Is John Cena Wrestling's FINAL Megastar?
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- In 2002 John Cena came onto the scene in WWE. He won over fans with his Dr. of Thuganomics character. He then made a transition to a do no wrong babyface when the company transitioned to PG. Through it all he became a megastar the likes of which WWE may never see again. Cena simply became a pop culture icon, whether that be movies, wrestling or even memes. The name John Cena became universally recognized. As wrestling is declining more and more year by year, its possible we may never see someone like John Cena again.. in this video I take a look at who could possibly be WWE's final megastar.
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People never realised Cena’s star power unless he became a part-timer. His mammoth growth played a crucial role in WWE’s upliftment!
Never know what you have until its gone.
Same could be said about lesnar in his second run
i think brock was the first choice.
i think brock was the first choice.
@@bpnk5237 Brock brought attention from the UFC fan base but he’s nowhere near the star level Cena is
if we’re being honest the wwe wouldn’t have survived the PG era without cena. who’s else in the ruthless aggression could’ve switched their character to a squeaky clean baby face like cena did
you just get it 👏
Cm punk? Jeff hardy? Rey mysterio?
@@Daniel-js2dk I can’t see Punk and Jeff any other way than they were and Mysterio is the only masked wrestler people probably know so maybe
@@Jose-ue1ss That’s your opinion, but both of guys Jeff & Punk sold more merchandise than Cena for significant standpoint and were over as well, so don’t let your fan boying blind u
@@Daniel-js2dk All three were great and had their runs but hardy had his drug and legal issues (i’m a hardy fan btw) reys knees were almost gone by the end of his run and they never really gave a Punk a chance to be THE guy. He always behind Cena and the part timers
The fact that almost everyone knows cena whether they like wrestling or not just shows how huge he is, whenever cena returns the match he is in has a big fight feel, no matter who he faces, whether it’s the fiend, or Roman or drew or even daniel bryan it’s always intriguing, we’ll hv to see if Roman becomes a megastar he has been gr8 and can definitely draw eyes on the company but yeah I agree, he has no opponents as big as him, Roman needs cena, rock and wrestlers like those to make him a megastar
They can make a feud between him and Seth Rollins with a great storyline, He is the biggest they have rn apart from Roman, also that's a pretty great rivalry with history, it will draw attention.
Exactly in the past my non wwe fan knew everything about cena and who's he fighting batista edge orten .. cena is universal
@Roman Reigns i think he is gonna lose against cena at summer slam
@Roman Reigns you act like being 43 is old
@@ggmu6590 No way in hell is Roman losing the title to Cena or anybody else for that matter for a long while
For now, I think John Cena is the last megastar. No one on the current roster, aside from randy orton, does a non wrestling fan even know of. Roman reigns is not must see tv like Cena. I remember back then the only reason to get cable tv was to watch Monday night raw for John Cena.
Exactly
Agreed that’s exactly what I said but people just hate on Cena
They're trying too hard to make roman a mega star like cena. Although he does have the look and body structure of a mega star, he doesn't have the mic skills and in ring performance
@@trewilliams8411 Same
@@stansmith5610 you’re an idiot, Roman and what he’s doing now is Cena and what he did back in the 2000s
Cena's commitment to WWE and their projects is insane.
The problem with WWE is that they miss chances to push people. CM Punk could’ve broken through, hell, pissed off, unappreciated Miz might’ve broken through given he’s somewhat known thanks to reality tv and solid acting skills, but WWE never capitalized
The miz is boring af as a face and his gimmick has become shitty
@@liljacobxx in 2018 he was phenomenal as the angry non-face, non-heel that just wanted respect
@@liljacobxx when I say pissed off under appreciated Miz I mean his IC run a few years ago. He had so much momentum that he could have broken through to the mainstream, as long as they turned him heel in time. He’s entertaining enough as an asshole that I think he’s the only WWE heel who could’ve gained mainstream popularity as a heel IMO. Orton and Edge have this sadistic manner that couldn’t be taken seriously, and the smoldering dominance of Roman doesn’t work well outside of kayfabe (nowadays). Miz’s arrogance works really well though, just look at how many people love Zlatan’s shtick
Miz was never really anyone favorite really he was just annoying
@@matthiasmccormack3213 his ic run was alright bit i never liked him cheating at least do it looking cool or with style but he never did.
Just saying, you can't have the last big star without the last big heel. And for Cena, that was Orton.
“There is no Luke Skywalker without Darth Vader. There is no Batman without The Joker. And there is no John Cena without CM Punk.”
- Paul Heyman
@@rowsell6523 YES
John never really had a story saga of the good guy vs the heel in the same legendary way of the likes of Bret vs HBK or Austin vs The Rock etc
@@jamesbmedia8996 I feel like CM Punk was that honestly, it didn't take place in the attitude era sure but it was great.
Y'all be forgetting about EDGE and JBL fr
I think there’s a crucial element here that not talked about enough. Mic work. John Cena, The Rock, Austin all had great work on the mic that captivated the audience. When I was a kid, John Cena would literally inspire me and impress me with his weekly long tangents and verbal beat downs that only
He could deliver. He the best on the mic since the rock and you just don’t see that passion and skill with the roster today. There are other ways you can become popular of course but look at CM Punk he was very close to that level because he had the mic skills and the wrestling ability. Everyone in the WWE today feels so bland IMO.
Love him or Hate him, you just can't deny Cena was the Man in WWE. He wasn't the best wrestler but he did look like the toughest. His Super Cena was a bit kids cartoon like, but if they had made him Heel he legitimately would have been a Lesnar intimidating Figure. Sad we didn't see that! Nevertheless, Cena was the last great Man of WWE.
Last great man???
We didn't see that. How ironic
@@vincentkennedymcmahon50 hey vince wanna sign a contract
I always felt like Cena was never meant to get to this level, at least in Vinces eyes. After Rock left for Hollywood and Brock for UFC was when Vince decided to stop making megastars because he’s scared of anyone becoming bigger than the company itself, he wants the actual company to be the Star.
100% true, and anyone who was watching back then could tell too. Brock Lesnar got the original megapush and Randy Orton was hand picked to be The Guy as soon as he debuted. Cena and Batists were never supposed to be the headliners but life has a funny way of working out.
LOL at Vince not wanting to create mega-stars....
@@jskow9677 Vince doesn’t want to create megastars. He wants to create one megastar: the WWE.
Which is impossible. I don’t care who you are, if you’re in sports or entertainment, you need stars.
Stars are what draw.
The NFL is nice, but without Patrick Maholmes or Tom Brady, they’d be in trouble.
I love the NBA, but without LeBron, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, CP3 or Giannis, they wouldn’t be able to draw ratings or sell tickets.
TV and web shows are like that-you need a name or a hot star that draws viewers.
Wrestling is no different. That’s why you need someone like Austin, Rock, Ric Flair, Undertaker, or even John Cena-names draw in that business. Not brands. This isn’t clothing or men’s or women’s wear, it’s entertainment. If you don’t have stars, you won’t draw jack.
WWE by itself will never draw like they would with big stars on the marquee. And that’s why they’re struggling now. The only ones on the main roster who have gotten any kind of outside exposure lately are Roman, Ronda Rousey (if she ever comes back) and Sasha Banks, and maybe Becky Lynch. But outside of that, mainstream viewers have no idea who these other people are. No stars, no viewers.
hmm that is very interesting
John Cena is the first name that comes in my mind when I see or hear the word 'WWE'
What about roman
@@smir4067 Reigns is my favorite, but I knew Cena when I didn't even watch Wrestling
@Roman Reigns exactly
I think of Bruno hulk Hogan and then stone cold and then the rock and last John Cena when I think of wwe
@@smir4067 Roman is on his way, but ask anyone who even doesn't watch WWE they will tell they know Cena
Bro these videos are so accurate and amazingly edited WOW, Great Job 👏👏✌️
Thank you! I always want to make these high production. Appreciate the kind words!
@@SuperkickStudios Yeah but please increase the volume abit brother and keep on making these videos.
@@yarapraneethkumar6900 i will man!
Not really, considering it's very American centric. We forget that Ibushi was a huge mega star in Japan. Then we forget CM PUNK in 2012-2014. PUNK really was the last American (US) megastar. After him it went to the indies like Omega, Bullet Club . I think we will be seeing an invasion of British Megastars now, we've already see Becky Lynch for the womens, now it will be Osprey. But as far as Americans, the next US megastar is most likely HANGMAN PAGE , hes only 29 but is on the path to have a Austin esque breakout year in 2022. Then we got Andrade & Rush who are blowing up in AAA.
@@chibiromano5631 Punk is overrated
With how much damn control they have over everyone, with exceptions like Roman, Brock and part timers, no one is gonna even touch Cena's level. He IS the last GOAT, the last lifeline to pop culture.
Roman can get all the push he want... He will never be a popculture icon
@@khesipresents1885 wtf did cena turn into the goat people hate cena not because it was the cool thing to do but because how many guys he buried along the way people have somewhat warm up to him now because he is been gone but he still despise but a large group of fans and cena only became a megastar once he stop being a full time performer because during his prime hardly anybody knew cena outside of wrestling he was the top star but not a very liked top star
@@joselandin6957 who tf cena buried except nexus and if he would have pushed them vince would have buried them after couple of months just like they did with retribution and when cena was a full timer here in the east he was a household name and still is cena and taker are two of the most famous wrestlers worldwide
@@johntitor7357 He buried Arex Riley, he buried Wyatt Family
@@joselandin6957 Did you point out your opinion before watching the video?
This video just made me emotional, as someone who grew up in the 2000's there is no bigger star than Cena for me ❤
Not only for you he was the wwe ..fact
I first found out about John Cena in Smackdown vs Raw 2009, by late 2008 (I already knew about wrestling before getting this game because I had played other games and watched a match here and there). His high rating, realistic clothes, easy to remember name, great theme song and buff physique made him look really badass. Instant favorite. After that I would always buy WWE games, watch the NXT (only show available at that time), would start watching PPVs on the internet and learning about the past of the product.
Issue is that it got repetitive and videos about the late 90s and early 2000s era made me feel like I was getting scammed for watching such a boring, safe, repetitive and shallow show, and John Cena was also a main reason for that. He started to represent everything I didn't like about wrestling. He was too OP, the storylines were boring and matches were predictable. Once I learned how wrestlers performed the moves, I got more critical of the product and could no longer waste my time watching wrestlers who didn't bother making the moves look real and somewhat violent (WWE is also guilty here).
Anyway, yeah, John Cena is arguably the last megastar. He was easy to like and somewhat famous even among non-wrestling fans, then mid 2010s memes and movie appearances made him famous worldwide. You knew John Cena even if you didn't know WWE. Now he's even playing a memorable character in a great TV show called Peacemaker and had some blockbusters appearances too.
Vince is really trying to make Roman Reigns have that appeal but it's not working. WWE just doesn't have the same power/influence anymore, maybe even if The Rock and Stone Cold were to debut today, WWE still wouldn't be able to create a megastar. I think it's just over for them... wrestling won't ever get as mainstream as it once was.
Only 4 guys ever have had the personality/charisma to be a true mega star. Hogan, Austin, Rock, and Cena. Thats it. Its somewhat possible there could be another one in the near future but currently nobody fits that bill.
HBK too
Sorry Cena is not the level of other 3
Roman reigns is the current biggest megastar 🔥 bro...but star power is less as compared to perivous stars
Big facts
@@A123-u7z he's literally had the best career of the 3 as far as accolades so how is he not? Literally carried the company on his back for more than 10 years stop it
I grew up in the 2000’s, I know that Cena helped keep WWE alive as he carried the company on he’s shoulder throughout the years since ruthless aggression era, I grew up watching him along with the rest like Eddie Guerrero, undertaker and RVD since I was 5 year-old , but now Roman is having a chance to do the same thing for the future as sum part timers legends help put him over especially the rock since now Roman is at he’s prime of popularity in the business.
Yeah cuz Cena is a modern entertainer. He has the coolest looks and personality.
Yes undertaker was the one who made fall in love with WWE
but why are there no other similar wrestlers to be his "stone cold" or the rock perse. why must it be part time wrestlers? do they not have enough good wrestlers? do you see any potentials btw?
It’s so refreshing when someone cares about the WWE so much and make videos like this. Thank you 🔥
i appreciate the kind words! Thank you
Honestly its so refreshing to watch a Cena video and not roll my eyes when someone says wwe ruined him by not making him a heel
Refreshing? Lol there's sooo many channels doing these type of videos. Good job getting noticed tho.
John Cena is WWE’s last & final real mega star (at least for the time being). Great video 🔥.
Glad you liked it🔥
Triple H also stated the same fact in an interview
What made Cena work so well, was that he WANTED to do every outside the ring thing he did. He's genuinely a good guy.
I still don’t understand people who hate on Cena to this day. I used to hate on him but that’s because I was a kid getting influenced by dumb ass marks on the Internet. Now I love the guy more then before
You know now they are hating on him because of the China shit and it’s annoying as hell he only did something wrong one time and that’s it
@@michaeltheuntouchable nah before that they are just internet bullies and haters and hate him for being successful
@@katlehotrey212 I dunno about that.
Its because of his gimmick which got stale thoroughout the years.
@@yashbspianoandcompositions1042 it didn’t go stale, his character legit changed through out the years
1:50 *We're at a time now* where *we don't see John Cena* as much anymore
*"His time is up our time is now. We can't see him our time is now"*
Why you gotta do me like that :(
I feel like Cena would’ve been relevant in the attitude era too with his Dr. of Thuganomics theme
He would of because rap was taking off in pop culture at the time with 50 cent etc
With his talent in cutting promos he would've been a big star in attitude era
50 cent is way after attitude era, it was more eminem time but no he wouldnt have done as well because he would have been called a poser by even more people not just christian
@@51-73-i6w 50 cent started popping like mid 2000
@@talisaburke1363 attitude era started in 1997 when steve austin and d generation x made wwf super popular
I love cena he’s the reason I started training for pro wrestling but in early 2016 I was 14 and even at that age I knew once he left wwe and became a part timer his haters were gonna love him… people never realize what they had till its gone💯❤️
They're trying so hard to get RR to be "the next John Cena", but they won't have any megastar ever again. Not with the current content they're producing.
Reigns can't be a star as big as Cena
Reigns is garbage. Stupid gimmick with the backings of a crazy old man.
@@belvinnadar5782 nigga y’all trippin😂😂😂
@@truthtella3371 roman is a star but not a mega star so chill
@@tranquilohomie2248 he’s a heel who’s gettin cheered 😂😂
I agree that Roman don't have other guys like Orton, Edge, HHH who can make him the mainstream wrestler. That's the reason why we need Roman vs Cena/The Rock to make him somewhat mainstream.
Yeah, you need more of a star power to build Roman as a mainstream wrestler. People can remember Roman being a wrestler in WWE, but it takes something more to accentuate his entire career. Rock and Cena could do that without a shadow of a doubt.
Every top guy in wwe had a great rogues gallery. Hogan had piper, andre, savage etc. Austin had Vince, bret, rock, taker, hhh. Rock had austin, hhh, Jericho, angle. Cena had edge, orton, punk, lesnar, hbk etc. Roman is great, but unfortunately he has nobody on his level to play off of. You need arch enemies to create conflict, and conflict makes money. Strowman was a great rival for roman, but wwe ruined braun. Rollins was ok but roman wasn't as good in 2015 as he is now. Apart from roman, wwe have failed to create more stars in the wwe.
If you wanna know when these matches are happening Roman is versing Cena at SummerSlam and The Rock at Wrestlemania 38 (possibly). Eventually I think he is gonna run through Edge and Lesnar, because wwe has nobody else
Roman dont have anyone else on his level because wwe has only focused on him for the past 7 years despite such negative reactions from fans
@@-sr5hd EXACTLY. And WWE had plenty of chances to create similar stars on Roman’s level. Braun, Finn Balor, Bray Wyatt, Seth Rollins, AJ Styles, Drew McIntyre, all of them could be or could have been on that same big star level. Yet WWE only focused on building Roman and ignored giving the rest of the roster stronger support. The only one of those guys now that has a chance of being at Roman’s level is Drew, although WWE seem hellbent on ruining him, too, lately.
Imagine how big a star cena wouldve been if he had had proper feuds with stone cold, Goldberg, Rock, Sting or Hogan in the mid-2000s. He was left to start from scratch. If all the build that was given to Lesnar had been given to him, all of Orton, Punk, Edge and the rest would've been so much bigger because of him. No disrespect to the veterans that did put him over, but at that point, they were B+ players. And he still did a hell of a job!
RIGHTTTT PPL DONT WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT THO
You can say all that.but again we are overlooking into it.steve austin cena nevee a chance with neck issues force him to retire.rock left for Hollywood in 2004 but cena was not that big in 2004 at the time.hogan also wont work well with their feud mainly chance to underwhelm with hogan limited physicality and feud between 2005 hogan and cena would be like son fighting with father for family assets.but he also has chances to bring higher with other stars and they did after that so many pushes leads to people divide on cena
I can’t wait when he comes back to summer slam. I rlly want him to break the record of being a 17x time world champion and winning the intercontinental title as well, then soon retire which it will be hard for me and probably millions around to the world to watch that happen. John cena is truly our cenanation leader
I'm a casual but I watched wrestling from the 80"s when I could here in the UK. I think its gonna be harder for any wrestler to be a megastar in today's generation as there's more entertainment / distractions and this shows in lower viewing figures as mentioned in the vid. I also reckon any wrestler will have to have an ability to be a poster boy across many mediums outside of the ring to be huge these days.
Roman is famous because of WWE but WWE was famous because of John cena
Eh em
Another gr8 video from superkick studios, can’t believe it lasted 13 mins, honestly it felt shorter
appreciate you man!
Can’t believe a guy went from punching kurt angle to becoming wrestling’s biggest star
RUTHLESS AGGRESSION
And he was dressed like a jobber lol
who would've thought that fateful match in 2002 would be the birth of a superstar?
love from Bangladesh. Here in my country, john cena is probably the most well known American. Guys like The rock, triple h, randy orton, roman reigns are quite famous too
To be honest, i think WWE Universe dont deserve another JOHN CENA......
He carried the entire franchise for nearly two decades yet even his hometown people dont give the respect he deserve. Its a shame that we are even discussing this topic.
Because it was so boring.
Your right
I used to dislike him cuz it was a trend back in the 2010s. But now I'll say it: Cena is the greatest of all time. I don't even watch WWE now, only some recent cena segments
You were spot on with feuds and the talents. Also you have to acknowledge the fact that WWE never actually cared about what fans want and the creative direction sucked from 2016. people were more exposed to the "competition" due to the social media also AEW is also hitting it out of the park with the talents that were never pushed by WWE. Sure AEW has some drawbacks but you have to pull the trigger when a talent got over with audience. Which WWE miserably failed to do so but AEW pulls the trigger when needed.
It’s really sad to see the hate he gets now because of that whole mishap with China. He’s done so much damn good in this world that the minute he made a mistake, people want him off the face of the earth. One of the truly good people in this world and my Goat of pro wrestling.
Where have you been? Cena has always been hated even more than Roman. With his corny rap gimmick and his phony marine gimmick. He's been hated since 2006. When he had a match against triple h at wrestlemania it was so bad that the audience wanted triple h to win , they cheered him and booed Cena. Every raw after mania show Cena has always been booed out the building.
@@SS-tg8lf a lot of people loved the rap gimmick get your facts straight that’s why he was pushed
@@michaeltheuntouchable Yes initially they loved it. But as time passed people got bored of the gimmick and started to boo him. Watch anything with Cena towards the end of 2005 and early 2006 he was already getting boos back then. By mid 2006 the boos were solidified. They only cheer for the thuganomics cena now because it's nostalgic and the only good gimmick he had. I understand you like Cena possibly because he was part of your childhood. But if you watched steve austin, the rock, hollywood hogan, Evolution triple h, big evil Undertaker and the NWO all of those people surpass Cena. Go on youtube and type in any of the names I just listed and compare that to Cena in 2005 or any year. He doesn't measure up to any of them.
@@SS-tg8lf it’s what happens to every babyface anymore. The audience will not continuously cheer a babyface ever again, it just won’t happen. As soon as they get their “moment” fans start to turn on him/her. Happened with Reigns, Rollins, and now McIntyre. It ain’t Cena’s fault.
@@SS-tg8lf imma be real they only got bored of the rapper gimmick because he stopped rapping to the ring you get what I’m saying?
Yes, John Cena is the wrestling’s last big megastar. He got me, and a lot of other people into wrestling. My mom, who isn’t even a wrestling fan (and I doubt she ever was), knew who he was back in the early 00’s.
Roman has the potential to be just that, he just needs to tweak his gimmick a little bit, and expand a lot more outside of wrestling (which I respect if he doesn’t).
Roman Reigns has expressed an interest in Hollywood.
This is probably the first video of yours I've seen. Man you can really tell a story, that was brilliant, great context to it. Definitely subscribed dude!
Roman could spent an entire lifetime and he will never reach Cena level.
Yes one day he will bigger than cena 😜
@@smir4067 not even close bruh. Y’all new kids today don’t understand how famous and important John was and still is. The man is responsible for some of the biggest sell outs in wrestling and arena history. His face was on tickets, posters, mags,shirts, BILLBOARDS, cars, commercials, he got his own movies, endorsements, pillows, bed sheets. You name it. Roman is a awesome wrestler but nobody will EVER be John cena. Even when he’s gone.
Fact
@@Tre3x777 man the point is during transmission of wwe to PG, Cena capitalised on the motion forwarded on how to appeal the childrens. Now with time , even the current set is being questioned. Do note on how tom and jerry got banned. In the present era its difficult given the constraints they r provided. It is also a reason why AEW is getting popularized due to its funny commedy. Diva's back than and the one's which r now. U can't compare those old Ds with the current ones.
Randy is a megastar as well but I’ll let you decide if he is a John cena level probably no.
Cena got me into wrestling. He's undoubtedly a legend. But I do hope we get more megastars in the future
John Cena may possibly be WWE’s last mega star to be honest. There is no one today who’s fresh and new that could align with John Cena’s presence and popularity. There will never be another poster boy for WWE, that can compare to John Cena. The pro-wrestling audience and our world has changed drastically, to the point where it’s kinda hard getting someone over to a high level due to critics. The way John Cena got over will never be duplicated, especially since he got over in a different era, the Ruthless Aggression Era. Like what most people are saying here, Roman Reigns is close but not that close to Cena’s caliber.
Theres no mega-megastar after Cena sorry to say
John Cena has been carrying WWE on his back for decades.
So true 👍💯
For more than 15 years
Overrated ,WWE ended in 05, never great after that
Not only was John Cena the face of the RA Era and the PG Era, he was one of the only 4 men known in the Reality TV Era. On the show Total Divas, while the women's division became popular, he was the main man being pushed, next being Daniel Bryan, the Usos, and the Miz.
when I started watching WWE in 2011, Cena became my favourite instantly. I stopped watching WWE somewhere around 2016. I still think he is the biggest star WWE could ever produce, to the point that he IS WWE. I watch it sometimes only when he comes back.
This video really has me thinking on who’s gonna be the next top guy WWE after Roman Reigns.
I think it's gunna be that parker Bordeaux kid. He has the look that vince wants and he comes from an athletic background, just like roman did.
@@JungleBunkRootsMusic2022 doubt it because Braun was also what Vince wanted and we saw how that ended
Montez Ford, Kyle O'Reilly or hell maybe Riddle
@@JungleBunkRootsMusic2022 Or even Bronson Steiner.
@@echoasis1935 These are all midcarders at best.
John Cena's talent was taken for granted. Let's not take Roman Reigns' talent for granted please.
I won`t. Roman Reigns says he does not see himself wrestling past 40 years of age. I can believe that, especially with his Leukemia going on. Plus, there is Hollywood, which i can see him becoming even more popular there than in WWE.
Roman isnt as talented though
@Big Daddy Rikka Yes Roman scores better than John in some areas but he can't carry the WWE like Cena did. He just doesn't have the same appeal to a wide audience, does not have the same level of charisma and is not good on the mic. He's not terrible on the mic or cutting promos but the very best in the business and those that were the face of the company in the past were always so good in front of the camera. Nothing against Roman and I wish him well, but I don't think he has what it takes to pick up the baton from Cena and keep running.
@@kashattack tbh reigns is great but Cena was better than him his promos are so good that he owned the rock he is the only person in wwe who delivered the last 5 star match in wwe(talking about main roster) that's why he is better
The fact that John made his era popular and was the only mega star in his era makes him the greatest of all time
He was not the only megastar Hhh HbK Taker Angle Lesnar and Orton were megastar
@@nbamixtapemasterjam7067 What about The Miz?
@@nbamixtapemasterjam7067 Shawn Michaels, HHH, and The Undertaker became part timers & John was the only one left. The one thing that could've made this era the best is if we got John Cena vs The Undertaker but it never happened
ALL time? 😆 No, he’s nothing compared to The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Ric Flair or Hogan (who I don’t even like). Hell, I’ll even throw Bruno Sammartino in there.
Jeff there is no way you count out John Cena when you are mentioning all time greats, his legacy is just as if not more legendary as the rest of those wrestling legends
As long as wwe has ultimate control over all of their talents I really don’t see anyone breaking through with the exception of Roman who probably has some control
I’m glad I found this channel and thanks for the level headed discussion. I don’t watch wrestling as much as before, but I enjoy keeping up with the wrestling news.
We Indians always love head of table Roman reigns and you superkick studios. Your videos are God level. What a editing ❤️ thank u so much for these videos
Because Indians like baby faces and many doesn't know English in childhood to get that roman had bad mic skills before his heel turn
@@KrishanKumar-ec1ch roman is still good even before his heel turn.Also most of the Indian fans are casual fans which is actually good. Look at attitude era and ruthless aggression era they become successful because of casual fans.
Because people of my country suck
@@-sr5hd sirf tu sucks india sei baki logon ko kyu bich mein la raha hei 🥴
@@jayasuriyaks6220 yes but back in the day kids get to knew that WWE is scripted when they are 15,16 and left watching because they don't how to watch it how Americas watch , cheering,booeing, entertainment.thats the reason indians have casual most casual
John is special. He always knew how to rile up the wwe universe no matter who he was wrestling against.
Off topic a lil but this video made me realize that Cena and Orton feels just like The Rock and Stone Cold and Batista and Brock Lesnar. One face, one heel that were the biggest people in the company. One goes off to pursue mainstream success through movies, the other dedicates their life to the business. I think Roman and Cody will be the next ones to keep this trend with Roman going off to pursue movies. Or maybe I'm looking too deep into it lmao.
Love or hate Cena as a wrestler you cannot dislike him as a human being. This guy has granted over 650 wishes via the make a wish foundation. You must respect that effort no matter what.
Personally I’m more concerned with the decline in popularity of wrestling. If anyone can turn things around I would be forever appreciative of that person
I wouldn't have wasted Cm punk, Sheamus, Kevin Owens and Dean Ambrose
That's what happens when you cater to SJWs and put too much emphasis on in-ring athletics when the primary focuses of the show should ALWAYS be entertainment and storytelling.
we need a modern day ric flair
@@iheartdrawing9455 Yep, it's gonna take charisma and psychology, two things most wrestlers now desperately lack
None of the current guys have that IT factor/show stopper aura anymore in any of the promotions, the veterans i.e randy and edge aren't gonna be there for too much
I love John Cena. He was my childhood hero. I used too cry when I saw him getting jumped or losing a match.
Is that you R-Truth?
You didn't have a father?
Cena is the last megastar and I hope he comes back to WWE SOON
He is, on the first Smackdown with fans to face Roman at SummerSlam
Roman has potential to be a megastar
Roman reigns is currently the biggest megastar...not Cena bro..but star power Roman reigns is less star power as compare to Cena...that only difference but the megastar of the company is Roman reigns today wrestlering world 🔥🔥💪💓
@@amelaby1575 you’re crazy I can go up to 5 people at my work and ask them who Roman reigns is I bet out of 5 people 1 would know who he is. I go up to those same 5 people and ask who John Cena is each one would probably know who Cena is and what he does no disrespect to Roman but Cena a the last megastar
@@MicahDoesIt you are crazy ....I don't know where you live...come to India and ask anyone who is Roman reigns is everything will answer....
If you ask a random guy from any country who isn't a wrestling fan, he do knows 2 guys
"Undertaker and John Cena"
This completely shows that these guys are the biggest name in the history of WWE( yes even bigger than Austin, Hogan & Rock)
P.S. I have tried this multiple times
"It's just the cycle of how things go, especially in pro-wrestling."
That line alone ensures there will be another Megastar. I was young, and now I'm not so young lol. And I remember when Vince thought guys like Hellwig and Macgee would replace Hogan. I remember when the Monday Night Wars began, and the "F" needed new blood to bring life back to the company. Dunno if it's gonna AEW or some other catastrophic occurrence, but there will be another mega star.
If cena roman gets news eyes on the company and ppl can see how good Roman is, it could be benefiting
Cena was on top for 10 years and in those 10 years millions turned it off. He isn’t that level of star. Kids love him, great. More or the business than making children smile.
@@darthdesidus4361 bro what 😂 John cena is the goat. Carried that company for almost 20 years what u just said is all false everybody loved him and if u didn’t just say that don’t speak for everybody
@@spudthegamefreak1627 “Everybody loved him?” 😆 NO they didn’t. I have no idea how old you are, but I’ve been in arenas back then where 60 percent of the crowd hated Cena’s guts. I heard those boos live. It was a palpable hatred. As soon as he dropped the Thuganomics gimmick and became “Super Cena” the guy who always wins and buried talent and stopped pushes once he worked with someone even remotely over, 18-34 fans turned on him. He’s part of the reason why Roman couldn’t get over for years, because people didn’t want another Super Cena clone and that’s exactly what Roman was before he turned heel. To say Cena is the greatest of all time when he exists in the same universe where Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, Ric Flair, Hogan and Bret Hart worked is just lunacy.
@@Jeff_Pryce wwe is the reason Roman reigns couldn’t get over that’s not cena fault. 😂 I don’t know how old u are but nobody like Roman after his shield gimmick we saw it for what it was they was pushing reigns to be the next John cena basically and was tryna force him down our throats because they felt they needed another top star like cena. Can’t put that one on cena. I liked John cena both gimmicks and he had to adjust to the whole pg era like everybody else and the whole good guy cena may not be what people liked but u can say whatever u want it got the job done till he left. Now all those who booed him now want him back y’all make up your minds never know what u got till it’s gone huh
@@spudthegamefreak1627 probably because there isn’t any good wrestlers now, I stopped watching wwe in 2012 but I like to watch the TH-cam videos on it but I remember back then hating cena too cuz he was boring and remember every week watching fans boo him when he came out to the ring.
Roman Reigns could be the next one but currently John Cena is the only one
he_s half the level of cena
@@athul7545 L
@Argha Chowdhury i said about popularity. indians deny that
@@athul7545 you didn't say popular tho you said he's half
I doubt it. WWE doesn’t make megastars anymore because they’re afraid of losing them to Hollywood and their writing makes it hard for people to get over to that level now.
Unpopular opinion, I don’t think wrestling can ever have another megastar. guys like Hulk Hogan, Rick Flair, Stone Cold, the Rock and Cena are already for the most part once in a generation; it takes a special mix of a bunch of different factors for somebody to breakout in that way. But the most important thing, even moreso than characterwork and persona-is Market. The fact of the matter is today’s world just won’t allow somebody to break out I. That way. There’s too much competition in other fields for your eyes. Even as far as combat sports the UFC has become far more individualistic and Star driven. Not to mention stream shows and videogames which have essentially killed cable as a whole. I think even if the Rock and Stone Cold were in their prime, wrestling wouldn’t be as big as it once was. It’s sad, but I think it’s the truth. Hopefully they’ll prove me wrong, I can’t imagine a world where WWE doesn’t exist. Even if I don’t watch it anymore
The business is dissected and expose, it's done with that era of finding the face of WWE.
Wwe trying so hard with roman but new people(viewers) simply dont care enough ...to watch
The truth is...every single time people hear about wrestling or WWE in general, these are names that first come to their mind: Hogan, Austin, Rock, Cena, Undertaker (biggest stars of the company)! And then, if they spend more time watching wrestling, they would probably know and feel in love with Flair, Savage, Warrior, Bret, HHH, HBK, Angle, Lesnar, Orton, Edge, Y2J, 619, Kane,...They're absolute legends.
When i think of wwe cena , khali , taker , rock comed to my mind
Bro first intelligent researched wrestling related video i ve watched in youtube for 5 6 years
The answer is yes he was
@Ranting Philly Fan’s brother you shut up
Whether the smarks wanna admit it or not, Cena is in that class with Hogan, Rock, and Stone Cold.
Mount Rushmore of WWE
A lot of my friends at school don't watch wrestling but they only know 3 wrestlers:
- John Cena
- Randy Orton
- Roman Reigns
So, John cannot be wrestling's final megastar, but however he's without any doubt the biggest megastar
@Vaibhav Rajpurohit I asked them if they watch wrestling and they said no, they only watch it when they find it on TV
@@galaxystar9847 but that means they seen commercials and atleast tuned in for a bit u snitched urself out💀😭
@@imzedic6765 Dafuq?
@@galaxystar9847 re read what u wrote u literally said they watch it when they find it on tv lol
@@imzedic6765 Yes, because they love watching people fighting without even knowing who they are, they'll probably see Seth Rollins and wonder "Is this Roman Reigns?" like they heard of Roman and Orton
You’re video are absolutely amazing and I love the background music.
I haven't watched WWE since early 2014, and was hoping Roman Reigns could develop into "that guy" by now. He has literally been pushed by Cena, CM Punk, Rock, and Lesnar. I was hoping either Daniel Bryan or CM Punk could become the new megastars tbh. Punk was loveable whether he was heel or face, and I believed Bryan could've been the new John Cena - the star that could cater to kids. But we all know how that went...
I feel like CM Punk is one of the only people that can reach those heights organically.
He did, 400+ day reign as a champion, he was on Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon's show before he join the tonight show. The WWE gave up on him because he was hurt and disrespected
Cm punk? lol what!
No
Fuck no.
The only way I think that we can get a new megastar or making Roman have the same popularity as Cena (which is possibly impossible) is by changing era cause if we look in the past most of the megastar defined a era and we still in the PG era that's why everybody thinks of Cena when they hear WWE
Good point but what era could you really go to next?
@@castdreamzentertainment4991 OG Era
Roman will not be a megastar because his push is manufactured and not organic....... Special talent like guy who can carry a company 9/10 are guys no one expect and rise organically
@@khesipresents1885 it's now 7 years on the verge to become a legend and still it's not good.
@@lexkanyima2195 he wont be a megastar whatever wwe throws at him. Problem with wwe is they are putting all their investment on roman and literally no one else....
John cena wasn’t just the face he was the soul of wrestling u just can’t replace that
Yep nobody can fill his shoes
Lol no. He sucked and still sucks.
@@vrixmorr You must have been born right after 2010
@@OgMontana33 no alot of people feel this way
@Dhruv Goel Booman with two characters still suck and forever sucks
Short answer: YES.
He is the last wrestling megastar, I have to say it even though I never liked his career in his prime (pokemon basic moveset, fake-underdog-turns-invincible ala 80s Hogan, too overexposed, etc), he is a bonafide megastar with the IT factor to make his gimmick work (unlike overpushed Roman Reigns).
This situation kinda reminds me of Lex Luger trying to become the next Hulk Hogan but never being able to fill those same boots. Roman has been sent to fill in Cena's position but it's just not working as intended.
**Pretends that Randy Orton doesn't exist**
To be fair, yes he’s a top guy but not a top guy on John Cena’s level. Randy’s one of my favorites and he’s one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. But if you’re gonna make that argument then you’d have to add Brock Lesnar too since he’s a top guy as well. Now my comment connects to *SuperkickStudios* previous video on how under-appreciated Brock Lesnar is. WWE will never have a guy like Brock Lesnar again, just like how they’ll never have a guy as popular as John Cena. If they do, it’ll take a long time to come into play.
Randy orton can be considered as a megastar i guess due to his star power and almost everyone knows him...but his name is not mentioned because he don't do movies and he wants to remain as a wrestler and he himself doesn't care about his popularity nowdays
When I think of 2003-'13 I can think of Cena feuding with Orton, HHH, Edge, CM Punk, Shawn Michaels, Rey Mysterio, Batista......
But these days 🤔
Coming back to Smackdown, I guess it took a major hit in the draft. As it always used to be, most of the major stars were drafted to Raw. Now Roman Reigns is only left with Drew Mcintyre as a major opponent😑 The opponents for Reigns are just drying out.....
There isn't a race, religion, creed, sexual orientation group or ethnicity that John Cena hasn't pandered to
I subbed because this vid is really making me thinking about wwe like how it is now. John cena is awesome but no superstar is going to replace him.
Cena may be the multimedia star and the recognizable icon. But its hard as an adult watcher to really see him as the person people kept tuning in for. Baby faces are great, but they don't go far without heels to boost them up and create drama. Without solid heels like Edge, Orton, and HHH, Cena may not have been able to rise as high as he did. Even his early days weren't really despicable heel actions before he became the shining white knight of the company. We wanted to see if someone could corrupt him, if he could beat someone who seemed dishonestly unbeatable, and who would take a title from him and how they would do it. But people weren't really tuning in to see "what is John Cena gonna do next?" He's gonna talk some clean mouthed smack, lay down the 5 Moves of Death, pose, and be a legitimate surprise if someone beats him clean. Opposed to some of those previously mentioned common heels who were known for exciting segments and gimmicks which could stand alone without a great face- they could be terrible to anyone and we would still watch it.
As for a new mega star, it comes down to management listening to fans. Who is getting the social media attention, who gets the biggest cheers when they come out? Let the fans decide who their favorites are, and push those people because they are what draw ratings and money. Super stars are just people who give the fans what they want and make new people want to see what the hype is about.
The main difference between John Cena and Roman Reigns is that Cena drew to the fans organically while Roman just got shoved down our throat‘s forcefully which was a recipe for disaster. Plus Cena had charisma and a good character which Roman didn’t have at all.
Not even I call bullshit on that statement. fan’s didn’t give Roman a chance from the start. It wasn’t like it was a slow process. No fan’s did that bullshit from the jump. Especially that rumble where he won and All the Indy nerds got mad that DB didn’t win and got eliminated early. Stop the nonsense hell Roman lost more then he won during that time especially when it came to that title picture. Like (OTRS CENTRAL) said on their channel if anything during that time seth was shoved more then Roman yea we all viewed Roman as the bigger star because of presentation. However Seth was the one who won everything during that time from the MITB to 8 1/2 month title reign. Up until his injury but during that time Roman was most beating midcarders and the occasional main eventers. Just to stay in that picture and when he finally got back into the picture with the whole Sheamus situation. Fans were being hypocrites then because they started cheering Roman over Sheamus. But that was short lived until Triple H got in the Picture. Which in theory it sounded like a good idea but with today’s fan it wouldn’t work.
Fan’s didn’t stop their BS until it came out that he had leukemia. And even some fans were still jackass’s to him. It’s just fuckin weird. Not to mention that you have all of the Wrestling social media influencers with large TH-cam channels and other platforms constantly burying the guy to because he didn’t fit a Certain Indy narrative. But I have to be one of the very few and when I say very few I mean small percentage of us Fair non-bias fan’s call out the hypocrisy like this especially sitting back and watching the thing unfold.
It’s pretty much been like that from the get go but i
@@t.styles2k202 Bro it’s not that deep he’s just not as good as Cena.😂
@@mattdog6560 it’s not that deep because you were corrected. However I never said that Roman was a good as Cena I said that the fan’s never gave him a chance to begin with. Stop the nonsense bruh 😂
@@t.styles2k202 roman not good as cena and he will never be... If you wanna cry, go ahead
@@khesipresents1885 can you read???
John is one of the g.o.a.t here's why.. he can make you care about any fued that he's on. his promo skills are amazing his wrestling skills are great he's a draw but most importantly... you can't see him🤣
no but seriously he's one of the last few megastar wrestlers out there he's my favorite wrestler and I hope he returns any time soon.
Roman is the next megastar
@@smir4067 no he’s not
@@dontyurf he is
@@smir4067 nah lol, nobody cares about wwe anymore
@@smir4067 he could be the biggest star of his generation but he can reach the level of John Cena
I think wrestling is definitely dying among the youth and in turn are struggling to generate new fans. It's not just John Cena people recognize. You can mention Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Randy Orton, Kurt Angle, Rey Mysterio or Big Show to anyone and they'll recognize it as a wrestling name. When I was growing up, all the boys would do the DX chops until we got in trouble and a lot of people my age have the same experience.
I don't know if the average kid today really knows who Seth Rollins or Kevin Owens is. WWE is a big brand, but the current shows are unfortunately become more of a niche than a phenomenon.
I'll NEVER understand why Big Show never got the full push he deserved!!!!
@@darnellmajor9016 tbf Big Show was a world champion
@@kelton8852 Okay but his character still didn't go anywhere on a more noticeable level lol It's like he was used to be the ''new Andre the Giant'' and nothing more.
@@darnellmajor9016 okay but during his run there was The Rock, Stone Cold, Lesnar, Undertaker, John Cena, Batista, Chris Jericho, etc. all big main eventers. Considering he got to be in big matches with all of them and be a world champion is an impressive run
1:50 "we're at a time now where we dont see him anymore"
We can't see him anyway
That’s a great point is the viewership over time. Even the rock and stone cold we’re getting bland, and then the new guys came in and picked it back up in 2004, but the product was already set in motion.
Love him or hate him if your a true WWE/wrestling fan. You got to respect him.
Period.
No one can fill Cena's shoes
Austin Theory! 😆
You should do videos on Rey Mysterio and Edge and how impactful they are to the industry too.
now he's back and it showed wrestling fans missed him
you are an excellent narrator. all the best mate
thank you brotha! :)
No one can ever replace JOHN CENA.
Idk why Randy Orton is still not a megastar actor. The guy is literally the whole package of charisma and power.
Booking matters they never book him like brock or cena level
Because he has ridiculous attitude and anger problems and was suspended multiple times
well he's old now
There's NO way they will ever create a star like Taker, John, Rock, Austin, Hogan anymore...
Also guys that can elevate these megastars into bigger heights and become stars themselves... like Bryan, Punk, Orton, Edge, Angle.... I could name many more from the past.
Heart and Michaels also
(coming from someone who hasn't watched wrestling since 2013) I think the only problem is that Reigns needs rivals who are also big/loved in the community. Roman can't grow alone. Like you said earlier, John Cena had people like Randy Orton, CM Punk, Batista, and much more. WWE needs to build up more of the stars so that they can shine together.
There are no other current wrestler in the world much more recognizable than him. I was never his fan as a kid but after a few years, I just realized he carried WWE and he did it brilliantly.
Cena can become like brock's character but brock cannot become cena
Brock is same level as Cena
I more excited to watch Brock rather than cena
Because Brock is badass
Cena is the kids type
Imagine this guy Roman is the superstar now…the standard is set very very low
Even my dad and mom know who John Cena, The Rock and even Randy Orton are. But today's wrestling world is just for hardcore fans. Characters are not pop culture icons anymore. Literally every one of my friends who was a wrestling fan stopped watching it in the past years. They always say the big stars are gone and new wrestlers are not worth watching.
@ I'm waiting for the same bro
Whenever I hear WWE I still think about "AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA DU DU DU DUHH"
Omg a Houdini beat in da background
John Cena made my whole childhood, he was my best friend and I didn't even knew him.
I have friends but John is just simply better 😂😂😂