The only players doing something wrong were the ones using multiple copies of the same weapon. There were quite a few promoting that strategy and even more falling victim to this misinformation.
The best way is to do anything that brings you gold and kuiper at the same time, even if it’s twice longer. Going after fast exp alone is not smart nor productive.
@@kazokadasthe best way to play this type of game is to make progress on multiple fronts at the same time. Unless you wanna burn yourself out and be bored while doing it. If that's your preference or you can deal with the burn out then sure go ahead and focus on one thing.
@@kazokadas You’re completely missing the point. It is smarter and more productive to combine farms, and sacrifice some weapon exp to get materials you will need at the same time. Otherwise you’ll level up your guns for hours, then have to go farm gold and Kuiper separately later, and the time spent doing those two different farms will be higher than doing a farm that gives you less weapon exp but all 3 at once in the first place. Are you at a point where you will never need resources again? Didn’t think so.
If you want weapon xp or descendant xp look to your power modules and the other 4 modules. If you find any with the firearm/descendant xp gains equip as many have access to. You also get keiper shard drop rate and module drop rate, so the enemies drop more kieper and modules. These extra modules can be be dismantled for even more keiper to upgrade the modules you want so when you find new gear for you descendant just check what traits they have before dismantling em. Instead of farming missions to get kieper or char xp or weapon proficiency you could be farming legendary materials instead with more char xp gain, more mod drop chance, more weapon profiency and more kieper drop chance. You can even get some of those gear pieces with 2 of the 4 traits i mentioned so stacking em up makes the grind even easier and a lot less time consuming as you can have all 4 much needed resources and ex gains without neccesesarily having to target missions that only reward in large amounts 1 or 2 of these.
Power modules and the other 4 modules? Do you mean Reactor and Components? If so, rolling those for EXP bonuses is just a waste of time. 0.247x exp gain even in stacked on every component and the reactor would still need thousands of hours of playtime to gain any benefit that's even noticeable.
@Anedime that's a 24.7% buff, they mix the buff numbers between % and decimal, so it can be confusing. So your reactor with 0.08x skill power is actually an 8% buff
One thing i like to do is when i get a daily mission for something like Special round kills or Impact round kills i will equip a weapon that i have not touched yet to get a few levels on it while i complete that mission
Good info. I've been curious about this since I've kept one copy of every weapon specifically to level for mastery rank. Good to know just throw some junks in there when you get the chance to level them. :)
Whoever said “equip 3 of the same weapon” to level them up is not paying attention in the game…Of course 3 of the same weapons appear like they level up faster because 3 of the same weapons level up at the same time, weapons of the same kind (for example a Tamer mg) ALL LEVEL UP AT THE SAME TIME!!! To be clear, if you get a Tamer and you level up that exact Tamer to level 40…EVERY additional Tamer that drops for you in game will already be level 40. To be extra clear, we are talking “proficiency lvl’s NOT weapon levels that you increase by transmission at a work bench.
One reason to have same three weapon is that, when you swap, you’re still using the same gun. Since you’re doing mindless grinding, you cant get it wrong.
Kingston Defense mission gives boosted XP, but with like 73 guns, will get boring going over the same thing endlessly. The other spec ops missions don't give boosted XP gain.
Nice too see you n moxy still playing games , I used yours n moxys borderlands builds , I'll defo be checking out your channels for new builds on this game 🎉
You... didnt test the Sensor's Firearm proficiency gain to understand how it applies? Does it apply to teammate kills/skill kills/stowed weapons? Is it a flat "X% increase" or is it additive with like monster level xp increase decreasing the actual amount of xp gained from using it?
There is probably also a question about the distance you have to be to receive xp from teamates, so far as I've seen ypu have to be only a few meters away otherwise you dont get it.
Can you test this for gold and kuiper drops. Like the misinformation about weapon leveling people also say getting tags* on enemies or killing them yourself effects gold and kuiper and item drops vs not being apart of the kill and getting less
You did not test the Firearm profiency xp from external components....especially when you get the components if the one is blue the ultimate stat always is buffed up...
what if you are far from you team? do u still get the exp? i level up my characters and guns sa,e stage in this video and i stay behind and defend when im not using bunny.
Thank you. I was playing this like Warframe. Luckily, I just started playing a few days ago, so I havent lost that much mastery, but still a pretty significant amount.
using 4 valbys in the “new” method, i was able to lvl up my Afterglow sword to level 40 in 13 minutes from level 1. got it completely catalystd out in under 2 hours
The weekly quest of 5000 kills with "thunder cage equiped" seems like it has to be done with the weapon itself, not just with skills. The season quest of 200.000 kills has to be your kills, team kills dont work.
Ooook and? The video is about exp you earn while trying to level up your weapon. Has nothing to do with a quest or seasonal ranks. I've reached seasonal level 110 without even reading a single quest - by just playing the game normally. So why would anyone care for quests lol
@maliceandice609 I did. He did not do this specific scenario. It looked like it was going to be this test before that bunny killed something with the thundercage but afterwards he only mentioned the 20% gained for the holstered weapon. He didn't see if there was a difference between 1 and 2 of the same weapon holstered that were different from the active weapon.
Fastest way I have done is use bunny 🐰 utensils the leveling weapon in and do the void fracture in the cabe in Fortress use nothing but bunnies skills and it levels it faster most of the xp goes to one you have out to use
Your weapons level organically as you play. How in the world can you do it "wrong?" It seems like every video made about this game is telling us we're screwing something up. It's gotten very old, very fast
Because of to watch the video he talks about the claims people were making such as having the same weapon equipped at the same time giving more experience for the weapon you were trying to level. There's a lot of people doing that very thing and still telling people to do it. By doing so you are in fact doing it wrong because it does literally nothing to help you level that gun faster and infact makes you gain less overall weapon XP that could have gone to passively leveling 2 other different weapons... Meaning of you were out are still doing these things to "help level faster" you are in fact screwing something up...
Got like 5 guns done today just spinning in circles with valby with my guns in my pocket.. 8 million gold and 1.5 million shards. Couple hours worth of time at best. Valby is dumb broken lol
experience gained is split between anything you have equipped that can still gain exp. you gain bonus exp for killing the enemies with each weapon, so if you dont use a weapon for an entire run it will receive exp but not as much as the weapon/weapons you used to kill everything. the same applies to killing enemies with Descendant abilities, if you only use your abilities to kill your descendant will receive the bulk of the exp.
Brooo just do the research off camera, then make a 2 minute video telling us the answers, nobody wants to listen to you think just to find out it was a waste of time
Funny the video was made, had an Ajax mad that my U. Bunny was getting nearly 90% of all the kills om the Kingston Defense mission. Ended up doing the solo to 21 waves tho
If you saw the first version of this video, no you didnt :) Thank you to Moxsy for helping me test things!
I seen it 😅
"He is gonna kill WITH THE THUNDER CAGE!" I laughed so hard HAHAHAHAH
@@Chadly99 really?
ya we saw nothing XD
Moxsy messing up the testing with the Thunder Cage is hilarious 😂
So basically....pretty much no one was actually leveling their weapon wrong?
The only players doing something wrong were the ones using multiple copies of the same weapon. There were quite a few promoting that strategy and even more falling victim to this misinformation.
@@hieroglyph3027 Pretty wild considering it's one of the easiest things in the game to test
@@hieroglyph3027 Sadly i was one of them, tomorrow when the fing streamer i got that from hes gona hear it from me.
@@kazokadasYou'd think, logically, that wouldnt fly in the slightest.
The best way is to do anything that brings you gold and kuiper at the same time, even if it’s twice longer. Going after fast exp alone is not smart nor productive.
Yep I was grinding the the wave mission to level 10 then switched too kuiper mine for xp , gold , kuiper , and dismantling materials
I mean, this is wrong. The best way to get gun xp is still the best way to get gun xp, regardless of how much gold and kuiper you get.
@@kazokadasexactly.
@@kazokadasthe best way to play this type of game is to make progress on multiple fronts at the same time.
Unless you wanna burn yourself out and be bored while doing it. If that's your preference or you can deal with the burn out then sure go ahead and focus on one thing.
@@kazokadas You’re completely missing the point. It is smarter and more productive to combine farms, and sacrifice some weapon exp to get materials you will need at the same time. Otherwise you’ll level up your guns for hours, then have to go farm gold and Kuiper separately later, and the time spent doing those two different farms will be higher than doing a farm that gives you less weapon exp but all 3 at once in the first place. Are you at a point where you will never need resources again? Didn’t think so.
If you want weapon xp or descendant xp look to your power modules and the other 4 modules. If you find any with the firearm/descendant xp gains equip as many have access to. You also get keiper shard drop rate and module drop rate, so the enemies drop more kieper and modules. These extra modules can be be dismantled for even more keiper to upgrade the modules you want so when you find new gear for you descendant just check what traits they have before dismantling em. Instead of farming missions to get kieper or char xp or weapon proficiency you could be farming legendary materials instead with more char xp gain, more mod drop chance, more weapon profiency and more kieper drop chance. You can even get some of those gear pieces with 2 of the 4 traits i mentioned so stacking em up makes the grind even easier and a lot less time consuming as you can have all 4 much needed resources and ex gains without neccesesarily having to target missions that only reward in large amounts 1 or 2 of these.
Power modules and the other 4 modules? Do you mean Reactor and Components? If so, rolling those for EXP bonuses is just a waste of time. 0.247x exp gain even in stacked on every component and the reactor would still need thousands of hours of playtime to gain any benefit that's even noticeable.
@Anedime that's a 24.7% buff, they mix the buff numbers between % and decimal, so it can be confusing. So your reactor with 0.08x skill power is actually an 8% buff
Advice for your channel: Myth Busting series, i can see it being quite successful and informative
The First Descendant TDT. lol
1. Get a Valby
2. Equip 3 weapons
3. Run in cricles for 30 minutes
Voila 3 max ranks
This guy gets it.
Did they nerf the Valby farm? I know they were talking about it.
@@tirrelljoyner3432 was doing it earlier today, not nerfed in my opinion
There's a better one with bunny rn in echo swamp
Great video. Thanks for testing it out.
And obviously you can always equip gear with Weapon Proficiency trait to speed it up when you are farming.
One thing i like to do is when i get a daily mission for something like Special round kills or Impact round kills i will equip a weapon that i have not touched yet to get a few levels on it while i complete that mission
Good info. I've been curious about this since I've kept one copy of every weapon specifically to level for mastery rank. Good to know just throw some junks in there when you get the chance to level them. :)
Whoever said “equip 3 of the same weapon” to level them up is not paying attention in the game…Of course 3 of the same weapons appear like they level up faster because 3 of the same weapons level up at the same time, weapons of the same kind (for example a Tamer mg) ALL LEVEL UP AT THE SAME TIME!!!
To be clear, if you get a Tamer and you level up that exact Tamer to level 40…EVERY additional Tamer that drops for you in game will already be level 40.
To be extra clear, we are talking “proficiency lvl’s NOT weapon levels that you increase by transmission at a work bench.
one thing I want to know is: at what range does the xp shared from an ally killing an enemy stop
I'd assume its instance wide (when in a party/group), based on the AFKer's people have been complaining about
I'm guessing as far as you can see the name tag, so about 100 meters maybe
One reason to have same three weapon is that, when you swap, you’re still using the same gun. Since you’re doing mindless grinding, you cant get it wrong.
Does not matter what slot they are in, just which is active.
Kingston Defense mission gives boosted XP, but with like 73 guns, will get boring going over the same thing endlessly. The other spec ops missions don't give boosted XP gain.
Nice clean tests, good job!
Thank you so much. I got that questions around my mind. Now have been all cleared.
Nice too see you n moxy still playing games , I used yours n moxys borderlands builds , I'll defo be checking out your channels for new builds on this game 🎉
I don’t know why people complain. It’s extremely easy.. this game. Everything is practically handed to you.
I agree , this game gives you a free descendant and ultimate weapon 😂
@@MrRico-b2t I mean it’s so easy to get almost everything
Nice, I was wondering about this myself, thanks, now I know when I am running around on bunny I should be holding my heavy weapon
Just beware, the heavy weapons modify your move speed.
Ty for the info man you saved me a many more a bunch of time lvling up weapons. So the equip 3 of the same weapon was just a bunch a bullcrap.
Was watcing Moxsy when he ran into you testing this. Thanks for doing the work
You... didnt test the Sensor's Firearm proficiency gain to understand how it applies? Does it apply to teammate kills/skill kills/stowed weapons? Is it a flat "X% increase" or is it additive with like monster level xp increase decreasing the actual amount of xp gained from using it?
Do weapons earn XP on mission completion? Or only kills?
This video is the most informative I've seen thanks
you can go from 1 to 30ish on a weapon in less then a hour doing the 21 defense waves as bunny on main weapon then 20ish on off weapons
There is probably also a question about the distance you have to be to receive xp from teamates, so far as I've seen ypu have to be only a few meters away otherwise you dont get it.
hadnt even thought of only having one equipped or 3 of the same . . luckily
Tyvm! This vid answered all my questions about leveling weapons! Its very similar to warframe but not exact which i thought it was exactly like wf!
Can you test this for gold and kuiper drops. Like the misinformation about weapon leveling people also say getting tags* on enemies or killing them yourself effects gold and kuiper and item drops vs not being apart of the kill and getting less
Thanks for making this perfectly straight and undeniable !
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally found some one who shows the test and results. Thanks for the data. Follow for sure
wait, so the slot you put the weapon in matters and not just whether you're actively holding it or not?
the one your actively holding gets full XP , the other two slots get 20% of that
You did not test the Firearm profiency xp from external components....especially when you get the components if the one is blue the ultimate stat always is buffed up...
what if you are far from you team? do u still get the exp? i level up my characters and guns sa,e stage in this video and i stay behind and defend when im not using bunny.
Thank you. I was playing this like Warframe. Luckily, I just started playing a few days ago, so I havent lost that much mastery, but still a pretty significant amount.
using 4 valbys in the “new” method, i was able to lvl up my Afterglow sword to level 40 in 13 minutes from level 1. got it completely catalystd out in under 2 hours
What happens if your main weapon is max proficiency does the other weapons still only get 20% xp?
Yes. I do 5 runs today on max thundercage and level other weapons in second slot.
Rhats what I figured but they don't get the max exp unless you have them in hand got it
Excellent. I was doing this without the need of this video.
"HE'S GONNA KILL ONE WITH THE THUNDER CAGE!"
The weekly quest of 5000 kills with "thunder cage equiped" seems like it has to be done with the weapon itself, not just with skills.
The season quest of 200.000 kills has to be your kills, team kills dont work.
Ooook and? The video is about exp you earn while trying to level up your weapon. Has nothing to do with a quest or seasonal ranks.
I've reached seasonal level 110 without even reading a single quest - by just playing the game normally. So why would anyone care for quests lol
I assume just like Warframe if descendant is max and bring 1 max weapon and 1 lv 1 weapon use max weapon all the time
Another no bullshit video, thank you 🎉
What is the solve for ammunition?
I thought the operations distributes weapon exp at the end between the 3 slots apon completeing the run. Giant possibility im wrong lol
I have been doing the Valby shard farm and my weps have been maxing very quickly
Do you get more xp if you have the the same weapon stored? (ie different active weapon but with 2 holster weapons that are the same)
he went over this, did you not watch the video?
@maliceandice609 I did. He did not do this specific scenario. It looked like it was going to be this test before that bunny killed something with the thundercage but afterwards he only mentioned the 20% gained for the holstered weapon. He didn't see if there was a difference between 1 and 2 of the same weapon holstered that were different from the active weapon.
Next Q. Assuming other sources of XP (other than kills) exist, does some percentage of that XP go toward proficiency? Like.. mission completion XP?
If wanting to level anything up. Defence missions
Do the weapon proficiency stat on external components help?
I got 39 more xp with a .171 modifier
Absolutely great video, thank you greatly.
Great info mate!
Step 1) Unlock Valby
Step 2) Mod Valby
Step 3) equip any weapons that need leveling in the weapon slots
Step 4) Go Gold farm
Fastest way I have done is use bunny 🐰 utensils the leveling weapon in and do the void fracture in the cabe in Fortress use nothing but bunnies skills and it levels it faster most of the xp goes to one you have out to use
Thank you for the video Sir...
Your weapons level organically as you play. How in the world can you do it "wrong?" It seems like every video made about this game is telling us we're screwing something up. It's gotten very old, very fast
Because of to watch the video he talks about the claims people were making such as having the same weapon equipped at the same time giving more experience for the weapon you were trying to level. There's a lot of people doing that very thing and still telling people to do it. By doing so you are in fact doing it wrong because it does literally nothing to help you level that gun faster and infact makes you gain less overall weapon XP that could have gone to passively leveling 2 other different weapons... Meaning of you were out are still doing these things to "help level faster" you are in fact screwing something up...
thank u for these tests
TLDR: just equip weapons that arent level 40 to level them. mounted wepaon gains more than other 2.
I feel like my xp and weapon xp goes up faster on defense missions. anyone else seeing that?
im already at mastery rank 20
Nice video good info
Do the vulby farm in fortress your weapons lvl real fast
Go Valby run, its the best XP both in weapon and character right now as well as farming gold and Kuiper's.
The best way right now is valby fortress hands down
hated the clickbait-y title....liked the research in the video....nice job
doing god's work
Got like 5 guns done today just spinning in circles with valby with my guns in my pocket.. 8 million gold and 1.5 million shards. Couple hours worth of time at best. Valby is dumb broken lol
Thank you
thanks guys
I have no idea where people get all the weird ideas from
Well in Warframe, if u unequip everything other than the one weapon, all of the exp actually does get funneled to that 1 gun
That’s how warframe do it, so I can understand why ppl think it would work on here
experience gained is split between anything you have equipped that can still gain exp. you gain bonus exp for killing the enemies with each weapon, so if you dont use a weapon for an entire run it will receive exp but not as much as the weapon/weapons you used to kill everything. the same applies to killing enemies with Descendant abilities, if you only use your abilities to kill your descendant will receive the bulk of the exp.
Whoops
Fastest weapon level up. Slap it on bunny and run like hell. 😉
Good to know 👌
here we go....
Brooo just do the research off camera, then make a 2 minute video telling us the answers, nobody wants to listen to you think just to find out it was a waste of time
Copycat video I saw yesterday Good for your subscribers living under a rock.
I heard no mods get more xp. Mods don't matter
absolute pointless clickbait video. unsubbed
so you're the one that took my name then huh
Funny the video was made, had an Ajax mad that my U. Bunny was getting nearly 90% of all the kills om the Kingston Defense mission.
Ended up doing the solo to 21 waves tho
No i dont!!!!
you're top gets most ex others get small amount
Click Bait
Really helpful, many thanks sir!🫡