Why You Need A Boss FS-6 Dual Foot Switch | Nord Stage Keyboard
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In this video, I provide a review and tutorial on the Boss FS-6 Dual Foot Switch as it relates to the Nord Stage line of keyboards. Discussion topics include switching between programs and use with sustain and rotor pedal options. Additionally, this pedal can switch between live mode and song parts as well!
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Hi sir - Can I used this product connect to my guitar synth GR33?
@@shamneo8353 Yes, you should be able to use this pedal with that unit from what I can see although I don't personally own the GR33, it should work.
@@MyKeysToMusic - Thank you for the info.
@@shamneo8353 Happy to provide it.
Really, the way you explain all these things in detail is incredibly great and amazing. Best tutorials!
@tastenspieler5078 Thank you Tastenspieler!
Thanks again Marc. In a previous video you showed the possibiities of this pedal. I bought one then and it works flawless. Great tutorial again, very well explained. Thumbs up, you rock!
Thank you Cees! Always great to hear from you! 😃
"...that's the way my brain works...." 😅 So our brains work the same way. Thanks for this and all other videos. Very helpful for Stage 3 beginners like me. Greetings from Germany
Good to know our brains are in alignment!! haha. Greetings from So Cal - U.S.A. 🏄 and thanks for saying Hi.
Just got one after seen your video
@goldberglior That's cool Lior. Mine is still going strong.
Great video thank you. I like your PR-40 microphone. Bob Heil makes excellent microphones.
Thanks for watching! Yes, I agree! The PR-40 has been a real workhorse in use for most of my video and training content since 2017. And it's a mic used by the famous "Art Bell" and "Leo Laporte" which are two guys I've listened to over the years.
@@MyKeysToMusic That’s great! I’ve listened to Art Bell and Leo Laporte too. Are you a ham radio operator by any chance? Art Bell, Leo Laporte, and Bob Heil are all ham radio operators. I use my PR-40 microphone with my ham radio setup.
@@vistabarmancave Very interesting! I'm not a ham radio operator. My Dad used to listen to short wave radio when I was growing up so "broadcasting" was a thing in my house and radio was big for him. I think some of that carried over to me where I often found myself listening to talk radio more than music while in the car in the 90s and 2000s. Now (like a lot of us) I work from home and gigs are fewer so I'm not in the car nearly as much. I still listen to podcasts however.
Thanks so much for the video
A pleasure...
Like your Videos very much...is it possible to switch programs without battery like for the FS-7?
Hello @Heiko Haas Unfortunately, the Boss FS-6 requires battery power in every situation. However, a Patreon Patron brought this solution to my attention. They are using an adapter that plugs into the wall and presents a 9 - volt connector. Have a look (affiliate link) : amzn.to/3wqnC5c. (This solution is more "foolproof" - never having to worry about a drained battery in the middle of performance while also saving on the disposable aspects of using batteries). Great question by the way as I meant to put this in the original video. Thanks for watching!
@@MyKeysToMusic Hi Marc, thanks for quick answer and providing that solution. Greetings from Germany!
@@heikohass Happy to help!
Helps me alot
Glad to hear that!
Oh I have a regular brain then! Up is used more often, so it’s the first one. I will only press back if I up by mistake. Nice video!
Thanks DB for sharing this. Nice that we have the option to adjust for both brain types ha ha! 🧠🧐
Thanks for the vid, Marc! Does that work with a Yamaha motif xf7 or modx6 as well?
Hello @Andri Leonardo It "should" work with the footswitch yes. You would connect it to the "Assignable Footswitch" jack located right next to the sustain pedal jack on the back your keyboard. See Page 15 of the manual here: jp.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/1/323561/motifxf_en_om_c0.pdf While we're on the subject, you can check out my review of the Yamaha FC7 expression pedal which is also compatible with your keyboard if you don't already have one: th-cam.com/video/eeJ9b1oGEyY/w-d-xo.html The FC7 however is a "continuous expression" pedal meant to adjust volume and such.
@@MyKeysToMusic Hi Marc, thank you so much for your reply! I appreciate it! Thank you also for the tip on the Yamaha FC7 expression pedal. Live I play with a "keytar" (Alesis Vortex) and a Panda wireless MIDIbeam transmission. I can change the sounds on the Vortex via MIDI, however it is much easier to have a foot switch for live situations and be hands-free when I need to change sounds within a song fast. So the Boss FS-6 Dual Foot Switch seems the perfect solution. I will try it out and let you know. Cheers! 👍
@@andrileonardo Sounds great good luck!
thanks for the informative video. do you know if using the combined A&B output (TRS) that there's no issue in having one pedal set to momentary and another set to latching?
@nicholasmendez8069 I just tested this and it works fine to have one pedal set to latch and the other to momentary. Keep in mind that once you set a pedal to latch, it means pushing twice on the pedal instead of once for most things. I think it depends on what you have it connected to, etc. Is this for a Nord keyboard?
@@MyKeysToMusic awesome! I found another FS-6 demo video that demonstrated what I asked, so it looks like it should work. thank you so much for checking :)
and my usage would not be for a Nord keyboard but for my home recording setup: DAW transport controls via hardware's footswitch port(s)... which apparently only takes TS so my TRS question was for naught! but it's great to know.
@@nicholasmendez8069 Sounds good. Nice research too! You gotta love TH-cam for those pre-purchase questions...
@@MyKeysToMusic yup - sometimes even more informative than their manual, and more responsive than their Customer Support! :p
@@nicholasmendez8069 Power to the people! (and all these fellow musicians) 💪🏽
I totally did not know you could use the Boss FS-6 for both sustain and rotor pedal functions, that’s so useful as I own one to, but I bought a Boss FV-500H foot volume pedal thinking it would work as a control pedal but it doesn’t seam to act like one or am I doing something wrong? I have a Nord Stage 3 88 HA, thanks again for these super Nord Videos.
Hello @DeanoPiano Thanks for your question. What you bought was a traditional volume pedal (more what you'd likely use with a guitar for example) since guitars can't really morph volume in the way that keyboards can using built-in morph controls digitally. Your Boss is fine if you want overall control of the volume and it has a place in your setup perhaps. You can also use it with any kind of instrument that outputs audio to a 1/4 jack. Very useful, but not if you're looking to morph individual items on your Nord Stage 3 keyboard. For that, you want a "control" pedal like the Yamaha FC-7 (Affiliate link: amzn.to/2DxcLy7) found in a video I did here: th-cam.com/video/eeJ9b1oGEyY/w-d-xo.html Getting the FC-7 will allow you to do all kinds of things with your Stage 3 such as:
Drawbar levels, Rotary Speed, Sound level (volume) for all three sounds engines independently, LFO Rate, OSC Ctrl, LFO Amount, Filter Freq, Resonance, Arp Rate, Effect 1 Rate, Effect 1 Amt, Effect 2 Amt, Dely Tempo, Delay Feedback, Delay Mix, EQ Mid/ Filter Freq, Drive, Reverb Dry/Wet. In addition, the pedal can be plugged into the Swell jack to control the overall volume of the keyboard or just the organ engine. Hope that helps clarify things in this regard. Have a look at my pedal videos part 1 and 2 if you want a flyover on all things "pedals" for your NS3. Here is part 1: th-cam.com/video/7I8HV0L2AdA/w-d-xo.html
@@MyKeysToMusic Thank you so very much for this feedback it’s so useful, I will check out your other videos tonight, your channel is by far the best when it comes to understanding the Nord Keyboards, your the best!
@@DeanoPiano I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!
Hi Marc, thanks for your answer. So next to the FV-5 I can use the boss FS-6.
I have another question. Is it normal that the volume with the FV-5 (or FV-7) only works with the organs and not with piano and samples? Thanks a lot and stay health!
John
That's righ John, you can use the Roland pedal along side the Boss. So, on the Electro the volume (control pedal) works with any engine that has "CTRLPED" button selected (below the volume area of each engine). So, if you want to control the piano volume for example, you just need to make sure the Control Pedal light is on. You'll also notice that this setting changes from program to program so keep your eye on this as you switch programs. You may have to "Store" your programs one by one for those that you want to control volume on for various engines. By default not all engines are active with the control pedal - some are and some are not. It's a matter of how they were originally programmed.
@@MyKeysToMusic Thanks Marc, this helped me a lot!
@@jovers70 Glad to hear it!
Can you please do a deep dive into the FCB1010 with the Stage 3? I bought one but I feel like I am not using 100% of its capabilities 🙃
Hello Niko! Well, this one has been on the possible list for a while actually. I think there may be a lot of people in your shoes who may not take advantage of the capabilities. I am concerned that people will have lots of questions and need detailed assistance once we open this pandora's box! 😊 Everything I've read about this unit demands some patience and a bit of tech tinkering to get across the finish line. I'll keep this on the possibilities list, however.
@@MyKeysToMusic Firstly, thank you Marc for your videos. I got an FCB1010 thinking that (as an IT manager) I'd but up to the technical challenge. It's taken me almost all day of scraping the internet in-between meetings but I've worked it out! The trick is not to use midi for the program change, but the "switch 1 & 2" out of the back of the FCB1010 with a 2 1/4" mono to 1 1/4" stereo jack. Making sure you change the FCB1010 switch to momentary, makes any 2 buttons up and down like the boss foot switch. Leaving the rest of the board for other fun midi stuff.
Also make sure you disable midi messages on the 2 buttons you are using.
@@TheRooftops Great tips and setup breakdown! Thanks for sharing this...Glad you like your FCB 1010.
I truly appreciate all the wonderful guidance Marc! I just contributed some $ as a thank you for your help on program up/down details. Jesse Bradman
Thank you so much @Jesse Bradman for your "Thanks" donation. Glad the video could help clarify things. Much appreciated and enjoy your music. 🎹 👍🏻
Hi Marc, is the FS-6 compatible with Mainstage and my Nord stage 3? For instance, can I program it to advance forward and backward through patches within a Mainstage conert?
Hello @pdupuis I believe the answer to this is yes. There are a couple of ways to go about this - especially with the Stage 3. You have to first decide which is going to be your primary program switcher. Would you rather have the Nord Stage 3 dictate which patch to change in MainStage OR would you like MainStage to change the patch on the Stage 3? Once you decide this, you'll have a particular setup to follow. And because this pedal is an actual traditional footswitch (versus a MIDI footswitch), I assume your situation is such that you are going to connect the pedal to the Stage 3 first. Then from there, as you move up and down the programs on the Nord with the pedal, you are hoping to see your computer change accordingly. If this is the case, have a look at the extern video here: th-cam.com/video/YyfWnqmsshM/w-d-xo.html I also have far more detailed and advanced videos about this in the "Master the Nord Stage 3" course available on my website. In those videos, I demonstrate how to calibrate the Nord programs using Extern and how that can dictate the exact patch to change on the keyboard that it's connected to. In your case, it's not a keyboard, but rather MainStage.
@@MyKeysToMusic Such a thorough answer (that I couldn’t find anywhere else!) Thank you so much! I’ve become an instant fan of your work!
@@SquadCodeProductions Glad to hear it! Best of luck with your keyboard, and thanks for being a fan!
Hi Marc, I have a question. I bought a new Nord electro 6D and I want to use my Roland EV-5 for the volume. Is it possible to use the Boss FS-6 at the same time for rotary and Sustain?
Thanks very much, John
Hello @John Verschuren I took a few moment today to actually test all this with the Boss FS-6 pedal and it works like a charm! You need to set both sides of each pedal to "momentary" and you need two traditional 1/4 TS cables coming out of A and B to their respective ports on the Electro. Finally, you need to set the Electro sustain pedal and rotor pedal settings to "Closed" and after all that, it works great! Best of luck and here is an affiliate link if you should decide to pick one up on Amazon: - *BOSS FS-6 Dual Foot Switch: **amzn.to/2DddnYS*
@My Keys To Music , I only need one switch to switch sounds up, what is the best one for nord stage 2? Is fs-5u compatible with nord stage 2? It is the best switch pedal i ever used, so simple, no bulky, no need for batteries, and no risk of pressing the wrong switch. I don't get this abomination.
I put two FS-6 and plugged into RC505. There’s only one input so I used a splitter to plug into input Jack. so how do I get it to work with 4 switches.
@Heathbarbcrunch2 Heya Heathbarbcrunch2 - great question! Do you want each of the 4 switches to do something different or all do the same thing but from two different locations? There may actually be a way to do this with the right cable setup... If you can get a little more specific, I might be able to test this on this end.
Hey Marc, I plan to watch this video after work ;). I am looking at the Lead Foot FS-2 (Thomann), a simple switch with 2 foot knobs. I think this can be used for program up and down for my NS3 88. Is this compatible with my NS3 for changing patches, instead of the Boss FS6? I always use song mode for live playing in church, make patches for each section of the song and connect it to song mode. Can I use the pedal, Lead Foot FS-2, for changing patches also on a per patch base in song mode? Especially for ''planetshakers - only way'', its a fun challenge of 10 programs. In song mode, I set everything in order so I can just click next every time :)).
Best regards,
Nathan
Hello @Nathan Daniel The short answer to this is yes, the Lead Foot FS-2 should work with the Stage 3 both for changing programs as well as songs up and down in order. Hope that helps!
@@MyKeysToMusic Hi Marc, thanks for answer! In the mean time I brought and used it, it works! Ony thing is the double tap, but may not complain for this price ;)
@@nathandaniel5509 Awesome! Thanks for the update on this. Nice to know a very affordable alternative exists in this area.
@@MyKeysToMusic Always, als since you help a lot of people out with the stage 3 and attributes, it could indeed be handy from trial and error and just buying and testing what works. And if it works, its great and can be shared haha 😁
@@nathandaniel5509 Indeed!
How many hours the battery lasts?
Great question @EmanuelArquileu. Not sure exactly - didn't test it that far. I assume several weeks or months depending on usage. You can also get a power adapter to convert to the 9 Volt connector and plug it in.
Hi I have a problem with my fs-6.
the "pedal B" is always active.
- Mono cable entry in pedal A
- Mono cable entry in pedal B
- stereo cable output in A + B
Pedal A works (on \ off), while pedal B is always active even when pressed.
Obviously I tried to change cables, I also used contact spray but nothing.
Question: Is this normal or is there something wrong?
Thanks!
Hello @Dario according to what I see on this end in that exact scenario, everything works here. Pedal A and B both controll whatever they are connected to from any of the 3 cables. It sounds like a pedal issue potentially. You using a fresh battery?
Will it work with a Roland amp? Thanks
Hello Edward. It "should" work if the Roland amp accepts a traditional footswitch. These switches are meant to be mostly universal to work with all kinds of gear including amps. You may have to toggle the switches on the pedal itself to get the expected behavior, but other than that it "should" work. You could always see what the Roland amp manual has to say about it or ask a Roland amp expert. Good luck!
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your donation @Jesse Bradman!
Hi! I have a Nord Electro 5D, it doesn't have this input so I guess the Boss pedal is no option for me... Is there a way of changing between song parts via midi-ableton live?
Hello @Roberto Flores - Based on what I'm reading in the manual, there is no way to change between song parts via MIDI and Ableton Live. The Electro 5 doesn't support changing programs in Live mode (only regular mode). The Electro 6 does support live mode program changes, however. And of course, you could use Ableton to change the Electro 5 standard programs. You also have this MIDI option to change programs via a pedal: th-cam.com/video/Me6X9eQ6gIk/w-d-xo.html
@@MyKeysToMusic Thanks!
@@rflores0371 Happy to help and good luck!
Does it work in the Juno-DS to do "FAV-UP" with A whole doing "FAV down" with B? The Juno has an option to set the switcher pedal to Either FAV-UP OR FAV-DOWN. Does B always do the opposite as A or it does not apply to this usage?
It has a "Hold" pedal input and a "Control" pedal input and one function can be set for the program one.
@thephoenixchant - I don't know the answer to this off-hand sorry! I wonder if this is available in a manual anywhere? This might be one of these situations where you just have to buy and try.
Can u do the nord stage to behringer fcb1010
@ giacintopiotiscia4868 Giacinto, you may be asking if the Behringer is compatible with Nord keyboards - yes it is. You'll have to pay attention to programming the Behringer to match pedal assignments to the right MIDI CC# on your Nord keyboard. I don't own the Behringer, but if I did, I'd likely do a tutorial for it.
@@MyKeysToMusic Could you please do a tutorial in case? I need it so bad, i got a ns2 but i think it's the same thing. Thank you if you will help me!🤍
@@MyKeysToMusic i need like to program effects on fcb1010 or maybe just the sounds program. Like i should play live song N.1, i press the button to choose the bank of the song, and with the others switch pedals i change the sounds or if i need some effects on it
@@giacintopiotiscia4868 I went ahead and purchased an FCB1010 to see what we can do with it. It will take a few weeks before I put anything out on it, but this device is on the list to explore now, as several people have asked about it... It may end up being a low-priced lesson on my Patreon channel versus TH-cam, but in any case, I have a unit on the way. I'm excited about the new lower price for the unit, which means it could be a no-brainer accessory for any Nord-based keyboardist.
Thanks for the video Marc! I had a question for you. I’ve been noticing that my NS3 power cuts off when I connect the keyboard to the my FS-6. I use a TRS insert cable. Any ideas why that might be? Thanks so much!
Hey Max - this is very strange and I can't duplicate it on my end. Maybe some kind of short circuit? I did a search on it too and couldn't find anything. You may want to post something in the Nord User Forum to see if anyone chimes in with what might be the issue.
Same here.....it activates only when plugged in....and pretty sure it has to have that TRS cable to initiate B
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can boss fs-6 use in yamaha mox6?
Hello @ @UCDo9-ljJ4JfNIFdDm0h50owYes, you should be able to use this without any issue on your Yamaha. Here are the specific instructions for that: usa.yamaha.com/support/faq/music_production/7108.html. Feel free to use the affiliate link in the description of the video too pls. You don't pay any more for using it. Works if you are using the U.S.-based Amazon site. Thanks
hey thanks to show that but do you think i can use that with cakewalk by bandland and a br-800 to apply effect and stop effect, thanks
I'm not familiar with your exact setup but the br-800 has an input for a footswitch which I assume is fully compatible with the Boss FS-6 and FS-7. As to what the footswitch does specifically, I do not know. I'm also not certain if that compatibility translates into Cakewalk directly. Here is some potentially related reading on this discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5100-command-sequence-foot-control/
Best of luck with your setup, you may want to pose this question to this group here: discuss.cakewalk.com/
I would l8ke to have a separate sustain and latch if that is possible?
Hmm - So what you are saying here is that you want the option to plug this into the sustain pedal port on your keyboard but then also have the option to do either sustain (with A and latch/hold with B)? If that's the case, I'm not sure how you would go about doing that. Perhaps if you had the right cable it might be possible. I wonder if something like this would work? (Affiliate link): amzn.to/3gXTaua
I have no idea if this would work or not so take it with a grain of salt. I'm clutching at straws here.
The down side of these footswitches is that you have to unplug them every time you finish using them. So now I have three of them I have to remember to unplug them everytime.
I'm not sure how much power those little LEDs use but yes, technically speaking, I guess you're right about that. Some have used the power adapter that feeds into the 9volt connectors so that using a battery is not required.
I would like to use a footswitch with a Leslie effect I haven't yet figured out how to do that. 😁
Need a bit more clarification here. Are you looking for a foot switch that triggers the Leslie effect on your Nord keyboard specifically or are you looking for a stand-alone pedal system that imitates a Leslie by itself that could be used with any keyboard/instrument?
@@MyKeysToMusic I don't have a Nord. You are just the only guy with a keyboard/pedal video at the moment. I have other fx units but I don't have them set up with pedals yet. I am using the pedals with my wind controller and sequencer.
@@amonster8mymother Do you already have a Leslie effect? And if so, does it have an option for a foot switch?
@@MyKeysToMusic no I don't. I might have a patch in one of my fx units but I still have to get the pedal to turn it on and off.
Interesting that this isn't working out of the box. If your FX unit supports a foot switch and you're not able to get yours to work, I recommend the following troubleshooting steps:
1) Confirm that you are using the correct cable setup. The Boss pedal in this video one offers both the AB as well as A and B separate jacks. I assume you're coming from the AB combined jack from the foot switch and using a TRS Cable into your single jack on the FX unit?
2) Check to be sure your FX unit is setup to use a foot switch in the first place. There may be a setting allowing you to turn this feature on and off. Make sure that it's ready to accept such a signal.
3) Refer to the manual of the FX unit and read what it says about the foot switch specifically. Sometimes these things are setup to control something you didn't expect.
4) Try various devices and setups to see if you can get the switch to do "something" confirming that the unit and/or cables are not defective.
5) Experiment with the polarity options on the switch to see if the unit is expecting one or the other.
Beyond this, I can't think of why this doesn't work out of the box. Good luck.
"Perhaps you have an inverted brain, too!" XD Its time. Im buying one today. Thanks for the video, other wise, I would be to afraid to buy this pedal.
@Lady B. Goode - 👍🏼 Glad to hear the video gave you confidence to push through on a purchase. Thanks as always for your friendly voice and strong support!
Can it work on a Korg D1
Hello @paa kwasi Thanks for your question. The answer is no, these particular pedals will not work with the Korg D1. However, I did some research in the Korg D1 manual and on page 15 (cdn.korg.com/us/support/download/files/51cb5c3b2ee12667708941a602d28fb1.pdf?response-content-disposition=inline%3Bfilename%2A%3DUTF-8%27%27D1_OM_EFGS2.pdf&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf%3B), it states that the keyboard has the ability to receive program change commands from external MIDI devices. Therefore, you "MIGHT" be able to do something similar (change programs/sounds up and down) using this type of MIDI pedal instead: th-cam.com/video/Me6X9eQ6gIk/w-d-xo.html
*Side note and trivia:* For others reading this, the Korg D1 was released in Jan 2018, and is Stage Piano/Controller Keyboard that comes in white or black. It has 30 built-in sounds and weighted keys. Although it doesn't directly accommodate using a foot switch pedal from Boss or others (as noted above), I found it interesting that it provides for a "really advanced" feature providing control over "Temperament" which is an attribute that a lot of keyboards don't begin to address. I found this intriguing as this is the first time I've heard of a traditional stage piano/controller like this built with accommodations for temperament - especially in this price range. Then again, I would not in any way consider myself an expert at MIDI controller keyboards and perhaps a lot of them come with this feature? Out of the thousands and thousands of questions posed to me on this channel and in my online Nord programming school, I've had only one question about temperament (which is why it caught my eye as I read through the manual today). FYI Korg D1 pricing on Amazon (affiliate link): amzn.to/3shoKZg. (And lastly, for a thorough review of the Korg D1, I trust "Piano Dreamers" for this. I've had email conversations back and forth with the writer of this blog and he does a really thorough job reviewing keyboards: www.pianodreamers.com/korg-d1-review/ 👍🏼
Does it work wthout battery ?
The battery is required for this pedal to operate. However, if you look at the Boss FS-7, that one can work with a battery or without a battery with limited features. th-cam.com/video/y9-RoGYRaGA/w-d-xo.html
tbh I didn't like that it uses a battery.
I agree with you on this. The Boss FS-7 has the advantage in that it works (mostly) even without a battery: th-cam.com/video/y9-RoGYRaGA/w-d-xo.html Some students say they use those 9 volt decoy battery chargers, letting you "plug-in" your pedals even though it only takes a battery.