well, it all depends on what you mean by God."
LOL I was just listening & would have sworn that was Jordan Peterson with a swedish accent.
God is truth=truth is god.
God has no physical form. God is spirit. If you want to see god use your spirit not your eyes. Your mind is your spirit. If you can see the truth you see god. Whenever you speak of the truth, you follow god.
@@czarcrisostomo9990
But when god is completely non physical then this would make him a lesser being.
Only when he is the totality of all existence only then he can be the largest and most complex entity which exists.
Every non physical being would just be a part of the totality of everything and therefore a lesser being.
@@czarcrisostomo9990 ok so what is a spirit
That is not a Swedish accent, it is an English accent
@@plantae420I'd have to disagree that a non physical being would be lesser. Having a physical form has lots of disadvantages. We get injured, sick, we age, we die. A non physical being wouldn't necessarily be subject to these things, and therefore, would they not be greater?
One definition of God is: Consciousness, Existence, Bliss. We share in the first two, the third is something we have to work on. What does it take? Maybe surrender to reality, a faith that will be lead to the ultimate goal: liberation which would be Consciousness, Existence, and Bliss. Some Saints seem to have achieved it to the extent that no matter what horrors they are put through their peace of mind is not lost.
@ 2:31 The interviewer answers his own question from the get go, “what do you imagine the concept of god means?”
Key word: Imagine
He was allowing the other to elucidate his thoughts.
Guess we had better bin the entire discipline of philosophy as well while we're at it
Look up the Sanskrit word Kama.
It is just a concept that began in ancient cultures. Passed on through millennia.
God is everything we don't understand about everything untill we do understand it.
What is Cat ? A cat is an animal we talk gibberish to and cat meowing is a message for us to serve him.
That makes more sense than the subject of the video.
Also, the creature in my house that hates me unless I feed him.
@@lepomirbakic4422 Cats are vicious killers actually.
@@lepomirbakic4422
You haven't met my cat. She is a cute little demon. I guess that's why she is still alive.
All cats have 4 legs. My dog has 4 legs. Therefore my dog is a cat.
We know that something cannot come from nothing.
So something must come from something.
And we call that God.
A logical positivist or linguistic philosopher would also ask 'what do we mean by ''real'' or ''reality'' before asking the questions about God that Robert Kuhn asks his philosophers. Kuhn wants to know what is real without asking what 'real' means. Doesn't this defeat the purpose of his metaphysical questions?
Not absolutely (as he speaks on general grounds), but you have a point. The same logic can be applied to the label 'God'. What is god?
@@blijebij Precisely. 'God' has multiple meanings (greater than, creator, etc.), so needs defining before using it in an argument.
It's important to always
Have something to look forward to even if it is difficult to at times
It is amazing to me how people of faith always talk about the same thing in totally different terms. To me--in and of itself--that is some proof that they are all just professional, polished, bullshit artists. If everyone has a completely different conception of what a thing is, then that thing is probably not an actual thing. (at least not in the conventional religious sense)
Its the same kind of logic that I see Christian's use all the time: Basically the rest of the world (even though they believe what the believe as strongly as the Christian) is simply just "wrong" and they are right. I always think its important to be wary of that.
And I don't mean that in a nasty way, I believe that they believe what they say with all of their heart, I just think they have almost convinced themselves of something that does not exist through being able to manipulate the human mind (which is quite malleable). Also--quick note--let's say god was real, and it was a real thing, why would He choose to align himself with one of the most historically corrupt and awful institutions this world has ever seen?
When you play tennis without the net and the lines, its difficult to recognize the game.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 Yeah, I feel like those who cling to religion have an unfair advantage in this debate because depending on the person they can just make up whatever definitions fit their arguments. They may see themselves as "ultimately correct" but I know that there are billions of other believers who possess the same exact veracity that THEY are correct so therefore the likelihood is that one of them is wrong because it is not like one person has access to a supernatural conscious and one person doesn't. So one person could be wrong......or maybe both people are wrong....
@Billy Boffin Magical thinking goes beyond brainwashing.
aeon.co/essays/magical-thinking-still-haunts-all-our-thoughts
> I believe that they believe what they say with all of their heart
I doubt that they believe any of it. Maybe a few actually do, like mothers who would pray for their sick children at the expense of actual medical attention. But true believers who actually base their working model of the world on their religion would stand out as insane fanatics, or schizophrenics, or something along those lines.
I think the mainstream notion of religious belief is not belief at all. It's a complicated mess involving habits of storytelling, attribution of various things to God, and all sorts of ritualistic thinking and motions associated with religion. But I'm pretty convinced that most religious people have the same expectations from reality as atheists have. They'll pray, and dream, and think about God, and then go ahead and plan their actions in the real world in a way that only makes sense in a godless world. And when the universe shows its usual indifference, when prayer fails to cure cancer and nobody miraculously survives the plane crash - they feel sad about it, but not surprised. I think this means that fundamentally, their predictive model of reality is godless.
well, somebody is obviously wrong. but why do u think that being incorrect on something (ex. God exists, he has x properties) while it is objectively false, is worse than being incorrect on denying something while that is actually true?
Without imperfection you’ll never know perfection.
This video is a breath of fresh air. I have seen lots of videos with Richard Dawkins arguing with theists which just get really awkward and destructive. This is a much better conversation.
God is a concept
By which we measure
Our pain
I'll say it again
God is a concept
By which we measure
Our pain
by John Lennon
God is a concept, certainly
By which we measure
Our pain, poetic and stimulative of one's imagination but
the concept is the focus of social control systems that
have become obsolete with the rise of democracy.
10:41 to 16:03 is the most sense ever issued on this topic of God.
It's the only thing that can possibly make any real sense as a matter we can debate at this point.
Absolutely disagree.
First, he mischaracterizes infinitely and the effect
Second, God could easily correct pain and suffering but he would rob us of his greatest gift to us, free will.
If he intervened, his divine hiddenness would be exposed and we would be forever fearfully enslaved.
The rest of his nonsense is simply mambo jumbo crafted to sound intellectual.
It’s not.
ما اخرجناه من الباب نعيده من النافذة ؟؟ ونعيد الالتباس ونعيد انكار انفسنا وانكار العالم ونعيد دفن رؤوسنا في رمال السماوات ونعيد فتش عن ايمانك في قلبك وكن على حذر شديد مما تختاره لحياتك القادمة وتجسدك القادم ؟؟؟ لا ...لن نعيد شيئا من ذلك ولتبق لنا حماقتنا وغفلتنا ويبقى لنا الخراء نحمله في امعائنا بينما نتكلم عن التسامي الى معالي الامور
The problem with this question is that you first must answer the question, What is a human being? Once that is answered, the question of What is God is also answered.
Clever and correct. God and Self are synonyms.
Bottom line "it is stranger than we can think". RBS Haldane. Best reaction "take Jesus at his word". Tolstoy (endorsed by Gandhi, JSM and Einstein.)
"When you want something really bad and you close your eyes and you wish for it, God's the guy that ignores you."
Quite funny, but also pretty silly.
@@thetoddlanders1992 the provide an actual definition
When you look in a mirror there is God. Don't overthink. We are it.
If you chose this idea, does that speak more of your own personal limitations? I mean, your inquiry seems a little self-involved; “want something really bad and you close your eyes and wish for it, (and) God” ignores you. I am not foolish enough to try to convince you of anything, I may be naive enough to believe your written words as your truths. Let me just ask, in my career, especially in the Army, I did things that I would never think I could do or ever volunteer to do. (I served from 1981-1986). But, if “I wished” not to do such things, I would have missed valuable lessons about myself and my capabilities and how soldiers can work together to do amazing things. Again, you choose your beliefs, but remember they are only your “perceptional truths” (David Bohm).
Robert Kuhn: I have much respect for your education and intelligence, but as a person with limited degrees, I respectfully say, I don’t believe you will ever find any answer different than your worldview (as I see and understand you). Or, as a man with the same last name as you, Thomas Kuhn, you’re locked into a paradigm that is unchangeable? Or metaphorically speaking you are missing a fundamental ingredient in your logic; you are using a Newtonian mind trying to explain entangled particles. If I may borrow a verse from Billy S.; There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy [science].”
Again, much respect to you for your erudition, but if I am correct, you are missing the sublime Spiritual nature of this material word. Without which you will never convince yourself that there is a good explanation of God.
I would love to discuss more with you, but I am well aware you will run circles around me. But, as I would still enjoy to engage directly with you.
One last thing; thought experiment. If we could imbue a quark, or a single proton (in the particle concept) with awareness, then would the lab, the science building or the twin in which surrounds us, does that equal our relationship to the Universe in size and significance? You assume our size is the standard. What if we are just quanta in the universe?
I hope I didn’t waste your time. Tony
God is the ultimate consciousness , the infinite formless that give infinite forms , the light of infinite colors , the awareness of infinite awareness .
Marcos galvão How do you know?
What is an ultimate consciousness
I love it! Discussions with smart people about things that cannot be proven or dis-proven.
@USA TAMONDOMUNI There is a saying..."You can't argue with a sick mind."
@USA TAMONDOMUNI Too long man. Please condense.
God is the ultimate Being without which nothing would exist. God is the precondition necessary for everything to exist. Did I mention without God nothing would exist?
When All Religions that believe in God come together and provide a single definition of What God "IS", I'll have a better understaning of my relationship to that defnition, otherwise, I'll wilholdhold judgement...
@USA TAMONDOMUNI Perhaps some people want to put all their energy into suporting a belief in a God. Others want to put their energy into the belief in Science. Some don't want to believe in anything, not even truth. And some seek to sense the Truth. However if humanity doesn't survive in the long run, it's all inconsequetial..
@USA TAMONDOMUNI She's The Womb
I would say God is in constant motion for constant companionship. Hope this is an acceptable answer.
That’s an easy question...God is everything that we will never be able to explain,.. ever
One of the Greatest channel in TH-cam..
The SMARTER we become, the LESS we KNOW.
Are we really getting smarter as a species...?
Well the truth is that we constantly increase the size of our epistemic circle....in the process the perimeter of our ignorance gets bigger.
@fynes leigh to "know" means to be able to express a claim that is in agreement with available current facts and useful in our process of producing further knowledge, testable predictions and technical applications.
@fynes leigh
-"I think you probably already know that that definition will not bear close examination for more than two seconds, because you appear to be saying that knowledge is saying something, which is obviously absurd. "
-You are pulling my leg right? Of course knowledge is a quality and an evaluation we apply on our statements. (Oxford University-Logic 101).
-"You will have to do much better than that."
-You will need to do better if you making a different existential claim about the abstract concept of "knowledge"! Try posting a definition of Knowledge for a change.
-"What do you know as surely as you know pain?"
-Are you familiar with the Nocebo effect?
So pain is an emotion that we reason in to a feeling. We are aware of our pain because we feel this emotion. So our knowledge of this feeling is based on current available facts collected by our sensory system. You are trying to make an argument based on a fallacy of ambiguity (equate our awareness of a fact(information) ..the feel of an emotion, with knowing..not wise or useful).
-"If merely saying something wwere knowledge, then all men would know, and they plainly do not. Do you understand the very real and fundamental difference between knowledge and information?"
-You are promoting a strawman. Facts are information. Our framework explaining those facts is knowledge mate.
-"I can easily illustrate it if you wish. "
-You have illustrate your confusion and your inability to put down a sentence without containing a logical fallacy!
-" In my respectful submission knowledge is direct immediate personal apprehension, as direct immediate and personal as pain, and anything falling short of that could not possibly be knowledge."
-ok yes.....but No. this is a mystic woo woo definition. Again argument from ambiguity. Being aware of an emotion is a fact we receive from our Biology. Knowledge would be if we could FIND OUT THE CAUSE OF THE PAIN AND TREAT IT mate...
-"Thus you "know" absolutely nothing about tiny things such as atoms and electrons or subatomic particles, and nor does anyone else, nor could anyone else possibly have any direct immediate personal apprehension of them, you agree?"
-You can not state that while using a device and an internet connection which both are based on that exact knowledge mate.....Again you are confusing Absolute Knowledge (a red herring, one more fallacy) with Knowledge. Knowledge is not absolute, it evolves along with our observations. Science being the most reliable type of knowledge makes that clear. Knowledge is an evaluation term we apply on our current claims about the world. We use facts(information) and establish a narrative. If this narrative is compatible with our current facts and produces more knowledge predictions and technical applications then we evaluate it as KNOWLEDGE. This is really simple mate.
-"Perhaps you don't understand the difference between knowledge and information."
-I am sure I explained twice your error on this. Information=facts , Knowledge=Instrumentally valuable narrative of those facts.
-"Self-evidently nobody can "know" anything about the past because it is not possible to directly immediately personally apprehend anything whatsoever about the past or the future (which is a dream)"
-Self evidently Forensic Science renders your claim wrong. Self evidently scientific theories are frameworks that offer accurate predictions based on studying the past.I think we are good for now.
the more we realize how less we know
@@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 that is a vague deepity. The perimeter of our ignorance is relative to the circle of our knowledge. We can not realize what we don't know without realizing what we already know.
If we were then asked if the Philosopher's God perfectly describe our Theistic God (The God of our Religion) then we are just attempting to rationalize his existence. But if our Theistic God is invented then neither is true because both are products of the human mind. If there's a God, I would never limit God to reasoning and justification but also never underestimate the creativity of the human mind. If many religions exist and the fact that there are several legends and myths and also moral lessons that can be drawn through literature, one might think that it is man who created God not the other way around. Institutions forming doctrines and creed are possible even with a fake God. If people are explaining this and that but at the end arrived at a mystery then that's for rhetoric. Because we all know that truth is not a mystery. I love the questioning. Great interview on Mr. John Hick.
John Hick: "There are a lot of different religions out there, they seem to contradict each other, they all seem to be equally productive of good people and saintliness!"
Very true sir, but I guess you missed one point there: religions have also been capable of bringing a lot of misery, torture, wars and other atrocities upon humans throughout the history!
Institutionally atheist regimes - political systems where adherence to a religious deity is punishable by imprisonment or death - have killed over 100 million in the last century alone. This adheres to the belief in fallen man, whereas atheist inspired death is consistent with the belief in people as machines, and as such, disposable. There's always the No True Scotsman get out, that they were the wrong kind of atheist.
@@borderlands6606 that has no effect on the person's claim. If 100 million people died "due to athiesm" then 1 billion people have died in history due to religion.
What's the point in making it a numbers, us-vs-them, game?
Atheistic regimes don’t murder people because the regimes are atheist. They murder them because they’re dictatorships, just as religious dictatorships do.
@@melgross exactly, dogmatic ideology is the problem. The belief itself or lack thereof is almost irrelevant to the capacity of it's followers to commit atrocities.
@@melgross Yes, I think Christopher Hitchens said that North Korea is the most religious state, it wants people to praise their leader day and night. I think most people forget "atheist regimes" do not centre their ideologies on atheism, but on things like communism or authoritarianism. In that sense any regime which focuses on absolute power is religious (There is a distinction between being theist and being religious).
God is an ideal . A concept . The idea of perfection and something of which values to live up to. Physics , the interplay of cause and effect and how it plays out is the only inherent ultimate omniscience
God is not just creator but, also creation
God lives in the heart of every living thing
There is nothing other than God
If I think there is anything other than God, that reflects on inability of my mind to perceive the oneness of everything
God is not living in the heart of every living thing, that is plaque.
Proof it
Yes. You understand. Bless you.
@@KeithCooper-Albuquerque You are it Keith. We are it. Illusion of separation was engineered from the start. The reason? Love my brother.
Jusst Googled John Hick and seen that he died in February 2012. RIP fella, I'll be following your work posthumously.
With questions like this, you ain't gonna get anywhere closer to truth
Lol....true.
That is true. In the beginning there were no questions. There was only God not wanting to be alone. Now God has questions. But God is no longer alone.
outstanding series. great questions and world’s best thinkers on these issues. i really like polkingham’s “process theology” notion of an open future, ie, God does not know the future. but i wonder if this is too much a view of God bound by time, which is a constituitive element of our physical universe, but what about the universe (multiverse) beyond or outside of time, and God’s relationship to that bigger picture? Time itself is a problematic aspect to cosmology, in my thinking
I’ve never understood how someone can claim God is unfathomable while earning a living explaining him to people. 🤷♂️
Some scientists earn a living through science - and through teaching science - while also admitting that they don't understand the totality of the scientific and physical world.
It's possible to understand bits of the whole, even when other bits elude.
Who's explaining? Searching...that's the game
I've never understood how Einstein and Hawking can be
wrong on important theories and still hold onto their tenures.
Nobody has ever claimed to explain god; nobody of good intent that is. Cult leaders and evildoers, like those who claim to contact the dead (for a large fee) prey on the gullible. The spirit of enquiry drives the Closer to Truth series; where is the person explaining god? I must have missed that part!
@@thetoddlanders1992 I refuse to use anything I couldn't make myself from scratch. You wanna see my car and the clothes I wear! And don't get me started on the food proplem..OMG!!😂
It makes sense for God to be a Person, rather than some nebulous concept or karma force. If God we mean the greatest of all entities, then Personhood is greater than non-personhood. God communicates to us about himself and reality as a Person. It makes total sense.
Infinite Gods,Just different level of conciousness.i believe.Knowing makes the level of conciousness.The more knowledgable the higher the level of conciousness.Auto update mode.That is why different gods came on earth at different times as per requirement.
Well knowledge is not the only parameter for more advanced conscious states. Critical thinking, social wisdom, empathy, memory, experiences etc are some of the mind properties needed for elevated conscious states. The extent of brain connectivity is a huge parameter for the quality of our conscious states.
Psalm 🙏 83:18
If you always do something perfect and everyone applauds you. You don't know how great it is until you can't do it anymore. And so the absolute and it's need to know itself. Created this existence positive negative update on left. Right, happy, sad. So you could experience both and when you go home to the absolute.You'll know it for the first time.How wonderful it is to be absolutely
Wow that is the most incomprehensible twaddle
What is what?
Were is were?
Who is who?
Why is why?
These Are Just Some Of The Question's That May Never Be answered, And If Answered,
May Not Be The Answer We Want To Hear...
Ain't Life But A Dream!!.
Answer is - capitalism. Humans are basically capitalists. Now go and view history from that prism.
@@MarketOracleTV Wrong Answer..
Next.
Because what is and can only be what... Until what is defined...
So also who, where and why, they are mysteries that tries to find a definition for certain things or events.
Life is Self. Self is different so not to be alone.
John Hick has my vote.
Whatever it was, Nietzsche reckons we killed it.
The pride of man is infinite! God is not explicable or possibly understood.
Philosophers and theologian should ask the animals about God,they know,yet they ignore God and live their life without making war!
For me God is a feeling in our heart!
God is something people have created in order to give sense to the world and meaning to life.
God is like the movie screen
Universe is like the movie
Without screen there is no movie
And the screen is unmoved by the rollercoaster ride of the movie
"What is Is God." Ramana Maharshi
Awareness is known by awareness alone.
@tanon You would be more correct if you said, it doesn't have to be thought about.
Thinking about it is an obstruction to it for you.
@@aug2890 *Never believe what a religious person says
So Ramana Maharishi is God...lol...or are you quoting him?
Awareness is not a thing that does anything.
Awareness is a mental ability product of a biological process(brain function).
Being aware allow us to identify things in existence.
Existence is primary. In order to be aware of us and the things around us they all must first exist.
@tanon Do you know you are hungry without having to think about it?
Do you have to think about it before you breathe.
A baby is aware virtually from Day 1 ( maybe even in the womb) long before the brain has developed a thinking capacity.
To know precedes thought. Awareness is Being and the world is It 'awaring'.
The only substance which is ( and is it a substance ?), is Awareness.
All of You, must understand the basic reality, that the Being, and the Ability of the Being, is two sides of the Eternal Life, which in it's own eternal nature is name-less, and also have no meaning, as is a part of the creation.
Nobody really knows God, but if he is real then he must exist in higher dimension where the laws of physics are entirely different from ours.
The word "God" is a sound some people make when they really mean "I don't know."
@USA TAMONDOMUNI nice copy and paste shame you didn’t actually provide a definition
Science is how God is why. They are just different questions
@Olivia Maynard
A Jewish American Derrick Feinman asked God to guide him to the correct religion that is accepted by God, please watch this video how God answered this man supplication it was a miracle in the broad daylight, this video is posted by Derrick Feinman himself on his channel with video title: "Derrick Feinman How Islam Found Me: My Conversion to Islam" Channel name is Derrick Feinman.
No third person or middle man in this story between a believer and God.
@Olivia Maynard
It was an identical miracle reported by an corporal in marine went to Afghanistan, but God had different plan for this corporal and God converted him to Islam, it was a miracle in the broad daylight, how God guides to whom HE wills, feel free to watch.
Video titled on YT is "AFTER COMBAT - THE STORY OF A MARINE'S CONVERSION TO ISLAM".
channel named: Nick E.
9:22 nice try on the old switch on the onus of proof. The onus is on sir - the theist, to define which god you believe in. And then the onus is also on you to prove that god is real, not only to atheists but particularly to other theists who believe in a different god that, according to you, is false. Not only you are incapable of proving that your god is real, you can't prove that all those other gods you reject are false.
This guy wouldn't believe in God without Jesus. Pretty narrow minded and quite obvious when you listen to him. My Bible says that Jesus was human not God. Any proof of that? "Father. Why have you forsaken me?" Would God doubt in himself?
The evidence paradox is always in play. If God is a serial killer, are you willing to "Die For Proof?" I think not old son. Hence Jesus won that which had never been won before, eternal life for himself and two billion consent decrees for individuals seeking continuity of consciousness. You don't make demands of GOD. He sets a price and you either meet it or walk away, if he doesn't kill you on the spot, as a false god. Are you GOD?
Proof is proof upon itself.
21:00 "what good is God who can't help us when our mortality should come to pass? "
Better would have been that eastern viewpoint could have been included.
Right! Planning for 2021/2022
@@robertlawrencekuhn4483 would be very interesting having a talk with sadghuru
He has very interested views on religion
@@kootdirker2448 No. He's in it for money.
God is the sum of the natural and physical laws of the universe and certainly not an individual entity or creator.
I'm baffled by humans' need for "god". There are more productive pursuits which can help our fellow creatures on earth, humans and non.
All humans seek a higher power, the supernatural. Atheists have even come up with a joke called spiritual atheism, they crave for a connection with the immaterial. The human nature testifies against materialism and the phrase survival of the fittest.
@effinghamhick "you know, intuitively that God exists"???
What an oxymoron.
We know that intuition is far far less credible than knowledge. Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman made that clear by his awarded work on heuristics.(with Amos Tversky)
@@mohammedjafferali693 Secular spirituality has nothing to do with the search of a higher power(whatever that means).
As Sean Carroll says, Poetic Naturalism is nothing more than our ability to experience feelings without the need to believe in magic.
@@mohammedjafferali693 Bless you my brother.
It is difficult to accept that all this is Self isn't it? That's why...
At long last someone who broadcast the truth!! Very inspirational and the truth!! Thanks for you refreshing channel!!
how do you determine what is true?
"What God don't you believe in?" Yours. Every time. So tell me. Why do you believe and why should I believe?
@@antilaw9911 I think that the don't just fear "hell". Their existential anxiety forces them to accept any available death denying ideology. This is why we can witness the rise of new age woo and all the relative idealistic bs about consciousness and awareness and energies.
Most dudes can not accept that this party has an end due to the expiration date of their biology.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 do you not have ANY existential death anxiety?
@@ForOrAgainstUs having existential anxieties is one thing. Accepting irrational stories to ease them is an other.
Came across this website - www.doesgodexistandbeyond.com/evidenceoftheresurrection/ investigates Christianity with Reason and Logical Evaluation. And explains Proven Biblical Manuscript History ( Historiography ) -
www.doesgodexistandbeyond.com/manuscriptevidenceofthebiblepages/ Also answers skeptic accusations Examining Primary Evidences and Sources. Worth a read.
@@carlwebstern5065 Sorry, I read through some (not all, at all) and the main problem I have is that in order to accept any arguments, Christians throw in these giant faith balls. From the web site: "By doing this, he paid the ransom for all the sins of mankind on himself,
and by the shedding of his blood and his death, he had become that Sin."
Christians have the problem of having such a complicated theology that they don't know what first principles look like. To be honest, when people say "Jesus died for your sins" I have no idea what that means. I was raised and confirmed Catholic, and I have no idea what that means. To me, all that says is that if I accept Jesus (whatever that means) that I'll go to Heaven, but the crux of the argument is that I should be scared enough to figure out what it means, and if I don't figure it out I might as well lie to myself and tell people I know what it means, because I sure as hell want to go to Heaven.
If someone could for once explain what "Jesus died for your sins" actually means and how that's supposed to psychologically and emotionally affect me, I'll at least have a piece of the puzzle.
That website is not a place to go for arguments. It's a sermon.
Food for Thought 👍👍
But, questions can never end...
a) If You find the most/last fundamental particle... the very next question will be..."From where this last fundamental particle came?"
b) If You find God... the very next question will be..."From where God came?"
c) If You say this last fundamental particle/God existed always.... the next questions will be...
"Who/Which rule decided that the God is to be good/powerful/one etc. (Why not many Gods/less powerful God/evil God)"
"Which rule decided that the last fundamental particle will have these properties only, which it will possess...why not some different properties?"
"How can an immaterial God make something material? What is the process behind this conversion?"
What is the energy source of an immaterial thing by which it can sustain?
etc.
etc.
Therefore in spirituality/Yoga they say that we should focus on achieving Supreme Happiness (Happiness/Bliss that never goes away).
Even if we find everything in the universe, ultimately we will achieve satisfaction/happiness.
So, they say don't give much importance to knowledge (because questions can never end)...but give importance to the path which leads you to a state of default/supreme happiness, which once achieved never ever goes away..
God is nothing but this state. Once we achieve this state, they say, we are no different from God...then, we become God.
That guy likes to say postulate alot
Yup, just like Hawking loved to say “singularity” over & over, and Kurzweil loves to say “exponential” 1,000 times a day..... for these type of people, saying a cool sounding intellectual word over & over & over becomes like a ‘trademark’ for them - makes them seem clever and super smart.
God IS truth, therefore “he” is real. The question, for me, isn’t whether he’s personal but whether i must follow him to find joy. This is religion. Compare mainstream Gods And you’ll see the personification of reality. See how society seeks for joy in escaping reality while spiritual or religious practice seeks it in loving truth (god).
"Could the real Creator ever be really weak?" - What reality?
the reality of physical impressions.
@@nickolasgaspar9660 You are a big time fool if you think that reality is made of physical impressions. I can assure you that reality is not made of physical impressions. I dont what you are thinking but you are mistake about what reality is =D Oh, my dear Nickolas - you are such a fool =D And I say this with the all love in my heart =D God bless you mate =D
by 2036, there must be a man who should be capable of answering your question. wait till...then. how old are you? and what is your name /from?
God is a product of human mind.
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The ‘creator’ - along with its reasons for creating whatever it creates (how, where, when & with what materials, etc) - is another thing.
There simply is absolutely no information on these issues, so avoid all hubris & just admit WE DON’T KNOW !!!!
The information is in the bible
I hope to God a part of me lives forever.
🤦🏾♂️ he created it with his WORD! He spoke and it was done! He creates the universe for his glory and the earth to be a habitation for his creatures!..all this is in the bible!!
@@jayrodriguez84 : The Information is in the Vedic Scriptures.
Came across this website - www.doesgodexistandbeyond.com/evidenceoftheresurrection/ investigates Christianity with Reason and Logical Evaluation. And explains Proven Biblical Manuscript History ( Historiography ) -
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The search is endless to find truth. Reality is always just beyond our grasp. As we approach it expands. We are left within our being of consciousness to contemplate...how to know the unknowable.
step 1 - ditch god.
What if God was one of us, just a Genius on the Bus 🤔
No . It's my neighbor. When he has sex with his wife, she calls him god....
What if Dog was one of us?
Those would be nice lyrics for a song.
There is that hole in someone's existence that can only be filled by God-consciousness, that is what brought up this Question since the beginning of humanity.
"hole in someone's existence" ---
The often repeated phrase is a useful metaphor for practical intuition. It does not however reflect classical theology and is quite contrary to it.
Why doesn’t god speak for himself? Could it be that believers are wrong?
BRAVOO!!!!! You destroyed theism, you are the most intelligent being ever
What makes you think he hasn't? Could it be you wouldn't listen if he did?
@@TheWorldTeacher Still spouting your moronic nonsense? Don't you have anything better to do?
Hi there.. I'm a god.
@@TheWorldTeacher Those who do not know what they are talking about write long, long, worthless gobbledegook.
God is what you define him to be.
"This is my body, eat it with marinara sauce." The gospel of The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
A material world in which everything is lost, and in which those who suffer have only one chance, is too dismal to contemplate - I hope there's a God.
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Before the Big Bang，God used to live in a nut. He felt stressed，then he created the universe.
Now everything comes from a nut -- human cat fish chiken trees .
As long as wars continue to come, Humans will continue to Believe. Wars are based on a certain conviction, a certain belief
The more I listen to these guys the less they make any sort of sense!
Which of the guys make no sense to you ?
The sciencetise turned priest is the moron who can't remember his training in science , That's the stupidest one
@@dogwithwigwamz.7320 These "philosophers" of religion and theologians!
@@keithdunham8139 and that orthodox priest who says we should ask "who is God?" I guess he hasn't updated his windows in the last 500 years!
The problem with all these ideas about god is that they are just what happens to appeal to that person. They are what that individual thinks makes sense at that time, and they’re all different, and in many cases mutually contradictory. They are very clearly just what that person dreamed up, or came across and latched on to. Hick gets closest by assuming an ultimate divinity behind all these different religious viewpoints, but makes a fundamental error. He says that atheists don’t consider personal religious experience. That’s flat out not true, and as a professional theologian he must know that. Atheists simply think that religious experience is a neurological process. That’s all there is to it. Take that away and there’s just nothing left in theology that needs explanation. As Kuhn says in another video, and I paraphrase, all these different ideas about god, with no way to choose between them other than personal preference, is exactly what you’d expect if they were all made up.
God is an imaginary thing created in the mind of humans. Man has created many gods all over the world since day 1. Man has also created big foot and flying saucers controlled by little green men. There is no limit the man's imagination.
Even you were created by man. Go figure.
Perhaps we are even imagining that we are separate so not to be alone....
I remember the notion of a theologian about the personality of God. He said that God is certainly not less than personal. He seems to have meant that God has for instance something like willpower or that he can be adressed and is capable of adressing human beeings. Moreover it is a common understanding in christian theology that all human speech about God can only be understood as analogous.
If a man were to worship and nurture a tree, and prayed every day for that tree to bear him fruit for consumption, and that tree did bear him good fruit: Then that tree would be his god. Since the tree is real and existing that would mean that his god is a real and existing god.
Christians worship the Supreme God which is, ‘the cause of all creation’. Love of Christ in our hearts leads to community’s prayers which are answered with blessings including prosperity. The Holy Spirit gives us moral strength and is recognized as the Christian communities guiding influence.
From a science perspective; ‘the cause of all creation’, originates from the laws of Nature. Social morals and ethics give rise to a stable society capable of social endeavors. In addition, Emotional Intelligent is responsible for the needed communication in any complex social environment.
From a scientific viewpoint the worshiped Christian God is a real and existing Supreme God. Sustaining the universe, this all-powerful, present and knowing God is described by the Laws of Nature. The included source of All -Good is made evident when the Laws of Nature are used solely for the benefit of man’s survival and prosperity. The Holy Spirit accommodates this process of moral goodness and advanced communication.
With this understanding, Atheism is no longer considered rational as there is now scientific evidence for the opposite view. It must be said that this view of God is not the regular supernatural view of God since science does not associate with the supernatural. With this understanding the Christian God is a real, existing God; Not supernatural. It is the lack of knowledge of the natural universe that has led to the terms, ‘supernatural’ and ‘miraculous’, to explain the unknown.
Many Believers will not comprehend or endorse this view of a non-supernatural supreme God. Regardless, science evidence reveals that, 'Worshiping Christ which is in your heart leads to answered prayers'.
Thanks Mr. Kuhn these are great videos. As my late Granma would say "thanks be to God."
It blows my mind every time I wake up that we humans still in 2022 don’t know how we got here and from where and how it all began before it all started and where we go when we die. I hope there is a God and I continue to hope for the afterlife. With all we have accomplished with technology etc we still don’t know.
When people say there is a devine purpose to things they really mean is a Devine Purpose. Devine Purpose means Don't ask what the purpose is.
Devine purpose: God wants to be known and loved. He reveails himaelf by his actions which can be observable by means of science throughout the Universe.
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One Lord, one faith and one baptism.
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The God who created this infinite universe did not subject mercy and salvation upon crime against humanity in the killing blameless man of God i.e. Jesus(pbuh).
Jesus was saved from humiliation, torture, nakedness on the cross and near death ordeal, which Christians don't like it.
Just cause hes concerned with his creation doesnt make him vulnerable!! There is no weakness in the Lord!!
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Yes, imaginary things are whatever we imagine them to be.
God is all knowing he knows the future. He's not affected by time space for matter
God is created. Humans have been asking God questions for millennia and seem to be none the wiser. That should tell you something. The question for me is, "since I'm here, what should I do with my brief life?" Whatever guidelines and philosophies help me to accomplish that, I go with those.
have you ever played a video game for first time? how do you come to know what need to done in that game (assuming no direct sign or help provided)?
i give you hint, what I am supposed to do in this life is goal one of this game.
2nd question: did you achieve that goal or purpose? you achieve/completed that goal game completed.
if failed, game over start again.
We will always be close to the truth but never know " The Truth "
"the God, no God question is so central to human life." In my opinion, I don't think most people ponder God's existence. So even though this question is very important to Robert, I don't see the centrality of God's existence to be a fixation for the vast majority of people today.
I differ, I'm certain people ponder his existence..as much as they wonder where we came from!!
As an atheist the issue of God is a frequent subject of my thoughts. How do people think of God, what is they're use of language, their unspoken assumptions. What are they getting out of it?