Mill Finally Got A Huge Power Boost | Timeless
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 เม.ย. 2024
- Archive Trap and Surgical Extraction is finally on Arena....MILL IS NOW
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I cracked up so hard when that 200+ card deck also had a Gaea's Blessing xD
I played against a 200 card deck on arena that scooped after I unmoored ego'd their gaea's
Every deck that is over 200 cards has Gaea’s just so they hope they run into mill
@@clintcook8691 My own 240 card lists do not have Gea's Blessing. I doubt that I need them against mill when my list is already four times the standard size :p
I do think that you are right though. Players that play Gaea's *on top* of such a deck size are likely big mill dislikers.
@@smegmalasagna okay genuinely, why the 200+ card singleton decks everywhere? It's all I get paired against in best of ones, it kinda doesn't feel like I'm playing the same format
@@QuietlyHere666 I think that it is because there is no giant repercussion for it in BO1. In BO3 it makes your sideboard meaningless but in BO1 there are a lot of cards that can act as additional copies of certain effects (Like the 2 mana kill spells) and so having a giant deck size doesn't make your deck as bad as you'dd think.
Besides that I think that it's either because players hate mill or they find it funky. (I'm the latter)
Milling out the 116 card deck was hilarious
Edit: the game after that was the final boss
I was watching that and thinking "I wonder if they have ..." when it turned out they did. Laughed out loud at that.
Amusingly, if he had surgical extraction in hand when that happened, it wouldn't happen again :D
230 cards + Gaea's Blessing. Opponent; "Never again." hahaha
For the no-bans all access, I ran Stone Brain specifically for Gaia and Nexus.
What the heck was up with these match-ups?! Really wild. It's like the match maker paired you against every deck that would have an advantage against mill. Please play this again!
Matchmaker is rigged to an extent. Don't let the Reddit nerds tell you otherwise.
Probally bots doing quests
Or crim edited the video to show you the more interesting games...
@@xinvl shh, can't be reasonable. It's gotta be a weird conspiracy theory for some reason. Lol
@@-Karnage I had about 5 people on reddit tell me the matchmaker isn't rigged in ranked because "woTc sAiD iT wAsN't". Long time viewers know this is not the opponents you see when playing non-mill decks in timeless.
Crim didnt make this deck to mill, he made it to test the match making conspiracy theories
18:40 - I didn't know battle of wits was on arena
- "who hurt you to play a 200+ cards deck?"
- Someone like you, not anymore!
*adds Gaea's Blessing to the pile 🤣🤣🤣
Gotta have that surgical extraction in hand for when you mill the Gaea's Blessing, haha. These thicc decks today XD
bro it's been 40 minutes since the upload and I've already run into this three times lmao
This has to be the most realistic MTGGodfish video in ages.
That guy with the 200+ card deck was just waiting for you fervently with his anti-mill deck. That man was praying for you Crim 😂😂😂
I swear everytime I play my mill deck I always go against 100+ card decks, but the moment I seitch to a different deck I only get 60 card decks again
The clicking is horrible, but infinite Soul Cauldron into Outrageous Robbery is super sweet when you mill their 200 card pile.
@@Red_Mag3 my favorite is Bruvac + Terisian Mindbreaker, but I do really enjoy that as well
Maybe standard mill deck next time??
Bruh THREE Coco's in hand?? lmaoooo
I didn't know there's a "double your opponents deck size" queue.
_"You know, opponent, if you had 230 cards, this never would've happened to you."_ 🤣
1:13 c'mon, "push the pilgrim" was right there and you missed it
You cant convince me they dont skew matchmaking so certain decks play each other. Brawl is a casual format but omg my mill deck plays so many graveyard decks and then when i switch i get zero
The professor can make Crim play a green deck, but he can't take the urge to mill and control out of Crim.
I recently made an Oathbreaker Mill Deck with the Phyrexian Jace and Tashas Hideous Laughter - love it❤
Oathbreaker is a format I kinda wish had gotten more popularity, although I remember when it started out the ban list needed a lot of work. Hope it's doing better now!
I've been waiting for this video ever since you talked about archive trap on the podcasr
I think this was the most entertaining MTG content I have ever seen. THe rage quit to the Gaes's Binding made me fall to the floor.
That was the strangest matchups I have ever seen on this channel. That almost felt like watching Mono Black Magic, but none of those triple digit decks were also life gain decks.
1:09 You went from "Bolt the bird" to "Ice the Pilgrim" when playing Fatal Push?? "Push the Pilgrim" was *right* there!
I love how Crim plays the mill deck and just runs into everyone bringing their battle of wits decks
That 200+ card Andy has definitely lost too many games to mill lmao.
I’ve been grinding mill on the ladder too and it’s crazy how many decks play like 100-250 cards. I’d say like 50% of my games op is playing well over 60 cards
I’ve been looking forward to this!
I like how the 100+ decks weren’t playing Yorion or Lutri, crazy.
This is why I don’t play mill on arena is because I’m only ever matched against people that have massive deck sizes.
Crim, did you forget Arena chooses your opponents depending on your own card pool? If you play a mill strategy, of course most of your opponents will have anti mill strategies in their main deck. I play a thief deck in Brawl, and I most of my opponents have a hexproof/ward strategies in their main deck too.
Guys, remember. WotC don't fix the matchmaker in ranked, it's totally random! *coughing fit*
Crim against affinity why didn’t you use field of ruin to force the search, archive trap and then tashas? Or field, tasha, archive trap?
Watching Mill go up against these hundred plus cards decks makes me believe in the Arena matchups being rigged, lol.
*Thanks for the Content!*
What I think happened in that person's head:
"Why are you playing 125 cards singleton in timeless?"
"Brawl wants me to have only 100 cards and I didn't manage to cut anything "
YESSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
A missed opportunity to 'push the pilgrim' tho loll
Mil is my fav deck to play. Mill is back on the table :)
1:12 Bolt the bird, push the pilgrim
Been waiting for this one
Mfw I travel back in time to get first comment but some weirdo with a 187 letter long name beat me to it. Regards from the year 2787.
Fantastic, love me some Mill and I actually have some Alcohol to enjoy this even more with randomly so "win" "win" for me tonight then.
why does the mill deck always run into so much anti-mill tech?
@9:36 could you have field of ruin opennent? And if he searches for the land you can archive trap him?
no, it only hits nonbasics
They had hexproof and archive targets
Oof :(
Dang I thought the same thing. They DOUBLE blocked that. Wow.
the opponent activated their trap card :)
Against affinity why didnt you just field + archive trap and then cast hideous laughter? Seems a lot more likely to get there than milling 4 with the enchantment
I would consider adding Stone brain just to remove Gaea's Blessing. Or a leyline of the void.
In response to the Gaea's Blessing he needs to have a Tormod's Crypt or some other similar GY exiling effect handy so they don't get those cards back. Tasha's is good but doesn't exile the existing cards that are already in the GY so no help there unfortunately
You beat white leyline with the crab and thassas's laughter, cards that mill but don't target :)
Edit: oh yeah, the orb mills without targeting the opponent. nice
230+ card deck + Gaea's Blessing. What a chad.
Getting matched up with a 100 card and then 200 card deck was so fucking funny holy shit
Finally Timeless is back on menu!
Thanks Crim, now I can point to this video when some idiot tells me the matchmaker isn't rigged.
i think this has to be crims greatest mill video yet
I’m entirely certain Arena puts you against overloaded decks when you play mill. I always get 100+ card decks on opponents when I play mill, and only then.
I swear the match-maker and shuffler is at least a bit rigged. Every single time i play my other decks, i get 60 cards decks match up, but EVERY TIME i bust out my mill deck, suddenly everyone got those 250 piles of junk that somehow top deck the best responses against my deck
But see when you play mill you look at the opponents decks
When you aren't playing mill you rarely do that. For all you know you encounter 200 card decks regularly
@@DimT670 i always check decks each game because most player with decks more than 60 cards are not really good. I can change my playstyle with that in mind
@@DimT670 Normally 200+ decks are pretty distinct from the 60 cards ones. There's a lack of synergy and you don't see as many multiples on the field. Moreover, a good portion of 60 card decks fit a certain archetype to the point that you can predict their plays based on how much mana they have. It might be that people don't look at card count, but usually it's pretty noticeable when someone is playing an oversized deck.
@@OddMidnight Also, visually in arena, 250 cards are pretty noticeable on the top right corner. Like it almost goes "out of the screen"
Did I count that right? 4/6 had over 60 cards? Rough day to be mill.
Playing this deck minus the surgicals so far 8 out of 10 wins. Mills good again!!
19:34 Why scoop to Gaea's Blessing?! You have Surgical Extraction in your deck.
Your vote is to just hope they hard cast it?
Love me a good surgical extraction
If we got crypt incursion that'd be awesome
Cooking with Crim
a whole episode and not one crowd surf the karn wtf
Only Crim could manage to find the two people on the timeless ladder trying to play EDH when playing mill. What the heck were those games? 😂
Everyone is too scared of the mill decks.
Dude has 200 card deck and Gaea's blessing just in case.
Bolt the Birds, Push the Pilgrim, Eliminate the Elves, Destroy the Druids.
Wishclaw + Archive Trap
Portable Hole
Black as your soul
I'd rather die than give you control
I'm passing this ear worm on to all of you
to be fair, you probably don't want a world where Mill is actually good
Ah yes, Jace + Breach isn't broken at all.
Bolt the Bird
Push the Pilgrim
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I really do think mill should be strong. Deck size would be a relevant parameter to consider instead of the past 30 year meta of "all decks over 60 cards are strictly worse than their 60-card counterpart." More relevant choices (ie do you go for the efficient 60 loadout and leave yourself susceptible to mill, or play it safe and go 80?) leads to more play diversity.
WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE LADDER RIGHT NOW?
WHO HURT THESE PEOPLE
As a fellow mill player, I feel your pain. Bo3 is even worse because of people that run a single Gaea's Blessing in their sideboard regardless of color...
Only the saltiest of timmies would play a 200 card deck with gaes blessing, but I respect the dedication to playing a horrible deck with exactly 1 good match up.
Play more mill :)
But MTG Arena, why does my opponent get TWO EDH decks?
116 deck made for great content lol
Say to me that arena is not rigged.
What are the odds of playing twice against more than 100 cards while playing mill.
Only crim would come up against the anti mill 200 card deck 😂😂 f in the chat
(fatal) Push the Pilgrim
It makes me happy that mill still sucks even with the new cards
the matches against the 116 cards and 200+ cards deck were not random. MTGA is using analysis machine learning tools to match you up against deck that are strong against yours.
So after a few matches, it saw that your deck "shoulddo worse" against big fat deck with many cards.
You're not the first to experience that.
LOL, 200+ cards
If you ever wonder that arena's matchmaker is rigged, refer to this video
People playing decks like Battle of wits is on arena
It feels like every other person I play against on arena is playing every card they own in one deck.
Why use brain cells to learn how to build a deck when you can just spend 1500$ on mythical and play all of them in one deck?
Lol that over 200 card deck match proves that matchmaker is rigged
I feel like someone lost 5+ Matches in a row to mill and was really petty and salty about it.
I cannot possibly understand why you would just not play archive trap right away in the second to last game. You just played mesmeric orb, they aren't going to see that and start playing into mill...
Timeless mill didnt need a boost
I literally never see players with decks above 60 unless safron Olive or Crim is playing mill. It always annoys me because I know those aren't most games but it's so annoying when you want to see how a deck preforms and you literally get paired up with the handful of decks that make that not possible. oh well what can ya do.
I bloody hate mill decks! The epitome of blue control
I hate the monopoly man, why does the principal from Archie AND Recess still hold sway even here, universes beyond has gone too far
I swear matchmaking (even ranked) is rigged. They are planning if you will win or lose before the match, probably to satisfy some kind of retention algorithm and exploit human psychology.
When I take an anti red deck or target something specific in the meta, I go from seeing it every 7 out of 10 games to 1 out of 10.
Holy heavens. Am I first?
Mayhaps
This video proves that MTG Arena pairing is rigged AF. No way in hell this is real.
Tell me again how match making isn't rigged.
Great, mill is one of the most annoying deck strategies.
Algorithm is reason why i stop play Magic after 20 years.👎