I have a new respect for Matt Berkey. To come on Doug's channel after the jokes Doug has made about him is pretty cool. Good on you also Doug for having him on. We all love rivalries but its cool we can be gentlemen when it comes to serious matters.
Doug is an intelligent but brash character and many people don’t understand those types of personalities. For example, Doug has constantly badgered/attacked Daniel Negreanu over what Doug saw as unjust, but still continued to show respect in Daniels abilities as a poker player. Of course Daniel is a more sensitive personality (and his integrity was attacked) but regardless, people like Berkey and even crazies like Phil Hellmuth know how to tow the line when it comes to personal relations as opposed to the public facet. Daniel for example..... Not so good at that part.
If you fold 99 on AA9KJ to a riverbet, you deserve to be mocked. And if you are not a sensitive person you should be able to understand the jokes about you is never personal, it's the situation that's comical, and not the person. Doesn't matter who made that fold, Doug would joke about a bad fold like that regardless who it was.
Not gonna lie, Doug, it's a breath of fresh air to see you talking with Berkey. You're both very well-spoken and there's great value in hearing these shared opinions.
This is a great comment as Negraneauxeau might be the only poker personality more nauseating than Polk. Seriously, I love Doug's videos but his interaction with anyone else is so horrifically "holier than thou" I can't even get through 20 minutes of this interview without having to take breaks. WTF, Polk? Is it a situation where Polk can only be socially normal when hammered or what? Good grief.
This is a great overall conversation even without the Postle stuff. Some very subtle ideas on GTO strategies in the real world and how to build a unique winning strategy even using today's highly theoretical models.. Great vlog Doug
Dunno man. We were just getting dumb people like me back in the game with the aPostle. I got so lost with this one, I just wanna play burgertime now. www.retrogames.cz/play_020-NES.php?language=EN
Totally agree. This really got me thinking about developing a custom strategy based on solvers, which I've never even been a big fan of. But Berkey explains it in a very relatable and practical way.
i love the doug and joey dynamic, but i think doug and berkey could sit and talk about anything strategic and i'd be glued for hours... this might be my favorite interview you've done in a long time #PolkBerkey2020
The point is that all of the cowboys painted on the wall were Asian. Look back at American history and see how many Asian cowboys there was! Then you can find the lolz.
As a tourist in Malaysia I went into a store to buy a belt. I look around and everyone is Asian. I ask for something uniquely Malaysian. After leaving the store I look more closely at my purchase. The motif all around the belt is rodeo cowboys. Asian cowboys. Lassooing deer.
Really loved the conversation/debate on theory. Mixed in. 2 similar but different points discussed . Doug more of this stuff. Postel talk I’m hooked but I wish wasn’t, it’s killing limited study time. Like a good mini series. Foot note since I subscribed to Joey I’ve been winning.
@@MrJamberee good point. He might have called the California Betting People Licensing Commissary Who Need to be Licensed In California Board. Or he may have called for a pizza. Or maybe his phone doesn't work since the screen cracked but still wanted to make something up
I have a whole new appreciation for Berkey after watching this stream.. I want to believe that Doug only targets idiots like luke schwartz who deserve it... but Berkey gets ripped a lot throughout the year, and he doesn't really deserve it.. although, credit to you Doug.. I did make this conclusion via your platform.. respect, keep up the good work.
I came to hear how M P was ripping everyone off but instead learnt that I’m still Kindergarten when it comes to poker, listening to Matt Berkey talk this guys knowledge is on point!
Great conversation between two titans in the game. Good to see the two of you get along as well and I’m betting a new mutual respect was established today. Appreciate the vid, but more importantly appreciate the collaboration. Thanks guys.
Cheaters conspiring with a casinos equipment to the tune of 300k or so, sounds like a something to me. Someone employed by the casino was involved in this. He didn't sneak in there and add his phone into the casinos computers, applications etc. . DEFINITELY an inside Job. Inside the casino. Commissioned, by the gaming commission. This is a big deal.
Jay D you shouldn’t walk into a legitimate card room and worry the odds are stacked against you. So yes this is a huge deal. Poker players aren’t playing the house and everyone at the table not counting in skill should have the equal odds of winning.
Jay D no but there is plenty circumstantial evidence on camera that proves a investigation should be launched. If you know anything about poker then you should see for yourself why it raises Suspicion.
Jay D just shut up you have no clue who you are talking about. Barkey plays in some of the biggest cash games out there. He’s won millions. You are a complete moron.
prior to July 18, 2018, Postle played with his phone ON the table at all times, and plays like a normal person.. not staring at his crotch or making ridiculous bets. ON July 18, 2018, the phone goes down in between his legs, is never seen on the table again, he constantly stares at his crotch, and he never loses a big hand. THAT is when it began.
After everything we've seen, I feel like simply calling Postle down with (almost) any made hands would have been +massive EV. It's a damn shame nobody got a chance to reverse the advantage. Regardless, I hope both him and Stones fall HARD from this.
Can we get a update on Mike Postle please!? I want to know that he has been financially destroyed and totally bankrupt. I want to know that his poker privileges have been permanently taken away and he's had his ass stomped!!
My prior judgement of Berkey was based entirely on watching big hands - usually with non-standard play. But HEARING him express himself now leaves me no doubt that this articulate, thoughtful man is more than an intellectual match for his detractors. His poker style may well lead him to some spectacular losses, but I now suspect these derive NOT from basic errors, but from an analysis not even considered by his critics.
I once heard a very respected sports bettor (perhaps one of the most respected one ever) speak so highly of Berkey and how brilliant of a poker mind Berkey is. This person is also an avid poker player and Berkey was his poker mentor years ago.
@@kevincloonan9787 Thanks. I am quite ashamed for having so easily formed an opinion based on little more than one-side, ridicule-laden, results-based reviews of his most spectacular fails. Lesson learned.
Like a case of being two levels above, you end up owning yourself and leveling yourself into bad spots. Berkey is sometimes over thinking and sometimes trying too hard to make plays. It's impossible to adjust for play which makes no sense and it's possible to over adjust and expect people to understand your previous adjustments.
I agree with Matt on the net positive effect. I'm not a poker player other than family get togethers etc, but find this whole thing fascinating! More than anything watching Doug's analysis of strategy and digesting all the evidence against Postle, it makes me want to brush up on my little to non-existent poker skills and play more often!!
Omg you both were in the Hollis game at sun coast?????? Holy shit, how do I not remember you guys. I wonder if either of you remember me....that's si crazy....he was always at red rock and the 2/5/10 game was at sun coast on Wednesdays.....so crazy
Lol old man hollis was a great person....I wonder how he is doing nowadays....wasn't it at Palms for a while too? I could be wrong about Palms but I'm positive it was at Suncoast on Wednesdays and was a 3k max buy in. Also I know he was a regular at Red Rock. Do either of you (Doug or Berkey) remember or know my name? Muhaha aka justin M. Played in that game sometimes when he wasn't getting 86 from the M for telling a pregnant dealer he hopes ***** why giving birth. This is so crazy lol. Do you guys remember justin aka Muhaha on full tilt?
just knowing poker along with the stub of the deck and having knowledge of of all the other factors is enough to be a winning player without being 100% accurate.
berkey thinks he mighta seen a blue screen on Postle's phone, whilst playing live, that looks like the live card GUI that card reading software transmits.. it gets mentioned for 14 seconds.. but it's implied that it is the causation for the title.
Automatic Card shufflers also come up with a pre determined shuffle. I'm sure this would not be impossible to find out in which order the cards were shuffled. And which burn and turn cards will be coming after the flop.
@TheFallsCapone Yeah, I'm really wondering if everyone here is just being sarcastic or if they actually think all this bullshit means anything. It sounds to me like saying the teacher inappropriately touch students because he has two teen daughters and had a stroke. None of it is evidence of innocence and the evidence is very clear and can't be explained with the bullshit said in this thread at all.
@TheFallsCapone I'll probably forget. Thanks! I'll go watch it :D Found the vid. I would have appreciated a link though, but it's pretty hot news so it already popped up in the recommended list.
Doug check Jaman Burtons vlog from 10 months ago, minute 22, the video name is Avoid Mike Postle: Crazy 1/3 No-Limit game at Stones Gambling Hall, this was before all the Postle allegations
It strikes me what strong witnesses poker players will make for Mac in the unlikely event this case goes to trial. I'm sure they've thought of this already, but on the off chance they haven't, I think Mac ought to play this angle up in terms of trying to push for a favorable pre-trial settlement. Crossing a witness like Matt Berkey must be the opposing counsel's literal worst nightmare.
Wow, Berkey is such a sweetheart. 3 of you should try one. Joey is a loud one and likes the social part. Matt is more strategy and uses less words, but they are all gto. So makes a funny contrast. And Vanessa has a combination of those two.
At around 36:00 Polk speaks about the beauty of doing this publicly on camera. Well, how else could he have cheat otherwise? It was only due to the card reader and Postle's access to either the live feed to his phone or the audio receiver in his hat. As to the why; aside from the profit split 2 with Stone, the publicity would have garnered a larger viewership thus adding to the exposure and traffic to the facility and Postle profiting further from other revenue streams - books and shows.
RESOLUTION: Position the card readers (camera or RF) either to the side of each player or by the dealer. If to the side of each player, the player registers the hand when folding or at end of hand. If the reader is near the dealer or in middle of table, each hand is registered by the dealer when folded. So there is no record of each hand until after the fact, and the information cannot be intercepted, observed, or used to anyone's benefit during play. Commentators will need to be on a delay for this to work seamlessly to the viewers. Listen to SLUMSON music.
@@MrJamberee Yes, it is the issue, for there would be no issue if player hands werent being read by a device. As for it being unnatural, yeah kinda but showing your hand to a reader is already unnatural; it's a minor adjustment that ensures you cannot be cheated at tables with hand reading devices. Mucked and folded hands would be read when folded or simply go over a reader before hitting the muck pile.
Such a shame these guys couldnt find a way to do more like this. They have such different ways of thinking and neither plays a yes man. Doug on Only Friends as the co main voice with Berkey would make for such interesting poker talk. Well, this was fun to watch after all these years, especially with Postle trying to get relevant again. Thanks to both of them for making this happen, even though only once.
Jackson Rancheria. awesome. went there for my first trip too when i was 18. won the am tourney that took us 3 hrs to get to from San Jose and then lost everything in cash shortly after. longest drive ever.. ah good times 🎰🐶
How many atoms in the universe? The best guesstimate is a good illustration of the extraordinary increases in value that are not so apparent when comparing numbers expressed to the power of 10. So average human cell has about 10 to the 14th atoms. The ENTIRE universe? Low estimate is 10 to the power of...78! Raising the exponent from 14 to 78 and we go from atoms in one cell to everything. Wow.
The Manhands it’s true. A lot of best pros are nerdy as hell. Like Ike haxton. Weird dude but excellent player. I’d be considered weird all day everyday to be a poker boss
I played in a high stakes Nor Cal game @15 years ago - a dealer played in the game and always sat in the 2 seat. When he drew to a flush a straight or a tiny set he always hit. That means he folded the flop when he knew he would miss. The dealer can flash the 2 seat the turn a river when he drags the chips to the middle of the table, rolling the deck, his thumb on the corner of the deck. I thought something was up when he always sat out on a left handed dealer. I started watching more closely and saw it w my own eyes and stopped playing in the game. If you know the turn and river card and are drawing to the nuts you don’t have to care what your opponents hole cards are. Anyways interesting apostle like the 2 seat.
Have to ban phone from poker table.. Everybody win, it make the players talk together, for the viewer it make the stream more entertaining.. Overall it makes the game better.
Postle bringing people together!!!! thank you for this Mike...(no chance for such a nice interview between these two)...he's not god in poker but he's the savior in real life...
On the RFID thing. If the cards actually did use RFID, then basically any half decent cell phone could read the cards. Granted the range would be short, maybe 6" tops. But you can buy after market dongles and make that range turn into 6'. Have it in your sleeve, have feedback system to phone/head thing.
Trying to figure out a preflop range when you can see your opponents cards.... I'm guessing any 2 better than your opponent is broad.. but makes the most sense.
Only Mike Postle could turn old foes into new friends. Well done, Mike. There is always a silver lining to everything.
I have a new respect for Matt Berkey. To come on Doug's channel after the jokes Doug has made about him is pretty cool. Good on you also Doug for having him on. We all love rivalries but its cool we can be gentlemen when it comes to serious matters.
They made fun of each other. But there is a level of respect because they both respect the game.
Doug is an intelligent but brash character and many people don’t understand those types of personalities. For example, Doug has constantly badgered/attacked Daniel Negreanu over what Doug saw as unjust, but still continued to show respect in Daniels abilities as a poker player. Of course Daniel is a more sensitive personality (and his integrity was attacked) but regardless, people like Berkey and even crazies like Phil Hellmuth know how to tow the line when it comes to personal relations as opposed to the public facet. Daniel for example..... Not so good at that part.
And we really love them needlessss
If you fold 99 on AA9KJ to a riverbet, you deserve to be mocked. And if you are not a sensitive person you should be able to understand the jokes about you is never personal, it's the situation that's comical, and not the person. Doesn't matter who made that fold, Doug would joke about a bad fold like that regardless who it was.
anyone know the summary? what is the update?
In the game of life, Postle is the rake.
I think negranu might disagree... Doesn't sound like a world where more rake is better to me.
We need to get the rake in the lake
He is the fucking rake.
Dnegs said it best...more postle is better.
The fin rake
Not gonna lie, Doug, it's a breath of fresh air to see you talking with Berkey. You're both very well-spoken and there's great value in hearing these shared opinions.
Those interviews that happened recently are absolutely brilliant. I enjoyed every single minute of them. Thank you, Doug.
This is great. Two of my favorites. So well versed and knowledgeable. Thank you!
"More Postle is better"
-- DNegs
This is a great comment as Negraneauxeau might be the only poker personality more nauseating than Polk. Seriously, I love Doug's videos but his interaction with anyone else is so horrifically "holier than thou" I can't even get through 20 minutes of this interview without having to take breaks. WTF, Polk? Is it a situation where Polk can only be socially normal when hammered or what? Good grief.
You seem to always ask the right question to make his explanation easy to understand, nice interviewing Doug 👊
This is a great overall conversation even without the Postle stuff. Some very subtle ideas on GTO strategies in the real world and how to build a unique winning strategy even using today's highly theoretical models.. Great vlog Doug
46:22 PLEASE do a full podcast with Berkey discussing the Philosophy of Poker Strategy!
Would be awesome.
Dunno man. We were just getting dumb people like me back in the game with the aPostle. I got so lost with this one, I just wanna play burgertime now. www.retrogames.cz/play_020-NES.php?language=EN
Totally agree. This really got me thinking about developing a custom strategy based on solvers, which I've never even been a big fan of. But Berkey explains it in a very relatable and practical way.
This is my new soap opera.
Mike postle is a god after all. He got Doug and Matt on the same podcast.
Dude this cheating scandal makes me want to a play poker again.
confirmed
Poker room was packed today
its stuff like this that should also add weight to legalizing online
Same here
@@kubakocu man me too
i love the doug and joey dynamic, but i think doug and berkey could sit and talk about anything strategic and i'd be glued for hours... this might be my favorite interview you've done in a long time #PolkBerkey2020
The Poker Guys did an interview with MB a year or two ago that was also very interesting.
same. i think its bc berkey can talk just as well (vernacular, intelligent, etc) and just as long as doug can lol. talent.
32:09 “I look around and everyone is Asian”
Welcome to a casino bro
32:01
How does that suprise him ? Doug hasn't been out for a long time lol
Well he is talking his early live days of poker
The point is that all of the cowboys painted on the wall were Asian.
Look back at American history and see how many Asian cowboys there was!
Then you can find the lolz.
As a tourist in Malaysia I went into a store to buy a belt. I look around and everyone is Asian. I ask for something uniquely Malaysian. After leaving the store I look more closely at my purchase. The motif all around the belt is rodeo cowboys. Asian cowboys. Lassooing deer.
Doug and Berkey!
This is gonna be fun to watch!
Awesome interview, Doug.
Fantastic conversation guys!!! Thanks for taking the time to discuss this issue 👍🏾
Really loved the conversation/debate on theory. Mixed in. 2 similar but different points discussed . Doug more of this stuff. Postel talk I’m hooked but I wish wasn’t, it’s killing limited study time. Like a good mini series. Foot note since I subscribed to Joey I’ve been winning.
I like Berkey for his humility.
100 percent
I called the California Gaming Commission and they have an investigator assigned to Stones’ live feed
That's odd considering there's no such thing as the California gaming commission
He could have meant the California Gambling Control Commission but just used "Gaming" in place of that? They do have a Gaming/Licensing department.
tedgey settle down. There is s CA gaming commission. The name is not important.
@@MrJamberee good point. He might have called the California Betting People Licensing Commissary Who Need to be Licensed In California Board. Or he may have called for a pizza. Or maybe his phone doesn't work since the screen cracked but still wanted to make something up
He actually called me. Nice guy.
I have a whole new appreciation for Berkey after watching this stream.. I want to believe that Doug only targets idiots like luke schwartz who deserve it... but Berkey gets ripped a lot throughout the year, and he doesn't really deserve it.. although, credit to you Doug.. I did make this conclusion via your platform.. respect, keep up the good work.
Berkey and doug friends again...AWESOME
Time to return to the GOOD OLD DAYS of Poker Stars, Ultimate Bet & Full Tilt! Yesiree!
Did that documentary Berkey was talking about at the end of the podcast ever get released?
Sounded so interesting.
I came to hear how M P was ripping everyone off but instead learnt that I’m still Kindergarten when it comes to poker, listening to Matt Berkey talk this guys knowledge is on point!
dgb8500 no face, the nuts , let's keep it poker related. 🤣
9:19 - 9:50 for the funniest part!
One more notable thing - Postle has NEVER ever asked for a chip count as far as I have seen!
dang!he just knows he is going to win!since the dude feeds him the info to his phone!
Very good point.
Jason Somerville said his team at Run It Up upgraded the front of house including cameras.
The conversation at like 43:00-57:00 for a while is super dope. Great video of two great minds.
It really is, part of it is almost talking how they have built in solvers in their head that only come from putting In time into poker.
Thanks. I ceebs listening to the whole thing and was looking for someone to pick the best part. Thanks so much
I know this took place a long time ago but it’s fun to rewatch in hindsight. Also,
Polky and berk make a great tag team. I like yalls balance
Putting all the pieces of the postle together!
great chat! berkey should be a reg guest
This is my new favorite Netflix detective show !!! 🤙🏼
The tightest player in the game often accuses you of playing too tight and the slowest player will accuse you of being too slow.
Great conversation between two titans in the game. Good to see the two of you get along as well and I’m betting a new mutual respect was established today. Appreciate the vid, but more importantly appreciate the collaboration. Thanks guys.
"but we didn't talk about how that range changes when you know what they have". Lol, you nailed it Doug!
Love Berkey coming on. Great guy
The Doug and Matt rivalry has been absolutely massive for Berkey haha I didn’t know who he even was before that.
Big props to Matt he's a very smart dude i like him
I could sit and listen to people talk about how bad Postle is even when he knows the cards is hilarious.
It's true though. I would have made a million, or I would have played LEGIT-ish.
@@masonVRgorilla Same... The guy played like he was trying to get caught.
Need more on those topic Doug!
This conversation is gold
🔥🔥🔥🔥 Fucking plantinum bros!! I really enjoyed that I was glued in the entire hour and half!
BERKEY IS 🐐🐐🐐 LEVEL... GREAT CONVO DOUG..💪🏽💪🏽👌👌👌👌
Is there a gaming commission that should be notified?
Cheaters conspiring with a casinos equipment to the tune of 300k or so, sounds like a something to me. Someone employed by the casino was involved in this. He didn't sneak in there and add his phone into the casinos computers, applications etc. . DEFINITELY an inside Job. Inside the casino. Commissioned, by the gaming commission. This is a big deal.
Jay D you shouldn’t walk into a legitimate card room and worry the odds are stacked against you. So yes this is a huge deal. Poker players aren’t playing the house and everyone at the table not counting in skill should have the equal odds of winning.
Jay D no but there is plenty circumstantial evidence on camera that proves a investigation should be launched. If you know anything about poker then you should see for yourself why it raises Suspicion.
@Jay D zero evidence? Do you understand how math works?
Jay D just shut up you have no clue who you are talking about. Barkey plays in some of the biggest cash games out there. He’s won millions. You are a complete moron.
prior to July 18, 2018, Postle played with his phone ON the table at all times, and plays like a normal person.. not staring at his crotch or making ridiculous bets. ON July 18, 2018, the phone goes down in between his legs, is never seen on the table again, he constantly stares at his crotch, and he never loses a big hand. THAT is when it began.
After everything we've seen, I feel like simply calling Postle down with (almost) any made hands would have been +massive EV. It's a damn shame nobody got a chance to reverse the advantage. Regardless, I hope both him and Stones fall HARD from this.
Can we get a update on Mike Postle please!? I want to know that he has been financially destroyed and totally bankrupt. I want to know that his poker privileges have been permanently taken away and he's had his ass stomped!!
Not guilty. So...
My prior judgement of Berkey was based entirely on watching big hands - usually with non-standard play. But HEARING him express himself now leaves me no doubt that this articulate, thoughtful man is more than an intellectual match for his detractors. His poker style may well lead him to some spectacular losses, but I now suspect these derive NOT from basic errors, but from an analysis not even considered by his critics.
Tim Sullivan Deep.
100% agree
I don't like his style, but it's pretty much unique
I once heard a very respected sports bettor (perhaps one of the most respected one ever) speak so highly of Berkey and how brilliant of a poker mind Berkey is. This person is also an avid poker player and Berkey was his poker mentor years ago.
@@kevincloonan9787 Thanks. I am quite ashamed for having so easily formed an opinion based on little more than one-side, ridicule-laden, results-based reviews of his most spectacular fails. Lesson learned.
Like a case of being two levels above, you end up owning yourself and leveling yourself into bad spots. Berkey is sometimes over thinking and sometimes trying too hard to make plays.
It's impossible to adjust for play which makes no sense and it's possible to over adjust and expect people to understand your previous adjustments.
I agree with Matt on the net positive effect. I'm not a poker player other than family get togethers etc, but find this whole thing fascinating! More than anything watching Doug's analysis of strategy and digesting all the evidence against Postle, it makes me want to brush up on my little to non-existent poker skills and play more often!!
"We had to get Goldie Locks off"
Lol
Haha same.
I don't think this interview would happen today lol
Hi.. anybody has the link to the Documentary Matt Berkey refers to on the last part of the interview?
Thanks
Omg you both were in the Hollis game at sun coast?????? Holy shit, how do I not remember you guys. I wonder if either of you remember me....that's si crazy....he was always at red rock and the 2/5/10 game was at sun coast on Wednesdays.....so crazy
Lol old man hollis was a great person....I wonder how he is doing nowadays....wasn't it at Palms for a while too? I could be wrong about Palms but I'm positive it was at Suncoast on Wednesdays and was a 3k max buy in. Also I know he was a regular at Red Rock. Do either of you (Doug or Berkey) remember or know my name? Muhaha aka justin M. Played in that game sometimes when he wasn't getting 86 from the M for telling a pregnant dealer he hopes ***** why giving birth. This is so crazy lol. Do you guys remember justin aka Muhaha on full tilt?
also, i think you may have a phantom power issue with your microphone.. it keeps kicking in and out of full quality... i.e. 48:32
Thanks Doug you are awesome
Great interview and keep the investigation going!
just knowing poker along with the stub of the deck and having knowledge of of all the other factors is enough to be a winning player without being 100% accurate.
Doug, please try to get someone from the card company on your show, would love to learn more about cards being 'mis-registered'. Thanks.
Postle has full custody of his daughter, he can’t be guilty.
That's effed up bro..makes him think..was it worth it
What’s the stunning twist ?! I don’t have an hour and a half to spare here.
K. O. Clickbait. No twist.
Go to 24.00 minutes
30:41 Doug laughing.
The twist is no twist #mindblown
berkey thinks he mighta seen a blue screen on Postle's phone, whilst playing live, that looks like the live card GUI that card reading software transmits.. it gets mentioned for 14 seconds.. but it's implied that it is the causation for the title.
Pure gold Doug. Postle saved your vlog. 💯👏
I actually got into a crazy feud with another friend, I had to weigh the molar mass of the universe vs permeations of a deck of cards...
Automatic Card shufflers also come up with a pre determined shuffle. I'm sure this would not be impossible to find out in which order the cards were shuffled. And which burn and turn cards will be coming after the flop.
Isn't there a gaming commission in CA? what about the DA? There must be a state authority, above the casino, that would be the place to go.
Postle said he had a daughter though
And he has 100% custody so hes not allowed to leave Sacramento
MICHAEL PHAN Look, having a massive blot clot from lower leg to torso is exculpating evidence.
Blood clots, single father, ultimate bet kingpin, credible acquaintances to vouch for him. Game over. He’s clearly innocent.
@TheFallsCapone Yeah, I'm really wondering if everyone here is just being sarcastic or if they actually think all this bullshit means anything. It sounds to me like saying the teacher inappropriately touch students because he has two teen daughters and had a stroke. None of it is evidence of innocence and the evidence is very clear and can't be explained with the bullshit said in this thread at all.
@TheFallsCapone I'll probably forget. Thanks! I'll go watch it :D Found the vid. I would have appreciated a link though, but it's pretty hot news so it already popped up in the recommended list.
Hope we can all learn from this experience. Protect yourself. Nobody else will.
This is great stuff Polk!
Just checked his Hendon Mob record, nobody can run that good that consistently.
Doug check Jaman Burtons vlog from 10 months ago, minute 22, the video name is Avoid Mike Postle: Crazy 1/3 No-Limit game at Stones Gambling Hall, this was before all the Postle allegations
Good to see you guys are cool after the running 9s !!!
It strikes me what strong witnesses poker players will make for Mac in the unlikely event this case goes to trial. I'm sure they've thought of this already, but on the off chance they haven't, I think Mac ought to play this angle up in terms of trying to push for a favorable pre-trial settlement. Crossing a witness like Matt Berkey must be the opposing counsel's literal worst nightmare.
57:20 was a beautiful segue back to the topic at hand.
Wow, Berkey is such a sweetheart. 3 of you should try one. Joey is a loud one and likes the social part. Matt is more strategy and uses less words, but they are all gto. So makes a funny contrast. And Vanessa has a combination of those two.
This is very very interesting and informative....... might be onto something !
Great Work Doug!!!
At around 36:00 Polk speaks about the beauty of doing this publicly on camera. Well, how else could he have cheat otherwise? It was only due to the card reader and Postle's access to either the live feed to his phone or the audio receiver in his hat.
As to the why; aside from the profit split 2 with Stone, the publicity would have garnered a larger viewership thus adding to the exposure and traffic to the facility and Postle profiting further from other revenue streams - books and shows.
Can't be getting a live stream due to 30 min delay but yes the fact it is filmed is what is most likely aiding him
Postle has a direct connection to the ip. He’s viewing the game real time.
has this been proven? (genuinely curious)
But here's the thing..... it doesn't need to be "proven" just a reasonable doubt that his winnings weren't legit
Berkey seems like a GREAT guy.
RESOLUTION: Position the card readers (camera or RF) either to the side of each player or by the dealer.
If to the side of each player, the player registers the hand when folding or at end of hand.
If the reader is near the dealer or in middle of table, each hand is registered by the dealer when folded.
So there is no record of each hand until after the fact, and the information cannot be intercepted, observed, or used to anyone's benefit during play.
Commentators will need to be on a delay for this to work seamlessly to the viewers.
Listen to SLUMSON music.
That’s not the issue. And it’s so unnatural that it wouldn’t work. Players muck their hands by habit.
@@MrJamberee Yes, it is the issue, for there would be no issue if player hands werent being read by a device. As for it being unnatural, yeah kinda but showing your hand to a reader is already unnatural; it's a minor adjustment that ensures you cannot be cheated at tables with hand reading devices. Mucked and folded hands would be read when folded or simply go over a reader before hitting the muck pile.
@@SinImageProductions that is not a valid solution for broadcast.
@@bubba200874426 lol... good input. Here's an equally detailed and well thought out reply: Yes it is.
Such a shame these guys couldnt find a way to do more like this. They have such different ways of thinking and neither plays a yes man. Doug on Only Friends as the co main voice with Berkey would make for such interesting poker talk. Well, this was fun to watch after all these years, especially with Postle trying to get relevant again. Thanks to both of them for making this happen, even though only once.
couldnt the states gaming commission launch an investigation?? i dont know how it works in California.
Could someone please tell me , at the WSOP main event and other events covered by TV , what happens to the all the TV Money
A few Italians from Chicago show up with an empty suitcase and leave with a full one.
Jackson Rancheria. awesome. went there for my first trip too when i was 18. won the am tourney that took us 3 hrs to get to from San Jose and then lost everything in cash shortly after. longest drive ever.. ah good times 🎰🐶
Wouldn't surprise me if Berkey got called as an expert witness.
They will bring in the manufacturer’s expert.
How many atoms in the universe? The best guesstimate is a good illustration of the extraordinary increases in value that are not so apparent when comparing numbers expressed to the power of 10. So average human cell has about 10 to the 14th atoms. The ENTIRE universe? Low estimate is 10 to the power of...78! Raising the exponent from 14 to 78 and we go from atoms in one cell to everything. Wow.
Tim Sullivan This is the issue of scale. His win rate is of an almost cosmic scale. Even prior super users weren’t this blatant.
Cliffs: What is the stunning twist?
The bait got clicked. That's the twist
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@@chadmichael03 hahaha good one
Great pod cast. I'd like to hear speculation about what Justin Kuraitis and the Taylor guy are doing? Did they quit their jobs? Are they on the Lam
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I HOPE THEY DON'T RUIN THE VEAL
Love your videos doug
Far more entertaining stream than I expected. Given the history, it was nice to see everyone being reasonable.
45:00 Doug: "Poker players are weird!"
Matt: [really weird response]
The Manhands it’s true. A lot of best pros are nerdy as hell. Like Ike haxton. Weird dude but excellent player. I’d be considered weird all day everyday to be a poker boss
The Manhands lol
I played in a high stakes Nor Cal game @15 years ago - a dealer played in the game and always sat in the 2 seat. When he drew to a flush a straight or a tiny set he always hit. That means he folded the flop when he knew he would miss. The dealer can flash the 2 seat the turn a river when he drags the chips to the middle of the table, rolling the deck, his thumb on the corner of the deck. I thought something was up when he always sat out on a left handed dealer. I started watching more closely and saw it w my own eyes and stopped playing in the game. If you know the turn and river card and are drawing to the nuts you don’t have to care what your opponents hole cards are. Anyways interesting apostle like the 2 seat.
I could listen to these two talk about poker theory I don't understand for years
Have to ban phone from poker table.. Everybody win, it make the players talk together, for the viewer it make the stream more entertaining.. Overall it makes the game better.
I think this applies to life in general too; phones are taking away from the present moment experience!
@@adbethsing383 Woow i was expecting to get insult in the comment.. Really glad you see it that way too.
I'm still trying to figure what's going on.
So isnt there digital fingerprints of the stream being sent to somewhere else???
Postle bringing people together!!!! thank you for this Mike...(no chance for such a nice interview between these two)...he's not god in poker but he's the savior in real life...
He sounded like Sean Evans at the end with the outro 😂 watching too many episodes of Hot Ones Dougie? 🔥
On the RFID thing. If the cards actually did use RFID, then basically any half decent cell phone could read the cards. Granted the range would be short, maybe 6" tops. But you can buy after market dongles and make that range turn into 6'. Have it in your sleeve, have feedback system to phone/head thing.
Trying to figure out a preflop range when you can see your opponents cards.... I'm guessing any 2 better than your opponent is broad.. but makes the most sense.