if you take out some batteries can it still be run as if you take ssome out then it could be totally airline safe and you coulkd still use it as you canm carry extra batteries seperate of devices in a protective case and then pop them back in later
Thinking of buying this thing literally just for the trackball because I hate having to use touchpads so much. That split spacebar doesn't look like something i'd want though, wish they had the option for just a standard spacebar.
I haven't gotten a chance to use it much. I don't actually use a laptop that frequently, and the battery issue (th-cam.com/video/Mf-E51vs11Y/w-d-xo.html) means it's not the first device I grab.
If I remember correctly, you're talking one proprietary firmware for the memory controller and everything else is open. I don't know if any of the libre distros have ARM versions.
Great product but I wish they would not use Styrofoam packing peanuts. They are totally non recyclable. When I received my Framework laptop all the packaging was recyclable card and it arrived in good condition.
How did you manage to find this machine while having no tech knowledge whatsoever? This is the first time I have ever heard someone calling a USB 3.0 port "blue ethernet connecter" wtf.
At 5:10 you say swap out individual battery cells. Please do not do that, those batteries are married. Introducing a fresh battery that will have a different internal resistance and other properties is how you get battery fires.
Yes, it's always recommended to install and replace any sort of battery cell as a group. Futher, if a device like this kills a single cell faster than the rest in a group that's a danger sign that makes trying to swap out single cells an even wore idea. Now, that all being said, I know that's a big issue with normal lithium ion cells. Do you know specifically of battery matching issues with LiFePO4 cells?
Looked like one of these fake Lenovo IBM T-xx series that were hacked by different NSA office teams. In the name of fighting domestic terrorisms and cyber warfare but actually video games like Halo, Doom, et al.
Because "normal keyboards" (whichever layout you mean by that) were modeled after typewriters. Those layouts had constraints we simply don't have to deal with anymore, so in a sense all modern "normal keyboards" are skeuomorphs of typewriters. Even this keyboard is still a skeuomorph of typewriters because of it's horizontal stagger, which would _never_ become part of a modern digital keyboard design if the design started from scratch. This keyboard layout honestly doesn't go far enough, they should've, imo, made it ortholinear and made the function keys symmetric.
This thing looks ugly and there's no ortholinear keyboard. What's with the crude OS? Bah. It's interesting but those batteries make it look like it's using 80s technology, complete with the transparent case.
Crude OS? Sway on Debian is S tier. The new mini does have an ortho keyboard though. Make sense in the 7" form factor where you're not going to fit a standard layout with decent sized keys.
Acrylic... my 10+ old Thinkpad X301 is made of magnesium and carbon fiber reinforced plastic. Free software and hardware is important (I'd say crucial) but unless you people become more practical and less idealistic, this will remain a toy for pure entertainment with no social effect whatsoever.
I don't think that's a terribly helpful way of looking at things. Different tools are built for different purposes and different potential users, and *almost all* tools are designed for someone other than you personally.
System76 has laptops made out of premium materials and Intel CPUs if that’s what you want. The Pinebook Pro is made out of a magnesium alloy too, but it’s cheap so I doubt it has the durability of a business laptop.
I hate this laptop But open-source is best option but their design is worrest There jamming old tech in box and calling as open-source laptop They didn't even designed DC adapter They just take old barrel jack and jam it in.... 0/10 for design and everything except open-source
That's one way to look at it, but I think it's entirely missing the point of this device. The DC input is a good example - it's specified to take variable voltage input and uses a very common connector. That means that if you have a 12V car battery and want to charge it, fabricating a new charging cable that's a couple of battery clips connected to a barrel jack doesn't just work, it's what the device designers intended you to do. If you were careful, you could also hook it directly to a solar panel. You're not required to want that. For many devices, I'd prefer to just have a USB-PD connector myself. But I'm really happy that this device exists, because for some use cases it's exactly the right thing. The designers mostly did a great job at building something that was otherwise missing in the world.
I love the MNT reform. It's the PC I wish I had as a kid. Can't wait to get one.
Great video! 2 comments: Display is 13", keys are Kailh Choc.
I measure the display at just under 12.5", but you're right - that's bigger than the 11" I was thinking it was.
“Right To Repair” as Louis likes to say, makes this a great choice!
TSA guys are gonna love that at the airport!
very interesting peace of equipment! it would be interesting to see a long term review of it
if you take out some batteries can it still be run as if you take ssome out then it could be totally airline safe and you coulkd still use it as you canm carry extra batteries seperate of devices in a protective case and then pop them back in later
I wish they'd gone with a ortholinear keyboard design. The horizontal stagger is one of those things we just can't seem to get rid of...
You might be interested in the new MNT pocket reform, it uses an ortholinear layout
Thinking of buying this thing literally just for the trackball because I hate having to use touchpads so much. That split spacebar doesn't look like something i'd want though, wish they had the option for just a standard spacebar.
The trackball is a bit crunchy on mine. There's been some work on improving it, but I don't know what the status is on new units.
They changed the keyboard layout meanwhile. The space bar is still 2 individual keys, but there are no more non-space keys in-between.
The moment you called USB ports an "ethernet connectors", I was like "What?"...😂
I meant wifi plugs, sorry.
Cool thing is if you can't afford the full laptop you can buy every part of it separately so you can just buy parts and build it over time
Greatest computer. I’ll surely get one if I have the fund.
Why would you try and turn it on with out the Drive, Batteries connected and other modules installed?
What is your opinion about it after 4 months?
I haven't gotten a chance to use it much. I don't actually use a laptop that frequently, and the battery issue (th-cam.com/video/Mf-E51vs11Y/w-d-xo.html) means it's not the first device I grab.
So how open is this laptop compared to a Librebooted laptop and can you run a fully libre distro like Parabola or Trisquel?
If I remember correctly, you're talking one proprietary firmware for the memory controller and everything else is open. I don't know if any of the libre distros have ARM versions.
@@NatTuck really question is does the Linux-Libre kernel work?
Interesting laptop. I fear that I would hate that keyboard layout, though.
I've been using it off and on since I got it, and I'm slowly getting used to it. It's mostly just the narrow right shift that screws me up now.
Great product but I wish they would not use Styrofoam packing peanuts. They are totally non recyclable. When I received my Framework laptop all the packaging was recyclable card and it arrived in good condition.
How did you manage to find this machine while having no tech knowledge whatsoever? This is the first time I have ever heard someone calling a USB 3.0 port "blue ethernet connecter" wtf.
Very informative , thank you
Cant believe the cord is not 90 degree flex?
nice
Ugh, clear acrylic. I feel like that's gonna get all scuffed and ugly after years of use.
So laser cut a new one.
I wish they made the whole thing transparent!! Wasted opportunity.
At 5:10 you say swap out individual battery cells. Please do not do that, those batteries are married. Introducing a fresh battery that will have a different internal resistance and other properties is how you get battery fires.
Yes, it's always recommended to install and replace any sort of battery cell as a group. Futher, if a device like this kills a single cell faster than the rest in a group that's a danger sign that makes trying to swap out single cells an even wore idea.
Now, that all being said, I know that's a big issue with normal lithium ion cells. Do you know specifically of battery matching issues with LiFePO4 cells?
@@NatTuck While they are safer, less chace of runaway, lower density etc, they still need to be balanced before paired up.
it's possible arch linux
Looks like someone might have it working. I haven't tried it.
Basically can't run anything practical such as Microsoft bazillion of games library for almost half a century??
Looked like one of these fake Lenovo IBM T-xx series that were hacked by different NSA office teams. In the name of fighting domestic terrorisms and cyber warfare but actually video games like Halo, Doom, et al.
why in world they did not use normal keyboard, like wtf ...
Conceptually the layout is great. I like most of their choices, but still need to work on hitting space rather than alt reliably.
Because "normal keyboards" (whichever layout you mean by that) were modeled after typewriters. Those layouts had constraints we simply don't have to deal with anymore, so in a sense all modern "normal keyboards" are skeuomorphs of typewriters. Even this keyboard is still a skeuomorph of typewriters because of it's horizontal stagger, which would _never_ become part of a modern digital keyboard design if the design started from scratch. This keyboard layout honestly doesn't go far enough, they should've, imo, made it ortholinear and made the function keys symmetric.
Want.
sorry , you're showing a interesting thing in boring way . pardon please check your video before publishing 😔
Thanks!
This thing looks ugly and there's no ortholinear keyboard. What's with the crude OS? Bah. It's interesting but those batteries make it look like it's using 80s technology, complete with the transparent case.
Crude OS? Sway on Debian is S tier.
The new mini does have an ortho keyboard though. Make sense in the 7" form factor where you're not going to fit a standard layout with decent sized keys.
Worst ever paper Unwrapper.
Acrylic... my 10+ old Thinkpad X301 is made of magnesium and carbon fiber reinforced plastic. Free software and hardware is important (I'd say crucial) but unless you people become more practical and less idealistic, this will remain a toy for pure entertainment with no social effect whatsoever.
I don't think that's a terribly helpful way of looking at things. Different tools are built for different purposes and different potential users, and *almost all* tools are designed for someone other than you personally.
You sound fun.
System76 has laptops made out of premium materials and Intel CPUs if that’s what you want. The Pinebook Pro is made out of a magnesium alloy too, but it’s cheap so I doubt it has the durability of a business laptop.
Boring
I hate this laptop
But open-source is best option but their design is worrest
There jamming old tech in box and calling as open-source laptop
They didn't even designed DC adapter
They just take old barrel jack and jam it in....
0/10 for design and everything except open-source
That's one way to look at it, but I think it's entirely missing the point of this device. The DC input is a good example - it's specified to take variable voltage input and uses a very common connector. That means that if you have a 12V car battery and want to charge it, fabricating a new charging cable that's a couple of battery clips connected to a barrel jack doesn't just work, it's what the device designers intended you to do. If you were careful, you could also hook it directly to a solar panel.
You're not required to want that. For many devices, I'd prefer to just have a USB-PD connector myself. But I'm really happy that this device exists, because for some use cases it's exactly the right thing. The designers mostly did a great job at building something that was otherwise missing in the world.