1985 Coors International Bicycle Classic

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  • Bernard Hinault works hard for Greg LeMond in this, the first race appearance of the Badger. The roster includes the East Germans. Davis Phinney complains about Hinault sitting on then sprinting for the win, but I think he was right as LeMond his teammate was in the leader's jersey. Coming of a wheel for the win was normal for Phinney; I can't remember him ever soloing in for the victory in the 10 years I raced with him or watched his races. No disrespect, DP is an icon of US racing. Used by permission of the Race Director and Film Producer.

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  • @ianraybetron4300
    @ianraybetron4300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Its really sad that this classic went into its demise...it could truly be a great cycling saga like the Tour de France....America's version.

    • @JB-uv4hm
      @JB-uv4hm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because cycling is a joke in the USA.

    • @peainapodtube
      @peainapodtube หลายเดือนก่อน

      no it can't

  • @kennethmcdonald4807
    @kennethmcdonald4807 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Awesome film. I lived in Boulder during the 7-11 era, back when I wished for nothing more than to go really fast on my bicycle. Legions of fast guys to chase, great time and place, there then.

  • @dansotelo228
    @dansotelo228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow, I just stumbled into this great video. True Story... At the time I was working for the Shimano /Japan Group and I was in charge of their SHOGUN bike design program. I literally had a full-on Shogun bike display inside the bay warehouse where the racers flew by just inches from the Shogun display and the crazy spectators. Also, that was the day fell in love with my wife of 24 years. She was the secretary of Shimano's USA president at the time, as she was sent to assist me on the Shogun display. Somewhere I still have pictures of stage two where the racers were a blur across the Shogun booth. And yes, some of the Shimano family attended our wedding, and it also sparked a trend of many Shimano family members and staff also getting married.

    • @peterquest6406
      @peterquest6406 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shogun + love , always the way 🙂

    • @ralphc1405
      @ralphc1405 ปีที่แล้ว

      WOW--so you witnessed when Shimano perfected the DT index shifting right when the peloton was still using friction!

    • @freedomlover24-7
      @freedomlover24-7 ปีที่แล้ว

      My best year of riding was on Okinawa 99-2000 while stationed there. Team Shimano came there to train once and I jumped in line with them for a fast ride, until the road went up and they were gone. I road a Cannondale and the locals were crazy about it. Weekend group rides were fun.

  • @cesarjom
    @cesarjom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Funny yet ridiculous comment about "dishonorable" for Hinault not pulling in breakaway then winning sprint against Phinney -- that's called smart tactical racing and look who won the stage!

  • @JB-uv4hm
    @JB-uv4hm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    18:19 thanks for immortalizing what a tool Phinney was.

    • @thekenthouse6428
      @thekenthouse6428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @13:07 and such a team player! This guy's legacy's well-deserved.

    • @freedomlover24-7
      @freedomlover24-7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      18:33 best answer 😂... because I'm not stupid.

    • @shaunb93291
      @shaunb93291 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've always been a Davis fan, but watching these Coors races over the years, he sure had some classic hissy fits

    • @JMcLeodKC711
      @JMcLeodKC711 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jesus Christ Davis….the guy had only won 10 grand tours

  • @sebastianlecourt1366
    @sebastianlecourt1366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad took me to see this race as it crested the Trinity Grade climb coming out of Sonoma. This is definitely the hot, dusty NorCal I remember from my youth!

  • @kurtg3891
    @kurtg3891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember watching this on TV in 1985 and now coincidently i live in the middle of the 4000 ft climb to Yuba pass where Phinney & Hinault broke away... starting in Downieville its a loong way to the top, about 24 miles continuous climbing,... then going south to Truckee after that on hiway 89 involves a few other massive climbs as well... very impressive Phinney was able to last through all that climbing with Hinault as even on a bad day Bernie could usually have left him or anyone else behind somewhere at many points along that route ... i think for Hinault this race was a recovery week from his earlier season of racing hard and winning his 5th Tour and that day following Phinney was one where he just wanted to use the opportunity to practice his sprint ?

    • @sebastianlecourt1366
      @sebastianlecourt1366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hinault had actually done the Giro-Tour double that year, so he was definitely running on fumes.

    • @mytyrel420
      @mytyrel420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well Steve Bauer was still in the overall lead, so teammate Hinault had no incentive to help with the break. Plus Lemond was really who their team was riding for anyway. It was pretty ridiculous of Davis Phinney to be such a sore loser about Hinault beating him in a sprint; Hinault had beaten plenty of riders throughout his career that were a lot more worthy than Phinney.

  • @peterquest6406
    @peterquest6406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yep,what I always look forward to when I'm bicycle racing,some good old accordion playing 😭😭😭

  • @byknutz
    @byknutz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool upload, a great watch! I remember holding each other up at stoplights and holding on to the car next to you because it was a pain unscrewing your clips. A team member new a rep for 7-ELEVEN and I got one of Inga Thompsons old frames, I still have it.

    • @ralphc1405
      @ralphc1405 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice--wasn't the team riding ROSSIN frames before Ben Serotta made a name for himself by building frames for 7-eleven??? Love the Rossin, Serotta (rebadged Huffy, Murray), Merckx storyline. Any differences between the frames?

  • @JamieSmith-fz2mz
    @JamieSmith-fz2mz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Possibly the peak of American cycling. Things were never quite like this again after the Coors went away. Even with the Amgen Tour or the USAPC, the American scene has been in a slow steady decline ever since. And the Lance bump was temporary and completely mishandled by USACycling.

  • @erichaheidrich4593
    @erichaheidrich4593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    American Flyers !

  • @bikeyclown4669
    @bikeyclown4669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember when Hinault showed I was so excited to see him race. I didn't understand racing and recovery yet, so I thought he was going to take it seriously. While in the middle of the race there was an article in a Denver newspaper where they interviewed Hinault. He was talking about how he viewed his time during the race as a vacation. There was a picture of him hiking with his wife and kids in the mountains of Colorado where I lived. My education began.

    • @bikeyclown4669
      @bikeyclown4669 ปีที่แล้ว

      @FITNESSOVER45 Maybe he figured that Lemond had moved to France permanently. Television people don't always pay attention to details. He probably had a home or apartment in Europe like American racers do now. However, if I remember correctly, Lemond always had a home in California or Minnesota during his racing years.

    • @freedomlover24-7
      @freedomlover24-7 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was probably having fun and just training for the TDF and helping Lemond win in his own country as Lemond would do for him in France.

  • @londonpickering8675
    @londonpickering8675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn impressive! Thanks for posting.

  • @johncopple6479
    @johncopple6479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    San Francisco !
    No Poop !
    No Needles!
    Just Cyclist's !!
    Mo Siegel saying " I really don't want the Soviet's to Win this Race!"
    💯

  • @BikerDave1
    @BikerDave1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for that. Awesome video.

  • @mrtruth1567
    @mrtruth1567 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sure would like to see 1986.

  • @climberevan
    @climberevan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for uploading this! NBC could learn a lot about how to present cycling to an American audience by watching their own archival footage!
    As for me, it was great to see some of my heroes from before they were household names. I'll definitely be imagining this race next time I climb to Virginia City from Carson.

  • @SuperMilocat
    @SuperMilocat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting!!

  • @BioStuff415
    @BioStuff415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Andy did amazing... and would later win the Giro

    • @williamboike7276
      @williamboike7276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! And in a mountain snow storm!

    • @freedomlover24-7
      @freedomlover24-7 ปีที่แล้ว

      And because how he won he's more famous in Italy than in his own country.

  • @williamboike7276
    @williamboike7276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The commenting is so droll. I believe some of it was added later. it was edited in later. I saw the 7-11 team about that time when they were in Minneapolis. Lemond eventually lived in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area for a while.

    • @jaycahow4667
      @jaycahow4667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lemond live in the Minneapolis western suburbs for almost 30 years and raised his family there before moving to Tennessee a few years ago to be close to his Carbon Fiber factory..

  • @DavidVidaurri
    @DavidVidaurri ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @justanotherjackleg7073
    @justanotherjackleg7073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back before Hinault and the team director Kochli turned on him in '86. If you haven't seen it, check out Slaying the Badger and listen to Kochli's nonsense about the tactics. It's utterly pathetic.

    • @sebastianlecourt1366
      @sebastianlecourt1366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The '85 Tour tactics made perfect sense: send Lemond up the road to mark Roche and see if Hinault could get back on terms after his crash. That way you're keeping all your cards in play, and forcing Roche to suffer. But there should have been better communication in '86. In any case, Hinault's alibi was borne out: he blew up the race, forced Herrera and Zimmerman and Millar to chase, and set the race up for Lemond.

  • @Mustangandtang
    @Mustangandtang 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:48 LOL that's messed up XD

  • @titounoundici7920
    @titounoundici7920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A couple of qs: 1st, is David Phinney Taylor's father? 2nd, I wonder why Pro cycling authorities in USA hasn't so far made any project about a "Tour of USA" or a "coast to coast" race...? We all know about the Tour of California, but it still seems too little thing!

    • @nickdigrispino2409
      @nickdigrispino2409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes he is. Connie Carpenter is Taylor’s mom.

    • @guymorris6596
      @guymorris6596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Davis Phinney and his Coors Light teammates called him Cash Register.

    • @guymorris6596
      @guymorris6596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tour of Utah and Tour of California got shut down because pro cycling isn't as big in the US as it is in Europe. There will never be another pro cycling tour in the US.

    • @sebastianlecourt1366
      @sebastianlecourt1366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If memory serves, some millionaire corporate type unveiled plans for a Tour of America about fifteen years ago. (I remember reading about it in CycleSport while in grad school, which would have been 2004-09.) The plan was considered ridiculous at the time, and probably rightly. I preferred the Coors' approach of targeting specific regions instead of traversing the continent. The best version was in '87, when they had stages in Hawaii, then stages in California, and then the usual finale in Colorado.

    • @michaelstratton5223
      @michaelstratton5223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think too many people just don't understand it here in the USA for a grand tour thing to go over well. I've volunteered to help direct the course/keep traffic out at a couple different races in Michigan and so many drivers were just astounded and annoyed at the fact that the streets were closed off. Because driving to the gas station for Doritos and cigarettes is way more important than a cycling race. Even on weekends, in neighborhoods where literally nobody works on the weekend. Americans just suck. Who knows why.

  • @bradford_shaun_murray
    @bradford_shaun_murray ปีที่แล้ว

    46:38 .. woah

  • @joeenglert
    @joeenglert ปีที่แล้ว

    geez...those announcers didn't give greg the respect they should have....they make it sound like hinault was the reason greg won and that is that

    • @mytyrel420
      @mytyrel420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The commentary is atrocious throughout. Great footage though.

    • @joeenglert
      @joeenglert 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mytyrel420 ya,,,alexisand connie should have kept their mouths shut