Page 200 of Ligmastuck. Read: mspfa.com/?s=42495 "Stormspirit" & "Heir Conditioning" Available on Bandcamp in Homestuck - Strife!: tenseimusic.bandcamp.com/albu... By Joren "Tensei" de Bruin
This is just gonna be like the "only 10% the viewers are subscribed" thing youtubers say, but this animation has a LOT more likes and views than the comic itself. If you liked this video, I'd really appreciate if you gave a like on Ligmastuck on MSPFA, even if you don't really use the site: mspfa.com/?s=42495 That might help it reach new readers on the site! I like it when people read my funny comics, so I'd love it if you took a moment to click that little heart down in the adventure info.
I literally just read the entire comic after watching this, and all I can say is that you are an absolute genius. I mean, in what other comic does (SPOILERS) Jude Harley in a suit shoot Karkat wearing an eye patch who was working for a resistance against a mafia in front of baby Vriska, paradox John, secret agent Jane, and Yiffany who can talk???
ya know getting this randomly recommended and out of context is.... probably the intended viewing experience. absolutely amazing! im horribly confused but supportive all the same!
Yeah, totally foresaw TH-cam to do it's magic, totally...... The context link is in the description, but if you're content with just the pretty pictures, I'm super glad it's enjoyable that way too!
This isn't just a shitpost with a plot, it's a tribute to what made, and still makes Homestuck great 4/13/2022 A webcomic stands in the middle of its fandom. Though it was thirteen years ago that it was given life, and with it, a name, it is only that day that its legacy shall last eternal Here's to another 13 years and beyond
this getting randomly recommended on youtube is how I found ligmastuck. This was JUST after my friendgroup and I had made a john-only session on the genesis project, with many iterations of john.
Absolutely incredible! (The ONLY thing that could have made this any better would have been including some of the more obscure Canon Johns, like Homosuck's "MALE" or Trickster Link John.)
as probably the one person here who's actually read ligmastuck before watching this, this is unironically one of the best fanventures i've EVER read. the absurdity and the messages about the nature of the self are fucking fantastic, and this flash was unironically fucking breathtaking. tysm for making this
At first I thought this was a reanimation of the "JOHN. RISE UP." flash, but it appears this has something to do with The Canonization of Every John Egbert. I am thoroughly intrigued. brb gonna read your fancomic.
This series is still awesome! I love how it’s a way you think about homestuck but with different emotional focuses like the series itself did. This is what made homestuck kickass, the fact it’s all insanely unexpected but also a coherent story, but when taken out of context you have no idea what’s going on. KEEP GOING!!!!
fuck this changed my life. Both this video and the comic's original start. Literally helped me realize that maybe that the rate we improve is meaningless and that maybe everything we hold as an idea of who we are is also essentially meaningless. Essentially I view the amount of information in the universe as an inequality where 0 = equation. I think our view of time increasing is simply a concept as everything else in life, and that the continuity of self-improvement is to help add more to the world than what you take out of it. By assuming an idea we create an information imbalance. For example, the concept of time is that time is increasing, which means time is equal to x. However, that would mean the amount of information in the universe is increasing over time. This means that this information is exhausted in various forms to create a balance. In a way understanding that you are zero information, that the concept of anything existing is Null, and then that the concept of things can eventually be self-evident as they are already there means that their existence is a constant of information. essentially, when we get to the unconscious I want a scene where John has to bring the better version of himself and teach him by conveying to him absolutely nothing. Essentially, he lets his unconscious become himself and they walk together, eventually becoming one. Then every lesson learned and then forgotten along the way, the true balance, could be taught to his absolute fundamental self. John finally has simply become a stronger person, his control of his self is infinite, because he has become more united with his personal self. Then he just becomes the best person he could be at any moment instinctually. He does this whole process again but faster and faster until he's infinitely perfect in his own reality. As that would mean that he would have the knowledge of the perfect way to exist, his next step would be teaching it to Dave by healing him, and then DAVE STARS IN LIGMASTUCK 2 THE BABY IS YOU EDITION SOMEHOW
I'm glad to say I got here via Ligmastuck reading it for the first time and holy shit you're making a good comic. Keep up the fucking excellent work, please, and thank you for sharing it with us.
The model i associate with gmod and the music that reminds me of touhou really adds something special to this video but honestly this was not what i expected it is such an amazing animation when mspfa stops having a stroke ill give ligmastuck a read
One of my favorite things about this is the fact that there’s pretty much a 3/1 John/June ratio, showing that even though John is canon, and will always be more recognized, the fandom will always have a special place in their hearts for June. I know I do.
im going to fucking cry. i remember i started reading ligmastuck like 6 months ago (and i remember being absolutely blown away by the amount of effort put into it even in the first few pages. my expectations were extremely low just from the title but god was i wrong) and i didnt get very far into it at all but upon seeing this good god i need to read it
randomly got this recommended by youtube so i caught up before watching this, actually more entertaining than homestuck^2 and not even in an ironic way lol
this is unironically so fucking gorgeous and well done holy fuck, like, from the minor details to the major ones. i love first of all the gorgeously crunch pixels at 1080p, like, yes. yes. i love it. and the 3d render also being done in that resolution is great. and then second of all the 3D!!!!!!!! its amazing when the thumbnail gif of john doing fortnite dance was foreshadowing the whole time, like. brilliant. and the DESIGNS of the alt johns were so good - did you come up with all of them, or were they community sourced? either way great picks. this is what meeting your ultself should always look like. this is a bar for mspfa - hell, MSPA itself - being raised. this is the exact kind of escalation out of the medium that hs at its best was always able to achieve, and it's being nailed here too. great fuckin shit :D
Thanks so much! I came up with every Egbert here, more or less. I mean for example the concept of June is not original of course and John in Con Air clothing is in HS itself, but the specific designs are mine (though of course I've been influenced by designs I've seen before). Also the icon being foreshadowing is a point I haven't seen noticed before! This animation was in the plans from the very beginning, and experimenting with 3D was one of the like 3 things that inspired Ligmastuck to begin with.
@@Ymilliaine i long for the day when we get a june egbert who kins, not nic cage from con air, but sally can't-dance, the trans woman, from con air that's when the fandom will finally reach its full potential also glad to point at the thing and notice the thing you meant to be noticed :D
I saw the trailer earlier and had to start reading. It immediately made me double over laughing and now it's blossomed into some of the most beautiful shit I have literally ever seen. I hope to jod you are getting all the money in the world for this. I sincerely hope this becomes a much much more recognized piece of art.
This is hands down, one of the best "Homestuck" fan animations I have ever seen so far. And because of that, you've just earned yourself a new subscriber.
i was expecting this to be just another cool and new webcomic, where silly art happens and some silly humor, but my god, it got to the point of homestuck level lore, and the art like insane good for no reason, like HOW
sometimes i just come back to rewatch because holy fuck do i love ligmastuck. like i said on my tumblr, it is a love letter to the fandom, including the parts that make us so terrible, so annoying, so us. gog bless you ligmastuck o7
im sorry why is this actually really nicely animated? was it done in 3D???? some of the egberts and the environment look as if they were rendered in a 3D engine, especially the panning shots. i might read ligmastuck after this honestly.
i present to you my liveblog watching this flash eh? [8:49 PM] i thought this was a shitpost but evidently not narnkar - Today at 9:08 PM ok this is genuinely really well animated [9:08 PM] like its better than a hs flash in some parts (edited) [9:09 PM] WHY IS THIS TOUHOU MUSIC [9:09 PM] WHY IS THIS FROM AN ADVENTURE CALLED "LIGMASTUCK" [9:09 PM] then again [9:09 PM] name a more iconic duo than high effort and inane shitposts in the homestuck fandom [9:10 PM] i have no fucking context for ay of this
As a fan of John Egbert, this made me really happy to see a lot of John Egberts. The moment I saw this I was very happy, it was like "IT'S MY BOOOOOIIII(s)!!!" 10/10 John Egbert is my Sohn Egbert.
Short answer: Yeah, it's like that, pretty much. Not intended to be, but a viewer who isn't interested in Ligmastuck can think of it that way. Long answer: It's a little bit different conceptually. He is "descendascending" into something that could be called "ultimate tiers", which is a thing in Ligmastuck, but it hasn't been clearly stated what that means exactly (yet? spoilers?). What's been revealed so far I could sum it up as like, if Ultimate Self is every existing self combined, the so-called Ultimate Tiers also include selves that don't exist, but are conceivable (And maybe not exactly enough like the original so that they'd contribute to a Ultimate Self?) Anyway I leave it at that since I don't wanna even accidentally spoil anything for readers, but Ligmastuck so far elaborates a little more on how it works.
@@Ymilliaine so it’s like how after you godteir and gain easy access to your classpect powers you can continue ascending and gain more mastery not only over your abilities but also the way you interact with narrative elements like talking and holding things. But now your going though the tiers of ultimate self where you’ve gained access to other versions of yourself you can go even further by incorporating and wielding the power of a broadening horizon of what could be considered another version of your self, incorporating selfs of lower substantially and greater variance. Selfs that couldn’t exist in any possible branch of your starting conditions but do/could exist under completely different starting conditions but are still nominally “you”. Not just a unification of all alternate selfs but also notional selfs?
@@NErDy-pr1jf That's a good way of saying it. Something Ligmastuck has also questioned (pretty subtly) is what counts as a "starting condition" meta-wise, like for example would the first page of Homestuck count as the same starting condition for a first time reader, someone who has read it all before, and someone who's very familiar with fan interpretations. And going beyond that, though I don't think it has been specifically hinted at yet, would a fundamentally different starting condition still be thought as a continuation of that first page, as what followed that inspired the idea of that condition.
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This is just gonna be like the "only 10% the viewers are subscribed" thing youtubers say, but this animation has a LOT more likes and views than the comic itself. If you liked this video, I'd really appreciate if you gave a like on Ligmastuck on MSPFA, even if you don't really use the site: mspfa.com/?s=42495
That might help it reach new readers on the site! I like it when people read my funny comics, so I'd love it if you took a moment to click that little heart down in the adventure info.
welp, ive been on a homestuck nostalgia trip recently anyways. This animation was comedy GOLD!!!! This is the perfect excuse toi check your comic out!
I literally just read the entire comic after watching this, and all I can say is that you are an absolute genius.
I mean, in what other comic does (SPOILERS) Jude Harley in a suit shoot Karkat wearing an eye patch who was working for a resistance against a mafia in front of baby Vriska, paradox John, secret agent Jane, and Yiffany who can talk???
Yep, sold. Reading now
ya know getting this randomly recommended and out of context is.... probably the intended viewing experience. absolutely amazing! im horribly confused but supportive all the same!
Yeah, totally foresaw TH-cam to do it's magic, totally...... The context link is in the description, but if you're content with just the pretty pictures, I'm super glad it's enjoyable that way too!
i got here the same way and im considering reading ligmastuck now
@@ughthatguy7795Same here, putting it in my Read Later list LMFAO
@@JadeJuno reading it right now. just as confusing as this animation tbh
Eat your heart out Dirk, this is the true power of the Ultimate Self
Ligmastuck ends with john beating up dirk, tposing over his corpse, then flying off to save dave
still can't believe this is an actual animation for an actual mspfa and not just some really elaborate shitpost.
This isn't just a shitpost with a plot, it's a tribute to what made, and still makes Homestuck great
4/13/2022
A webcomic stands in the middle of its fandom. Though it was thirteen years ago that it was given life, and with it, a name, it is only that day that its legacy shall last eternal
Here's to another 13 years and beyond
FOURTHIRTEEN
The unexpected scroll through “egbert” leading to me spotting John goes to McDonalds (my friends MSPFA) was a junpscare
Definitely not what you would expect from something called Ligmastuck but it's what you should expect.
I have no clue what Ligmastuck is, but this is incredible.
10/10, would almost accidentally die from choking on water again.
it's 4/13 not 10/10 but ok
@@Criz454 i say its 11/11 but ok
this getting randomly recommended on youtube is how I found ligmastuck. This was JUST after my friendgroup and I had made a john-only session on the genesis project, with many iterations of john.
this is actually fucking beautiful, god i just love. the egbert. what a wonderful specimen we've been blessed with
This is fantastic! It coming up in my recommended got me reading Ligmastuck now, and It's what I always wanted from meta-fanon stories.
Absolutely incredible!
(The ONLY thing that could have made this any better would have been including some of the more obscure Canon Johns, like Homosuck's "MALE" or Trickster Link John.)
as probably the one person here who's actually read ligmastuck before watching this, this is unironically one of the best fanventures i've EVER read. the absurdity and the messages about the nature of the self are fucking fantastic, and this flash was unironically fucking breathtaking. tysm for making this
At first I thought this was a reanimation of the "JOHN. RISE UP." flash, but it appears this has something to do with The Canonization of Every John Egbert. I am thoroughly intrigued. brb gonna read your fancomic.
This series is still awesome! I love how it’s a way you think about homestuck but with different emotional focuses like the series itself did. This is what made homestuck kickass, the fact it’s all insanely unexpected but also a coherent story, but when taken out of context you have no idea what’s going on.
KEEP GOING!!!!
Best tribute I've seen this 4/13! Can't wait to see more :)
1:16 cirno moment
[S] John: Move horizontally
By the way I got this recommend randomly but incredible video.
this looked like a more epic version of the "ultimate self" thing from hs^2 and the epilogues, also this rendering work is amazing. Great job!
Holy shit this is amazing, all the different Johns and whatever other confusing stuff are just so cool I need to read ligmastuck asap
The is the only piece of Homestuck media that matters. I don’t know the context but I now have no choice but to get it.
oh the animation is so good though
this is still like my favourite bit of homestuck fan content that's come out in ages. ligmastuck is awesome
fuck this changed my life. Both this video and the comic's original start. Literally helped me realize that maybe that the rate we improve is meaningless and that maybe everything we hold as an idea of who we are is also essentially meaningless. Essentially I view the amount of information in the universe as an inequality where 0 = equation. I think our view of time increasing is simply a concept as everything else in life, and that the continuity of self-improvement is to help add more to the world than what you take out of it. By assuming an idea we create an information imbalance. For example, the concept of time is that time is increasing, which means time is equal to x. However, that would mean the amount of information in the universe is increasing over time. This means that this information is exhausted in various forms to create a balance. In a way understanding that you are zero information, that the concept of anything existing is Null, and then that the concept of things can eventually be self-evident as they are already there means that their existence is a constant of information.
essentially, when we get to the unconscious I want a scene where John has to bring the better version of himself and teach him by conveying to him absolutely nothing. Essentially, he lets his unconscious become himself and they walk together, eventually becoming one. Then every lesson learned and then forgotten along the way, the true balance, could be taught to his absolute fundamental self. John finally has simply become a stronger person, his control of his self is infinite, because he has become more united with his personal self. Then he just becomes the best person he could be at any moment instinctually. He does this whole process again but faster and faster until he's infinitely perfect in his own reality. As that would mean that he would have the knowledge of the perfect way to exist, his next step would be teaching it to Dave by healing him, and then DAVE STARS IN LIGMASTUCK 2 THE BABY IS YOU EDITION SOMEHOW
i occasionally come back to watch this and it always makes me tear up
Was this made in blender? It looks fantastic !
Partially, yeah!
oh my god what was just that
I don't know how to feel-
the animation is so great and I don't even know what the context is
yeah tbh I didn't know what was going on, I was like "is this homestuck?" and it was. fucking loved it though! great animation, my friend c:
giving heir conditioning the S page it deserves
Incomprehensible, liked
I'm glad to say I got here via Ligmastuck reading it for the first time and holy shit you're making a good comic. Keep up the fucking excellent work, please, and thank you for sharing it with us.
I have no context for this but it's very entertaining and very well made, 10/10 tribute rating
Gonna tell my children this was [s] collide
Okay i'm definitely saving this for comic inspiration, this animation is amazing Ymi!!!
I can't believe you made several among us jokes, a ligma joke, good animations and a good story while also refrencing the baby is you.
huh. i actually have read some of ligmastuck, but i just got recommended this randomly, and i have no idea what's going on.
Just got in my recommended - I don't know what or why, but this is great!
I have 0 context but that was neat. Maybe one day I'll finish HS and go looking for Alternate-Stuck content.
Seeing the thumbnail I expected a shitpost but I got blown away!! Wow
this was in my recommendations and whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
Who knew John tposing could be so powerful
Every time I see anything about this fan comic it confuses me horribly but makes me want to read it even more
The model i associate with gmod and the music that reminds me of touhou really adds something special to this video
but honestly this was not what i expected it is such an amazing animation
when mspfa stops having a stroke ill give ligmastuck a read
This an absolutely preposterous amount of effort for what's labelled a shitpost
i don't remember subscribing to you. happy 4/13
One of my favorite things about this is the fact that there’s pretty much a 3/1 John/June ratio, showing that even though John is canon, and will always be more recognized, the fandom will always have a special place in their hearts for June. I know I do.
im going to fucking cry. i remember i started reading ligmastuck like 6 months ago (and i remember being absolutely blown away by the amount of effort put into it even in the first few pages. my expectations were extremely low just from the title but god was i wrong) and i didnt get very far into it at all but upon seeing this good god i need to read it
dirk strider
wait this is a homestuck video
randomly got this recommended by youtube so i caught up before watching this, actually more entertaining than homestuck^2 and not even in an ironic way lol
holy. shit.
im addicted to this video someone please help me
I love this so much. this is meta done well. found this, read the comic so far, and it's great. keep up the amazing work!!
This was the best 4 and a half minutes I've ever witnessed
this is unironically so fucking gorgeous and well done holy fuck, like, from the minor details to the major ones.
i love first of all the gorgeously crunch pixels at 1080p, like, yes. yes. i love it. and the 3d render also being done in that resolution is great.
and then second of all the 3D!!!!!!!! its amazing when the thumbnail gif of john doing fortnite dance was foreshadowing the whole time, like. brilliant. and the DESIGNS of the alt johns were so good - did you come up with all of them, or were they community sourced? either way great picks.
this is what meeting your ultself should always look like. this is a bar for mspfa - hell, MSPA itself - being raised. this is the exact kind of escalation out of the medium that hs at its best was always able to achieve, and it's being nailed here too.
great fuckin shit :D
Thanks so much! I came up with every Egbert here, more or less. I mean for example the concept of June is not original of course and John in Con Air clothing is in HS itself, but the specific designs are mine (though of course I've been influenced by designs I've seen before).
Also the icon being foreshadowing is a point I haven't seen noticed before! This animation was in the plans from the very beginning, and experimenting with 3D was one of the like 3 things that inspired Ligmastuck to begin with.
@@Ymilliaine i long for the day when we get a june egbert who kins, not nic cage from con air, but sally can't-dance, the trans woman, from con air
that's when the fandom will finally reach its full potential
also glad to point at the thing and notice the thing you meant to be noticed :D
Ooooh etchjetty, I like your fanfics
@@borealiscreep7436 WHICH ONES >:D
@@EtchJetty *points to nepetaquest* I love that one
this felt like a fever trip
I saw the trailer earlier and had to start reading. It immediately made me double over laughing and now it's blossomed into some of the most beautiful shit I have literally ever seen. I hope to jod you are getting all the money in the world for this. I sincerely hope this becomes a much much more recognized piece of art.
but why is this so god damn hype
heh.. this ones going in my cool compilation
This is hands down, one of the best "Homestuck" fan animations I have ever seen so far. And because of that, you've just earned yourself a new subscriber.
I haven't been into homestuck for 5 years but damn, this looks wild
THIS IS SO RANDOM YET AMAZING AT THE SAME TIME 😭😭 you've captured fandom at its finest >:]
both before and after having the context for this I fucking lost it at Mario John
a masterpiece
just casually read the first 200 pages of ligmastuck and am now even more confused than when I first found this with no context
That is really good, good luck on ye next ventures!
im johning out!
this is freaking amazing oh my gog
amogus egbert
joghn: beyond fanon^4
Beautiful
this is some awesome fanventure woah
John of John
THE FUCKING HUSSNASTY JOHN JUMPSCARE AT 2:22
have no idea what ligmastuck is but holy shit his is so good
im obsessed with this
i was expecting this to be just another cool and new webcomic, where silly art happens and some silly humor, but my god, it got to the point of homestuck level lore, and the art like insane good for no reason, like HOW
Yes
A friend from Discord showed me this, I don't understand this but I am loving this so much!
this feels so 80s rock musical
sometimes i just come back to rewatch because holy fuck do i love ligmastuck. like i said on my tumblr, it is a love letter to the fandom, including the parts that make us so terrible, so annoying, so us. gog bless you ligmastuck o7
THIS ROCKS
Incredible animation
What do you mean there's a whole ass comic of this and it's not just a shitpost?!?!
Ligmastuck is truly an experience. I'm caught up as of making this comment and I gotta say, it doesn't stop keep getting more wild.
delerious hussnasty
This is what hussy wanted
Finally some good content in TH-cam
This is True art
im sorry why is this actually really nicely animated? was it done in 3D???? some of the egberts and the environment look as if they were rendered in a 3D engine, especially the panning shots. i might read ligmastuck after this honestly.
Yeah, those parts were done in 3D using Blender.
Holy shit this is powerful.
johnverse
i present to you my liveblog watching this flash
eh?
[8:49 PM]
i thought this was a shitpost but evidently not
narnkar - Today at 9:08 PM
ok this is genuinely really well animated
[9:08 PM]
like its better than a hs flash in some parts (edited)
[9:09 PM]
WHY IS THIS TOUHOU MUSIC
[9:09 PM]
WHY IS THIS FROM AN ADVENTURE CALLED "LIGMASTUCK"
[9:09 PM]
then again
[9:09 PM]
name a more iconic duo than high effort and inane shitposts in the homestuck fandom
[9:10 PM]
i have no fucking context for ay of this
As a fan of John Egbert, this made me really happy to see a lot of John Egberts. The moment I saw this I was very happy, it was like "IT'S MY BOOOOOIIII(s)!!!"
10/10 John Egbert is my Sohn Egbert.
Alright that was very cool :O
So is this John becoming his ultimate self?
Short answer: Yeah, it's like that, pretty much. Not intended to be, but a viewer who isn't interested in Ligmastuck can think of it that way.
Long answer: It's a little bit different conceptually. He is "descendascending" into something that could be called "ultimate tiers", which is a thing in Ligmastuck, but it hasn't been clearly stated what that means exactly (yet? spoilers?). What's been revealed so far I could sum it up as like, if Ultimate Self is every existing self combined, the so-called Ultimate Tiers also include selves that don't exist, but are conceivable (And maybe not exactly enough like the original so that they'd contribute to a Ultimate Self?)
Anyway I leave it at that since I don't wanna even accidentally spoil anything for readers, but Ligmastuck so far elaborates a little more on how it works.
@@Ymilliaine so it’s like how after you godteir and gain easy access to your classpect powers you can continue ascending and gain more mastery not only over your abilities but also the way you interact with narrative elements like talking and holding things. But now your going though the tiers of ultimate self where you’ve gained access to other versions of yourself you can go even further by incorporating and wielding the power of a broadening horizon of what could be considered another version of your self, incorporating selfs of lower substantially and greater variance. Selfs that couldn’t exist in any possible branch of your starting conditions but do/could exist under completely different starting conditions but are still nominally “you”. Not just a unification of all alternate selfs but also notional selfs?
@@NErDy-pr1jf That's a good way of saying it. Something Ligmastuck has also questioned (pretty subtly) is what counts as a "starting condition" meta-wise, like for example would the first page of Homestuck count as the same starting condition for a first time reader, someone who has read it all before, and someone who's very familiar with fan interpretations. And going beyond that, though I don't think it has been specifically hinted at yet, would a fundamentally different starting condition still be thought as a continuation of that first page, as what followed that inspired the idea of that condition.
end of evangelion
THE AMOGUS JOHN ?? 😭
GODDDDDDDD
egbert ligmaballs
This is the homestuck ever
what did I just watch lol
Into the Egbert-verse