Indian Challenger Tune From Lloydz Garage: My opinion
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You are spot on with your review of the Lloyds flash. I rode up to Charlotte and got mines done. Love it!
I just got mine done and have to say I love the way it rides now. Luckily was able to get it remotely tuned by a local dealer now. Great Video.
Excellent review, thanks....I'm scheduled for 3:00 Friday at Daytona Indian BiketoberFest. Lloyz will be there, can't wait 😀...will let you know my thoughts. Thanks again!
Had my tune done this weekend at Thunder beach rally in Panama City beach. They are very deceptive on the price of the tune. On the website it shows $599 so I went in to get it done. Tune was by Jeff at Lloyd’s and when I took the bike in nothing was mentioned about it costing more. Bike was there less than 30 minutes start to finish. When I picked it up they magically jumped the price to $804.00. Said that the extra $200 was for labor of removing seat and hooking up ecu. Straight up rip off. Price should be upfront with no hidden charges. Do not be fooled by these folks.
I originally was going to have mine done at my local dealership so I called first for a total price and they told me about the extra 200. That’s the reason I removed it and shipped it myself. I think it was another 60 bucks in shipping cost but I still saved a little bit
Sounds like a really good upgrade for not a deal-breaker price tag.
Your bike sounds great on the video.
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Eric in Kissimmee.
I love these Rinehart slip ons. They sound much better in person. Thanks for watching
A stage 2 flash is the way to go. I have a 21 road master and had it done and dyno tuned, it made a big difference with improved throttle response. You’re bike looks great, nice video.
Where did you get it done at? I have a 20 RM
Thanks for the Advise !
Great review, I was one of the first to get it done. I love it, but I am sending back for some adjustments.
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I have the ftr1200s and I’m sure you’ve heard about the cold starts and stalling out and no gray area in the throttle, well I called Ryan and he said mail me your ECU so I did and man brother all I can say is great things about his work my bike rides so strong and no cold starting issues let me just say it runs like it should, this man has done so much for Indian performance it’s unreal, everyone needs his tune believe me you won’t be sorry
I did the cat delete, and added the zombie pipes from tab, that really changed my 2020 challenger, but the bike was acting a little odd , I’ve ridden my bike for months, the performance was really much better, with these additions, but the bike just needed a little something more, I took my challenger up yesterday to lindian of charlotte,and they did the flash to my bike while I waited,I trailered the bike back home, I live 3 hours away, and couldn’t wait to try it , so I went riding last night, man what a difference, you’ll notice it right away, it’s really running great now, you really have to get this done, if you loved the performance before, wait until you try this. Scott in Fayetteville. Plus the crew their is really great, especially the girl that does the videos for the shop.
I haven’t done the cat delete yet but I’m considering it.
It’s worth doing, it really adds to its power.
Will this cure my engine cut off issue? dealer is no help.
I had the engine cut off one time at a stop sign before the tune but it hasn’t happened since it’s been flashed. I’m not really sure what the cause is but I have heard other make the same complaint as you. If your dealership isn’t any help try contacting the Lloydz team at the Charlotte Indian dealership. They were helpful to me.
@Country Boy I will call lloydz and ask since my dealer can never replicate the issue. Thanks for the reply.
I cannot wait to own one of these one day.
My dream bike
Actually UPS did both labels for me. Put my return label in the box. No sweat no problems. Nice bars. Can't wait to get rid of mine too 😁
UPS was all I used for a long time until they lost several packages of mine in short order with pretty bad service after the fact so I went with fedex out of fear lol. The new bars were a must and these KST’s are perfect for me. Thank you for watching, stay safe
I wish my challenger is 21 or 22 model so I can get this tune.
What year is your bike? The tune should be for all of them with the same engine. You can call them and ask. They were very helpful when I called.
nice upload
about to buy the challenger
i test rode challenger
but not fully able to floor it with that stock seat ! my heels are up
any suggestions on a lower profile seat with a back support , i am 5/7 in a half
thank you
I replaced my stock seat with the saddlemen road sofa and it’s actually taller by an inch so that’s definitely not the one you want but it really is a great seat with back support. They do custom work on their seats so maybe give them a call and see if they have any other models that would meet your need. I have also heard about people lowering the rear suspension some, that may be another option to look into. My bike is a 2020 and I’m still very happy with my choice of bike, you are gonna love it.
@@CountryBoyMoto
oooo i love the bike
the only thing that bothers me
is not able to fully floor it
and the handle bars to far
so it will hurt my back
but i can install a short reach handle bars
to sit up straight
how tall are you
thnx
@@tonyalb3863 I’m 6’-2”. I love the Comanche bars from KST. My neck and back are a serious issue so I had to get those 14” bars to straighten me up. I got a removable backrest on my seat as well for longer rides
@@CountryBoyMoto
i like the setup on ur bike
enjoy it
Hi just wondering if you could please confirm for me that the 2022 INDIAN CHALLENGER DARK HORSE comes with front highway bars on it as stock from the factory
Even though all of the 2022 pictures show them on the bike, the manufactures website does not list them as standard equipment. I would recommend that you call your local dealer and ask them. They did not come standard on my 2020 Darkhorse, Thank you for watching 👍
Throttle is smoother, but still jerky at low speeds.
I just picked up a 2022 Indian Challenger Icon.
Did you do anything else to your bike besides the tune? Ie: pipes, cat delete, air intake.
Thank you. I would like to know what I’m getting into before sinking 2-$3,000 in upgrades.
I did a stage 1 upgrade with the air intake and Rinehart pipes. I love the sound, not too loud but a great tone. No cat delete so far, I don’t see a need for it at this point. The bike has enough power as is for me so squeezing out another couple horses just doesn’t matter. I have added some led lights to the bags and a better adaptive headlight. I also put on toe pegs which are smaller and better looking than foot pegs (to me). I upgraded the seat to a Saddleman Road sofa tho it didn’t need to be changed if 500 mile days aren’t in the plan for you. The bottom line on the upgrades for me is that the handlebars are the only necessary upgrade, everything else is just a “want”. After 4 years, I still really love my bike!
Country Boy, do you have to have the stage 1 and exhaust slipons to get this lloyd's garage tune? or can it be completely stock?? Thanks
It can be completely stock. They just want to know if you have made any changes because it may slightly alter the tune to match. So if you get it now while the bike is stock you will have to reflash it after any stage upgrades or cat delete. I think it’s 100 bucks to reflash after the original tune. Thanks for watching. I am editing another video at the moment about the Rampage lift I got for loading my bike.
You've probably mentioned this before, but I am new to your channel... So what's up with the screen on your challenger? The color is what I am referring to.
It’s the 8” Dark Smoke from Klock Werks. Thank you for watching
Still waiting on my Challenger from the factory... hope I don't get this throttle issue I keep hearing about. I rode 3 of them on demo day, didn't have a bad experience on even one.
It’s not a game changer but can be annoying. The bike is incredible right off of the showroom floor
@@CountryBoyMoto yeah, the one issue all of them seemed to have was the brakes... I felt like my roadmaster brakes were better. And those ain't brembos. I asked the rep about it, we looked over the pads, I'm like why??
Lloydz announced recently they are going to offer remote flashing at Indian dealerships around the country. No more ECU shipping!
Does the Lloydz flash remove the different ride modes on the bike after flash?
No
This sounds like BS. Yeah. Indian is gonna let an aftermarket company come to dealers and void warranties lol. No.
He is an Indian dealer and performance mechanic. He owns a dealership in Charlotte NC. Lloydzgarage.com
@@DarkHorseParatrooper th-cam.com/video/NJ4iKRwXU5c/w-d-xo.html
@@CountryBoyMoto there's no way the manufacturer would honor the warranty though with this, installed at a dealer or not. Unless the manufacturer is on board because the f'd up.
What bars are you rocking
they look badass
KST Comanche bars. I love them!!! They are 14 inch. Thanks for watching.
I had true duals from Bassani installed on my challenger, and ever since I had nothing but problems with my bike, from check engine light being on, engine misfiring, o2 sensors misreading and just bike not running well. Contacted dynojet people and they sold me “power commander 5” and again same problems or worse.
In fact no map to match my exhaust, some maps they suggested made it even worse.
Until I heard about Lloydz ECU flash,
Thank you Lloydz, and thanks to Music City Indian Joey and his crew, my bike runs amazing, I cannot believe the difference.
If you have challenger you must get Lloydz ecu tune.
Don’t use power commander.
Wow that sounds like a nightmare. I haven’t heard of anyone having troubles like that. I hope it gets settled out for you.
I’m thinking of taking my bike to music city for the tune as well. But can’t decide between that and rvs. Are you still happy with the tune?
Yes I am. I’m sorry it took so long to reply. TH-cam notifications are all messed up
How's this tune holding up, any problems? I've heard of some detonation problems/ spark knock so just trying to make sure Lloydz is the right choice
So far I haven’t had any issues but I haven’t put the miles on it this year that I did last year. If I ever do I will certainly put a video out on it.
What kind of handlebar you have on your bike?
KST is the company and currently only has one model of bars for the challenger. They are 14 inch bars and called “Comanche”
Why does everything Polaris builds need a flash to make it run better??
That’s a great point! When I was buying my bike it came down to the Challenger or a Street Glide Special. The main deciding factor was that it was gonna take me thousands of dollars less to get the challenger where I wanted my bike to be than the Glide. In my humble opinion the flash isn’t necessary but is a great performance improvement like the other aftermarket items we can get to personalize our bikes, but wouldn’t it be a great day if the bikes came off the line just as we wanted to begin with? 👍
What is the new and improved top speed? My stock Challenger is 112 mph..
I’m not sure yet, I hit 100 in a blink of the eye the other day but with deer season going on here I didn’t want to risk smacking one lol
That’s hilarious lol
Most are reporting mid 140s
Had mine about 150. It’s hard too tell because 140,150,and 160 are so close to one another. I was racing an Audi on the highway.
Had mine about 150. It’s hard too tell because 140,150,and 160 are so close to one another. I was racing an Audi on the highway.
Did your fuel mileage change good or bad with the tune?
So far no change. It may be a small offset but I really haven’t noticed. I was concerned about that as well before I got the tune but it’s so much better that I don’t care lol. Thanks for watching, stay safe
@@CountryBoyMoto I have done two hour one way rides in sport and standard mode and surprisingly I get better in sport. I'm really torn between this tune and the new one from dynojet, but when even mechanics are saying its a better value than even stage 2 cams its making the decision harder.
If you decide on the dynojet, I would love to hear your opinion on it. 👍
What are the bars on your bike?
KST Comanche bars. 14 inch
Off topic question for ya if you don't mind. What handle bars are those. I see a few different manufacturers. They look bad ass I want a pair 😁😁😁😁 and your vids are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
They are KST Comanche bars (14 inch). At the time I bought mine, the 14 inch was the only bar they offered for the Indian Challenger. I still love them after 3 years
@@CountryBoyMoto thank you love your set up I think I am going to order those bars
If you take in and do anything from Indian shop they delete the Loyds tune than you have to do it all over. Anyone else run into that issue?
I haven’t had to take mine in for anything yet but my dealership is a loydz authorized tune place so I can’t imagine that being a problem. Have you contacted loydz about it? They may reflash it for much cheaper since I know they do it if you make changes to the bike after the original flash. I called them myself and asked.
What seat is that???
It’s the saddlemen road soffa
@@CountryBoyMoto thank you….i have been trying to decide between the Chieftain and Challenger….i hear really good things about the Chieftain….and mix opinions about the challenger…what are your thoughts as a Challenger owner?
I would buy it again. It’s a sporty bagger and the aftermarket is catching up some so that’s nice. I haven’t been on a chieftain so I can’t really give you an intelligent comparison. I’m betting that either will make you a happy camper. Good luck!!!
@@CountryBoyMoto i agree with you 100% i have tested both bikes and both different character. I currently own a 21 Scout Bobber…and i love every bolt on that bike….in some way…its very similar to the Challenger…Thanks again for your input
What about warranty..?
I haven’t had and service issues with bike yet so I can’t say how well or not the factory warranty would work. I do know that Indian dealerships around the country are the only place you can get the tune so it should at least be covered by the dealership itself. It’s a risk I’m sure but I just don’t know to what extent, the best thing to do if you are considering it is to contact your local dealer and have a good chat with them. Stay safe.
So what's the top speed now ?
I personally don’t know the top speed is but I passed a semi truck the other day that was a little slow and by the time I got to his cab I was at a hundred. So whatever the top speed is, I know it will get there very quick.
@@CountryBoyMoto lol nice ! My top speed is 120mph, it will not go any faster. I do know the flash is supposed to unlock that top speed a bit more. Thanks for the reply and ride safe my friend 🙏🏼 🤘🏼
What is the average cost?
What are you asking the average cost of?
What’s this I hear of a new Indian model? Patriot? Faster than a Challenger but still slower than a BMW K16B.
It’s not listed in their 2022 lineup but it might be some kind of mid year reveal. Is it rumored to be the same motor as a Challenger?
When I'm rolling up to a stop with my challanger the throttle is NON EXISTENT AND ALMOST LIKES TO STALL👎
You might just need to have it adjusted, I had a similar issue when I was breaking mine in, even without the upgrades, that’s not normal on this bike, I’d have it looked at.
With the tune or stock? I have heard someone else with a stock bike say that but only one person so far.
Mine was doing the same when I first bought it. I flashed it with an update from Indian and it eliminated the occasional cough and stall, but the throttle lag was still there. I had the Lloydz flash done and even though my bike is stock, it really woke it up. Throttle response is great, no dead spot off of idle and no more speed limiter. This is something Indian should be doing for us owners, but since they have not, you really need to have the Lloyds flash to get everything right and unleash your bikes potential. I think this is the best upgrade you can get for your Challenger.
Thst chrome accent around the speaker grills looks so tacky!!!
I hate chrome