Interesting! I've played the Ravel Sonatine and the Beethoven Op. 110 - weirdly enough though, some of the 'easier' pieces seem like they would be harder for me! I think I'll take a look at some simpler rep now that my recital is done.
The left hand triplets and the 2 against 3 rhythms are probably the biggest challenges with this movement. Other than that it’s not too bad. Of course it’s marked prestissimo which is difficult to do well with this piece. I would agree it’s somewhere in that 3 or 4 area.
I think 27th is much harder then previos Haydn, so you could add a sonata of lower difficulty, like Mozart's turkish march or something else (my opinion)
I played the Sonata facile, and the long runs that have to be very even and the demand for great articulation in Mozart's music definitely but it fairly above beginner level. That said, I don't think any Sonata is easy
I get that there's only 8 levels so you didn't have much room to work with, but gee, seeing Brahms 3 and Scriabin 5 in the same level is just so... bizarre.
They are in the same ballpark but for different reasons. The Brahms opus 5 is a seriously tough nut to crack given its sheer size and textural complexity. Scriabin's no.5 has the most difficult passages of the 2 but is significantly less demanding in terms of stamina and concentration. You also won't have to deal with 5 different movements that all need to be played in a way that make it a coherent whole rather than just 5 individual pieces.
You're definitely getting somewhere then! The easiest sonatas are still hard pieces. Keep it up and use the higher level sonatas as motivation to keep pushing 😎
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I think Haydn Sonata Eb Hob XVI:52 and Beethoven Op. 10 No. 3 should switch levels
Interesting! I've played the Ravel Sonatine and the Beethoven Op. 110 - weirdly enough though, some of the 'easier' pieces seem like they would be harder for me! I think I'll take a look at some simpler rep now that my recital is done.
It definitely depends on what you find easier, even the easier sonatas still present a challenge!
Boulez Sonatas...
I'm not familiar with them to be honest, will have to check them out!
Where would you rank beethoven op. 31 no. 3 ?
I would say level 5
Where would you rank the 4th movement of beethoven's 1st sonata?, i can play it and i wanna see where i rank up hehe
Good question, I'd say the sonata as a whole is level 3-4, but it's tricky to rank individual movements against entire sonatas.
The left hand triplets and the 2 against 3 rhythms are probably the biggest challenges with this movement. Other than that it’s not too bad. Of course it’s marked prestissimo which is difficult to do well with this piece. I would agree it’s somewhere in that 3 or 4 area.
I say level 3
I think 27th is much harder then previos Haydn, so you could add a sonata of lower difficulty, like Mozart's turkish march or something else (my opinion)
Having performed both of them I don't think the jump in difficulty is that huge, but I do take your point
Beethoven op106 and Brahms op5 really shouldn't be in the same level
Possibly not, I suppose given that there are only 8 levels each one is quite broad, but many pieces could logically go up or down a level
@@Boshy666 no way is Chopin op 58 also on the same level as hammerklavier
@@CAG2 I agree but it's also too hard to be ranked with Schumann, I guess it would be between level 6 and 7 but I had to put it somewhere
I played the Sonata facile, and the long runs that have to be very even and the demand for great articulation in Mozart's music definitely but it fairly above beginner level. That said, I don't think any Sonata is easy
Some of Haydn's are rated a 3/9 by G.Henle's difficulty ranking standards. That's upper range of easy.
I get that there's only 8 levels so you didn't have much room to work with, but gee, seeing Brahms 3 and Scriabin 5 in the same level is just so... bizarre.
@@BlueArchiveAndClassicalPiano They are very very different pieces, so comparing their difficulty is almost impossible 😅
They are in the same ballpark but for different reasons. The Brahms opus 5 is a seriously tough nut to crack given its sheer size and textural complexity. Scriabin's no.5 has the most difficult passages of the 2 but is significantly less demanding in terms of stamina and concentration.
You also won't have to deal with 5 different movements that all need to be played in a way that make it a coherent whole rather than just 5 individual pieces.
Baby pianist (learnt two level 2 sonatas so far)... 🥲
You're definitely getting somewhere then! The easiest sonatas are still hard pieces. Keep it up and use the higher level sonatas as motivation to keep pushing 😎
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Level 5 🫡