Peter's voice is in top form; really, really controlled and tastefully done. As any fan of VDGG knows, in concert he has a lamentable tendency to loose all subtlety of tone and just scream ... but not here. I am in awe of how fresh and unnervingly raw this song is, even after thirty-five years.
Some of their works are great. Most boring, or barely musical poetry and experiments. Better were Gentle Giant, Yes, ELP, Jethro Tull; best was Pink Floyd - yet even Them pale compared to Frank Zappa.
@@ajlttnxrn7832 VdGG could beat those on a tiny jazz-kit, a disjointed mellotron , some lashes of ranting existencial wordsmithing and a spiky sax - all interwoven with Energy, which failed that selection on oh so many occasions. Maybe because VdGG's music is prone to please lighthouse keepers who know about the plague...
@@ajlttnxrn7832 VDGG is literally the only out of the lot to have 5 masterpiece albums in a row, and to have a successful late reunion (Do Not Disturb)
Congrats to Banton and Evans for descending into Hammill's very bleak hell-hole and pulling him out intact. I didn't think this could be done live without a ton of backing tracks. I was wrong. Could have done with Magog though!
@v3n3num That recently? I have to admit, I didn't realise they were still going. I need to see them before they finally vanish as they ultimately must :(. I cut my musical teeth on prog (if you consider Tubular Bells to be prog, or in the same neighbourhood. Followed it up with Yes, Floyd and Genesis before branching), and having been born in '89 I missed most of the great bands of the genre as far as live performances are concerned. VDGG is definitely one of my holy grails of bands to see live.
Too right mate funny the amount of people who have a copy of Nadirs big change lurking in vinyl collection, then the Italians who have Pawn Hearts and I pretty sure they also have all their instruments from the 1973 tour sitting somewhere have you read the Lemming chronicles it was actually a good read
I always figured they borrowed it from M C Escher (who borrowed it from Roger Penrose apparently). Not sure if differential calculus is amongst Hamiil and the boys considerable talents. (It wouldn't surprise me!)
I normally avoid too specific tags regarding subgenres , but Dark Prog is something i enjoy as an abstract concept, definitely becoming specific when we consider the whole of their creation in over 50 years. I've was always seen them as a Promethean group, but let's keep away of these middle class mindgames , as Johnny Rotten would say, him being another VdGG's fan. Dark Prog it is.
People who complain about the lack of rawness and aggression compared the '70s version, you're just confusing distortion from bad sound systems and bad recording quality with the actual qualities of the performance. I wager that this song would have sounded much the same back it the day had it been done with the audio equipment of today.
Oh there is plenty of aggression on this. The aggression is turned up a notch or two thanks to PH's electric guitar, which wasn't on the the original studio version.
@@kidflersh7807 false. Zeppelin, Sabbath, and Deep Purple we're all pioneers but Van der Graaf dropped Areasol Grey Machine before all of them. Definitely the ground works of heavy metal
@@fanaticaldueling6337 aerosol isn't very metal, and is only sort of prog. (Still good!) There isn't too much in the first era of VdGG I'd call metal. Killer is hard rock, but not metal. I guess the end of white hammer would count.
Jeez, couldn't they afford a NP bass? Nevertheless pretty amazing for three "old fogeys". One single bar of this blows away an entire album of anything contemporary & Cowan.
Yeah, i feel very sad about nic potter not being included in the 2005 Reunion, considering the amout of albums he played in peter's solo stuff. Maybe he was too busy touring for his solo project and declined, or simply, they didn't bother to ask. I'm not a fan of the band's discography after 2005, yet i'm pretty sure that Nic would have made it much better than it turned out to be, that guy is super underrated, and that's why he will always be my favourite memeber of VDGG. Hugh's bass playing is good, and i'm more than happy to hear him when he actually plays it ofc (peter can also play bass but i don't think he ever played it live), but simply, none of them compare to Nic's, and this song in particular desperatly needs bass.
Peter's voice is in top form; really, really controlled and tastefully done. As any fan of VDGG knows, in concert he has a lamentable tendency to loose all subtlety of tone and just scream ... but not here. I am in awe of how fresh and unnervingly raw this song is, even after thirty-five years.
My favourite band and singer! Amazingly great! Concerning VDGG and PH spare no superlatives.
I still love this. At least Hammill still has his range. Guy Evans is killer after all these years.
Amazing is an understatement.
goosebumps...
If rawness and aggression were doubled, as suggested by some here, I think, my computer screen would explode, together with my head.
This is my top. Thanx boys.
One of my favourite VdGG/Hammill songs.
I have thrills!!!!! Gréât job from them 3..stunnîng.
Van der Graaf are actually very down-to-earth guys :)
Peter Hammill, Hugh Banton and Guy Evans on the TOP!
QUESTO è il VERO PRINCIPE DELLE TENEBRE con TUTTO il rispetto e l'ammirazione per OZZY OSBOURNE !!!!!
very very good...........................................................................................
Those guys are over 60, in this light they are still doing great.
Amazing !
Van der Graaf Generator and King Crimson are the best progressive bands in sum of all works...
Van der Graaf Generator, King Crimson and Genesis are my favourite bands
Some of their works are great. Most boring, or barely musical poetry and experiments. Better were Gentle Giant, Yes, ELP, Jethro Tull; best was Pink Floyd - yet even Them pale compared to Frank Zappa.
Nonsense. Crimson and Van Der Graaf "mainly boring"? You need your head examined.
@@ajlttnxrn7832 VdGG could beat those on a tiny jazz-kit, a disjointed mellotron , some lashes of ranting existencial wordsmithing and a spiky sax - all interwoven with Energy, which failed that selection on oh so many occasions. Maybe because VdGG's music is prone to please lighthouse keepers who know about the plague...
@@ajlttnxrn7832 VDGG is literally the only out of the lot to have 5 masterpiece albums in a row, and to have a successful late reunion (Do Not Disturb)
Congrats to Banton and Evans for descending into Hammill's very bleak hell-hole and pulling him out intact. I didn't think this could be done live without a ton of backing tracks. I was wrong. Could have done with Magog though!
@v3n3num That recently? I have to admit, I didn't realise they were still going. I need to see them before they finally vanish as they ultimately must :(. I cut my musical teeth on prog (if you consider Tubular Bells to be prog, or in the same neighbourhood. Followed it up with Yes, Floyd and Genesis before branching), and having been born in '89 I missed most of the great bands of the genre as far as live performances are concerned. VDGG is definitely one of my holy grails of bands to see live.
Hammill sings really great in this song! :)
Too right mate funny the amount of people who have a copy of Nadirs big change lurking in vinyl collection, then the Italians who have Pawn Hearts and I pretty sure they also have all their instruments from the 1973 tour sitting somewhere have you read the Lemming chronicles it was actually a good read
I always figured they borrowed it from M C Escher (who borrowed it from Roger Penrose apparently).
Not sure if differential calculus is amongst Hamiil and the boys considerable talents. (It wouldn't surprise me!)
Boys... 👏👏👏👏👏
wow
Still life
Dark prog ai massimi livelli !!!!
I normally avoid too specific tags regarding subgenres , but Dark Prog is something i enjoy as an abstract concept, definitely becoming specific when we consider the whole of their creation in over 50 years. I've was always seen them as a Promethean group, but let's keep away of these middle class mindgames , as Johnny Rotten would say, him being another VdGG's fan. Dark Prog it is.
che dire... meraviglioso
Inmenso
People who complain about the lack of rawness and aggression compared the '70s version, you're just confusing distortion from bad sound systems and bad recording quality with the actual qualities of the performance. I wager that this song would have sounded much the same back it the day had it been done with the audio equipment of today.
Oh there is plenty of aggression on this. The aggression is turned up a notch or two thanks to PH's electric guitar, which wasn't on the the original studio version.
"it" being the impossible triangle
Da paura!!! Senza metafora😵😵😵
Zappa had no soul, Hammill has no flesh.
Well personally I don't see any problem with Peter being as fabulously thin in 2007 as he was in '72. You might just be right about Frank though...
@@maxinemckenzie6076 Rather have tried to grasp the difference between Their musics in an aphoristic manner.
But sure.
@@maxinemckenzie6076 🪔🪔
Hammilll intones Satan
They were actually inventing a musical style of their own; some called it heavy metal later on
Heavy metal??? WTF??? VDGG has nothing to do with heavy metal...
Metal existed before vdgg bruh
@@kidflersh7807 false. Zeppelin, Sabbath, and Deep Purple we're all pioneers but Van der Graaf dropped Areasol Grey Machine before all of them. Definitely the ground works of heavy metal
@@vladimirohuber4720 same goes for you
@@fanaticaldueling6337 aerosol isn't very metal, and is only sort of prog. (Still good!) There isn't too much in the first era of VdGG I'd call metal. Killer is hard rock, but not metal. I guess the end of white hammer would count.
@frogbs LOL
Jeez, couldn't they afford a NP bass?
Nevertheless pretty amazing for three "old fogeys".
One single bar of this blows away an entire album of anything contemporary & Cowan.
Yeah, i feel very sad about nic potter not being included in the 2005 Reunion, considering the amout of albums he played in peter's solo stuff. Maybe he was too busy touring for his solo project and declined, or simply, they didn't bother to ask. I'm not a fan of the band's discography after 2005, yet i'm pretty sure that Nic would have made it much better than it turned out to be, that guy is super underrated, and that's why he will always be my favourite memeber of VDGG. Hugh's bass playing is good, and i'm more than happy to hear him when he actually plays it ofc (peter can also play bass but i don't think he ever played it live), but simply, none of them compare to Nic's, and this song in particular desperatly needs bass.
well..... nothing i can say would be....... worth a spit....,