How Much Lift to Fit 37s, 38s or 40s on a Super Duty?
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- This video covers what you need to know when trying to fit 37x13.50, or larger, tires on a 6.7 Powerstroke. It also covers how well 40x15.50 Mud Grapplers fit on skinny stock wheels, with wheel spacers, and gives more information on stretching a lift kit or stacking leveling kits. This video also gives background information for my Grappaholics instagram page and how I was successful in growing it.
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Thanks for posting the vid... liking the 40s on the stock 20x8.5... that's the route I am going. Going to do a 40x13.5... we'll see how much they rub. 6" blocks rear... 3.5" spacer front on long limited springs. Wheels wells are at 48" right now with the stock 34.5s.
MrShankspony sounds like a plan
Your truck is awesome 👍
You can get away with a lot on these 08 + square faced Super Duties, the front wheel wells and are a lot larger than the 99-07 trucks. Smaller bumper profile also. Great video, Great looking trucks.
Magnus Prime E1 Much appreciated! Have you seen my more recent tire videos where I fit 38x15.50s on just a 1in leveling kit?
GRAPPAHOLICS I’m definitely going to check that out.
Personally I don’t think I could choose between the two, both have there advantages! My 2010 f250 is set up like tjs with the same tire size and all but wanting to go kinda between on mine with maybe 6.5” up front 4” in the back with 38x15.50s grapps with my stocks! Love this videos man!
Ethan Lane that setup should be a perfect middle ground between these two! Thanks for watching and the positive feedback. Tell your buddies to subscribe so I can catch up to my Instagram page lol
For the 2017s and up, now you can get the Carli radius arms and it will fix the radius arm rub. They are expensive but they are notched in a way that allows a bit more room for bigger tires. Also, they make the new torsion sway bar which gives you more room for the front. Carli isn't stupid. Those two items add up to over $2000, but you won't rub!
That's awesome! I'll have to look into those. We installed some Carli goodies on my friends 6.0 powerstroke a while back if you checkout some of my older videos
@@GRAPPAHOLICS I'll check them out. After my comment I was talking to a major Carli installer and he said that the torsion bar will definitely get rid of rub on a truck with the 2.5" lift/37" tires/stock wheels, however, there will probably still be rub on the radius arm even with the new Carli ones. I believe it makes it way less noticeable though.
I just picked up a 2021 F350 CCSB and I plan on either going cheap with the Readylift 2.5" spacer level with their track relocation bracket and track bar and 1" bigger blocks in the back or just go for the Carli Back Country 2.5" coil lift. Either way I want to keep my stock wheels so I'm paying for the Carli torsion sway bar and radius arms.
I have Carli 2.5” and just fit 37x13.50 ridge grapplers on 20” -15 fuels. 1” bumper spacer and minor trimming on back of fenders. Plenty of room
Clean.
So I have a 2014 f350 6.7 diesel. I currently have 3" leveling kit and 37x13.50x18s. It rubs on the arms and the stability arm. I just bought 37x13.50x18 mud grapplers. They appear to be a little bit wider and a little bit taller than the current 37s. I wan to run 2" spacers but I wanted to make sure they will clear the bottom of the fender on cab side. It looks like it's gonna be close but I want to make sure before I waist the money's on spacers. Still factory rims.
I have always preferred not to run spacers and just not turning full lock vs risking the tires hitting the fenders or bumper.
Thanks for going to bat on diesel podcast good stuff man I’m looking for a link to my congressman in Florida
WhiteDogDieselTuning inc Powerstroke Diesel i have a link on my most recent EPA video with the tuner and straight pipe as the cover picture. The link will email your representatives based on your address etc.
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i like the 250 Super Duty PowerStroke Diesel
I have 37" Toyos on 22×10's. 2017 F250 with BDS 2" Leveling kit and FOX shocks. No cutting at all.
I have a 2019 f250 , going to get a bds 2in leveling kits also with fox shocks .. I got a deal on some 37x13.50R20 tires with the wheels .. do you think I'll have to cut anything or if they will rub ? Also how does the rude feel now in your truck compared to stock ride ?
I like those tires
I’m a little obsessed with them
I’m trying to figure out what tire size to get for my truck, I’m doing a 6 inch lift and aftermarket 20x12 with -51 offset, thinking about doing 38s but you think I could fit 40s if I trim some stuff?
I have a 2017 250, it might be a dumb question but does 3.5” leveling kit also come with 1” kit for the rear. Getting close to pulling the trigger on 37s w/ a 3.5” leveling kit. Love the look.
Guillermo Perez Depends on the brand, the kit should have a list of what all it comes with. In my opinion a leveling kit is only for the front, but 3.5 is big enough you would want another inch in the rear to keep it from squatting so it’s hard to say.
The trucks look great! Will stock oem 18 wheels fit a 38x13.50 under my 2020 F250 with the Ready Lift 3.5 SST kit with some trimming and removal of the lower valance under the bumper? If not, I could use an aftermarket wheel. What is the best offset to pull this off? Do I need to stretch the 3.5” kit by adding another inch? What do I buy? Thanks and great video as always.
Thank you for checking out some of my videos! I just replied to your other comment but to add to that I would recommend keeping the stock wheels with no spacers because that helps you clear the body of the truck the best when you have a small lift. That will be a great looking setup. You could switch to the 2wd smaller valance also which looks really nice in my opinion
Just rewatched this video to refresh myself. Im doing a 3.5" suspension lift but debating between 37's or 38's on the stock 20" wheel. If 37s rub on the radius arms id imagine 38s would rub even more. Does that sound about right?
just go to either wheel spacers or 20x9 aftermarket
Bro that's the same setup I picked up for my 2020 f250but I added a add a leaf to bring the rear back up with nitro shocks.
37 13.50 22's
That’s awesome man, I bet that looks clean with the add a leaf
I have a 19 alumaduty and run trail graps on a 2.5" level on stock platinum wheels no spacers. Rubs at full luck but i try to plan for that wherever I go and if i have to turn i just crank it amd let er eat lol
Jose Gutierrez That’s the way to do it!
Get the Carli radius arms. They are notched to give a little more room back there.
do you know where to get the FX4 vinyl wrap decal for the rear ??
Just got a 17 plati! Much love from VA man will deff be shooting you a dm when it gets the lift and grapps! Wondering if it will sit a little higher in the front with 4" lift up front and the rear stock? Basically, did the truck in the vid have the blocks installed that came with the kit?
It should sit similar to this truck I believe because I think he left the rear stock. 4in in the front will be somewhat noticeably higher than the stock rear though. I think it takes about 2in to level it so if you leave the rear stock it will have a 2in squat.
@@GRAPPAHOLICS awesome thanks for the response man!
@@dyharris007 no worries, any time!
I’ve got a 2010 F-250 King Ranch. I’d like to put 37s on the stock 20” wheels. What are your thoughts on lift and wheel spacers? Trucks look great by the way....
Somehow I just saw this. Have you made any moves on your setup yet? I was very pleased with my stocks and spacers setup. Just do your homework on the spacers
You think I can get 40x13.50/20s under my 21 f250 with a 6 inch lift??
My f250 2018 diesel 6.7 has a 6inch lift, 37's on 20x10 . I am changing it to 17x8.5 still on 37's going back to old school showing more black sidewall, it also white color truck ,let's me know what you think. 🤠👍
I say you can’t go wrong with more sidewall, usually looks better to me. I am a big fan of the stock wheels though too
How many miles do you get out of your mud graps. I currently have ridge graps. I drive 7 days a week 35 mins one way to work
I usually put 25k miles on them and then sell them before they start to look old. They sell pretty high used
I have a 2020 F250 Rocky Ridge with a 6 inch lift. Currently has 37x12.5r20 with no rubbing but want to switch to 40x13.5 do you think it would work?
I’m in the same boat. I wanna keep my Plati wheels 20s and put it on 40s with a 6inch.
2021 Superduty on a 6inch bds radius arm lift kit can I fit 38.13.5 wheels are 24x12 TIS ....is a bumper spacer required if so what size ?
Thanks for watching man! I saw your Instagram DM and I said 37s but 38s could work possibly
What size lift you got?
Can I fit 38s on a 2 inch level ? I have a 06 f250 4x4
17 f350 3.5 lift front 6” rear looking at 22x12 -44 offset with 38 13.5’s what do i need to trim any trimming required I currently have stock rims with 37’s and it only rubs on radius arms
Not sure if you tried it yet or not but those wider wheels with more offset will make it rub on the body a lot more. Hard to say how much trimming you would need. Probably more than you would be willing to do. 38s on stock wheels would fit pretty nicely. I have another video of me barely fitting 38s on stock wheels with only a 1in level and a homemade bumper spacer
I hear EVERYONE talk about suspension geometry. What about driveline angles?
That’s a huge factor as well! Pretty complicated based on what you’re trying to do, but I made no modifications to my drive shafts with 10in of lift
On my 2013 f250 can I fit 38x15 with 18x12 wheels with 8inch lift? I would like no rubbing or trimming. Truck currently has 6inch lift with 35x12.50x18 with 18x12 wheels and doesn't rub at all.
The 38s on 18x12s should work well with an 8in lift. They might rub on the frame some at full lock since they are bigger and wider, but I believe they would fit pretty well.
In AZ I’m seeing lots of stock width wheels on nice lifts it looks clean. That deep dish wheel thing look terrible
How much psi (air) u use in the 15.50s on that rim to make tires life more?
I honestly don’t have a solid recommendation for that. I didn’t pay attention to what the shop aired them up to and never had any issues. With this narrow of a wheel and wide tire they are going to wear somewhat more in the middle of the tire especially with too much psi. I haven’t had any unusual wearing issues yet though
Hey man I have a 16 f250 and looking to do a 4inch bds lift and 38.15.50 mudgrapps on stock wheels would I be able to pull it off
I see you checked out some of my other videos with the platinum I had on 38s, I think you’d be fine it would just rub on the radius arms a little at almost full lock
I have a stock f250 2022, i want to fit 38s but i don’t want to lift it to much, can i just put leveling kit and spacers?
I would recommend a 3.5in, give or take an inch, with no spacers. Here is a better video of me fitting 38s with a 1in lift. Not practical but good example for fitment. A 4in BDS lift kit would be really nice.
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I have a 7.3 which has leaf springs, can I run 40 graps on stocks and clear my leaf springs
They might rub on the leaf springs some but you should be able to turn a decent amount still
Can I put 37x13.50r20 on 2015 f250 6.7 with 3” on front and 2” on back level kit
On stock rims
I have a 6” lift can I fit 40x15.50s on my stock 20s with 2” wheel spacers
Jacob probably with a little rubbing. Checkout this video that shows how much clearance I had at full lock on 40s & 2in spacer.
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I have a 2014 King Ranch with 20 inch stocks. I want 37x12.5x20 on some new 20 inch wheels. What wheel dimension will I need with minimal lifting?
Honestly you will have the easiest time fitting those tires with the stock wheels because they are so sunk in to the wheel well. They will rub on the radius arms and wheel well liner but if you get a wider wheel that sticks out more they with rub bad on the bumper and fender
Also here is a video of me fitting 38s with stocks and a 1in lift to give a better explanation.
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@@GRAPPAHOLICS I want new wheels, anyway
Is the 1.5” leveling kit just the springs?
Yes I believe that’s what he had. I have had 1.5in spacer leveling kits but his was new springs in addition to a ready lift spacer
Does the spare tire fit in stock spare tire location? If not what do you do in the event you get a flat tire?
These larger tires, 37s, do not fit in the stock spare location. What I have done is kept a spare at home in case I ever needed it around town I could have my buddy bring it to me. On a trip I have brought it in the bed with a locked bed cover or a cable lock of some sort. Definitely inconvenient but it is also not as common to get a flat with these beefier tires.
@@GRAPPAHOLICS cool thanks for the info
It all depends on wheel width and offset
100% and I recommend running the factory wheels on a smaller lift for maximum clearance. Big lift and you can do whatever you want
Hey guy I got a f350 single not dually I got some rims the fuel octane 22x14 I want to put 40s tires nitto trail grapplers but what lift would I need
Savage wolf When I was on 14 wides and 40s I rubbed a little with 10in lift so I would say about 10in would do the trick
GRAPPAHOLICS alright sounds good man
Does the 1.5” coil actually do anything? I have a 3.5 Readylift and 37s also and my truck looks the same as his height wise
Will Ivey I was wondering that as well. It doesn’t seem like 5in of lift but I’m sure it does lift it some since it sits higher in the front. My 1.5 rough country spacer that I used to have on mine definitely lifted it plenty. Hard to say with the coils
Will Ivey you care to send some pics of your truck would like to see what the 3.5 does to it on 37.
Can you fit 38x15.5r20 on 2.5 level
Barely, but it looks epic. Check out my other video where I put 38s on a 1.5in.
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Can you still tow with spacers ?
ACanela85 If you have quality spacers that are installed properly you should be ok. Checkout my towing with spacers video.
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I have an 2004 ford excursion I want to put 37/13.50/26 tires with 26 inch rims how much do I lift do I need on my truck please help!!
You can’t go wrong with 8in lift or more. 6in would probably be the minimum and it would definitely rub some
GRAPPAHOLICS I can only find an 6 inch lift for my 2004 ford excursion because it’s a 2wd do I need to trim so it won’t rub???
I can only find an 6 inch lift for my 2004 ford excursion limited because it’s 2wd do I need to trim to make them fit ????
What about a 2000 f250.
Can I put a 37’s with a 3.5” lift?
You should be able to if you don’t run huge wheels. With stock wheels they might rub on the frame some, but as your wheels stick out more with spacers or negative offset, they start to rub on the wheel well and bumper. That body style doesn’t have quite as much room so just have to get the offset right and maybe trim a little
why would you go with 13.50s? the stock wheels are only like 8 inches wide right? theres no point to running 13.50 wides unless you wheels are 12 wide
Brandon Abdella because I like to party, I had 15.50s on my stock wheels. They only concern I’ve encountered is them wearing slightly more in the center, but it’s very minimal
@@GRAPPAHOLICS so there is no appearance or performance benefit? just because? lol
Brandon Abdella Well I’d say there is an appearance benefit because it looks amazing, and your wheel is very protected if you were to hit a curb at the mall or a rock on the trail. Not a tough as bead locks would be though obviously
What brand of tires was he running
Nitto Mud Grapplers on both trucks
Did he have any rear blocks?
If he did it would have been whatever the ready lift kit comes with. I’m not sure
What was the stock tire size his?
275/65/20
New super duty with 4.5 inch lift and 38s. 20x10s? Good?
That should work pretty well. If the offset of the wheels sticks out pretty far it could run some
@@GRAPPAHOLICS good thanks
kjm_raptor. 40x13.5r17 On SVT Raptor
what is the actual ground clearance with the truck on 37's?
I haven’t measured one to check but as far as the axles ground clearance compared to factory tires, factory being about a 34in tire, it should have an additional 1.5in of ground clearance.(1/2 of the amount of tire increase which is 3in larger than stock). Any lift or leveling kit will add additional bumper/body clearance but the axles only get more clearance with larger tires. Sorry if that wasn’t anything you didn’t already know. That’s all the info I can think of.
@@GRAPPAHOLICS thank you for getting back to me I realize that this is an older post. It's nice to have big tires and have your body way up off the ground but really if you can't clear a 12-in obstacle it doesn't make much sense to have your truck 48 inches off the ground.
@@markseeling1723 No worries, I agree! I sold my big king ranch and have some more modest trucks now. Feel free to checkout some of my newer videos if you get a chance.
I have 37s on a 6 inch ready lift 2013 f250 it does not rub now can i squeeze 38s ?
You probably could! What size and width wheels do you have?
@@GRAPPAHOLICS i have 20 x 10s not sure offset i think a -19 or more
@@ajp1027 I would say go for it! I think they’d fit well enough
Where can I get a pair of mud grapps from 37s
Hard to say right now. They are out there but hard to come by currently.
@@GRAPPAHOLICS I see for the 37s everywhere back order
How do your spacers hold up off road
J Durastrommins haven’t had any issues yet, I don’t do much off-roading, but check out my “can you tow with spacers” video
GRAPPAHOLICS yessir just ordered 2.5” spacers I’m always on a construction sight using 4x4 do you have a insta I can direct msg you
J Durastrommins I sure do. It’s called grappaholics just like the channel. I’ll keep an eye out for your dm
I have a f150 with rough country 5 inch lift is it possible to fit 37s I’ve been told by rough country It can but I’m going have to trim ?
Henry Bruno what year is it and what size wheels are you planning on running
2017 xlt f150 I want to run 37X12.50X20
Henry Bruno I think you should be fine with mild offset wheels or the stock wheels with spacers if needed. I’m going to ask on the Grappaholics insta if anyone is running 37s with 5in lift
Henry Bruno just made a post with a red f150 on Instagram asking about tire fitment with that setup. Someone should have some answers in the comments
GRAPPAHOLICS I can send you a pic of my wheels and the truck bro
Just change the bumper
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The New Superduties are taller stock wise am I right ?
Psychopath96 they are but I believe a lot of that is the size of the body so it doesn’t make that much difference.
The 19 is squatting.. why put such a Cheepo lift on an expensive truck ?
because he spent all his money on the truck
He can go to a 5 or 6 inch block in the rear and level out.
Man trapped in a kid 👶 body 😂
Zachary Savoy that’s what all the white boys look like from Mississippi 😂
Alunte Tate lmao 🤣
Based on the way you drive these I would bet my 03 Honda Accord has seen more off roading than these work princesses.
Probably true!
I got 37s on my f250 now with a 3” and I wana put 38s on it so bad but I use it to tow a fifth wheel 🥹
That’s tough! 38s look so good, but they are definitely a lot heavier. Might be best to stick with 37s if towing heavy often
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Why In the hell would you wanna run mud grapplers for the road?
Kris why not?
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What is your Facebook. I have questions and some picks I would like to send you of my truck.
Devil dog you should be able to reach me under the same name, Grappaholics, on Facebook and especially Instagram
@@GRAPPAHOLICS ok thanks bro.
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Ronald Reagan as long as you subscribe and stay subscribed I’ll continue to follow you on the Grappaholics instagram
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I have a 06 f250 on a 8 inch lift can I put stocks with 37x13.50 with 2” spacers and be Okay?
J Durastrommins what wheels do you have? If you have the factory ones you should have no problem clearance wise. If your wheels are pretty wide you could have some rubbing. Make sure you get quality one piece hub centric spacers.
GRAPPAHOLICS my truck is on 24x14 forces I’m taking them off. I have 2016 F250 platinum wheels I was going to put 37 13.50 mud graps with 2” spacers
J Durastrommins that will look awesome and I think 2in spacers will be perfect for that setup! I have an older video comparing my Trail Grapplers on 24x14s and my stocks and mud Graps. You might get some more info from that
GRAPPAHOLICS what kind of spacers do I need and what brand do you recommend
J Durastrommins I have shifted industries 2in 8x170 lug pattern hub centric spacers and I would recommend them so far. I did a lot of research and heard they were the best