I went with my parents, who are in early 80's, to Cavender Toyota in San Antonio to buy a 2023 Tacoma V6 in December 2023. It was no pressure, kind salesman, considerate, and they let them pay for the vehicle in cash.
I've never met anyone that had a positive dealership experience. An app is better. Who needs to yap with someone that has an eye on your wallet the entire time?
In the past 3 years have bought 4 vehicles...2 via direct to consumer model and 2 via dealership model. Direct to consumer is better on the purchase side of the equation...price is clear, options are clear, buy online and arrange the pick up date / time. Dealership model just takes too long...too bureaucratic...like the government it screams of inefficiency. In terms of relationship, I would sooner invest in finding a good mechanic and having that relationship with them directly...would support the "right to repair" legislation 100%.
This is the way. Let’s not forget that the direct to consumer model reduces waste (unsold cars sitting on lots around the country) and pricing reflects that efficiency
Absolutely direct to consumer. The big hurdle is how you provide warranty and maintenance service. My solution would be manufacturers set-up "Certified Car Care" centers They could even have their own ASE schools. They could buy existing dealer service centers or build their own. The only downside is what to do with all the unemployable non mechanics at the dealerships. Hard to find jobs for people with no skills other than stealing money.
Dealerships are a necessary evil. However, what should be illegal is this Toyota port-installed garbage when a vehicle does not go through a port. Toyota builds vehicles in a lot of places. Some are in Kentucky, Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas. These cars and trucks do not come on a ship and do not go through a port. Yet, the GST port for Toyota forces add-ons on EVERY Toyota that does not go through one. People need to be arrested who commit theft and this is open theft. What say you on that?
Dealerships use to provide jobs. Do I like them? Nope … but if it helps the economy? I’m in my 70’s and have seen dealerships make & break communities.
I think dealerships need to be held to the same competitive standards as other companies. When they face the challenges of lower prices and direct to consumer options, they need to learn to adapt their model to become more competitive and then everyone can win with getting rid of either one. I feel that protecting dealerships with laws allows them to become complacent because they are guaranteed part of the market and this is unfair. Personally, I don’t like dealerships and prefer to know what the bottom line is for whatever product I’m looking at instead of the run around so that a company can squeeze as much profit as they can from me. Let alone making people feel the false sense of having a “good deal” on a product they couldn’t afford in the first place even with whatever discounts they can negotiate.
A guy at my church quit his job as a dealership car salesman because of what they were trying to get him to do to potential buyers......that's all I needed to know to confirm what I already strongly suspected.
I would be completely fine with buying direct from the manufacturer. Let major cities have vehicle outposts where people can test drive the vehicle they are interested in and then complete their purchases online. Way less overhead and more profits direct to the manufacturer.
I think there should be a direct-to-consumer option and then let the market decide whether a brick and mortar dealership with salespeople can compete. Most people will choose the option that costs less, at least for a new vehicle.
Yeah, like in most stores these days (for now, anyway)... you can use self-checkout OR a human at a cash register. Should be the same at dealerships, I think... Don't wanna negotiate and go through all that other stuff? Fine, go with the "vending machine" option. But if you want to negotiate or just want to deal with pushy sales people, then go with the traditional option. Whatever choice the customer makes though, I think the dealer they bought from should always help them take care of any issues they have.
The issue with car dealerships is they are regulated and controlled by zip code maps. You cannot have overlaying, competitive dealerships. The auto industry did this to prevent free market sell and the ability for more aggressive negotiations. Then the dealerships slowly all get gobbled up by huge conglomerates who own many of the other dealerships within 100 miles. The industry has protected itself from 'cannibalizing' (their POV) their brands at the expense of consumers.
I truly dislike dealerships. Been going to them enough times to finally just call it quits, pay what I have or god forbid my fortune goes sour and it gets repossessed. If that happens, I’ll just save cash and get a 4th gen 4Runner and build it how I like and also a 2006 Camry with the 4 banger. Done lol if not, maybe just get a late Gen Lexus GS.
Just my two cents worth, maybe it’s better to have service centers instead of dealerships. Take the sales side out of the equation. Do the sales side online and take possession of the vehicle at the service center. The sales side at a dealership, is where everything gets corrupted.
The beauty of the dealership model is that there are choices in the same brand. There are ok dealers, terrible dealers and fantastic dealers. I would never buy from a direct from manufacturer model. More aspects of our life are in less hands, I don’t want to encourage that.
New subscriber here and appreciate your videos young man, they are very informative. Ok buckle your seatbelt. At 64 I've purchased my share of new AND preowned from dealerships and in all those transactions only one stands out as feeling like I was treated fairly, and the ONLY reason for that was my neighbor across the street was the parts manager at the dealership, got with the sales manager and requested he take care of me personally. Yes I partly blame myself for poor negotiating skills but why should anyone have to? It's ridiculous. 🤷 As far as I'm concerned, car salesmen are people that couldn't secure a REAL job because they lack the skills to do so.....that they are bottom of the barrel doesn't quite do it justice.
Honestly, dealerships stink, in my 6 decades I never found a decent one. I always felt people and business/market conditions would change the way we buy cars. It started a few years back, and you can buy a car now without stepping into a dealership. Since dealerships make the majority of their $$ via the repair shops, that is what they should transition to "Guaranteed Manufacture" service providers. Dealerships should only have one "demo" of each vehicle of the manufacture lineup to test. Cut out the dealerships on the sales side, and that would be a huge % CHANGE to the MSRP !
I feel the "dealership" itself should exist, but remove the sales and finance functions. Just porters and service. You can perform sales and finance functions from your home via an online portal, including the trade-in value of your current vehicle. The "negotiation" isn't necessary if the manufacturers set the price like any other consumer good we buy today, you want this make and model with these features? Here's your price...period, full stop (including the fees the manufacturers establish with these locations to be their storefront). Boat dealerships work this way now, no reason cars couldn't work the same way.
Direct to consumer is the future, dealerships need laws and lobbyists to stay in business. Yeah there is your argument for the relationship, but Toyota would still need service and delivery center personnel and perhaps they would make a salary as opposed to a commission to how much extra he or she got you to buy. I say send car dealers to the 9th circle of hell where they belong. They can stay there with politicians too.
If I’m spending that kind of money on a vehicle. I am driving it before I will buy it. So many vehicles are assembled bad. Not a fan of buying something that will need repairing right away. I’ll buy the vehicle I test drive.
As I’ve commented before Servco Toyota here on Oahu and Kauai have never marked up their cars and depending on what Salesman you get you can get a discount off MSRP. I bought a Tesla Model Y and the price changed so I got the cheaper price. When I picked up my car they barely went over the functions. I used it for Uber and Lyft, so the first time I picked up a passenger I wanted to turn on my hazards. I couldn’t find the switch. I had to call my friend that had a Model Y Performance where it was. He told me it’s on the roof between the map lights. I think that is something they should tell drivers at delivery. My A/C broke 22 days after I picked it up for the first of three times. Ended up Lemon Law’ing it in September of that same year (2023), Tesla bought it back but it took a year to get it out of my name and I am still trying to get refunded the second year $103 connectivity charge when I don’t own it anymore. Much rather deal with a dealership, Servco anyway. I am now a proud owner of a 2023 Toyota Tacoma Access Cab TRD Off Road 4x4 that I bought in Jan of 2024.
Dang I didn’t realize you had gone through all that. Sorry to hear man. Such a headache…. And dealerships are a necessary evil to some degree. And good, honest ones exist.. just have to look harder these days.
There are actually good dealerships out there. Maybe they're rare, but they exist. I had a very good experience last year at (don't laugh) a CDJR dealership. No add-ons, no high pressure tactics, none of that bullshit.
I hate car dealerships so much, I can't stand working with salesmen and their tactics and fees and blah blah blah. There's no value in dealerships, none. Having gone through the Tesla buying process, I would welcome other manufacturers embracing this style. There's still a personal touch with Tesla, when you pick it up, there's staff there that are super helpful and take you through the vehicle and show you how to do everything. No gimmicks, no talking about finances... you're just done.
Hope you and the fam are doing well. At one point you were planning to open a dealership, right? Wouldn’t that be suggesting you were going to be a “needless middleman”? Good dealerships do bring value and I am happy to give those folks my business.
I can’t go to a Toyota dealership and try out a manual Tacoma. I can’t go to a Ford dealership and try a manual Bronco. I can’t try the 4 door bronco manual back to back with a 2 door. I can’t check out how the different trims perform to decide which one I should buy. If they don’t need to stock different options for me to try, why not just buy it blind off the website? I’m in the boonies and I don’t know if things are this way everywhere, but I think I should know what I’m buying before I order it the way I want it. What happened to test drives?
Dealerships have a role but there's needs to be more limitations set by the manufacturer and oversight by the government. These unscrupulous people literally get away with taking advantage of ignorant consumers.
@ it’s a sweet rig, just not for me. I have too much OCD for the countless paint imperfections, dings and orange peel. Figured I’d unload it while I could get what I paid for it. Doing so essentially meant selling my sequoia TRD pro for $80K if that makes sense. When it was only worth $71K.
My experience with the jeep dealer has been similar to yours with the Toyota dealer. They have taken care of me and even check in on if everything is satisfactory. What I don’t get is why you bought that beautiful fathom blue 392 and supported that choice then immediately back tracked on it and started shit talking? How confusing
Haha I never spoke highly of Jeep. I loved that 392, just not worth the price tag. I appreciated getting it because it allowed me to essentially sell my sequoia for $80K. Since I sold the wrangler for what I paid for it.
Dealerships should go the way of the Dodo bird. The manufacturers should just have delivery/warranty/service centers. The old dealership business model is DECADES OLD and had a purpose then. NOW---it's games and bravo sierra from them on everything car related.
The only positive thing about having a dealership is the negotiability we have as customers and the likelihood of more options on the lot to choose from.
I mean Telsa has proven that no dealerships will be insanely bad for the mobliy industry as the only "positive" is every pays the same... But even in tesla land that isn't true as the ytax cradit and the referral program is a thing. And Tesla constantly changes prices randomly and seemly every month distpte their mdoels bearly changing from when they become avable... Not to mention different economic sitions of different people and local taxs and discounts... And leasing which is inpossible to make it so everrfy pays the same price.... Which price fixing is only a good idea when it kills actual scalping that damages society like scalping emgncy supplies before and during an emergency hince why Florida has anti scalping laws despite hbeing a very liberal(IE free as the founding father inteneed) state... As Hurricnae season is very much a thing and we have tax free hurricane prepairedness season so people can prepair and not wortthy about what little sales tax we do have.... So yeah that is even if Telsa was given you the best price iut can.... It very much isn't as they have one of the highest profit margins on each cvar then the vasy majority of products.... I'm pretty sure Telsa are in the same profit margin catgory quick serve soda which is the king and telsa has more profit margin then Gucci as Tesla has more in profit margin on it's cheapest car then cgucci has as a MSRP.... Which if telsa had dealships and if telsa sold them cars at the normal rates of any new car dealer.... Like easly Telsa would be discounted at least $10k of the wensite making them the most discounted model fleet of any car maker in history... But since they don't have dealships and live off hype alone they don't need to lower their prices to the market... Which is much lower then any discouhnt Telsa has ever put on a car new or used... As shown my the recent market adjustment returning the BEV market to pre Model S levels... Aka I pretty sure E bikes are hotter right now for an actual reason other then Musk hype.... So yeah if evey new car was bought straight from the factory the car market would mirror telsa alot.... And no one outside of the musk cult wants that and would kill the new car industry....
@@spellet63 Yeah, I saw the video where he traded in the Sequoia, got $80k for it and so much off on the Jeep and came to about $82k for the Jeep. But if I'm paying that much for a vehicle, a full walk around and inspection are first and foremost, let alone a test drive. If it's build quality, that should've been noticed on a walk around. What kind of damage did it have? And why wasn't that noticed? Just doesn't add up for me.
A fair and honest dealership is priceless, if you can find one.
They're becoming a relic and almost extinct.
I went with my parents, who are in early 80's, to Cavender Toyota in San Antonio to buy a 2023 Tacoma V6 in December 2023. It was no pressure, kind salesman, considerate, and they let them pay for the vehicle in cash.
I've never met anyone that had a positive dealership experience. An app is better. Who needs to yap with someone that has an eye on your wallet the entire time?
"Thank you for calling Dominos, this is Jeff. How can I help?" - Definitely not Jeff
lol 😆
Dealership and Realtors stay away from them for all cost
IMO purchasing a home is FAR less stressful. purchasing a vehicle?....
I hate it like poison.
In the past 3 years have bought 4 vehicles...2 via direct to consumer model and 2 via dealership model.
Direct to consumer is better on the purchase side of the equation...price is clear, options are clear, buy online and arrange the pick up date / time. Dealership model just takes too long...too bureaucratic...like the government it screams of inefficiency. In terms of relationship, I would sooner invest in finding a good mechanic and having that relationship with them directly...would support the "right to repair" legislation 100%.
This is the way. Let’s not forget that the direct to consumer model reduces waste (unsold cars sitting on lots around the country) and pricing reflects that efficiency
@@qbf4128 100% agree...direct to consumer allows OEMs to fix the rate of production closer to the rate of sales + allows for improved logistics.
Absolutely direct to consumer. The big hurdle is how you provide warranty and maintenance service. My solution would be manufacturers set-up "Certified Car Care" centers They could even have their own ASE schools. They could buy existing dealer service centers or build their own. The only downside is what to do with all the unemployable non mechanics at the dealerships. Hard to find jobs for people with no skills other than stealing money.
dealerships should be optional. right now they are mandated by dumb laws because congress thinks a car is too complex for you to buy in your own
Dealerships are a necessary evil. However, what should be illegal is this Toyota port-installed garbage when a vehicle does not go through a port. Toyota builds vehicles in a lot of places. Some are in Kentucky, Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas. These cars and trucks do not come on a ship and do not go through a port. Yet, the GST port for Toyota forces add-ons on EVERY Toyota that does not go through one. People need to be arrested who commit theft and this is open theft. What say you on that?
I’m cool with arresting them lol
Dealerships use to provide jobs. Do I like them? Nope … but if it helps the economy? I’m in my 70’s and have seen dealerships make & break communities.
I think dealerships need to be held to the same competitive standards as other companies. When they face the challenges of lower prices and direct to consumer options, they need to learn to adapt their model to become more competitive and then everyone can win with getting rid of either one. I feel that protecting dealerships with laws allows them to become complacent because they are guaranteed part of the market and this is unfair. Personally, I don’t like dealerships and prefer to know what the bottom line is for whatever product I’m looking at instead of the run around so that a company can squeeze as much profit as they can from me. Let alone making people feel the false sense of having a “good deal” on a product they couldn’t afford in the first place even with whatever discounts they can negotiate.
A guy at my church quit his job as a dealership car salesman because of what they were trying to get him to do to potential buyers......that's all I needed to know to confirm what I already strongly suspected.
Toyota of Ann Arbor - One year free maintenance = 2 oil changes. Great for anyone who doesn't actually put on miles.
I would be completely fine with buying direct from the manufacturer. Let major cities have vehicle outposts where people can test drive the vehicle they are interested in and then complete their purchases online. Way less overhead and more profits direct to the manufacturer.
I think there should be a direct-to-consumer option and then let the market decide whether a brick and mortar dealership with salespeople can compete. Most people will choose the option that costs less, at least for a new vehicle.
Yeah, like in most stores these days (for now, anyway)... you can use self-checkout OR a human at a cash register. Should be the same at dealerships, I think... Don't wanna negotiate and go through all that other stuff? Fine, go with the "vending machine" option. But if you want to negotiate or just want to deal with pushy sales people, then go with the traditional option. Whatever choice the customer makes though, I think the dealer they bought from should always help them take care of any issues they have.
The issue with car dealerships is they are regulated and controlled by zip code maps. You cannot have overlaying, competitive dealerships.
The auto industry did this to prevent free market sell and the ability for more aggressive negotiations. Then the dealerships slowly all get gobbled up by huge conglomerates who own many of the other dealerships within 100 miles. The industry has protected itself from 'cannibalizing' (their POV) their brands at the expense of consumers.
I truly dislike dealerships. Been going to them enough times to finally just call it quits, pay what I have or god forbid my fortune goes sour and it gets repossessed. If that happens, I’ll just save cash and get a 4th gen 4Runner and build it how I like and also a 2006 Camry with the 4 banger. Done lol if not, maybe just get a late Gen Lexus GS.
“Stealership” !? Theres a reason why they are called that. Ide gladly trade in all dealerships to never be bent over
Just my two cents worth, maybe it’s better to have service centers instead of dealerships. Take the sales side out of the equation. Do the sales side online and take possession of the vehicle at the service center. The sales side at a dealership, is where everything gets corrupted.
The beauty of the dealership model is that there are choices in the same brand. There are ok dealers, terrible dealers and fantastic dealers. I would never buy from a direct from manufacturer model. More aspects of our life are in less hands, I don’t want to encourage that.
@@Glasscitycarnerd well said. Couldn’t agree more… and good, honest dealers are out there 👌
New subscriber here and appreciate your videos young man, they are very informative.
Ok buckle your seatbelt.
At 64 I've purchased my share of new AND preowned from dealerships and in all those transactions only one stands out as feeling like I was treated fairly, and the ONLY reason for that was my neighbor across the street was the parts manager at the dealership, got with the sales manager and requested he take care of me personally.
Yes I partly blame myself for poor negotiating skills but why should anyone have to? It's ridiculous. 🤷
As far as I'm concerned, car salesmen are people that couldn't secure a REAL job because they lack the skills to do so.....that they are bottom of the barrel doesn't quite do it justice.
Bro has a temp tag vehicle in the driveway at ALL times.
Honestly, dealerships stink, in my 6 decades I never found a decent one. I always felt people and business/market conditions would change the way we buy cars. It started a few years back, and you can buy a car now without stepping into a dealership. Since dealerships make the majority of their $$ via the repair shops, that is what they should transition to "Guaranteed Manufacture" service providers. Dealerships should only have one "demo" of each vehicle of the manufacture lineup to test. Cut out the dealerships on the sales side, and that would be a huge % CHANGE to the MSRP !
I feel the "dealership" itself should exist, but remove the sales and finance functions. Just porters and service. You can perform sales and finance functions from your home via an online portal, including the trade-in value of your current vehicle. The "negotiation" isn't necessary if the manufacturers set the price like any other consumer good we buy today, you want this make and model with these features? Here's your price...period, full stop (including the fees the manufacturers establish with these locations to be their storefront). Boat dealerships work this way now, no reason cars couldn't work the same way.
Seriously do people still buy cars from dealers? They will rip you off without mercy for years
Direct to consumer is the future, dealerships need laws and lobbyists to stay in business. Yeah there is your argument for the relationship, but Toyota would still need service and delivery center personnel and perhaps they would make a salary as opposed to a commission to how much extra he or she got you to buy.
I say send car dealers to the 9th circle of hell where they belong. They can stay there with politicians too.
If they don’t exist how would you spend all your time?
If I’m spending that kind of money on a vehicle. I am driving it before I will buy it. So many vehicles are assembled bad. Not a fan of buying something that will need repairing right away. I’ll buy the vehicle I test drive.
Tried to buy a vehicle. Same make and model at two different dealers but one quoted 5k less than the other
I can’t stand car salesman. I currently don’t own a car and don’t plan to anytime soon.
As I’ve commented before Servco Toyota here on Oahu and Kauai have never marked up their cars and depending on what Salesman you get you can get a discount off MSRP.
I bought a Tesla Model Y and the price changed so I got the cheaper price. When I picked up my car they barely went over the functions. I used it for Uber and Lyft, so the first time I picked up a passenger I wanted to turn on my hazards. I couldn’t find the switch. I had to call my friend that had a Model Y Performance where it was. He told me it’s on the roof between the map lights. I think that is something they should tell drivers at delivery. My A/C broke 22 days after I picked it up for the first of three times. Ended up Lemon Law’ing it in September of that same year (2023), Tesla bought it back but it took a year to get it out of my name and I am still trying to get refunded the second year $103 connectivity charge when I don’t own it anymore.
Much rather deal with a dealership, Servco anyway. I am now a proud owner of a 2023 Toyota Tacoma Access Cab TRD Off Road 4x4 that I bought in Jan of 2024.
Dang I didn’t realize you had gone through all that. Sorry to hear man. Such a headache…. And dealerships are a necessary evil to some degree. And good, honest ones exist.. just have to look harder these days.
There are actually good dealerships out there. Maybe they're rare, but they exist.
I had a very good experience last year at (don't laugh) a CDJR dealership. No add-ons, no high pressure tactics, none of that bullshit.
I hate car dealerships so much, I can't stand working with salesmen and their tactics and fees and blah blah blah. There's no value in dealerships, none. Having gone through the Tesla buying process, I would welcome other manufacturers embracing this style. There's still a personal touch with Tesla, when you pick it up, there's staff there that are super helpful and take you through the vehicle and show you how to do everything. No gimmicks, no talking about finances... you're just done.
Hope you and the fam are doing well. At one point you were planning to open a dealership, right? Wouldn’t that be suggesting you were going to be a “needless middleman”? Good dealerships do bring value and I am happy to give those folks my business.
Maybe someday, yeah. Not a franchise dealer but a used vehicle dealership. I personally don’t feel the same about used dealers.
I can’t go to a Toyota dealership and try out a manual Tacoma. I can’t go to a Ford dealership and try a manual Bronco. I can’t try the 4 door bronco manual back to back with a 2 door. I can’t check out how the different trims perform to decide which one I should buy. If they don’t need to stock different options for me to try, why not just buy it blind off the website? I’m in the boonies and I don’t know if things are this way everywhere, but I think I should know what I’m buying before I order it the way I want it. What happened to test drives?
Dealerships have a role but there's needs to be more limitations set by the manufacturer and oversight by the government. These unscrupulous people literally get away with taking advantage of ignorant consumers.
i see the wrangler 392 didn't last more than a couple weeks lol
lol yeah only the OG subscribers can handle that… so I won’t be sharing content on this channel for that. Maybe Untamed Reviews.
@UntamedMotors didn't like it?
@ it’s a sweet rig, just not for me. I have too much OCD for the countless paint imperfections, dings and orange peel. Figured I’d unload it while I could get what I paid for it. Doing so essentially meant selling my sequoia TRD pro for $80K if that makes sense. When it was only worth $71K.
@@UntamedMotors I get it.
My experience with the jeep dealer has been similar to yours with the Toyota dealer. They have taken care of me and even check in on if everything is satisfactory.
What I don’t get is why you bought that beautiful fathom blue 392 and supported that choice then immediately back tracked on it and started shit talking? How confusing
Haha I never spoke highly of Jeep. I loved that 392, just not worth the price tag. I appreciated getting it because it allowed me to essentially sell my sequoia for $80K. Since I sold the wrangler for what I paid for it.
I’d get a better deal on buying some dirt
Dealerships should go the way of the Dodo bird. The manufacturers should just have delivery/warranty/service centers. The old dealership business model is DECADES OLD and had a purpose then. NOW---it's games and bravo sierra from them on everything car related.
No more bailouts
Only reason for "stealerships" it deal with recalls.
totally agree to get rid of stealerships
The only positive thing about having a dealership is the negotiability we have as customers and the likelihood of more options on the lot to choose from.
I thought you sold all your toyota pro’s to buy that business. I see a new expedition now what.
They are protected by law in some states. Ask Tesla
How is your new business doing?
@@superseries7007 close end of year. 👍
Did the Business deal fall thru? Seems like you added the Expedition to the family lol, seemingly a new one as well
Haha this is a 2020. Deal didn’t fall through.
@ I applaud you getting the older one compared to the new ones. Arguably better design imo.
@@arhamkhakwani5851Thanks. We really like it, especially the price tag 👌 $39K
@@UntamedMotors39k??? Dang! That’s solid!
I mean Telsa has proven that no dealerships will be insanely bad for the mobliy industry as the only "positive" is every pays the same... But even in tesla land that isn't true as the ytax cradit and the referral program is a thing. And Tesla constantly changes prices randomly and seemly every month distpte their mdoels bearly changing from when they become avable... Not to mention different economic sitions of different people and local taxs and discounts... And leasing which is inpossible to make it so everrfy pays the same price.... Which price fixing is only a good idea when it kills actual scalping that damages society like scalping emgncy supplies before and during an emergency hince why Florida has anti scalping laws despite hbeing a very liberal(IE free as the founding father inteneed) state... As Hurricnae season is very much a thing and we have tax free hurricane prepairedness season so people can prepair and not wortthy about what little sales tax we do have.... So yeah that is even if Telsa was given you the best price iut can.... It very much isn't as they have one of the highest profit margins on each cvar then the vasy majority of products.... I'm pretty sure Telsa are in the same profit margin catgory quick serve soda which is the king and telsa has more profit margin then Gucci as Tesla has more in profit margin on it's cheapest car then cgucci has as a MSRP.... Which if telsa had dealships and if telsa sold them cars at the normal rates of any new car dealer.... Like easly Telsa would be discounted at least $10k of the wensite making them the most discounted model fleet of any car maker in history... But since they don't have dealships and live off hype alone they don't need to lower their prices to the market... Which is much lower then any discouhnt Telsa has ever put on a car new or used... As shown my the recent market adjustment returning the BEV market to pre Model S levels... Aka I pretty sure E bikes are hotter right now for an actual reason other then Musk hype.... So yeah if evey new car was bought straight from the factory the car market would mirror telsa alot.... And no one outside of the musk cult wants that and would kill the new car industry....
There still doing it. I hate dealers. There a rip off
I disagree we don’t need dealers!
Where did the 392 go? Please don't say it's gone. That was one bada$$ Jeep.
He got rid of it
@dominica2765 Damn...buyers remorse?? Or just flipping vehicles?
He said it had some damage, misaligned panels etc. He said he paid over 100,000.
@@spellet63 Yeah, I saw the video where he traded in the Sequoia, got $80k for it and so much off on the Jeep and came to about $82k for the Jeep. But if I'm paying that much for a vehicle, a full walk around and inspection are first and foremost, let alone a test drive. If it's build quality, that should've been noticed on a walk around. What kind of damage did it have? And why wasn't that noticed? Just doesn't add up for me.