This is what makes Juri's rescue become extremely hard: D-Reaper utilises Juri'd despair to her hate as a fuel & weapon against Takato and others, making herself invincible, and the word "it's all because of fate" just gives Juri haunt since her mother's death and amplified in the death of Leomon. To be frank, I think D-Reaper is one of the most well-designed enemies in the whole franchise.
Also, when Beelzemon gives her a chance to escape, she’s horribly reminded of what happened to Leomon and the the fact his killer was using his power, causing her to reject his help and almost get him killed. Of course, Jeri regrets what she did immediately and is understandably distraught and guilt stricken when Beelzemon nearly dies due to her, giving the D-Reaper the push it needed to torture her with her cables to make her fall into deeper despair and horror, resulting in its final evolution into the Mother D-Reaper. Edited to add: While Leomon’s last words and death were the straw that broke the camel’s back, this scene shows just how troubled Jeri was deep down and how her father didn’t really help her by trying to put up a tough front and claiming that ‘it was fate’ that her mother died, resulting in Jeri being troubled by it for years. The worst thing is was that her father was genuinely trying to be a good parent and really did love her, as he was willing to risk his own life to get her back after he learned the D-Reaper had kidnapped her. He just screwed up royally and was forced to see what his poor choice in words had caused.
I want to see an R-rated, condensed remake of Digimon Tamers where the Nightmare Fuel is turned up to beyond extreme levels. Levels even the most hardened adults will go psychotic with fear from.
BladeBros64 That's fine, the Angels were too. V: A thing can have multiple inspirations, after all, and the most Lovecraftian thing about the D-Reaper was that it was following the "dead but dreaming" motif common to the Great Old Ones. The actual aesthetic of the D-Reaper was definitely based on the Angels foremost. ADR-02's wings were based on Sahaquiel, the Mother D-Reaper's mask had similarities to the mask of Lilith, and the physiques and coloration of the D-Reaper agents were just very Angel-esque in general, frankly. It's not like any of them are exact copies, but there's enough clear similarities (especially given the parallel tones of Evangelion and Tamers, especially during the D-Reaper arc) that the inspiration is pretty clear. Hell, if anything, the Angels are more similar to the Great Old Ones in methodology than the D-Reaper is, given that most of them aren't particularly inclined to discuss matters with humans. When the Angels do try to communicate, it's by dawning some sort of disconcerting human form - such as a doppelganger of a main character, for instance. Oh, where have I seen that one before?
***** You're kinda right about the Angels, although I expected to see more similarities between the two when I was watching Evangelion for the first time. ADR 02's wings take that eye sign from Sahaquiel or its atleast very similar. Yeah most of the angels are numb and ADR's as well. The Goalkeeper ADR is obviously similar to Leliel But I'd say the D-Reaper is definitely more Lovecraftian and disturbing than Angels. The Jeri Clone = Nyarlathotep, the Mother D-Reaper resembles the Dunwich Horror and Shub Niggurath (as it spawns more upgraded forms from itself). The D-Reaper grew so massive that it became the eldritch zone itself. Tamers is probably the closest we will ever get to Cthulhu Mythos, in anime. This is the exact reason why Tamers is one of my favorite anime. Tamers > EVA imo.
Digimon is 100% a kid's show, people just don't give kids enough credit in what they can understand and experience. The reason Digimon always stood out like this was because it respected it's audience, it understood that Kids face serious things in their lives and wasn't afraid to shy away from that, from the first two season's continuity dealing with topics like familial death, divorce, and other things kids regularly face, to Tamers and beyond expanding and doing more, the series showed it respected what kids go through even from a really young age. The series grew up with it's audience too, it tried to stay connected with the kids it tried to appeal to even into adult hood. It's 100% a kid's show, but it proves that being a kid's show doesn't mean limiting yourself to brainless entertainment, it knows what kids are capable of.
arrimas arrington Fun fact. She's a reference to a character from another anime from the same writer called Serial Experiments Lain, with many of the same themes and concepts. You should watch it.
Gligar13Vids I was actually just about to say that. The fact that Lain, and Jeri look nearly identical(brown hair/eyes, hairstyle,ponytail) is enough to give it away. Kind of funny considering the American voice of Jeri is the same as Lains American, while the Japanese voice for Jeri is actually alice's Japanese voice.
I literally cannot think of this season without remembering the freaky D-Reaper parts and Jeri's possessed, homicidal (suicidal?) puppet. I was honestly scared shitless by this season. Oh, sure, it was fun to begin with....and I think that's why. I let my guard down.
+Gabriela Ferreira (Crimsonoid) That because Chiaki J Konaka write half part of 02 and writes for Tamers. Chiaki J Konaka is big fans of Lovecraft, like Urobuchi.
***** I wish there was a spinoff of the Digimon including only that cthulhu arc preferably written by Konaka. If that could be included in the new Digimon tri series, I'd be the happiest Digimon fan.
***** Yep, Konaka is one really weird dude. Have you watched Tamers? What a hell of a ride was that when I was only 8 years old, I still remember that shit! Fun fact is that the episode with Hikari didn't really scare me, most likely because I was much older when I watched it, it still was weird though. If you like this, you should definitely pick up some stuff from H.P.Lovecraft. Konaka said it himself that such works have influenced him.
***** In Croatia, Tamers aired in 2005 with Japanese audio. English dub sucks. German version was great. You can read anything you want from Lovecraft, very few of his short stories are related, and even those are slightly connected. His literature is divided into two frames: The Cthulhu Mythos and the Dream Cycle. Call of Cthulhu is his most famous story (but not necessarily the best one) and is the closest reference to the episode with Hikari. The Cthulhu Mythos stories revolve around the philosophy of the cosmic horror invented by the writer himself. I've seen Ghost Hound (crazy anime), was halfway through the Serial experiments lain and planned to watch Texhnolyze but FMA happened to be in the way so I didn't.
+August Jensen The voice actors were fine but I didn't like the americanized opening, they got rid of the original soundtracks and edited the script to make it less dark. Eh I didn't drop SEL, I was busy with something else and put it on waiting. That show requires far too much concentration to fully understand it from the first hand. It's an interesting anime, I'll finish it sometime later. Ghost Hound is really awesome, the charm of that show are sound effects, it builds a superb atmosphere. I loved characters, setting and story I recommend you both SEL and Ghost Hound.
digimon tamers was so dark and complex at the time i wacht it that i could not understand it much, but now or me is the greatest season ever beacuse of it.
I'm _20_ and having watched through Tamers recently, I think it's safe to say that it's the very first time a show ever broke me. Episode 34 nearly did, but 47 and 48? That's where I completely broke down.
The entirity of the D-Reaper arc for me is one of the darkest things I've ever seen as a kid. I remember watching this for the first time back then and thinking about how people can be scared shitless from this. You know! For kids!
zrlap To be fair, they should have known what they were in for already, since he wrote the Dark Ocean episode of Adventure 02, as well as the Daemon episodes.
Yo so this scene legit gave me nightmares as a kid, it kept me awake at night many times. Like even rewatching as a grown-ass adult, it makes me nervous because it scared me so damn bad as a kid
Even after so many years, this scene still scares me. Btw, I watched the dubbed one, not the japanese subs. I was a kid at that time, and honestly it still gives me the chills even now. I thought I was watching Digimon, not Evangelion...but this is truly horrifying. It's a miracle in a series of misfortunes that Jeri DID NOT TURN INSANE.
when i was about 12 i used to watch ths show, i missed many episodes though.....THANK GOD I MISSED THIS ONE now im 20 and that puppet has my hairs standing on end
Do it, it has lots of nice references as a bonus for older fans rewatching stuff, like, lovecraft references or philosophic stuff, I found that it's still as good at making me bawl by eyes out now that im 18 as it was when I was in elementary school. My siblings and I used to *love* digimon
Digimon Tamers was aired under Saban if I remember correctly. It still had some pretty sad and dark moments that make season one of Digimon look like a 4Kids production by comparison. They pretty much kept Jeri's parental issues including her mother's death, and her depression. The ending where the Tamers loose their partners is still there and of course there is still the freaky design of the D-Reaper which as it turns out is based off the Angels from Evangelion.
I remember seeing that episode on Fox Kids when I was 12, and it scared the living crap out of me. Imagine Pokemon having a similar dark tone as Tamers!
See the "Pokemon Generations" on TH-cam. Pokemon can indeed be dark, when it wants to. I mean, Colress freezes over the entire city in a single shot of the Kyurem Cannon aboard the Plasma Frigate, and later they *do* show icy corpses of people and Pokemon on streets. And then there's the episode with Ghetsis and N, and the episode about AZ...
@BBoy2020 I was talking more about the permanent death thing, though Savers has some more mature themes mixed in. While not the norm in the Savers Universe, one of the villains discovers a way to permanently kill Digimon and goes on a genocidal murder spree. I can think of at least five Digimon important to the plot who were among the victims. Also, permanent death is the norm in Xros Wars.
You nailed it, I was going to say the same. I'm going to also add that Digimon did have unusually good staff for a marketing vehicle, Chiaki J Konaka (who is mentioned above) and even Mamoru Hosoda the director of Summer wars were involved.
It doesn't creep me out anymore now that I've seen this clip a couple times, but when I first saw it... *Shivers* The older Jeri freaked me out! I always feel terrible for Juri/Jeri when I watch this...
Of course it's not a children show. The concept od the Digital monsters being friends with children is pretty childish. However it contains very dark and deep themes. Some characters are very deep and have very dark and difficult past and Juri here is a very good example. Some children might not understand that and even get scared. This show actually scared me when I was a child.
By the way, in the Saban version that aired open Fox Kids, this scene remained intact, but they replaced the words fate with destiny and changed the music I think...
Tamer was really one of the darkest season, and thats why i loved it so much! :D plus i loved the biomerging. i didnt like how before the humans would just kinda stand on the sidelines, they actually went out and fought as one with their digimon :D
I love how naturally Tamers got more and more messed up until you finally get to a giant blob trying to erase every living thing by feeding off the depression, guilt and grief of a little girl. Darker isn't necessarily better but in this scenario it sure as hell was. I guess it helps that 1 and 2 had similar elements but sort of flirted with them before shying away.
@ToruKun1 not only intelligence, courage as well. This is seriously creepier than I thought it would be... especially the "warping" shot at the end. If it's somewhat creepy to a 17-year old guy... out of context... I have to wonder what was it like to watch this as a kid... it would've been scary, but soooooooo EPIC.
in truth i enjoy this particular season now that i'm older more than when i first watched it because i appreciate it more, it's hard to believe they could do this much with a marketing anime
I loved D-Reaper as a villain, it was just so freakin' alien and weird and fascinating, i thought it was really interesting how it took poor Jeri apart in its attempt to understand humans... it was quite satisfying when she finally snapped out of it all with a little help from adorable little calumon
@RouroniRockman Or are you talking about the permanent death thing? I couldn't exactly recall if Data Squad had permanent death, I know Frontier didn't, and I haven't seen Xros Wars at all.
It's a kids show and a great one at that. Because it doesn't look down at the intelligence of children thinking they are too dumb to enjoy a good story and teaches that everything isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Polar opposite of Pokemon.
digimon was a kids' show. kids shows can have depth. that and the expectations for what children can and can't handle are different in japan than in the US
This is funny, cause I saw a comment on Gelbooru on a Minervamon picture saying "How is this still a kids show??" considering even season one's censored version has notable points where it wasn't meant for kids
This IS a kids show... it's just a kids show written by Chiaki Konaka. :) Dammit, now I feel like I have to watch it! The two shots that got me were the "no face" shot and the second-to-last one where everything just WARPS along the "UNMEI... UNMEI..." chant.
These are important themes that kids age 8-12 should be learning as they grow up. I don't think it's unsuitable for them. Kids understand a lot more than people give them credit for, and if they can relate their own experiences to a character from a cartoon, it makes them feel their lives are that much more valid. It's important that we don't neuter our kids by raising them in a perfect bubble world, because it can be traumatic when that fantasy bubble pops.
@Lizardman Batman: The Animated Series was a kid's show, as are most DC shows, and yet it was very dark and over its target audience's head at times. A kid's show doesn't have to be cheesy and cute, even many cartoons in the West have aspects that only adults would really understand. Also, Japan has different standards when it comes to children's entertainment.
ngl im wondering who tought off bringing Chiaki Konaka in to write a Digimon season. like i mean he literally wrote a mind screw with lain and they were like: It's fine, he could write for a kids show. LMAO
Not to mention adventure 02 which basically had a main character running around with a latent death wish for talmost he entire second half of ther show.
That being said though, one can only wonder what kind of person would think of this as suitable for, let's say, the 8-12 year olds. The series as a whole has got some pretty damn terrifying elements to it, as opposed to the ones that came before it... Which is probably why some people claim that this stuff wasn't necessarily written for kids.
Season 3 was when Digimon started becoming a more "mature" series. Hell, I think it's the only Digimon series that actually has permanent death for Digimon instead of just being "reborn" as an egg.
@TheGloryXros I guess so, even though the contrast of colours in that season keeps giving me eye-strain. Even so, I doubt that was made for adults as much as pre-teens... >_>
@MagnusCondomus Sorry. what i tried to say was that in a lot of both Disney film animations and Japanese kids shows, the parents tend to die. Like Lion King or Bambi.
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This is what makes Juri's rescue become extremely hard: D-Reaper utilises Juri'd despair to her hate as a fuel & weapon against Takato and others, making herself invincible, and the word "it's all because of fate" just gives Juri haunt since her mother's death and amplified in the death of Leomon. To be frank, I think D-Reaper is one of the most well-designed enemies in the whole franchise.
Also, when Beelzemon gives her a chance to escape, she’s horribly reminded of what happened to Leomon and the the fact his killer was using his power, causing her to reject his help and almost get him killed. Of course, Jeri regrets what she did immediately and is understandably distraught and guilt stricken when Beelzemon nearly dies due to her, giving the D-Reaper the push it needed to torture her with her cables to make her fall into deeper despair and horror, resulting in its final evolution into the Mother D-Reaper.
Edited to add: While Leomon’s last words and death were the straw that broke the camel’s back, this scene shows just how troubled Jeri was deep down and how her father didn’t really help her by trying to put up a tough front and claiming that ‘it was fate’ that her mother died, resulting in Jeri being troubled by it for years.
The worst thing is was that her father was genuinely trying to be a good parent and really did love her, as he was willing to risk his own life to get her back after he learned the D-Reaper had kidnapped her. He just screwed up royally and was forced to see what his poor choice in words had caused.
This is what happens when you get a horror writer to make a kid's anime.
and a sex artist epiosde 42 and the jacket is off thats right boys it play time
TheTrashCanMC What about when sakuyamon "Transfered her power" to justimon, which took her clothes off. Then justimon's "Sword" gets bigger?
Hah! Right! Was Junji Ito in charge of this?
Serasia the same guy who created lain
Are you serious? XD
I want to see an R-rated, condensed remake of Digimon Tamers where the Nightmare Fuel is turned up to beyond extreme levels.
Levels even the most hardened adults will go psychotic with fear from.
Evangelion doesn't have d-reaper
The D-Reaper was based on the Angels anyway.
Granted they're neither as talkative nor fueled by actual clinical depression.
***** I'd say the D-Reaper was more likely based on Lovecraftian creatures
BladeBros64 That's fine, the Angels were too. V:
A thing can have multiple inspirations, after all, and the most Lovecraftian thing about the D-Reaper was that it was following the "dead but dreaming" motif common to the Great Old Ones. The actual aesthetic of the D-Reaper was definitely based on the Angels foremost. ADR-02's wings were based on Sahaquiel, the Mother D-Reaper's mask had similarities to the mask of Lilith, and the physiques and coloration of the D-Reaper agents were just very Angel-esque in general, frankly. It's not like any of them are exact copies, but there's enough clear similarities (especially given the parallel tones of Evangelion and Tamers, especially during the D-Reaper arc) that the inspiration is pretty clear.
Hell, if anything, the Angels are more similar to the Great Old Ones in methodology than the D-Reaper is, given that most of them aren't particularly inclined to discuss matters with humans. When the Angels do try to communicate, it's by dawning some sort of disconcerting human form - such as a doppelganger of a main character, for instance. Oh, where have I seen that one before?
***** You're kinda right about the Angels, although I expected to see more similarities between the two when I was watching Evangelion for the first time. ADR 02's wings take that eye sign from Sahaquiel or its atleast very similar. Yeah most of the angels are numb and ADR's as well. The Goalkeeper ADR is obviously similar to Leliel But I'd say the D-Reaper is definitely more Lovecraftian and disturbing than Angels. The Jeri Clone = Nyarlathotep, the Mother D-Reaper resembles the Dunwich Horror and Shub Niggurath (as it spawns more upgraded forms from itself). The D-Reaper grew so massive that it became the eldritch zone itself. Tamers is probably the closest we will ever get to Cthulhu Mythos, in anime. This is the exact reason why Tamers is one of my favorite anime. Tamers > EVA imo.
No horror scene had ever got this much of a reaction of pure, gut-wrenching TERROR from me in YEARS,
And I first saw this when I was TWENTY-TWO.
Digimon was never for kids
It was for the "cool" kids
agree
Digimon is 100% a kid's show, people just don't give kids enough credit in what they can understand and experience. The reason Digimon always stood out like this was because it respected it's audience, it understood that Kids face serious things in their lives and wasn't afraid to shy away from that, from the first two season's continuity dealing with topics like familial death, divorce, and other things kids regularly face, to Tamers and beyond expanding and doing more, the series showed it respected what kids go through even from a really young age. The series grew up with it's audience too, it tried to stay connected with the kids it tried to appeal to even into adult hood. It's 100% a kid's show, but it proves that being a kid's show doesn't mean limiting yourself to brainless entertainment, it knows what kids are capable of.
Took the words out of my mouth and said them perfectly!
100% agree
Well said, some people try to shield kids from the reality of the world and it's not very healthy
This anime changed my life.
Little Jeri is so cute
arrimas arrington Fun fact. She's a reference to a character from another anime from the same writer called Serial Experiments Lain, with many of the same themes and concepts. You should watch it.
Gligar13Vids I was actually just about to say that. The fact that Lain, and Jeri look nearly identical(brown hair/eyes, hairstyle,ponytail) is enough to give it away. Kind of funny considering the American voice of Jeri is the same as Lains American, while the Japanese voice for Jeri is actually alice's Japanese voice.
This is some Evangelion-level stuff.
Well, that's what happens when you put the guy who made Serial Experiments Lain as the writer for a kids show :D
***** Well, it's supposed to be for kids and teens. BUt it has to do with Japanse culture. There........this is not even scary
Surprisingly Chiaki didn't write this episode.
He is the writer of episode 13 of 02 (that horribe episode where Hikari was taken to the Dark Ocean (Dagomon's ocena)
I would love to see the Nostalgia Ciritc's reaction to this scene.
+SBaby A FAMILY PICTURE!
"You know, for kids!"
it will be cool if he did one of his vlogs about this, since its rare to hear opinions on this show from people who did not watch the original
SBaby Maybe the same after watching the “You Cannot Defeat Us” Nintendo commercial
The head writer for this series was known to have be the writer for horror related anime like Hellsing.
Well... no. Not Hellsing. Serial Experiments Lain, though. But, yes, dark, cyberpunk, psychological horror stuff.
AusSP I didn't mean he wrote for Hellsing but he was the Series Composition.
RahXephon and Princess Tutu
Connor Wood He is best known for contributing to Lovecraft mythos
Uhmm no. He was behind Serial Experiments Lain, not Hellsing...
This is how they interrogate people in Japan.
Ok.
I literally cannot think of this season without remembering the freaky D-Reaper parts and Jeri's possessed, homicidal (suicidal?) puppet. I was honestly scared shitless by this season. Oh, sure, it was fun to begin with....and I think that's why. I let my guard down.
It was a kid's show, but you underestimate kids. (There's also nothing wrong with liking things not marketed towards your age group.)
Did Chiaki at this point just completely forget that he was no longer working on Serial Experiments Lain?
Digimon scared me since that 13th episode from Digimon Adventure 02... yeah, that Lovecraftian thing.
+Gabriela Ferreira (Crimsonoid) That exact episode was what led me to google "creepiest digimon episode" which led me here.
+Gabriela Ferreira (Crimsonoid) That because Chiaki J Konaka write half part of 02 and writes for Tamers. Chiaki J Konaka is big fans of Lovecraft, like Urobuchi.
+Gabriela Ferreira (Crimsonoid) You should see the japanese dub of that episode. Those creatures wanted Kari to breed with Dagomon.
+Reza Satria he was also the creator of the cyberpunk surreal trip that is Experimental Girl Lain. Tamers is often described as "Lain for kids".
Christian Schmude
Yup. I'm still hoping one day he writing stories for Kamen Rider.
GENDO: "get in the Fucking Reaper, Jeri."
Rika: "gent in the Fucking Dukemon, Takato"
RUNNING AWAY FROM DESTINY?!
gamefan6219 *vietnam flashbacks*
Chiaki Konaka's Classic
I still remember this shit after ten years😂 It was my first experience with dark anime, and it captivated me to no end!
This scene scare the living shit out of me when I was a kid.
*gulp* and I though Hikari ending up into the dark world was creepy.
Merete Nora that episode with Hikari was written by the same person. There's a lot of lovecraft influence in digimon.
***** I wish there was a spinoff of the Digimon including only that cthulhu arc preferably written by Konaka. If that could be included in the new Digimon tri series, I'd be the happiest Digimon fan.
***** Yep, Konaka is one really weird dude. Have you watched Tamers? What a hell of a ride was that when I was only 8 years old, I still remember that shit! Fun fact is that the episode with Hikari didn't really scare me, most likely because I was much older when I watched it, it still was weird though. If you like this, you should definitely pick up some stuff from H.P.Lovecraft. Konaka said it himself that such works have influenced him.
***** In Croatia, Tamers aired in 2005 with Japanese audio. English dub sucks. German version was great. You can read anything you want from Lovecraft, very few of his short stories are related, and even those are slightly connected. His literature is divided into two frames: The Cthulhu Mythos and the Dream Cycle. Call of Cthulhu is his most famous story (but not necessarily the best one) and is the closest reference to the episode with Hikari. The Cthulhu Mythos stories revolve around the philosophy of the cosmic horror invented by the writer himself. I've seen Ghost Hound (crazy anime), was halfway through the Serial experiments lain and planned to watch Texhnolyze but FMA happened to be in the way so I didn't.
+August Jensen The voice actors were fine but I didn't like the americanized opening, they got rid of the original soundtracks and edited the script to make it less dark. Eh I didn't drop SEL, I was busy with something else and put it on waiting. That show requires far too much concentration to fully understand it from the first hand. It's an interesting anime, I'll finish it sometime later. Ghost Hound is really awesome, the charm of that show are sound effects, it builds a superb atmosphere. I loved characters, setting and story I recommend you both SEL and Ghost Hound.
Oh the fact that it's indeed a kid's shown is what made its darkness so awesome
digimon tamers was so dark and complex at the time i wacht it that i could not understand it much, but now or me is the greatest season ever beacuse of it.
He is the writer of episode 13 of 02 (that horribe episode where Hikari was taken to the Dark Ocean (Dagomon's ocena)
That Scene Scares The Hell out of Me
what the fuck did i just watch diego i feel like i took a drug pill and swallow it then started tripping
Victor Jimenez One of Jeri's (from Digimon Tamers) Worst Nightmare of her Past
i fucken cried at one point watching this show. you know you did too
I cried at the end where the Digimon had to return to their world.
same :(
Poor Jeri she's so cute an innocent. I just wanna hug her she's so cute. If I was 14 and watching this I would have freaked out
Takato x Juri is the best Digimon pairing ever
takato x guilmon is better
I was turning 13 when that episode aired and it didn't freak me out cause I was already purple belt in karate
I'm _20_ and having watched through Tamers recently, I think it's safe to say that it's the very first time a show ever broke me. Episode 34 nearly did, but 47 and 48? That's where I completely broke down.
The entirity of the D-Reaper arc for me is one of the darkest things I've ever seen as a kid. I remember watching this for the first time back then and thinking about how people can be scared shitless from this.
You know! For kids!
when the hell did Digimon cross Evaglion happen
When they let the writer for Serial Experiments Lain and a few Cthulhu books write an entire season of Digimon.
Well i"m on board for that shit
zrlap They really need to get Konaka to work on the next one. There has yet to be a Digimon season as good as Tamers.
zrlap To be fair, they should have known what they were in for already, since he wrote the Dark Ocean episode of Adventure 02, as well as the Daemon episodes.
Yo so this scene legit gave me nightmares as a kid, it kept me awake at night many times. Like even rewatching as a grown-ass adult, it makes me nervous because it scared me so damn bad as a kid
Even after so many years, this scene still scares me. Btw, I watched the dubbed one, not the japanese subs. I was a kid at that time, and honestly it still gives me the chills even now.
I thought I was watching Digimon, not Evangelion...but this is truly horrifying. It's a miracle in a series of misfortunes that Jeri DID NOT TURN INSANE.
when i was about 12 i used to watch ths show, i missed many episodes though.....THANK GOD I MISSED THIS ONE
now im 20 and that puppet has my hairs standing on end
Do it, it has lots of nice references as a bonus for older fans rewatching stuff, like, lovecraft references or philosophic stuff, I found that it's still as good at making me bawl by eyes out now that im 18 as it was when I was in elementary school. My siblings and I used to *love* digimon
Digimon Tamers was aired under Saban if I remember correctly. It still had some pretty sad and dark moments that make season one of Digimon look like a 4Kids production by comparison. They pretty much kept Jeri's parental issues including her mother's death, and her depression. The ending where the Tamers loose their partners is still there and of course there is still the freaky design of the D-Reaper which as it turns out is based off the Angels from Evangelion.
I remember seeing that episode on Fox Kids when I was 12, and it scared the living crap out of me.
Imagine Pokemon having a similar dark tone as Tamers!
See the "Pokemon Generations" on TH-cam. Pokemon can indeed be dark, when it wants to. I mean, Colress freezes over the entire city in a single shot of the Kyurem Cannon aboard the Plasma Frigate, and later they *do* show icy corpses of people and Pokemon on streets. And then there's the episode with Ghetsis and N, and the episode about AZ...
This scene would be pretty creepy for kids, but as a whole Digimon is definitely catered to them...
@BBoy2020 I was talking more about the permanent death thing, though Savers has some more mature themes mixed in. While not the norm in the Savers Universe, one of the villains discovers a way to permanently kill Digimon and goes on a genocidal murder spree. I can think of at least five Digimon important to the plot who were among the victims. Also, permanent death is the norm in Xros Wars.
This is what happens when you get the same person who made Serial Experiments Lain to make your digimon kids show.
You nailed it, I was going to say the same. I'm going to also add that Digimon did have unusually good staff for a marketing vehicle, Chiaki J Konaka (who is mentioned above) and even Mamoru Hosoda the director of Summer wars were involved.
It doesn't creep me out anymore now that I've seen this clip a couple times, but when I first saw it... *Shivers* The older Jeri freaked me out!
I always feel terrible for Juri/Jeri when I watch this...
This brought me to tears mainly because of how much I can relate to Jerri
Of course it's not a children show. The concept od the Digital monsters being friends with children is pretty childish. However it contains very dark and deep themes. Some characters are very deep and have very dark and difficult past and Juri here is a very good example. Some children might not understand that and even get scared. This show actually scared me when I was a child.
I watched this when I was 8, and it gave me nightmares for years.
What the FUCK?! I need to watch this season now!
+Dillon Shea Digimon Tamers??
Yes dude. What is up with Tamers?
Robert Rojas The dub is not that bad.
By the way, in the Saban version that aired open Fox Kids, this scene remained intact, but they replaced the words fate with destiny and changed the music I think...
Tamer was really one of the darkest season, and thats why i loved it so much! :D
plus i loved the biomerging. i didnt like how before the humans would just kinda stand on the sidelines, they actually went out and fought as one with their digimon :D
I love how naturally Tamers got more and more messed up until you finally get to a giant blob trying to erase every living thing by feeding off the depression, guilt and grief of a little girl. Darker isn't necessarily better but in this scenario it sure as hell was. I guess it helps that 1 and 2 had similar elements but sort of flirted with them before shying away.
Very good anime though
@ToruKun1 not only intelligence, courage as well. This is seriously creepier than I thought it would be... especially the "warping" shot at the end. If it's somewhat creepy to a 17-year old guy... out of context... I have to wonder what was it like to watch this as a kid... it would've been scary, but soooooooo EPIC.
in truth i enjoy this particular season now that i'm older more than when i first watched it because i appreciate it more, it's hard to believe they could do this much with a marketing anime
@StBurkeINC It also has Leomon, but I don't know how that makes it more of a show for adults.
@RaxielTheBlackTerror It was written by Chiaki J. Konaka, who also did writing for NGE.
I loved D-Reaper as a villain, it was just so freakin' alien and weird and fascinating, i thought it was really interesting how it took poor Jeri apart in its attempt to understand humans... it was quite satisfying when she finally snapped out of it all with a little help from adorable little calumon
@RouroniRockman Or are you talking about the permanent death thing? I couldn't exactly recall if Data Squad had permanent death, I know Frontier didn't, and I haven't seen Xros Wars at all.
I was terrified when I first saw this. It was only last week, and I'm 18. I'm not scared by anime! Incredible kudos to Chiaki Konaka...
@misty11 I don't know if it's region locked or not, but the whole season is up on Hulu. Other then that, there's torrents of it floating around.
HEY KIDS YOU WANT A WIDE AWAKE NIGHTMARE!!!
It's a kids show and a great one at that. Because it doesn't look down at the intelligence of children thinking they are too dumb to enjoy a good story and teaches that everything isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Polar opposite of Pokemon.
The beginning of this scene makes so much more sense than the American version. However, the end of the scene is pretty spot on.
digimon was a kids' show. kids shows can have depth.
that and the expectations for what children can and can't handle are different in japan than in the US
Well, to be fair season 3 was really dark, it was treated as an actual anime rather than a kiddy show like the first 2 seasons were.
And she fucking lost Leomon too... She suffered through the whole thing.
This is funny, cause I saw a comment on Gelbooru on a Minervamon picture saying "How is this still a kids show??" considering even season one's censored version has notable points where it wasn't meant for kids
I'm more of a fan of the Dub of Digimon Tamers, but I guess no matter which version you watch this will always scare the p*** outta kids everywhere.
I think people need death education. As in how to prepare for death and what to do when face death.
I'm still amazed that this show made it overseas... but I'm happy it did.
I'm more amazed at the fact that the English version is almost completely uncut. This scene and one other are the only changes that I'm aware of.
***** No, this scene wasn't cut. Some scenes were edited, but none were cut.
Reba Fossy I thought they didn't show her mom's body in the English dub.
***** Nope, this scene is entirely intact in the dub. They usually only censored stuff having to do with guns or alcohol.
Reba Fossy Huh. Well, it has been awhile since I saw it, so I guess it is possible.
Chiaki J Konaka what a God.
I remember when I saw this as a kid, I totally got freak out by it!
Fist of the North Star was censored to air on TV anyway, but it was still hilariously violent.
I remember this scene vividly. Creepy doll Jeri just came outta nowhere O_O
0:52 I saw that part on this episode earlier on. Too scary. I'm gonna have nightmares
That Scares The Hell out of me
This IS a kids show... it's just a kids show written by Chiaki Konaka. :)
Dammit, now I feel like I have to watch it!
The two shots that got me were the "no face" shot and the second-to-last one where everything just WARPS along the "UNMEI... UNMEI..." chant.
Excuse me while I cry in a corner.
A FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMILY PICTER
I TOLD them that letting Cthulhu opening a hospital would only end in bloodshed and tears...
I lost count of the things in tamers that had no place in a kids show
i... dont remeber this. oh well jsut means i have to watch the entire season again!!!!
I hated Tamers at first, but it grew on me. Scenes like this, the better writing, among other things made it my favorite season.
These are important themes that kids age 8-12 should be learning as they grow up. I don't think it's unsuitable for them. Kids understand a lot more than people give them credit for, and if they can relate their own experiences to a character from a cartoon, it makes them feel their lives are that much more valid. It's important that we don't neuter our kids by raising them in a perfect bubble world, because it can be traumatic when that fantasy bubble pops.
Great Mind Rape of the Childhood.
@Lizardman Batman: The Animated Series was a kid's show, as are most DC shows, and yet it was very dark and over its target audience's head at times. A kid's show doesn't have to be cheesy and cute, even many cartoons in the West have aspects that only adults would really understand.
Also, Japan has different standards when it comes to children's entertainment.
ngl im wondering who tought off bringing Chiaki Konaka in to write a Digimon season. like i mean he literally wrote a mind screw with lain and they were like: It's fine, he could write for a kids show. LMAO
The director who directed this is the same who made the Devilman Lady anime so....yes
this was my favorite season of digimon!
as a kid i was kinda twisted
You know... for kids!
Find a happy place, find that damn happy place...where the hell did I put my happy place?!
@vanishy0urself He actually did several Cyber Punk shows. Serial Experiments Lain, Texhnolyze, Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040, Parasite Dolls, etc.
Not to mention adventure 02 which basically had a main character running around with a latent death wish for talmost he entire second half of ther show.
well....im not sleeping tonight
@strawberryhiromi The dub was actually exceedingly faithful for this series, which is surprising, because this is pretty much the darkest series.
Dude, I couldn't agree more! :)
That being said though, one can only wonder what kind of person would think of this as suitable for, let's say, the 8-12 year olds. The series as a whole has got some pretty damn terrifying elements to it, as opposed to the ones that came before it... Which is probably why some people claim that this stuff wasn't necessarily written for kids.
Dr. Tomoe was Jeri's mother's doctor! No wonder Jeri was scarred for life!
Season 3 was when Digimon started becoming a more "mature" series. Hell, I think it's the only Digimon series that actually has permanent death for Digimon instead of just being "reborn" as an egg.
@MagnusCondomus
WELP.
THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLKS.
Digimon Tamers is Evangelion. Cept with mons.
@TheGloryXros I guess so, even though the contrast of colours in that season keeps giving me eye-strain. Even so, I doubt that was made for adults as much as pre-teens... >_>
This is the reason that there at least one series on this show on (Use to be) netflix.... I guess that is the reason
Or just the license ran out
@@KevinS_2004 oh
@DarthBobCat
yeah, it treats kids with respect rather then talking down to them
@MagnusCondomus Sorry. what i tried to say was that in a lot of both Disney film animations and Japanese kids shows, the parents tend to die. Like Lion King or Bambi.