Van Der Graaf Generator - Whatever Would Robert Have Said? (1970)
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- Van der Graaf Generator are an English progressive rock band, formed in 1967 in Manchester by singer-songwriters Peter Hammill and Chris Judge Smith and the first act signed by Charisma Records. They did not experience much commercial success in the UK, but became popular in Italy during the 1970s. In 2005 the band reformed, and are still musically active with a line-up of Hammill, organist Hugh Banton and drummer Guy Evans.
The band formed at the University of Manchester, but settled in London where they signed with Charisma. They went through several incarnations in their early years, including a brief split in 1969. When they reformed, they found minor commercial success with The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other (released in early 1970 and their only album to chart in the UK), and after the follow-up album, H to He, Who Am the Only One (December 1970), stabilised around a line-up of Hammill, Banton, Evans and saxophonist David Jackson. The quartet subsequently achieved significant success in Italy with the release of Pawn Hearts in 1971. After several exhausting tours of Italy, the band split in 1972. They reformed in 1975, releasing Godbluff and frequently touring Italy again, before a major line-up change and a slight rename to Van der Graaf. The band split in 1978. After many years apart, the band finally reunited at a gig at the Royal Festival Hall and a short tour in 2005. Since then, the band has continued as a trio of Hammill, Banton, and Evans, who record and tour regularly in between Hammill's concurrent solo career. - เพลง
Guy Evans is such an underrated drummer.
I love how peter played his guitar like the rent is due and his life is depended on that guitar
What a treasure. I love this album because of how songs like this bridge the late flower power psych period and the harder edged early 70's prog scene.
Beautifully said.
Proof, if anyone needs it, that Guy Evans is an absolutely stellar drummer!
I agree! He has some chip's, I play drums a little- you can tell he is a good drummer!
He's an extraordinary drummer. Banton a great keyboard player and Jackson a great sax and flute player. And Potter was a fine bassist. They were exceptional musicians.
@@patrickbuckley344 ¹
Stellar!
in a top 10 of all time category
Unique band..........Peter is brilliant.................
I love the VDGG stuff.........but loved solo gigs móre....,........?..........
VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR GENIUSZ GENIUSZ GENIUSZ nad GENIUSZAMI KOSMOS KOCHANI na zawsze dziękuję BARDZO i MIŁOŚĆ ☮️ POKÓJ MUZYKA tak
Their best line up, with Nic Potter on bass. Great bass line and drumming btw
Four geniuses, that is true. And in addition seeing young Nick Potter on bass-he played the killer bass on the 1978 Vital live album.
RIP, Nick.
Ce groupe restera pour moi et pour l'éternité mon groupe préféré ! Il y a tout dans cette musique, ils passent par tous les sons, toutes les ambiances. Je n'ai qu'une seule chose à leur dire : merci et à jamais pour toute ma vie !
Brilliant band, then and now.
Отличная композициия. Привет из Сибири!
Van der Graff forever the best band of progesive rock.
Masterpiece never gets old.
This band is the reflection of prodigious bygone era, it's a phantom asteroid that returns to set its sights on sound art. A prodigious wave charged with paradoxes from which escape the magic, enthusiasm and irrationality, hypnotic factors challenging vulnerable souls in search of the absolute. His musical architecture is a short tunnel that leads to light
I’ll have what he’s having.
@@blueabattoir make it 2 and and f*ck it, Make it a double for me and my new friend
Me too
Semplicemente grandiosi lì ascolto da 40 anni e li trovo ancora attuali
First concert I went to. Genesis, VDG and Graham Bell and Arc. Early 70’s at Manchester FTH
My first concert April 9th 1971 Lyceum Ballroom..A Charisma Day Out..VDGG Genesis Audience Patto Bell and Arc and more..
How much were the tickets?
The first time I saw them was at the free trade hall with genesis and lindisfarne early 70s good concert except for lindisfarne
@@jonnuanez2843 Can’t remember…. But lots less than going to a concert these days !
@@jonnuanez2843 That was the Charisma record label's ''SIX BOB TOUR'' with VdGG, Lindisfarne and Genesis all on the same bill. That's value for money ! Six shillings or 30 pence (£0.30) to the younger generation.
Amazing exhibition. In Italy they were kinds of gods :) They singularly appear in many albums. Hammill speaks italian fluently.
My favorite band of all time ever since discovering a used copy of Godbluff at a Costa Mesa, CA record store in 1986. I'm delighted that they still have a dedicated following & I especially love the tracks where Potter's bass is prominent (like this one). The saxophone/Hammond organ duality is unique and brilliant!
I'm guessing you found it at Music Market!
@@davemack2525 Portobello, circa. '70's.........
OLTRE al sassofono flauto traverso batteria e percussioni organo hammond ed altre tastiere ed a volte anche il basso.... NON scordatevi mai....la marcia in più di questa straordinaria band....e cioè la incredibile voce di un certo.....PETER HAMMILL!!!!!!!!!
I'm liking this band. The sax player and the keyboardist are amazing
I managed to meet David Jackson some years ago in Rome while he was performing together with italian prog band Osanna.
Great humble man and great concert.
Stunning! 😀
Immerwieder genial! 40 Jahre ein guter Begleiter ! Nie langweilig.🤠
They had quite a cult following in France too. I remember seeing them in Luxembourg in 1975 I think. Small venue but what a concert . Great memories. Thanks Beat-Club
The quality is OUTSTANDING
Mezzo secolo fa😨 avevo 15 anni quando ascoltai la prima volta Pawn Hearts, nella mia collezione c'è ancora un consumatissimo "H to He"
Simply magnificent! Here are the lyrics for you all to enjoy:
I am the suck of air you take
That you've had many times before;
I am the blow you try to fake,
But which still throws you out the door;
I am the air that fills your lungs,
But leaves you emptier below;
I am the void that you can't explain,
But which is where you want to go.
Flame sucks between the balls of steel;
Nothing moves, the air itself congeals.
Look at the flame if you want to,
Hear the sharp crack of the fission,
Smell the brief vapor of ozone,
Feel static motion.
I am the love you try to hide,
But which all can understand;
I am the hate you still deny,
Though the blood is on your hands;
I am the peace you're searching for,
But you know you'll never find;
I am the pain you can't endure,
But which tingles in your mind.
Flame sucks between the balls of steel;
Nothing moves, the air itself congeals.
Look at the flame if you want to,
Hear the sharp crack of the fission,
Smell the brief vapor of ozone,
Feel static motion.
I am the joy you really pay for,
But which comes completely free;
I am your god on the final day,
For the truth is you are me
Rock'n'Roll yesterday, today and forever
Awesome rendition of the song!
Nic Potter (RIP) on bass, rarely visible in the murk on the extreme right.
He has a Amazing tone❤️
@@klaus8456 Tube amp, nowadays they are too loud for the sound guy :(
@@ParadoxapocalypSatan Time for a new sound guy
I love Peter Hammill. I had this on VHS back in the day from German television. Great quality. Thank you for sharing this 💖🙏
If you love Peter Hammill pick up his solo album called "Nadir's Big Chance". It will blow you away!
@@barrygreenstein8383 Thank you for your tip Barry.
@@barrygreenstein8383 Punk before time.
@@bennyras3287 You are welcome
what other pieces were on it ?
Brilliant quality. It brings back memories of when I saw VDG in Romford way back in 1970. David Jackson had joined the band so it must have been around the time they released H to He. They invariably had amplifier problems in the early days and were late getting onto the stage. Fantastic experience to see them then and extremely loud in the Romford venue.
This channel just keeps coming out with gold!
Fantastic!
Very cool
Saw them fifty years ago this very week on 1st August 1970 in Plymouth. great to remind me of what I witnessed back then. many thanks.
Hey, do you maybe, maybe remember the setlist from that concert?
@@bishoppike4790 Hi, sadly I cannot remember that much . 10/- (50p) entry . Do recall the saxophonist wearing a Red T-shirt with large Black stars on it ( exactly like the one I had bought that year), also he wore long leather boots. I'd only just turned seventeen years old, what an impact they had on me. There were about 150 in the audience I reckon . Do recall preferring the two long tunes played during their hour long set. Only recently got back into them as happened to buy ( a very scratched and battered) BBC Transcription disc with three session tracks on side two ; Killer; Man erg; Theme one .
You lucky man, great band, often opened up for Genesis back in the day! They were a very underrated group, should of had more exposure.
Peter Hammill💜the best male voice of progressive
Annie Haslam is the best female voice of progressive :D
This is just plain wicked good. Lovin this Beat Club channel BIGTIME
Underrated ain't even the word for vdgg...so unique...and that sax...damn.
Much better version than on the record.
This is...Art!
Bei tempi quelli anni 70
Music of which the imperfection is part of its greatness.
Hamill has one of the great acquired-taste voices, equaled only by Tom Waits and Roger Wootton (from Comus).
And none of them seemed to be playing quite the same kind of music as any of the others.
And Ian Curtis “anti singing”
The least we can do is wave to each other. The first Album I bought.Still have it
One of the 12 Greatest Songs Ever Written About False Self.
magnificent
Back in the 60s, the new wave was known as 'Underground' which, was subsequently replaced by progressive.
Where as just about any band could pass as Underground, only a few bands were truly progressive and VDGG were one of the few.
Peter Hammill said he never considered VdGG to be Prog - but Underground.
@@lemming9984 Caro lemming 998 così ti fai chiamare vero??? Ebbene , progressive, Art rock avangarde rock e anche UNDERGROUND sono secondo me praticamente la stessa cosa, cioè sono QUELLE proposte musicali che sono in opposizione al music BIZ ilpop mainstream ilpop commerciale ed i VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR Fanno assolutamente parte di quel filone di quel movimento musicale contro il SISTEMA !!!!!! Saluti da un Grande prog lover !!!!!!!
@@massimomarchesin8708 Certamente mi definisco 'vero'. Non stavo criticando, semplicemente affermando ciò che Peter Hammill ha detto più volte nelle interviste. [Google Translate].
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Van der graaf is the DEFINITION of underrated band. Beatles, Yes, Led Zeppelin, Rush , Genesis and Vand der Graaf are the top bands of the universe. Only Peter Hammill tends to be too much chaotic alive (screams) , but he has a very beautiful natural voice. All the records are superb, but the live versions tend to be too much screammy
yes, he sounds quite interesting when not yelling - more dynamics, more intriguing.
His voice sounds a little bit like Bowie's
💯
Exactly my opinion about his voice, is really beautiful and unique when he doesn’t scream
Get a bootleg........
Yes!,
COOL 🌹🎶🎼🎵🌞🤗🌞🎵🎼🎶🌹🕉
Спасибо за запись
This VdGG song and others have me pumping my fists whenever i listen
Muito bom! Não sei porque, mas fez me lembrar Rogério Skylab. Viajante.
very very goodsong end band....................................................
Eis o suprassumo do rock progressivo.
I am the suck of air you take
That you've had many times before;
I am the blow you try to fake,
But which still throws you out the door;
I am the air that fills your lungs,
But leaves you emptier below;
I am the void that you can't explain,
But which is where you want to go.
Flame sucks between the balls of steel;
Nothing moves, the air itself congeals.
Look at the flame if you want to,
Hear the sharp crack of the fission,
Smell the brief vapor of ozone,
Feel static motion.
I am the love you try to hide,
But which all can understand;
I am the hate you still deny,
Though the blood is on your hands;
I am the peace you're searching for,
But you know you'll never find;
I am the pain you can't endure,
But which tingles in your mind.
Flame sucks between the balls of steel;
Nothing moves, the air itself congeals.
Look at the flame if you want to,
Hear the sharp crack of the fission,
Smell the brief vapor of ozone,
Feel static motion.
I am the joy you really pay for,
But which comes completely free;
I am your god on the final day,
For the truth is you and me
Hugh Banton was somewhat at forefront of stage presence. That angled keyboard stand is very commonly used now a days but not at all back in 1970.
Wow
Whatever "Robert" would have said...i am 4ll for it!!
Not a fan but the name of this band had been sprayed in letters 1 meter high onto the uutside of Cedars car park in Uxbridge West London for most of the 80s. Saw it nearly every weekend throughout my childhood, Was always curious what it meant.
And I bet my life those letters had been sprayed with an aerosol grey machine.
@@belin-teamdjokovic1628 By someone with balls of steel.
VDGG were the cream de la cream of early 70’s prog rock band’s
Jaxon, on backing vocals!
Il Rock festival di VILLA DORIA PAMPHILI a ROMA è stato sicuramente il più importante festival rock Italiano gruppi prestigiosi come PFM ORME BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO ed altre ancora note a chi ama il progrock e ospiti stranieri straordinari come i VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR , io non c'ero ma chi era presente visse dei momenti di musica indimenticabile !!!!!!!
Classic Prog
More VdGG please!
Grupooooopoteeee !!
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Darkest prog band out there
FESTIVAL POP
DI VILLA PAMPHILI DEL 1972: io c'ero!
Già solo che ti chiami Ugo Piazza sei un grande... il cappello mi devo levare!
Cazzo che festival grandioso dev’essere stato quello!
@@marcellotravenzoli6518 che te lo dico a fare!
Caro UGO io purtroppo non c'ero ero ancora minorenne e non trovai nessun amico maggiorenne che amava quel tipo di musica con cui potessi andare ad assistere al concerto evento!!!!!! Io ero già appassionato ascoltavo già JETHRO TULL PFM e stavo cominciando ad interessarmi anche ai VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR agli EL&P etc !!!!! Purtroppo come ti ho detto NON potei andarci, ho saputo che fu un evento musicale meraviglioso quello del pop allora si chiamava così non ROCK non prog , a VILLA DORIA PAMPHILI a ROMA fu una tre giorni giusto tipo Nostra ISOLA DI WIGHT o WOODSTOCK!!!!!! C'erano state bands, le nostre migliori in circolazione al tempo si era nel 1972 come PFM BANCO ORME NEW TROLLS QUELLA VECCHIA LOCANDA PROCESSION OSANNA ROVESCIO DELLA MEDAGLIA in cui al tempo vi era anche RICHARD BENSON rip o sbaglio??? E poi DELIRIUM BALLETTO DI BRONZO, praticamente tutta la miglior scena Prog Rock nostrana mancavano all'appello SOLO gli AREA per il semplice motivo che NON si erano neancora formati come band lo faranno di lì a breve!!!!! E poi Ospiti stranieri gli HOOKFOOT ma SOPRATTUTTO i meravigliosi straordinari VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR di PETER HAMMILL!!!!!! Che sono fra le bands che più AMO del Rock progressivo e NON solo!!!!!!! Tanti saluti da un appassionato di QUELLA musica 60/70 che qualche anno dopo Venne denominata PROGRESSIVE ROCK!!!!!!!
cool
Although I was too young,
I always considered that the
ultimate Underground scene
show would consist of VDGG
and WIGWAM (Finnish).
it's a shame Nic didn't hang around, they sound so much better with a full band
Even though I’ve been into rock in all its various genres I’ve not been too knowledgeable about these guys, but thoroughly enjoying listening to this. Anyone got any suggestions on where to start with their best stuff?
I think Pawn Hearts is a good place to start. It seems to be a little more accessible than most. But maybe that’s because it is where I started back in 73 or 74?
i wanna see some unreleased EARTH AND FIRE, i know there' some, ''Atlantis'' and others,....maybe also ''song of the marching children''
I say...cool!
Non Plus Ultra
Who else saw them at Plumpton?
Is “After The Flood” on here?
Soy la chupada de aire que tomas
I am the suck of air you take
Que has tenido muchas veces antes;
That you've had many times before;
Soy el golpe que intentas fingir,
I am the blow you try to fake,
Pero que todavía te tira por la puerta;
But which still throws you out the door;
Soy el aire que llena tus pulmones,
I am the air that fills your lungs,
pero te deja más vacío abajo;
But leaves you emptier below;
Soy el vacío que no puedes explicar,
I am the void that you can't explain,
Pero que es donde quieres ir.
But which is where you want to go.
La llama chupa entre las bolas de acero;
Flame sucks between the balls of steel;
Nada se mueve, el mismo aire se congela.
Nothing moves, the air itself congeals.
Mira la llama si quieres,
Look at the flame if you want to,
Escucha el agudo crujido de la fisión,
Hear the sharp crack of the fission,
Huele el breve vapor de ozono,
Smell the brief vapor of ozone,
Siente el movimiento estático.
Feel static motion.
Soy el amor que tratas de ocultar,
I am the love you try to hide,
Pero que todos puedan entender;
But which all can understand;
Soy el odio que aún niegas,
I am the hate you still deny,
Aunque la sangre esté en tus manos;
Though the blood is on your hands;
Soy la paz que buscas,
I am the peace you're searching for,
Pero sabes que nunca encontrarás;
But you know you'll never find;
Soy el dolor que no puedes soportar,
I am the pain you can't endure,
Pero que hormiguea en tu mente.
But which tingles in your mind.
La llama chupa entre las bolas de acero;
Flame sucks between the balls of steel;
Nada se mueve, el mismo aire se congela.
Nothing moves, the air itself congeals.
Mira la llama si quieres,
Look at the flame if you want to,
Escucha el agudo crujido de la fisión,
Hear the sharp crack of the fission,
Huele el breve vapor de ozono,
Smell the brief vapor of ozone,
Siente el movimiento estático.
Feel static motion.
Soy la alegría por la que realmente pagas,
I am the joy you really pay for,
Pero que viene completamente gratis;
But which comes completely free;
Yo soy tu dios en el último día,
I am your god on the final day,
Porque la verdad somos tú y yo
For the truth is you and me.
Pierwsza liga progresywnego rocka
Bloody Hell!
Look gentle giant-ish in this set
Ничего не понял но очень интересно
Peter je t'aime Peter! i love you !
Robert www
Very different from the vinyl. More in style of Fools Mate.
ELP ?
Certainly not.
sound like Bowie...
uh?
i hear you on that
Bowie was a good listener
That's true🙂.
Bowie was a huge fan of Peter Hammill and Van der Graaf Generator; he actually called himself "Poor man's Peter Hammill" in an interview once. He also was at the reunion concert of VdGG at the Royal Festival Hall on May 6th 2005.
Oddio i BEATLES sottovalutati mi sembra onestamente un po' esagerato,dato che forse sono la band più conosciuta al MONDO !!!!!!! Per il resto posso essere in linea di massima d'accordo anche se i LED ZEPPELIN non sono proprio degli sconosciuti, i GENESIS, certo i GENESIS di Peter Gabriel sono più di NICCHIA e quindi più underrated meglio gli altri GENESIS dei successi tipo invisible Touch ERANO molto più popolari !!!!!! Per quanto riguarda VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR YES e RUSH e non solo , sono pienamente d'accordo con chi pensa QUESTO!!!!!! Anzi TROVO VERAMENTE SCANDALOSO che i MITICI VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR non siano neancora inseriti nella ROCK nROLL HALL OF FAME!!!!! Lo trovo ASSOLUTAMENTE SCANDALOSO!!!!!! E poi per finire che PETER HAMMILL urla !!!!! Perché IAN GILLAN e BRUCE DICKINSON cosa fanno!!!???? Bisbigliano alle Orecchie???? Anzi BRUCE DICKINSON è quello che più si avvicina a PETER HAMMILL come STILE di canto!!!!!! E Hammill perché urla ???!!!! Primo perché nel suo STILE di canto c'è tutta la gamma delle emozioni umane, rabbia dolore gioia etc !!!!!! E secondo quando urla grida denuncia le cose che NON vanno è un artista musicista che è sempre stato contro il Sistema il music BIZ ilpop mainstream e quindi le urla quando ci stanno bene e Lui lo sa dove metterle nei suoi testi servono per svegliare le coscienze e per sensibilizzarle su argomenti e problemi sia esistenziali che di attualità ed altri di vari tipi!!!!! Ed Hammill è uno dei più BRAVI e GENIALI a saperlo FARE!!!!!! Poi guardando il filmato di questa straordinaria esibizione della band dove vi era ancora NIC POTTER al basso rip ho notato che HAMMILL indossa una maglietta Molto carina , vi è raffigurato TOPOLINO apprendista Stregone dal film FANTASIA!!!!! Bèh il progressive rock prende MOLTO dalla FANTASIA dall'immaginazione unita spesso da grande padronanza tecnica strumentale e la musica dei VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR è SPECIALE unica MAGICA direi!!!!!! Tornando a quello che ho detto prima sui GENESIS quel MEGLIO non voglio ESSERE frainteso significa che MEGLIO CONOSCIUTI rispetto a quelli con PETER GABRIEL che a me personalmente piacciono molto di più di quelli DOPO!!!!!!!
Fantastic!