How to: Battery Terminal Install. Better than Factory.

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    Watch until the end for a tip you'll want to see. You may also want to add a crimp for extra grip on the wire.
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  • @joemelton81
    @joemelton81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Great for stationary circuits. In most vehicles and aircraft the wires are subject to vibration and a quality crimp allows the wire to remain flexible. The solder joint creates a stiff point in the strands that can fatigue and break over time.

    • @gtcam723
      @gtcam723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same for maritime applications

    • @TheBluegoatman
      @TheBluegoatman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have hand crimped thousands of these working in the semi truck parts business. 99.9% of those mechanics wouldn't consider a solder joint nor would they have time. With the addition of a small heat shrink tube it makes the crimp joint nearly impervious.

    • @nnnnnnnnnick5557
      @nnnnnnnnnick5557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Come to think of it, maybe he knows this and is just doing it for views

    • @scottdowney4318
      @scottdowney4318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gtcam723 My 1970 EggHarbor 37, OEM 2/0 wires have all the lugs soldered on. They then wrapped it with black electrical tape. In 50 years, it never overheated and fell apart. Mostly though I agree the crimped cables are technically superior. Other thing is these large cables are very naturally stiff, a small hard spot in the end from solder has no effect on it breaking. Not in my experience. I have also made some of my own copper lugs from small sections of copper pipe. Made them to look like typical lugs, but have also simply put the copper tube 2 inches onto the striped wire, then used a 3 lb sledge hammer to smash them together. Drill a 3/8 hole in the end and sometimes solder sealed the end only. Now of course if your going to stack lugs, might be an issue cause the lugs you make that way will be 2 to 3 times thick where the stud bolts on. I have also used a tubing flare tool to crimp copper tubing onto wires. Works amazingly well, tighten it down and smash the flare tool with a sledge hammer. May have to rotate the crimp in the flare tool and hit it a few times. This can work very well if the copper tubing is a close fit for the wire gauge. If the copper tube is slightly too small for the wire gauge, you can heat the copper to anneal the tube, then run a drift into it with a hammer to expand it, then use it for the crimp. I did that recently for a 6 gauge wire and 1/4 copper tubing crimp.

    • @scottdowney4318
      @scottdowney4318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheBluegoatman Yes well that is a business. My time is my own time. heatshrink is a good idea. Also sealing the copper to the wire with tape first, then heat shrink is better. Truth is get this, blue painters tape, wrap a few turns around the joint, then heat shrink seals the water out. I find it better than black vinyl electric tape which over time leaks out this stick goo and it also fails to stick. And you can get adhesive lined heat shrink tubing, for a price... Anyway the blue painters tape actually holds up for years and years. Many wires in the past had paper liners under the insulation, same idea using paper tape, but not masking tape, that is no good.

  • @fadajuiceful
    @fadajuiceful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Nothing beats the good old hydraulic crimper

  • @dana.8311
    @dana.8311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Crimping is resistant to heat. It tends to hold the cable in place even at a high temperature. Soldered connection tends to loosen up if your cable heats up.

    • @Riverrockphotos
      @Riverrockphotos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes and if it shorts it will melt that solder faster than shit through a goose.

    • @VictorSilva-rq4kz
      @VictorSilva-rq4kz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Plumbing technique and materials should not be used for electical connections.

    • @aedgvv6095
      @aedgvv6095 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it's a bad job for solder in the engine bay it will break up but he is using a different type of solder into solder needs more heat than a RadioShack heat gun

    • @viktor_1939_
      @viktor_1939_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct!

    • @user-ir2zv1xx5q
      @user-ir2zv1xx5q 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍

  • @tomcox2490
    @tomcox2490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That is a good way to develop a cold solder joint and to ensure the premature failure of your cables. If you want to have solid cables buy the correct crimp tool and do it the right way or pay to have it done. Good luck with that.

  • @briansaid1730
    @briansaid1730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Presto, now u have a cold solder joint sure to fail since the cable was not heated sufficiently. Be sure to crimp 1st, then solder for rope heating, resulting in reliability and avoiding cold solder failures.

    • @KarimGabra
      @KarimGabra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not To mention that crimping provides less resistance than Solder due to copper being a better conductor

    • @pedrorojascervantes3928
      @pedrorojascervantes3928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree. Crimp & then solder.

    • @balisongsnbeats.9219
      @balisongsnbeats.9219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@pedrorojascervantes3928 you both are incorrect there's no need to solder after a hydraulic crimp it already creates a fusion cold weld

    • @hiepbui1535
      @hiepbui1535 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tuyệt vời

    • @diwiak
      @diwiak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes wanted to say same and solder can contaminate copper which will lead to oxidizing and corrosion. IMO mechanical crimping is the best way, can be done with heavy hammer and dull chisel.

  • @TheCentralflorida
    @TheCentralflorida 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm so glad to see videos like this. People need to know exactly what NOT to do. Thank you!

  • @jamescole2314
    @jamescole2314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Plumbing solder is generally acid core and you don't want to use acid core on electric connections.

    • @eminence_front6043
      @eminence_front6043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My thoughts also.

    • @nnnnnnnnnick5557
      @nnnnnnnnnick5557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah don't use plumbing solder for electrical connections lol. He should've used the right solder. It will crack inside over time and probably other issues too

    • @sanguinemoon9201
      @sanguinemoon9201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You are correct that acid core will cause corrosion that will make that cable useless. There will likely be 6-8 inches of corrosion in less than a year. Not good.

    • @blacksquirrel4008
      @blacksquirrel4008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Don’t think that was acid core, just straight solder.

    • @southlakelife
      @southlakelife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Plumbing solder is not acid core.

  • @henmich
    @henmich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I learned years ago, crimped joints won't break from vibration, but solder jionts absolutely will.. made me rethink a lot of my projects...

    • @bowez9
      @bowez9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is not what NASA has proved, or perfers.

    • @henmich
      @henmich 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bowez9source?

    • @borysnijinski331
      @borysnijinski331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@henmich NMEA recommendation is to crimp. Industry best practice (Google it) also recommends crimp.

  • @sethcarlson7616
    @sethcarlson7616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Throw some heat shrink on there, it'll look really pro then.👍

    • @zoobrizz
      @zoobrizz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Grow up. It’s fine

    • @malcommooney8086
      @malcommooney8086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      right on with the shrink tube, i been doing it too, customers like it and coment on it as well

    • @sethcarlson7616
      @sethcarlson7616 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barryross1191 sure

    • @kcb5336
      @kcb5336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barryross1191
      You don’t understand soldering.

    • @SimpleGreen2017
      @SimpleGreen2017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barryross1191 100% on the heat shrink tubing if using solder connections. Working in the marine field, any bare wire exposed to moisture can and will corrode.

  • @closure4791
    @closure4791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Hey so, in addition to the acid core issue, solder is higher resistance than copper crimped onto copper, which kinda matters a lot when you're making a big fat cable to handle lots of amps. Your voltage drop on this cable will be higher than if it were just a properly crimped connector. This is just not a good idea all around.

  • @42phaedrus
    @42phaedrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A good test is to measure and compare voltage drop over the cables under heavy load. I would also recommend twisting the copper strands before crimping and then solder after crimping.
    This will give you the strongest and lowest resistance joint.

  • @ccroson7935
    @ccroson7935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I do snow plowing for a while and that’s exactly what I did in the beginning but after about two years the ends would get corroded and fall off or stop making good connection then I went to a professional crimp and the crap is way better with Heat shrink tubing that’s the best way

    • @bowez9
      @bowez9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Corroding due to environmental reasons (salts and water, dissimilar metals, H2So4 gas) and your new cables have protection from heat shrink and I bet coatings too.

  • @jasonbrown467
    @jasonbrown467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    all the videos i have watched on this topic, you are the first one to say to use solder. everyone else seems to think its a bad idea with soders low melting point

    • @kennethnevel3263
      @kennethnevel3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      If that wire ever gets hot enough to melt the solder , there will be much bigger things wrong .

    • @njineermike
      @njineermike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kennethnevel3263

    • @LV_CRAZY
      @LV_CRAZY 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@njineermike Soldering is allowed by code in electrical work but isn't commonly used because it takes too much time and labor.

    • @njineermike
      @njineermike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LV_CRAZY Depends on the usage.

    • @harryrenner3001
      @harryrenner3001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If the wire end gets hot enough to melt the solder. then you have a bad connection at the wire end. or possibly too much load caused by a faulty starter. providing it's in a starting circuit. on a good connection it should never get hot enough to melt the solder.

  • @kenthecat4769
    @kenthecat4769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There's a very good reason why high current leads in high-power applications such as MRI are crimped - solder is very poor at resisting fatigue. Crimped cables are made that way to resist billions of operation cycles or oscillations, soldered joints begin to fail far more quickly. I can't think of a single plug or receptacle on a car that isn't crimped from the factory, and it's not just because it's cheaper than soldering.

  • @guntherpommer6433
    @guntherpommer6433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Used to do the same but not anymore. Will losen when heated o break due to bending fatigue. Crimping far safer!

  • @foxone7776
    @foxone7776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Soldered connector is easly to broke when wire is often bending and streching... clamping connector is better in thic case.

    • @bowez9
      @bowez9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In that case metal fatigue would sent in an would fail no matter what, either the cable, crimp, or connection.

  • @dominicm2175
    @dominicm2175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In the cell phone site industry the engineers specify using Kopr Sheild and crimping. In the boating industry the connections must always be crimped. Although this may look good it would fail most inspections and the solder would absolutely melt under a high current load and the connection would almost certainly fail.

  • @rustyaxelrod
    @rustyaxelrod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    In the military I was trained to strip wires with a razor blade just as you did here, even much smaller wires. I still do it that way. You can put the blade in a pin vice and leave it protruding the thickness of the insulation, lay the wire on the blade, press with your finger and rotate the wire. It cuts the insulation perfectly without nicking the conductor. The only other option we were allowed to use was thermal strippers. This isn’t very practical for one wire but if you get the procedure down, it works quick and is really handy for multiple wires.

    • @philgray1023
      @philgray1023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brillant idea. Complète pain when dealing with expensive cables and you nick one of the inner wire's insulation.

    • @Boreamear
      @Boreamear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a 25yr sparkie, I've never used a safety razor blade, the last 20yrs I haven't used a utility knife. A well kept splicers knife or edc pocket knife is actually preferred for higher voltage or amperage. Not going to knock the military members, but the training they give you sucks. 2 trips to Afghanistan as a civ to fix wiring done by our military.

    • @rustyaxelrod
      @rustyaxelrod 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Boreamear- Gotcha, That sound like bigger stuff than what I deal with. 22-16ga typically the smaller end of that range. Zero stretch allowed on the insulation, zero nicks on the conductors. Inspected and “bought off” by an inspector typically with a 10x magnifier. I’m sure none of my work has been redone because of quality.

    • @HazyTown01
      @HazyTown01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always used electricians scissors. It was always the fastest way for me to strip wires.

  • @thawolff
    @thawolff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A wise old man showed me that years ago but he used the lead from an old battery terminal works great and you give no one anything to complain about.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @j.r7872
    @j.r7872 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brother, your videos are amazing.
    Thank you for sharing!!!

  • @phillpescola2729
    @phillpescola2729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Only thing rosin core solder is the only one for electrical use

  • @lawnpro979
    @lawnpro979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    having made several of them, I will remove the flange on the outter part of the connector, install a heat shrink to cover the transhion from the wire to the connector, No Biggie, it just makes it look better,,,,, Thanks for your post

  • @mrfixer987
    @mrfixer987 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video. I'm building a solar battery system for my van. The van build guys are saying to cold weld/crimp rather than solder.

  • @pu2u2ao
    @pu2u2ao 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Iow temp solder if cable heats up it will fail must be crimped for safty

    • @doitmyself6377
      @doitmyself6377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Crimp first then fill gaps with solder to prevent oxidation.

    • @stevendavies3563
      @stevendavies3563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A crimp is a mechanical connection 👍. Belt and braces 👍

    • @milanmilicevic4618
      @milanmilicevic4618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you solder anything its become solid, If you try to move that copper wire, It will brake little by little. Crimping connectors with RIGHT tool, will do the job.

    • @bowez9
      @bowez9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@milanmilicevic4618 only if it vibrates and is held perfectly rigid. With a slight amount of slack the oscillations can not propagate, have you ever tried to push a chain.

    • @borysnijinski331
      @borysnijinski331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bowez9 you assume only the wire vibrates and wire has stiffness so vibrations are transmitted to connection.

  • @markive9907
    @markive9907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All this time I’ve been okie crimping ! Great fix 👍

    • @dodgeme1986truck
      @dodgeme1986truck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crimp before soldering just soldering is a no go the solder is electrically resistive and will heat up during high current loading (60+amps) and can melt causing a partial connection causing additional heating and full failure possibly even starting the wire insulation on fire. Crimping first prevents this possibility... My trick is I take an engineers hammer place the connector on a hard flat surface with the cable and flux already inserted give a good wack or 2 to the terminal socket crimping it solidly (my crimps are strong enough that either the cable or the terminal eye will fail when pulled across the crimp(had a guy test one when he pulled an engine I had replaced the cable on 5yrs prior and forgot to remove the engine to chassis ground cable I made actually picking the front end of the 91 Dodge d350(1ton diesel) from the ground by that OO gauge copper cable). Then I give it some electrical solder and sleeve it with 2 layers of marine electical shrink tubing shorter piece first covering the connection second overlaps the ends of the first and reinforces/protects the connection from flexing (the marine grade heat shrink tubing contains a heat set epoxy that adds an extra layer of water penetration protection). This is the proper way to make a professional battery cable eye connection. (However because it takes too long most mechanics don't do this heck you're lucky if they don't use the cheap non permanent/temporary use clamp on battery cable ends).

  • @frankammirati3385
    @frankammirati3385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I do both crimp first than soldier , this way if anything ever happens and the soldier should ever get to hot for whatever reason you still have a crimp .

  • @andhitch85
    @andhitch85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To get the professional crimp on a lug use the correct size lug for the cable and the correct type of crimper usually crimped two or more times to maximise surface area contact between the wire and lug.

    • @Charlemagne1367
      @Charlemagne1367 ปีที่แล้ว

      But what if you only need a couple of crimps for a small basic off grid solar system ?

  • @alale923
    @alale923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im a union commercial plumber and im mind blown rn. This is how ill be doing my cables from now on. Thank you!

    • @ssnerd583
      @ssnerd583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      BUT DO NOT USE THAT DAMNED SOLDER OR THE FLUX!!! ITS THE WRONG KIND FOR ELECTRICAL CABLES AND WILL CAUSE MASSIVE CORROSION!!! YOU MUST USE 'ELECTRICAL' SOLDER!!! AND NO NEED FOR THE FLUX IF YOU CLEAN THE INSIDE IF THE TERMINAL CUP WITH A BRASS BRUSH OR A GREEN SCRUBY PAD!!!
      I HAVE BEEN MAKING BATTERY RELOCATION HARNESSES FOR 20 YEARS AND I HAVE MADE HUNDREDS, AND THIS IS THE WRONG SOLDER AND FLUX BEING USED HERE!!!

    • @alale923
      @alale923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ssnerd583 thank you for that heads up

  • @HunterCO1
    @HunterCO1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow you’re a rocket scientist I have done that for over 30 years as an auto tech! I just use a vice though instead of that bullshit you used!

  • @Grizzleback07
    @Grizzleback07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I crimp and then solder my connections just in case the solder happens to break or melt for some strange reason. Just a back up measure.

    • @sportfisher7
      @sportfisher7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YEP

    • @mattlaskey782
      @mattlaskey782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Solder will break. It make the connection rigid and susceptible to cracking from vibration.

    • @IRDeezlSmoke
      @IRDeezlSmoke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Had that happen. I too crimp, then soldier.

    • @newjargon1697
      @newjargon1697 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah agreed.

    • @Adrianyoutubing
      @Adrianyoutubing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not supposed to solder crimps.

  • @IraChandler
    @IraChandler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    PLUMBING SOLDER IS NOT FOR ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS. Also, paste flux is TYPICALLY ACIDIC for plumbing, you want ROSIN FLUX. Do not do what is in this video. Solder is to be used ONLY when there is ALREADY a PHYSICAL connection - as in CRIMP - also, do NOT heat the wire first. DO NOT DO WHAT THIS VIDEO SHOWS.

    • @randynorris6598
      @randynorris6598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Took the words out of my mouth. We're not sweating copper pipe here...

    • @dpz9872
      @dpz9872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think this is just for millennia and Prius.

    • @tonyfontes8935
      @tonyfontes8935 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you for posting your reply. In my mind this seems like a good idea at first but what you said makes much more sense. I am grateful for people like you that take the time to reply with correct information. It just saves a lot of hassle later on.

    • @Georgiaguntraining
      @Georgiaguntraining ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonyfontes8935 Also, we use a wire brush on the inside of the terminal, CRC QD Contact Cleaner to clean the components, and then Deoxit before assembly and crimping to eliminate the corrosion that happens between different copper alloys, and then spray it with CRC 2-26 to protect it. Or, CRC Battery Terminal spray will protect it from moisture and other contaminants.

    • @ACEGAMER120
      @ACEGAMER120 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's crazy how many absolutely terribly DIY repair videos become some of the most viewed

  • @kirstenspencer3630
    @kirstenspencer3630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    OMG, are you using acid core solder ? Acid core will corrode and cause high resistance. Use these techniques with QUALITY electrial solder and you will have a long term repair. Can't tell you how many times I've seen corroded electrial connections due to acid core solder.

    • @edp9743
      @edp9743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rosin core solder for electrical.
      Acid for plumbing.
      Used this technic for years.

  • @bluesteel5841
    @bluesteel5841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Good job, i make my own also. I use copper tubbing. Cut off length then hammer down one end and drill your hole for bolt to go through.. then solder your wire like you did..

    • @samlaska-wolfe6717
      @samlaska-wolfe6717 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have trouble drilling the copper, seems to grab. Any tips?

  • @MacheteBushcraftAustralia
    @MacheteBushcraftAustralia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dude you sound like Steve Buscemi (You don't look anything like him though)!
    Hey I do something similar with 1/2 copper pipe. I still use solder but I usually extend the copper sleeve up the cable and softly hex crimp it. This keeps the cable from bending near weakest spot (the solder joint).
    Thanks for posting this up mate!
    All the best from OZ,
    Ben

    • @Stu-SB
      @Stu-SB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol.. I can hear him right enough..

  • @gravelydon7072
    @gravelydon7072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crimp with a hydraulic crimper, solder to seal it, shrink tubing filled with Vasoline. But that only needs done where you use them directly on Lead Acid batteries. Other places just crimp and shrink tubing.

  • @avsorong3983
    @avsorong3983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is how a youtuber do engineer work, not a trully engineer

  • @grumpystony
    @grumpystony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Motorsports wiring suggest to crimp all connectjon as solder will always have some level of resistance.
    I did it like you sbow in video 10 years ago. The connections loosened. I reheated copper ends and crimped while hot to have a mechanical connection along with the old solder. Helped and connection doesn't get hot anymore.(noticed problem when I touch it and was hot and then noticed it was a bit loose.
    In future I will crimp only.

  • @AubreeGames
    @AubreeGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really interesting. Thank you!

  • @gordonbaxley1583
    @gordonbaxley1583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had a tool just for crimping ends on to cables. With technic shown here, will work, but is doomed for failure from fatigue and corrosion.

  • @Richard-lj8yk
    @Richard-lj8yk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep your cell phone handy for calling a tow truck when your cold solder joint fails.

  • @dirtyroofer3678
    @dirtyroofer3678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I subbed because you created the perfect Jorgensen clamp .

  • @AHMET_AYDINLI
    @AHMET_AYDINLI 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job.
    Congratulations.

  • @josevalencia6359
    @josevalencia6359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good job, it really helps thanks

  • @_binkssake
    @_binkssake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was simple but awesome one

  • @191kieran191
    @191kieran191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Soldering has its specific applications if this is Automotive better of crimping as it allows the cable to flex and not break off at solder joint. Also soldering can cause other issues like higher resistance which is bad if you have a very high load.

  • @rapache1
    @rapache1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for posting

  • @ichmagtee9797
    @ichmagtee9797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never solder powersupply cable. The solder joint can head up and loosen.

  • @evilclown585
    @evilclown585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just learned something new

    • @jasonk795
      @jasonk795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What a bad repair that will fail? Monkey see money do. Do it right or don't do it at all.

  • @Lifeinthewoods99
    @Lifeinthewoods99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a retired high voltage electrian, we never soldered any connections. Connections were either crimped or mechanical or bolted. But in the electronics world, well thats a different story.

  • @tonyr8443
    @tonyr8443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You can't use plumber's solder on battery cable because it has a low melting point, unlike the solid lead terminal connectors made for batteries

    • @jll2k1us
      @jll2k1us 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I doubt the melting point will be an issue, but 63/37 solder would be best just because it's eutectic. It goes completely from liquid to solid at a single temperature. Still, even non-eutectic is OK but the joint must be kept completely still until completely solidified.

    • @zoobrizz
      @zoobrizz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This works

    • @tonyr8443
      @tonyr8443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zoobrizz sure it works but no one dares to try it for their own cars.

    • @ssnerd583
      @ssnerd583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zoobrizz ...WITH THE CORRECT SOLDER AND NO ACID TYPE FLUX!

    • @bowez9
      @bowez9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonyr8443 I have over 15yrs ago without issue, while factory cable rotted.

  • @Apismeliffera
    @Apismeliffera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I solder those types of terminals with a high temperature rosin core electronic solder, no additional flux needed. Don't use plumbers solder or plumbers flux. In high temperature applications as you demonstrated, the insulation will fail before the solder connection does. I'd also recommend using a soldering iron tip on your torch to prevent hitting the terminal with an open flame to help avoid burning the insulation.

  • @VladimirS69
    @VladimirS69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Как же прав был Задорнов

  • @adammartin9935
    @adammartin9935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would advise always crimping this style of connector. No one is going to use it to repel off of a mountain. A crimped connector will hold even if the connector gets too hot due to a poor connection which may become loose over time.

  • @ramsonscreators
    @ramsonscreators 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice and simple

  • @angames8302
    @angames8302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice .like the video..hope u get some more videos

  • @ellsworthurena4795
    @ellsworthurena4795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work

  • @blakedelacruz8456
    @blakedelacruz8456 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t expect to see an Oceanside shirt! Weird you popped up in my suggested - I grew up in south O

  • @Jzzonem
    @Jzzonem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been an electrician for 20 years and yes that connection looks good and will probably work good. I just don't have the time for all that. I have an expensive crimp tool that is probably still rated as more of a permanent connection. Yours looks good though and I wouldn't have any problem installing it, I just would have cut a straight end on the wire before installing. Good work, get a dang utility knife please lol.

    • @studog7851
      @studog7851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really hope you're lying about being an electrician.

    • @Jzzonem
      @Jzzonem 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@studog7851 not at all

    • @Jzzonem
      @Jzzonem 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@studog7851 I gave the video poster his accalaids and said I wouldn't have a problem installing his style. What was it?, the part about I dont have time for it or that a crimp is more of a permanent mechanical connection? Where's the disbelief?

    • @Jzzonem
      @Jzzonem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@studog7851 oh I see what your comment was about the solder material and that this guy is an idiot. I was trying to be diplomatic with the poster and not be too rude. I agree that people who don't know what their doing shouldn't give demonstrations of the wrong way to do something. Most people take these videos with a grain of salt and may still educate themselves before trusting the poster, I hope.

    • @studog7851
      @studog7851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jzzonem Hey Scott, I just have a sure point about people demonstrating poor electrical work on TH-cam, its not responsible and can be deadly. Not sure where you're from but it is illegal to do your own electrical work in my country without a licence and the amount of rubbish on TH-cam and misinformation is not helpful. And it just takes one person to not take advise with a grain on salt. In response to "I wouldn't have any problem installing it". I would not install a cold soldered connection on anything (boat, house, toy car or whatever), and I am not an electrician but as a licensed builder, if I sure this on my job site the sparky would be out on his arse, no question.

  • @bool7994
    @bool7994 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This isnt a bad video overall, i personally prefer a 'cold weld' or a crimp on my battery connections. Whether it be a hammer, vise or plier style of crimper, i always prefer to crimp my copper connections. A proper cold weld can also hold your body weight if done properly. I think your video is good you just overshadow how well a conventional pressed crimp unto a wire can be.

  • @williamduhamel7726
    @williamduhamel7726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The previous owner of my Trans Am decided to switch from side terminals to top but, the +’s have 3 cables and -‘s 2 to the battery. He crammed 2 cables into a single cable. After time it roasted the bcm. I ended up rewiring my starter, fuse box and alt.

  • @WilberWiley
    @WilberWiley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GREAT VIDEO GOOD IDEA THANKS

  • @stevemoore7274
    @stevemoore7274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here is another tip. Hydraulic crimping is the ONLY way to install lugs on power cables. Anything else is resistants getting in way of current flow. This is where you are not getting your money’s worth when the full beans is applied. Voltage drop is the most important thing to watch for. You could actually starve your equipment.

  • @godngunclinger
    @godngunclinger ปีที่แล้ว

    do you have a rope knot/s for lifting the battery keeping it level out of the car?

  • @magnatron7734
    @magnatron7734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid

  • @savage22bolt32
    @savage22bolt32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the great educational video, and a huge thanks for not ruining it with crappy background music while you're talking. I don't know why some people are compelled to add annoying background music throughout their videos.

    • @adobemastr
      @adobemastr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Friend, you and I are twin sons from different mothers; I have commented on many videos exactly the way you did on this one. I despise and detest overpowering, overly loud, inappropriate, and annoying background music in videos like this… Or for any other videos for that matter. Background music is WAY OVERRATED.

    • @savage22bolt32
      @savage22bolt32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adobemastr way cool bro!
      I actually have the text saved so I don't have to type it out every time. Sometimes I make minor mods for a particular video creator. So far I only remember one creator replying to me. He said he has poor command of the English language, & I tried to give him some confidence to give it a try anyway. Best to you, say hi to mom.

  • @kevinwiebe4136
    @kevinwiebe4136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so glad someone finally made a video on this. I've been doing this for years and it always shocks people when I do it this way

    • @jasonk795
      @jasonk795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People are shock because it's not correct. If I seen this done to my car I would never return. Jerry rig everything. True sign of no education. This guy is what we technician call a Shady Tree Mechanic. They give us a bad reputation because they have convinced themselves that they know what they are doing.

    • @sanpepsiman1277
      @sanpepsiman1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonk795 can you please explain what he did wrong?

    • @jasonk795
      @jasonk795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sanpepsiman1277 no crimp. Crank in the starter too long and the cable heats up from the resistance and melts the low temp solder. There goes the cable at the connector. There are shops that will crimp it for you if you don't have the correct tool. People giving bad repair lessons. Now others are going to do this. Creating more problems.

    • @sanpepsiman1277
      @sanpepsiman1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonk795 Thanks fam, dodged a big one here

    • @kenneth6731
      @kenneth6731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here, it literally freaks people out. The only thing I do different is I prep the copper with a wire brush, and then crimp it a bit before soldering.

  • @tattooedsoutherncali805bik3
    @tattooedsoutherncali805bik3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How good is the conduction though???? Is it the same as if u were to crimp it

  • @FlexDRG
    @FlexDRG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I would love to see your solder joint sawed through to see the solder penetration into the core of the wire bundle.

    • @rmblwgn
      @rmblwgn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It won't be unless you heat the wire before shoving it in there. If you don't heat it first you had better heat lug really good after it's in the molten solder or it will be a cold weld

    • @FlexDRG
      @FlexDRG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rmblwgn you need more heat than just a short, few seconds, of flame to heat the wire enough to really soak in the solder.

    • @rmblwgn
      @rmblwgn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlexDRG I know that's what I was saying. ppl who only heat up Lug just until solder melrs are going to have a cold joint

    • @FlexDRG
      @FlexDRG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rmblwgn i usually tin the wire first, then the lug with some solder and with the warm lug i insert the wire and keep the heat going a while longer to remelt the tin on the wire. But I also at times, crimp the lug onto the wire and then add solder for better electrical contact. (At least in my mind)

    • @ssnerd583
      @ssnerd583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have heated the solder up enough, it flows nicely into the cable strands. I have been making batter relocation harnesses for 20 years and I have never had one fail. Cars have been in accidents where they were totaled, and the cables have parted or the terminal lugs have broken at the attach point, but the cable has NEVER come out of the cup.
      THIS GUY HAS IT ALMOST RIGHT!!!! NO FLUX AND USE THE RIGHT SOLDER, AND YA GOLDEN!!!

  • @dwreal
    @dwreal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Properly crimped terminals are more reliable than soldered barrels. They will handle higher current and provide better strain relief. If the plumbing solder has flux core the acid flux used in plumbing promotes corrosion of the cables and any electronics nearby will suffer effects of the acid. If care is not taken to prevent the solder from wicking up the cable strands under the insulation the added rigidity to the stranded cable will increase stress to the terminal under vibration

  • @Stephenwp
    @Stephenwp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Plumbing solder is the wrong type for electrical use. It is best to use a hydraulic crimper for these types of terminals. If you are going to solder, you can buy solder slugs from an electrical terminal supplier that contain flux and are properly sized for the terminal.

  • @Andyborowik
    @Andyborowik 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant job. I start to do this with my old cars. 🚗

  • @kevinjwigner3038
    @kevinjwigner3038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should use rosin based flux for electrical connections. The acid based plumbing flux will corrode the wire over time.

  • @newjargon1697
    @newjargon1697 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe apply flux to both conductors, tin the stranded copper, crimp the connector, heat again?... Or, after crimping stranded wire with only flux on it, solder and the flux will draw it in. I like your video, just a few ideas.

  • @jeffbriggs7120
    @jeffbriggs7120 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job

  • @waynec369
    @waynec369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a reason those terminals are crimped on. The Achilles heel to your method is if the connection ever becomes loose the resulting resistance will create heat which can be high enough to melt your "sodder" and the connection falls apart. When this happens under a load the arc created at the time of separation can ignite the hydrogen given off by a weak battery thus causing an explosion.
    For those who follow his fouled advice do yourself a favor and use solder and flux that does NOT contain acid. By using materials meant for electrical connections you needn't have to worry about.

  • @kenneth6731
    @kenneth6731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your torch, what kind is it?

  • @Milk192
    @Milk192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful.

  • @ridered7262
    @ridered7262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have done this for my truck stereo and boat stereo power wires and no problems. Super strong connection.

  • @donlove3741
    @donlove3741 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Acid flux and cold solder joints !
    Reall electrician this guy.

  • @nathandavies2677
    @nathandavies2677 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyouu! Very clear and simple idea

  • @lilbitcoin4507
    @lilbitcoin4507 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My adhd thanks you for getting right to the point holy fuhhhh

  • @crazysquirrel9425
    @crazysquirrel9425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Applying solder to the wire is called tinning.
    Use less solder and add a crimp.

  • @MechanicsDIY
    @MechanicsDIY 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the last part is key .
    2 copper is best plated in zink or other non reactive metals .
    since it tends to collect the green stuff and stop charging .
    if you dip it in tin it will last longer

  • @JM-yx1lm
    @JM-yx1lm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did this on some cables I made, when you drop out that excess solder just fold it up and drop into the next connection

  • @mplsfarmer
    @mplsfarmer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed this video and it actually tempted me to replace the end connectors on my battery cables. I clean my battery cables and clamps twice a year fall & spring to maintain a good electrical connection. One question I have is are you really improving the electrical connection if plumbing solder-which isn’t copper-is sandwich between the copper end connector and the copper wire? (Being facetious: Getting the professional look is the real goal here for a cable that will connect to the battery under a car hood and never be seen by anybody. I always try to get a professional weld on my exhaust pipes as well. 😅)

    • @Boreamear
      @Boreamear 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Careful on factory replacement cables, they are typically copper coated aluminum.

  • @edgonzalez4254
    @edgonzalez4254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the tips.

  • @anthonymolero9728
    @anthonymolero9728 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job, making it easy and complete. Thank you!

  • @boesshawn
    @boesshawn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You do appear to make a good electrical connection, but crimping it will give you a good mechanical connection as well.

  • @paulrooster2108
    @paulrooster2108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yea was going to say , Come On Man where's your Shrink Wrap?

  • @Radionut
    @Radionut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That will work on smaller wires also what a brilliant idea thank you for the post

  • @IamAli89
    @IamAli89 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    super video friend..

  • @Boreamear
    @Boreamear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    proper lug size, and proper size crimp die are the approved methods for terminals or splices. There are zero codes or standards that allow for a "soldier" only splice or termination.

  • @danmyself5341
    @danmyself5341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dissimilar metals and DC current cause oxidation. copper and solder and DC current overtime, will oxidize, that's why we use a crimping tool for that terminal.

  • @dannmann17
    @dannmann17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will forever use this method thanks for sharing

  • @dmitryfilipenkov4488
    @dmitryfilipenkov4488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    При окислении контактной группы и последующем нагреве что произойдёт с проводом? Главное, чтоб если выпадет из места пайки не замкнул аккумулятор на короткую.

  • @job38four10
    @job38four10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always thought when replacing cable connectors it was a good idea to soder them, good demo video thanks for posting!!!

    • @bertrandvlbd4040
      @bertrandvlbd4040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely no, crimp your cable. Solder is for electronics. In industrial appliance, solder is forbidden.

  • @safetyalways7788
    @safetyalways7788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what gauge is this battery cable?

  • @kiwiwifi
    @kiwiwifi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is somewhat better than an incorrectly crimped connection. Too often compromises are made when the correct crimping tool is not used. He’s y gauge Crimping should be done at the workshop. I often opt for professionally pre-crimped when out and about.

  • @donm.1068
    @donm.1068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done on the battery cables. Do you want to sell your CNC router?

  • @kevinwiens4804
    @kevinwiens4804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man I have been "hooked" on your channel ever since I watched your "trucker hitch" video on You Tube...
    So since you are a "smart feller" who likes a challenge, How do I get you to do A VID? About A soda can stove diy of course
    WE've got to start recycling all these aluminum cans???!!!

    • @First_Class_Amateur
      @First_Class_Amateur  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Kevin, I’ll try and make one in the next few days. Thanks for the comment.

    • @kevinwiens4804
      @kevinwiens4804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@First_Class_Amateur In Colorado we do a lot of back-packing and camping and boating and I would love to see a quick can stove out of recycled pop cans into a "jet-stove" with your "special twist" as always Thank brother..
      (Btw:
      Brent, you sure must be doing something right, I'm looking at a few of the "hater comments" just jealous because they do NOT have the 'drive and ambition" to make great simple videos!)