I can see how much you love the Word and the Lord Dr.Brown, your eyes sure light up, I greatly appreciate your work and I am excited to read your commentary on Job
Good evening, I'm from Indonesia, I have a friend named Nur Hapipah. She is a Muslim. I asked for her prayer because she knew nothing about her religion even though she was religious. I am sure the prayers of the righteous will be answered. Thank you
Dear father this brother has asked for a prayer for this Muslim lady father we cannot save ourselves we cannot open our own eyes I pray that you open her eyes and draw her to you protect her watch over her father help her to come to believe ,help to have an experience with the living God and Jesus Christ I pray this in Jesus name amen ,bless her keep her safe watch over her father amen
I use the KVJ, but some Bibles translate Job 1:8 using the words "set thine heart upon" rather than "considered". In Job 34:14, Elihu uses the words "set his heart upon" speaking of the Lord, that is, saying in effect if the Lord set his heart upon man all flesh would perish together. This might help us see the adversarial relationship between Satan and the Lord in Job 1:8-12. They will not be getting along nicely as friends. There is no friendship between them. There is no communion between God who is light and Satan who is darkness. That's the context where we should be listening to the conversation in Job 1:8-12, as well as going heavy on the parable of the Prodigal son, focusing on the father's heart, as our foundation, doing so in faith. Evan as the prodigal son was away, I believe his father had a plan for him that was stronger than the strength of his son's sin in going away, much stronger, in fact, a plan of good and prosperity, and not of evil. Let's also remember John 10:10,11.
I just got you book. And i love it, im only upto chapter 5 but its exactly what id hoped for! When i read job i had no idea what was going on, but this is really helping me understand not just the theology, but the actual stroy. Ive read 5 books in my life (not kidding) and although i find it difficult at first but, im getting in the groove of it and i will definitely read it again when im done.
Dr. Brown, i think Job had problems in his later life as well. I am sure it was not perfect. I am sure Jemimah got sick at some point, may have recovered. But the point is the knowledge of Job about God is clearer in his later days. His faith in God is stronger in his later days. and this is the real blessing. Knowing that God is good.
The way I understand things is that we should look at God as being a covenant God, whether we are reading of him in the Old Testament, or in the New. Even in Job the people seemed to understand God in that kind of way. It shows in their words. They were very much about the rewards of obedience and the consequences of sin. We really should see God as a covenant God, shouldn't we? The majority isn't always wrong, are they? Does God break covenant? The way I understand it, it is people who break covenant with God. My advice is to go heavy on the parable of the prodigal son, and write out a page or so about what you think the father in that parable might be like. Then go read the first chapter of Job. You might want to think about what some father might say if you ask him how his son is doing and he says "Fine". Would you stand up and say, "People, did you hear what he said? He said his son didn't sin!" Now, I wouldn't advise doing that unless there is something important you need to teach at the time, or something like that.
The main thing to Learn from the Book of Job..Is..Do NOT Listen to People! God Told Job to Stop listening to "his friends" and Stop coming up with his own righteousness. GOD and GOD ALONE is our Provider!
Let's remember that the blessings that come from fearing God, especially when we have fallen from that, are immediate and they are spiritual. Life is more than just food and clothing or anything else material, isn't it? Things such as peace, safety, and rest. These things are spiritual and they are of great value. Did Job loose his sense of peace, safety, and rest which he was doing his Job 1:5 activity? I believe he should have. God often gives us warning signs by his Spirit that dwells within. Job had so much of the word of God dwelling in his heart and he had it for so many years. The spirit of wisdom was with him and I don't believe it ever left him. However people in need of deliverance can have layers of darkness that have to be removed. Such things tend to get picked up while living in this fallen world, if we are not abiding in the Lord as we should. Let's think of Psalm 91 protection, something that recently has been told to us so often by the prophetic word of today. It's important.
If Satan told God Job would curse Him to His face if He took away Job’s processions, where do you think he got that idea from? He got it from Job’s fears! Satan KNEW about Job’s fears. That’s why he was confident that Job would respond with curses if God took away his property. Do you think Satan could use that as a means to attack Job if Job didn’t care about losing his processions? The fact that Job feared, it did open the door to Satan. God also knew about Job’s fears. And He used Job’s weakness to bring glory to Himself and to Job.
I believe Job was in fear before his trouble came because he got off the word of God. It shows by his actions of Job 1:5. Because of his actions there, I believe he did not feel in safety, rest, or quiet. That should have alerted him that something with him wasn't right before the Lord. Ah what needless things we suffer, all because we do not carry, everything to God in the fear of the Lord, in prayer.
I love God due to the benefits that God provides, as does anyone. God gives us life for one. If God brought no benefit it would be pointless and this world would be incredibly cold and we would be fine with the cold. This is not the world we live in.
Thank you for this - very helpful, as usual. How do we know that a) Job's children were also the children of his well-known wife, and b) that the second group of children were the children of that wife?
If you were a father and your son went out living a horrible life, thinking way too much of himself and way too little about others, and it was beginning to destroy his own soul as well as oppress those more just than he is, would you want him to fear you for nothing, for no benefit at all, or would you want him to fear you because of your wise and loving benefits which you will not with hold to those so deserving? You see I don't buy into the lie that God wants a people who will fear him for nothing. Rather, I believe he wants a people who will take him at his word when it comes to all the benefits of walking in the fear of him, which he has promised in his word. I believe that is the kind of people God is looking for, people who will not be so easily deceived by any contrary wind that blows. I don't have to buy into a Satanic agenda of lies and deceptions. Rather, I may work to destroy them, by the power of the word of God that lives and endures forever, and I may call upon the name of the Lord to expose these harmful agendas and deceptions of Satan, and pray for the release and restoration of those who are or were used by Satan to further his evil agenda of confusion, compromise, and twisting of the gospel of repentance. No, we don't have to go along with a gospel of pity and tolerance. We may go along with, support, promote, and even proclaim the good news of repentance, when sin is evident. Job was clearly enough to me, not walking by the Holy Spirit when he said within his heart that it may be that his sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts, and isn't it interesting that with what measure Job measured unto his sons, that it came back on him? I find that interesting, especially in light of what Jesus said in Matthew 7:1-5. Who is it that decides what is right and wrong if not Jesus, and he never contradicts the teaching of scripture. In fact, I believe he is even for a man who has a servant, who speaks well of that servant, as if he is seeing him on the best day that servant ever had, even though he got off the right path in life for a season. If he is a loving master, being willing to do all he can for that servant with plans of prosperity and peace, righteousness and truth, restoration and redemption, I don't think Jesus would forbid such a view of a master toward his servant, if that is what the master wants to see, and is totally committed to help bring about again, especially when involved in an adversarial conversation with an enemy of his. I just cant see Jesus finding fault with such a one at all in a situation like that, can you? And would you find fault with a neighbor of such a master who noticed his servant go the wrong way and even said so, when in fact that servant really did? If so, why would you do that, if the thing said was only said in a godly way and for a godly reason? Yet it was always the Pharisees that were looking for a fault with Jesus, were they not? Well let me clue you in on something. Jesus didn't live by moral faults. He was perfect all the time, always doing the Father's will and always in obedience to his word. He never sinned and he was the perfect lamb of God, without any faults that all the rest of us have. Jesus was a bit different from all of us in this regard. He never sinned or fell short of God's glory.
I don't believe it's God's narrative "Will Job fear God for naught." However, I do believe that is Satan's narrative. I believe God was up to something higher and more noble a cause.
Could parts of Job predate the Torah? Hugh Ross claims there is more information in Job about the Creation than in Genesis. Moses would therefore have streamlined his creation narrative knowing he doesn’t need to restate details already in Job. Any possibility of this?
From the AskDrBrown Team: It's always great to meet another Jewish believer in Yeshua, especially a Hebrew speaker! Dr. Brown's commentary on Job is available in English in hardcover or as an e-book, but we're not aware of any free resources on Job along these lines.
I believe Job very well might have avoided all that trouble that came to him in one day. Think seriously about that, will you? See if I'm not right about that. Take it to the Lord and see what he tells you about that.
A great insight I learned from Rev. David Silversides: Satan killed all of Job's children but did not kill his wife. When you remember what happened in the garden: wife leading her husband to sin... His methods never change. The book of Job also shows how Satan truly is the father of lies. In the paradise he say to man: "God's not been good enough to you." in the book of Job he says to God: "you've been too good to man". The book of Job utterly destroys word of faith theology. The friends of Job were the first word of faith people: "no smoke without fire." Sin = sufferings. Righteousness = no sufferings. Lie. They don't understand that God glorifies Himself through manifesting the sincerity of His people in their sufferings. Nothing humiliates Satan like him seeing that there are people who love God for the sake of God alone, not because of what they can get out of Him, something Satan can never understand. I like what I'm hearing Dr. Brown. I've heard too many charismatics explaining away God’s sovereignty and purpose in our sufferings. You seem to be on the same page with reformed commentators on the book of Job. Have you read Calvin's sermons on Job published by Banner? God bless you.
Job is not a Christian or have Mosaic covanent. It's before both. If we read Job through either thought process we already will interpret the book wrong. Job could not see Job chapter 1 & 2 and could only respond to these disasters with the very limited information/revelation of God thus why he does end up blaming God, and calling himself more righteous than God. God corrects Job, Job repents. Job is the case study of man without a covenant with a God he's only heard of but has no revelation of.
Listen, I don't buy this "God wants people who will fear him for naught", for even those who promote the idea don't hold Job accountable to fearing God. I see no integrity in their way. Who is it that forms man in his mother's womb? Who is he that determines our days? Who is he that knows the times better than we? Who are we to say we should not have been born? I just don't see the fear of the Lord manifest while speaking such bitterness against him who numbers the hair on our heads and knows every one of our days. We certainly don't know the full magnitude of how important our lives have been to other people or how important it was for God's purposes and plan, do we? If we think we know about that better than he does, well that's simply deception and it's pride and arrogance, and it's not the fear of the Lord, even IF you think you want to believe it's all for nothing. Is it that such people believe in once perfect always perfect, that they can't find any faults in Job's ways? What is the problem? They go on making excuses for Job, as they basically preach a gospel of pity and tolerance rather than a gospel of repentance, and then it's right in the middle of a homosexual movement of pity and tolerance. Where did the homosexual agenda people get the idea or permission to go about a pity and tolerance movement anyway? Did they learn that from the men behind the pulpits? Did they read their books? Maybe I should wonder, shouldn't I? Yet some will proclaim how they've written their books against the homosexual agenda, but then men often will work two sides. Men will often be on both sides of the fence. Men will often be double minded. Men will often flip flop just as Job did during his trial of faith, won't they? Well just because Job did it, and just because some preachers did it, does that mean it's the right thing to do? No, I just don't see integrity in their ways like that. I really don't. Either we should make the tree good and it's fruit good, or maybe the Lord would prefer that we would make it all bad. It would make his job a lot easier, wouldn't it? Yet, let's remember that nothing is too difficult for the Lord to sort out. I trust he will get to it, as he delivers the oppressed out from under the religious or worldly oppression. We may certainly call upon his name and ask for his justice to come, right?
So the ‘great cosmic battle’ is between almighty God, the creator of the universe, and some pathetic loser named ‘the adversary’ - literally just another one of God’s creation! And that’s the GREAT cosmic battle? And that’s why Job’s children were murdered? So that God can prove a point?
Believers of the bible often speak of books they can defend but avoid at all cost the books and passages that are not defendable. For example Genesis 1 is disputed in Genesis 2. Have you ever heard any one address this discrepancy? No.
I can see how much you love the Word and the Lord Dr.Brown, your eyes sure light up, I greatly appreciate your work and I am excited to read your commentary on Job
I am enjoying the book . Reading it slowly in a bible study . It makes so much sense with you explaining it ~~ ! TY Dr. M.
Thank you so much. I need to read the book.
For a breakthrough understanding of the Book of Job, read the novel “Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke.” Advanced. Good.
Good evening, I'm from Indonesia, I have a friend named Nur Hapipah. She is a Muslim. I asked for her prayer because she knew nothing about her religion even though she was religious. I am sure the prayers of the righteous will be answered. Thank you
Dear father this brother has asked for a prayer for this Muslim lady father we cannot save ourselves we cannot open our own eyes I pray that you open her eyes and draw her to you protect her watch over her father help her to come to believe ,help to have an experience with the living God and Jesus Christ I pray this in Jesus name amen ,bless her keep her safe watch over her father amen
I use the KVJ, but some Bibles translate Job 1:8 using the words "set thine heart upon" rather than "considered". In Job 34:14, Elihu uses the words "set his heart upon" speaking of the Lord, that is, saying in effect if the Lord set his heart upon man all flesh would perish together.
This might help us see the adversarial relationship between Satan and the Lord in Job 1:8-12. They will not be getting along nicely as friends. There is no friendship between them. There is no communion between God who is light and Satan who is darkness. That's the context where we should be listening to the conversation in Job 1:8-12, as well as going heavy on the parable of the Prodigal son, focusing on the father's heart, as our foundation, doing so in faith. Evan as the prodigal son was away, I believe his father had a plan for him that was stronger than the strength of his son's sin in going away, much stronger, in fact, a plan of good and prosperity, and not of evil. Let's also remember John 10:10,11.
Thank you for this Dr Brown 🥺🙏🏽
I just got you book.
And i love it, im only upto chapter 5 but its exactly what id hoped for!
When i read job i had no idea what was going on, but this is really helping me understand not just the theology, but the actual stroy.
Ive read 5 books in my life (not kidding) and although i find it difficult at first but, im getting in the groove of it and i will definitely read it again when im done.
Even when we are deceived, God wants us to fear him the right way. It's never without benefit.
THIS IS TRULY AWESOME! LIQUID GOLD! THANKS MICHAEL, SHALOM.🎵🎶🎻🎺🎹
Dr. Brown, i think Job had problems in his later life as well. I am sure it was not perfect. I am sure Jemimah got sick at some point, may have recovered. But the point is the knowledge of Job about God is clearer in his later days. His faith in God is stronger in his later days. and this is the real blessing. Knowing that God is good.
Thank you #fortunateyouth
The way I understand things is that we should look at God as being a covenant God, whether we are reading of him in the Old Testament, or in the New. Even in Job the people seemed to understand God in that kind of way. It shows in their words. They were very much about the rewards of obedience and the consequences of sin. We really should see God as a covenant God, shouldn't we? The majority isn't always wrong, are they? Does God break covenant? The way I understand it, it is people who break covenant with God. My advice is to go heavy on the parable of the prodigal son, and write out a page or so about what you think the father in that parable might be like. Then go read the first chapter of Job. You might want to think about what some father might say if you ask him how his son is doing and he says "Fine". Would you stand up and say, "People, did you hear what he said? He said his son didn't sin!" Now, I wouldn't advise doing that unless there is something important you need to teach at the time, or something like that.
The main thing to Learn from the Book of Job..Is..Do NOT Listen to People! God Told Job to Stop listening to "his friends" and Stop coming up with his own righteousness. GOD and GOD ALONE is our Provider!
But we live with people and many many solve problems of others too
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God has Done me the Best! Sometimes people agree..but if they don’t..I go with God.
Let's remember that the blessings that come from fearing God, especially when we have fallen from that, are immediate and they are spiritual. Life is more than just food and clothing or anything else material, isn't it? Things such as peace, safety, and rest. These things are spiritual and they are of great value. Did Job loose his sense of peace, safety, and rest which he was doing his Job 1:5 activity? I believe he should have. God often gives us warning signs by his Spirit that dwells within. Job had so much of the word of God dwelling in his heart and he had it for so many years. The spirit of wisdom was with him and I don't believe it ever left him. However people in need of deliverance can have layers of darkness that have to be removed. Such things tend to get picked up while living in this fallen world, if we are not abiding in the Lord as we should. Let's think of Psalm 91 protection, something that recently has been told to us so often by the prophetic word of today. It's important.
If Satan told God Job would curse Him to His face if He took away Job’s processions, where do you think he got that idea from? He got it from Job’s fears! Satan KNEW about Job’s fears. That’s why he was confident that Job would respond with curses if God took away his property. Do you think Satan could use that as a means to attack Job if Job didn’t care about losing his processions? The fact that Job feared, it did open the door to Satan. God also knew about Job’s fears. And He used Job’s weakness to bring glory to Himself and to Job.
I believe Job was in fear before his trouble came because he got off the word of God. It shows by his actions of Job 1:5. Because of his actions there, I believe he did not feel in safety, rest, or quiet. That should have alerted him that something with him wasn't right before the Lord. Ah what needless things we suffer, all because we do not carry, everything to God in the fear of the Lord, in prayer.
I love God due to the benefits that God provides, as does anyone. God gives us life for one. If God brought no benefit it would be pointless and this world would be incredibly cold and we would be fine with the cold. This is not the world we live in.
Amen. Thanks. An amazing book that goes into Bible stories is 'Revealing Bible Stories'. Blessings.
Thank you for this - very helpful, as usual.
How do we know that a) Job's children were also the children of his well-known wife, and b) that the second group of children were the children of that wife?
If you were a father and your son went out living a horrible life, thinking way too much of himself and way too little about others, and it was beginning to destroy his own soul as well as oppress those more just than he is, would you want him to fear you for nothing, for no benefit at all, or would you want him to fear you because of your wise and loving benefits which you will not with hold to those so deserving?
You see I don't buy into the lie that God wants a people who will fear him for nothing. Rather, I believe he wants a people who will take him at his word when it comes to all the benefits of walking in the fear of him, which he has promised in his word. I believe that is the kind of people God is looking for, people who will not be so easily deceived by any contrary wind that blows.
I don't have to buy into a Satanic agenda of lies and deceptions. Rather, I may work to destroy them, by the power of the word of God that lives and endures forever, and I may call upon the name of the Lord to expose these harmful agendas and deceptions of Satan, and pray for the release and restoration of those who are or were used by Satan to further his evil agenda of confusion, compromise, and twisting of the gospel of repentance.
No, we don't have to go along with a gospel of pity and tolerance. We may go along with, support, promote, and even proclaim the good news of repentance, when sin is evident.
Job was clearly enough to me, not walking by the Holy Spirit when he said within his heart that it may be that his sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts, and isn't it interesting that with what measure Job measured unto his sons, that it came back on him? I find that interesting, especially in light of what Jesus said in Matthew 7:1-5. Who is it that decides what is right and wrong if not Jesus, and he never contradicts the teaching of scripture.
In fact, I believe he is even for a man who has a servant, who speaks well of that servant, as if he is seeing him on the best day that servant ever had, even though he got off the right path in life for a season. If he is a loving master, being willing to do all he can for that servant with plans of prosperity and peace, righteousness and truth, restoration and redemption, I don't think Jesus would forbid such a view of a master toward his servant, if that is what the master wants to see, and is totally committed to help bring about again, especially when involved in an adversarial conversation with an enemy of his. I just cant see Jesus finding fault with such a one at all in a situation like that, can you?
And would you find fault with a neighbor of such a master who noticed his servant go the wrong way and even said so, when in fact that servant really did? If so, why would you do that, if the thing said was only said in a godly way and for a godly reason?
Yet it was always the Pharisees that were looking for a fault with Jesus, were they not? Well let me clue you in on something. Jesus didn't live by moral faults. He was perfect all the time, always doing the Father's will and always in obedience to his word. He never sinned and he was the perfect lamb of God, without any faults that all the rest of us have. Jesus was a bit different from all of us in this regard. He never sinned or fell short of God's glory.
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Who wrote the book of Job ?
The Holy Spirit who waited. (see Job 32:16)
I don't believe it's God's narrative "Will Job fear God for naught." However, I do believe that is Satan's narrative. I believe God was up to something higher and more noble a cause.
Could parts of Job predate the Torah? Hugh Ross claims there is more information in Job about the Creation than in Genesis. Moses would therefore have streamlined his creation narrative knowing he doesn’t need to restate details already in Job. Any possibility of this?
ד"ר האם יש את הספר בעברית גם אם אין בעברית אשמח באנגלית.
אם אפשר לקבל במתנה כי אני לא יכולה להרשות לעצמי לקנות.
אני יהודיה שמאמינה במשיח ישראל.
From the AskDrBrown Team: It's always great to meet another Jewish believer in Yeshua, especially a Hebrew speaker! Dr. Brown's commentary on Job is available in English in hardcover or as an e-book, but we're not aware of any free resources on Job along these lines.
I believe Job very well might have avoided all that trouble that came to him in one day. Think seriously about that, will you? See if I'm not right about that. Take it to the Lord and see what he tells you about that.
Your wrong about ELIHU ITS AN AI. HE NEVER LEAVES HE'S TALKING
Kindle E-version of book on Job $37? Michael!!!!!!! I love your work but that's pretty steep.
For an academic book, that's completely normal.
Christianbook.com has his book of Job for 25 $
@@joeboxter3635 He says right in the video that it is, yes.
@@joeboxter3635 Are you accusing him of lying?
@@joeboxter3635 I have no obligation to you. Deal with it.
A great insight I learned from Rev. David Silversides: Satan killed all of Job's children but did not kill his wife. When you remember what happened in the garden: wife leading her husband to sin... His methods never change.
The book of Job also shows how Satan truly is the father of lies. In the paradise he say to man: "God's not been good enough to you." in the book of Job he says to God: "you've been too good to man".
The book of Job utterly destroys word of faith theology. The friends of Job were the first word of faith people: "no smoke without fire." Sin = sufferings. Righteousness = no sufferings. Lie. They don't understand that God glorifies Himself through manifesting the sincerity of His people in their sufferings. Nothing humiliates Satan like him seeing that there are people who love God for the sake of God alone, not because of what they can get out of Him, something Satan can never understand.
I like what I'm hearing Dr. Brown. I've heard too many charismatics explaining away God’s sovereignty and purpose in our sufferings. You seem to be on the same page with reformed commentators on the book of Job. Have you read Calvin's sermons on Job published by Banner? God bless you.
Job is not a Christian or have Mosaic covanent. It's before both. If we read Job through either thought process we already will interpret the book wrong. Job could not see Job chapter 1 & 2 and could only respond to these disasters with the very limited information/revelation of God thus why he does end up blaming God, and calling himself more righteous than God. God corrects Job, Job repents. Job is the case study of man without a covenant with a God he's only heard of but has no revelation of.
@Noé André I believe it points to the book of Job being in the time during the Jewish slavery in Egypt. Right before Moses being banished.
Listen, I don't buy this "God wants people who will fear him for naught", for even those who promote the idea don't hold Job accountable to fearing God. I see no integrity in their way. Who is it that forms man in his mother's womb? Who is he that determines our days? Who is he that knows the times better than we? Who are we to say we should not have been born? I just don't see the fear of the Lord manifest while speaking such bitterness against him who numbers the hair on our heads and knows every one of our days. We certainly don't know the full magnitude of how important our lives have been to other people or how important it was for God's purposes and plan, do we? If we think we know about that better than he does, well that's simply deception and it's pride and arrogance, and it's not the fear of the Lord, even IF you think you want to believe it's all for nothing.
Is it that such people believe in once perfect always perfect, that they can't find any faults in Job's ways? What is the problem? They go on making excuses for Job, as they basically preach a gospel of pity and tolerance rather than a gospel of repentance, and then it's right in the middle of a homosexual movement of pity and tolerance. Where did the homosexual agenda people get the idea or permission to go about a pity and tolerance movement anyway? Did they learn that from the men behind the pulpits? Did they read their books? Maybe I should wonder, shouldn't I?
Yet some will proclaim how they've written their books against the homosexual agenda, but then men often will work two sides. Men will often be on both sides of the fence. Men will often be double minded. Men will often flip flop just as Job did during his trial of faith, won't they? Well just because Job did it, and just because some preachers did it, does that mean it's the right thing to do?
No, I just don't see integrity in their ways like that. I really don't. Either we should make the tree good and it's fruit good, or maybe the Lord would prefer that we would make it all bad. It would make his job a lot easier, wouldn't it? Yet, let's remember that nothing is too difficult for the Lord to sort out. I trust he will get to it, as he delivers the oppressed out from under the religious or worldly oppression. We may certainly call upon his name and ask for his justice to come, right?
So the ‘great cosmic battle’ is between almighty God, the creator of the universe, and some pathetic loser named ‘the adversary’ - literally just another one of God’s creation! And that’s the GREAT cosmic battle? And that’s why Job’s children were murdered? So that God can prove a point?
Believers of the bible often speak of books they can defend but avoid at all cost the books and passages that are not defendable. For example Genesis 1 is disputed in Genesis 2. Have you ever heard any one address this discrepancy? No.
Explain.
Dr. Michael S Heiser