BEST & HIGHEST DPS THUNDER CAGE BUILD FOR ENDGAME | The First Descendant Ultimate Weapon Guide
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The Ultimate Thunder Cage DPS Build Guide is here! Currently sitting over 500k DPS on the weapon card and can still boost this further with some minor upgrades. The ThunderCage is in my opinion the best overall weapon in The First Descendant. I highly recommend the investment into this weapon.
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How bad is the deminishing returns on this game? You have 93% attack bonus total yet only get 78% final. Crit chance total is only 36.4% even though you have a 39%, an 11% and a 43%, so you're not even getting the % chance the cards are advertising in the first place. I hate when games lie to you like this.
Hey @Chadly99 do you go for Electric Condense to swap out your ultimate or do you stay on the normal one?
I droped it today and find it really really good but it cost a lot of capactiy
How and where you farmed for all those catalyst you used?
Why you have in the passives firearm ATK 12%, i cant get it beyoond 5%
If you use gley with a constant uptime on your infinite ammo. You can use mental focus for a constant 150% firearm atk bonus!!!
150%? Mental Focus gives 0.25% Firearm attack per stack, max 150 stacks.
@@ProMWM Fully upgraded gives 1% per stack
@@ProMWMit’s crazy how people like you don’t know understand that mods get better as you upgrade them 🤯
Nice job man. Thanks for the tips and the great work. I will try to do the same way! Thanks a lot
Thank you so much for these videos ❤
Damn thanks for this! I main bunny and decided to invest in the tamer first because it just seemed like it did more consistent higher damage but I’d much prefer to be using the thunder cage esp on bunny so I will give this a try!
the fact that you have that many green and still cant fit all fully leveled mods is insane.
Cause the modules he chose are all 16 at max level, hard to fit those in haha
Also another thing is he won't have max base possible module capacity till mastery rank 19
How much did he spend on this 😂
@@KILLERBEEssss I wouldn't really say he spent a lot seeing I'm playing f2p and have almost all of the cryz for this set up
@whodat_1782 The amount of time I put in this game I know he definitely put more than a $100 in to this game
DANGGG dude nice damage
The thunder cage reminds me of riskrunner from D2 lol an arc smg with electric shock towards nearby enemies.
I mean as soon as I saw it I thought Fatebringer from Destiny 1, Arc Revolver from VoG with the explode on death
@@BUZZKILL109riskrunner is a destiny 2 exotic smg that does what fatebringer does but better
@@iNefarious Sounds sick. Haven't played D2 so nice to know.
@@iNefariousyeah Riskrunner is nuts, especially in a horde of thrall. Chain lightning everywhere. I don't think Thunder can give it a run for it's money. Thunderlord was my go-to though!
i love to see it. lets make sure that you tell folks that this was a real grind. you went hard on this one. great vid
its not rly hard to grind ...
@@DaxRaiderpls tell me how you are getting a ton of catalyst that it’s not such a grind
@@iNefariousexactly. Either i don't know the farm to get it easy or people are not seeing that he has used at least 8 catalysts to reduce the mod costs.
@@KIRANMSthampi I’m thinking it’s the latter. Cause most people don’t see how much green is on that screen lol
@@iNefarious Yeah true. I checked again and he have used total of 7. 2 slots are already there. 1 is still empty. Man that's a lot of stuff.
And plus you get a free thunder cage from one of the missions from the instructor so you only have to farm for three thunder cages
He explained that in the video already
Been following since BL3 days bro. Keep grinding
Bro needs to like this
currently at 403k with thundercage, getting there!
I've been having good luck with the other 999rpm smg to kill things way above my level with ease, it just needs to reload quite often
hey chadly! i just finished grinding all the leveling. i am in the same spot as you in the video. i think i am going to commit and level one more time to max fire rate concentration. its just hard to pick what i really want for final mod
Love your vids so many streamers are terrible you are top teir can you do the last dagger next its the only gun I like more then this for raw damage so far
Great build
Would be an absolutely insane grind but theoretically, you could grind up another thunder cage to the same point yours is at with polarized slots and such, but polarize that last slot for each element enhancement. Whole other thunder cages for each element and your current setup for non-element lol
module slots are shared on guns of the same name.
@@im_snoopyrs8947 damn youre right i keep forgetting that when im swapping modules to a new gun, im still going through the story
You wouldn't care for it's passive on a boss. You can swap out mod card for different elements or you can get 3 extra guns and roll the other 3 elements on the stats.... but that level of min maxing for 1k element isn't really worth it
@@nipsoffortune4780 Yeah, at that point its probably better to just have a dedicated element in-line with your descendants element, and level multiple descendants to specialize in different bosses.
@@nipsoffortune4780 Every Ultimate weapon actually also comes with a negative stat along with their unique ability that gets reduced by with more upgrades, in Thunder Cage's case using dupes will end up improving its reload speed which would still be helpful for bosses though also still not that important.
I was just about to start Tamer investment, but considering my best reactor has Thunder Cage mounting I think you've swayed me.
Really hate how you have to have the weapon in your hands for the 160% bonus to take effect
@@Walter__Clementsthe rare reactors don’t need you to have the weapon mounted just equipped but has a lower multiplier than a epic.
@@Unknown-pm6hf Yeah that’s why I use those over the yellow right now
Tamer was tweaked. Weakpoint damage modifier nerfed to 1.0 but the crit rate and damage have been buffed. Hopped on and my damage was cut down to about 30%
Worth building crit on it now or still stick with weak and/or just move on to another gun?
@brettlewis2900 if you build crit, you will have to lean heavily into crit rate. It will not be close to the same damage output as before. It's a 10% base crit rate, so if you add 40%, it will only build it to 14% crit rate.
Chill Enhancement is incredible for mob clearing. It freezes everything and adds a ton of damage
its quite good for bossing as well... the "dps" is "nub filter" .. it does not mean much... the multipliers are better of course (as you say). But this thing is not the OP made is not bad :)
Honestly, any Enhancement is better than none, it doesn't show up in the DPS calculator but it should be core on just about every weapon. On this build, I'd probably drop a weak point mod for it since he's already invested so heavily into crit.
@@Tyler.8046weak point damage and crit are multiplicative with each other
@@AcrossTheSea12 they are, but Enhancements are a flat 30% increase in damage based on your firearm atk that can also get a boost from matching a bosses weakness. Uncertain if that damage can crit or is affected by weak point though.
ill try firing fiesta build soon,good dps also man,for expand mag 1 bullet give u 4k dps point,for elemetal att mod i found not too high increasing dps overall,and off course when we compare TC and Tamer ,Tamer won,but TC much more versatille for all content depend on the mod setup u can even dps race with tamer, I THINK
My highest crit with thunder cage so far is a orange for 300k with only 2 polars and increases max 80 capacity, also less crit damage on your build and more weak point damage, and you will eventually need a dedicated element build that you swap between elements for bossing for late game builds, honestly pretty happy with them allowing you to get this gun early and upgrade it for minimum investment to be helpful on 4 man squads. If your interested though to theory craft I do have a better build with less investment, so..
show your build or didnt happen
@@brochador3309 There are a lot of things not covered in this video that make this doable. #1 is elemental weaknesses, not running an elemental enhancement module slot because it doesn't increase tooltip DPS is leaving free damage on the floor, its more damage than any other singular mod will add, particularly against targets that are "very weak" to that element. Enemies and Boss weakpoints also have a damage type weakness to crush/pierce/burst damage depending on the type of weapon you are using. With the right element on the right gun against the right enemy/weakpoint you can easily be doing 4-5x more damage compared to fighting a bad combination. Damage numbers will also be higher on lower level targets with lower defense values.
best video for thunder cage ive seen 👍
Will u make a tamer build vid
very cool little breakdown on the thundercage you've modded. but also wow there are a lot of bot comments haha. Question from me, I'm busy farming the wave of light because I like scout rifles, do you think this weapon is a decent choice? It's supposedly got a high potential dmg. I will be farming up thundercage's unique ability thanks to your vid !
Ryechews released a video with a spreadsheet that has all weapon dps breakdown that you can check out to look for what weapons will scale well etc
@@t0mbr1d Thank you sir.
Dude i had this gun crafted before i even hit level 30 on bunny. Pretty sure when you do normal bunny quest it procs a quest with the robot dude in albion
my friend is at 493k with only 200% crit multiplier and 39% crit rate. And he still has 3 more levels to go on chill enhancement module
it goes to 550k if he equips the ammo blue module
The elements is amazing on bosses and overall, it does not show on the dps card so dont pay much attention to that.
I will say having an element mod would greatly increase the damage because it is an extra instance of damage that is based on your total damage. So i don't really see the fire rate mod being worth the slot.
soo double weakpoint damage and no element is stronger then having the right element for the appropriate coloss?
It's always the first gun that's the best gun lol. I can't believe most of my friends didn't bother using it until they saw how easy I cleared dense mobs with the AOE.
super video bro
Fun fact: all of the mod symbols, "triangle", "star", triple bars" etc. are latters: A,C,M,X and R. First letter of their full name :)
Ultimate bunny fully min maxed with thunder cage fully min max is the most satisfying thing in the game
Make sure you add the cost of all the catalysts you used to achieve this
Nice video, i love that weapon, i see a symbol of electric dmg on your hits but i don't see it on my game, si something that you activated it in the options?
he has electric damage as one of the 4 bonuses you get with an ultimate weapon
Gameplay > Damage Display Options > Weapon/Skill Damage Details
You don't want to use Expanded Weapon Charge because of how accuracy bloom works on Thunder Cage. You'll be missing many of those shots with full reticle bloom. Better to maximize reload rate to offset the penalty from Concentration Priority.
I used consume magazines, you think that’s the best option instead ?
Right now my favorite gun in the game is the Tamer it’s just too good.
That weak point damage is so good, it's almost evil
Ryechews (Math dude) said fire rate is 2nd most important mod after Rifling Reinforcement. Any adjustments for that that would make the build stronger for a Thunder Cage?
If u use a catalyst u can max out all slots
6.026x crit damage is insane.
The more crit multiplier you have the more worth it is losing firearm ATK for crit chance
I have something similar whit 3 changes, i use Electric enhancement, instead of Weak poin sight as thundercage beeing a 1x weak point base weapon it's not that good on it, instead of the purple fire rate mod i use the 25% blue one, and the last change i did is instead of extended magazine i put real life fighter for when i use it whit bunny as i i can get real close whit her and menthal focus when i use it on Gley, and as mods on the weapon are crit rate, crit dmg, firearm atk% and electro dmg, i decided im going to make 1 specific weapon of each element, im finishing Enduring Legacy as mi fire dmg weapon, and still thinking what to make for toxic and frost.
Really prefer to see free to make builds, as this amount of firms is epic tbh
I only used 2 catalysts and my gun is at 430k dps! So you can get way higher than what he's at!
I haven’t even beat the normal mode yet. Stuck on the devourer colossi. I’ve been hesitant to use my free energy activator on a weapon without knowing what weapon was worth it. Looks like I use it on the thunder cage.
Run it solo, if you haven’t. I was getting frustrated with matchmaking and ran it solo with Bunny and a Tamer.
Weapon mods were a max level Fire Rate Up, level 9 Rifling Reinforcement, level 4 Weak Point Sight, level 1 Action and Reaction.
Good luck!
@@Chris-wu2hc I’m not really having problems surviving. Mostly when the boss goes into frenzy mode I can’t kill the three nodes quick enough and he ends up regen all his health and shields so I fail by running out of time. I’ll try the tamer. Lots of people say it’s op and probly will be nerfed so I’ll use it and see.
I hate that it takes all slots to be fully polarized to fit in all mods.
Cant even switch elements or make different builds like this.
This build is pretty shit. Ignore it. Using elemental damage is so much better than whatever this guy is doing.
@@FlashesSoccer011 Doesnt matter even if you mod for elemental damage you could only use 1 sinse the polarities are different for each element.
Fun fact with the blue fire rate mod - 25% increased fire rate. Its incorrect its actually 33.33% increase so please remove the purple asap
i noticed you have alot of cc applied to your thunder cage, may i ask where you farmed to get the weapon proficiency levels in between?
takes 1 hour to get 1-40 in spec ops defend missions
@@InvestInJoe i know that, i was hoping there was a faster method, i hate sitting there and re leveling
@@d4v0824 I just put all the best firearm exp mods on I can and go in there 🫡
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Hey question for you, mines 571k DPS 56.5 crit rate 203 crit damage and it don’t crit for more than 70k what am I doing wrong
Can you make a video how did you farm so fast the item that add logo to the module on the gun ?
Go to the shop, buy them - that's how.
Do the campaign and complete quests they literally throw them at you.
If you’re way past that takes no more then a few hours to have one crafting daily.
If you cannot manage that become a beta and pay through the game. Lmao..
@@H3llo993they just give 1 lol , in trying to find the fastest method to farm this
@@iCHRIS-x the fact you think you only get one and dislike my previous answers, suggests this type of game isn’t for you.
Whats your enzo and other gun builds
Go for max shield on Enzo (3 cards max) and cooldown reduction, duration. Makes your 3rd ability very strong and provides a lot of ammo for your 4th ability
Do you have a enzo build?
Mine thunder cage does 631k DPS
try this all maxed out
Better concentration
Fire rate up
Insight focus
Reload focus
Action and reaction
Rifling reinforcement
Recycling genius
concentration priority
Expand weapon charge
And for weapons readjustment
Firearm critical hit damage 32%
Electric ATK 927
Bonus rirearm ATK colossus 1,420
Firearm ATK 11,1%
Very overpowered
I’ve been stuck on hard exe I can’t get the solo and teammates makes it more difficult any tips or and way u could help
Mainly get better characters like Gley, Ajax and Enzo depending on your issue with the boss Gley for dmg, Ajax for suvivability and Enzo for ammo hunger. Match your elements and overall don't give up. Give some meta weapons a try (Maybe don't invest in them too much yet). Remember the Modules like HP, Def and resistances. Stay close to the boss. That's about as much advice as we can give honestly and most importantly don't give up.
@@luckylunch3256 no worries man I solos them up to obstructer now my problem was my thunder cage didn’t have enough dps and my bunny was 6k hp lower after I changed that it’s a walk in the walk
Trade “Have Aim” for “Real Life Fighter”? - Love your content since ball lightning D4 a lil while back ❤️🍀
I still don’t have 500k I’m sitting at 456k fully followed and realigned talents am I missing something? Maybe that crit rate I have bonus to colossus purple, firearm gold, crit damage gold…
I have done the first mission where you supposedly have a 20% drop rate for the crafting component about 50 times now and haven't been able to get the part to drop again. Is there some reason it might not drop? Do I have lower my level or do it on a different descendant?
Nah just bad luck
@@delischeslp6109 did another 20 runs today and still no drop.
ok.tnx . now someone please advise what is the green secret at the top of each module Also this guy upgraded each module 16 times ??????? some of them 8 some of them 7 but when you see in left side of each module all of them fully upgraded ??!?!?!?!?!?How should the modules be arranged so that the number above the antennas turns green and we can upgrade each module completely.i think this green number very important ????????????????????????????
Maybe a noob question. But how do you get to upgrade the modules without going over the max module capacity?
Did you focus on your gun first or descendent I don’t know where to put my first activator
I slapped one on my descendant of choice to start (Lepic). As you need the space for HP and defence as well as building into your skills for the later stages of normal game. once you close in on level 100 is when you should look to improve your guns imo.
Your guns can hold up very well with just a few ranked mods for all of the normal game, in hard mode its needed much more.
Right now I have an activator and 3 catalysts on my thundercage and the difference is huge for hard mode. iirc you will be given another activator for free after you complete the normal modes
Generally, I recommend focusing descendants over weapons since there are so many different varieties with weapons while the character pretty much stays the same across the board. This makes it easier to design a build for a character over a single weapon. However, Thunder Cage is probably the one gun I would 100% invest in right now since it is just so strong for add clear, damage, and just a great weapon to use one every character. Likes there's almost no reason to not run it for everything
How do you get the base dmg to be 100k+? Mine is level 100 but only at a little over 85k base dmg
My cage is 627k Dps and lays down any hard enemy and avgs 25-30 million on any Hard boss..
what are ur upgrades ?
how come i can only put 9 moldules on it and you can put 10?
Where can i find edging shot general rounds mod?
Hey, short question. I reset my Thunder Cage 3 time an now i only have 75 mod slots. Bevor i have 80... How this work? Thanks for any hints.
Mastery level gives some
This is amazing setup and thanks for the end game tips.
I am still at the beginning phase, got 2 thunder cage(TC) through missions, used one to buff the skill of the original TC.
I am still sitting the original TC at level 1, should I really save materials and wait till level 100 for enhancement? Also the 4 passives are all low level and rubbish, if I level up the TC, I am still getting the lv1 percentages, how does that work please? Any guides will be super appreciated, thanks in advance!
yes save your materials until you get a level 100 weapon because everything you find will be better than your tc until late game
what if I told you that you can reach 450k dps with only 1 green? (2 are already included so 3 total)
Could you please elaborate more on how to do such thing
@@exo4tic698 better insight green, rifling ench green, reload insight green, fire rate up, better concentration, action and reaction, fatal critical. You also need good rolls and an energy activator.
Gameranx?
Does the DPS level go up as the proficiency goes up?. The reason I'm asking is, mine is Prof 22 and the DPS is 306, that's the main reason I haven't been using it.
You can upgrade your weapon dps with another weapon for really cheap in albion
Mines level 40 with 21,000 dps
Yeah all ultimate weapons start at level 1, so you’d need to infuse it with a higher level weapon you already have to get the better DPS
profiency only affects the module capacity as far as i know . (until you have enough Mastery EXP to already have max slots on a lvl 1/ same goes with releveling descendants) which i believe is rank 20?
I would replace rifling reinforcement with real life figther mod
Crazy you have used 9 crystallization charge things to reset its mastery 9 times and then leveled it back to 40 for the mod socket “polarity”. 9 times. OMG
My god. That’s crazy. Impressive stuff yall gamers are nuts.
It has two baseline so unless he changed some max would be 8.
@@blackyvertigo8 or 7?
@@cardeccia if he didn’t change the polarity on the two that come with the weapon the max he’s going to use on it is 8.
probably a stupid question here, but how can the weapon only have 36 % crit rate if you have +39 % with better insight and +49 % with edging shot?
i think it is 39% , 49% of the base crit value that gets added. getting a 100% crit rate would basically be another 20% added to the base 20% of the thundercage (awful confusing desing imo). but dont ask me how they calculate shit "like MP regen 0.089" thats behond my small brain
I agree, not the must intuitive system i've seen
Can’t upgrade mine it says I don’t have any to meet the conditions??
If you’re talking about the unique ability enhancement, you need another thunder cage to improve the thunder cage’s unique ability.
@@gt800 no I know I did that already but I never leveled it up yet it’s still level 1 and says that I don’t have any weapons that meet the conditions. Do I maybe need to enhance another weapon and then I’ll be able to use that to enhance the thunder cage? I’m level 40 and beat the story already don’t know what I’m missing?
@@ESTalesTyrone oh, interesting. All it should take to enhance is another weapon and a precision phase exchanger.
When farming for the parts for the gun can u get 4 of each part then craft or do you have to craft 1 gun then farm 1 set of parts and craft again?
You can get multiple of each, it's how I did it. Can only craft 1 at a time though.
and i cant even get activator blueprint so i can upgrade weapon
is there a site that has where a certain mod drops?
use the access info menu to find what u need and where to get it.
For some of the modules the number is red, how do i change that?
Up your module capacity or use cryst catalysts
If I'm understanding you correctly it means that those modules have a polarity(the symbol next to the module cost) that doesn't match the slot they're in. If a module doesn't match the slot, it doubles the cost, whereas it halves it if it matches. You can tell the polarity of the slot by removing the module from it and looking at the symbol in the middle of the slot.
How do your mods cost less then mine action and reaction cost 16 slots full upgraded yours says 8?
you need to install a crystallization catalyst
yeah he reset his weapon 7times and releveled it up. actually madman
@@Teufel9000 I just finished doing that myself today. Took 2 days just to level it 7 times
Pumping up the dps number isn't the best thing to do. My 400k TC is doing far more per bullet dmg without inflating the dps number. Increasing the reload time increasing your cycle time what decreases your dps overall.
Dumb question but before I use my precision phase exchanger on my thunder cage to begin building it out in the first place, now that I'm in hard mode, is there a specific submachine gun/damge number I should go for to model my thunder cage out for?
5 greens, 3 maxed mods, and I'm hitting 62k per bullet, orange damage, 90k headshot orange damage. My DPS is 282k. DPS is always wrong, stop using it! Also when using laboratory, the numbers aren't right either. Drop the bullet dam by 10-20% for accurate numbers.
I got mine to 516, I'm contempt with it
Content in the word you mean. ;)
Now theres no balls, these missions are a thousand times easier.
10:57 how do you change the type of slot on a gun?
Once a gun hits max proficiency (level 40) you can use a Crystallization catalyst to reset the level in return for being able to assign a new socket type. You do this from the module menu of the weapon/descendent you want to enhance, then additional module settings
@@MantisXShadowCan you pick the same shape twice?
@@MantisXShadower socket, whatever it’s called - the thing that reduces how many module slots it costs
@@jeremiahthatcher4940 If you wanted, you could fill your gun/descendant will nothing but M sockets. You can use the same shape as many times as you wish, and any combination of shapes.
Where did you farmed all of those code breakers i am strugglin with those, cant seem to find a place where its dropped easily? or how much you payed for each that many activators?
$$$$$ will take months or years for a free2play person to do a weapon like this
@@overoula I'm free to play, and I have a similar load out after 100 hours in the game.
Any mission that has a lot of mobs like ambush point or nuclear reactor
That sterile lands Ambush mission everyone farms drops em pretty consistently
@@overoulathat build will take you not even 1 week
You can reload cancel the thunder cage do disregard reload time further
how ?
@@azrulzughairi894 when the reload bar under your reticle start to fill , shoot your grappling hook into the sky. Works after 25 percent of the bar fills
I haven't upgraded anything except when required by a quest. I'm running all random weapons til they're maxed out in order to increase my Mastery Rank.
thunder cage without fire rate maxed out is not a thunder cage
I am using tamer with normal Damage, firerate, critrate, critdmg and the best part is 3 mods with elemental dmg which surprisingly doubled my damage
does farming more guns to combine boost the base dmg of the gun any? or just the special mod
My tamer has +3100 damage to Colossus. It can roll higher.
Not sure on this but i believe you may be shadow banned in youtube. Found one of your videos by accident from my account at work, and was very interested on looking at the videos more carefully, so i kinda memorized the title topic and your name. Went to my personal account after work and tried to look for your videos and no matter the way i typed the search i was unable to find you, i search using so many different words, from "the first descendant", modules, guide, etc... and there was no way to find you, had to wait until today to use my work account and check at my view story to find you again, this time i saved the link of your video so now i can watch your channel from my personal account...
What did you do to deserve this? xD, anyway i liked your videos, keep it up
Level 100 and 9 formas in that thing... how many hours do u guys already have wtf...
Currently 60 hours got like 6 formas so far. He probably played over 200 hours.
@@YaBoiTogashiover 200 hours on a game that released 9 days ago? So you’re saying my man has only 1.75 hours a day to sleep and eat and toilet etc? Use your brain
@@tompearson9738 I have done 72 hours with no sleep before. I played with this guy scoobadoo (Thailand Neet) he played 165hours straight finished all hard modes just pretty much making a better build. Man didn’t sleep was on discord since launch. 4got about downtime.
@@tompearson9738 he only needs 2 hours sleep by theory you need 2 rem cycles. His toilet and food is in his flat. He lives 2 mins away from the plaza gets food instantly. Lambea another player went 140 hours straight with sleep
How have you farmed enough for at least 9 catalysts in the time the games been out? Assuming you used some on your descendant as well and they take 7 hours to craft after farming the mats. Guessing you can buy them in the shop or something?
does leveling up the thunder cage overcharge ability higher the chances of explosion after killing enemy?
Just so u know python blows thunder cage out the water so yeah
soloed bosses using which char
its definitely not the highest DPS ( thats situational ), but in general its good, if your playing Viessa your better off with less mag and adding chill & snowflake conductor and running the polar set from hard bride, if we are talking sheet dps, most i can get out of it is over 603k
ye the best build is defo not highest sheet dps