I've shot deer with both calibers this year. The internal damage was bigger with the 6.5 Creedmoor. But the 270 had more recoil and bigger hole on the exit side. But at the end of the day. No matter which caliber you shoot. Shoot the caliber your most comfortable with. Dead deer is dead deer. Thanks for the video. Your awesome bro.
I am pulling hard for the old school .270. I have not drifted towards any of the newer calibers, choosing to rely on the time tested classics. Hell, I even have a .284 Winchester! 🤣 Hey! You nailed it! I do wear cowboy boots and I do pack a 1911 daily- seriously. HAHA
270 winchester is a cartridge, not a caliber, and the rifle will have a chamber reamed to saami specs to shoot it. . It's a 277/6.8 caliber though. 6.5 isn't a new caliber. The 6.5 swede was first built in about 1895. There are far far more cartridges designed to shoot 6.5mm/264 caliber for a reason.
I shoot multiple calibers and deer hunt with many of them. While the 6.5CM is indeed a nice round, I still prefer the .270win in a direct showdown. Strangely, this past gun deer season, you couldn't find either one on a shelf so .308 became the most popular choice. I watched guys buy new rifles simply over ammunition availability. Even .30-06 became scarce! Fortunately, the shortages didn't affect me, but I think, ultimately, the best rounds to have are the ones manufacturers assemble and compete with. A gun without ammo serves no purpose. In general, the .270win is still greater in availability, it really doesn't suffer in performance, and the recoil argument is marginal if you have half a brain, between load options, updated recoil pads, suppressors/muzzle brakes, and so on. I haven't found any advantage in acquiring a 6.5CM. I have learned that sometimes less is better, so I've given it a try, but I haven't found anything in my deer woods that has made me feel like the 6.5CM is the better tool. Deer still die, but not any faster. Shock damage is equal. For myself, the .270win will keep its place at the deer cabin.
I have both When I'm going after deer, the 270 comes with. When I go out to ring steel at 500 plus yards, the 6.5 comes along. A little less recoil and a little less wind drift. 270 actually drops less but drop is constant, I can calculate that easily. Wind is much harder to judge and the high BC of the 6.5 bullets makes it pull away at distances past 500. However, simply due to bullet flight time I will not shoot an animal much past 450. Even the world's best shooter with the world's most accurate rifle won't help if the animal takes a sudden step as the trigger is pulled.
Right on! Your range comments make practical sense. I think the deer will be just as dead with either one really. The 270 is a proven elk round though.😊
I've had extremely good success with 140gr hpbt gameking projectiles in my 270. Brilliant accuracy and awsome knock down on large boars, goats, fallow and red deer here in Australia. Never seen a 6.5 crymore and don't see a need to change just for the sake of it. Look forward to seeing them side by side on the range
I own a Winchester model 70 pre 64 chambered in 270 win that’s all original and I own a Remington 721 chambered in 270 that’s also in original condition. Both of them have Leupold scopes, my favorite however is the Remington 721 because it shoots tighter groups and I got Bighorn sheep with it here in Colorado but I have taken many mule deer with my model 70 and can confirm the 270 hits deer like a hammer.
I bought my .270 as a deer rifle that could be capable of taking moose as well (moose licences are by draw only and I got my first draw in 14 years- so no desire to buy a .300 winmag for a “once in a decade” hunt). I thought about the 6.5 CM, but when I did my own research similar to this, I chose the .270. Any round from a .270 will absolutely crush a whitetail. For my moose hunt, I just made sure I had a quality bullet. I went with a 140 grain Federal premium trophy bonded tip. It did the trick easily! (There’s also some 150gr AccuBond options for the .270- but they were unavailable when I needed them). Both calibres are pretty close to each other though; you can’t go wrong with ANY new rifle you’re putting in your safe!
Another cartridge that will do everything a 6.5 CreedM. will do and more is the good ole 260 Rem. Both work in a short action, Both have .264/6.5mm boolot, but the 260 Rem has a tad larger case capacity and sends the same weight boolot dow range at high velocity than the CreedM.
The larger capacity in the 260 remington is used up because the bullet has to be seated deeper to fit in the magazine. That's why Hornady designed the 6.5 Creedmoor with a slightly shorter case. If you load the 260 Remington with a 140gr bullet at max OAL, the bullet has to be seated down below the shoulder taking up powder capacity. They're both good cartridges though.
@@TexanUSMC8089 in an AR platform yea... bit Im not talking anout an AR platform, Im talking about a bolt gun for accuracy and distance shooting.. the 260 Rem will beat the CM all day long in a bolt gun in my opinion for hunting.
I deer hunt with the creedmoor because it kicks less than .270, and it’s quieter. The .243 works just fine for deer, so obviously anything bigger would work just fine
Great vid WTH!!!! I bought my.270 in 1972. Shot everything from prairie dogs, deer, antelope and bears with it. A few years ago I bought a TC Compass 6.5 cr, I love it, shot a few deer with it, but when I’m’ serious I bring out the old M70 270.
There’s good reasoning the old cartridges of decades ago are still around today,Granted some of these new/newer cartridges are good as well,but I don’t wear 500 dollar tennis shoes🤣
I recently picked up a Rem700 in 270. I plan to take it out to 900yds just for grins. I’d do a 1000 but I am limited by the range. Thanks for this video!
Love it!! I have rifles in 26 calibers (too many mouths to feed, I know). You ask me to go on a deer/ elk/ antelope hunt tomorrow and I'll grab my .270 every time. From yotes to elk I've done with .270. You nailed the 6.5 CM shooter to the T!
Why change to something else when the old 270 gets the job done. unless you're trying to get the deer behind the first deer at the same time. I love my 270 from the 70's it was a birthday present from my dad. going to pass it on to my 21 year old on his b day. thanks WHO-TEE-WHO I have been waiting for this one. no skinny jeans in this house. lol!
Great show .. Your Right on everything.. This subject has been on my mind...270 cal = 6.8 mm...270 has more case powder capacity.. BUT MOST Rifles RIFLING TWIST RATE 1:10... This is the problem !. NOT SUITED FOR HEAVIER 270 bullets WHERE 1:8 would be better..Older heavy 6.5 mm bullet in Swedish mauser was around 1:8.5 twist rate....270 win is WAY better..........W T W.Your the Best, Great info..
I’ve got two dedicated hunting rifles. A .270 and a 25-06. Covers small varmints to big game. Both knock deer dead easy. The 25-06 is nice because kills the deer fine with less recoil than the .270. Good for youth hunters
Everything falls down with my 270. Been very happy with 140gr Barnes here in Alaska. 100 years and still one the most popular calibers in North America and used widely all over the world.
Whooteewhoo if I had to choose 270 all the way!! But since I can't choose just yet it's my 243 for now to catch them deer and critters! To be honest I have had some great success with a .22lr on medium sized game. You just have to get a little closer but it's so much fun!!
I agree whole heartedly.The 270 is a far more versatile caliber.The availability of ammo speaks for itself.The flatter trajectory and the harder hitting power. Jack OConnor, rest his soul,proved that the 270 winchester can effectively take deer,elk,moose,sheep and goats.He also used big calibers like the 338 win mag,the 375 H&H,and the 300 H&H. So he wasnt an advocate of standard rounds,he used it all,even the 416 Rigby in Africa. Jack was using rifles and hand loads from the 1940s to the late 1960s The rifles weren't as accurate and the selection of bullets wasnt there in those days.He made a point that with proper bullets and good bullet placement that any big game animal in North America and quite a few in Africa would die just as quick.
(Speaking AS one, for many years) Any western, old school, actual cowboy/rancher/farmer or, anyone regularly hunting *on* "the devide" or west thereof (and a few, wide open places east but, particularly west) has *7,* "count'em," seven things in his life he'd never change (wives got "reloaded" all the time 😉) and, in no particular order of preference... 1. His hat 2. His favorite pair/brand of boots 3. His horse 4. His dog 5. His (usually old) truck And, last but *not* least by "a long shot..." His .270 and .30-06 rifles (flavors may vary). Depending upon locale and game/ pests, the .270 and .243 may be interchanged as determined by "the need for speed" but, the .270 is the more popular, by far. With those two calibers, the .270 often being lighter and capable of faster, "lighter" shooting loads than the .30-06 (or, in a pinch and depending upon the need for just one rifle in a saddle scabbard in the Idaho/Montana/Wyoming mtns., just the .30-06 if you reeeally push the loading envelopes) can cover anything from a prairie dog to a moose/brown bear and at ranges from 50 to 500 yds. Tried and true, sometimes the flashier, sleeker, newer "trucks and bullets" might get the glory (and the younger, dumber girls) but, they just can't replace that old, familiar, ever so loyal and dependable friend. It's true that the 6.5 "whatever" has become the new darling of a number of long range target shooters (over a .30-06/.308) but... The rational, "real life" hunting shots taken with "the old standbys" fall *well* within the range of the .270/.30-06 and the wide variety of readily available ammo for those old, war horses in any nook and crook of those back woods supply/hardware/outfitter stores makes them viable choices, still to this day. Thanks for this video and the memories of frosty, Montana mountain mornings... Oh, yeah, the black and white checkered shoes are "Vans." 😉 "The old guy has spoken." Any trolls or other arguments about why my Belgian Browning .30-06 or .270 rifles suck just "don't float" and will fall upon deaf ears.
The only reason the 6.5 CM has better ballistic coefficients is because manufacturers are making barrels with higher twist rates. Those twist rates are hard to find for a .270 Win
@@nerdyengineer7943 They're also not needed for a .270. 😉 Iy out performs it the whole way. Wind variance at very long distance is where a 6.5 takes a slight advantage because of bullet shape but, that's it.
@@MtnBadger Right, but the bullet shape is due to being long for caliber, which is only stabilized with a fast twist, which you can't get in a .270. If I could just get a fast twist barrel, I could load 180 gn loads with a super high bc, and it would outperform 6.5CM with every shot, at every range.
@@nerdyengineer7943 The point is, .270 already does out perform 6.5 right now. Only at about 1k yds does the 6.5 have an advantage in trying to hitapiece of steel and no rational person hunts at that range.(that's a whole different apple to bite). Watch Whoo-T-Woo's video comparison and you'll see. Absolutely a faster twist barrel would make the .270 better at longer ranges but... Why?? It's already 95% more efficient for 99% more hunters now. Just watch that video. That's all I got about this. Thanks.
The first nice deer rifle I ever bought was a Winchester model 70 in 270 in the early 80s. Used it for close to twenty years before I changed over to a 308 which I still hunt with today. I’m almost 60 years old never owned a pair of skinny jeans, I wear Lowa orSalomon boot. My 1911s stay in the safe with the 270. Been carrying Glocks for twenty plus years(now with a rmr). I have two 6.5 creedmoors that I would feel perfectly comfortable deer hunting with. 270or 6.5 make excellent deer rifles no reason to suggest other wise. I would never sell or buy firearm because of something I saw on yt.
Been a fan of Remington 700 in 270 or 30-06 for 30 years & have taken many deer with both . 270 a well rounded rifle round for sure. Got some 270 from the 90s & still works flawless.
I like both of them. My argument for 6.5 is less recoil and more widely available on top of the wind drift. But that being said iv always loved 270 before 6.5 was even popular
Grew up reading Outdoor Life and all the Jack O'Connor. 270 articles. When I bought my first hunting rifle chose a Ruger 77, in 30-06, with a Leapold scope. This served me well from Florida, to the midwest and out in Arizona for over 40 years. My nephew is currently using it for Texas deer and hogs. Nothing wrong with the classic calibers.
My wife got a 270 years ago. When the crud more came out I did a comparison. You can hand load some sweet loads in either. 130-150 gr for either works great. I prefer the 270. I was always too hippie to be a real good cowboy but I’m a whole lot more country redneck and make a terrible hippie. “Better leave this long haired country boy alone!” Ha! My freak flag is flying down underneath my chin but the sentiment applies!
A lot of my family uses .270 Win. I know l reloaded a lot of .270 shells. Do some .308 and 30/06. The .270 is just a damn fine all around caliber. The Creedmore looks like the case pressure would be high.
The creedmore shines with higher BC bullets. It has a higher twist rate and can handle the longer bullets where the 270 is limited. I don’t have either but I do have a 280 rem which I think is superior to both.
I was NOT surprised at the results, the 6.5mm Creedmoor is seriously over-hyped !! !! When comparing the 6.5mm Creedmoor to the 7mm-08 Remington, the 7mm surpasses the 6.5mm out to 500+ yards before it slows down enough to let the 6.5mm catch and pass the 7mm, all the while the stats for the 7mm were better until the 6.5mm passes the 7mm, but the 6.5mm Creedmoor CULTISTS would have you believe that the 6.5mm Creedmoor is unbeatable !! !!
Greetings from South Africa. Cool comparison thanks. Please include wind drift tables. My argument would be that gravity is constant and therefore drop can be accounted for, whereas wind reading is much more difficult and wind changes often. The 6.5 CM is also a short action and 270 is long action which is also relevant to some people. Especially for a reloader I would recommend 6.5CM.
I gotta give credit where credit is due. Your videos are the most straight up honest firearm videos out here! Love the content! See that Middle Tennessee State sweatshirt you’re wearing. Bit of my nephews go there currently. Good honest school. Good ole southern Tennessee right there! Congrats on another fine video. Georgia boy here!
I have a Barrett Fieldcraft in 6.5 and it is perfect for this rifle. I think the rifle is just a smidge under 5lbs so the 6.5 doesn't punish your shoulder in such a light set up. 6.5 is plenty for deer
6.5 cm seems to be a good cartridge though I have not shot it, but I know for sure the 270 win is a tried and true cartridge, I will use it every time over any of the modern cartridges, my first deer was taken with a .270 win at a 920 yards across a ravine..in Nor Cal in 1973.
I have always been a big fan of the 270 win. Never bought into the hype of the 6.5 however I would not say I wouldn't own one. But the 270's rep is far and away time tested and aproved over decades . I have owned 3 270's and wished I had had never sold any of them . Hard to argue decades of success and availability. There are several of the old school cals such as 308win ,30-06 spring, 270 win, 7mm mag, 300 win mag etc .... that I would choose over the new stuff.
I've taken a lot of game with my 270 compared to my 6.5 creed. But if I had to keep one it's the Creed. The reason as it's just softer shooting and after shoulder surgery I have to go with that. But my all time favorite is the 6.5 grendel. 👍 But I love ALL of the bing bangs.
i have a lee enfeild fires a .303 british and a mosn nagant fires a 7.62x54R (a beast) i am going to add a modern gun and im thinking 6.5 creed or .270
First, your numbers are confirmed by other YT experts who have done similar comparisons, so good job. Second, I have NEVER been tempted to go buy a 6.5 Crudmoor for any reason. Third, my vintage Savage 110L .270 Win. is never going anywhere.
First time out with my 270 I stoned a deer at 120 yards, for northern MN that’s a long shot, I was on the edge of a corn field, dropped in its tracks, for me the 270 is a proven winner with the ballistic tips
I bought ammo before I did rifle ! First store I went in didn't have a rifle I wanted but had 2 boxes 3006 6 bx of 6.5 CM and 10 bx of 308 ..I went 308 and every outdoor store I went in had 308 , even a couple of fleamarkets !
I used a Remington Core Lokt tipped 130 grain .270 shoot a buck, 4 day's ago. 120 yards away and blew up his heart and passed right through. The .270 is a devastating calibre, more than enough power. I have 6.5 Creedmoor that I haven't hunted with yet. The lighter recoil and shoot ability is fantastic. Both will work with the right shot placement.
.270Win will always have a most fond place in my arsenal. Have taken many african animals over many seasons of hunting. I enjoy my 6.5CM, but the .270Win remains top dog loaded with 150gr Federal Fusion.
Lol, I know the comparison man bun to cowboy boots is funny, I'm personally neither cowboy boots or man bun. I bought the 6.5 creedmoor a couple years ago because it was available. I have now taken a couple hogs and a whitetail with my 6.5. Back in the day I took a couple mule deer with my dad's 270.
Thanks again for this video!!! 270 since 1984 and if it works don't fix it !!! Im sure the 6.5 is fine but if I change it would be for less recoil. 243 or 77
A couple points here…first is that the advantage of the 6.5 is with the heavy, high bc loads like Hornady’s 143 eldx or Nosler’s 142 ablr. Their bc is quite a bit higher than what you used here. Second, I don’t think the 6.5s purpose is to outperform all of the bigger long action cartridges in the first place. It just has good performance on deer sized game out to ethical hunting ranges, and does it with low recoil and without burning a ton of powder. I think it’s so popular because people realize that they don’t need to shoot the big boys for most whitetail hunting situations. That being said, I like my 300win mag.
It’s less about drop it’s about wind drift. Long range shooters can easily account for drop wind is much much hard to account for. For hunting I agree the 270 probably has the advantage. The chamber for 270 has a larger margin of error in it so they are usually less accurate than a 6.5 creed.
The trend is heavier bullets in caliber. Longer leads to do this. The 270 been around a long time. Kinda like a B52. Been around a long time, designed well and will be here in the future. Hmmm Great video again Who Tee Who!
Just to be a voice of dissent: I've never seen a deer or pronghorn hit with any caliber that ended up deader than one shot with a 6.5 CM, I don't know many folks who can shoot well enough under field conditions to notice a few inches less drop at any reasonable hunting distance, and a foot-pound never killed anything. I'm 53, bald, carry a 1911, and wear boot-cut Wranglers and Lowa Zephyr boots...nothing trendy about me, but I prefer the 6.5 over the 270 here in northern Wyoming, and feel whatever you shoot well and have confidence in is the "best" caliber.
I have a Remington 700 in 270, and I love it, but it does kick a lot. It shoots good, but I bet I would be more accurate with a rifle that kicks less. My 270 is older, and does not have a bug pad and it kicks a lot, leading to flinches sometimes, especially when standing. I try to shoot it often to practice in order to get rid of the flinch, but I may get a new stick to help with the recoil.
Good points. I don't understand the latest trend that saddles 6.5 cr shooters out to be limp wristed wimps. Hell, I like my 300wby, but would admit that it's more enjoyable to shoot the 243 any day as long as we're not talking elk or larger game. 😊
@@michaellane4003 I know, right? I regularly shoot a 300 WinMag with one of the worst stock designs in history...an old Ruger All Weather! Also 45-70, 458 Win Mag, 44 Mag, and a 454 Casull snubby, and I have spent trigger time behind even bigger (up to 585 Nyati) so not like I can't handle some recoil.
I love em both but I think of my 6.5 more as a range gun (Ruger Precision sniper rifle) and my 270 as a hunting rifle, although I'm not a hunter. I did go hunting last year with a friend and took my 270 with my Sig Sierra 6 BDX scope and range finder
Well point of impact is most important with proper bullet so for proper bullet placement most important with any gun or caliber is the little thing that presses the trigger
I have them both too. Like to see ya do a video on what cartridge you would recommend for youth hunter love seeing you kids hunt. I know there are a bunch out there are good. I started my son with a 243
Adam, you just got it backwards for me. I love my 6.5 Creedmore, and I wear cowboy boots and a hat everyday everywhere I go, and I have been carrying a 1911 .45 acp, since I was a deputy in the mid 1970’s. lol 😂
great content. Myself I think the 6ARC doesn't get enough recognition, but I do like a 270, and personally I think I would take it over 6.5CM, which I think is way overrated especially for a deer cartridge that has been proven year after year..
Great video. I don't think the differences are big enough to make someone switch. I also think your cuff analysis was right on...down to the man-bunn. If you are splitting hairs, long range target shoot with one, and hunt with the other. Either is good though.
I agree generally. The big difference is recoil for me. The 6.5 is very gentle, even compared to the 270. Terminal performance and trajectory wise, the 270 wins hands down.
@@phild9813 I have .270. I buzz my hair, and like pants that let the boys do their thing. (Deep manly voice) I got .270, never really been interested in them funny fandangled cartridges.
I consider myself an old caliber hold out, am 58 years old, wear chukka boots most of the time, and wear flannel shirts whenever practical. I have the 270, 30-06, 243, 308, 223, 7.62x39, 204 Ruger, 7mm-08; and even a 30-30 and 357 lever guns. My 270’s are still my go to guns for deer and elk. But I got to tell you, three years ago I broke down and bought a 6.5 cm Remington 700 Varmint, put it in an MDT stock, lightened the trigger, Leupold base and rings, and Vortex Viper 6-20x scope. It is an amazing tack driver and the recoil is very minimal. It’s a dream to shoot.
I think some of what is missed is the 6.5 is a short action cartridge with 25 percent less powder capacity yet it is still hanging with the 270 with similar weight bullets. If energy is the measure, 1500 ft lbs for elk and 1000 for deer, your chart makes it look like a wash between the two. Now the 6.5 has less recoil, faster twist, a better Sami chamber design for accuracy, and a shorter/lighter rifle. Unless you want just pure velocity (copper bullets) I don't really see 270 as better. Lastly, do 6.5 and 7 PRC vs 270 too. I think those will be interesting.
I have 2 6.5 cm and I'm 50yo and wear cowboy boots with no hair and wrangler jeans , so 6.5 is not just for hipsters. The reason I bought these one bolt and one ar10 is mainly for hogs and yotes , also have 308 and 300 win mag in ar10 can't stand a 270 I've had them all and after having shoulder surgery and 4 stints in my heart just not able to shoot heavy recoil rifles.
That makes sense because the 270 has the same case as a 30-06 except choke down to 27 calibers. I never cared to much for the 270 because the 30-06 had so many more factory bullet weights available Fromm 55 grain 22 cal with a sabot to a 220 grain round nose for over a decade it was the fastest factory loaded cartridge in the world at 4011 ft. per second if my memories serve me right . 6.5 Creemore uses less powder and shoots a smaller diameter bullet it makes sense it can almost keep up with the 270. I do own a 6.5 CM and enjoy shooting it but have not taken any deer with it because I can't hunt any more. Another GREAT video my friend.
.270 inches is 6.9 mm, so slight difference to 6.5. Given the same/similar bullet diameter, if you have same/similar muzzle velocity and bullet weight then the main remaining variable is aerodynamics of the bullet. Barrel length and powder charge would impact the muzzle velocity. Muzzle velocity and bullet weight determine available energy which is degraded by drag along the bullet path. Another difference, possibly important to some bolt-action rifle shooters, is the shorter bolt throw for the shorter 6.5 cartridge compared to 270. btw, the boat-tail Spitzer bullet was a very important development for improved accuracy and range in The Great War.
I have several 270’s and a couple of 6.5CM. I will say this, my savage 110 in 270 win is tack driver accurate BUT wow does that muzzle flip/rise! Maybe I need to get a custom laminate heavier stock for it. It’s an older wood stock with rubber butt pad. Probably early 1990s. But is still beautiful.
First off Buddy my first deer was with a 270 & was my go to for a long time. obviously the 270 is a great cartridge. Love it. However, chief with a 130 gr swift sorroco. In a creedmoore working your way through accuracy nodes. & getting close to max capacity. With reloader 17 in a 24 inch barrel I push a 130 gr pill 3000- 3050 fps @ the muzzle. In a short action platform that’s not bad. Actually that’s what you’ll find in most factory loading in a 270. Just thought id share. I like them all for what they are. & it’s pretty cool that we have so much to choose from. Having said that I’ve never worked up a load for a 270. Enjoy your content especially the big bore stuff you use to put out.
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I've shot deer with both calibers this year. The internal damage was bigger with the 6.5 Creedmoor. But the 270 had more recoil and bigger hole on the exit side. But at the end of the day. No matter which caliber you shoot. Shoot the caliber your most comfortable with. Dead deer is dead deer. Thanks for the video. Your awesome bro.
Thanks for watching Carlos
@@WHOTEEWHO wish you would have included the 25-06 in the comparison . Late on the video due to recovery from pneumonia
I am pulling hard for the old school .270. I have not drifted towards any of the newer calibers, choosing to rely on the time tested classics. Hell, I even have a .284 Winchester! 🤣
Hey! You nailed it! I do wear cowboy boots and I do pack a 1911 daily- seriously. HAHA
Bingo
Can u do 6.5 creedmore vs 6.5 carcano? I have the carcano and have been curious about comparison
Guilty as charged. Boots, 1911 and a 270.
I have a pair of vintage cowboy boots, cobra skin.
270 winchester is a cartridge, not a caliber, and the rifle will have a chamber reamed to saami specs to shoot it. . It's a 277/6.8 caliber though. 6.5 isn't a new caliber. The 6.5 swede was first built in about 1895. There are far far more cartridges designed to shoot 6.5mm/264 caliber for a reason.
I shoot multiple calibers and deer hunt with many of them. While the 6.5CM is indeed a nice round, I still prefer the .270win in a direct showdown. Strangely, this past gun deer season, you couldn't find either one on a shelf so .308 became the most popular choice. I watched guys buy new rifles simply over ammunition availability. Even .30-06 became scarce! Fortunately, the shortages didn't affect me, but I think, ultimately, the best rounds to have are the ones manufacturers assemble and compete with. A gun without ammo serves no purpose. In general, the .270win is still greater in availability, it really doesn't suffer in performance, and the recoil argument is marginal if you have half a brain, between load options, updated recoil pads, suppressors/muzzle brakes, and so on. I haven't found any advantage in acquiring a 6.5CM. I have learned that sometimes less is better, so I've given it a try, but I haven't found anything in my deer woods that has made me feel like the 6.5CM is the better tool. Deer still die, but not any faster. Shock damage is equal. For myself, the .270win will keep its place at the deer cabin.
I have both
When I'm going after deer, the 270 comes with. When I go out to ring steel at 500 plus yards, the 6.5 comes along. A little less recoil and a little less wind drift. 270 actually drops less but drop is constant, I can calculate that easily. Wind is much harder to judge and the high BC of the 6.5 bullets makes it pull away at distances past 500. However, simply due to bullet flight time I will not shoot an animal much past 450. Even the world's best shooter with the world's most accurate rifle won't help if the animal takes a sudden step as the trigger is pulled.
100% the 6.5 is a fine deer hunting cartridge too.
Right on! Your range comments make practical sense. I think the deer will be just as dead with either one really. The 270 is a proven elk round though.😊
I think the creedmoor is an overhyped but still useful cartridge. You sir, just explained it perfectly.
I've had extremely good success with 140gr hpbt gameking projectiles in my 270. Brilliant accuracy and awsome knock down on large boars, goats, fallow and red deer here in Australia. Never seen a 6.5 crymore and don't see a need to change just for the sake of it.
Look forward to seeing them side by side on the range
Being a 7mm Remington magnum guy ,shooting a 270 is a piece of cake 🎂 it doesn't kick like mule,so the 270 got this one hands down.
270 Winchester all day long. Great all around cartridge.
Thanks for watching Keith
I own a Winchester model 70 pre 64 chambered in 270 win that’s all original and I own a Remington 721 chambered in 270 that’s also in original condition. Both of them have Leupold scopes, my favorite however is the Remington 721 because it shoots tighter groups and I got Bighorn sheep with it here in Colorado but I have taken many mule deer with my model 70 and can confirm the 270 hits deer like a hammer.
So fine I have two 270 Remington 700s. Yes 130 g is very accurate. Three shots one small hole at 100 yds.
I bought my .270 as a deer rifle that could be capable of taking moose as well (moose licences are by draw only and I got my first draw in 14 years- so no desire to buy a .300 winmag for a “once in a decade” hunt).
I thought about the 6.5 CM, but when I did my own research similar to this, I chose the .270. Any round from a .270 will absolutely crush a whitetail. For my moose hunt, I just made sure I had a quality bullet. I went with a 140 grain Federal premium trophy bonded tip. It did the trick easily! (There’s also some 150gr AccuBond options for the .270- but they were unavailable when I needed them). Both calibres are pretty close to each other though; you can’t go wrong with ANY new rifle you’re putting in your safe!
Thanks for the video and information. I am old fashion and would stick with the 270 over the 6.5. For my hunting use.
Another cartridge that will do everything a 6.5 CreedM. will do and more is the good ole 260 Rem.
Both work in a short action, Both have .264/6.5mm boolot, but the 260 Rem has a tad larger case capacity and sends the same weight boolot dow range at high velocity than the CreedM.
The larger capacity in the 260 remington is used up because the bullet has to be seated deeper to fit in the magazine. That's why Hornady designed the 6.5 Creedmoor with a slightly shorter case. If you load the 260 Remington with a 140gr bullet at max OAL, the bullet has to be seated down below the shoulder taking up powder capacity. They're both good cartridges though.
@@TexanUSMC8089 in an AR platform yea... bit Im not talking anout an AR platform, Im talking about a bolt gun for accuracy and distance shooting.. the 260 Rem will beat the CM all day long in a bolt gun in my opinion for hunting.
I deer hunt with the creedmoor because it kicks less than .270, and it’s quieter. The .243 works just fine for deer, so obviously anything bigger would work just fine
Great vid WTH!!!! I bought my.270 in 1972. Shot everything from prairie dogs, deer, antelope and bears with it. A few years ago I bought a TC Compass 6.5 cr, I love it, shot a few deer with it, but when I’m’ serious I bring out the old M70 270.
I think you and Ron Spomer could have a 6 hour talk about this stuff.
I agree
He did
Ron spomer lost a viewer talking crap about a 270 versus a 30 ought 6.
There’s good reasoning the old cartridges of decades ago are still around today,Granted some of these new/newer cartridges are good as well,but I don’t wear 500 dollar tennis shoes🤣
@@scottcooksey5284 I must have missed that video. And I do keep up with Ron
I recently picked up a Rem700 in 270. I plan to take it out to 900yds just for grins. I’d do a 1000 but I am limited by the range. Thanks for this video!
Love it!! I have rifles in 26 calibers (too many mouths to feed, I know). You ask me to go on a deer/ elk/ antelope hunt tomorrow and I'll grab my .270 every time. From yotes to elk I've done with .270. You nailed the 6.5 CM shooter to the T!
Why change to something else when the old 270 gets the job done. unless you're trying to get the deer behind the first deer at the same time. I love my 270 from the 70's it was a birthday present from my dad. going to pass it on to my 21 year old on his b day. thanks WHO-TEE-WHO I have been waiting for this one. no skinny jeans in this house. lol!
exactly ! i too have the same situation. god bless
Great show .. Your Right on everything.. This subject has been on my mind...270 cal = 6.8 mm...270 has more case powder capacity.. BUT MOST Rifles RIFLING TWIST RATE 1:10... This is the problem !. NOT SUITED FOR HEAVIER 270 bullets WHERE 1:8 would be better..Older heavy 6.5 mm bullet in Swedish mauser was around 1:8.5 twist rate....270 win is WAY better..........W T W.Your the Best, Great info..
Thanks for watching Anthony!
6.8 western is a .270 cal with a 1 in 8 or 1 in 7 twist rate
Longer heavier boolots
6.8 western shoots 175 gr
.270w shoots 130 gr
@@peterluttgens3364 THANKS FOR INFO ,, REAL GOOD TO KNOW..
.270 is actually 7mm .277
I’ve got two dedicated hunting rifles. A .270 and a 25-06. Covers small varmints to big game. Both knock deer dead easy. The 25-06 is nice because kills the deer fine with less recoil than the .270. Good for youth hunters
Everything falls down with my 270. Been very happy with 140gr Barnes here in Alaska. 100 years and still one the most popular calibers in North America and used widely all over the world.
Whooteewhoo if I had to choose 270 all the way!! But since I can't choose just yet it's my 243 for now to catch them deer and critters! To be honest I have had some great success with a .22lr on medium sized game. You just have to get a little closer but it's so much fun!!
Can't argue with anything you said.👍
Old Guy here. Glad I have the 270. I have not bought into the newer calibers. They are more expensive and harder to find. Thanks for this Video.
I agree whole heartedly.The 270 is a far more versatile caliber.The availability of ammo speaks for itself.The flatter trajectory and the harder hitting power.
Jack OConnor, rest his soul,proved that the 270 winchester can effectively take deer,elk,moose,sheep and goats.He also used big calibers like the 338 win mag,the 375 H&H,and the 300 H&H.
So he wasnt an advocate of standard rounds,he used it all,even the 416 Rigby in Africa.
Jack was using rifles and hand loads from the 1940s to the late 1960s
The rifles weren't as accurate and the selection of bullets wasnt there in those days.He made a point that with proper bullets and good bullet placement that any big game animal in North America and quite a few in Africa would die just as quick.
(Speaking AS one, for many years)
Any western, old school, actual cowboy/rancher/farmer or, anyone regularly hunting *on* "the devide" or west thereof (and a few, wide open places east but, particularly west) has *7,* "count'em," seven things in his life he'd never change (wives got "reloaded" all the time 😉) and, in no particular order of preference...
1. His hat
2. His favorite pair/brand of boots
3. His horse
4. His dog
5. His (usually old) truck
And, last but *not* least by "a long shot..." His .270 and .30-06 rifles (flavors may vary).
Depending upon locale and game/ pests, the .270 and .243 may be interchanged as determined by "the need for speed" but, the .270 is the more popular, by far.
With those two calibers, the .270 often being lighter and capable of faster, "lighter" shooting loads than the .30-06 (or, in a pinch and depending upon the need for just one rifle in a saddle scabbard in the Idaho/Montana/Wyoming mtns., just the .30-06 if you reeeally push the loading envelopes) can cover anything from a prairie dog to a moose/brown bear and at ranges from 50 to 500 yds.
Tried and true, sometimes the flashier, sleeker, newer "trucks and bullets" might get the glory (and the younger, dumber girls) but, they just can't replace that old, familiar, ever so loyal and dependable friend.
It's true that the 6.5 "whatever" has become the new darling of a number of long range target shooters (over a .30-06/.308) but... The rational, "real life" hunting shots taken with "the old standbys" fall *well* within the range of the .270/.30-06 and the wide variety of readily available ammo for those old, war horses in any nook and crook of those back woods supply/hardware/outfitter stores makes them viable choices, still to this day.
Thanks for this video and the memories of frosty, Montana mountain mornings...
Oh, yeah, the black and white checkered shoes are "Vans." 😉
"The old guy has spoken." Any trolls or other arguments about why my Belgian Browning .30-06 or .270 rifles suck just "don't float" and will fall upon deaf ears.
The only reason the 6.5 CM has better ballistic coefficients is because manufacturers are making barrels with higher twist rates. Those twist rates are hard to find for a .270 Win
@@nerdyengineer7943 They're also not needed for a .270. 😉 Iy out performs it the whole way. Wind variance at very long distance is where a 6.5 takes a slight advantage because of bullet shape but, that's it.
@@MtnBadger Right, but the bullet shape is due to being long for caliber, which is only stabilized with a fast twist, which you can't get in a .270. If I could just get a fast twist barrel, I could load 180 gn loads with a super high bc, and it would outperform 6.5CM with every shot, at every range.
@@nerdyengineer7943 The point is, .270 already does out perform 6.5 right now. Only at about 1k yds does the 6.5 have an advantage in trying to hitapiece of steel and no rational person hunts at that range.(that's a whole different apple to bite).
Watch Whoo-T-Woo's video comparison and you'll see. Absolutely a faster twist barrel would make the .270 better at longer ranges but... Why?? It's already 95% more efficient for 99% more hunters now. Just watch that video. That's all I got about this. Thanks.
LMAO I put a 280 up against a 270 any day and win. I'll put the 6.5 PRC up against a 270 and win.
Enjoyed the video. Looks like the 270 is better which I have but the 6.5 is no slouch.
The first nice deer rifle I ever bought was a Winchester model 70 in 270 in the early 80s. Used it for close to twenty years before I changed over to a 308 which I still hunt with today. I’m almost 60 years old never owned a pair of skinny jeans, I wear Lowa orSalomon boot. My 1911s stay in the safe with the 270. Been carrying Glocks for twenty plus years(now with a rmr). I have two 6.5 creedmoors that I would feel perfectly comfortable deer hunting with. 270or 6.5 make excellent deer rifles no reason to suggest other wise. I would never sell or buy firearm because of something I saw on yt.
Been a fan of Remington 700 in 270 or 30-06 for 30 years & have taken many deer with both . 270 a well rounded rifle round for sure. Got some 270 from the 90s & still works flawless.
I like both of them. My argument for 6.5 is less recoil and more widely available on top of the wind drift. But that being said iv always loved 270 before 6.5 was even popular
Have both. I knew 270 had more energy. It's a long action where the 6.5 is a short action like the 308.
Grew up reading Outdoor Life and all the Jack O'Connor. 270 articles. When I bought my first hunting rifle chose a Ruger 77, in 30-06, with a Leapold scope. This served me well from Florida, to the midwest and out in Arizona for over 40 years. My nephew is currently using it for Texas deer and hogs. Nothing wrong with the classic calibers.
My wife got a 270 years ago. When the crud more came out I did a comparison. You can hand load some sweet loads in either. 130-150 gr for either works great. I prefer the 270. I was always too hippie to be a real good cowboy but I’m a whole lot more country redneck and make a terrible hippie. “Better leave this long haired country boy alone!” Ha! My freak flag is flying down underneath my chin but the sentiment applies!
@Dante's Cuckferno yeah another person suggested that same bullet. I’m interested but I have to find powder and primers too. Thanks!
A lot of my family uses .270 Win. I know l reloaded a lot of .270 shells. Do some .308 and 30/06. The .270 is just a damn fine all around caliber. The Creedmore looks like the case pressure would be high.
The creedmore shines with higher BC bullets. It has a higher twist rate and can handle the longer bullets where the 270 is limited. I don’t have either but I do have a 280 rem which I think is superior to both.
270 all day , but I wear cowboy boots, belt buckle and a high tight hair cut and yes I'm 55 🤠
I like the 270! Thanks Adam.
I was NOT surprised at the results, the 6.5mm Creedmoor is seriously over-hyped !! !!
When comparing the 6.5mm Creedmoor to the 7mm-08 Remington, the 7mm surpasses the 6.5mm out to 500+ yards before it slows down enough to let the 6.5mm catch and pass the 7mm, all the while the stats for the 7mm were better until the 6.5mm passes the 7mm, but the 6.5mm Creedmoor CULTISTS would have you believe that the 6.5mm Creedmoor is unbeatable !! !!
I have my grandpas Winchester Model 70 Ranger in 270. My most cherished possession. He has taken many deer with it.
Greetings from South Africa.
Cool comparison thanks. Please include wind drift tables. My argument would be that gravity is constant and therefore drop can be accounted for, whereas wind reading is much more difficult and wind changes often. The 6.5 CM is also a short action and 270 is long action which is also relevant to some people. Especially for a reloader I would recommend 6.5CM.
This one is an easy choice for me. Since I already own a 270 and it shoots incredible I'll stick with my 270.
I gotta give credit where credit is due. Your videos are the most straight up honest firearm videos out here! Love the content! See that Middle Tennessee State sweatshirt you’re wearing. Bit of my nephews go there currently. Good honest school. Good ole southern Tennessee right there! Congrats on another fine video. Georgia boy here!
I have a Barrett Fieldcraft in 6.5 and it is perfect for this rifle. I think the rifle is just a smidge under 5lbs so the 6.5 doesn't punish your shoulder in such a light set up. 6.5 is plenty for deer
6.5 cm seems to be a good cartridge though I have not shot it, but I know for sure the 270 win is a tried and true cartridge, I will use it every time over any of the modern cartridges, my first deer was taken with a .270 win at a 920 yards across a ravine..in Nor Cal in 1973.
I have always been a big fan of the 270 win. Never bought into the hype of the 6.5 however I would not say I wouldn't own one. But the 270's rep is far and away time tested and aproved over decades . I have owned 3 270's and wished I had had never sold any of them . Hard to argue decades of success and availability. There are several of the old school cals such as 308win ,30-06 spring, 270 win, 7mm mag, 300 win mag etc .... that I would choose over the new stuff.
I've taken a lot of game with my 270 compared to my 6.5 creed. But if I had to keep one it's the Creed. The reason as it's just softer shooting and after shoulder surgery I have to go with that. But my all time favorite is the 6.5 grendel. 👍 But I love ALL of the bing bangs.
i have a lee enfeild fires a .303 british and a mosn nagant fires a 7.62x54R (a beast) i am going to add a modern gun and im thinking 6.5 creed or .270
.270 was my first bolt action rifle caliber, I love the .270
First, your numbers are confirmed by other YT experts who have done similar comparisons, so good job. Second, I have NEVER been tempted to go buy a 6.5 Crudmoor for any reason. Third, my vintage Savage 110L .270 Win. is never going anywhere.
I own cowboy boots and a 1911 and love my .270 at age 62, but I still prefer my 30-30 a field. Go figure...
Thanks for posting, WTW! You have validated my preference for 270. Growing up here in Texas in the 1950s it was the go to round for larger game.
Thanks for watching Rich
@@WHOTEEWHO You're welcome. Thanks for all the work you do to validate these comparisons.
Love my .270!
First time out with my 270 I stoned a deer at 120 yards, for northern MN that’s a long shot, I was on the edge of a corn field, dropped in its tracks, for me the 270 is a proven winner with the ballistic tips
I bought ammo before I did rifle ! First store I went in didn't have a rifle I wanted but had 2 boxes 3006 6 bx of 6.5 CM and 10 bx of 308
..I went 308 and every outdoor store I went in had 308 , even a couple of fleamarkets !
The recoil in a 6.5 is a lot less, and yes the wind drift is more in a 270. But the 270 is typically cheaper to buy ammo.
I like the 270 has Moore boogie on it dude Moore knock down power to
I used a Remington Core Lokt tipped 130 grain .270 shoot a buck, 4 day's ago. 120 yards away and blew up his heart and passed right through. The .270 is a devastating calibre, more than enough power. I have 6.5 Creedmoor that I haven't hunted with yet. The lighter recoil and shoot ability is fantastic. Both will work with the right shot placement.
Great video Hooty. I’m a dyed in the wool 270 man. I love the dress comparisons as well. Thanks.
For normal hunting ranges a 270 has better blastics accuracy I'm not sure because both will shoot good groups
.270Win will always have a most fond place in my arsenal. Have taken many african animals over many seasons of hunting.
I enjoy my 6.5CM, but the .270Win remains top dog loaded with 150gr Federal Fusion.
I'm fond of the 270. Does a good job and ammo isn't so expensive.
Lol, I know the comparison man bun to cowboy boots is funny, I'm personally neither cowboy boots or man bun. I bought the 6.5 creedmoor a couple years ago because it was available. I have now taken a couple hogs and a whitetail with my 6.5. Back in the day I took a couple mule deer with my dad's 270.
Thanks again for this video!!! 270 since 1984 and if it works don't fix it !!! Im sure the 6.5 is fine but if I change it would be for less recoil. 243 or 77
A couple points here…first is that the advantage of the 6.5 is with the heavy, high bc loads like Hornady’s 143 eldx or Nosler’s 142 ablr. Their bc is quite a bit higher than what you used here.
Second, I don’t think the 6.5s purpose is to outperform all of the bigger long action cartridges in the first place. It just has good performance on deer sized game out to ethical hunting ranges, and does it with low recoil and without burning a ton of powder.
I think it’s so popular because people realize that they don’t need to shoot the big boys for most whitetail hunting situations. That being said, I like my 300win mag.
I think the problem is..guys want to say the Creedmoors are so much better than the old 270..and that's not the case
It’s less about drop it’s about wind drift. Long range shooters can easily account for drop wind is much much hard to account for. For hunting I agree the 270 probably has the advantage. The chamber for 270 has a larger margin of error in it so they are usually less accurate than a 6.5 creed.
I'm debating a rifle for my kiddos to get in the woods with me... 6.5 and .270 was the debate and I think I know where to go now thanks!
The trend is heavier bullets in caliber. Longer leads to do this. The 270 been around a long time. Kinda like a B52. Been around a long time, designed well and will be here in the future. Hmmm
Great video again Who Tee Who!
Been shooting a 270 for a long time. Never did see were the 6.5 had any advantage to replace my 270. Ron Spomer did a really good video on this too.
I Have Shot The 270 Cartridge For Over 50 Years! I Refuse To Change! I Reload My Own Cartridges And Load The 130 Grain Hornady CX For Hunting Now!
simple, 6.5 creedmoor is for punching holes in paper at long yards with your buddys, .270 is used by hunters to kill stuff at long yards.
Just to be a voice of dissent: I've never seen a deer or pronghorn hit with any caliber that ended up deader than one shot with a 6.5 CM, I don't know many folks who can shoot well enough under field conditions to notice a few inches less drop at any reasonable hunting distance, and a foot-pound never killed anything. I'm 53, bald, carry a 1911, and wear boot-cut Wranglers and Lowa Zephyr boots...nothing trendy about me, but I prefer the 6.5 over the 270 here in northern Wyoming, and feel whatever you shoot well and have confidence in is the "best" caliber.
Yessir, if you know what you're doing and shoot it well, let it fly.
I have a Remington 700 in 270, and I love it, but it does kick a lot. It shoots good, but I bet I would be more accurate with a rifle that kicks less. My 270 is older, and does not have a bug pad and it kicks a lot, leading to flinches sometimes, especially when standing. I try to shoot it often to practice in order to get rid of the flinch, but I may get a new stick to help with the recoil.
Good points. I don't understand the latest trend that saddles 6.5 cr shooters out to be limp wristed wimps. Hell, I like my 300wby, but would admit that it's more enjoyable to shoot the 243 any day as long as we're not talking elk or larger game. 😊
@@michaellane4003 I know, right? I regularly shoot a 300 WinMag with one of the worst stock designs in history...an old Ruger All Weather! Also 45-70, 458 Win Mag, 44 Mag, and a 454 Casull snubby, and I have spent trigger time behind even bigger (up to 585 Nyati) so not like I can't handle some recoil.
Yes and the next thing you know they'll be calling you a Biden lover because you like 6.5cr. ha!
I love em both but I think of my 6.5 more as a range gun (Ruger Precision sniper rifle) and my 270 as a hunting rifle, although I'm not a hunter. I did go hunting last year with a friend and took my 270 with my Sig Sierra 6 BDX scope and range finder
Well point of impact is most important with proper bullet so for proper bullet placement most important with any gun or caliber is the little thing that presses the trigger
270 all day every day
I have them both too. Like to see ya do a video on what cartridge you would recommend for youth hunter love seeing you kids hunt. I know there are a bunch out there are good. I started my son with a 243
I shoot 6.5 , but I'm old school, I shoot 6.5x55. And it's a DEFINATE screamer!
Love it!
Been shooting .270 since I’ve started hunting. Seems to be one of the best all around caliber rifles
I have a Mossberg ATR100 270 and I use the Hornady Whitetail 140gr for deer. Great video sir. 270 all the way for me. God Bless from Oklahoma
Adam, you just got it backwards for me. I love my 6.5 Creedmore, and I wear cowboy boots and a hat everyday everywhere I go, and I have been carrying a 1911 .45 acp, since I was a deputy in the mid 1970’s. lol 😂
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I don’t have either. There will be no trading here. I’ll stick with my 30-06 and 308. 😀👍👍
You and Ron both just persuaded me,I need a .270 just to have more common rounds,I don’t see a western hunt in my future just Kentucky and Tennessee
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great content. Myself I think the 6ARC doesn't get enough recognition, but I do like a 270, and personally I think I would take it over 6.5CM, which I think is way overrated especially for a deer cartridge that has been proven year after year..
I was thinking about getting a 6.5. I guess I will stick with my 270. Could you do 270 & 308?
That’s the manufacture trying to sell new products. Trying to make it sound better than the old stuff that everyone has already
270 Old school for me. Never let me down!!
Great video. I don't think the differences are big enough to make someone switch. I also think your cuff analysis was right on...down to the man-bunn.
If you are splitting hairs, long range target shoot with one, and hunt with the other. Either is good though.
I agree generally. The big difference is recoil for me. The 6.5 is very gentle, even compared to the 270. Terminal performance and trajectory wise, the 270 wins hands down.
An aside, but take a look at 270win v. 6.5prc. Almost twins. You don’t need a fancy new man bun PRC, just stick with the good old 270win.
@@phild9813 I have .270. I buzz my hair, and like pants that let the boys do their thing.
(Deep manly voice) I got .270, never really been interested in them funny fandangled cartridges.
I consider myself an old caliber hold out, am 58 years old, wear chukka boots most of the time, and wear flannel shirts whenever practical. I have the 270, 30-06, 243, 308, 223, 7.62x39, 204 Ruger, 7mm-08; and even a 30-30 and 357 lever guns. My 270’s are still my go to guns for deer and elk. But I got to tell you, three years ago I broke down and bought a 6.5 cm Remington 700 Varmint, put it in an MDT stock, lightened the trigger, Leupold base and rings, and Vortex Viper 6-20x scope. It is an amazing tack driver and the recoil is very minimal. It’s a dream to shoot.
I think some of what is missed is the 6.5 is a short action cartridge with 25 percent less powder capacity yet it is still hanging with the 270 with similar weight bullets. If energy is the measure, 1500 ft lbs for elk and 1000 for deer, your chart makes it look like a wash between the two. Now the 6.5 has less recoil, faster twist, a better Sami chamber design for accuracy, and a shorter/lighter rifle. Unless you want just pure velocity (copper bullets) I don't really see 270 as better. Lastly, do 6.5 and 7 PRC vs 270 too. I think those will be interesting.
I like the 270 Winchester 130 grain core lokt. That's I use in Remington 270 Winchester and I never had chase my deer.
They dropped right there.
I got both lol….love both . Generally I use 130 in my 270 and using 143 this year for my 6.5
This is the second video like this I have seen, thank you. The 6.5 creedmoor is good but way to over hyped
I shoot the Norma Whitetail 270 in my old Browning A-bolt medallion.
.270 is my favorite!
I have both calibers but I will stick with my 270. I hand load all my ammunition so I control every aspect of the performance.
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I have 2 6.5 cm and I'm 50yo and wear cowboy boots with no hair and wrangler jeans , so 6.5 is not just for hipsters. The reason I bought these one bolt and one ar10 is mainly for hogs and yotes , also have 308 and 300 win mag in ar10 can't stand a 270 I've had them all and after having shoulder surgery and 4 stints in my heart just not able to shoot heavy recoil rifles.
That makes sense because the 270 has the same case as a 30-06 except choke down to 27 calibers. I never cared to much for the 270 because the 30-06 had so many more factory bullet weights available Fromm 55 grain 22 cal with a sabot to a 220 grain round nose for over a decade it was the fastest factory loaded cartridge in the world at 4011 ft. per second if my memories serve me right . 6.5 Creemore uses less powder and shoots a smaller diameter bullet it makes sense it can almost keep up with the 270. I do own a 6.5 CM and enjoy shooting it but have not taken any deer with it because I can't hunt any more. Another GREAT video my friend.
270 is really a great all around choice , not question
.270 inches is 6.9 mm, so slight difference to 6.5. Given the same/similar bullet diameter, if you have same/similar muzzle velocity and bullet weight then the main remaining variable is aerodynamics of the bullet. Barrel length and powder charge would impact the muzzle velocity. Muzzle velocity and bullet weight determine available energy which is degraded by drag along the bullet path. Another difference, possibly important to some bolt-action rifle shooters, is the shorter bolt throw for the shorter 6.5 cartridge compared to 270.
btw, the boat-tail Spitzer bullet was a very important development for improved accuracy and range in The Great War.
I have several 270’s and a couple of 6.5CM. I will say this, my savage 110 in 270 win is tack driver accurate BUT wow does that muzzle flip/rise! Maybe I need to get a custom laminate heavier stock for it. It’s an older wood stock with rubber butt pad. Probably early 1990s. But is still beautiful.
I never own a 270 but I have a 6.5 Creedmoor and two 308s and I only use my 6.5 Creedmoor for hunting.
Have both.. If I have to put African antelope on the table.. The 270 win. Is the Winner!
Forgot to mention. Greetings from Namibia
First off Buddy my first deer was with a 270 & was my go to for a long time. obviously the 270 is a great cartridge. Love it. However, chief with a 130 gr swift sorroco. In a creedmoore working your way through accuracy nodes. & getting close to max capacity. With reloader 17 in a 24 inch barrel I push a 130 gr pill 3000- 3050 fps @ the muzzle. In a short action platform that’s not bad. Actually that’s what you’ll find in most factory loading in a 270. Just thought id share. I like them all for what they are. & it’s pretty cool that we have so much to choose from. Having said that I’ve never worked up a load for a 270. Enjoy your content especially the big bore stuff you use to put out.
Keep in mind the 270 has been detuned and can be hand loaded into magnum territory. Creedmoor kids never mention that. 270win. For the win!!!
.270 all day long for me!
Love the .270 ...i love your comparison on who shoots the 6.5 man bun...love the videos.