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- Easily remodel carpeted stairs to beautiful hardwood
Use a urethane based construction adhesive with RetroTreads
Wider cove covers imperfections in existing stairway
Solid red oak
Strong tongue and groove juncture between tread cap and nosing
Installation Video for Retreads by Stairtek
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I want to first say, no offense to Ray who filmed and posted this video. However, please don't anybody follow his method of cutting the stair treads to length on a tablesaw. There is a tremendous risk of kickback, which can essentially fire the piece of wood back at you with tremendous velocity, and in the process pull your hand into the spinning blade. This is especially true without a splitter, and in the way he paused his cut while raising the blade. Please, if you must use a table saw, do not use the fence for a crosscut. Use a crosscut sled or miter gauge. Better yet, find yourself a sliding miter saw to rent and you will have a much easier to execute, and more accurate cut. Thank you, and again, no offense to Ray. Safety first.
Kevin Pintar I totally agree with you. Thanks for the feedback.
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Didnt know these were a thing, thought I would have to tear out all the threads an risers. Glad I found this video first. Great job!!
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Nice work but be careful with the piece between the fence and the blade on the table saw. That’s a projectile/kickback waiting to happen. Either use a sliding miter gauge and get the fence out of the way or use a makeshift crosscut sled to perform those cross cuts.
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Looks good! I don't blame you for not removing the old tile. Depending on the age, they could have had asbestos in them.
I agree, 'cause that's what I deal with in this 1950's house every time I do a job. If it's not a lead reclamation job I'm doing it's me staring at the asbestos saying nah. I'm getting ready to take outdoor green grass like carpeting off my treads in the garage and I have no clue what I'm going to find. Just a disaster. Great advice, he did a great job.
Great job explaining home this is done. I really believe with your explanation verbal and demonstrations I will be able to do this. Thank you so very much.
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Good video. Clear in content, but really sloppy in execution: you rely on filler caulk at the edges instead of using a precise jig to accurately measure the riser and the run discrepancies. When upgrading existing stair on existing framing, it is much more important to take exact impressions of the pieces you're cutting, because the existing framing has imperfections that should be addressed by the installation, not after-installation with filler. It's a pity to waste good-looking wood grain by terminating the edges in caulking. Also: you should have finished the run (tread) before installing, so that the stain and finish are done under controlled conditions in a shop or on a table, not on your knees with poor stair lighting: cutting pre-finished steps makes the work much easier when installing, and much more professional-looking without adding extra work.
Thanks for your sharing your thoughts.
Thank you for this video. I started planning this project the week. I'm using the same tread/riser products, but I need to share that I am contemplating NOT cutting off the tread nose & compensating to meet code with a thicker pine riser. My reason is that I'm having the HARDEST time cutting off the tread nose. & even if I cut it off it WILL impact building code. Measure twice & cut once... if my measurements on the 1st step don't work with the thicker pine, I'll break down & ask for someone to help cut the noses off....I need to share that I was using a compact circular saw & the depth WAS set properly but it wouldn't cut thru. I have a regular size circular saw & will try again. Lol just sharing my challenge with this project. I'm an interior architect so it will definitely bug me if code is not right. It appears that code was already off. Also regarding my starting turnout step, I'm ordering a kit from a company in the Midwest called Westfire Stair Parts. I called ahead & the guy who called me back was super helpful. My kit ( riser, tread & cove moulding -straight & for the curve) is on sale for $181.00.
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Good video. I have almost all the bullnoses cut off my stairs. Your video helps me to relax a little knowing I'm on the right track! I always get a little nervous using my table saw. Thanks again!
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Great video - Thanks for taking the time to explain every step. Now I know how to upgrade my stairs.
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Beautiful. Thank you for the tutorial, now I can do my ugly 1950's basement staircase. Great job. Those treads are gorgeous that's exactly what I was looking at to purchase.
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I was nervous when you went to raise the tablesaw blade to meet the bullnose cut on the tread but it worked out for you. That was great. I followed the info pretty good. I'm glad the project turned out well. The stairs look great. The soundtrack was good too.
Chad Calley thanks for the feedback . Once I printed , trim and stain the stairwell it all came together. Please remember to subscribe to the channel.
Great video. We have the exact risers and treads we’ll be installing and had to watch to make sure my husband does it right! Lol.
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Darn, I watched about a jillion (well, at least a zillion) videos before I redid my stairs. I wish I had watched this one!
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What dimensions are the risers? Can I get them at Home Depot?
Please read the description below ⬇️ in video for more information.
Pretty mediocre work at best..those thin glue lam treads will be cracking and splitting before too long.
I would strongly disagree with that sentiment. I haven’t had any problems with it yet. Now 2023 still going strong 💪.
Pretty mediocre understanding of the materials used....The treads are 5/8" thick solid hardwood. The risers are thin. Do you step on or put weight on risers?
Thanks. Anyone out there please correct me if I’m wrong. Aren’t the risers supposed to go on first and then the treads meet the risers?
When building stairs from stringers Always do risers before treads. (This is so you can use the upper edge of risers as your reference "level". Stringers are never level.) When doing a "retro" overlay you can do all the risers first OR the method shown here. Some people like it one way, some the other.
There is no official right or wrong in a project like this. No code or standard governs it. It is completely up to the person performing the job.
Looks very nice!!! Now come do mine plz!
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Great video! Is the distance from the floor to the tread on the first step higher than the other steps?
You will not notice any difference once it is installed. I planning to do a follow up video on this project. Stay tuned.
Usually yes. But depends on thickness of flooring. Keep within 3/8" to comply with code.
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I have old stair treads in my back hallway just a few have worn and aren't as flat anymore but I heard about retreads that they can go over your existing treads. My stairs are similar like in this video. We have been doing projects hear and there and thinking about doing this in basement too. Any advice? Will I need wood wood filler? Will I need to place a thin layer of plywood before placing the retread over the treads? Now that the 2eather is getting better trying to think of ideas
Thanks for the questions. Just have a plan. Think of the best way to approach your project and executed. And make sure you have the right tools. Good luck 🍀
@DIY RAY what type of glue can I poor if the stairs are built in. I have my drill bits. I knows it's either a syrup or glue to prevent the stairs from creaking that I can poor inside with out removing the treads.
Check the description section for the items that I used.
Tried to watch but can’t stand the music
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"I'm gonna go step by step." LOL! I see what you did there.
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Thanks brother. I'm getting ready to do my stairs too. I'm putting on bamboo. I was concerned with leaving a 1/2" space on each side but I see that it isn't necessary when it comes to stairs.
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Your explanation is really very helpful thanks !!👍👍👍👍👍
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How do you install risers?
With glue and small nails in the corner.
The steps look great nice work. One way to save time is to cut fur strip the thickness of your overhang. Then install them across the bottom. Now you can cut the riser to the top of the tread without having to cut the nose off of every tread. Then the cap tread will be sitting on top of the riser supported all the way down to the next tread.
YOUFLOOR Flooring tips and tricks Thanks for the feedback. That’s a good tip.
I don't recommend that unless you like the nose sticking past the stringers. Other wise you will have to reduce your tread width. You have a 9" rough cut stair which is the minimum. I have seen some overlays done with the nosing sticking a half an inch or more past...and I'm talking finished job.
I need to fix the treads on my stairs and your reference to #retrotreads will definitely save me time. Thanks
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Very good video. I have one question though and I may be overthinking it but, did your stairs feel taller, steeper or anything like that in contrast to your top and bottom floor after installation? I will have to do my stairs as well and I’m just trying to figure the best way to do them. Mine are a bit different than yours though, and they have some curve to them at the bottom few steps. That’ll be my hardest part to deal with so I’m not sure I can use a tread and risers kit. I may have to do something more custom.
Thanks for the feedback and please remember to subscribe to the channel and like the video. To answer the question, for the top and bottom steps I get a lot of questions about the height. Really its not a big issue. The Difference in height it’s only the thickness of the threads and that hasn’t been a problem. You really don’t notice it when walking up and down the stairs.
Be careful the way you cut that tread on a table saw! That is a kick back waiting to happen! Besides that,good job!
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When you cut the tread on a table saw, you do not want to leave the right piece between the blade and the fence. If the blade binds the piece, it will shoot out the piece toward you. Either you have to leave enough space between the piece and the fence, or you have to push through the piece past the blade. I once had a small piece shot by the saw and injured my chest. Lucky it was not my eye.
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Hi Ray, it's a very nice video. It helps me get an idea on my stair project coming up. There is no need for nailing on treads or risers at all. Glue can hold them up well enough by itself; is it right? Thank you.
Yes it can but I would use small finish nail at the edge It wouldn't hurt. just in case the glue is a bad batch.
Did it make first step too high and the last step to short( the riser height) ?
terry holmes no, the stair are the same plus the Thickness of the riser in the treads. That why I cut off the nose from the treads so I profile of the stairs same the same. I hope that made sense to you. I thinks I will do a follow up video to answer some questions about this topic.
Thank you! You saved us a lot of time we don’t have
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When installing the stair board, do you still need to measure the level of the stair with a level? If the level is not found, how to adjust?
My stairs was already leveled. So I didn’t have to deal with that. If your stairs aren’t level, you should fixed it when doing this upgrade. Using shims should help.
Nice job! I’m starting the same exact job soon. Thank you
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Great Video.Easy to understand .Plain and simply love this video ❤️
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Amazing job. This is no small undertaking.
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Nice work. Im trying to decide what to do with my steps im ripping up the carpet. I want to use LVP on them but dont like the stair nose choices. I like what you did and used but i was trying to avoid having to stain cause i usually make a mess haha. Thank you for this video it gave me some more choices and ideas. Looks really nice. Thanks again
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good job,...dont you think the rizer is too high..?
It depends on your budget. I like the quality and easy of use. Thanks for the feedback and please remember to subscribe to the channel.
Thanks Ray! Once the stairs are set, how do you finish the sides?
I didn’t touch the sides. Just printed.
At $40 to $60 a tread, measure longer and creeping up makes a lot of sense.
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I’m about to do this exact thing in my house .thanks!
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Good Job, but please when you use tools write the name or list of tools that u use
Ali Darougar thanks for the feedback and please remember to subscribe to the channel and like. I will update the details section with information requested.
Yes, this is an old post but come on.....If you don't know the names of basic tools, should you really be attempting this project? And if the names were listed in the description, do you think it's a good idea to go buy the tools even through you don't know how to use them and attempt this? Shit, this isn't like hanging a picture. Know your limitations.
Hello I like your video. What is the piece tread with nose call? Where can I get them? I trying home depot but they sale the nose piece online. I want One piece with the nose like you have in the video.
yanneth perea read the below in the details section. I listed items below for your reference. Hope that will help.
@@DIYRAY . I don't know anything about this topic. Thanks to your video I am learning at least little. I checked the information and yes I found what I want. I appreciate all the help.
You did your best but it's not correct. You added an inch to the first rise. At the top, the flooring becomes the top tread.
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Added 5/8", not an inch. And it still conforms to code as long as the existing rise did not exceed 7-1/8" (maximum rise in residential stairs is 7-3/4").
Very useful tips. Thanks!
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Why doesnt any one show how they do the top most part of the stairs
Nice job! Thanks for the tips and inspiration.
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Thank you, thank you, thank, thank you...
Just the info. I needed.
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Wow what a difference! Looks amazing.
You Are Here - Ohio Family Fun thanks for the feedback and please remember to subscribe to the channel and like the video. Very simple to install .
Won’t it be better if you stained the stair noses first before installing them?
I wouldn’t recommend it. Just in case you have to put some small finishing nails and some wood filler do that before staining. Thanks for the feedback and please remember to subscribe to the channel and like the video.
Nice, Real nice. Thanks it has helped a great deal. !!
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Nice Project.
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Thank you!! My next project!!
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It came out good..but he probably should have just gutted the entire stairs and build it all back new and stronger, modern products on older structure aren't compatible. This is why DIYers should not be trying to make how to videos and give tips unless they are former carpenters/contractors turned DIYer..
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It was a How-to video to make over existing stairs...I didn't hear anything about "this is how to totally reconstruct a staircase to make it brand new". There's a niche market for this product and this method. You're the type of person who hates DIYers because you feel it takes business away from you. If you're as good as you think you are, you'll have no shortage of business and should not mind anyone doing things themselves. I'm from the trades and have some opinions about it, but the product serves a purpose for some people. If this guy wants to make a video why can't he? If someone wants to follow it, it's on them to make sure they're doing it right. He's just showing how HE did it.
Looks great. Make sure you take the battery out of your saw before you start touching the blade 👍
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Do you have to add nails to the risers even with the adhesive? Or is that optional?
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Great video, stairs look good! Your video gave me ideas about my upcoming stair project. I have a challenge, looking up the staircase there is no wall on the right side. Any thoughts?
Will the stairs still squeaks without fixing
I have no squeaky in the stairwell.
Nice work, video was helpful.
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What is the longevity of using thin plywood on the stairs? Plywood is usually very prone to having issues long term.
I am in the process of stripping my stringers and found hickory under all that white paint and dark brown stain and the thought of putting carpet on my stairs is awful. I am now obsessed with redoing my stairs in wood.
If you’re able to restore your original one stay with that. This remodel is for people who does not have the ability to restore their original stairs. Thanks for the feedback remember to subscribe and like the video.
@@DIYRAY just my stringers are hickory. The stairs themselves arent resting in the stringers and are plywood and unpleasant pine (I think i haven't fully ripped off the carpet yet)
Old post but for future readers....The product he used is not plywood - it's 5/8" thick solid hardwood.
why are treads so expensive? it's like $50 a step (with riser) to do my stairs. Tread is just a finished piece of wood..
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It's 5/8" thick solid hardwood.
Nice video. What is the final depth of your treads?
Thanks for the feedback, The depth of my treads are 9 1/4 from back to nose. Please remember to subscribe to the channel and like the video.
Thank you I had no idea they had retro fit kits ...
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Isn't the first step going to be higher than the rest??
All the stairs are in line with each other. I love this system. It save me so much money in doing it myself. Thanks for the feedback and please remember to the channel and like the video.
Any reason why you used that glue over something like liquid nails? And did you use brad nails for the treads? Or just the risers
Thanks for the feedback and please remember to subscribe to the channel and like the video. To answer the question, no reason for the choice of glue and I used finishing nails in the corners for the treads and Risers where are you cannot see it.
Avoid water based glue, as this may cause warping.
Yes, old post but for future readers.....You can use Liquid Nails construction adhesive if you select the formula that is urethane based and not water based. Some LN formulations are water based and must not be used on a project like this.
Thanks. I think I can do it now. You were very clear.
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How did u manage the tread from the floor to not be too high and the one from the top to dont be too low since you left there the original threads?
Thanks for the feedback and please remember to subscribe to the channel and like the video. To answer your question, The height difference between the top bottom tread is so minimum you don’t notice it. I thought it would be a big deal but once I got it on it’s totally fine. I may do a revisit of the video to explain and show the height difference between the two treads.
Exactly , i would have ripped the risers and treads out and replaced them with saw tooth stringers on both sides
of the existing , most likely housed stringers and you would avoid the potential trippers.A little more work , sure , but
all the steps would be the same rise . Have a nice day.
@@fast4wood Yes, I know it's an old post, but all the steps would be the same. You're adding 5/8 to each tread, so the distance from tread to tread will all increase by the same amount, 5/8". If your existing risers are 6-1/2", they will remain 6-1/2" after you add 5/8" to each tread. As long as your existing risers do not exceed 7-1/8", you will comply with residential codes (Risers not to exceed 7-3/4").
I understand that all the steps will have the same rise other then the first step and top step . You really didn't address that in the video . For example if you have an existing stair case of each step being 7 inches and you add a 1 inch thick tread on each step , your first step is now 8 inches and your top step is 6 inches , that's all i'm saying. Have a good day !
@@fast4wood Not my video....but as long the first step isn't higher than 7-1/8" it will comply with residential codes (Risers not to exceed 7-3/4"). The treads are 5/8".
Question - when you put the new treads on top of the old treads then you alter the height of the bottom step to the floor ( this now increases in size not by much it still increases ) so is this allowed within building control as there are certain measurements for staircases.
Thanks for the feedback. I can’t answer that question. What is the building code for your area. The stairs came out very nice and I have no problem walking up and down the stairs. Please remember to subscribe to the channel and like the video.
It depends on the building code of where you live, but a popular number is 3/8" difference allowed maximum between steps height.
Old post, but for future readers.....International Residential Code (generally accepted guidelines for residences) state that the risers shall not exceed 7-3/4 inches high and be a minimum of 4" high. Each riser height should be within 3/8" of the chosen height for consistency. Measurement is taken from the tread surface to the next tread surface, basically the distance your foot moves to step from one to the next. Those Retro treads are 5/8" thick. So, if your existing riser is less than 7-1/8" you will comply.
Nice job,thanks
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I'm closing on a home this week and this is one of the projects I want to do. This is a great video! Thank you! I just subscribed!
Jordan Congratulation on your home ownership. I made these videos for people like us. Thanks for the feedback.
That Gears of War hat is awesome!
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Nice backing track bro.
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Awesome thank you
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Nice ima do that thanks😁
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is this how they widen stairs steps that are too small and steep?
AddaGirl I’m sorry, I don’t understand the question. This is how you do a facelift on your existing steps without ripping the whole thing out. I hope this helps.
@@DIYRAY I think what she means is, by doing this procedure, does this help make steep stairs less steep?
@@aprilalexander no, this Procedure will not help on how steep your stairs are. This is simply a refresh of the stairs.
Beautiful I can do that thanks !!
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How thick are the risers?
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Nice colour of stairs
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Nice pun at second 0:53!!
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What typ of wood are you using for the riser?
Please read the detail section for the type of riser.
@@DIYRAY thank you!
You looking like 'sup Denzel.
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Keep up the good job
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In the 508 Ray??
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Thanks really helps.
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is there a reason why you didnt take off the old risers and threads?
M Tahir great question, the reason why I didn’t take off the old risers/threads is because I didn’t have too. The Materials that I’m using are designed to go over the old ones. This makes the Installation much easier. Great for DIYer. Thanks for the feedback and please remember to subscribe to channel
@@DIYRAY would it be problem if i cut my treads to far back?
@@DIYRAY and if the old threads cut is uneven
M Tahir you want to follow my instructions in cutting the old stairs. I had good results. But the new treads will cover any mistake. Remember the old stairs are your Foundation for the new ones.
Old post, but for future readers.....Some treads are routed into the stringers and cannot be easily removed. This is especially true when builders buy pre-assembled staircases, which is very common in new construction going back even 20-30 years.
Awesome video!
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Very informative
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Thanks - very helpful!!
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What wood did you use for you’re risers thanks
Please check below. I included all materials used in this project. Thanks for the feedback and please remember to subscribe to the channel.
Yes, it might be helpful if you label the wood for the risers. I look and do not see it. We are beginners so we can’t assume.
I updated the information in the detail section. It's how listed thanks
Great video, I would love to see how corner stairs are done.
Robin Nichols thanks for the feedback. Doing the corner is just like putting on trim molding.
@@DIYRAY not really, where the stairs turn its normally a wide triangular stair
Robin Nichols okay, sorry I don’t understand your question. Are you talking about the sides. With the treads and risers meet?
@@DIYRAY think in terms of a staircase that turns. Oftentimes there will be a wider often triangular stair to cater for the turn
Just doing my stairs now. For the corner treads, use a template on the old treads and cut the new treads on a table saw with 88 tooth blade. Used a 'sled' (spare board) to hold the corner treads on the table saw and used some scraping to hold the tread to the sled. The sled rides between the fence and the blade. Used a jigsaw with hardwood bit to cut the round edge near the wall. Worked out well.
Very nice job
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Good video bro but when your going to touch the blades of a saw I would take the battery off.
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I'd wanna use screws since my stairs are small and I might need to bring them out
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Great job!
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GOOD JOB. RON ROK
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@@DIYRAY I have a question. we have a stair case that has very very rough finish that is stained. can I use wood filler on the treads and risers to smooth out the rough parts and then sand and stain
@@boomerdog4996 You may want to test the stain with the wood filler. The color may be off compare to the wood itself. but you can do it. Good luck
@@DIYRAY Thanks for getting to me . Thank you for the info. Ron Rok
Great video. I learned more from this than any of the others.
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Thats a ladder! lol
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Are you a carpenter by trade?
No, Just a DIYer. thanks for the feedback.
Great hands on video! Like the technique on how you explained how you tend to creep up towards your exact measurement.Thank you!
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