*REACTION* BTS (방탄소년단) WINGS - STIGMA
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ย. 2023
- We watch the short film and listen to the song. Episode 16 in our BTS M/V Journey. Please Like and Subscribe! #bts #wings #stigma #방탄소년단
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I would just like to state by seeing all the comments, as their mod, this is how the guys have chosen to react to the songs and films themselves. They wanted to react to the short films but also wanted to react to the songs. Yes the boys know the songs have no connection with the films what so ever (I’ve also told them this many times as well) but if I’m being honest here I’m over seeing the comments telling them about how THEY choose to react to bts content. The boys absolutely love bts and actually plan to react to their variety shows and such moving forward. That being said I’ve told the boys how much the BU is crazy in depth and whether the boys decide to explore the BU or not is their choice but I appreciate the boys for how authentic they are at reacting to the music and how much they appreciate the songs themselves. Please keep supporting the boys in their future endeavors and if you have any ideas for them moving forward then join the discord. Anyways IM SO GLAD YOU BOYS LIKED STIGMA ITS SUCH A GREAT SONG❤️(maybe I’ll have y’all react to live performances of these songs before I introduce y’all to blood sweat and tears👀)
Thank you Vivs!! We can talk more about this later on. -E
You go Vivs. I'm enjoying watching the guys putting the effort in to try to figure it out. It seems so familiar to watch them fumble their way through a bit because we all did that. The journey is where most of the fun is. See you on a live soon.
Yass Vivs 🙏🏻🙌🏻💜💜
I've said before you should totally try to figure it out if it's fun for you. I always used to do that and eventually would look for Lives that address it. BTS isn't as careful all the time. They give away secrets if you catch the right Live or behind the scenes 🤣
Actually Stigma is totally connected to the video. And I don’t know where these guys got their information from, but V has actually talked about what this song is about.
If you want actual facts, here is a clip to show V explains stigma - th-cam.com/video/_K9w5rLfHK4/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
The Police asks him about his name and age and then: Parents? And he says: None. At the end he asks: Can I call somebody?
You should watch a live performance of that, he is amazing.
One thing to point out is that Tae actually has an extremely good relationship with his father and considers him as his role model, regardless of the meaning of the song, I wanted to clear this part cause I used to think the same as baby army and the truth couldn’t be further away from the BU
This song by V is something you have to watch live! It’s awesome. His vocals are amazing. 💜
UP!!!!!!
Stigma is basically he's being labelled for that one mistake he did & people only think about that when they look at him. It's so intense that he's guilt driven his whole life & he wants to confide it to someone, but ends up feeling guiltier as that person is disturbed & blames him for burdening them with this. He tries finding some comfort in his brother & sister but feels downweighted. This song is from the first perspective it's basically a guilt ride & how that one thing he did has become his whole definition.
I really do love watching you guys work through these songs. Sometimes you guys are so close, sometimes you completely miss the mark, but we all did that. This is connected to the BU and you guys will figure it out eventually. When you're ready to really dive into the BU it'll all start to come together. The pieces will fall into place.
That's it.. the BU will help a lot ... But I can say that Jake got it hahaahah it's not 100% correct but it's like 80%? The real MV history appears on the BU and you'll get shocked guys 💜
Yes, the Bangtan Universe storyline is complex, heart wrenching and beautiful. And all the songs related to the BU will start to make sense (as much as possible). It’s a rabbit hole of a different kind.
thanks, great response. I found V after “Sweet Night”, after “Stigma” I became interested, and after “Blue and Gray” I realized that I loved him forever. All his songs have a deep meaning, and V's voice is addictive.
i''m not sure who told you he hasn't talked about it. V has been open about the song. In part Its about his feelings of thinking he wasn't good enough/failed too often and it hurt his team. He held back his emotional pain not sharing how he was suffering. He finally broke down telling Jimin and then the members. Please do yourself a favor and watch the live performance!
You're right. The BU story line is about domestic abuse.
V is the one that killed his abusive father in I need you, in the storyline.
V just hits all notes and is a totally diff genre - he’s given texture and depth on BTS’s music for years ❤
There's another channel that has English subtitle for this series. Cause BANGTANTV has no eng sub. Fyi, these short films were related to the BU (BANGTAN UNIVERSITY) where MVs have storyline. If you analyzed these MVs 'I NEED YOU', 'PROLOGED: BUTTERFLY', 'RUN' and 'YOUNG FOREVER', you'll understand and connect them easily.💜 Have a good day!
This song is my favorite one in Wings album. Tae voice is so emotional. This song with Singularity was the reason why I started to being obsessed with BTS music
V recently explained that the song concerned his feelings at that time. He felt he wasn't good enough. He was going through a hard time as was all the members the pressure of the success etc. but he was most affected and felt he let other members down. But V's music ,vocals gets to you. And that's hard for most singers. You should listen the live performance..his voice his performance. I can't explain. You have to watch it. Thank you for reacting to Stigma.
Sorry, but the explanation of V’s burnout didn’t have anything to do with stigma, he wrote Stigma way before his burnout. His burnout had to do with V writing the lyrics to blue & grey. V has explained that Stigma is about his character in the BU.
Here is a link to a clip (@ 0:40) where V talks about Stigma- th-cam.com/video/_K9w5rLfHK4/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
@@snowleopard8588 oh that's interesting. It's just that I recall but I can't recall quite what but I think on Suchwita but I may be be wrong. And I apologise if I am wrong about both..but he said that it related to him being sorry about how his actions had hurt others. That made more sense to me then the BU related one. Thank you for alerting me to this.
@@snowleopard8588he actually explained that stigma was about the guilt he felt towards his family, the times missed etc. See his interview for this album
@@user-wg1lj9jk5g which interview are you referring to and which album. And do you have a link for this interview. I’d love to see it.
For me, (even though I know the story line) Being a spectator to domestic violence impacts a person to their core. being a victim of domestic violence cripples you whether you saw a loved one being hurt. or yourself. It's difficult to deal with and marks you for life. It's hard to go through the grieving stages in life when you continuously try to fight it or ignore it. I know how hard it is personally. In the end there's always consequences. V is my bias because of his vocals and R&B vibe, but Stigma hit home with me. I lived and breathed it growing up. The hardship of your mental and emotional experiences through life is difficult, like you said, I've had to try and balance the good and bad in my life (I'm nearing 60, and it still has its talons in me). I always enjoy your reactions, so thanks!
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I’ve always thought this song was about his siblings. From what he has said, he is much older than his brother and sister, and he doesn’t really have a relationship with them. He said they just text each other when they are planning birthday gifts for their parents. I wonder how their upbringing was compared to his. V’s family pre-BTS was poor farmers, and he was mostly raised his grandmother because his parents had to work. I’m guessing his siblings have had a much different experience. But yeah, no one knows.
The comment about good and evil as opposed to good vs. evil is so spot on for this film. If you remember back to one of the earlier BU MVs (i'm a failure who can't remember if it was RUN or I NEED U), V's character st@bs a man who was beating a girl, and we see those people again in this film. It was an act of violence serving as an act of protection, so both extremes were there, but this film seems to show that V's character and the world around him are able to see actions as only one extreme or the other. It seems as if the focus on that false dichotomy might be worsening the suffering shown in the film.
V once said that this song’s lyrics just fit the BU storyline, not his own life.
should definitely watch this particular song LIVE. its a VIBE.
I am living vicariously through you guys. It is great to watch you really enjoying the journey. Thank you. Don’t fret too much about being right or wrong about the meaning. It is part of the fun and we ARMYS went through the same. Thank you for the reactions. 💜💜💜
I always thought that this one is the easiest one to understand if you have watched the "I need you" MV 🤔
V's vocals are so powerful emotionally. I don't know what he is referring to and I don't even know if his band mates do.
just a little info, there is gonna be a K-Drama coming out about the BU. like a full blown kdrama that will follow everything that happens in the BU. bts isn’t in it, but the actors are very very good
Tae's vocals are 🔥 this song live is awesome 💜💟♾️💜✌️
The lyrics that really get to me are the part of the chorus about broken pieces of glass pushing deeper because a broken glass bottle is what V's character use to st@b someone in a previous BU MV, so I think you're right about the song being connected to the video. I'm sure the lyrics are very personal, but they were able to twist the lyrics to fit the story too.
BU is expalained excelently by xCeleste in two videos. The story is running throughout not just their music albums but also books issued, anime series, their own mobile game etc.
I hope you will react to Slow Dancing and his others new songs there are amazing, very reflective of V and quite different of BTS albums.
The boys have all different styles in their solo projects and it's a journey in itself to discover all these news aspects. Thanks for reacting and keep up the good work!
Hola chicos! Si estáis acertados en la sensación de culpabilidad. Recordáis cuando visteis “ I need U” que su personaje mataba a su padre con una botella de cristal q rompía porque les maltrataba a él y a su hermana. Por eso no puede volver atrás, siente lo que sufrió su hermana y no haber podido protegerla más y también siente matar a su padre como es lógico. Todo es parte de la historia del universo de BTS , no se basa en la vida real de V, que tiene un gran padre al que quiere y admira mucho…
In this song he plays the charater from the complex BU storyline. It's not about him in real life. The abuse you talked about is part of that story.😊
Hi Two and A Half Brothers, just for you to know most of the short videos are related to the BU the 'Bantang universe' so probably after you check the wings and map of the soul albums can check the following video BTS STORYLINE SUMMARY + EXPLAINED | 2020 UPDATE ( th-cam.com/video/2-DEu3ZJtEU/w-d-xo.html )
8:00 I think the entire Wings album revolves around that concept: “balancing” good & evil, because in life you WILL encounter both.
RM's narrations have always sounded wonderful 😊.. plus their acting here and Tae's are so chef's kiss 💜 👌 😍
Army in the area 🙋🏻♀️🥰💜🇧🇷
Plss watch stigma live you amaze the vocal range he has
Ne zaman stigma'yı izlesem, duygulanıyorum. Taehyung'un sesi muhteşem... Video için teşekkürler...
I think the channel Bagtanie Subs has English subtitles for all the films, but it may have all the films in a single video. I really enjoy watching you try to break things down, but watching you try to figure it out without subtitles even though you know the subtitles are giving important information makes my brain itch. It's like the meme of someone saying "this is fine" in the burning room. If you keep watching the original videos that don't have subs, will you pleeeeeeease go back and watch the subbed version after you've watched the rest of the films? I think you'd enjoy a rewatch anyway since you'll be able to see the connections you couldn't have known about in the first watch just because of the release order.
His voice soo smooth soo soft❤
Another great reaction. I wish you guys had remembered or connected this MV to I Need U MV. If you remember in that one he stabbed his dad and killed him with a bottle. Now, this MV has V encountering the police.
In the next few short films you’ll need to pay attention to the black circles ⚫️ at the end of MV. There are 7 members, but only 4 circles. A pairing will occur for the circles which will lead to the MV after these short films.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE also react to Wings Tour Tailer video.
Everytime I hear this song is like the first time! His voice is so smooth but powerful and full of emotion. Although I am unable to have a bias from BTS, V's voice has a special place in my heart! Also this song is even better live !
The quotes RM reads at the beginning are from the novel Demian by Herman Hesse, which relates to the themes of the Bangtan Universe
The Wings project with all the short films is such a unique multi media art project. Each song is so unique yet the complex story line ties it together. Stigma is haunting. As so many of these songs are on Wings.
Hi guys thanks fir your reaction . V kills his father because he was abusing his sister .
Watch a live of this song , it’s longer .
he didn't stand by and watch what happening , he stabbed his father if u don't remember It was a scene from the I need u music video
This song just hits hard, I hope you checkout live performance too some day it's just so good live
You should watch the live concert performance of this ❤
From Tae's songs STIGMA has been my favorite since Ive been an Army.... PD Love your reactions....
bts butter, dna, fake love, idol reaction plz
Always Luv you guys bts reaction ❤
La presentación de STIGMA de bomba
You wondered what the last line of the short video was....V said "Just leave us a phone call" or something to that effect. Maybe someone who knows Korean can verify. I just used Google Translate.
V actually did talk about the song. And I see some comments. I think they're a little off, but it is possible I misunderstood him. He - from my understanding - wrote this about fights that he had, especially with the members, but in general with people he cared about. Things he would say in anger. And then like, why didn't I say I was sorry? Why did I stay silent even though I wanted to tell you I was sorry?And, he would feel guilty Because he wouldn't have the courage to say Im sorry first. He'd feel guilt but not be able to deal with it. I think we can all relate to that. In general, I got the impression it was multiple events before he learned how to be better at expressing his feelings. And being able to resolve arguments without hurting someone in anger. The video is not connected to the song necessarily. Although you can see his guilt and then growth. But it also has lots of BU references not connected to V's life.
No it's not about it, he was talking about BU, but the real story behind this song is unknown
Nope wrong, the song and the video are not related, that’s why I wish your army leader didn’t take you down this road, this is all tied to the Bangtan Universe which a fictional story line.
Rm helped write this song with V, to this day it’s never been said what the son is about, V’s father is his real life hero, he has always said he wants to be a father like his dad, V at the age of I believe 12 lived with his grandparents who were the ones who raised him, no one knows the reason why his grandparents raised him, it may have been because his family being poor it was hard to raise 3 kids or since V is the oldest he may have helped his grandparents on the farm, well he did help, but not sure if there was a reason or not. Anyway as I started to say Rm was explaining the songs of wings album & when it was about Stigma he said Taehyung wrote it & that he can't explain the hidden meaning behind the lyrics! It's Taehyung's very personal song. There is one theory that is not generally discussed in the fandom so I am not going to even say what I believe it’s about, will most likely get hate comments saying this so I would try figuring out or have opened this can of worms, especially now.
As I’ve said these short stories from wings all pertain to the BU which is very complex storyline not based on anything related to the boys personally ( the MV & storyline ) the songs do have personal meanings to the boys, like with Jungkook begin is about his love of his brothers ( members ) since they were the ones who basically raised him, Jungkook has said many times that he thinks that because of this he is who is is today, a little piece of each of them.
I believe XCeleste made a video that explains the whole BU if you want to understand the story, again it’s not just from the video’s & songs, but there are also 2 books written that go along with all of this, very complex you won’t be able to figure out on your own. Many haven’t
en vivo es mejor todavía 😍😍su hermosa voz 😚😚💜💜💚💚
Check out his live performance of stigma
U SHOULD HEAR SINGULARITY
10:18 Just starting out you ought to be able to have an idea of what he’s talking about. Previous videos also give clues. But definitely having watched everything most Army know what’s going on now. It’s cool to come back to watch baby Army try to figure it all out!
Keep in mind that Tae is also an actor and with the emotion he can put into his voice he can make you believe anything!
14:48 Jake is correct. The guilt is from being a coward and not doing something sooner to end the abuse. See not murder, self-defense.
I am surprised none of y’all reacted to his super long high note. 😕
I think it’s fiction and goes really well with the storyline.
introspective song that explores feelings of guilt, remorse, and regret. The lyrics express the artist's struggle with hiding his true self and the consequences of not being able to protect someone he cares about.
In the opening verse, the artist confesses to having hidden something, a secret or emotion, for a long time. They express introspective song that explores feelings of guilt, remorse, and regret. The lyrics express the artist's struggle with hiding his true self and the consequences of not being able to protect someone he cares about.
In the opening verse, the artist confesses to having hidden something, a secret or emotion, for a long time. They express frustration about not being able to bear it any longer and question why they couldn't speak up when it mattered the most. This suggests a fear of vulnerability and the weight of unexpressed emotions building up over time.
verall, "Stigma" is a poignant exploration of the complex emotions tied to guilt, regret, and the desire for forgiveness. Through introspective and evocative lyrics, BTS invites listeners to reflect on their own mistakes and their impact on others. The song showcases the group's ability to delve into sensitive themes and create resonant music that speaks to the depth of human emotions.
I love these 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
The channel Bangtanie Subs has all the Wings Short films with English
My comment is part from an investigation of an ARMY from the Catholic University of Perú her name is: Fernanda Mía Chávez Eyzaguirre. This will help you to understand the meaning behind this video.
"The short film "STIGMA" chronologically represents chapters 2 ("Cain") and 3 ("The Evil Thief") of Demian. However, the quoted narrative at the beginning belongs to the first chapter: "It was [...] the first blow to the pillars upon which my childhood had rested and which every man has to destroy in order to be himself. [...] The tear heals and is forgotten, but inside the being, it continues to exist and bleed" (Hesse 2012: 28). The quote refers to the moment when Sinclair feels superior to his father for not being able to uncover his secret. This break with the divinity of the father is even more pronounced in the case of V, who is not lying to his father but has murdered him. During the interrogation, when the police ask him about his parents, the reflection of a woman is seen in V's pupils, who later appears in short film number 6: MAMA (this recurring symbol in both shorts, linking them, allows considering J Hope, the protagonist of MAMA, as V's new guide or guardian), and later denies the existence of his parents (1:38 - 1:50). When intercepted by the police, V is painting a graffiti with the figure of Abraxas, who, in the novel, "According to Pistorius, [...] can also be considered a god of dreams. [...] Pistorius believes that what one sees in dreams must be what the dreamer does, and one should not fear the consequences of acting on those dreams" (Lee 2016: 39). This echoes the titles of the chapters associated with the short film: a stigma that falls upon one who is not afraid of their dark side and listens to it. Before the end of the short film, the phrase "There are only whales that speak a different language than mine" appears (2:58), and then V requests to make a call, which will try to be answered in vain by RM in "REFLECTION." This refers again to the calls for help that Sinclair makes to Demian in his dreams."
Chicos reaccionen a esta canción en vivo. Plssss.
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I need U version video can help for context, long version.
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Alex you need some colour bro in that bedroom 😂😂
He just moved in. But yeah everything including his skin tone is the same color 😂
@@TAHBofficial totally agree 😂
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in the video is hes stepfather abuse his mom his sin is he killed hes stepfather that's y he said sorry
Please mention it's part of the BU and not based on his real life lol
The lyrics of the song are from his personal life, something unknown, it has no relation to the bangtan universe
THE SONG AND VIDEO DOES NOT GO HAND IN HAND
Plzz react to bts live performances of wings, not today, mic drop, fake love, bapsae ..plz plz plzzz
We don't really know what is this song about
You guys are misinformed. V has told us what this song is about. He explained that it’s based on what his character was going through in the BU. He said that based on what the character went through, it was a case that his character started to go in the wrong direction and that he started to enjoy the pain. People continue to misinform others that V hasn’t said what it’s about because of what RM said, but that is pure speculation. Yes V may have some personal angle to it which we don’t know, but please be careful in the information provided. V has told us all what this song is about. And this video is reflective of the song 100%, despite what others are saying. By the way there are videos on TH-cam where V explains what this song is about so please check your facts.
Here is a link to a clip (@ 0:40) where V talks about Stigma - th-cam.com/video/_K9w5rLfHK4/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared