I am a white Zimbabwean/Rhodesian and I'm proud of my British heritage. It's sad the Brits have lost patriotism. While I agree the corrupt UK government/media should be toppled, the fact remains you are Welsh and you are British. Wales, like Scotland, is not a separate island like Ireland is but is part of the island of Great Britain. I guess Ian Smith was right when he said we were more British than the British when I look at the Brits these days.
@ooo-w7q5x I have great compassion and sympathy for what African and Asian immigrants have experienced. They deserve Kindness, Compassion and Respect like everyone else. After all, my own family were once immigrants to Africa from the UK. However, we need to stop living in blame and victim mentality. The only way humanity can evolve and move forward is by putting aside our differences and treating one another, our planet and all living beings with Loving-Kindness, Compassion, Unity, Tolerance, Forgiveness, Peace and Respect.
Ironically, The Welsh and Cornish are considered to be among the most Brythonic (or Brittonic) people in the UK because they have preserved their ancient Celtic heritage and languages, which are direct descendants of the Brittonic languages spoken in Britain before the Romans, Viking, Anglo-Saxon and Norman invasions.
If someone decides your land is theirs and their language is yours, and takes your geographic name and spreads it all over, by invading almost every sovereign nation in the world in the name of imperialism; well that could maybe complicate using the same identifying term.
Why? When everyone was trying to be Imperialist, we were just the best at it. I’m extremely proud of what my ancestors did - we have a glorious history.
Fun fact: J.R.R. Tolkien was proud to be English but didn't identify as British. He disliked the idea of Britishness as being imperialistic and abandoning the Anglo-Saxon roots.
He fought for the Union jack in WWII... I love how people like to invent stuff on the internet. Tolkien did not dislike his britishness. He identified as British as he did English, specially out of his love for Wales, Scotland and Ireland.
I'm Welsh and happy to call.myself British I have mates who are English, in wars past and present we have united and fought and died in trenches , wherever you look online you see youngsters who hate our country, what is the matter with these sheep manipulated by social media to be ashamed of being British
I think the Welsh Dragon should be in the middle of the Union Jack. I think that'd be really cool! At the moment, Wales is assumed to be represented by the English flag in the Union Jack because historically it was kinda annexed by England. However, now Wales has their own Parliament I believe that their flag's emblem should be shown on the Union Jack.
At the end of the day we are on rock in a universe that bears no flags. Humans have been around for over 300 thousand years. It seems this argument is not only irrelevant but based on pride, ego and a sense of entitlement.
Exactly how it should be. Be proud of your country nothing wrong with that but don’t shit on England because of something someone did over 100 years ago. Acting like a bunch of victims saying they are oppressed when none of these idiots have ever known oppression.
Same here. Funny how people ask “why do you not support the English rugby team, and actively hope they lose”. That’s not the case for me. If playing against any other home nation (celtics) the I’ll support them. If England is playing a genuinely foreign nation, I’m with England
I was born in England and proud of it. Then as igot older i delved in to english history and am now thoroughly ashamed not of the people but the government and people in power. Everywhere they went they went as oppressors. Its so sad and i feel it in myheart in my old age.❤❤
As a proud English man I'm proud of my neighbors who proclaimed they were proud to be Welsh. The union is for mutual cooperation not "cultural dilution".
Well why can't Ireland be totally free? Why can't Scotland be free and Independent? It has worked out well for greater half of Ireland that is Independent...thriving economy and don't hear about people being jailed for a year for bad social media posts meanwhile others getting away with extreme violence & murder.
And I'm not conservative...yes I'm American...25% Irish 13% Scottish and 20% English (I imagine there's some Welsh in there too since my great uncle Elweiss was named for his grandma's surname & I'm pretty sure that's a Welsh name)
@@arcoiriserinyes you do? Ireland has a huge immigration crisis and has has riots & people labelled as racist for not being on board with mass population erosion
arcoiriserin Firstly you comment like a child or halfwit, bring a fully formed and balanced input, especially when nosing into other nations. Secondly he said the union is for “mutual cooperation” so there’s your answer. Also Ireland is locking people up for hurty words and letting others get away with violence it’s just as bad. You seem to have the wrong end of the stick and ran with it here? Leftwing globalism is the problem not England. Also Irish, Scottish, English and probably welsh ancestry makes you very British, congratulations, maybe one day you can help rebuild the motherland.
I call myself English. Not for any negative or standoffish reasons, only that it doesn’t make much conceptual sense given that Wales, Scotland and Ireland have distinct cultures. And if I were from there, I too would want to highlight my identity by their name, as these gents do
@@EmperorsNewWardrobe The denial of the cultural expression for English people started with BLAIR and HIS NEW LABOUR FRONT BENCH. Despicable comments about " the English as a race" made by some on thst front bench, would be considered as hate speech now!. People fast tracked into positions of high authority with scant knowledge of BRITISH and ENGLISH domestic history! Urbanites without care to the rural shires and the bustling market towns of ENGLAND 🏴 which , ff LABOUR now continues with the MISSION that BLAIR started will be concreted into oblivion as EU REGIONS and COMMUNITIES and all reference to St George and the rural agricultural customs which are the backbone of Great Britain denied and removed.
As a welshman I respect this. JRR Tolkien, writer of Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit said often that the term 'British' ignores the individual cultures of the British Isles.
If your from Wales your Welsh if your born in England your English if your from Scotland your Scottish if your born in Ireland your Irish all there own people and history.
@@dwj8620 it doesn't matter. The Welsh, Scottish, Cornish and Englishmen have all mixed with each other for 1,500+ years. True Brits = these 4 ethnicities.
@Octopusgivesyouahundo stop lying. The colour of your skin means something, that is the reality. Creatures with roots out of the upper global north made it a big deal and still enforce it, albeit covertly nowadays
@Octopusgivesyouahundo Loving yourself isn't about being egotistical. It's just about being happy. If you're happy with yourself and you care about yourself, it's probably because you love yourself. You take care of the things you love. It's a problem when you then project that self love onto others negatively. Also very much disagree that you cannot be proud of your nationality. Especially the point about culture being meaningless. If culture was meaningless, why on earth would I bother to go to Norway? To Spain? To Poland? To Japan? To Egypt? To Mexico? Culture is why. Culture and history. Not to mention that culture is a very broad collection of things.. from food, to values, to language, laws, institutions, traditions, societal norms and so on. A world without culture and love and pride for it is a boring world. It's just important that we don't tear down others in raising ourselves up. That's the difference between being a patriot, and a nationalist.
@Octopusgivesyouahundo We've all done terrible things, I know I certainly have. I used to be a horrible person, absolutely awful. I will never forgive myself for a lot of it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to cling onto it and dislike myself for it. I'll be honest, I of all people shouldn't really be saying this because I'm not very happy and my life is a bit of a mess at the moment.. but the whole point is that when we make mistakes, we learn from them. We get better. Why feel negative about something that is no longer a part of you? If you used to be a bully, but no longer are, why would you treat yourself as if you are still a bully? It's about past and present. I used to be a terrible person, now I don't believe I am. The mind is powerful, often it takes only believing something for it to become reality. Whether that being because you now recognise something you didn't or because you changed to become that way. We are what we make ourselves to be. Clinging onto negative perceptions of yourself benefits nobody, it's stubbornness for the sake of stubbornness.
Thanks, I hope you're proud too. I'm not just Welsh, I'm north Walian, we weren't properly colonized/industrialised like the south so we're all being retarded, poor and getting drunk in fields like some third world country and I wouldn't have it any other way, the English have been the ''Actually getting shit done'' Brits.
Sort of, they have a long history that goes back centuries and centuries. They're also the only country in the UK that doesn't have a part of their flag, meshed into the UK's Union Jack flag haha. Look up the parts of what makes a UK flag, it's England, Northern Ireland and Scotland's flag put together.
I don't really get being proud of your country. You can be proud of having _served_ your country, or representing your country at sports, sure, those are personal sacrifices or achievements. Personally, I like being English (I can take the heat), but I'm neither proud nor ashamed of it. It is what it is--I'm English, my DNA is specifically from South West of London. What is all this nationalistic ding dong really about?? Love your neighbour as yourself, that's the real objective.
@@satsumamoonnot true anyway. People across the west recognise multiple identities based on their heritage, African American for example. They’re American, absolutely, but a lot of them want to recognise their African heritage
I think the fact of the matter is that people aren't necessarily "proud" to be British, but they're content with the Union. They're proud of their own cultures and history which is something they should absolutely be proud of.
Yeh i can safely day that 90 % of the brittish are content with it but not likeing it but as an englishman im proud of my country and history ( not all tho)
@AnnesleyPlaceDub70 I will say that during the famine we did actually send resources however the guy who was in charge of distributing them hated the Irish and wanted them to die
@@DADA_._ It’s weird, like on every post about Wales even if it’s on good light there’s like tens of people like you who comment just disgusting (and factually incorrect) things about men that went to war with your grandfathers to keep each other safe in trenches, how families loved each other and realised how amazing the other person was despite where they were born, you put all the country’s people and history to the side just to post a ‘gotcha’ comment. the Spanish conquered Peru and their main language is Spanish, does that mean Peruvians are Spanish then? Do yourself a favour and realise just because you like a narrative, doesn’t make it correct, have a good one
I'm proud to be English, and proud to be British, 🏴 🇬🇧 and love touring around the UK and Ireland been to pretty much everywhere decent and crap but South Wales is 100% my favourite place to visit
@hc3820 The English have been rather late in the game where national identity is concerned. Maybe they were so secure in their Englishness that they didn't feel the need to draw attention to it. Over the last 20 plus years, the St George's cross has lost its 'far right' connotations and is proudly flown and worn at sporting events. I, as a Welshman, welcome it. It has as much right to be flown as those of the other three nations! 🏴
I'm Welsh AND very proud to be British..and proud to have served with English, Scottish, Northern Irish and of course my fellow Welshmen and Women! 🏴🏴🏴🇬🇬🇬🇧
British means English. It means invading and colonising a quarter of the planet, beginning with Wales. It's a shameful thing. The union jack is a symbol of oppression.
Can we start saying Westminster instead of England literally every English town outside London has been abused in the same way as the Welsh and Scottish.
@zarni000 Aye tell that to the Irish who had to come here over 100 and 200 years ago for work who built or towns worked in mines and now there decendents are proud English/british 👏 🇬🇧
The people we now call Welsh are the original British People. They were here 10,000 years before the English arrived. People from England are shy about calling themselves English. They prefer "British" mainly because they think they own the entire island.
A British person is someone from the British Isles. The term dates back over 1600 years. The Welsh are technically one of the original British peoples before the Anglo-Saxons invaded (who are now the English). Its strange how the people in the video are claiming to not be British when they should really be owning it.
Yes but British is not a Welsh thing like Britain was made by the Romans then later adapted to Saxons made up to link us together we where here before the great flood we are not British it's politics to merge us to do what they want like laws etc we are Welsh not British get over it is like saying just bend over
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@@dan32113 according to the max plank institut Hamburg there a counties in England with over 60% Saxon DNA😳..... you'll find celtic DNA mainly at the edges of Britain
@@alynwillams4297The word Britain comes from the Celtic word Pretani. The Welsh, Scottish, Manx, Cornish and Cumbrians are the original Britons. He can be both because he is. Not like those Saxon/Norman twats.
@@NoxiousKnight-h6o Being Welsh is entirely separate from being British. “British” is little more than a disguise for English dominance, dissolving the uniqueness of Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland under a single label. Wales has its own culture, language, and history, all distinct from England’s, yet “British” sweeps these differences aside, pushing us into a narrative that suits England. To be Welsh is to be part of a proud and ancient heritage that doesn’t need the British label an identity that thrives on its own, not as some afterthought in an English centred “United Kingdom.”
@pickleboii4209 does your passport say welsh citizen or British it sess British not welsh citizen you fly some where then you need your brish passport there is no wales passport we not a fully foarm country we are a poor country not intelligent to be independent think for ourselves we use to be over 100 years ago i use to think like you not to long ago then i grew up im from and born in wales my country is 🇬🇧
Why are they saying 'English' for British when it was Scottish King James who wanted a Union of the countries when he became King of Scotland, Wales, England and Ireland? He ordered a British flag to be made and even named it after himself. Plenty of English people don't want to be called British either but these folks insist of calling us that, yet don't like being called British themselves. If English people have to be called British then the Scottish definitely should be..
@@davidlittle7182 No, that's not why. But I'm saying that they haven't mixed much with the English. They have very little Anglo-Saxon DNA and look very distinct from the English.
Here in my country, Argentina, there are important settlements of Welsh people in Chubut. They came fleeing from the English power. Currently, their descendents are really proud of their legacy and they still identify like Welsh😍
Cheer~~~the Celtic language of Wales, spoken by about 500,000 people (mainly bilingual in English). Descended from the Brythonic language spoken in most of Roman Britain, it has been strongly revived after a long decline.😊
We didn't need another language, why did they dig up the virtually dead Welsh language? The Kids who go to Welsh language schools don't. speak Welsh outside of school and don't speak it when they leave school, English will always come first, never the waste of space Welsh language.
@@Shaniflewogthe entire island is British it's the english that tried it and to be fair then you have to hate so many countries it's just not worth getting mad over something that happened centuries ago history is to be learned from
@@michaelrb9837 British Celts do come from Britain though, being descendants of the earlier Neolithic and Bronze Age people of Britain, rather than waves of Celtic invaders from the mainland. Those of Brittany came to France from Cornwall, to escape the Anglo-Saxons. But being Celt isn't what I mean by the "Welsh are the most British", I mean that their genetics are mostly British rather than Anglo-Saxon, or Norse, or Frankish.
@@IkarosWaltz Mis informed when the Anglos were there to protect the celts. You could have shortened this because basic google search will tell you the Celts come from mainland Europe from countries like Switzerland, Czech Republic and Germany and Britanny France you’re mis informed. Also what have the celts done since?? All great inventions and great moments came from England like the Industrial Revolution. Without entailed nobody would know Britain even existed. This whole page and video is just an Anglophile page to discriminate on the English it’s sickening
@@Carlos12330 Wales' fiscal deficit per capita of £4,300 is the second highest of the economic regions, after the Northern Ireland fiscal deficit, which is nearly £5,000 per capita. That’s now, not 60 years ago. It’s a shame the Welsh education system is so poor
@ fiscal deficit is bull💩 it doesn’t take into account NNDR or corporation tax which goes directly to the exchequer then we’ll look at the profit the crown estates make in Wales and thats before we get down to the water and energy that just disappears over the border , what are you so frightened about? That Wales and Scotland would probably be better served being independent and that England becomes more irrelevant🤔
The last guy was English? No real Welshman sounds like that now do they. And Cardiff is the least Welsh place in wales (especially nowadays) Gotta love the good old Islamic stores and mosques everywhere, how wholesome is that 😊 I never want to step foot in Cardiff until they sort it out lol
@@stevendoesvlogs2293 Sorry mate, we have freedom of religion here, obviously though the majority choice of faith is none in Wales, so actually by your logic do you also want to get rid of all christian churches?
As a descendant of welsh immigrants, im proud to be welsh. My ancestors came from normandy during the norman invasion. And still have faily in brecknockshire.
Trev, You're a Brit - Not "bRiTiSh". The biggest con the Anglo Saxons ever did was to convince you that you weren't Brits and had to become a caricature of one [in their image, and in their language/tongue]. Cariad fawr o Gymru - Much love from Cymru
@@ComeRee So do I but I’m not into the concept of Britain where the largest of its constituent nations, due to population size, dictates to the rest of the smaller ones. The Sots, Welsh and N.Irish don’t have democracy as 55-60m people will always outvote the rest !!
@@100geemo78 Totally agree my friend. If this was an equal union - the UK government would be equitable by number of nations within the nation state, and not based on populous. If the UK acted like a mini-EU, we may actually achieve unity and equity amongst these shared isles - but unfortunately the English want it both ways. Either, to dominate under an inbred royal family and their empire, or, to culturally appropriate all of the good things from the other nations within the UK as their own [making "Britishness" a synonym for "Englishness"]. For example: If you do good and come from Scotland / Cymru / N.Ireland - you're called British ["Andy Murray wins Wimbledon, a British best!"] Though, If you do bad and come from Scotland / Cymru / N.Ireland - then you're Scottish / Welsh / N.Irish ["Andy Murray loses Wimbledon, a Sloppy Scottish failure!"] *HOWEVER* If you come from England and do good, you're called English [Hoorah! For King and country!"] Though, if you do bad and come from England - you're called "British". ["British people caught rioting at a national football match... *reads in small print* 10 men from Kent [England] .."
@@AthelstansSuccessor Hey Ffyc-Face, England has 541MPs [gained 8], Cymru has 32MPs [lost 8], Scotland has 57MPs and N.I. has 11MPs. When the barnett formula has left Cymru underfunded disproportionately for decades - you're actually not far off - as we've been left in the middle ages. Robbed £4billion from HS2 [named an England and Wales project but only ever planned to be built in England - where Scotland and N.I. were compensated]. Our patron saint isn't even recognised with a bank holiday or represented on the Union Jack [our dragon would go no where near that butchers apron]. Just because you're a privileged ffyc-nutt-from-next-door, doesn't mean you get to spew your ignorant entitled rhetoric onto those who have to pay for your government as well as our own. When we get less out than what we put into this [so called] union - I bet you can't name a single positive of us staying as a union. Where - before you say we're not worth anything/more hastle to keep around: let us be independent. We're the only Britons in Britain that speak Brittonic... everyone else speaks Germanic or Gaelic [i.e. tongues that didn't originate here]. Keep calm and carry on crying ya salty brit~ish gammon. Stay your side of the border.
@@roflomaozedong boo hoo they live a free life in one of the worlds freest societies. Think about people who do not have that right. Basically this is all about hate really. Should think themselves lucky
@roflomaozedong they live in one of the freest societies in the world. Get a grip yer daft bastards they don't know how lucky they are. There are children in other countries that would give their right arm and leg to be where you ungrateful leek munchers are. Yer can't shag a flag but them poor sheep.
I am English and proud to be British. The never ending victim mentality of some Welsh and especially Scottish politicians to gain political power has caused that.
They also conveniently forget that the Acts of Union were brought in by the Welsh House of Tudor and that the Crowns of England and Scotland were united under a Scottish king. Typical of the modern era to play the victim olympics, especially now that Britain no longer holds the power it once did and the pervading international narrative is anti-British; during the 1800s there were plenty of Welsh and Scottish folks who were more than happy to be partaking in the building of the Empire and reaping its profits, no little wonder separatist-nationalism increased during the waning years and end of the Empire. And that is by no means to decry them for retaining or being proud of their culture, by all means I fully support it, but the victimhood they seek is duplicitous and silly let alone counterproductive.
If this was a truly random set of interviews without editing out certain responses, this straw poll tells us more about the ignorance of knowing what Britain is and therefore what being "British" means.
I think a lot of Welsh people have a very good take on this. No Welsh person is actively angry or upset about being a part of the union. But surely English people that know the history can't expect Welsh people to be happy with it. The castles here were built to slaughter and control us. We suffered persecution and Xenophobia on a disgusting level. We were banned from speaking Welsh and there are many historical accounts from English people stereotyping Welsh people as stupid and primitive. Even today the whole "sheep shagger" insult is a form of Xenophobia akin to "Asians eat dogs" or "Africans eat chicken and Watermelon ".
I said it once I'll say it again. did you listen in Geography if not I'll explain it for you. The UK is made up of wales Scotland England and northern Ireland and is situated on the island of Britain. The British isles has three countries on it which are Scotland Wales and England. Like it or not that's just basic geography. Which is why the people in the vid who say they aren't British are being stupid like it or not it's true.
@@DOG-MEAT That's your opinion Come here too ireland the british isles does not exist our government do not recognise that term it does not exist here Foreigners don't name these islands.
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@Marz4774CK5 kept everything lol. Wales and scotland pay taxes for the upkeep of the English royals. The crown owns tons of land and properties all over Scotland and Wales and pays 0 taxes on it. The welsh and Scottish language were essentially outlawed and forgotten. U cannot be serious
@Marz4774CK5 what language. Welsh was almost dead a few decades ago. It's only now they've started reviving it. And still it's only about 15% of population of wales know any welsh.
Which is British, which is also European, which is also Terran (from earth), which also means they’re a Milky Wayian (lol maybe there will be a correct term for that one day)
@@fredlewis6527 Europeans yes, but not British. English language, which is Germanic, culture so on are different from the one of Welsh, Scottish and Irish
@@armankamal332but you speak English. There might be slight nuances in culture but no more so than a scouser is culturally different to someone from Kent and that's even more so for North Wales. Is Wrexham and Rhyl really Welsh culturally? Really? They're not are they? No one in Britain had their original culture. English people aren't Saxon in culture. What used to be Danelaw aren't Norse. The British isles (that includes Ireland) have far more in common culturally than not. There's the odd little nuance. The Welsh rattle animals, the Scottish burn spoons, the English all hate each other mainly because of football and this the fact that someone had the absolute audacity to have a different accent to them, the Irish hate each other but over politics and potatos but aside from that everyone's the same. A prod from England had more in common with a Catholic from Ireland than either do with an American for example. Even those Americans that genuinely believe they're Irish
With respect to our Welsh cousins ( and English and NI) In the last census almost 70% of Scots identified as Scottish not British. It's nothing to do with loving or hating English people. It's because Scots are learning not to be second best in their own country any more and with each new generation the figure has increased for decades now. Many English people conflate being British with being English, it's like ( as some people have illustrated here) forcing English culture onto people who are not English. People who grew up in England or elsewhere won't understand these Welsh guys ( or Scots or Irish) Because they weren't subjected to the indoctrination of English Britishness. Having your own language and culture suppressed ( English only in schools, frowned on elsewhere but we spoke Scots at home) in our own country. History taught in school was very detailed English history. Scots history was a sheet of A4 with the births and deaths of Scots Kings and Queens. No detail- over a thousand years of history on a sheet of A4. There's a lot of other ways the British state tried to eradicate Welsh, Scots and Irish identity and culture. It worked on many as it worked on the guy who said " that was years ago, get over it" It was years ago, it is also right now every day. I saw a kid at my primary school thrown out of class because he said "aye" Yes in his own language. Scotland is on the British Iles geographically so personally am not offended being called British but I ( like the vast majority of Scots) identity as Scottish. That's a choice no one else can make for me. I don't hate English people. Amazing country and history. I'm actually very fond of my English family and friends of whom there are many. Imagine as an English person having French culture forced onto you in your own country? Might smart a bit? Hope this goes some way to explain some of the attitudes in the video. It's not about hate of the English, it's about respect for ourselves."
@@bullerd82 Being “British” has always meant Welsh identity being overshadowed, our resources drained, and our culture sidelined to serve English interests. Sure, we’ve been dragged into English wars and labeled as “brothers,” but it’s always Wales giving more than it gets. English rule has taken our wealth, controlled our land, and acted like we’re just another piece of “Britain” to use as it pleases. Pride in Welsh history means standing up for ourselves not blending into some British identity that’s only ever benefitted England.
It's funny because I think Britishness is old than England. The Welsh speakers felt British before the Anglo-Saxons even came to this island. Where I live in Southern Scotland has been referred to, in conjuction with Northern England as Yr Hen Ogledd, the Old North, in historic times. British doesn't have the connotation of being English to me. Those concepts are quite separate. Britishness suggests partnership between nations to acknowledge something bigger than our local identities. To concentrate on what we have in common. Like the fact this interview, as the Scottish equivalent was also, carried out in a British variant of English. For me, engaging with people from around Britain and many other places emphasises what humans have in common. The differences between people on this island don't seem so great seen in that context.
I am proud to be both Welsh and British. Proud of our long Welsh history, culture and language, but also proud that most of us are not holding a grudge going back centuries, as there are no living people today who had anything whatsoever to do with what happened centuries ago, so why would I blame them?
I reserve pride for something i have done or created. I cannot be proud of something that happens by someone elses efforts. Im proud of my daughter, my work ethic and any other of my sporting achievements. Im English, and happy to be so.
The welsh are part of the original Britons, as well as people who lived in Dumnonia, etc. It's a bit funny seeing them say they're proud to be non British, despite technically being directly associated with British, a.k.a Britons, as by their heritage. In a way, they are more British than the English.
Almost all modern English also have brytbonic dna. This idea that the saxons genocide the celts and forced them into Wales and Scotland is just plain wrong.
Fun fact: the British government forcibly moved an entire welsh village, just so they could flood it and turn it into a reservoir. This was in the 60s. EDIT- So there's a few people here simping for Westminster, justifying this. It was also illegal to speak Welsh in Wales up until 1967. Let's see what kind of mental gymnastics it takes to justify that.
@Racing_Fox the welsh language was banned until 1967. I guess since some third world dictatorship also bans languages somewhere, then that's okay too. 👍
I am Welsh before all else . British has never entered my vocabulary . I have no problem with it but would never use it to describe my self or my immediate family
@@HuynhOutside Probably because the English tried their best to kill off the Welsh language, meaning generations never got the opportunity to learn it. Let’s be honest, you all hate that it’s gaining popularity again don’t you!
To be fair, I'm English and I feel nothing for The Union. It's the 21st Century. Time to go our separate ways. Respect our neighbours. Co-operate on matters of mutual interest, but respect every nation's right to self-determination, even England.
Sound just like Balkan people do. That is how people in former Yugoslavia countries used to talk. Every valley should be it's own little weak country. Every tribe should have it's own ethno nationalism. Britain is a great country and small minded people like you would see it nothing more than a collection of tribes.
Ian Worley, you have contries of distinct languages and cultures, yes, but they occupy an island of no great size. In the eyes of the rest of the world, Britain is better off as a conglomerate. Get over yourselves and get along better.
Yeah it would be good for England to keep all that money and give our own free prescriptions, free university etc, instead of paying for the Welsh and Scots to do it instead!
I am half English and half Welsh. I have a Welsh surname. I love both countries deeply. The English longbow came from the Welsh longbow. But the English used it to greater effect.
You say that while every English comment is calling ye sheep snagging savages with no history I'm irish and ye welsh are lost for good ye accept abuse like dogs in a halting site Complete veggies.
Fun fact: the word "British" (or "Britanni" in Latin) is the ancient world name for the original CELTIC population of this archipelago which was called after them "the British Isles"! That explains also the name of the French peninsula region of Britanny, because it was there were many 5th century Celtic refugees from Cornwall and Wales settled down after having fled from the Germanic (Anglo-Saxon) invaders.
You can't reason with these nationalists. I say this as a proud Briton with an English father, Welsh mother. Because of the hype about "Scottish independence.", the whole world has latched onto this solely to aim at England. Most Englishmen don't even think about Scotland and Wales, so they don't care, but because of today's demographic problem, the native Britons of the UK (English, Scottish, Welsh, Cornis) NEED to stand together as fellow British people, and then decide if they still want be part of the UK. Also, more and more Englishmen are embracing their English identity.
@@FedericoDLP you have no connection to us, you are Spaniard/Italian. The British Isles is all mixed with Germanic, Celtic, and Norse ancestry, no such thing as having one ancestry.
@@ShireTommy_1916_Somme-Mametz My DNA test says I have mostly Celtic DNA from Spain, France and Northern Italy, then a bit less from the Basque country, then a bit from Ireland, Scotland and Germanic Europe. Ask before you assume. And I do not want any connection with the stupid English, donkey.
I love when every time I go on holiday in wales, nearly every house and business has a Welsh flag. It’s a pride like no other and I admire that completely.
That very subject came up on the Antiques Roadshow last Sunday, they were in Wales and one of the experts was Welsh. Someone had a wooden board with WN carved into it and apparently it was used in schools, if a child spoke Welsh they had to wear this big piece of wood around their neck, it was called a Welsh Not, as not to speak Welsh. Barbaric.
@@mariac2441 Our Taid was punished everyday for speaking Welsh. If another child had the board he would deliberately speak in Welsh to take the burden away from the other child.
@jemmajames6719 I'm irish from a family that didn't speak Irish, i went right through school with Irish language lessons and i still dont know more than a few words and that never bothered me, but the point was that they should have been allowed to speak Welsh if they wanted to, and not be humiliated like that.
Most English are equally proud to be English and British as are very many or most welsh and ulster people. Its kind of weird thinking how Scots can’t see both at once. Also having lived in Scotland, it seems more of a sub culture overall, I won’t judge but you hate each other as much as “us” I don’t see the comraderie and cultural immutability nor do I see things working out with only a tiny 5 million outwardly influenced scots. Is Scottish national mostly just bonkers leftwing politics or what? I genuinely can’t tell anymore?
@davidoftheglen3447 always had a great laugh with Scots when they've visited for the rugby. I always say I'm Welsh and celtic never British. Cymru am byth!
Seems like you asked people attending a Wales international football match? Where pride for Wales as a nation is the most important thing and might be seen as contrasting with British pride in that particular context? Why would you ask that question in that very particular setting unless you were looking for a very particular outcome?
Also, most Welsh do not yet seek independence. A vast majority don't. Asking nationalists what they identify with will give a predictable predetermined answer. They think that independence will give them many things they don't already have and things they think they're missing, they already have. They don't even know what independence would give them, yet they want it, and they expect that independence will have no problems they won't complain about later. Then they can't fault the UK for that. That's their problem at that point. Leaving the UK would make them weaker, not stronger. Because if they leave the UK, then Wales' various regions can make independence calls as well(Dyfed, Powys, Gwynedd, Gwent, West Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan, South Glamorgan, Clwyd and Anglessey), further fracturing Wales and the British Isles into weaker, not stronger, petty states. And then they would still be Welsh, all of them. And in the future, what stops those regions from fracturing into independent sovereign states also? Eventually a unified Welsh would in such a scenario where the regions would want independence from a unified Wales, just result in another Brexit move Wales-style, and then some folks in the regions that don't get independence would complain about that, just like these guys seeing unification and one-ness with the UK as a negative thing, and they would still be a minority group among the greater regional population, meaning that they would not represent the common voice or opinion. The point of the United Kingdom is to be UNIFIED, standing as one for strength, not to take anything away. You are not weaker for standing together. That's why we have NATO, Britain being one of the founders of NATO. Ernest Bevin, an English British trade union leader and politician who was a member of the British Labour Party and became one of its most prominent leaders, was the main drive behind NATO, so you could say that NATO was originally a British idea. Like, these people already have all the rights they need to sustain a happy life. The rest is just pride. Dumb pride. Independence in the form of a sovereign state won't do anything. They won't get much else that they don't already have. No one forces them to speak English, yet they speak English as a first language, but wants to be distinct from Britain(I know Wales have started to revive Welsh and making it more common though). Strange, if they think Britishness has a negative connotation. They should start speaking Cymric, Welsh, as a first language if they are truly proud of being Welsh. These guys are a small minority in Wales. They do not represent the larger voice of the Welsh people as a whole. Ask a good portion of the vast majority of the people in Wales, and they will give a very different answer to what these guys said. They will have no problem with being associated with Great Britain or being British, while also still being Welsh. You CAN be two things at once. It doesn't have to be one or the other. These men act as if they lose something from recognizing being British, as if they cannot be Welsh and British at the same time. They don't lose their identity by admitting that they are British, being part of the UK. They're still Welsh even if they'd admit to being British also, just like most Scots still admit to being British, while also being Scottish at the same time, and most Irish also see themselves as British, while also recognizing that they are Irish, and all of them still have a unique culture from the rest of the UK. They still have the same rights. They can learn any language they like, they can eat whatever they like, they can buy whatever they like, they have sallaries, good sallaries for a lot of Welsh people in Wales, they have jobs, they can go wherever they like in the world, they can stay indoors for as long as they like, they can stay outside for as long as they like, they can say whatever they like, they can watch whatever they like, etc. They have every single right that the English, Scots and the Irish do. There is no difference in how they are treated, no injustice brought down upon them, no special treatment for English as opposed to Welsh, Scots or Irish people. Yet they want more. They aren't treated unfairly, yet they seem to think so. They say they are proud to be Welsh, yet I bet these guys don't speak a lot of or even an ounce of their nation's language, namely Cymric, or Cymraeg, which is a part of their national heritage. Ludicrous. Shunning, resenting or outright rejecting the UK only isolates them socially from the UK and the world as a whole if they see the UK as an enemy, or something bad in general, as if though they are still living in the Middle Ages, living under the oppression of King Edward I(who did in fact oppress the Welsh, and the Scots, seeking to supress an uprising rebellion against the English Crown), and before the late 1900's. It's stupid. These guys are very conservative in a negative way. They have a backwards view on what Britain or being British is. They aren't even oppressed or treated unfairly, or the British government would have these men arrested for simply speaking their mind on the matter if they were truly oppressed or treated negatively. If anything, they're being unfair to Britain for giving them what they want, except for independene(which they don't need to lead full and happy, healthy lives). They take their freedom for granted and they use that freedom to condemn Britain, or the British government of today, for something they're not even guilty of. They should be grateful they have the rights that they have, living in one of the most foremost and one of the most wealthy and prosperous nations in the world and being able to enjoy the benefits that come with that, and that they don't live in a third world country like Afghanistan. An independent Wales would be nowhere near as well off as being part of the UK.
No one forces them to speak English yet the English are the reason why most of us don't speak Welsh, they would actively punish those speaking Welsh by giving them the welsh knot and tried to erase our culture, the English even drowned one of our villages to supply drinking water Cofiwch dryweryn.@@Khornedevotee I can guarantee you that most Welsh people identify with being Welsh more so than british speaking as a Welsh person myself. You don't understand the plight of our people so don't pretend to
I don't care to call myself British, but... British doesn't mean "associated with England", it means you're from the British isles. Welsh is a subset of that It's like saying you're proud to be a human but you don't like being a mammal
Bryt is actually the ancient Welsh ethnonym that existed before the Cymry became widespread. So this is Welsh, Cornish and Britons, who are actually British
I was thinking the same bro. Some of this comments really had me somewhat confuse. They're still British bc they were born in one of these islands, and this is the island of great britain. So they can be both British and Welsh/scottish. However, I do agree that they are also their own and if they prefer to be called only Welsh/Scottish i gonna respect that and call them that way tho.
@@TOFB Blimey, there are an awful lot of misguided references to them then. I just looked on Wikipedia for starters and there were pages and pages right there.
They should be saying proud to be Cymry, the word welsh was given to the cymry by the Anglo-Saxons and means foreigner..ps wales happens to be in Britain.
Especially south wales we want nothing to do with the lot of them, they destroyed our lives and towns, stopping the only form of income with coal mining and then letting the towns fall into irreversible poverty without giving a single helping hand. The only people it benefited was the English, whilst wales has been left to rot where has the help been from Britain? The billions sent to country’s around the world yet we got nothing. Ukraine is Russian. It always was yet people defend the Ukrainians for wanting to be Ukraine and not run by Russia. Yet when Scottish and Welsh say they want nothing to do with England and Britain they are forced to bow down to the powers above. Makes sense don’t it 😂😂
In the modern sense of the term when people hear "British" they think everything associated with England. Not saying I personally do, but most people outside of the Celtic Isles seem to.
Every home nation was given the opportunity to express their nationhood except England. Government intentionally eroded Englishness and replaced it with this wishy-washy notion of 'Britishness before Englishness'. During the imperial era, the idea of 'Britishness' was only for export, back home it was English Welsh Scottish Irish or Ulster Scot.
As I white 46 year old bold English man, that loves football… I salute you the Welsh, Scottish and Irish. You all punch way above your heads and succeed. Unfortunately If I say “I’m proud to be English” I’m seen as racist.
@@MartyP1978 But who is it calling English Brits as racist? Most recently it has been SOME people in Scotland, Wales and Ireland? This encouraged by the EU CENTRIC WESTMINSTER LONDON PARLIAMENT and its MEDIA. No apology for capitals as the anti- English / British narrative has come from Rht Hons from all over these islands, sitting in the BRITISH TAXPAYER funded Palaces of self - entitled governance in LONDON!
Stop being a victim. Nobody is calling u racist for saying ur proud to be British. It might be the fact that alot of time the people that say the same thing happen to be in the racist groups. In my humble opinion (albeit unsolicited) I think u should try an separate ur pride from the racist groups pride, maybe show the world that Britishness is more than colonialism an oppression. Show everyone that ur one of the good ones! Then we could all be proud of u an Britain! 👍🏾
@ for a start I’m saying “English” not British… there is a massive difference. Nobody alive in Britain today did any colonisation. You obviously think we still owe the world an apology.
The only one proud to be british was the only one with an english accent 😂
The only man there.... they're British whether they like it or not😂🤦♂️
Wales has more than one accent mate
I am a white Zimbabwean/Rhodesian and I'm proud of my British heritage. It's sad the Brits have lost patriotism. While I agree the corrupt UK government/media should be toppled, the fact remains you are Welsh and you are British. Wales, like Scotland, is not a separate island like Ireland is but is part of the island of Great Britain. I guess Ian Smith was right when he said we were more British than the British when I look at the Brits these days.
@ooo-w7q5x I have great compassion and sympathy for what African and Asian immigrants have experienced. They deserve Kindness, Compassion and Respect like everyone else. After all, my own family were once immigrants to Africa from the UK. However, we need to stop living in blame and victim mentality. The only way humanity can evolve and move forward is by putting aside our differences and treating one another, our planet and all living beings with Loving-Kindness, Compassion, Unity, Tolerance, Forgiveness, Peace and Respect.
Your not alone, a lot of people think my Welsh daughter is a Scouser! Depends on what part of Wales you're from.
Ironically, The Welsh and Cornish are considered to be among the most Brythonic (or Brittonic) people in the UK because they have preserved their ancient Celtic heritage and languages, which are direct descendants of the Brittonic languages spoken in Britain before the Romans, Viking, Anglo-Saxon and Norman invasions.
Very boring statement that.
@@JonJonJonJonJonJonJonJontell us you are an uneducated bastard without using those words, well done
@@JonJonJonJonJonJonJonJonvery informative statement that.
If someone decides your land is theirs and their language is yours, and takes your geographic name and spreads it all over, by invading almost every sovereign nation in the world in the name of imperialism; well that could maybe complicate using the same identifying term.
Why? When everyone was trying to be Imperialist, we were just the best at it. I’m extremely proud of what my ancestors did - we have a glorious history.
Fun fact: J.R.R. Tolkien was proud to be English but didn't identify as British. He disliked the idea of Britishness as being imperialistic and abandoning the Anglo-Saxon roots.
He did support the Empire though.
He fought for the Union jack in WWII... I love how people like to invent stuff on the internet. Tolkien did not dislike his britishness. He identified as British as he did English, specially out of his love for Wales, Scotland and Ireland.
@@Alejojojo6he fought in WW1 not WW2 pal.
That’s because he was Saxon -he was of German descent
@@Alejojojo6. Just like how you made up that he fought in ww2 when he was well into middle age at that point
I'm Welsh and happy to call.myself British I have mates who are English, in wars past and present we have united and fought and died in trenches , wherever you look online you see youngsters who hate our country, what is the matter with these sheep manipulated by social media to be ashamed of being British
The Welsh and the Scottish people are proud to be from the land of their birth and that’s how it should be 🏴🏴
If only Northern Ireland was like this some still support their oppressors 😢
So are us English, but apparently we’re racist if we are proud of being English.
I think the Welsh Dragon should be in the middle of the Union Jack. I think that'd be really cool! At the moment, Wales is assumed to be represented by the English flag in the Union Jack because historically it was kinda annexed by England. However, now Wales has their own Parliament I believe that their flag's emblem should be shown on the Union Jack.
At the end of the day we are on rock in a universe that bears no flags. Humans have been around for over 300 thousand years. It seems this argument is not only irrelevant but based on pride, ego and a sense of entitlement.
And that is Britain
Even as an English person I've never understood the whole British thing. I am English. Welsh are Welsh, Scots are Scots we should all be proud of that
You're also British.
English are English, Scottish are Scottish, Welsh are Welsh, yes.. but all are still British.
I put English as my nationality on a form and got told off once, like I'm English, I have no Welsh Scottish or northern Irish blood so I'm English
We live on a small island called Britain
@@Deeejjj64but it’s not a small island 😂 it’s the 6th biggest island in the world.
Welsh first then British. Proud to be both🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
Same
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Me too!!
Exactly how it should be. Be proud of your country nothing wrong with that but don’t shit on England because of something someone did over 100 years ago. Acting like a bunch of victims saying they are oppressed when none of these idiots have ever known oppression.
Same here. Funny how people ask “why do you not support the English rugby team, and actively hope they lose”.
That’s not the case for me. If playing against any other home nation (celtics) the I’ll support them. If England is playing a genuinely foreign nation, I’m with England
I was born in England and proud of it. Then as igot older i delved in to english history and am now thoroughly ashamed not of the people but the government and people in power. Everywhere they went they went as oppressors. Its so sad and i feel it in myheart in my old age.❤❤
As a proud English man I'm proud of my neighbors who proclaimed they were proud to be Welsh. The union is for mutual cooperation not "cultural dilution".
f the british is all i hear
Well why can't Ireland be totally free? Why can't Scotland be free and Independent? It has worked out well for greater half of Ireland that is Independent...thriving economy and don't hear about people being jailed for a year for bad social media posts meanwhile others getting away with extreme violence & murder.
And I'm not conservative...yes I'm American...25% Irish 13% Scottish and 20% English (I imagine there's some Welsh in there too since my great uncle Elweiss was named for his grandma's surname & I'm pretty sure that's a Welsh name)
@@arcoiriserinyes you do? Ireland has a huge immigration crisis and has has riots & people labelled as racist for not being on board with mass population erosion
arcoiriserin Firstly you comment like a child or halfwit, bring a fully formed and balanced input, especially when nosing into other nations. Secondly he said the union is for “mutual cooperation” so there’s your answer. Also Ireland is locking people up for hurty words and letting others get away with violence it’s just as bad. You seem to have the wrong end of the stick and ran with it here? Leftwing globalism is the problem not England.
Also Irish, Scottish, English and probably welsh ancestry makes you very British, congratulations, maybe one day you can help rebuild the motherland.
I call myself English. Not for any negative or standoffish reasons, only that it doesn’t make much conceptual sense given that Wales, Scotland and Ireland have distinct cultures. And if I were from there, I too would want to highlight my identity by their name, as these gents do
@@EmperorsNewWardrobe The denial of the cultural expression for English people started with BLAIR and HIS NEW LABOUR FRONT BENCH. Despicable comments about " the English as a race" made by some on thst front bench, would be considered as hate speech now!.
People fast tracked into positions of high authority with scant knowledge of BRITISH and ENGLISH domestic history! Urbanites without care to the rural shires and the bustling market towns of ENGLAND 🏴 which , ff LABOUR now continues with the MISSION that BLAIR started will be concreted into oblivion as EU REGIONS and COMMUNITIES and all reference to St George and the rural agricultural customs which are the backbone of Great Britain denied and removed.
@@janicebirch7522 Nice persecution complex
@@janicebirch7522 what the actual fuck are you on about?
As a welshman I respect this. JRR Tolkien, writer of Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit said often that the term 'British' ignores the individual cultures of the British Isles.
@ thanks for the Tolkien reference! Always appreciate little gems like that
If your from Wales your Welsh if your born in England your English if your from Scotland your Scottish if your born in Ireland your Irish all there own people and history.
I'm Welsh and British. I'm proud to be both.
Welsh are the true Brits anyway
@@dwj8620 it doesn't matter. The Welsh, Scottish, Cornish and Englishmen have all mixed with each other for 1,500+ years. True Brits = these 4 ethnicities.
You are NOT Welsh.
@JosephLevis-f2e And how exactly do you come to this conclusion?
@@stephenperry5849 Welsh are never British. Two total different countries.
Nothing wrong with being proud of their specific identity, ancestry and cultural background! Bravo 💪
@Octopusgivesyouahundoit’s in your genes, so it’s about you. Loving your nation, ethnicity is about loving yourself in a bigger picture
@Octopusgivesyouahundo stop lying. The colour of your skin means something, that is the reality. Creatures with roots out of the upper global north made it a big deal and still enforce it, albeit covertly nowadays
@Octopusgivesyouahundo Loving yourself isn't about being egotistical. It's just about being happy. If you're happy with yourself and you care about yourself, it's probably because you love yourself. You take care of the things you love. It's a problem when you then project that self love onto others negatively.
Also very much disagree that you cannot be proud of your nationality. Especially the point about culture being meaningless. If culture was meaningless, why on earth would I bother to go to Norway? To Spain? To Poland? To Japan? To Egypt? To Mexico? Culture is why. Culture and history. Not to mention that culture is a very broad collection of things.. from food, to values, to language, laws, institutions, traditions, societal norms and so on. A world without culture and love and pride for it is a boring world. It's just important that we don't tear down others in raising ourselves up. That's the difference between being a patriot, and a nationalist.
@Octopusgivesyouahundo We've all done terrible things, I know I certainly have. I used to be a horrible person, absolutely awful. I will never forgive myself for a lot of it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to cling onto it and dislike myself for it. I'll be honest, I of all people shouldn't really be saying this because I'm not very happy and my life is a bit of a mess at the moment.. but the whole point is that when we make mistakes, we learn from them. We get better. Why feel negative about something that is no longer a part of you? If you used to be a bully, but no longer are, why would you treat yourself as if you are still a bully? It's about past and present. I used to be a terrible person, now I don't believe I am.
The mind is powerful, often it takes only believing something for it to become reality. Whether that being because you now recognise something you didn't or because you changed to become that way. We are what we make ourselves to be. Clinging onto negative perceptions of yourself benefits nobody, it's stubbornness for the sake of stubbornness.
Bravo?
Bro I’m from England but to see how much pride these Welsh people have in their identity and community gets my respect. ❤
Thanks, I hope you're proud too. I'm not just Welsh, I'm north Walian, we weren't properly colonized/industrialised like the south so we're all being retarded, poor and getting drunk in fields like some third world country and I wouldn't have it any other way, the English have been the ''Actually getting shit done'' Brits.
Sort of, they have a long history that goes back centuries and centuries. They're also the only country in the UK that doesn't have a part of their flag, meshed into the UK's Union Jack flag haha. Look up the parts of what makes a UK flag, it's England, Northern Ireland and Scotland's flag put together.
Nationalism is a dangerous thing, mate. Never leads to anything good
I don't really get being proud of your country. You can be proud of having _served_ your country, or representing your country at sports, sure, those are personal sacrifices or achievements. Personally, I like being English (I can take the heat), but I'm neither proud nor ashamed of it. It is what it is--I'm English, my DNA is specifically from South West of London. What is all this nationalistic ding dong really about?? Love your neighbour as yourself, that's the real objective.
English people have every reason to be just as proud.
As a welshman with a Welsh father and an English mother. I am proud to be Welsh & also British.
I think if youre born in Wales, youre Welsh , regardless of where your parents come.from.
@@satsumamoonwrong welsh is an ethnicity
@@satsumamoonyes, he is but he’s also British because wales is in britain. He’s just being logical.
Proud to be British? Proud of what exactly? Britain is one of the worst things that happened to this world
@@satsumamoonnot true anyway. People across the west recognise multiple identities based on their heritage, African American for example. They’re American, absolutely, but a lot of them want to recognise their African heritage
I think the fact of the matter is that people aren't necessarily "proud" to be British, but they're content with the Union. They're proud of their own cultures and history which is something they should absolutely be proud of.
Yeh i can safely day that 90 % of the brittish are content with it but not likeing it but as an englishman im proud of my country and history ( not all tho)
@makenziestancer1especially your country's behaviour in Ireland.
@AnnesleyPlaceDub70 which time ?
@AnnesleyPlaceDub70 I will say that during the famine we did actually send resources however the guy who was in charge of distributing them hated the Irish and wanted them to die
Suuuuure. And i suppose the troubles was just a few memebers of a happy union showing their appreciation then?
I am welsh and I'm proud of it two because I speak my own language and have my own heritage ❤🏴
but not a great grasp on the English language, sadly.
Your own? No. It was given to you by those who create culture and even ethnicity. You'll are of the same stock.
@@envsf03You missed capitalization on your first letter. Neither of us are speaking original English anyway. What does it matter?
I never studied welsh in my life and I understand everything you just said 🤯 although it’s too not two
I'm Catalonian, not spanish, for the same reasons. 😊
The Welch have beautiful singing voices; their choirs, with complex harmonies, sound like a foretaste of Heaven.
I see what you did there
I like Welsh humour most ))
Gods country see
Aw, thank you, I'm proud Welsh first but also proud British, but sadly sing like a toad with a 40 a day fag habit! 🤷🏻♀️
I find Irish to be more melodious
Im Welsh proud to be Welsh and Proud to be British our men have fought and died for our country and the British Flag
Probably the saddest comment I’ve ever seen
I'm pretty sure the Welsh fought for Welsh and lost hence you're English now
@@DADA_._ It’s weird, like on every post about Wales even if it’s on good light there’s like tens of people like you who comment just disgusting (and factually incorrect) things about men that went to war with your grandfathers to keep each other safe in trenches, how families loved each other and realised how amazing the other person was despite where they were born, you put all the country’s people and history to the side just to post a ‘gotcha’ comment. the Spanish conquered Peru and their main language is Spanish, does that mean Peruvians are Spanish then? Do yourself a favour and realise just because you like a narrative, doesn’t make it correct, have a good one
@@DADA_._ Welsh are Welsh and English are English. Both are British
I'm proud to be English, and proud to be British, 🏴 🇬🇧 and love touring around the UK and Ireland been to pretty much everywhere decent and crap but South Wales is 100% my favourite place to visit
It's great to hear that people proud of being their own nation!
@@hc3820St.georges flag* 😊 I agree though!
@hc3820 The English have been rather late in the game where national identity is concerned. Maybe they were so secure in their Englishness that they didn't feel the need to draw attention to it. Over the last 20 plus years, the St George's cross has lost its 'far right' connotations and is proudly flown and worn at sporting events. I, as a Welshman, welcome it. It has as much right to be flown as those of the other three nations! 🏴
@@hc3820a Union Jack is when it’s mounted on a maritime ship. Union flag on dry land.
@@titopuente6149 Yes and Scottish King James, King of Scotland, Wales, England and Ireland, ordered its design and named it after himself./
Cope. They detest the English
I'm Welsh AND very proud to be British..and proud to have served with English, Scottish, Northern Irish and of course my fellow Welshmen and Women! 🏴🏴🏴🇬🇬🇬🇧
Loser
British means English. It means invading and colonising a quarter of the planet, beginning with Wales. It's a shameful thing. The union jack is a symbol of oppression.
Traitor
Proud to be british? Why???
@thatisme3thatisme38 maybe they love the whole genocidal, entitled, white supremacy, entitlement thing
Can we start saying Westminster instead of England literally every English town outside London has been abused in the same way as the Welsh and Scottish.
tell that to the irish.
It is not just geography and has not been since before the enclosures act.
@zarni000 Aye tell that to the Irish who had to come here over 100 and 200 years ago for work who built or towns worked in mines and now there decendents are proud English/british 👏 🇬🇧
Good point
What nonsense
The people we now call Welsh are the original British People. They were here 10,000 years before the English arrived.
People from England are shy about calling themselves English. They prefer "British" mainly because they think they own the entire island.
A British person is someone from the British Isles. The term dates back over 1600 years. The Welsh are technically one of the original British peoples before the Anglo-Saxons invaded (who are now the English). Its strange how the people in the video are claiming to not be British when they should really be owning it.
Very true an island called Britain
@ScottiStudios
The welsh are decended from the celtic Britons, the English Anglo saxons.
Yeah and then you tried to destroy our language and culture for nearly 800 years. Get back to Germany you foreigner you don’t belong on our island!
Yes but British is not a Welsh thing like Britain was made by the Romans then later adapted to Saxons made up to link us together we where here before the great flood we are not British it's politics to merge us to do what they want like laws etc we are Welsh not British get over it is like saying just bend over
@@NickNick-tp5cr that were both from central European tribes. Very similar cultures. This isn't hard to find.
I’m British…born in England with English, Welsh and Irish ancestry.
@@SarahThompson-s3g this maybe isn’t for you then
Hello dear🥰do you need sugar daddy to take care and support you financially,you’re really gorgeous and adorable you deserve to be happy and treated like a queen 👸
@@AbdulKareemTawakalitu-o2zfilthy cretin
U supporting Britain at the world cup🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@ or Britain at the 4 Nations rugby
I am Iranian and proud and i am proud Iranian British too ❤️🫡🇬🇧🫡❤️
You'll never be British 😂
Greetings from Argentina to all the welsh brothers and sisters!
I am German and from Saxon pedigree..... so I have a great love for our english cousins.... 🏴❤️
Millions of English actually have more Celtic DNA.
@@dan32113 according to the max plank institut Hamburg there a counties in England with over 60% Saxon DNA😳..... you'll find celtic DNA mainly at the edges of Britain
As an Englishman I am proud of my Germanic roots
@@Danny-hp9fx 👍🇩🇪
@@albionmyl7735 🏴🤝🇩🇪
I'm proud to be British, but even prouder to be Welsh.
You can’t be both.
@@alynwillams4297The word Britain comes from the Celtic word Pretani. The Welsh, Scottish, Manx, Cornish and Cumbrians are the original Britons. He can be both because he is. Not like those Saxon/Norman twats.
@alynwillams4297 yes you can Wales is a part of Britain you can't be Welsh without being British
@@NoxiousKnight-h6o Being Welsh is entirely separate from being British. “British” is little more than a disguise for English dominance, dissolving the uniqueness of Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland under a single label. Wales has its own culture, language, and history, all distinct from England’s, yet “British” sweeps these differences aside, pushing us into a narrative that suits England. To be Welsh is to be part of a proud and ancient heritage that doesn’t need the British label an identity that thrives on its own, not as some afterthought in an English centred “United Kingdom.”
Disgusting
I'm Welsh. More Welsh than British but I support the UK and I understand that what effects one effects all
Makes no sense your pasport is britsh not welsh wales is a state of England we not real a country
@@chriswilliams8299Jesus Chris please go back to school bud
@Welshman21 i use to think the same then. I woke up
@pickleboii4209 does your passport say welsh citizen or British it sess British not welsh citizen you fly some where then you need your brish passport there is no wales passport we not a fully foarm country we are a poor country not intelligent to be independent think for ourselves we use to be over 100 years ago i use to think like you not to long ago then i grew up im from and born in wales my country is 🇬🇧
@chriswilliams8299 mate you're talking shit.
Why are they saying 'English' for British when it was Scottish King James who wanted a Union of the countries when he became King of Scotland, Wales, England and Ireland? He ordered a British flag to be made and even named it after himself. Plenty of English people don't want to be called British either but these folks insist of calling us that, yet don't like being called British themselves. If English people have to be called British then the Scottish definitely should be..
Oh the joys of being shadow banned
@@SallySturman nop
@ then how am i replying to you if you are shadow banned?
@@stuartwalker8755 It was 9 days ago so maybe it's been lifted?
@ I replied. Do you see it?
The Welsh are the original Britons
@@dragons123ism q: do you think the Strathclyde Britons or Picts were exterminated?
@@davidlittle7182 They partially were (and they've mixed with the Irish and Anglo-Saxons), and their languages are now extinct unlike Welsh.
@@davidlittle7182 They're britons too
@zobandzeff the Welsh haven’t mixed with Anglo-Saxons because their language remains? Really?
@@davidlittle7182 No, that's not why. But I'm saying that they haven't mixed much with the English. They have very little Anglo-Saxon DNA and look very distinct from the English.
Here in my country, Argentina, there are important settlements of Welsh people in Chubut. They came fleeing from the English power. Currently, their descendents are really proud of their legacy and they still identify like Welsh😍
Actually they didn’t come from oppression but to work as miners in the silver mines
Falklands.... Er hum
No. Completely wrong. Many English came too.
@@richardblack4150
The Falkland Islanders are mostly Scottish
@@katedrummond9938was that not oppression?
99,9% o Welsh support English clubs in Premier League. How does that make sens?
Welshmen are a handsome lot and man, can they sing!
♥️🇨🇦
They can't all sing.
@@MsPinkwolf Yeah they can, it's genetic.
@beniissleepy that's hilarious. I've lived in Wales most of my life and I know all Welsh men can't sing.
@@MsPinkwolf A little more beer and they'd be singing.
And play trombone..
I'm Welsh first, but I'm also British! United we stand, divided we fall!
@rhyfelwrDuw United against what though?
@@benfisher1376ireland 😂
@@benfisher1376spot on. It’s the type of nonsense that’s sold to working class lads to go and fight etc
@@benfisher1376thats how the saying goes mate.
@@benfisher1376plenty to be united over lately! Foreign invaders for one
Cheer~~~the Celtic language of Wales, spoken by about 500,000 people (mainly bilingual in English). Descended from the Brythonic language spoken in most of Roman Britain, it has been strongly revived after a long decline.😊
We didn't need another language, why did they dig up the virtually dead Welsh language? The Kids who go to Welsh language schools don't. speak Welsh outside of school and don't speak it when they leave school, English will always come first, never the waste of space Welsh language.
Be proud of your Nation…
When I come to visit, I want to see / hear about Wales!
Love from England
Born in Wales and proud of being British 🇬🇧
🤣🤣👿
hiya English lad
I'm a Welsh man at heart,but stand strong and proud with our very close british neighbours during hard times 😊
🏴🇬🇧❤️
Na let the imperialist pigs get on with it rather than dragging the Celtic nations into there shite all the time
Respect brother
Your 'British' neighbours tried to stamp out your language and culture. If you stand with them, you're not Welsh.
@@Shaniflewogthe entire island is British it's the english that tried it and to be fair then you have to hate so many countries it's just not worth getting mad over something that happened centuries ago history is to be learned from
The Scottish and Irish people stand by the Welsh 🤝
But not the English?
@apebass2215 Noooooo not the English 😂😂
How nice
I thought the Irish wanted the Lowlanders out of their country?
@@thebat7048😂😂😂 obviously
Love my celtic brothers and sisters.
🏴❤️🇮🇪
The irony of course is, that having the highest amount of descent from the Brythonic Celts of Britain, the Welsh are in fact the *most* British.
Brittonic. British is a modern term referring to all residents of the UK.
@digit-zero British (Brettisċ/Bryttisċ) was used by the Anglo-Saxons to refer to the Britons, so it is not a modern term.
But celts don’t even come from Britain either they come from mainland Europe from countries such as Germany Czech Republic and Britanny France.
@@michaelrb9837 British Celts do come from Britain though, being descendants of the earlier Neolithic and Bronze Age people of Britain, rather than waves of Celtic invaders from the mainland. Those of Brittany came to France from Cornwall, to escape the Anglo-Saxons. But being Celt isn't what I mean by the "Welsh are the most British", I mean that their genetics are mostly British rather than Anglo-Saxon, or Norse, or Frankish.
@@IkarosWaltz Mis informed when the Anglos were there to protect the celts. You could have shortened this because basic google search will tell you the Celts come from mainland Europe from countries like Switzerland, Czech Republic and Germany and Britanny France you’re mis informed. Also what have the celts done since?? All great inventions and great moments came from England like the Industrial Revolution. Without entailed nobody would know Britain even existed. This whole page and video is just an Anglophile page to discriminate on the English it’s sickening
I’m Welsh 🏴 and want an independent Wales 🏴
Who’s going to pay for your healthcare and benefits ? Wales can’t afford it
@ strange they said virtually the same thing about Ireland 100 years ago and Iceland 60 years ago 🤔
@@Carlos12330 Wales' fiscal deficit per capita of £4,300 is the second highest of the economic regions, after the Northern Ireland fiscal deficit, which is nearly £5,000 per capita.
That’s now, not 60 years ago. It’s a shame the Welsh education system is so poor
@ fiscal deficit is bull💩 it doesn’t take into account NNDR or corporation tax which goes directly to the exchequer then we’ll look at the profit the crown estates make in Wales and thats before we get down to the water and energy that just disappears over the border , what are you so frightened about? That Wales and Scotland would probably be better served being independent and that England becomes more irrelevant🤔
im english and so do i!!
I’m English, studying in Cardiff, have been for 3 years. Haven’t met a Welsh person like this yet. Most are like the last guy, chill asf
Lived in Cardiff all my life and can confirm most are like the first few lads
The last guy was English?
No real Welshman sounds like that now do they.
And Cardiff is the least Welsh place in wales (especially nowadays)
Gotta love the good old Islamic stores and mosques everywhere, how wholesome is that 😊
I never want to step foot in Cardiff until they sort it out lol
@@stevendoesvlogs2293 Sorry mate, we have freedom of religion here, obviously though the majority choice of faith is none in Wales, so actually by your logic do you also want to get rid of all christian churches?
They were all chill, the last guy telling the rest to “get over it” was not very chill tho
It's not that they're not chill. It's that they know their history. They also know that THEIR flag isn't on the union jack.
As a descendant of welsh immigrants, im proud to be welsh. My ancestors came from normandy during the norman invasion. And still have faily in brecknockshire.
I'm proud to be English, but love our brother's, I cheer on Wales in rugby & football, I love all British nations ❤❤❤
We don’t love you
Trev, You're a Brit - Not "bRiTiSh". The biggest con the Anglo Saxons ever did was to convince you that you weren't Brits and had to become a caricature of one [in their image, and in their language/tongue].
Cariad fawr o Gymru - Much love from Cymru
@@ComeRee So do I but I’m not into the concept of Britain where the largest of its constituent nations, due to population size, dictates to the rest of the smaller ones. The Sots, Welsh and N.Irish don’t have democracy as 55-60m people will always outvote the rest !!
@@100geemo78 Totally agree my friend. If this was an equal union - the UK government would be equitable by number of nations within the nation state, and not based on populous. If the UK acted like a mini-EU, we may actually achieve unity and equity amongst these shared isles - but unfortunately the English want it both ways. Either, to dominate under an inbred royal family and their empire, or, to culturally appropriate all of the good things from the other nations within the UK as their own [making "Britishness" a synonym for "Englishness"].
For example:
If you do good and come from Scotland / Cymru / N.Ireland - you're called British
["Andy Murray wins Wimbledon, a British best!"]
Though, If you do bad and come from Scotland / Cymru / N.Ireland - then you're Scottish / Welsh / N.Irish
["Andy Murray loses Wimbledon, a Sloppy Scottish failure!"]
*HOWEVER*
If you come from England and do good, you're called English [Hoorah! For King and country!"]
Though, if you do bad and come from England - you're called "British".
["British people caught rioting at a national football match... *reads in small print* 10 men from Kent [England] .."
@@AthelstansSuccessor Hey Ffyc-Face, England has 541MPs [gained 8], Cymru has 32MPs [lost 8], Scotland has 57MPs and N.I. has 11MPs. When the barnett formula has left Cymru underfunded disproportionately for decades - you're actually not far off - as we've been left in the middle ages. Robbed £4billion from HS2 [named an England and Wales project but only ever planned to be built in England - where Scotland and N.I. were compensated]. Our patron saint isn't even recognised with a bank holiday or represented on the Union Jack [our dragon would go no where near that butchers apron]. Just because you're a privileged ffyc-nutt-from-next-door, doesn't mean you get to spew your ignorant entitled rhetoric onto those who have to pay for your government as well as our own. When we get less out than what we put into this [so called] union - I bet you can't name a single positive of us staying as a union. Where - before you say we're not worth anything/more hastle to keep around: let us be independent. We're the only Britons in Britain that speak Brittonic... everyone else speaks Germanic or Gaelic [i.e. tongues that didn't originate here]. Keep calm and carry on crying ya salty brit~ish gammon. Stay your side of the border.
Freedom for Welsh
They are free what you on about ?
@@f-wingkingunclejohn6199 he is talking about independance m8
@@roflomaozedong boo hoo they live a free life in one of the worlds freest societies. Think about people who do not have that right. Basically this is all about hate really. Should think themselves lucky
@roflomaozedong they live in one of the freest societies in the world. Get a grip yer daft bastards they don't know how lucky they are. There are children in other countries that would give their right arm and leg to be where you ungrateful leek munchers are. Yer can't shag a flag but them poor sheep.
Freedom for the Donbass and Crimea from ruzzia
I am English and proud to be British. The never ending victim mentality of some Welsh and especially Scottish politicians to gain political power has caused that.
They also conveniently forget that the Acts of Union were brought in by the Welsh House of Tudor and that the Crowns of England and Scotland were united under a Scottish king. Typical of the modern era to play the victim olympics, especially now that Britain no longer holds the power it once did and the pervading international narrative is anti-British; during the 1800s there were plenty of Welsh and Scottish folks who were more than happy to be partaking in the building of the Empire and reaping its profits, no little wonder separatist-nationalism increased during the waning years and end of the Empire. And that is by no means to decry them for retaining or being proud of their culture, by all means I fully support it, but the victimhood they seek is duplicitous and silly let alone counterproductive.
"I'm English, which means I think everybody else in the UK is inferior to me" you might as well have said that seeing as that's what you really think
@ I think you just proved my point about the victim mentality, thank you
@@mikemahoney874 stop the gaslighting
@@swanaldronson7615 kings are either dictators or figure heads. Which one of those two options represent the people in a democratic sense?
If this was a truly random set of interviews without editing out certain responses, this straw poll tells us more about the ignorance of knowing what Britain is and therefore what being "British" means.
Yep I’m english totally agree you should be proud of being Welsh
We are thanks. You have your history to be aware of and we have ours.
@@barmouthbridge8772 Completely agree, but as a whole we are “British”.
I think a lot of Welsh people have a very good take on this. No Welsh person is actively angry or upset about being a part of the union. But surely English people that know the history can't expect Welsh people to be happy with it.
The castles here were built to slaughter and control us. We suffered persecution and Xenophobia on a disgusting level. We were banned from speaking Welsh and there are many historical accounts from English people stereotyping Welsh people as stupid and primitive.
Even today the whole "sheep shagger" insult is a form of Xenophobia akin to "Asians eat dogs" or "Africans eat chicken and Watermelon ".
I said it once I'll say it again. did you listen in Geography if not I'll explain it for you. The UK is made up of wales Scotland England and northern Ireland and is situated on the island of Britain. The British isles has three countries on it which are Scotland Wales and England. Like it or not that's just basic geography. Which is why the people in the vid who say they aren't British are being stupid like it or not it's true.
Oh for gods sake get over it it's gone you'll be telling us next you were slaves and English are proud too so go f urselves
@@DOG-MEAT
That's your opinion
Come here too ireland the british isles does not exist our government do not recognise that term it does not exist here
Foreigners don't name these islands.
@DOG-MEAT that's like saying all of Europe is one single country because they're all joined up 😂😂
@@shay3154 omg I don't think I have seen some so dens in my life 🤦
Im proud to be English. But also proud to be British. I love the scots, the welsh and the irish and glad we stand together side by side.
Why should us English like them when they hate us solely based on our nationality
I’m proud to be English to mate but we all don’t stand side by side lad
The only thing the Welsh, Scottish and Irish have got in common is a mutual hatred of the English
@@youllneverwalkalone1565people like you might not but we should are nations are stronger together
@@Jits25 people like me ???
🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴👍I am British and Welsh.
cant be both. one is a conquering empire. the other is a conquered nation under that empire
@@zarni000 DONT make out that the Welsh didn’t partake or profit off that empire - especially the trans Atlantic slave trade
Hello dear🥰do you need sugar daddy to take care and support you financially,you’re really gorgeous and adorable you deserve to be happy and treated like a queen 👸
@Marz4774CK5 kept everything lol. Wales and scotland pay taxes for the upkeep of the English royals. The crown owns tons of land and properties all over Scotland and Wales and pays 0 taxes on it. The welsh and Scottish language were essentially outlawed and forgotten.
U cannot be serious
@Marz4774CK5 what language. Welsh was almost dead a few decades ago. It's only now they've started reviving it. And still it's only about 15% of population of wales know any welsh.
If push comes to shove…. “That was years ago…. Get over it” Britain’s answer to all their atrocities 😂
Like Turkey 🦃
Britain ended the slave trade & pressured other nations to do the same
Welsh are Welsh. Irish are Irish and Scottish are Scottish
Aka British 😂
Which is British, which is also European, which is also Terran (from earth), which also means they’re a Milky Wayian (lol maybe there will be a correct term for that one day)
@@fredlewis6527
Europeans yes, but not British. English language, which is Germanic, culture so on are different from the one of Welsh, Scottish and Irish
@@armankamal332 few scots speak their native tounge
@@armankamal332but you speak English. There might be slight nuances in culture but no more so than a scouser is culturally different to someone from Kent and that's even more so for North Wales. Is Wrexham and Rhyl really Welsh culturally? Really? They're not are they? No one in Britain had their original culture. English people aren't Saxon in culture. What used to be Danelaw aren't Norse. The British isles (that includes Ireland) have far more in common culturally than not. There's the odd little nuance. The Welsh rattle animals, the Scottish burn spoons, the English all hate each other mainly because of football and this the fact that someone had the absolute audacity to have a different accent to them, the Irish hate each other but over politics and potatos but aside from that everyone's the same. A prod from England had more in common with a Catholic from Ireland than either do with an American for example. Even those Americans that genuinely believe they're Irish
With respect to our Welsh cousins ( and English and NI) In the last census almost 70% of Scots identified as Scottish not British. It's nothing to do with loving or hating English people. It's because Scots are learning not to be second best in their own country any more and with each new generation the figure has increased for decades now.
Many English people conflate being British with being English, it's like ( as some people have illustrated here) forcing English culture onto people who are not English. People who grew up in England or elsewhere won't understand these Welsh guys ( or Scots or Irish) Because they weren't subjected to the indoctrination of English Britishness. Having your own language and culture suppressed ( English only in schools, frowned on elsewhere but we spoke Scots at home) in our own country.
History taught in school was very detailed English history. Scots history was a sheet of A4 with the births and deaths of Scots Kings and Queens. No detail- over a thousand years of history on a sheet of A4.
There's a lot of other ways the British state tried to eradicate Welsh, Scots and Irish identity and culture. It worked on many as it worked on the guy who said " that was years ago, get over it" It was years ago, it is also right now every day.
I saw a kid at my primary school thrown out of class because he said "aye" Yes in his own language. Scotland is on the British Iles geographically so personally am not offended being called British but I ( like the vast majority of Scots) identity as Scottish. That's a choice no one else can make for me.
I don't hate English people. Amazing country and history. I'm actually very fond of my English family and friends of whom there are many.
Imagine as an English person having French culture forced onto you in your own country? Might smart a bit?
Hope this goes some way to explain some of the attitudes in the video. It's not about hate of the English, it's about respect for ourselves."
I'm Welsh and very proud to be British ❤
Well Said
I’m not. Can’t stand it I wish Wales left the UK like Ireland did
As am I. It's just a shame that someone let the English in.
@@davidmorgan6896the Welsh invaded Britain, who did you think built stonehenge?
😂😂😂😂
I’m born welsh live in Swansea but am a proud British man
Same hear 👍
Nice 🏴🇬🇧
British is just English
@ independence for wales I presume
@@bullerd82 Being “British” has always meant Welsh identity being overshadowed, our resources drained, and our culture sidelined to serve English interests. Sure, we’ve been dragged into English wars and labeled as “brothers,” but it’s always Wales giving more than it gets. English rule has taken our wealth, controlled our land, and acted like we’re just another piece of “Britain” to use as it pleases. Pride in Welsh history means standing up for ourselves not blending into some British identity that’s only ever benefitted England.
It's funny because I think Britishness is old than England. The Welsh speakers felt British before the Anglo-Saxons even came to this island. Where I live in Southern Scotland has been referred to, in conjuction with Northern England as Yr Hen Ogledd, the Old North, in historic times.
British doesn't have the connotation of being English to me. Those concepts are quite separate. Britishness suggests partnership between nations to acknowledge something bigger than our local identities. To concentrate on what we have in common. Like the fact this interview, as the Scottish equivalent was also, carried out in a British variant of English.
For me, engaging with people from around Britain and many other places emphasises what humans have in common. The differences between people on this island don't seem so great seen in that context.
The ancient name was pronounced Pryttain and the most ancient DNA within the British genome is the Cymru/Welsh DNA.
@@GordonCaledonia "the British genome" 🤣🤣🤣
@@monkeykingeater Yeah! I meant to say *gene pool*. Brain-fart.
I am proud to be both Welsh and British. Proud of our long Welsh history, culture and language, but also proud that most of us are not holding a grudge going back centuries, as there are no living people today who had anything whatsoever to do with what happened centuries ago, so why would I blame them?
I'm proud to be English and British. I love and respect our Welsh, Scottish, and Irish Kin as well. 🇬🇧 🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇬🇧
Don't forget Cornish. We are Celts too. 👍
Feeling isn’t mutual. 🏴 🏴 🇮🇪 🇮🇲 fe godwn ni eto!
@@AnnieFrancis-i7pWelsh, Scottish, Manx, Cornish and Cumbrians are the true ethnical Britons.
The Irish aren't your "kin".
Yes they are
Being welsh and supporting England is like being a chicken and supporting colonel sanders
But supporting Britain doesn't mean you support England, we all make up the British Isles
No its not
Being called British is the most shamefully thing happen to man
Being called British is the most shameful thing happen to a man
Acting like Welsh people weren't massively involved
I reserve pride for something i have done or created.
I cannot be proud of something that happens by someone elses efforts.
Im proud of my daughter, my work ethic and any other of my sporting achievements.
Im English, and happy to be so.
Wise man❤
Exactly!
Born and bred in Cardiff and I’m proud to be British. Welsh is my local identity and British is my national identity.
I am Welsh, born and bred. I'm proud to be British.
The welsh are part of the original Britons, as well as people who lived in Dumnonia, etc. It's a bit funny seeing them say they're proud to be non British, despite technically being directly associated with British, a.k.a Britons, as by their heritage. In a way, they are more British than the English.
Most English people have ancient Briton ancestry, just less of it than the Welsh
Almost all modern English also have brytbonic dna. This idea that the saxons genocide the celts and forced them into Wales and Scotland is just plain wrong.
Just because some is telling you that dating a sheep is not quite fine, it is not a reason to dislike.
Fun fact: the British government forcibly moved an entire welsh village, just so they could flood it and turn it into a reservoir. This was in the 60s.
EDIT- So there's a few people here simping for Westminster, justifying this. It was also illegal to speak Welsh in Wales up until 1967. Let's see what kind of mental gymnastics it takes to justify that.
They do that shit all over the place though not just wales
@@Racing_Fox well I guess that makes it okay then.
@ every government does it across the world
@Racing_Fox the welsh language was banned until 1967. I guess since some third world dictatorship also bans languages somewhere, then that's okay too. 👍
Fun fact the British government have done acts like that 10000 times in England…. What’s your point ?
I never understand why Welsh and Scots dont like being british? Its so dumb man. Be proud of your country.
I am Welsh before all else .
British has never entered my vocabulary .
I have no problem with it but would never use it to describe my self or my immediate family
Right. And you are speaking and writing English 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@HuynhOutside and your point is ?
Did I criticise anyone with what I said ?
No I replied to a question written in English .. in English
@@3beerplz 😱🤢🤮
You live in Great Britain…..
@@HuynhOutside Probably because the English tried their best to kill off the Welsh language, meaning generations never got the opportunity to learn it. Let’s be honest, you all hate that it’s gaining popularity again don’t you!
To be fair, I'm English and I feel nothing for The Union. It's the 21st Century. Time to go our separate ways. Respect our neighbours. Co-operate on matters of mutual interest, but respect every nation's right to self-determination, even England.
Sound just like Balkan people do. That is how people in former Yugoslavia countries used to talk. Every valley should be it's own little weak country. Every tribe should have it's own ethno nationalism. Britain is a great country and small minded people like you would see it nothing more than a collection of tribes.
Well said
Ian Worley, you have contries of distinct languages and cultures, yes, but they occupy an island of no great size. In the eyes of the rest of the world, Britain is better off as a conglomerate. Get over yourselves and get along better.
@@mt.shasta6097brutalized into your union, the Irish say on your bike, your done
Yeah it would be good for England to keep all that money and give our own free prescriptions, free university etc, instead of paying for the Welsh and Scots to do it instead!
I am half English and half Welsh. I have a Welsh surname. I love both countries deeply. The English longbow came from the Welsh longbow. But the English used it to greater effect.
They're Welsh. By area and population, probably the greatest nation in the history of all humanity.
But they are British! It's a fact😋😍
You say that while every English comment is calling ye sheep snagging savages with no history
I'm irish and ye welsh are lost for good ye accept abuse like dogs in a halting site
Complete veggies.
Fun fact: the word "British" (or "Britanni" in Latin) is the ancient world name for the original CELTIC population of this archipelago which was called after them "the British Isles"! That explains also the name of the French peninsula region of Britanny, because it was there were many 5th century Celtic refugees from Cornwall and Wales settled down after having fled from the Germanic (Anglo-Saxon) invaders.
You can't reason with these nationalists. I say this as a proud Briton with an English father, Welsh mother. Because of the hype about "Scottish independence.", the whole world has latched onto this solely to aim at England.
Most Englishmen don't even think about Scotland and Wales, so they don't care, but because of today's demographic problem, the native Britons of the UK (English, Scottish, Welsh, Cornis) NEED to stand together as fellow British people, and then decide if they still want be part of the UK.
Also, more and more Englishmen are embracing their English identity.
My only DNA connection with the British is the Celtic ancestry.
@@FedericoDLP you have no connection to us, you are Spaniard/Italian. The British Isles is all mixed with Germanic, Celtic, and Norse ancestry, no such thing as having one ancestry.
@@ShireTommy_1916_Somme-Mametz My DNA test says I have mostly Celtic DNA from Spain, France and Northern Italy, then a bit less from the Basque country, then a bit from Ireland, Scotland and Germanic Europe. Ask before you assume.
And I do not want any connection with the stupid English, donkey.
@@ShireTommy_1916_Somme-Mametz You do not know. You are a moron.
I love when every time I go on holiday in wales, nearly every house and business has a Welsh flag. It’s a pride like no other and I admire that completely.
Because in England we’re shamed as “racist” for having a flag, thanks to social media narratives
I’m a quarter Welsh btw
I remember when "Britain" banned the Welsh from speaking Welsh.
That very subject came up on the Antiques Roadshow last Sunday, they were in Wales and one of the experts was Welsh. Someone had a wooden board with WN carved into it and apparently it was used in schools, if a child spoke Welsh they had to wear this big piece of wood around their neck, it was called a Welsh Not, as not to speak Welsh. Barbaric.
@@mariac2441Listen I have Welsh speaking family members that never taught their children any Welsh
@@mariac2441 Our Taid was punished everyday for speaking Welsh. If another child had the board he would deliberately speak in Welsh to take the burden away from the other child.
@jemmajames6719 I'm irish from a family that didn't speak Irish, i went right through school with Irish language lessons and i still dont know more than a few words and that never bothered me, but the point was that they should have been allowed to speak Welsh if they wanted to, and not be humiliated like that.
@@mariac2441 Henry VIII started it all with the Act of Union in 1536 (?).
I’m with the last guy Britain is still a great country and I’m from the valleys, lived here all my life age 71.
I'm proud to be Welsh and British. I'm Welsh first though.
British just means English. You’re either Welsh or not
@@alynwillams4297No British is Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland. It’s not just England.
@@alynwillams4297 It goes back a few thousand years, laddy. Before the English. The Romans used to refer to the Isles as "Great Briton".
My Welsh friend put his tongue firmly in his cheek when he said he was " a citizen of the realm"😅😅
Love the Welsh . Im Scottish. Always Scottish never British ❤
You're all of the same WHITE stock --- British, Welsh, German, French., just with different GIVEN cultures; products of ethnogenesis...
Yeah but you speak fucking english😂🤡🤡
Most English are equally proud to be English and British as are very many or most welsh and ulster people. Its kind of weird thinking how Scots can’t see both at once.
Also having lived in Scotland, it seems more of a sub culture overall, I won’t judge but you hate each other as much as “us” I don’t see the comraderie and cultural immutability nor do I see things working out with only a tiny 5 million outwardly influenced scots.
Is Scottish national mostly just bonkers leftwing politics or what? I genuinely can’t tell anymore?
@davidoftheglen3447 always had a great laugh with Scots when they've visited for the rugby. I always say I'm Welsh and celtic never British. Cymru am byth!
@@ieuanwilding5993 🏴🤝🏴
I Have English, welsh and northern irish ancestors and i'm sure more nations are mixed in at some point, i'm proud to be British.
Seems like you asked people attending a Wales international football match? Where pride for Wales as a nation is the most important thing and might be seen as contrasting with British pride in that particular context? Why would you ask that question in that very particular setting unless you were looking for a very particular outcome?
Because politics joes single mission is to divide this country and loves nothing more than to stoke up separatist sentiment
Also, most Welsh do not yet seek independence. A vast majority don't. Asking nationalists what they identify with will give a predictable predetermined answer. They think that independence will give them many things they don't already have and things they think they're missing, they already have.
They don't even know what independence would give them, yet they want it, and they expect that independence will have no problems they won't complain about later. Then they can't fault the UK for that. That's their problem at that point.
Leaving the UK would make them weaker, not stronger. Because if they leave the UK, then Wales' various regions can make independence calls as well(Dyfed, Powys, Gwynedd, Gwent, West Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan, South Glamorgan, Clwyd and Anglessey), further fracturing Wales and the British Isles into weaker, not stronger, petty states. And then they would still be Welsh, all of them.
And in the future, what stops those regions from fracturing into independent sovereign states also? Eventually a unified Welsh would in such a scenario where the regions would want independence from a unified Wales, just result in another Brexit move Wales-style, and then some folks in the regions that don't get independence would complain about that, just like these guys seeing unification and one-ness with the UK as a negative thing, and they would still be a minority group among the greater regional population, meaning that they would not represent the common voice or opinion.
The point of the United Kingdom is to be UNIFIED, standing as one for strength, not to take anything away. You are not weaker for standing together. That's why we have NATO, Britain being one of the founders of NATO. Ernest Bevin, an English British trade union leader and politician who was a member of the British Labour Party and became one of its most prominent leaders, was the main drive behind NATO, so you could say that NATO was originally a British idea.
Like, these people already have all the rights they need to sustain a happy life. The rest is just pride. Dumb pride. Independence in the form of a sovereign state won't do anything. They won't get much else that they don't already have.
No one forces them to speak English, yet they speak English as a first language, but wants to be distinct from Britain(I know Wales have started to revive Welsh and making it more common though). Strange, if they think Britishness has a negative connotation. They should start speaking Cymric, Welsh, as a first language if they are truly proud of being Welsh.
These guys are a small minority in Wales. They do not represent the larger voice of the Welsh people as a whole. Ask a good portion of the vast majority of the people in Wales, and they will give a very different answer to what these guys said. They will have no problem with being associated with Great Britain or being British, while also still being Welsh.
You CAN be two things at once. It doesn't have to be one or the other. These men act as if they lose something from recognizing being British, as if they cannot be Welsh and British at the same time. They don't lose their identity by admitting that they are British, being part of the UK. They're still Welsh even if they'd admit to being British also, just like most Scots still admit to being British, while also being Scottish at the same time, and most Irish also see themselves as British, while also recognizing that they are Irish, and all of them still have a unique culture from the rest of the UK.
They still have the same rights. They can learn any language they like, they can eat whatever they like, they can buy whatever they like, they have sallaries, good sallaries for a lot of Welsh people in Wales, they have jobs, they can go wherever they like in the world, they can stay indoors for as long as they like, they can stay outside for as long as they like, they can say whatever they like, they can watch whatever they like, etc. They have every single right that the English, Scots and the Irish do. There is no difference in how they are treated, no injustice brought down upon them, no special treatment for English as opposed to Welsh, Scots or Irish people.
Yet they want more. They aren't treated unfairly, yet they seem to think so. They say they are proud to be Welsh, yet I bet these guys don't speak a lot of or even an ounce of their nation's language, namely Cymric, or Cymraeg, which is a part of their national heritage. Ludicrous.
Shunning, resenting or outright rejecting the UK only isolates them socially from the UK and the world as a whole if they see the UK as an enemy, or something bad in general, as if though they are still living in the Middle Ages, living under the oppression of King Edward I(who did in fact oppress the Welsh, and the Scots, seeking to supress an uprising rebellion against the English Crown), and before the late 1900's. It's stupid. These guys are very conservative in a negative way. They have a backwards view on what Britain or being British is.
They aren't even oppressed or treated unfairly, or the British government would have these men arrested for simply speaking their mind on the matter if they were truly oppressed or treated negatively. If anything, they're being unfair to Britain for giving them what they want, except for independene(which they don't need to lead full and happy, healthy lives). They take their freedom for granted and they use that freedom to condemn Britain, or the British government of today, for something they're not even guilty of.
They should be grateful they have the rights that they have, living in one of the most foremost and one of the most wealthy and prosperous nations in the world and being able to enjoy the benefits that come with that, and that they don't live in a third world country like Afghanistan. An independent Wales would be nowhere near as well off as being part of the UK.
You have a point
An absolutely outstanding answer.
No one forces them to speak English yet the English are the reason why most of us don't speak Welsh, they would actively punish those speaking Welsh by giving them the welsh knot and tried to erase our culture, the English even drowned one of our villages to supply drinking water Cofiwch dryweryn.@@Khornedevotee
I can guarantee you that most Welsh people identify with being Welsh more so than british speaking as a Welsh person myself.
You don't understand the plight of our people so don't pretend to
I'm Welsh...🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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I don't care to call myself British, but... British doesn't mean "associated with England", it means you're from the British isles. Welsh is a subset of that
It's like saying you're proud to be a human but you don't like being a mammal
You know there are other classes of animals who think you should be ashamed of being a mammal
Bryt is actually the ancient Welsh ethnonym that existed before the Cymry became widespread. So this is Welsh, Cornish and Britons, who are actually British
There is no British isles, it’s Great Britain and Ireland.
I was thinking the same bro. Some of this comments really had me somewhat confuse. They're still British bc they were born in one of these islands, and this is the island of great britain. So they can be both British and Welsh/scottish. However, I do agree that they are also their own and if they prefer to be called only Welsh/Scottish i gonna respect that and call them that way tho.
@@TOFB Blimey, there are an awful lot of misguided references to them then. I just looked on Wikipedia for starters and there were pages and pages right there.
I'm welsh ! Never ever called myself british! From North Wales 🏴
🎶🎶 I'M WELSH ... AND THEY HAVE GREAT SINGING VOICES! 🎉❤🎉
I am scottish and i am BRITISH 🏴🇬🇧
BULLY FOR YOU. I'M FROM IRELAND 🇮🇪.
@annbreen1910 nice
one of the 8%...LOL
"Britishness is a synonym which extends Anglo culture over the Irish, Welsh and Scottish" - Gwynfor Evans
Brit in Hebrew means covenant. Before Jesus Christ many people were pagans worshipping the fallen angels instead of God creator
As an American, it's all the same to me. British people are British people and they have weird taste in food like tuna on spuds with no seasoning
@@annavilensky3714 NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT MOISHES. NO ONE CARES ABOUT THEM HERE.
@@annavilensky3714 some people at court quite aware of word associations EG "cabal"/ah famous from then
They should be saying proud to be Cymry, the word welsh was given to the cymry by the Anglo-Saxons and means foreigner..ps wales happens to be in Britain.
I’m proud to be a human and proud to be from Earth.. I love my Irish roots but England has been my home for many a year and I love it and its people..
The leave voters and gammon rioters and Reform voters? Do,you really?
Proud to be british and welsh
I dare you to go to Scotland and ask them if they're proud to be British.👊
There's a fine line between courage and stupidity
Naw we're no apart from the Glesga Ranjurs crowd known as Scotlands shame. Saved you a trip 😂
Well, i imagine it's pretty 50/50, given the results of the referendum
@SirPeregrinTook latest poll was 59% for independence and getting rid of the monarchy
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That awkward moment the Welsh realise British doesn’t mean English 😂
Im welsh but I am proud to be British
Im Welsh these people don't understand where the word British came from, they seem to think British means English.
Especially south wales we want nothing to do with the lot of them, they destroyed our lives and towns, stopping the only form of income with coal mining and then letting the towns fall into irreversible poverty without giving a single helping hand. The only people it benefited was the English, whilst wales has been left to rot where has the help been from Britain? The billions sent to country’s around the world yet we got nothing.
Ukraine is Russian. It always was yet people defend the Ukrainians for wanting to be Ukraine and not run by Russia. Yet when Scottish and Welsh say they want nothing to do with England and Britain they are forced to bow down to the powers above. Makes sense don’t it 😂😂
Being British still implies being in a union with the English, they understand what it means
England was the dominant force and power in the union. Now it's been undermined by people with small hats and big noses.
In the modern sense of the term when people hear "British" they think everything associated with England. Not saying I personally do, but most people outside of the Celtic Isles seem to.
Every home nation was given the opportunity to express their nationhood except England.
Government intentionally eroded Englishness and replaced it with this wishy-washy notion of 'Britishness before Englishness'.
During the imperial era, the idea of 'Britishness' was only for export, back home it was English Welsh Scottish Irish or Ulster Scot.
As I white 46 year old bold English man, that loves football… I salute you the Welsh, Scottish and Irish. You all punch way above your heads and succeed. Unfortunately If I say “I’m proud to be English” I’m seen as racist.
It is very sad to me that being white English is seen as racist. Unreal. I'm very thankful the US was created by British people and not Spanish.
@@MartyP1978 But who is it calling English Brits as racist? Most recently it has been SOME people in Scotland, Wales and Ireland? This encouraged by the EU CENTRIC WESTMINSTER LONDON PARLIAMENT and its MEDIA.
No apology for capitals as the anti- English / British narrative has come from
Rht Hons from all over these islands, sitting in the BRITISH TAXPAYER funded
Palaces of self - entitled governance in LONDON!
No one sees you as racist in the real world Martin, don't worry. Online vs the real world are two very different things.
Stop being a victim. Nobody is calling u racist for saying ur proud to be British. It might be the fact that alot of time the people that say the same thing happen to be in the racist groups. In my humble opinion (albeit unsolicited) I think u should try an separate ur pride from the racist groups pride, maybe show the world that Britishness is more than colonialism an oppression. Show everyone that ur one of the good ones! Then we could all be proud of u an Britain! 👍🏾
@ for a start I’m saying “English” not British… there is a massive difference. Nobody alive in Britain today did any colonisation. You obviously think we still owe the world an apology.
I'm proud to be British & Welsh. Why can't I be both? Wales is my country, Britain is my nation
Am Somalian and proud to be in wales and live with the most kindness and humble Walsh community they so lovely people
Can you go back to your shithole