@@adriengrange8216 Tbh, Chilton sometimes matched him in qualifying and even out-raced him fair and square 3-4 times. And Chilton isn't Verstappen or even a Hulkenberg.
Grosjean is definitely one of the most criminally underrated drivers in the history of F1. How people label him as one of the worst drivers ever is beyond me...
Because they just saw from 2017 onwards. Even his excellent results with points in Haas in their first season in 2016 was great. He’s always had raw speed
@@TheFlatPancakeTheory Dude, Gutierrez out-raced him (despite not scoring any point) and the h2h in qualifying was only 12-9 in favor of Grosjean! And we're talking about the same Gutierrez who got destroyed by Hulkenberg and beaten by a overweighted Sutil!
It's because of that lack of consistency unfortunately. He could reach such highs and such lows. 2018 showed how much the mental side got to him. But definitely far from the worst driver.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 so let me get this right? Gutierrez who scored no points. Lost the qualy battle. And was dropped by Haas in favor for Kmag, outraced grosjean? That’s makes zero sense. Grosjean was by far better.
Man, 2012-13 Lotus with Kimi and Romain were such an exciting team, so many races where they were very close to snatch victory in the final part of the race. In my opinion they deserved a lot more victories than the two Kimi won.
It's a tough ask to win races against Mclaren, Alonso and Vettel especially when that era was dominated by Vettel. No denying they deserved more and it could have been so much better if only they didn't put a $50000 per points in Kimi's contract nearly bankrupting the whole team because of his success.
I still remember back in 2013 after Mark Webber announced his retirement, there were rumors about RBR considering Roman Grosjean nearby Vettel from 2014 on
@Lan They offered Kimi $50k for every point he brought in 12-13 seasons. What's the point in that..? The guy is a world champion. So at the end of 2013, after two wins and countles podiums and point finishesh they owed him $19.5mil in bonuses only.. 👍 .. Kimi actually skipped last two races because of these monetary issues. The official explanation was a back surgery but who knows.. .. So don't blame him for bringing success to the team.
@@petel7418 the guy who owned Lotus Renault F1 was a shit owner and owned Lille OSC Football team, Royal Excelsior Mouscron Football team, both handled like shit and now owns Girondins de Bordeaux Football team, which he also handles like shit
it could be 11 winners that season.. if Grosjean not dnf in Valencia, Perez not runs wide in Malaysia & Hulkenberg not crash in Brazil.. but 2012 was the great season in 21st century
@@rakkinen He won the short-lived GP2 Asia series in 2008/9 after coming 4th in the 2008 GP2 championship. He came back to GP2 in 2011 and won the championship in dominating fashion. I think with around 4 races to go whilst his teammate "Pal Verhaug" never scored a single point all season. Shows just how good Romain was.
2012 was such a bloody brilliant year for F1. So many drivers challenging for wins at various points of the season. Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Button, Webber, Raikkonen, Rosberg, Massa, Grosjean, Maldonado, Perez, Hulkenburg even Michael Schumacher!! So so great
When I see this, I literraly remember why he is good in indycar and why he was bad at Haas. Those cars can be on the limit and beyond without having an extreme reaction from the car. Here, he can slide with it, play with it. With Haas : one inch too much, instant spin. That's sad to have so much difference between cars.
Tbf, it does take skill to push an unstable car. While some have managed to do it, you can't expect that from even most of the grid. It is the constructor's job to give the car a room for the driver to push. Be it downforce for turning or resilient engines for overtaking charges.
Yeah he did have some good results, mainly at Lotus,and pulled off some good moves,unfortunately he made a lot of mistakes ad well. Some quite serious, and that sticks, stays with you.
Man, 2012 was such competitive season. We had RB and McLaren who were the fastest but has reliability issue. Lotus with Kimi and maverick Romain. Williams who had an underrated pace. And Ferrari... who had Fernando Alonso.
Kimi brought the victories, and most of the podiums and points to the team. He was the one who developed the car. After Kimi left the team and went back to Ferrari for 2014 season, Grosjeans best finishesh was 8th in Spain and Monaco. In two races he made it to the top 10(in 2014). 2015 he took his one and last 3rd place finish for Lotus. .. This is like making a video how awesome Bottas was, taking victories and top10 all time in points, while it was Hamilton who brought the titles.
Two things made me a Grosjean supporter: - a race in Valencia in wich he was catching up to Vettel, but car broke for alternator(?) issues; - a defense against Hamilton at the end of a DRS straight, he pulled to the inside on the last moment forcing Ham to take the outside and decelerate to not do the corner on the gravel. Got mad that day at Spa because it was incredibly stupid from his part and ended up not breaking Vettel's cycle, but never doubted of what he was capable of.
Not only was this a great compilation of Romain Grosjean, I loved Martin and Crofty's giddiness throughout. They were excited whenever the Lotus and Grosjean were doing well.
That what everyone was saying, him and him would have won the title in 2012 or 2013 Lotus.. Alan Permane (laughed and)told Alonso had said to him he would have won the title in 2013 Lotus eventhough they ran out of money(with Kimis bonuses etc).. .. So you pick Kubica when there were six current world champions on the grid that season(plus Nico Rosberg, a future champion, and the likes of Daniel Ricciardo, Mark Webber, Sergio Perez etc).. Not saying Kubica was bad, he was super talent(kind of wasted talent), but there so much talent on the grid that season(like seven different race winners)..
It was fun to see Grosjean fight for the race win in the Long Beach Grand Prix a couple of week's ago. Asked if he could have pushed even harder after finishing 2nd, he said yes, but since he is also fighting for the IndyCar championship, he had to be a little careful.
Hardly a beast. Got demolished by Kimi who was arguably past his prime at that stage. He had crashes back then too that ruined other driver’s races and was dangerous at some points. Alonso probably would’ve won the championship in 2012 and 2013 in the Lotus so I’m not getting too hyped on these ‘highlights’
Sadly he was in an era from 2014 onwards that is the worst era for competitive F1. He never stood a chance of a top drive because there was only one team capable.
Lotus had potential in 2014 but their financial issue is Lotus own fault for putting a $50000 per point on Kimi's contract nearly bankrupting the whole team because of his success.
I mean, I kinda always knew he was kinda fast, but with the fact that i am pretty new to the sport i never thought anything of it. But now i have the confirmation of that.
He did a lot of mistakes, people laughed at him. But that was because he was one of the only drivers to give more than his 100% Mistakes and aggressiveness is apparent only when you want to provide more than what your car is capable of. I really wished he had a better F1 carrer to his name but that’s part of the sport, being lucky never served to him. I Hope he gets Indy World champion this year 💪🏽
Couldn't have said it better! He isn't perfect, makes mistakes and isn't the most consistent. But when he is good, he is REALLY GOOD, so much so that it makes me completely forget and ignore all the bad, and he's showing that even now in IndyCar, too! Really manifesting a win for him this season!
Over-revs and gets a bad start Uses all ERS Divebombs on the outside Locks-up Abosutely no regard for the tires Nearly goes wide and spins P11 - P4 Holds back entire grid from leaders Crashes trying to re-overtake car behind
He was by no means a slow driver, he just has a shit team with a shit car and inconsistent and sometimes dangerous tbh, hey this guy isn't perfect. He has his flaws but is still a fast driver
On his best days he was capable of winning races, it's just a shame he never had that little pinch of luck needed. Hope he has a good run to win the IndyCar title this year.
that lotus was something else, kimi just about bankrupted the team with that car and his contact clause, grosjean tho during his lotus stint was underrated as hell
He was a beast for, like, 5 races in 2013, after Kimi's relationship with the team deteriotated. Before and after that he was exactly how he was with Haas. Fast but a complete airhead.
*Grosjean's form since the summer break:* 🇧🇪 P8 🇮🇹 P8 🇸🇬 DNF (hydraulics) 🇰🇷 P3 🇯🇵 P3 🇮🇳 P3 🇦🇪 P4 🇺🇸 P2 🇧🇷 DNF (engine) Total: 83 points in 7/9 finishes, he had 2 mechanical DNFs including Singapore where he qualified P3 and had a shot for the podium. As a comparison.. Vettel - 225 points (9/9) - 25 points/race Webber - 94 points (6/9) - 15.7 points/race Alonso - 109 points (9/9) - 12.1 points/race Grosjean - 83 points (7/9) - 11.9 points/race Raikkonen - 49 points (5/9) - 9.8 points/race Rosberg - 87 points (9/9) - 9.7 points/race Hamilton - 65 points (8/9) - 8.1 points/race Grosjean lost only to Seb and Nando in their primes, and Webber who had a much superior car in terms of points per race. Sadly we didn't see more of his purple patch due to inconsistency and uncompetitive cars.
You're forgetting that Raikkonen missed last 3 races, had back injury and was in conflict with Lotus for money reason, not to mention the tires change mid-season favored him! Raikkonen was demolishing him before that!
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 I did mention that Kimi only finished 5 out of the last 9 races, including the two he missed. I used points/race as a measurement instead of just points. The point is not to make Grosjean look like a world beater, but he was certainly not as terrible as newer fans think.
@@elvincitore1512 This is an urban legend, Grosjean had to obey team order only once at Germany 2013 and it was because he was holding up Kimi who had the pace to challenge Vettel for the win! Raikkonen is in another league compared to him!
The main issue was Grosjean had his best momentum of his career during the last third of 2013, when Vettel himself had the best momentum of his career. He would have deserved at least one win. Europe 2012 and Nurburgring 2013 were his best chances.
Yes grosjean was a beast managing to score half the points kimi had, on one of the fastest/best cars of the entire grid finishing p8 in the championship. Absolutely crazy performance. Almost as good as massa's performance having 40% of alonsos points in 2012
That's what i'm saying, Kimi destroyed Grosjean all the way through. From mid 2012 (Kimi was a bit rusty at the beginning of that season and didn't liked the power steering) to mid 2013, Kimi wiped the floor with Romain both in qualifying and race craft.
He was one of the best driver when it's about overtake other cars (and one of the only drivers who can challenge Red Bulls at their best era) Sad he didn't had at least one victory
Demolished by Raikkonen, too many unacceptable mistakes for an F1 driver, Gutierrez (despite not scoring any point) matched his pace (you can verify it if you want), overall less efficient than Magnussen. He is quick when everything is perfect (but still not on par with guys like Leclerc), but that's not enough to be considered a top tier driver!
@@FightingTorque411plus you can argue Vettel had bad luck and things outside his control eg Valencia and also the lapped Karthikeyan giving him a puncture
@@Nutsell-ru5sh Nope, he only beat him once and it was due to Kimi's awful strategy (India 2013)! Podiums: Raikkonen 16-9 Grosjean Race wins: Raikkonen 2-0 Grosjean (it could've been more for Iceman if Lotus had better strategist) Points scored: Raikkonen 390-228 Grosjean (imagine how big the margin would've been if Kimi didn't missed last 3 got paid by Lotus second half of the season and didn't had back injury for couple of races)
This man, before Gasly, was France's best hope.
Ever heard of Jules Bianchi ?
@@adriengrange8216 well he died before he had the chance to really show his potential
Ah when you want to answer a comment but you already put a answer under it and think: that’s what I think too, what is this dude called ah it’s me
@@adriangurges8244 finished 9th in a Marussia at Monaco
@@adriengrange8216
Tbh, Chilton sometimes matched him in qualifying and even out-raced him fair and square 3-4 times.
And Chilton isn't Verstappen or even a Hulkenberg.
Grosjean is definitely one of the most criminally underrated drivers in the history of F1. How people label him as one of the worst drivers ever is beyond me...
Because they just saw from 2017 onwards. Even his excellent results with points in Haas in their first season in 2016 was great. He’s always had raw speed
I really enjoy seeing him in Indycar now! He's on fire there, the last race around Long Beach was great!
@@TheFlatPancakeTheory
Dude, Gutierrez out-raced him (despite not scoring any point) and the h2h in qualifying was only 12-9 in favor of Grosjean!
And we're talking about the same Gutierrez who got destroyed by Hulkenberg and beaten by a overweighted Sutil!
It's because of that lack of consistency unfortunately. He could reach such highs and such lows. 2018 showed how much the mental side got to him.
But definitely far from the worst driver.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 so let me get this right? Gutierrez who scored no points. Lost the qualy battle. And was dropped by Haas in favor for Kmag, outraced grosjean? That’s makes zero sense. Grosjean was by far better.
Man, 2012-13 Lotus with Kimi and Romain were such an exciting team, so many races where they were very close to snatch victory in the final part of the race. In my opinion they deserved a lot more victories than the two Kimi won.
The team was in a title contender shape but the luck was always there to make things worse or good
It's a tough ask to win races against Mclaren, Alonso and Vettel especially when that era was dominated by Vettel. No denying they deserved more and it could have been so much better if only they didn't put a $50000 per points in Kimi's contract nearly bankrupting the whole team because of his success.
I still remember back in 2013 after Mark Webber announced his retirement, there were rumors about RBR considering Roman Grosjean nearby Vettel from 2014 on
Kimi and Romain at Lotus was one of my favourite driver pairings
Too bad they drove the team out of money due to their high demands :v
@@AnthroGearhead only Kimi did that
@@AnthroGearhead
It was lotus' own offer to pay him a 50k bonus for a points finish
@Lan They offered Kimi $50k for every point he brought in 12-13 seasons. What's the point in that..? The guy is a world champion.
So at the end of 2013, after two wins and countles podiums and point finishesh they owed him $19.5mil in bonuses only.. 👍
.. Kimi actually skipped last two races because of these monetary issues. The official explanation was a back surgery but who knows..
.. So don't blame him for bringing success to the team.
@@petel7418 the guy who owned Lotus Renault F1 was a shit owner and owned Lille OSC Football team, Royal Excelsior Mouscron Football team, both handled like shit and now owns Girondins de Bordeaux Football team, which he also handles like shit
My eyes teared up with that Hamilton overtake half over the kerb, one driver that must not be forgotten.
You forgot to add his drive in India 2013, where he started from the back of the grid and finished 3rd.
Bro was the verstappen of the vettel era
@@thatonenigeriansformula Surely Vettel was the Verstappen of the Vettel era... Grosjean was more of a Norris, in today's terms.
@@alexander_strachan I’m talking about verstappen during the Mercedes dominance
2012 season was such an amazing season. So many cars could fight for the win. 8 winners, (9 if you count Bernd Mayländer in Brazil).
it could be 11 winners that season.. if Grosjean not dnf in Valencia, Perez not runs wide in Malaysia & Hulkenberg not crash in Brazil.. but 2012 was the great season in 21st century
@@tondynugroho1799 and Schumacher if he had kept his pole and didn't dnf
It's a shame he never got one win
bruh i always thought he did 💀💀
He should have won at the Nürburgring in 2013, but the Safety Car unfortunately ruined it :/
@@Warrioruk valencia 2012 too but his engine died :(
@@blaine319 Yeah :/
Suzuka 2013 could have been his first win, but this is during the time of RB
I like this video of highlights of a drivers career, u shld do these more for ppl like Kovalainen, Kubica, Heidfeld, Trulli, Magnussen etc
Thanks !
Kubica would be mega
Im subbing if he does this
Expecially Kubica. Not a lot of f1 fans ever saw, how good he was
@@aaronmueller5542 Kubica is à little bit overated, he was beaten 3-1 by Heidfeld
a lot of newer fans seriously don't know how good grosjean was in the lotus. amazing video to show them!
RG's moves against Hamilton and Massa were epic. Those overtakes with half of the car on the grass? Daaamn.
People forget his junior career as well. Grosjean is an incredibly talented driver.
correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't he win the GP2 championship twice?
@@rakkinen He won the short-lived GP2 Asia series in 2008/9 after coming 4th in the 2008 GP2 championship. He came back to GP2 in 2011 and won the championship in dominating fashion. I think with around 4 races to go whilst his teammate "Pal Verhaug" never scored a single point all season. Shows just how good Romain was.
He fucked Fernando´s title chances in 2012 at Belgium so, indeed, he was a BEAST behind the wheel.
Imagine if Button won in Canada 2012 instead of Hamilton, BUT GRO PER podium.
I see what you did there.
I think HAM GRO PER sounds even better tbh
Mazespin
Good one
I remember Button finished 16th in that race
2012 was such a bloody brilliant year for F1. So many drivers challenging for wins at various points of the season. Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Button, Webber, Raikkonen, Rosberg, Massa, Grosjean, Maldonado, Perez, Hulkenburg even Michael Schumacher!! So so great
Everyone will remember, once Romain gets his hands on that Indycar Drivers Championship
Team Penske is making it a little bit difficult for him
This aged
What was your favorite Grosjean moment at Lotus ?
For me it was his start at Suzuka in 2013 and his overtake on Lewis at Valencia.
Well for me it was his start in Spa 2012.
You missed India 2013 where he had an insane recovery drive from P17 to P3 (also the infamous "Kimi, get out of the f*cking way")
@@karussoul Yes true but the race footage wasn't showing him enough, too hard to edit....
2013 was romains best season. 6 podiums in a season. Challenging kimi
Spa 2015, started 9th and finished 3rd with a midfield car 🐐
When I see this, I literraly remember why he is good in indycar and why he was bad at Haas. Those cars can be on the limit and beyond without having an extreme reaction from the car. Here, he can slide with it, play with it. With Haas : one inch too much, instant spin. That's sad to have so much difference between cars.
Makes me appreciate the top indy drivers even more and especially scott mclaughlin a relative rookie
well it’s that, and the fact that the turbo-hybrid engines had a shitload more torque, so it was easier to spin out
Tbf, it does take skill to push an unstable car. While some have managed to do it, you can't expect that from even most of the grid.
It is the constructor's job to give the car a room for the driver to push. Be it downforce for turning or resilient engines for overtaking charges.
Tbh hé wasn't that Bad at Haas he make some impressive result and still the best result of the team ever have
Yeah he did have some good results, mainly at Lotus,and pulled off some good moves,unfortunately he made a lot of mistakes ad well. Some quite serious, and that sticks, stays with you.
Man, 2012 was such competitive season. We had RB and McLaren who were the fastest but has reliability issue. Lotus with Kimi and maverick Romain. Williams who had an underrated pace. And Ferrari... who had Fernando Alonso.
Kimi brought the victories, and most of the podiums and points to the team. He was the one who developed the car. After Kimi left the team and went back to Ferrari for 2014 season, Grosjeans best finishesh was 8th in Spain and Monaco. In two races he made it to the top 10(in 2014). 2015 he took his one and last 3rd place finish for Lotus.
.. This is like making a video how awesome Bottas was, taking victories and top10 all time in points, while it was Hamilton who brought the titles.
commentary on Grosjean on the strat at Suzuka in french gives me a goose bumps
Two things made me a Grosjean supporter:
- a race in Valencia in wich he was catching up to Vettel, but car broke for alternator(?) issues;
- a defense against Hamilton at the end of a DRS straight, he pulled to the inside on the last moment forcing Ham to take the outside and decelerate to not do the corner on the gravel.
Got mad that day at Spa because it was incredibly stupid from his part and ended up not breaking Vettel's cycle, but never doubted of what he was capable of.
Not only was this a great compilation of Romain Grosjean, I loved Martin and Crofty's giddiness throughout. They were excited whenever the Lotus and Grosjean were doing well.
Post-summer break 2013 Grosjean deserve more recognition honestly
It all makes sense during the peak Ham/Merc dominance Grosjean said if given a competitive car and is faster than Hamilton
Back when there were 4-5 teams fighting for podiums...crazy
The reason why he wasn’t rated at the time was because, despite being quick, he was quite crash happy and caused some serious incidents
2:47 I love that Romain GROSJEAN
he had some decent performances in a great car
"decent" , "great car"
Imagine Kubica in that 2012 Lotus
He could win a championship title
That what everyone was saying, him and him would have won the title in 2012 or 2013 Lotus..
Alan Permane (laughed and)told Alonso had said to him he would have won the title in 2013 Lotus eventhough they ran out of money(with Kimis bonuses etc)..
.. So you pick Kubica when there were six current world champions on the grid that season(plus Nico Rosberg, a future champion, and the likes of Daniel Ricciardo, Mark Webber, Sergio Perez etc).. Not saying Kubica was bad, he was super talent(kind of wasted talent), but there so much talent on the grid that season(like seven different race winners)..
World champion
If after 2013 he had a competitive car I think we would had a very different Romain
Man I Miss Lotus so much
V8 f1 machinery really played to Grosjean's strength.
When he wasn't crashing behind a safety car, RG was an absolute beast at times
Are you talking about Azerbaiyan 2018? Hahahaha
Because he was not. Only signifiant result on a well designed car, but still way outclassed by his teammate.
It was fun to see Grosjean fight for the race win in the Long Beach Grand Prix a couple of week's ago. Asked if he could have pushed even harder after finishing 2nd, he said yes, but since he is also fighting for the IndyCar championship, he had to be a little careful.
Hardly a beast. Got demolished by Kimi who was arguably past his prime at that stage. He had crashes back then too that ruined other driver’s races and was dangerous at some points. Alonso probably would’ve won the championship in 2012 and 2013 in the Lotus so I’m not getting too hyped on these ‘highlights’
I agree. He had few bright moments, but he's mediocre at best.
The DTS’s fans have no clue* Grosjean was a beast at Lotus
In 2012-13 and 2015 he’s been the best starter of reaction
This guy deserved one Win at the very least
Nobody forgot, just his crash caused attitude to change towards him.
He will get that Win 1 Day his Indy Car days are Just Starting 2022 was a Decent Season for a start 2023 hopefully he builds on it Go on Romain
Killing it now in Indycar!
it's actually crazy that the only reason this guy never won was because of red bull
Thanks for the wonderful video!
This guy is the proof that if you don't have a strong mental, your talent is useless
That move around the outside of Massa at turn 4 in Hungary is also one of the most underrated moves.
Dude, Romain and Kev were beasts at Haas. They Had the whole shitshow in their backpacks
Sadly he was in an era from 2014 onwards that is the worst era for competitive F1. He never stood a chance of a top drive because there was only one team capable.
Yeah his prime years were wasted on a Lotus that failed the new regs and financial issues
Lotus had potential in 2014 but their financial issue is Lotus own fault for putting a $50000 per point on Kimi's contract nearly bankrupting the whole team because of his success.
I mean, I kinda always knew he was kinda fast, but with the fact that i am pretty new to the sport i never thought anything of it. But now i have the confirmation of that.
He was also a beast in Spa 2012 too!
Beast almost ripped Nando's head off
Rosberg speaking french at the end, what a guy
That Lotus was a beast... you can see it in the hands of Kimi as well... that car was amazing.
He was the Andrea De Cesaris from the 2010s
Grosjean was so good, he deserves more recognition
You could say he was- he was on-
2:12 I remember being so annoyed when Grosjean received a drive through penalty for overtaking off track
Honestly the most ridiculous thing i ever saw from stewards. Back then they were ruthless and totally unreasonable
In modern day F1 it would've been fine
Deserved to win a race at least
Finally someone made a video about that. I hope all the kids who made him look like a joke are gonna see that!
The first lap nutcase of 2012 but after that he was criminally under rated
He did a lot of mistakes, people laughed at him. But that was because he was one of the only drivers to give more than his 100%
Mistakes and aggressiveness is apparent only when you want to provide more than what your car is capable of.
I really wished he had a better F1 carrer to his name but that’s part of the sport, being lucky never served to him.
I Hope he gets Indy World champion this year 💪🏽
Couldn't have said it better! He isn't perfect, makes mistakes and isn't the most consistent. But when he is good, he is REALLY GOOD, so much so that it makes me completely forget and ignore all the bad, and he's showing that even now in IndyCar, too! Really manifesting a win for him this season!
He better get a win with andretti autosport this year, criminally underrated
grosjean starts how we all start in f1 games, drive past all the traffic and sneak into p4
Over-revs and gets a bad start
Uses all ERS
Divebombs on the outside
Locks-up
Abosutely no regard for the tires
Nearly goes wide and spins
P11 - P4
Holds back entire grid from leaders
Crashes trying to re-overtake car behind
He was by no means a slow driver, he just has a shit team with a shit car and inconsistent and sometimes dangerous tbh, hey this guy isn't perfect. He has his flaws but is still a fast driver
On his best days he was capable of winning races, it's just a shame he never had that little pinch of luck needed. Hope he has a good run to win the IndyCar title this year.
Most drivers in F1 are incredibly good and the car is what determines your results.
he deserves so much a sit in F1 !
good old times its just come on agreed with me that times are better then now i mean the sound wass so good
Il a clairement pas eu la carrière qu'il méritait. Ses erreurs lui ont coûté cher dans le même temps
Gotta love hearing that French commentator when Romain took the lead at Suzuka. Does anyone have an English translation?
Romain Grosjean has taken the best start, he leads the race the frenchman, exceptional flying start.
Like it or hate it but Grojean will always be remembered for Spa 2012...
well to be honest that lotus was balanced af. i remember him crashing to webber at japan but he never won with lotus... Kimi did
Man that 2015 when team was on brink of collapse for him to get a podium man
I loved that Lotus it was beautiful and Grosjean was very underrated.
that lotus was something else, kimi just about bankrupted the team with that car and his contact clause, grosjean tho during his lotus stint was underrated as hell
lotus at 2012 was actually awesome
He was a beast for, like, 5 races in 2013, after Kimi's relationship with the team deteriotated.
Before and after that he was exactly how he was with Haas. Fast but a complete airhead.
Every single one is a beast in competetive car...
miss this era
*Grosjean's form since the summer break:*
🇧🇪 P8
🇮🇹 P8
🇸🇬 DNF (hydraulics)
🇰🇷 P3
🇯🇵 P3
🇮🇳 P3
🇦🇪 P4
🇺🇸 P2
🇧🇷 DNF (engine)
Total: 83 points in 7/9 finishes, he had 2 mechanical DNFs including Singapore where he qualified P3 and had a shot for the podium.
As a comparison..
Vettel - 225 points (9/9) - 25 points/race
Webber - 94 points (6/9) - 15.7 points/race
Alonso - 109 points (9/9) - 12.1 points/race
Grosjean - 83 points (7/9) - 11.9 points/race
Raikkonen - 49 points (5/9) - 9.8 points/race
Rosberg - 87 points (9/9) - 9.7 points/race
Hamilton - 65 points (8/9) - 8.1 points/race
Grosjean lost only to Seb and Nando in their primes, and Webber who had a much superior car in terms of points per race. Sadly we didn't see more of his purple patch due to inconsistency and uncompetitive cars.
Love it man.
You're forgetting that Raikkonen missed last 3 races, had back injury and was in conflict with Lotus for money reason, not to mention the tires change mid-season favored him!
Raikkonen was demolishing him before that!
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 I did mention that Kimi only finished 5 out of the last 9 races, including the two he missed. I used points/race as a measurement instead of just points.
The point is not to make Grosjean look like a world beater, but he was certainly not as terrible as newer fans think.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 I'm sure some team orders contributed to that
@@elvincitore1512
This is an urban legend, Grosjean had to obey team order only once at Germany 2013 and it was because he was holding up Kimi who had the pace to challenge Vettel for the win!
Raikkonen is in another league compared to him!
Finally someone made this video
He deserved at least a single F1 victory during his racing career
Grosjean gor destroyed by Raikkonen.
The main issue was Grosjean had his best momentum of his career during the last third of 2013, when Vettel himself had the best momentum of his career. He would have deserved at least one win. Europe 2012 and Nurburgring 2013 were his best chances.
i miss him so much in f1
how beautiful the channel's profile is man❤
Where is Spa 2012? 😂😂
I didn't...and his last race at Indycar he just proved it again
Yes grosjean was a beast managing to score half the points kimi had, on one of the fastest/best cars of the entire grid finishing p8 in the championship. Absolutely crazy performance. Almost as good as massa's performance having 40% of alonsos points in 2012
That's what i'm saying, Kimi destroyed Grosjean all the way through.
From mid 2012 (Kimi was a bit rusty at the beginning of that season and didn't liked the power steering) to mid 2013, Kimi wiped the floor with Romain both in qualifying and race craft.
Not the biggest fan of Grosjean because of some of his dangerous driving and hypocrisy but he was definitely underrated during his time at Lotus
He was one of the best driver when it's about overtake other cars (and one of the only drivers who can challenge Red Bulls at their best era)
Sad he didn't had at least one victory
This man is so underrated, he had deserved a win in formula 1
How he didnt get a better drive after lotus is beyond me
Demolished by Raikkonen, too many unacceptable mistakes for an F1 driver, Gutierrez (despite not scoring any point) matched his pace (you can verify it if you want), overall less efficient than Magnussen.
He is quick when everything is perfect (but still not on par with guys like Leclerc), but that's not enough to be considered a top tier driver!
@F1gilles
I meant even though he's quick, he's not that quick. (Grosjean)
The only thing I'll remember about Grosjean, besides him escaping death at Bahrain, is him destroying Alonso's championship at Spa in 2012.
Why does everyone cite Grosjean/Spa to blame and never mention Suzuka, when Alonso also crashed out at Turn 1?
@@FightingTorque411plus you can argue Vettel had bad luck and things outside his control eg Valencia and also the lapped Karthikeyan giving him a puncture
And people doubt grosjean because dts, Actually he is beast in his prime
A beast who got demolished by Raikkonen.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 really you think? He beat a lot kimi before in wheel to wheel
@@Nutsell-ru5sh
Nope, he only beat him once and it was due to Kimi's awful strategy (India 2013)!
Podiums: Raikkonen 16-9 Grosjean
Race wins: Raikkonen 2-0 Grosjean (it could've been more for Iceman if Lotus had better strategist)
Points scored: Raikkonen 390-228 Grosjean (imagine how big the margin would've been if Kimi didn't missed last 3 got paid by Lotus second half of the season and didn't had back injury for couple of races)
2013 MAYBE .. but as soon as you look at 2012 and beyond ... nope. "Beast". lol. And Maldonado was a "Killer" at Williams.
Now he is Indy Car!
I never forgot
That Spa crash destroy his reputation forever, and perhaps even his confidence.
I didn’t know he even had a podium in his career. Seems like the French Daniel Ricciardo with the overtakes 😂
for me a real f1 fan is defined by knowing how fast grosjean was - if you think otherwise, you're just a noob