What's interesting to see here is how in the second match as soon as Tea takes the lead Ken drops the careful, slower paced gameplay to try and regain a lead, but instead immediately begins taking percent damage cuz of that recklessness. It seems to be something most Sonic players do once they lose initiative, and to be honest I love seeing that situation where they're forced to play more honest and straightforward.
It's unfortunately the huge flaw sonic's optimal strategy has. Awful disadvantage and great advantage. I main him and try not to camp but approaching as sonic comes down to two things: 1.) Can you mix up with enough dash dancing and u-air fastfalls against shield?, 2.) Can you mix up spindash and utilize spindash with platforms well?. In both cases sonic doesn't really have anything safe on shield and spindash is easy to at least trade and worst cases beat spindash out. Doesn't help most sonics I have seen are too predictable with spindash too. Combining that leads to sonic struggling to take a stock if they didn't get the kill confirms at the right percent. Characters with disjointed or large fast hitboxes are even better at this; corrin for instance is good at dealing with sonic since they pretty much shutdown all sonic's approaches.
Sonic doesn't have very spammable neutral moves in the first place. So obviously he isn't going to rush in like people think he can. Really his Spin Dash or Spin Charge is the safest move because it moves fast, not that it doesn't have lag. The way Fox pressures is what people think Sonic should be like if he's aggressive but he just isn't, in actuality.
well, when you only practice getting damage and getting out, it’s pretty hard to make a comeback. Sonic matchup always feels like whoever has the 20% lead is gonna win the game.
He made Sonix ragequit in one of their sets, that’s how patient Tea is. I guarantee that he hates Sonic and does this kind of playstyle to piss them off.
I've never seen tea lose a game and not come back with a whole new level gameplay. His adaptation and growth skills are another level. He's like Gohan in Dragonball Z
I'm ngl, I don't know why Ken went cloud. It surprised me to say the least...I think if he was more patient as sonic he would have made it a much closer match
@@janswhatsupdocit’s not that he chooses to be lame, Sonics playstyle is just so lame and it’s the character that he practices the most. You’re gonna be adapted to the playstyle of the character you play the most and Ken’s character he plays the most is Sonic.
That time you see Pac-Man is too op. Mobility, defense and strong hits. What’s the weakness again? Oh, it’s distance. Right, let’s call Galaga to the rescue.
@@sonicbionic I watched other fights with the same PacMan (the one against Sonic), and the strat was same: just kite, drop an obstacle, then mid range special. Pretty boring tbh. And yeah: Jejajeja winning once doesn’t mean he can win all. - I like his game style tho, hope the best for him.
Oh, I thought we were under Jejajeja's lost round against the same pacman xD So, I'm genuinely not ranking PacMan this high, more parries may have got to better melee range. But as it stands, there's not much errors from KEN, where there's not much *at all* from Tea.
I don't want ANYONE hating on Sonix again, because we have proof that it's the character at fault, who was made with almost no weaknesses, if they play campy.
Well no shit cuz he on cam, It’s on the app that he starts shit (I can’t type out or TH-cam deletes the comment) Dude makes salt posts crying about playstyles and deletes them afterwards
What's interesting to see here is how in the second match as soon as Tea takes the lead Ken drops the careful, slower paced gameplay to try and regain a lead, but instead immediately begins taking percent damage cuz of that recklessness.
It seems to be something most Sonic players do once they lose initiative, and to be honest I love seeing that situation where they're forced to play more honest and straightforward.
It's unfortunately the huge flaw sonic's optimal strategy has. Awful disadvantage and great advantage. I main him and try not to camp but approaching as sonic comes down to two things: 1.) Can you mix up with enough dash dancing and u-air fastfalls against shield?, 2.) Can you mix up spindash and utilize spindash with platforms well?. In both cases sonic doesn't really have anything safe on shield and spindash is easy to at least trade and worst cases beat spindash out. Doesn't help most sonics I have seen are too predictable with spindash too. Combining that leads to sonic struggling to take a stock if they didn't get the kill confirms at the right percent. Characters with disjointed or large fast hitboxes are even better at this; corrin for instance is good at dealing with sonic since they pretty much shutdown all sonic's approaches.
Sonic doesn't have very spammable neutral moves in the first place. So obviously he isn't going to rush in like people think he can. Really his Spin Dash or Spin Charge is the safest move because it moves fast, not that it doesn't have lag. The way Fox pressures is what people think Sonic should be like if he's aggressive but he just isn't, in actuality.
well, when you only practice getting damage and getting out, it’s pretty hard to make a comeback. Sonic matchup always feels like whoever has the 20% lead is gonna win the game.
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I literally laughed out loud at the actual 10 whole seconds Tea spent just dashing and rolling after regrabbing bell
He's really good at that. I'll never forget what he did against Esam😂😂
@@megasalamence4868he shaved esam head? Back in the boxing match ?? The lore deepen…
Tea's patience this set was crazy, even with the lead he played slow and steady.
He made Sonix ragequit in one of their sets, that’s how patient Tea is. I guarantee that he hates Sonic and does this kind of playstyle to piss them off.
Damn this set went hard
Hard to watch 😁👍
I would honestly watch Steve vs Pac-Man over specifically KEN vs Pac-Man
My phallus went hard for ogrepon
I've never seen tea lose a game and not come back with a whole new level gameplay. His adaptation and growth skills are another level. He's like Gohan in Dragonball Z
Plz stop saying that Sonix has a toxic gameplay if you have not watched Ken playing like this in 2024 💀
All sonic players are trash so who cares 💀
Tea styled on wraith for almost 1 hour is the only reason why I could tolerate pac/sonic
I hope Tea becomes a sonic slayer, the meta needs some
He’s beaten sonix, wrath x2, Ken multiple times and some of the other lesser Sonics in Japan
He already is
He made Sonix ragequit in one of their sets one time, he already is the Sonic slayer
@@farewell418that was DDee but tea does have the dub on sonic indeed
Why does everyone hate sonic
Mannn tea makes me want to play Pac-Man . He makes him look so fun with all the wacky stuff he can do .
Did a game really just end with both players till having 2 whole stocks 😭😭 this is just pathetic
why is the comment section so damn negative?
ofc they're playing it safe even more than their patient gameplan, this is grand fucking finals
you can see the sonic playstyle in his cloud.
I'm ngl, I don't know why Ken went cloud. It surprised me to say the least...I think if he was more patient as sonic he would have made it a much closer match
@@megasalamence4868Cloud does much better against pac than sonic so maybe that’s why
And his seph is the same too, further proves my point that players choose to be lame even if sonic was better designed
@@janswhatsupdocit’s not that he chooses to be lame, Sonics playstyle is just so lame and it’s the character that he practices the most. You’re gonna be adapted to the playstyle of the character you play the most and Ken’s character he plays the most is Sonic.
Ken if you play cloud you’d gain new fans overnight.
That's what Ken get from going against a true goat. This is a lesson to not play like El Cheapo (spargo) and 7 minute sonic
Sonic is so boring to watch, not even the best Pac-Man in th world and most creative can make that matchup good.
3:24 hella custy
That time you see Pac-Man is too op.
Mobility, defense and strong hits. What’s the weakness again? Oh, it’s distance. Right, let’s call Galaga to the rescue.
are you one of those "hes s tier" dudes? hes honestly isnt
@@sonicbionic I watched other fights with the same PacMan (the one against Sonic), and the strat was same: just kite, drop an obstacle, then mid range special. Pretty boring tbh.
And yeah: Jejajeja winning once doesn’t mean he can win all.
- I like his game style tho, hope the best for him.
Oh, I thought we were under Jejajeja's lost round against the same pacman xD
So, I'm genuinely not ranking PacMan this high, more parries may have got to better melee range. But as it stands, there's not much errors from KEN, where there's not much *at all* from Tea.
I don't want ANYONE hating on Sonix again, because we have proof that it's the character at fault, who was made with almost no weaknesses, if they play campy.
Fact is at least Ken knows how to take an L unlike sonix who whines and bitches about other characters and playstyles
@@janswhatsupdoche whines and complains? When does he do that? I don’t watch his podcasts or LG interviews so I don’t know anything about him
Well no shit cuz he on cam, It’s on the app that he starts shit (I can’t type out or TH-cam deletes the comment)
Dude makes salt posts crying about playstyles and deletes them afterwards
Sonic gotta be the absolute most dreadful character to watch ever
If you gotta play smash like this are you even having fun?
i started the video and went to put food in the microwave and came back and it was 16% to 8% 😐
OKAY TEA IM WATCHING NOW
34342342423432429389489239482394 Hi all. Breathe air. To life. God made all things. His son, Jesus, pardoned all of all wrongs.
This was probably the most boring match ive ever seen. Good players but boring as hell match
Ken washed
Poor commentator … imagine having to cast these two boring players.
*1 boring player
Ain’t no way ya just said tea boring
Cope.@@janswhatsupdoc
Imagine calling tea boring 🗿
@@BannedfromOUin5secs Don't need to. i did.
Tea is fun to watch imo, KEN is undeniably boring
Boring AF
japanese players are so patient and boring
Only Ken plays like that don’t be stupid
Literally that’s only Ken and other sonic players
Someone needs their harbor destroyed huh
oh my god, i hate it when i see someone play the game differently!
i wanna see captain falcon mains mash and run around the stage!
chip damage