The Rat Pack (1998) full movie - Ray Liotta
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Let's face it, Ray Liotta was one of the greats. Should have received more honours when he was around. RIP Ray!
I completely agree. Ray Liotta was one of a kind.
True..l agree
I first noticed him on the soap opera ANOTHER WORLD…..certainly blossomed
Ray- the only one who could've played this role and boy did he- rip Ray we love you- most of us won't be in a hundred years but you will.
Hope he is 1 of those that that are in the GONE WITH THE WIND program!!!
❤ RAY!!!
Not just because I am Italian, but being Italian and sixty years of age and growing up with the greats, it was easy to fall in love and admire their beliefs. Why did people think my family was nuts because we had friends of all colors and religions staying overnight when we were kids. My dad, who passed away last year at eighty, always taught me and my three brothers and sister, you never make fun of anyone because they are short, skinny, heavy, black, white, Catholic, Jewish, etc..., your true friends come in all shapes and sizes and colors. Miss you like crazy dad. Love always, Billy
Fellow Italian here. My dad raised us the same way. He was so against ethnic slurs toward Italians, and he was equally against any racial or ethnic slur against any group of people. We grew up to be accepting and tolerant.
@blu48 wow you're so wonderful...you're morally superior to the rest of us who rib each other
@@Charlimartelihahaha right what heaven did they drop down from
You're not remotely Italian and neither was Sinatra.
Thank you and blu48 for these thoughts. Always sad to read the responses of the poorly raised, 'bless their hearts'. My parents, Scottish/English and Italian/Irish raised us to feel the same way. For all their faults, and despite all their other failures, their anti-racist, pro-equality feelings always came through. Maybe it's partly because of all the stuff they went through themselves, especially through the war. Missing both my parents too.
Big Ray Liotta fan here and this doesn’t disappoint!! Rest in perfect peace brother
I never had much interest in the rat pack, although I like Dean Martin, and I never heard of this movie, but when I saw it starred Ray Liotta, I had to see it.
He was one of the best under-appreciated actors in Hollywood, who could make even a mediocre film worth seeing.
Am one too..he better be resting peacefully
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Back when an insult was a joke, and people laughed. I miss those days. Mine were the 70s-80s
Me Too!
Sadly, the free zone just for laughters has been erased , the magical place that gave birth to the Monty Pytons movies and movies like Blazing Saddles is no more .
Me too …now it’s turned onto commieville on steroids
Only white ppl miss those days IJS as you can see his wife was offened.
Same Here
RIP The Rat Pack and Ray Lolita .... you certainly made your mark
That's Liotta,...but your good.
Fk the ratpack! Hope Liotta is ok.
Ray Liotta was a wonderful actor. May he Rest In Peace. 🙏🙏
I was born in 1985, I envy those who lived throughout the 50s, 60s and 70s, they experienced a time, moments I love where music was real, people were authentic and times were good… plus they experienced the greats in movies and music ..unlike todays garbage.. Rest in Peace to them all…
My first born was in 1985 and he loves all the music I love because I raised him around it all his life.
I got to hear all that Music and Watch all of those Variety Shows with the Rat Pack in the 80s. The 80s was Dedicated to this Era at least on TV, Shows and Movies.
Amen! Born in 69 and was lucky to catch the end. Ok...the 70s...huge lapels, leisure suits and Disco. It got a bit funky. Glad it was my early childhood. But the big 80s. Wild times. Actually, my teen years were some of the hardest but damn...do I miss them. It was that magical time where we were casting off the ugly stuff like racism and other ugliness. You saw times were changing. But, people still had enough of the older values like strength and not crying over ever little thing. America was coming back and had some pride again. We had hope! Two major events, the hostages freed in Iran and believe it or not, Team USA winning goal in the 80 Olympics. That..was massive. It reminded us thatm if we stick together we can do anything. Oh..we still had some hard times for sure. But, the worm had turn. We had a President that spoke of hope and loved America. Our politicians were still crooks....but they weren't bat crap crazy. Reagan and Tip O'Neal, dem speaker of the house, had movie night or lunch just about weekly. They may have talked a bit of shop but then...it was just two men hanging out and being men. It was a better time.
Oh...and the music! I feel so bad for kids these days. Saw Van Halen, and most bands for $12!!!! General admission and it was some great band every month. Especially summer time! It was.... amazing! Now.... you pay what....few hundred to watch lip syncing and dancing? You've been robbed!
When we had problems....we leaned on our friends and self medicated. We didn't take pills that made us shoot up schools and we didn't get on social media to see what the outrage of de jour was so we could hurry and change our profile pic or bio!!! We certainly didn't give a damn about what some anonymous stranger thought and we didn't try and impress them with what we thought. We worked hard and played harder and still believe there was an American dream.
That's all gone now. Our leaders only protect their own power and wealth and the wealth of the elite ruling class! We are a nation of whining cowards!
I’m still here.
Yeah but now we’re just learning the truth about some of those people.., like John F Kennedy’s death was a mafia hit. Kennedy=Mafia
Want more truth?
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Actually, Frank didn't go to bat for Sammy over his marriage to a white woman - it was Dean Martin who refused to attend JFK's event at the white house if Sammy was left out.
But Sinatra also refused to perform at any venues that were racially prejudiced because of his love for Sammy. When Sammy lost his eye in his accident, Sinatra famously paid his medical expenses.
@@Zihannya Frank was known to be against prejudice. There is a story of him going to a restaurant and a busboy dropped a entire tray of wine glasses after Frank said to him ''How you doin' kid?'' and got shocked Frank did that. The owner of the place started to berate the poor kid, calling him all kinds of names including racist one and said that he is fired. Frank stood up and asked ''Whats the problem? How much for the glass? 5 cents per glass? OK, you kid. Whats your name? Hector? Ok do me a favor i want you to go and bring me 2000 dollars worth of glass from the back'' The busboy did as Frank said and brought out every piece of glass there was, even some plates. When he brought em out he told the young kid ''Now start breaking all of em one by one'' Frank then turned to the owner. ''If i ever come back here, and Hector aint working, i am going to tell my friends not to come here ever again, and that will be the least of your problems''.
Frank was a legend. A class act unlike anyone else. Stood up for the little guy, he never forgot where he came from. He was against that crap when it was ok to be a racist a-hole. Hell he even convinced the Mob to open the first ever non segregated Casinos and Hotels in Vegas. They even made a freaking fortune because of it.
@@BruceLee-rc2dr Yes, he was willing to stand up for what he knew was right.
Frank stood by Sammy in all he did.
Now everybody has a white woman...isn't it wonderful
Joe Montagna was a good choice though.
Each one of them are doing an EXCELLENT job in this. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Back when HBO made good original movies.
And Ray Liotta does a great Sinatra
I just ran across it when it originally premiered on HBO. I didn't know anything about it being made. I was pleasantly surprised by it being well done and entertaining. There were several HBO films in that era that were great, The Bettie Page and George Wallace bios come to mind along with this one. It seems it's almost illegal for LMN, the Nets, HBO, etc. to make a decent made for tv movie these days.
Lots of good made for HBO films.
This is the one that explains Dean Martin WASN'T a drunk, ran around, it was all an act, called his wife every night.
Don Cheadle is pretty amazing as Sammy Davis, Jr, too
Momo, is Sam Giancana, btw
@@martyconroy3786 Yeah, the name ‘Momo’ Giancana was the last of many hints!
Missing ray and many others that are no longer here😢
Dean Martin was 100% right at the time, and nobody heard him. Yesterday is Today.
And Today is Tomorrow.
Nah, I wanta hear Frank sing Chicago again I love the way he does that. 👍
I'm stunned by the singing! Each of the rat pack singers imitates his character's vocal style amazingly--even though I'm sure at least some of them are overdubs. Don Cheadle twirls a mean revolver, and Mantegna, man, Mantegna IS Dean Martin! Talk about acting!
Dubbing.
See what you can find out. I thought Burt Lancaster was overdubbed in Elmer Gantry until I saw his other moves where he sings.
@@patriciaheil6811 He wasn’t imitating a famous person.
so miss Ray Liotta--one of my all time favs
I had no idea about this film and that these actors played these great roles!! Hats off to new discoveries so many years later!!
I love the fact that Sammy isn't looked at as an Uncle Tom we look at him as a trailblazer. Sammy went though it so others didn't have to. It had to be so hard to be him. Mad love and respect goes out to that brotha.
But technically he would be the Uncle Tom Uncle Tom was the hero
Sammy was the most talented of the pack. The G.O.A.T.
@@andrejamison2723 Uncle Tom has been a Derogatory term for over a Century so no he would not be.
Sammy was an extraordinarily talented man, utterly amazing. I was blessed to have seen him perform live once, in 1988, in The Ultimate Event with Frank Sinatra and Liza. WOW, Sammy blew us all away!! If you have not heard him sing this song, do yourself a favor and look for it on TH-cam, "The Music of the Night." I promise that you will get goosebumps! ❤
@@TheBrownIsland please read the book.
I love that they have Ray Liotta in this !
Perfect Dean Martin
Nice dose of nostalgia for those of us who can recall America before it turned into a bucket of vomit. 60 years later, I am still upset about LBJ murdering his boss. It’s good the movie did not go that far.
Nothing is that different now, just the flavors. Look, you just saw how there was mob influence in a presidential election.
All of them had incredible egos! It makes you question what came first the narcissism or the fame & fortune?
The movie came out the same year Frank died. Of all the 'Rat Pack' only Joey Bishop was still alive when HBO aired this, and one wonders what he may have thought of it. As for me, I thought it was great, and I think that as impossible as it may be to fully capture the essence of any well-known superstar, they did about as good as anybody could've done with this film's casting. They used voice-over dubs for Frank's singing, which is almost obvious since Ray Liotta's speaking voice doesn't sound like Frank's speaking voice at all -- yet Ray's a great actor who embodies the essence of Sinatra in his mannerisms, I think. He comes across as intimidating when he needs to be, Sinatra having been rather volatile at times.
One thing that is a bit anachronistic, though, at 13:35, is when they depict Sinatra's Palm Springs pool having the Queen of Diamonds artwork depicted in it before JFK gets elected. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE was released in 1962, some 2 years in to Kennedy's Presidency, so Frank would not have had that iconic image from the film decorating his pool prior to the election.
Ray Liotta was the best. Rest in Piece
I hope you meant Peace. 😃
Ray Liotta was the man. I can't remember a bad movie of his.
He was a good actor gone way to soon
Some of my uncles spoke about Sinatra like he was family and I guess you could say he was in the Italian way, the same way the theme for the Godfather movie was played at my Uncle Mike and Aunt Lena's 60th. wedding anniversary. They lived in East Palestine, Ohio, near Youngstown, where my 12 aunts and uncles grew up. Hollywood did much to frame the nature of those with Italian heritages and this movie is no exception. My favorite line in the Godfather was when Kate said to Michael, while they were walking down the street, followed by a limo, just after he returned from Sicily, "Michael, Presidents and Senators don't have people killed." Obviously another misinformed American. My favorite "line" from the scriptures, and one that impacted my immortal soul while I was having my "rat pack" fantasies was and is, "What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his own soul?" You tell me if you think you are informed...
Who the hell are you talking to, yourself? One thing is to want to leave a comment on a public forum, but are people expected to know or care who Aunt Lena is? I love that you're Italian but get grip old man.
I’ve been wanting to watch this movie again for some time, I just didn’t want to pay those pricks for it. Thank you.
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Politics. Things are never what they seem. Enjoyed the movie, thanks.
FUCKING KENNEDYS!😆
Yes those boys certainly liked the ladies
Sammy was so talented nobody could stand next to him. Truth❤
Trump has the same affliction.
Yes, I miss Sammy Davis Jr the most.
I remember Ray playing Rachael's brother on the daily soap opera "Another World" in the seventies. His name was Joey Perrini, Ada's son. He was such a great actor in all the "Mob" movies. Miss him.
Oh wow, I love Ray Liotta and I never knew that ty
I never knew about this! One legend playing another! Thanks for sharing this movie with us!
My GOD what a GREAT MOVIE, and I've only just begun watching this, so I know that it can only get better, so Thank You Kindly for this Devine Work Of Art Movie !!!!!!
I LOVE IT !!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Invisible threads finely woven
Excellent cast and all and all
Dean Martin....classic. BTW....in his glass....apple juice! Yup, he was that smooth...that good.
Back When HBO Play a New Movie,Every Saturday Night, I Miss The 90s & Love The Ending Of This Great Classic Movie 😊
I can only imagine the antics those boys got into! Shits and giggles x20! RIP
The Joe Kennedy actor is spot on. Joe laid down the law to Frank.
Awesome movie, with one of the best actors ever. R.I.P. Ray Liotta.
R.I.P To a Great Actor Ray Liotta, Still Miss You Always Gone to Soon 😢
One of my forever favorite movies!❤
I watched this on HBO when it came out and always loved it. Thanks for downloading it on here! I had it on DVD too.
Loved Ray Liotta! Any movie he was in I watched. This whole cast was great. Don Cheadle another wonderful Actor. Joe Mantegna another great actor. This was a good movie. Probably true to form unfortunately. When Bobby Kennedy got in a double crossed the mafiosos then it was a matter of time for curtains.
Just some extra credit for Angus, too, playing Lawford. Great acting to portray someone of middling talent.
Props to Cheadle - next level love for SDJ. (And the pistol skills.) 🌟
Lawford may have been a middling actor, but he was great at Password.
Agreed!!! Wish I saw him in more roles!!!!!
Poorly written. The actors weren't given enough direction. Big flop
¡ PLEASE TH-cam! TRANSLATE THIS PICTURE TO SPANISH LANGUAGE. I LOVE SINATRA AND I
LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE CARACTERS SPEAK. I SPEAK IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE SO, SO.
I LOST THE PRINCIPAL IDEA.
¡ PLEASE PUT SUBTITLES!
If you can read English click on the cc in English, between listening and reading you'll get most of the plot.
Don was AWESOME as Sammy
Its a wonderful cast.
A favorite Sinatra movie of mine. I thought Liotta did a very good job of capturing Sinatra.
the rat pack had a lot of power, esp in Vegas. A lot of talent in that group.
Marylin: "Death of a Mailman" haha too much!
I fell for Ray big time in Something Wild. Man he was hot! Overlooked so many times,Hello Goodfellas. He’s was even n an episode of Young Sheldon. Miss those eyes. Rest peacefully Ray.
He was a great actor still can't believe he's gone
Sinatra and JFK's Friendship was over after JFK didn't show and went to stay at Crosby's. Well, JFK didn't live long after that, and neither did Bobby who advised him to Sever ties with Sinatra because of his association with 2 Mob figures. Meanwhile, Frank Sinatra lived to see Old age and was still Rich & Famous performing up until his dying day filling up the house with Fans and Celebrities alike to watch his shows. Dean & Sammy continued to perform before health issues due to aging. The last time the Rat Pack performed together was 1984.
Sammy, Dean and Sinatra remained friends and passed away mid to late 1990s.
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I loved this film since it appeared on HBO. With an all-star phenomenal cast, fantastic music and acting, I will never understand why more people aren’t aware of its existence.
"I miss my guys" Such a good movie and fascinating characters
The book " Double Crossed" gives you even better insight as to how badly/hard Sam Giancana took the news of Bobby Kennedy becoming the US Attorney General. Sam personally felt that without his (The Mafia) assistance in the state of Illinois, John Kennedy may not have won the 1960 election. It's a "must-read", highly recommended publication.
I heard. Kennedys even are traitors to their own blood ( Kennedys endorsing Biden and giving Bobby Jr the old birdie)
Thanks!
Excellent!
ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT ❤
This song at the 100. Mark is so beautiful, it's haunting Is it called " Candy's Song" ???????
Well done and some-interesting insight. Looking forward to the new one. Although, not sure if Leonardo DiCaprio is the best choice.
Leonardo as Sinatra? I think Michael Keaton would be a good Frank Sinatra 😊😊
@@leighwhiteman818 Interesting choice..but someone who can actually sing, like Harry Connick Jr might be better????
This was so so bad, too fast, no development of how the rat pack REALLY came to be, barely mentioned Bogart.....
Bogie was cultured and intellectual - not at all a snob, but he did realize that contrasted greatly with his tough guy persona. His private and public lives were worlds apart.
Too, he and Bacall's friends in theatrical and
literary circles were as important to them as anything. The fact that they were a team was obviously different relationship from the ones the other rat packers had with their wives.
Guess I'm saying his position in the pack didn't matter for posterity, but it did in his heart.
Back when HBO originals were top knotch.
No K in top notch😂😂😂almost thought you were saying top crotch😂😂
@@bethewalt7385 ...Theres no K in Crotch either (doth protest too much?)
@@TheRealDarrylStrawberryand there is no K in now, if you now what I mean. 😊
This is like when you are sick and having one of those boring but painful dreams that you can’t escape
That's an interesting observation
@@jimisi7424 Amen. There's something about it that rings true.
do u mean the film quality?
If I'm correct, the biggest mistakes that Kennedy's made was double crossing the Italians. They might be criminals, but they were men of honor. It was a fatal mistake.
That and all of his policies.
A great movie of a wonderful time when the music was fantastic. I wish I could have seen the rat pack perform but I’m not of that age group. All people including Frank Sinatra, Ray Liotta and the other actors, Sammy Davis Junior, Marilyn, Dean Martin, JFK, Bobby Kennedy and all the rest are sadly missed. RIP
1:49:33 - those eyes! Shit’s about to get real, Peter! Take cover!
Ya just gotta use your imagination.
This film doesn't get recognized enough.
Thanks for posting this very well-done movie!
Lifetime Network presents *"Rat Pack".*
Check that - it was actually *"Hallmark".*
You know if you look at the 1983 John F Kennedy movie and it is true J Edgar Hoover never liked the Kennedys he tapped his phone he listened to phone conversations with him and Marilyn Monroe and knowing that he met Chicago outfit people when he was in Vegas with Frank Sinatra he met Sam giancana and the rest of the outfit but Jay of the Hoover was a cross-dresser too people have pictures of them that's why he never went after the mob and he said there's no such thing listen I grew up around these people 50 years old I see things in my neighborhood I seen people in my neighborhood when I was a kid I would ride my bike up and down I remember I had a GT Performer and I would know who was who just like in the Bronx Tale oh I wish I could go back to the 80s and 90s
It's not Ray singing but it' not Frank either. They couldn't get the rights to use Frank music.
I love HBO anything! Just finished Succession and The Regime… excellent! Bravo!
HBO has been around 40
Years for a reason … excited to
Watch this! Liotta was an amazing man and actor. Shame he died the way he did. 😞
HBO has actually been with us since 1972....so longer than 40 years, the very first thing broadcast was a New York Rangers hockey game
Back when movies were good and life in the USA was sooo much better than today, so grateful i grew up in the 70' 80's 90's..What a blast with zero cell phones
Love Ray Liotta! Loved un Corina Corina & Operation Dumbo Drop He was great in Cop Kand, John Q, as well ❤️🩹
It’s really too bad that nobody has retained a city block that cultivates talent the way it was done back then. Music stores. Record shops. Theaters. Even the night spots. Today, people are actually following the auditions, instead of seeing the finished, refined musical performance.
Not that a LOT of vice didn’t go hand-in-hand with it-but what incredible skill under pressure, by those Pack Greats, including Lawford & Bishop, live or televised!! Even when they missed a note or two, nothing but poise and aplomb, all night.
No wonder Sinatra had no patience for endless takes by company-employee directors. It’s worth a mention that Sammy Davis, Jr. had the longest career, having been a child when he joined his uncle’s Vaudeville band/act. He was also the first Black TV talkshow/variety host to be monetized commercially, after Nat Cole was ‘unable to be sponsored’ in that way.
Dean Martin had already been given his first break after boxing by Jewish mob men, not Italians, interestingly. Frank Sinatra, also grew up on multiple sides of neighboring bad boys who mobbed-up later as Irish & Italian adults. As did the older Kennedys, Joseph, Jr. & his brother John. Kathleen and Rosemary, too, in all likelihood.
A tacky shame that Politics requires so-called minorities to cut-off old, established ties with the very people who gave many political aspirants their starts. Hypocritical, too! Considering that NO immigrant wave was exactly the crème de la crème of its origin points, truthfully, & very few have demonstrated real skill at actual conscientious, sanguine “leadership” once in the New landscape.
Yet somehow, instead of fresh starts, new values, different futures, each generation saddles itself with proving something to “the folks back home” that none have successfully proven: Justice, and “better living.”
They generate more dollars, to be sure, than ever before. But lose moral compass every time because of blind ambition, egomania, and love of pretense, love of staging, then resorting to lying about grim realities, instead of really working to find and resolve the causes. Staging’s just easier.
Try, try, try though they may, they’re not generating the kinds of talent & spine that era (& others) did. Too busy making-up “privileges” out of ordinary living, & overcharging for that. Too desperately hoarding access which should be granted to every single public schooler-just in the hope of rekindling something vital that’s been lost, possibly forever: Promise. 🎼🎶🎻🎺🎸🌷
I wish I lived in this decade with the Rat Pack the best times in America too bad America's not like it used to be rest in peace Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Junior
Wow...great movie! Thanks for sharing!
I'd hate to believe that Peter Lawford was this craven in real life. I can believe that RFK was ruthless and unlikable. I'm glad that Dino comes off so well.
Australian actress Deborah Kara Unger who had a brief scene as Ava Gardner with Liotta as Sinatra, is the only of all the actresses that has portrayed Gardner in looks, voice and movement.
Ray was so great, a unique talent. He is missed. 💌
An old boyfriend and I talked about how he never did anything stupid or uncool and we'd say things like- Ray Liotta nevah forgets his lunch, Ray Liotta would nevah cut in line, etc. 😀
Antonio Paris,.. love this movie back in 98 when it came out!.. I'm your 870 member....
Why so many Jim Jones Sermons ?!
🎭Fantastic casting Kudos!!!...👏👏👏👏...
Dean Martin never drank alcohol, he was just pretending.
I learned so much. It's crazy because i just watched JFK yesterday. So im exploding mentally right now
Ava’s gardener. lol
Sammy was soooooo good
This is my favorite movie of all time especially with ray liotta in it he is so handsome and very talented
Liotta sounds much better than Sinatra did, to an English ear anyway.
I was born in 1954,and watched the real thing.
I wish this movie was about what they really did!!!!!what they really did was start up Las Vegas and casinos with mob money not about Kennedys🙄😴
Back when movies were worth watching
At the 100: 10 mark piano instrumental.??????
THIS GUY SHOULD HAVE BEEN A SINGER😊
There’s never gonna be a better Ava Gardner portrayal than that chick she looks just like her
Good little movie. Shame about the appalling frame rate.
Cracking film
Great movie ,awesome cast. A true classic.
How did I ever miss this film?
Is that Ray actually singing ❓
Good lord no😂😂😂😂
@@bethewalt7385 ar right.. as it did a little sound like it coulda been
thanks 👍
I thought it was Ray singing the opening song. Didn't sound like Sinatra to me, so you're not the only one. :o)
@@tonithenightowl1836 Someone else said they couldn't get the rights to Frank's music so they used an imitator.
@@rangerannie5636 The imitator did a damn good job. It's prob less expensive than having to pay for the rights. Thanks. :o)
Sammy Davis Jr. was a class act. Yes, the Chairman stood up for him but, he took a lot of shit as well. Couldn't have been easy. Class act and arguably, the most talented of the lot. I really wish some people today, especially the ones that are so infected with politics and ideology...would remember when people like Sammy went through then...so they would have the chances the do now. They have no clue what being offended or oppressed is!!! Sammy took a thousand paper cuts and they shame his memory and sacrifice! Its disgusting and cruel!
Joe Mantegna as Dean Martin. Wasn't sure at first but ...better than I expected.
Well, I must have been working, raising a family and playing hockey. Totally missed this one. Glad I found it.