I just realized something, the title of this page isn't "John: Rise Up" the way most pages are titled, but "JOHN. RISE UP" the way WV typed when he was commanding John. That's because the title isn't about John rising to God Tier, but WV yelling at John to get up, because as far as he knows, John just died and WV desperately wants him to come back.
I love how cool the paradoxes in this book, web comic, novel whatever you want to call it. I just find it so cool that the WV that was talking to John before he died had already lived the events that John was about to go through its really thought out imo.
This scene is very special to me. It is... the very first time anyone in homestuck really and truley DIED. Sure, many other deaths would follow, and yet... this is the start of it all, this is the very first character to go. And, in a way... he is gone forever. The real him, although still living up 'in the clouds', real him is forever dead on that rock, and its sad to think about. But, that and other moments like this are what make homestuck worth reading, in the end
I never saw it like that. Whenever godtier occurred, it always seemed like the character's dual consciousness (Waking and Dreaming) would collapse into something akin to a "true" self, awakened to powers they were predestined to have and indeed always had to begin with.
Darugo Sueño Yeah i find it like that you have to be killed on your quest bed and once you do your God Tier transformation will begin, and you will be born a new or resurrected, so all Bec Noir, did by stabbing John was lead him to gaining his permanent God Tier form so jokes on him.
OronkonPhoenix of course her, but the first time any character in the main world had died, one of the main 4 kids but in the flesh, died, you know what I mean?
Yes, Heir of grief may be very beautiful. But this song will forever be my favorite Homestuck song. Actually, no, it's in a tie with heir of grief. Both are so beautiful.
It's been a while since ACT 7 went out, and Homestuck 'ended', and now I see this again. Years in the past, (but not many,) I read Homestuck on a whim; on a recommendation of a friend. This was the flash that sold the webcomic for me. When I got here, I knew that it was worth it, and that it would be good.. That was a long, long, time ago. Cheers to Homestuck, the adventure and the experience, and all the years and the friends we've made along the while! And now you say that it's ending, that it's dead? HOMESTUCK FANDOM. RISE UP.
I meant, in normal cases the "Ascension Command" looks like this: "John: Ascend." Indicating that it is the player/AH telling the characters what to do. In this case the command text is " JOHN. RISE UP",similar to when WV was giving John orders. WV tells John to get up because he thinks/is afraid John is dead. And that made me sad. :( Maybe I should have made that more clear... :P I basically meant the same thing as '989FOX989' who has the top comment... :P
The first time Bec Noir ever made you like him ever was when he saved Jade's life then went straight back to making you hate him, by killing all the exiles except WV and PM.
I swear, my reaction was pretty interesting when I found out that quest beds weren’t beds that you sleep in that give you powers, but just stone slabs that you die on. Also can I get an F for john’s old outfit
also, that outfit is alchemized from his old shit and vriska's outfit. Considering she technically let him to die here, it was probably a weird wish of hers for him to ascend in her fit
this was a DEATH. The John we saw and loved in the first page of this comic is dead. he is of no more. this flash invoked years from me seeing our main character die. thank you for good times hussie.
Red Lemonade first john died to typheus, and then alpha john took over. second john died to bec noir. there is another john who died to typheus trying to do the choice
Jesus all the existential shit in homestuck just makes me sad. Later in the story death isn’t treated as seriously. But just the concept of multiple yous existing and most of them dying because they didn’t fit paradox space’s demand is horrible. Sburb is cruel game that literally throws kids at the blender.
Honestly it haunts me how John's real body stays on Quest bed. Like fuck, it rots and such when your dreamself gets tacky pajamas and some cool bull shit powers. All kids that started the session died. Their god tier dreamselves continue to live. IT HAUNTS ME WITH EVERY SECOND HSHSJDJSJSHAJJSKAJSKSMSJKA*SOBS VERY LOUDLY* Also not to mention that last seconds of the Savior of the Waking world feel as if:" the whole story ended, there's no more thing.It's just the endless story that doesn't move. Newly god tiered John.Time to let go." Pain. And it's always has to do something with our fellow EGBERT.
the one thing that would have made Homestuck's first few acts better would have been to have every god tier be as cool and heroic as this one. I mean, don't get me wrong, the rest are pretty cool, like Rose and Dave through the Green Sun, but this just... plain epic. John ascending both on LOWAS and on Skaia, everyone looking up at Skaia as it shines brighter than ever in the color of Breath, it's just... something else, man. Something that barely gets topped by any other flash in Homestuck.
I love how John's is the only one where we see that the kids, on their own planets, can see the effects of John's rise up. Maybe it has to do with him having the Breath aspect and that it can occupy space wherever it's at if that's what the aspect "wants" I guess.
Poor WV... I mean, a person who he's only known through a screen and only been able to communicate with through commands on a keyboard is killed... "Rise up." is such a poignant phrase. WV means so much more to me now than when I had to watch him make can town.
Ech0Chamber Actually i need to rewatch let’s read Homestuck so i can finish it up because I haven’t made it to [S] Game Over witch is the ending flash but i recommend watching that over reading it though you may like reading so you can do the point and click segments yourself yep Homestuck is a point and click not just a webcomic, but here’s th-cam.com/play/PLHO1rc05qiGtAidSBy_8jsEOlHXR6x4cd.html let’s ready Homestuck if you would prefer it.
Man, I feel for WV. He doesn't deserve this weird plot shit. He's pretty much the nicest guy in homestuck, one of my favorite characters, and that's all there is to say on the matter
I hear you there was just something surreal about this; being the first (on screen) main character death in the comic. but at the same time it was kinda magical in its own way.
Its called Savior of the Waking World, which like shazbot said, is an alternate version of Doctor. And its one of my favorite songs in all of Homestuck
Who said wind control can't be badass obviously didn't read Homestuck. Also, who wants to see a real animated fight with God tier John? (The one in EO5 doesn't count, he was just destroying weaklings)
I did not cry over a webcomic. I did not cry over a webcomic. I did NOT cry over a webcomic. I DID NOT cry over a webcomic. I DID NOT CRY OVER A WEBCOMIC. ... OK. I cried over a webcomic. ;_;
there are two ways to god tier: the quest bed on your planet or the sacrifical slab in the center of either derse or prospit, whichever planet you dream on, which is what the alphas did. if you go god tier on your planet your dream self takes over, you dont need a dream self to go god tier inside of your moon, though. john and jade both died on their planets, and though jades dream self had died, it was prototyped and so she took over the sprite, and she also inherited the prototyped bec powers.
They thought he had gone. The fireflies floated down, blinking their lights in foreign Morse Code. They fluttered about, pale beams flickering as they settled on his lifeless body. His scarlet ichor pooled around him as four dazzling flashes of light took to the bedposts. A strange icon, as if to capture the wind in one image, descended, and in a burst of brilliant light, set itself into his corpse. Three friends watched on, speechless. And John was gone; and in his place... The Heir of Breath.
@UpsidePickle Savior of the Waking World is the song playing in this video. Planet Healer plays during the interactive flash a few pages before [S] JOHN. RISE UP.
I believe Breath may also represent the concepts of direction or communication (though the second is harder to prove). Tavros was never able to speak very well, but that was because he was a Page. His powers (and rhetoric) were very weak, as a Page is weak at first. He was also mostly aimless. John, however, grew into the role of a leader, deciding the path to take. He was also mostly aimless at first and had trouble keeping his attention on one thing at a time, but got better.
Is it okay if this makes me cry? I don't know how to describe it, it just makes me feel so peaceful and brings back so many good memories of when I first got into homestuck...
actually. she was being helpful. she knew that john was going to have to die to ascend. and she gave him the option of her putting him to sleep. thus he wouldnt feel the pain of death. and that way. he would god-tier and wouldnt jump out of the way. or die somewhere else besides the quest bed
so... i am some pages after "[S] Jade: Enter." and i am wondering: how much pages it takes to have me reading (i don't think that i can call this reading, more like watching.) this part?
@Akimare34 He has a score to settle with Jack Noir. He killed the monarch he was rebelling against, he killed the entire revolution exept for him, and initiated The Reckoning.
EB: i am the wind waker. it's me. AG: I know you are, John. AG: Now empty out your sylladex and let's see what sort of killer gear we can make for you. 8ut do it fast!
Actually, she knew that he would be godtiered. She just wanted to be responsible for it. Much in the same way that she wanted to be responsible for Jack Noir's empowerment into Bec Noir. She didn't do it to help anyone. She wanted credit.
he doesn't say it as much as you would think. for whatever reason, it just stuck to people as being almost a catchphrase for karkat even though it isn't
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I just realized something, the title of this page isn't "John: Rise Up" the way most pages are titled, but "JOHN. RISE UP" the way WV typed when he was commanding John. That's because the title isn't about John rising to God Tier, but WV yelling at John to get up, because as far as he knows, John just died and WV desperately wants him to come back.
You also see him having typed it
that is so sad but cool what the heck oml
When i realized it was "JOHN. RISE UP", instead of "John: Rise Up", I actually started crying. Poor WV... D'X
I love how cool the paradoxes in this book, web comic, novel whatever you want to call it. I just find it so cool that the WV that was talking to John before he died had already lived the events that John was about to go through its really thought out imo.
Demi Fiend that's an understatement
This scene is very special to me. It is... the very first time anyone in homestuck really and truley DIED. Sure, many other deaths would follow, and yet... this is the start of it all, this is the very first character to go. And, in a way... he is gone forever. The real him, although still living up 'in the clouds', real him is forever dead on that rock, and its sad to think about. But, that and other moments like this are what make homestuck worth reading, in the end
I never saw it like that. Whenever godtier occurred, it always seemed like the character's dual consciousness (Waking and Dreaming) would collapse into something akin to a "true" self, awakened to powers they were predestined to have and indeed always had to begin with.
i mean theres also that one john that terezi killed by creating a doomed timeline
Darugo Sueño Yeah i find it like that you have to be killed on your quest bed and once you do your God Tier transformation will begin, and you will be born a new or resurrected, so all Bec Noir, did by stabbing John was lead him to gaining his permanent God Tier form so jokes on him.
What about Dream Jade ?
OronkonPhoenix of course her, but the first time any character in the main world had died, one of the main 4 kids but in the flesh, died, you know what I mean?
Yes, Heir of grief may be very beautiful. But this song will forever be my favorite Homestuck song. Actually, no, it's in a tie with heir of grief. Both are so beautiful.
Have you heard Doctor?
To be honest, Bec Noir looks more menacing with Bro's shades.
He looks like he should be the mascot of some cereal brand
Rocky BigTeddy Becfast
Snausages they’re advertising could be SNAUSAGES can save you if this happens *bec stabs someone
feline Well it’s like he’s rubbing it in.
João Filho Too bad he crushed them and along with his other accessories. :(
It's been a while since ACT 7 went out, and Homestuck 'ended', and now I see this again.
Years in the past, (but not many,) I read Homestuck on a whim; on a recommendation of a friend. This was the flash that sold the webcomic for me.
When I got here, I knew that it was worth it, and that it would be good.. That was a long, long, time ago.
Cheers to Homestuck, the adventure and the experience, and all the years and the friends we've made along the while! And now you say that it's ending, that it's dead?
HOMESTUCK FANDOM. RISE UP.
KNIGHT OF LIGHT REPORTING FOR DUTY!
Lawrence P. HEIR OF HOPE REPORTING FOR DUTY
Lawrence P. KNIGHT OF SPACE, CHECKING IN
1000s OF doomed selves checking in
GOLD LEADER CHECKING IN-
OOPS SORRY
ROGUE OF RAGE CHECKING IN
I meant, in normal cases the "Ascension Command" looks like this:
"John: Ascend." Indicating that it is the player/AH telling the characters what to do.
In this case the command text is " JOHN. RISE UP",similar to when WV was giving John orders. WV tells John to get up because he thinks/is afraid John is dead. And that made me sad. :(
Maybe I should have made that more clear... :P
I basically meant the same thing as '989FOX989' who has the top comment... :P
The first time Bec Noir ever made you like him ever was when he saved Jade's life then went straight back to making you hate him, by killing all the exiles except WV and PM.
Denizen of Hell WV did get killed. I think they brought him back though.
nah I loved jack already in the intermission.
THEN he got an asshole by killing the black Queen and wearing her ring.
RIP George, thank you for making such beautiful music and inspiring other artists. This scene wouldn't have been the same without this remix.
I swear, my reaction was pretty interesting when I found out that quest beds weren’t beds that you sleep in that give you powers, but just stone slabs that you die on.
Also can I get an F for john’s old outfit
also, that outfit is alchemized from his old shit and vriska's outfit. Considering she technically let him to die here, it was probably a weird wish of hers for him to ascend in her fit
This was the first and only flash to invoke tears from me.
It's just so beautiful
Agreed
not tears but just a generous feeling of depression, especially after I realized that the real John was the one that died
this was a DEATH. The John we saw and loved in the first page of this comic is dead. he is of no more. this flash invoked years from me seeing our main character die. thank you for good times hussie.
tears*
our main john died in act 4 against typheus
No. He died to bec noir on the quest bed
Red Lemonade first john died to typheus, and then alpha john took over. second john died to bec noir. there is another john who died to typheus trying to do the choice
Oh
still the chills. every time.
Jesus all the existential shit in homestuck just makes me sad. Later in the story death isn’t treated as seriously. But just the concept of multiple yous existing and most of them dying because they didn’t fit paradox space’s demand is horrible. Sburb is cruel game that literally throws kids at the blender.
Honestly it haunts me how John's real body stays on Quest bed. Like fuck, it rots and such when your dreamself gets tacky pajamas and some cool bull shit powers. All kids that started the session died. Their god tier dreamselves continue to live. IT HAUNTS ME WITH EVERY SECOND HSHSJDJSJSHAJJSKAJSKSMSJKA*SOBS VERY LOUDLY*
Also not to mention that last seconds of the Savior of the Waking world feel as if:" the whole story ended, there's no more thing.It's just the endless story that doesn't move. Newly god tiered John.Time to let go."
Pain. And it's always has to do something with our fellow EGBERT.
the one thing that would have made Homestuck's first few acts better would have been to have every god tier be as cool and heroic as this one. I mean, don't get me wrong, the rest are pretty cool, like Rose and Dave through the Green Sun, but this just... plain epic. John ascending both on LOWAS and on Skaia, everyone looking up at Skaia as it shines brighter than ever in the color of Breath, it's just... something else, man. Something that barely gets topped by any other flash in Homestuck.
can i become a god tier now?
ParPar Ahum on a quest bed.
Dick Rider Well yeah.
WV wasn't actually yelling at him. Caps lock was on.
I love how John's is the only one where we see that the kids, on their own planets, can see the effects of John's rise up. Maybe it has to do with him having the Breath aspect and that it can occupy space wherever it's at if that's what the aspect "wants" I guess.
I can't believe homestuck has finally ended after all these years. it seems like only yesterday that this scene came to be
Baby Bat Late reply... I know. But one month or so. Maybe more maybe less. But in that area
Poor WV... I mean, a person who he's only known through a screen and only been able to communicate with through commands on a keyboard is killed...
"Rise up." is such a poignant phrase. WV means so much more to me now than when I had to watch him make can town.
We live in a society...
GAMERS RISE UP!
I know nothing about Homestuck, but I plan on changing that.
Ech0Chamber Actually i need to rewatch let’s read Homestuck so i can finish it up because I haven’t made it to [S] Game Over witch is the ending flash but i recommend watching that over reading it though you may like reading so you can do the point and click segments yourself yep Homestuck is a point and click not just a webcomic, but here’s th-cam.com/play/PLHO1rc05qiGtAidSBy_8jsEOlHXR6x4cd.html let’s ready Homestuck if you would prefer it.
Update?
@@krisnight4814 What the hell is Homestuck
@@Ech0Chamber 4 kids play a game and everything goes to shit
@@PlumbG_uhh Jumanji, but on Adobe Flash
Caps lock was on. He couldn't make it lowercase if he tried.
Go check.
This right here.
This is what made me love Homestuck.
It's called "Savior of the Waking World". It's a remix of "Doctor", which appeared in the walkaround flash after John went through his first gate.
I've experienced realizations like this a few times while reading the comic. It is an interesting feeling.
this was the first time i ever cried tears of joy while reading homestuck, i think.
oh, man. those memories.
THE FUCKING CHILLS.
Still gives me chills just to hear it. It's been what, 3 years since I first saw this?
This is THE most epic moment in all of Homestuck for me. MY MIND WAS CONSTANTLY BEING BLOWN BY THE EPICNESS OF IT ALL
I get goosebumps every time i see this, i cant help but to just get really proud of John as a character, and how far he's come.
John rises but... at what cost? John! We need you! *i've been rereading lol*
THE FEELS
Man, I feel for WV. He doesn't deserve this weird plot shit. He's pretty much the nicest guy in homestuck, one of my favorite characters, and that's all there is to say on the matter
I hear you there was just something surreal about this; being the first (on screen) main character death in the comic. but at the same time it was kinda magical in its own way.
Its called Savior of the Waking World, which like shazbot said, is an alternate version of Doctor. And its one of my favorite songs in all of Homestuck
Who said wind control can't be badass obviously didn't read Homestuck. Also, who wants to see a real animated fight with God tier John? (The one in EO5 doesn't count, he was just destroying weaklings)
I really loved the part where his friends watched him transform
All I hear in my head when Jack looks at the screen is-
"...deal with it."
I did not cry over a webcomic. I did not cry over a webcomic. I did NOT cry over a webcomic. I DID NOT cry over a webcomic. I DID NOT CRY OVER A WEBCOMIC.
... OK.
I cried over a webcomic. ;_;
Oh, OW. You just killed my feels. Holy crap. T.T
That's a really, REALLY good observation. Thanks for sharing it with the rest of us. :')
I love the music for these scenes. This tune in particular, both here and in Cascade. It just fits so well.
I just saw this on MSPA for the first time. I jaw literally dropped and my eyes widened because I was just in awe... I... just... wow... O.o
[S]: HOMESTUCKS. RISE UP
I love the sound of the wind during the year count at the end.
there are two ways to god tier: the quest bed on your planet or the sacrifical slab in the center of either derse or prospit, whichever planet you dream on, which is what the alphas did. if you go god tier on your planet your dream self takes over, you dont need a dream self to go god tier inside of your moon, though. john and jade both died on their planets, and though jades dream self had died, it was prototyped and so she took over the sprite, and she also inherited the prototyped bec powers.
Those tingles you get when looking or listening to something epic? I get those evey time watching this.
YOU THERE, BOY.
RISE UP.
I just realized that this is could be the first time the other kids ever see John in person.
They thought he had gone.
The fireflies floated down, blinking their lights in foreign Morse Code. They fluttered about, pale beams flickering as they settled on his lifeless body.
His scarlet ichor pooled around him as four dazzling flashes of light took to the bedposts. A strange icon, as if to capture the wind in one image, descended, and in a burst of brilliant light, set itself into his corpse.
Three friends watched on, speechless.
And John was gone; and in his place...
The Heir of Breath.
I still remeber this one... It was so intense...
@UpsidePickle Savior of the Waking World is the song playing in this video. Planet Healer plays during the interactive flash a few pages before [S] JOHN. RISE UP.
To keep with the doctor puns from the other tracks...
GET UP JOHN, I'M DYING, I NEED YOU, COME BACK FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
My favourite bit is how it just goes to a harp playing a single line melody when John appears all hooded.
[A6A6I1] ====>
John Egbert has gone missing.
Why do nearly all of these get me teary eyed, is it the music or something, specially Jades Enter, that one gets me so sad eyed face.
The music always gives me chills.
> guy makes thread on /v telling us that he has cancer, saying his farewell.
>this plays.
I believe Breath may also represent the concepts of direction or communication (though the second is harder to prove).
Tavros was never able to speak very well, but that was because he was a Page. His powers (and rhetoric) were very weak, as a Page is weak at first. He was also mostly aimless.
John, however, grew into the role of a leader, deciding the path to take. He was also mostly aimless at first and had trouble keeping his attention on one thing at a time, but got better.
This song still makes me truly upset
and happy at the same time
idk how thats even possible
This is so magical...
I like how dave looks up at the sky like "well, 'bout time you got tiered."
John is so cute after this.
oh man time sure flies.
Is it okay if this makes me cry? I don't know how to describe it, it just makes me feel so peaceful and brings back so many good memories of when I first got into homestuck...
too epic for words. epicness just explodes!
i love the soundtrack and the flash there just superb, i mean jeagus, this is total . . . amazement.!
actually. she was being helpful. she knew that john was going to have to die to ascend. and she gave him the option of her putting him to sleep. thus he wouldnt feel the pain of death. and that way. he would god-tier and wouldnt jump out of the way. or die somewhere else besides the quest bed
Jegus, i f*cking love this scene. :::')
Hah, you have a crush on John.
All of my tears.
I see homestuck stuff everywhere! and yes this flash page was pretty awesome.
This is by far my favorite moment in Homestuck. ;A; I get chills everytime.
wow thanks for that now im legit crying
This has to be my favorite [s]!! Might I add the music is beautiful
oh man this flash was so epic.
so... i am some pages after "[S] Jade: Enter." and i am wondering: how much pages it takes to have me reading (i don't think that i can call this reading, more like watching.) this part?
vince wait. No. More. Like two to three months
About 200 pages
i want to cry every time i hear this
THANK YOU~ I've been looking for the name :'DDD
@Akimare34 He has a score to settle with Jack Noir. He killed the monarch he was rebelling against, he killed the entire revolution exept for him, and initiated The Reckoning.
*Takes me two days to reach up to this moment*
*Still be amazed*
EB: i am the wind waker. it's me.
AG: I know you are, John.
AG: Now empty out your sylladex and let's see what sort of killer gear we can make for you. 8ut do it fast!
oh man
i was so emotional during this
Me too, me too. *cries*
John! No! -cries-
Everytime I watch this, I choke up and start crying. ;n;
ILY, John!!
probably my favorite flash in all of hs
When I die, I wish for something at least one fourth this badass to happen.
Woah!
Awesome!
Thanks for uploading!
if this happened ro me I would be gagging
I-I'm not c-crying..there's just something in both of m-my eyes..
Okami + Homestuck?
Ohmygosh EPICNESS.
Actually, she knew that he would be godtiered. She just wanted to be responsible for it.
Much in the same way that she wanted to be responsible for Jack Noir's empowerment into Bec Noir.
She didn't do it to help anyone. She wanted credit.
Savior of the waking world
he doesn't say it as much as you would think. for whatever reason, it just stuck to people as being almost a catchphrase for karkat even though it isn't
I legit cried.
Excellent deduction, Sherlock!
AGHJH THIS IS AMAZING
This was one of the [S] panels I reacted to the most. It was awesome because i rarely react to this shit.
Aghhh, John, why'd you make me cry? ;A;
Nannasprite and your dad would be so proud...... ;w;