Vernon gets ALL types of weird calls and he still acts like he cares, jinni getting calls were the fans are respectful and tell her that they appreciate her and love her but she doesn't gaf
vernon quite literally cringed when that one fan pulled that weird arresting fancall … to say she dgaf ab her fans bc she doesn’t cater to those parasocial creeps is brazyy😂😂
@@neptuniantreasurebut as u can see in the first fancall, the fan was just talking about how they have met 9 times but she looked like she couldnt care less honestly she was just fixing her hair and answering the fan for the sake of answering. At least vernon still cares about his fans and he doesnt use his phone as a mirror
@@xu-syl missing my point 🌚 y’all judge jini based off these parasocial fancalls, which i don’t think is right, considering no idols likes these calls realistically speaking. it’s crazy how y’all judge idols based off their facial expressions and can make a whole scenario to fit your own narrative. vernon loves his fans sure, but what proof do you have that jini doesn’t??
@@Keepupkaithey chose to spend their money because idols in fancalls are supposed to interact with her fans, so they paid for that, not to see jini fixing her hair
I went on a fan meet before with Jinni and it’s true she did not pay a lot of attention, which kind of upset me. Also it was a lot of money… like, A LOOOT
@@Ppaula77it can go up to 1k dollars I think (heard it somewhere bit it can be more expensive and even you’ll have to buy and spend a lot of money on the idol’s merch beforehand to get picked )
She left Nmixx for a reason and this is probably part of it. She had an attitude problem during Nmixx aswell during not just concerts but fanmeets and fan interactions.
@@skxmyne yea she did. its always seen on their mixxstreams. its either shes against the members ot she made it feel like shes the "lone wolf" and she dont care about being connected with others. there are several instances on their yt videos that she is really against the members as if she stating that "yall dont really know me" and there are times were she was like "i wanted yall to be wrong" to the members and she was just kinda against everyone. except for sullyoon ofc but yea, she was not soft for the members. especially seeing how every nmixx member felt wild and crazy, she was the one who looked like she dont wanna be there. even sullyoon who was very shy became open to nmixx today
@@NikiMiNaj05 she is somehow the only one jinni is comfortable with. like, yoona was the first person jinni saw at her first day at the company, people tend to be closer to thr first person they befriended too. also yoona is a shy person just like her. the difference is, yoona became open with other members.
@@alexriel_are you being serious?? Wtf wow. Do you have any videos or threads that you can signpost me to?? I had no idea this was also a thing for her in Nmixx too wtf.
Not gonna lie as someone that used to adore her, i have to admit the fans have every right to criticise her. FANCALL is basically a service to the fans - she got paid for it too. Not understanding english is not an excuse since language is not the only way to converse. Facial expression and hand gestures can help. Plsu pretty sure she has english lessons otherwise the fancall is limited to koreans only.
JYPE wants idols with golden personalities, is to care for an actual fans and be one family. Jinni must have gotten argue with JYpapi about she and her popularity and left. Thats not golden personality
@@user-fc7yi4ud3m if you actually research hyunjin, you'll see how sweet he is with classmates, members, and animals. it's not fair for someone who has a big heart to be hated because of false information.
Yall are such crybabies and need to grow up, she can touch her hair and fix it if she wants to. Ya'll criticize every little thing and then get surprised when an idol commits s*icide.
She was my bias when NMIXX debuted but I could see she was not very into the whole group. She is extremely good at dancing and commanding stage presence... Its just that she is not a team player at all. I heard she got kicked out because aside from this attitude problem, she likes to rebel with JYPE's policies thinking that she cant be fired. She was once seen with her alleged boyfriend in public, was reprimanded and warned but still did it again anyway.... Still thinking she cant be possibly kicked out on their 1 year from debut
@@niraxlevi9930 it is the truth. somehow, jinni was stealing the whole show, not even mentioning her spiking pink hair. as if she was the ultimate nmixx member. outshining the rest
whats more crazy is Kyujin's dancing was more appreciated, Lily's style was more noticed, Sullyoon became open and energetic instead of sulking within. and lastly, Jiwoo shined more. all after jinni's departure. and for the music, if ever she did left bec fans calling their songs "flops" and she be tired of singing nursery rhymes, jokes on her bec the next album expergo was such a masterpiece that every members vocals had a chance to shine more, especially with their sudden acappella teasers, then the sudden tour, french got crazy for them even a baby was onboard, they got more carefree in midsummers nmixxs dream and then fe304 strikes as if they became the best singers out there. all when she thought it was downhill then nmixx rose to fame lol
i know right .bcoz jyp only keep artist with good manners . u can see all artist under jyp that left the company not have good attitude . like miss a only suzy still in jyp all members have issue jealous bcoz suzy get more than them
I went on a fancall with her twice and I felt the same feel every time. I had hope that she would improve on her behaviour but it never happened. I spent a lot of money and got bare minimum attention back. She just kept on playing with her hair or looking somewhere else. The second time I called her, she went away from the screen twice and she kept on looking somewhere else like last last time. I even asked her a question (I forgot the q I asked cuz it was like 4-5 months back Ig) and she said "huh?". Like where is the proffesionalism?
Honestly its hard to get interested in a just few minutes also she just looks uncomfortable. I've never been speed dating before but these unbearable fancalls remind me of what its like. I mean no ones forcing her but at least shes showing up.
I work at 711 and my pay is shit 💀 but i atleast "act" nice and attention to my costumer because its my job and i get payed, this girl got someone who's fan of her,spend hundreds and shes also payed maybe much more and all shes do is "yeaah, uuhm, okayy" like 💀
When I first volunteered for scanning tickets at an air show, I had to learn it the hard way and always kept a smile no matter how rude or nonchalant the person is whenever I greet them
People praised her way too much before and during her debut with nmixx. She is without a doubt talented but It Got to her head. She thinks she deserves way more because of her popularity at the time which is the reason why she left and/or was removed. That attitude does not jive well in groups.
I don’t blame her for leaving the group or jypp and you can’t assume that’s what she thinks now I don’t agree with her actions either but you can’t assume that’s what’s she thought like being honest with her debut she got to show a lot more than what she got in jyp even having credit on one of her songs
I don't agree with Jini's actions and behavior either but how do you know that is the reason why she left NMIXX? She stated it was for personal reasons and we'll never know what actually happened unless she opens up to us...
@@aerabyeol ya ofc he’s big 3 but she wasn’t really able to show her talent except when they released those predebut videos like jyp is holding back half of the members talent
Im just glad jini left NMIXX like NMIXX is THRIVING without her honestly … like okay girl give us nothing ☠️ like the way jini is treating her fans here ?!?? So disrespectful like fans are paying money just for her to act all ditzy aloof and uninterested .. yikes-
@gcbrieol obviously no one would talk about jini if she didnt leave nmixx ?? What are you trying to get at here ?? It isnt fair for folks who have seen her in nmixx become all of a sudden just a person who stares at their reflection while her fans pay hundreds just for her to check up on herself ?? Are you not getting the message ? Nah NMIXX flourished without jini stop being delusional- they are getting more recognition without her and they will keep rising as a matter of fact … the point is jini really played herself because its unfortunate that this is what she is doing.. the least she could do is smile and at least pretend she cares what her fans say.. instead she just sits there and blankly looks at herself
when she got recognize by many it got to her head and think she may have a solo career after nmixx. but she didnt realize that her time in nmixx was short and by the time she debut as a soloist her fan based isnt there to support her
I don't know, it doesn't look like an attitude problem. The problem is she is expected to act all over enthusiastic, perhaps that's her personality being not suitable for idols. I am speculating as well, but I don't get why majority of comments assuming the negative things first. I also have troubles reacting in a socially acceptable way at times even expressing my true emotions, so people tended to misunderstand me.
Exactly! I scrolled so hard to find a sensible comment like this. I don’t see any issues. Just an awkward person with limited English speaking abilities. I’m awkward as a person, even more awkward when facing foreign people speaking a foreign language to me. She responds to every sentence, just not as expertly. I don’t think she looked disinterested at all.
Knowing how to interact with fans is an expectation for an idol. Fans come before anything because fans pay for the idol's albums and str3am views. If she doesn't know how to act, then don't bother having fan calls. Plus, a lot of fans rely on idols for emotional support, so the idols are expected to make the fans happy when they're interacting especially on a one-on-one situation like this. My mom has told me that I'm too awkward in some situations too, and that's why I'm learning and trying to comfort people instead of retreating when others are crying. Same should go for Jini. If she doesn't know how to act, then she either learn it ASAP, or don't make $$. Regarding the comment above, one of the main issues is also her not recognizing the fan after NINE calls. Let's drag on Jiwoo for contrast here---Jiwoo (Jini's ex-teammate if you don't know) also had a fan call where a fan who met her multiple times, and once the fan joked "this is our first time meeting!" and Jiwoo pouted and said "no lying!". It's clear when idols are trying hard to remember the fan that has spent lots of $$ for them, or when they simply don't care.
@@angelaz2576 oh, not recognising 9th caller, not matching industry expectations is an issue, I admit. But my point is that it could have been an honest/careless mistake, not that she's too arrogant or has a fake personality. Simply applying that philosophy razor "don't seek evil intentions where it could have been stupid mistake". Tldr: I am not denying her mistakes, I am simply stating that it's could be a transgression done with no ill-intentions. Haters shouldn't weaponise such minor conduct issues to incite cyber bullying.
It's a business. The client is paying for what she ordered and the company is not giving anything in return. Learn the difference between talking to a friend on a phone, and paying to talk to a professional idol. If you go to a very expensive concert, traveled long hours, waited hours in line, and then the artist just sings one song without any enthusiasm and then leaves the stage. I doubt you would be saying "ohh it's not an attitude problem. I also have trouble performing in front of a public. I understand him and forgive him."
Comparing this to the current nmixx members, you can just tell why she's no longer in Nmixx anymore. Literally everyone else is super serious about being an idol, performance and fan service wise. Always respectable and sweet in actions.
That's a shame since she actually got the face and potential. It's not too late too, if she could just fix her attitude, ADMIT her mistake, apologize and learn to appreciate her fans more then she could get back on track
It's a lot of money to get a fancall with an Idol, defending her is kinda dumb in this situation, she should be paying attention to her fan that wasted so much money just to see her, like jini is some peoples idols instead of using the phone for a mirror she should've actually paid attention like i said earlier. she's gotten so much praise before and after her debut she debuted :l
y'all are calling her a bad person for just fixing her hair? there were lots of fancalls, actually MOST of her fancalls where she really did care. and those few "bad" fancalls y'all only noticed and called her the worst person is just that.
i get that you obviously really like her & will defend her no matter what, but you know damn well that the criticism isn’t about her ‘fixing her hair’…
@@liroha if you understood my whole comment, I wasn't just talking about her fixing hair. She was literally sincere in most of her fancalls and there were just a few of them bad fancalls where she didn't really care. And it seems that people only noticed the few "bad" fancalls she got and not the good ones. It's not really healthy being one sided and people here are really hating her at this point.
I still remember how much kyujin got hate because of jinni when she left They were saying that kyujin is selfish attention seeker and even the reason why jinni left
i literally comment this in every post about Jinni😭😭😭 Kyujin deserve so much apology along with Nmixx.... I don't even hate on Jinni but those toxic fans keep blaming and Kyujin
@catherinelalnunfeli7285 I had a fight with jinni fans back then they were saying kyujin is a brat and a bad girl and saying so many bad stuff about her and yet they didn't apologise after the truth revealed I really hate them
she was my last member on the list but i never hated her. whats wild is people claiming that she used to be their bias then toxicly hating on her once she left the group and even here on this issue. i mean, thats all the word 'bias' means to you all? when something goes wrong even without concrete context thats it? shes forever evil in your eyes? i wont defend her since the videos are really not enough to form opinions on, but at the least i would not hate her, judge her nor leave toxic comments just because of it. that said, i would not deny that jyp has a very particular stance on attitude and work ethics. if you watched even a single jype contest where jyp himself judged, youd know. he would always say that skill like singing and dancing could be thought and improved upon, but attitude and work ethics are most likely never to be changed. i abide by those words even outside of jype groups, heck, even in artists in general
Yup, its called being a professional. Thats what customer service is. Even when I was a teacher for brief bit a time, you put on a "show" or "mask" for your students/clients bc that's what you were paid to provide. Some students chronically disrupt class or piss you off and you wish you didnt have to teach them. Sometimes you like some students more than others. Some parents are a bit extra and demanding. But those are not feelings you should be showing (without any filter) as a teacher. You dont treat your students the same way you'd treat friends or family
well it’s kinda something u have to have when u become a kpop idol i mean who isn’t excited to meet the reason of u success and the kids and people that look up to u
yeah exactly- especially since you meet the crazy deluded fans on fancalls. Who else is dumb enough to spend that much money for a 1 min videocall or whatever 😂.
Overpriced fancalls is stupid, that's why watching idols in IG live is enough. It's a free app and didn't need to pay for view. So what if it wasn't just the two of you? In the end of the day they will barely remember or cares who they met during fan call. So interacting with them on an IG live is better.
@@K-cookie-h4pits not the fact that she fixes her hair, its the fact that she lacks expression and just replies wuth simple answers.. using "she doesnt understand english well" is also not an excuse.
@@senantiasa out of boreness, I've been watching some old nmixx videos (nmixx in wonderland) and she always seems so distant, almost as if she had a superiority complex vibe. And not only in that series they shooted, but even in random karaoke videos, like she couldn't stand being there... Now, maybe I was diving in too much, but she was always acting kinda strange w them.
You want to know what’s really telling about this video? It’s the fact that the OP couldn’t piece together one fancall where Jini was obviously doing any of the things she was accused of. Why? Why not show her obvious boredom and disinterest if that is the subject of the criticism she’s getting? Im not even a jini fan and have never once heard her sing, but sometimes you just gotta call out obvious bullshit.
@@rerikaisbored absolutely, but if youre going to pass along accusations like that, why not actually show examples of it? Where is the actual evidence of this?? Without that there is no discussion. Simple as that.
@@hzzn the examples are literally infront of you, imagine teling someone you admire them and love them and thats the reaction you get? she doesnt know english my ass, a 5 year old knows basic english, shes just uninterested and she doesnt gaf lets leave it at that, idols arent angels they have diff personalities and some of them are even bullies, but the company and media hides that from us bc everything is altered and not what we see
@@rerikaisbored We are seeing less than 10 seconds from each fancall and I don't see a single thing out of the ordinary in any of them. That's why we need more context and information. Do you base all your final opinions on as little information as possible? Yikes.
If she behaved like this w me , I would have screamed and cried. It's gonna break my heart seeing my fav being uninterested interacting with me , while I give her a special place in my heart.
She is such a…opposite for Lily and other Nmixx members they R such a kind and respectful patooties after she debuted as a solo artist she just disappeared and didn’t get any rewards whatsoever anyways Love u Nmixx.
If you want to be idol, that is a job. Take it seriously, and be courteous and nice to the fans who spend so much time & money on you. Appreciate your fans because they made you who you are today.
I just dont know why would you even put yourself under such a stressful industry if you don't want to work in it, specially if ur getting paid and you know there's ppl spending money on it, if you don't feel to not even act like it find another job, just like one netizen said "if we do our job wrong we get fired"
I will never believe any kpop fans nor kpop news channels on ANYTHING negative about any idols. People always assume, reach, and say the wrongest and rudest things. I know nothing about this girl but people speculating she got kicked out for a "bad attitude" and using to backup completely different arguments is definitely a sign this is NOT the full picture. This feels like the Garam situation all over again.. Having "proof" that she's always been weird is rude, and saying she must act a certain way to be grateful is weird as well. Yes, fan-calls are expensive, but is every idol supposed to act the same way? How do we know the full story? Are you just assuming she's acting like this to be rude? Doesn't sound believable to me at all.
A lot of money, people need to understand that it’s PRICY! And all the money goes towards the company or even herself to help her career. This is not okay. This is so weird and wrong on Jinny’s part.
@@Keepupkai imagine you finally meet your idol on the fancall and all she does is saying “uhm” “oh really...ok” without any enthusiasm, will you feel good? if you are very dense then i feel like you won't even know when your idol is actually bored talking to you so yeah, fans have the right to feel upset as it's not even about the money, it's about the feelings.
@@nungsibii ok?...ik my idol been working hard + I'm not that crazy and desperate to even do so much for a fancall I don't like para social relationship on I'm not spending any money other than albums and concert tickets on a stranger so all your imagination is baseless and useless.Im a Western pop cultural baby & this is why we call kpop fans crazy
i get fixing your appearance and caring about it, i'm constantly insecure of how i look when i'm face-timing friends and fidget with my hair or the camera angle quite often, but while i do this, i ALWAYS make sure i'm listening and giving them my attention and responding appropriately. i maintain eye contact and give expressive responses. her attitude really can't be excused.
@@angelaz2576 are u guys that slow. she maybe did remember them but u have to realize being a idol u have to look nice for the camera otherwise ur gonna be hated.
@@hi.hiyori bro what. she could've checked her appearance BEFORE she made the call; each call is 1 min long so why couldn't she put 100% attention towards the fan??? plus your "look nice for the camera" reasoning does not hold bc even Wonyoung who's KNOWN for wanting to have a perfect idol image doesn't do that on calls (or at least, no one has said anything about her in fan calls). and how do you know she recognized the fan? Jiwoo, Jini's ex-teammate recognized her old fan and when the fan tricked her that "it's my first time meeting you" Jiwoo pouted and said "no lying!". Jini girlie here did not even try.
if she was a kpop boy yall would be laughing and calling her an "unbothered king" for damn sure. kpop stans act weird asf honestly i'd lose my cold at some point if i had to pretend i ppl who can't behave properly in calls for so long. some idols (thankfully not in jinni's case) get borderline SA'd by fans' comments in these calls and yall would still expect them to act professional.
To be honest i think the language barrier may be an issue. I've noticed when koreans try to emulate English acknowledgment sounds like, uh huh, mhm, ah, mh etc in a attempt to sound more casual it sounds like brushing off instead..jini also doesn't have a joyful face often. one of her group mates use to correct her for this reason.
Also I'm not saying acknowledge sounds are exclusive to English, of course not! Im saying specifically when they're trying to copy, i guess? English accent and inflections with it
Hard to have an opinion on this when you really don’t see much going on in this footage. On a side note, I’m not sure ppl understand how difficult it is trying to communicate with another person in a completely different language.
Bro, the majority of people would be able to at least learn the basics of english in a short time if people payed them more than 1 thousand dollars. Plus, they would also learn how to at least act interested and attentive. Even children can do that.
@@SuperAvocadoo go ahead and learn just the basics of Korean in a short time, then go and have a full conversation with someone in Korean and tell me you can understand even 1/10th of what they’re saying to you, and respond back and forth them with complete understanding of the conversation. You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@hzzn You never traveled overseas I assume? You don't need to understand everything to interact with the locals of the country you're visiting. And please, it's not a full conversation. It's a 1 min or something video call...The fans are not talking and asking questions about global warming or something. They ask super simple questions or just say the same expected things. Tip: You can fake you're understanding what they are saying by demonstrating attentiveness or you can simply say you don't understand the topic. Or better, you can ask prepared questions in return to make the conversation feel more interactive. Have you ever heard of body language/face expressions? I heard that's a universal language. Perhaps you cannot do that, but I'm sure the majority of people will be able to do that if they were given a lot of money. People are already doing similar things for free on chatroulette or other apps.
@@SuperAvocadoo First of all, any money from a fancall is going directly to the company. Let's not kid ourselves. The idol may never even see that money. Second, and this no longer has to do with idols and fancalls, but your claim that if you were paid 1k then the majority of ppl would be able to learn a language in a short time and being able to converse in said language. If only learning a language was even remotely as easy as you say! lol. Who here hasn't taken spanish or french in school, for years and couldn't say more than a couple of sentences after they left HS? Japanese and korean students take english for their entire school career and still can't speak or understand it. Many years ago I took chinese for 1.5 years, got good grades, then dropped it and could barely recall anything from my studies, nor was I even able to answer someone simply asking for directions.
y'all do realize that the "yup" "hm mh" "wow" is how idols are literally taught by their companies to respond when they don't understand what you're saying (in english for example which i assume her english isn't the best just like most idols). it's a bad experience for the fan if they need to clarify a lot cause they don't understand so they often just pretend to understand. the fluke just is uncovered quickly when people don't move on to the next subject but this is a really common thing for idols to do and it's not bad intentions or not caring they just don't understand what you're saying and are taugh to make it less awkward like this
yeah so youre gonna be like 😐the entire time? and focus on yourself? idk man there are so many idols who dont know english and go on fanmeets but nothign happens it's cuz they engage while she clearly doesn't
@@marn560 from all compilation of clips of her doing fancalls i can barely sees her smile, she would smile in the beginning but the rest of it just😐😐😐😐😐😐
This why I don’t like fan calls. Most idols do them at the end of a packed schedule and are probably tired and still have to have energy for fancall. Then you have fans that are always buying the calls and seeing your fav all the time ( the girl at the beginning of the video saying she’s seen her 9 times already in one day?? ) I’m sure some idols are tired of seeing the same ppl every fan call lol. I don’t think Jini is being rude she probably just conscious of how she looks . The only ppl complaining about this are the fans that spend too much money to get these fan calls and feel entitled to idols just cuz they spent a lot of money. Fan calls are lowkey a scam and target crazy fans that are in parasocial relationships with idols .
Being tired and having packed schedules can be a factor too. Some fancalls with Jini, she was caring and all but there's some where she doesn't. I feel bad for her.
Is there actual proof that she makes her screen bigger? Also to me it doesnt necessarily look like she doesnt care or listen but rather she seems akward and dont know how to respond properly, she looks really nervous which i noticed in old videos of her aswell, kinda reminds me of myself tbh. She might be struggling with social anxiety or smth, having to speak in a language you arent used to doesnt help either.
Lol, imagine paying a ton of money for a phone call. She isn't obligated to act a certain way. You payed for the call, not for her to be your friend. A lot of the people here complaining are the same ones that decline salesmen at the door instantly or hang up on telemarketers. Your all strangers to her, paying doesn't change that. I can pay your parents a ton of money to call and talk to you that doesn't mean YOU have to like talking to me. Grow up people.
Youre so oblivious and ignorant, her literal job is to interact with fans and be nice to them, the reason jype kicked her out was because she didnt fit the 3 main principles of the company which are: HONESTY, SINCERITY and MODESTY. GROW UP and dont be like miss jinni.
Yeah, I'm glad she left NMIXX. No one cares for her anymore at this point. She swat the great opportunity she will have on kpop industry and now she's just gonna fall down deep and no one will ever notice her anymore. It's just sad. Just my opinion, don't attack me.
i clicked on this video expecting to be disappointed in jini, yet surprisingly i understand her. instead of bashing her for “not caring” about the fans, the reason why she could be so self-absorbed is because of anxiety and low self-esteem. she could be very anxious on how she looks bc idols get judged 24/7 on their appearance. even though someone might look fine on the outside, you never know what they’re going through inside. just my take on this because i tend to space out and become very self conscious as well. her constantly fixing her hair could be a nervous habit as well.
I remembered the information of the former staff, where one of them was allegedly about the fact that "some Nmixx member doesn't care about the fans, money is important to her) I don't want to believe that this information is true
I always had a inner feeling that maybe she fought with staff or members, or disrespected any of them and got kicked out. Because she definitely not leave herself when she was most popular, loved and re debuted asap as soloist
Well that's what happens when you keep seeking attention from idols. Maybe, just maybe stop paying so much money for things such as fancalls when you know these idols are going to have a fake personality towards you. They sought for attention and they didn't get it, these idols should be paid for their music and talents not for pleasing fan's delusions P.S : Im not defending anyone, just giving an advice so you will not spend money
Personally I don't see anything wrong with the fan calls which are shown here. The fans can be right in their assumption but she is an idol. Fans constantly put idols down for not looking perfect all the time. So it make sense why she will be cautious about her appearance.
i remember back in sixteen era, JYP once said.. to be an idol, it's not just about having a great vocals, good at dancing, visual, star behaviour, but you also need a good attitude. i think that's why most of JYP ex-artist left their group. plus, i also remember, there was this NMIXX's video (i forgot the tittle, but i think it's a video for their fans), where haewon tell jinni to smile because she looked like she's bored or just not interested the whole time.
Those are really look like an attitude problem, and I will be getting your clips from different fan chats. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes and I’m pretty she is blacklisted not not as heavy as some other artists. Haven’t seen too many performances of her music shows.
Well if I was an idol kpop or if I was her, perhaps I'm going to be lazy to do a fancall, especially u need to call someone u don't know. But, I will still pretend that I care, at least pretend bcs ur an idol
I understand someone can feel lazy but it's sad that these fans spend so much money just for her to not even give her attention to them for like 5/10 mins
I mean well duh?💀 its your job and the fan is paying like $10 per second just to talk to you. and the entire thing is only about 1.5 minutes. It's like the easiest way to earn money ever
I understand we never know what's going on behind the scenes and maybe one of these she was having a rough day. But there's a lot, seemingly on different days, where she seems the same. It's not really just an awkward 'I don't know what to say haha' it just looks like she's waiting for the call to end... I will say though I watched a few videos of her fancalls while she was in nmixx and they're very different which is interesting
This popped up in my feed and it's sad to see :( Well, all I gotta say is she is like everyone else, still learning. So, I still stand by never assuming something about somebody or if I was the fan, to not take it personally. I've been an nmixx pre-debut fan and I loved her from her first public appearance. Jini is probably a late bloomer? She's yet to understand that serving others is what humans do for the rest of their lives; make others happy. It's the job and what humans are good at doing. The behaviour she's showing here resembles the behaviour when she was with nmixx doing vlives/youtube vids together where she seemed uncomfortable. I hope she's okay and will update her social media soon. I can kind of sense her self-disappointment. Anyways, I gotta do chores now.
the fancams that I’ve seen idols actually care about their fans or at least pretend to. That’s what I can say about smaller groups and nugus..they really care about their fans. There are multiple groups who engage with their fans..NCT Mark is a good example, Monsta X is a good example, BTS is a good example. I’ve seen idols literally sick and still engaging with their fans.
When nmixx debut, she's my bias and i was sooo sad she left the group but i still like and support her. But here, it looks like she doesnt really care or love her fans, to be honest, i think maybe i choose the wrong person to love.. ((am i too dramatic lol))
Really?? Then then don't take money 🤑 from strangers which obviously spend by strangers on these K-pop idols jst for phone call ur comment itself proves how dumb can be someone jst to protect their favourites 🖕
But when she flops and no one cares about her content anymore because she was rude then what. Thye same way she doesn't have to act like she cares about her fans, fans should be able to not give her any more then
@@reremcmillanthey can leave if they don't like her content honestly the audacity and egos fans have that they're trying to hold over idols heads is worse than the ones they're trying to blame idols of having. just cause you have money to spend doesn't mean you can treat people like circus animals.
A few weeks ago a fan talked about how tired sullyoon once looked About to collapse they even said.. But yet she still paid attention and to fan and listen So if Jini can't listen to a fan that spent money to talk to her and fix appearance instead What about sullyoon? She should be resting by then but decided to pay attention to a fan.. Seriously Jini its doesn't kill to listen to someone sometimes
I mean if you go into these fancalls to trauma dump/tell personal stories and treat idols as therapists or your close friends then you’re a weirdo and should spend your money on something more productive HOWEVER if it was a civil & normal interaction between a fan and a kpop idol then that idol should at least pretend to care and listen. I’ve seen really wholesome fancalls where fans made cakes for birthdays or shared their playlists with idols or complimented them and showed support. those fancalls deserve all the attention.
right, even nayeon from twice points this out that haters do this. always show such a short clip when they are adjusting and slow down to make them look bad and intentional
I thought I was crazy. Scrolled so hard to find a normal comment like this. I watched the clips and saw nothing except Jinni being awkward, fidgety and speaking limited English. As a non-native speaker myself, I get awkward when I get put in a spot where I need to speak and listen to English speakers, especially native speakers. I’m also not fun to talk to because I’m shy and hold myself back a lot.
I just keep scrolling through the comments and it's so strange to see so many people making up bullshit reasons for her departure from NMIXX based off of this 2-minute video. If I HAD to make a (tenuous at best) inference, the mere fact she's still in this industry at all speaks to her innocence in my opinion. We know how this industry tends to treat idols who are even so much as ACCUSED of doing something. If it was Jini's fault, maybe JYP didn't want to expose her like that... WE DON'T KNOW. What I do know is that if it was anything like these comments are assuming, he would have likely silently blacklisted her from the industry and left it at that.
Vernon gets ALL types of weird calls and he still acts like he cares, jinni getting calls were the fans are respectful and tell her that they appreciate her and love her but she doesn't gaf
vernon quite literally cringed when that one fan pulled that weird arresting fancall … to say she dgaf ab her fans bc she doesn’t cater to those parasocial creeps is brazyy😂😂
@@neptuniantreasure uhuh … oh really.. wow *fixes hair*
@@Psyche47 WHAT IS THIS LMAO
@@neptuniantreasurebut as u can see in the first fancall, the fan was just talking about how they have met 9 times but she looked like she couldnt care less honestly she was just fixing her hair and answering the fan for the sake of answering. At least vernon still cares about his fans and he doesnt use his phone as a mirror
@@xu-syl missing my point 🌚 y’all judge jini based off these parasocial fancalls, which i don’t think is right, considering no idols likes these calls realistically speaking. it’s crazy how y’all judge idols based off their facial expressions and can make a whole scenario to fit your own narrative. vernon loves his fans sure, but what proof do you have that jini doesn’t??
i usually take the idols side but i feel like the fans is actually in the right here. fancalls are more expensive that you’d expect.
Yeah but that's the fans wish to spend that. The idols doesn't force them to.
people that defend her in this case have no idea of how expensive it is to get one of these calls😭 she should at least act like she cares
Nobody cares...? They choose to spend it
@@Keepupkaiit’s insane how EVERYONE cares
@@Keepupkaithey chose to spend their money because idols in fancalls are supposed to interact with her fans, so they paid for that, not to see jini fixing her hair
@@ilovecsrr ok??!
Exactly
I went on a fan meet before with Jinni and it’s true she did not pay a lot of attention, which kind of upset me. Also it was a lot of money… like, A LOOOT
How much ?
Was it a physical fan meet or online?
@@madkmadk6809 online
@@Ppaula77it can go up to 1k dollars I think (heard it somewhere bit it can be more expensive and even you’ll have to buy and spend a lot of money on the idol’s merch beforehand to get picked )
@@Ppaula774 to 5 figures depending on the group and member
She left Nmixx for a reason and this is probably part of it. She had an attitude problem during Nmixx aswell during not just concerts but fanmeets and fan interactions.
What attitude problem?
@@skxmyne yea she did. its always seen on their mixxstreams. its either shes against the members ot she made it feel like shes the "lone wolf" and she dont care about being connected with others. there are several instances on their yt videos that she is really against the members as if she stating that "yall dont really know me" and there are times were she was like "i wanted yall to be wrong" to the members and she was just kinda against everyone. except for sullyoon ofc but yea, she was not soft for the members. especially seeing how every nmixx member felt wild and crazy, she was the one who looked like she dont wanna be there. even sullyoon who was very shy became open to nmixx today
@@alexriel_why did that to all of the members except sullywoon?
@@NikiMiNaj05 she is somehow the only one jinni is comfortable with. like, yoona was the first person jinni saw at her first day at the company, people tend to be closer to thr first person they befriended too. also yoona is a shy person just like her. the difference is, yoona became open with other members.
@@alexriel_are you being serious?? Wtf wow. Do you have any videos or threads that you can signpost me to?? I had no idea this was also a thing for her in Nmixx too wtf.
Not gonna lie as someone that used to adore her, i have to admit the fans have every right to criticise her. FANCALL is basically a service to the fans - she got paid for it too.
Not understanding english is not an excuse since language is not the only way to converse. Facial expression and hand gestures can help. Plsu pretty sure she has english lessons otherwise the fancall is limited to koreans only.
exactly, at least give effort.
Exactly all u need to do is act like u care
She didn't even try to care, clearly not paying attention at all. Such a waste of money! And let's not even talk about how expensive it was.
JYPE wants idols with golden personalities, is to care for an actual fans and be one family. Jinni must have gotten argue with JYpapi about she and her popularity and left. Thats not golden personality
Yeah she doesnt have a golden personalitie, because of fixing her hair
Bully Hyunjin
@@user-fc7yi4ud3mu still here with that? Lol get ur facts checked before putting that two words together
@@user-fc7yi4ud3m if you actually research hyunjin, you'll see how sweet he is with classmates, members, and animals. it's not fair for someone who has a big heart to be hated because of false information.
I actually love JYP for that
i mean it's true it's a lot of money for a fan call
True like,Your fans give you money🙄🙄
Yall are such crybabies and need to grow up, she can touch her hair and fix it if she wants to. Ya'll criticize every little thing and then get surprised when an idol commits s*icide.
It's not her fault fans pay that amount 🙄 they should be grateful for being able to even be in a call with her
@@nihilongongo yea but there wasting there money when she is not even paying attention and not talking to then that's wasting money
Can I ask how much it cost?
JYP is known for having "good attitude" a requirement for their idols. maybe her attitude made jype boot her out
She was my bias when NMIXX debuted but I could see she was not very into the whole group. She is extremely good at dancing and commanding stage presence... Its just that she is not a team player at all. I heard she got kicked out because aside from this attitude problem, she likes to rebel with JYPE's policies thinking that she cant be fired. She was once seen with her alleged boyfriend in public, was reprimanded and warned but still did it again anyway.... Still thinking she cant be possibly kicked out on their 1 year from debut
It's not a coincidence Nmixx gained more recognition after she left and her solo went unnoticed. The universe works in mysterious ways
Stop mixing situations together it's stupid tho
@@niraxlevi9930 it is the truth. somehow, jinni was stealing the whole show, not even mentioning her spiking pink hair. as if she was the ultimate nmixx member. outshining the rest
whats more crazy is
Kyujin's dancing was more appreciated,
Lily's style was more noticed,
Sullyoon became open and energetic instead of sulking within.
and lastly, Jiwoo shined more.
all after jinni's departure.
and for the music, if ever she did left bec fans calling their songs "flops" and she be tired of singing nursery rhymes, jokes on her bec the next album expergo was such a masterpiece that every members vocals had a chance to shine more, especially with their sudden acappella teasers, then the sudden tour, french got crazy for them even a baby was onboard, they got more carefree in midsummers nmixxs dream and then fe304 strikes as if they became the best singers out there. all when she thought it was downhill then nmixx rose to fame lol
I bet she'll regret it now 😂😂
@@alexriel_as if she decided her hair color stfu. Even then, its not her fault she was the prettiest and most talented nmixx member
"yah"
"uhhuh"
"woww"
😂
starts fixing her hair*
finally we found out why she left nmixx💀
You did her dirty 😂😂 But I agree!
Idk why but i always thought she wasn't get along with another members everytime i watch their reality show
i know right .bcoz jyp only keep artist with good manners . u can see all artist under jyp that left the company not have good attitude . like miss a only suzy still in jyp all members have issue jealous bcoz suzy get more than them
@@seeyou5191definitely not all of them left because of bad manners tho
glad she left lmao
I went on a fancall with her twice and I felt the same feel every time. I had hope that she would improve on her behaviour but it never happened. I spent a lot of money and got bare minimum attention back. She just kept on playing with her hair or looking somewhere else. The second time I called her, she went away from the screen twice and she kept on looking somewhere else like last last time. I even asked her a question (I forgot the q I asked cuz it was like 4-5 months back Ig) and she said "huh?". Like where is the proffesionalism?
not her fixing her hair every 2 seconds and be like "Hi.. uhhw wow.." with a "😐" face lmaoo
You can just tell she looks uninterested
"yuh"
"Uhuh"
"Really"
@@Mango_10798 you fotgot " uhum"
Perfunctory
@@Mango_10798starts fixing hair*
Honestly its hard to get interested in a just few minutes also she just looks uncomfortable. I've never been speed dating before but these unbearable fancalls remind me of what its like. I mean no ones forcing her but at least shes showing up.
I work at 711 and my pay is shit 💀 but i atleast "act" nice and attention to my costumer because its my job and i get payed, this girl got someone who's fan of her,spend hundreds and shes also payed maybe much more and all shes do is "yeaah, uuhm, okayy" like 💀
Yo but.. fr...
Fr
When I first volunteered for scanning tickets at an air show, I had to learn it the hard way and always kept a smile no matter how rude or nonchalant the person is whenever I greet them
People praised her way too much before and during her debut with nmixx. She is without a doubt talented but It Got to her head. She thinks she deserves way more because of her popularity at the time which is the reason why she left and/or was removed. That attitude does not jive well in groups.
I don’t blame her for leaving the group or jypp and you can’t assume that’s what she thinks now I don’t agree with her actions either but you can’t assume that’s what’s she thought like being honest with her debut she got to show a lot more than what she got in jyp even having credit on one of her songs
I don't agree with Jini's actions and behavior either but how do you know that is the reason why she left NMIXX? She stated it was for personal reasons and we'll never know what actually happened unless she opens up to us...
jinni was doing better in jyp, her popuairty was way higher too@@Sweetbugflower
@@aerabyeol ya ofc he’s big 3 but she wasn’t really able to show her talent except when they released those predebut videos like jyp is holding back half of the members talent
@@bellearena000 best comment I've seen in a while
Her's an idea,
Just enjoy the music and don't invest too much on the artist...
Exactly 💯
Hard to do tht coz it's a idol industry not a simple singer
came here to say this
Her music is even worse
Im just glad jini left NMIXX like NMIXX is THRIVING without her honestly … like okay girl give us nothing ☠️ like the way jini is treating her fans here ?!?? So disrespectful like fans are paying money just for her to act all ditzy aloof and uninterested .. yikes-
On top of that she hung up on a fan who was about to show her a letter- she’s cancelled I fear 🤞
When I told you I gasped when she hang up on the fan that was gonna read a letter, I pray she gets cancelled that’s so fucked up
@@numberonekangyeosangstan exactly- canceled fr
@gcbrieol obviously no one would talk about jini if she didnt leave nmixx ?? What are you trying to get at here ?? It isnt fair for folks who have seen her in nmixx become all of a sudden just a person who stares at their reflection while her fans pay hundreds just for her to check up on herself ?? Are you not getting the message ? Nah NMIXX flourished without jini stop being delusional- they are getting more recognition without her and they will keep rising as a matter of fact … the point is jini really played herself because its unfortunate that this is what she is doing.. the least she could do is smile and at least pretend she cares what her fans say.. instead she just sits there and blankly looks at herself
when she got recognize by many it got to her head and think she may have a solo career after nmixx. but she didnt realize that her time in nmixx was short and by the time she debut as a soloist her fan based isnt there to support her
Kpop fans literally believe what they see online and instead of fact checking it whether it's edited or not, they go add fuel to the flame
The fan:i love u sm i ador u sm I'm ur biggest fan
Her: oh rllyy......ok...idgaf
Go girl give us nothing💀
I agree but I think u meant to say biggest idol right?😭
I suppose they meant “I am your biggest fan” but tbh it doesn’t really matter to me because I understood it anyway
@@hnata00 ouhh sorry it was a typo anyways thanks for correcting me
I mean what should you even say when a random person says: iM YoUr BiGgEsT FaN
nah jini would say “umm”
I don't know, it doesn't look like an attitude problem.
The problem is she is expected to act all over enthusiastic, perhaps that's her personality being not suitable for idols. I am speculating as well, but I don't get why majority of comments assuming the negative things first.
I also have troubles reacting in a socially acceptable way at times even expressing my true emotions, so people tended to misunderstand me.
Exactly! I scrolled so hard to find a sensible comment like this. I don’t see any issues. Just an awkward person with limited English speaking abilities. I’m awkward as a person, even more awkward when facing foreign people speaking a foreign language to me. She responds to every sentence, just not as expertly. I don’t think she looked disinterested at all.
Knowing how to interact with fans is an expectation for an idol. Fans come before anything because fans pay for the idol's albums and str3am views. If she doesn't know how to act, then don't bother having fan calls. Plus, a lot of fans rely on idols for emotional support, so the idols are expected to make the fans happy when they're interacting especially on a one-on-one situation like this.
My mom has told me that I'm too awkward in some situations too, and that's why I'm learning and trying to comfort people instead of retreating when others are crying. Same should go for Jini. If she doesn't know how to act, then she either learn it ASAP, or don't make $$.
Regarding the comment above, one of the main issues is also her not recognizing the fan after NINE calls. Let's drag on Jiwoo for contrast here---Jiwoo (Jini's ex-teammate if you don't know) also had a fan call where a fan who met her multiple times, and once the fan joked "this is our first time meeting!" and Jiwoo pouted and said "no lying!". It's clear when idols are trying hard to remember the fan that has spent lots of $$ for them, or when they simply don't care.
@@angelaz2576 oh, not recognising 9th caller, not matching industry expectations is an issue, I admit.
But my point is that it could have been an honest/careless mistake, not that she's too arrogant or has a fake personality. Simply applying that philosophy razor "don't seek evil intentions where it could have been stupid mistake".
Tldr: I am not denying her mistakes, I am simply stating that it's could be a transgression done with no ill-intentions. Haters shouldn't weaponise such minor conduct issues to incite cyber bullying.
@@badgoodbadgoodbadgood🤝 got it, I agree with what you said. she's probably not a bad person but definitely needs to improve on her fan service.
It's a business. The client is paying for what she ordered and the company is not giving anything in return.
Learn the difference between talking to a friend on a phone, and paying to talk to a professional idol.
If you go to a very expensive concert, traveled long hours, waited hours in line, and then the artist just sings one song without any enthusiasm and then leaves the stage. I doubt you would be saying "ohh it's not an attitude problem. I also have trouble performing in front of a public. I understand him and forgive him."
Comparing this to the current nmixx members, you can just tell why she's no longer in Nmixx anymore. Literally everyone else is super serious about being an idol, performance and fan service wise. Always respectable and sweet in actions.
There is something wrong with her that's why JYP kick her out. I mean
Maybe
Jyp didn't kick her out inform yourself she left because of personal reasons
@@Zukamora personal reason was the best way for her to not end her career
@@Zukamora"Personal reason " That's Lie! We know the artist has a problem
@@Zukamora untold personal reason is one of the way to say "I was punished" in idol language lol
That's a shame since she actually got the face and potential. It's not too late too, if she could just fix her attitude, ADMIT her mistake, apologize and learn to appreciate her fans more then she could get back on track
she is pretty talented too its a shame she don't care at least she should pretend to care
Jini is not in the wrong
@@Mr-pn2ehhow? did u even see the video
this is not just a video call bro, this is a fan service but digitally 😪
Like fr she doesn't care that the fan tell her they meet the nine time and wasn't surprised i guess she just care about her looks
There are fancalls weirder and cringy these ones at least all cute giving her support etc the least she could do is "act" or give better reactions
“Eyes are the windows to our soul.” You can tell by her eyes that she doesn’t like what she’s doing.
JYP prioritises good manners in idols yk
It’s probably why she’s no longer there
Hyunjin left the chat
It's a lot of money to get a fancall with an Idol, defending her is kinda dumb in this situation, she should be paying attention to her fan that wasted so much money just to see her, like jini is some peoples idols instead of using the phone for a mirror she should've actually paid attention like i said earlier. she's gotten so much praise before and after her debut she debuted :l
Some people fidget with their hair btw
@@Nayeon-hd2qqgoing off screen while somoene is paying to meet u online?
y'all are calling her a bad person for just fixing her hair? there were lots of fancalls, actually MOST of her fancalls where she really did care. and those few "bad" fancalls y'all only noticed and called her the worst person is just that.
i get that you obviously really like her & will defend her no matter what, but you know damn well that the criticism isn’t about her ‘fixing her hair’…
@@liroha if you understood my whole comment, I wasn't just talking about her fixing hair. She was literally sincere in most of her fancalls and there were just a few of them bad fancalls where she didn't really care. And it seems that people only noticed the few "bad" fancalls she got and not the good ones. It's not really healthy being one sided and people here are really hating her at this point.
True colours are being shown
I still remember how much kyujin got hate because of jinni when she left
They were saying that kyujin is selfish attention seeker and even the reason why jinni left
i literally comment this in every post about Jinni😭😭😭 Kyujin deserve so much apology along with Nmixx.... I don't even hate on Jinni but those toxic fans keep blaming and Kyujin
@catherinelalnunfeli7285 I had a fight with jinni fans back then they were saying kyujin is a brat and a bad girl and saying so many bad stuff about her and yet they didn't apologise after the truth revealed I really hate them
she was my last member on the list but i never hated her. whats wild is people claiming that she used to be their bias then toxicly hating on her once she left the group and even here on this issue.
i mean, thats all the word 'bias' means to you all? when something goes wrong even without concrete context thats it? shes forever evil in your eyes?
i wont defend her since the videos are really not enough to form opinions on, but at the least i would not hate her, judge her nor leave toxic comments just because of it.
that said, i would not deny that jyp has a very particular stance on attitude and work ethics. if you watched even a single jype contest where jyp himself judged, youd know.
he would always say that skill like singing and dancing could be thought and improved upon, but attitude and work ethics are most likely never to be changed.
i abide by those words even outside of jype groups, heck, even in artists in general
Lmaooo that’s exactly how I look in online class
Tbh I would find it hard to act interested in people I don’t know that tell me to do random things. I don’t know how these idols do it.
I can tell most of them don't like these interactions with random fans but still do it and act interested just so they won't get cancelled
Yup, its called being a professional. Thats what customer service is. Even when I was a teacher for brief bit a time, you put on a "show" or "mask" for your students/clients bc that's what you were paid to provide.
Some students chronically disrupt class or piss you off and you wish you didnt have to teach them. Sometimes you like some students more than others. Some parents are a bit extra and demanding. But those are not feelings you should be showing (without any filter) as a teacher. You dont treat your students the same way you'd treat friends or family
@@KY-jd1nl hmm I see this was a good explanation
well it’s kinda something u have to have when u become a kpop idol i mean who isn’t excited to meet the reason of u success and the kids and people that look up to u
yeah exactly- especially since you meet the crazy deluded fans on fancalls. Who else is dumb enough to spend that much money for a 1 min videocall or whatever 😂.
Overpriced fancalls is stupid, that's why watching idols in IG live is enough. It's a free app and didn't need to pay for view.
So what if it wasn't just the two of you? In the end of the day they will barely remember or cares who they met during fan call.
So interacting with them on an IG live is better.
Maybe she treated the other members and staff like this too
Weird assumption, I’m not defending her here but let’s not assume she treated her members badly
@@mjgoat2366 people are allowed to speculate
Fixing her hair in front of them? Wow she treats them so badly
@@K-cookie-h4pits not the fact that she fixes her hair, its the fact that she lacks expression and just replies wuth simple answers.. using "she doesnt understand english well" is also not an excuse.
@@선혜365 oh my gosh, what do you want her to do? Why would you pay for a fan called then if you don’t like her like make it make sense
i mean.. it was obvious in nmixx that she had an attitude problem. which is shown more here- damn jini.. step up ur game man 😞
@@senantiasa out of boreness, I've been watching some old nmixx videos (nmixx in wonderland) and she always seems so distant, almost as if she had a superiority complex vibe. And not only in that series they shooted, but even in random karaoke videos, like she couldn't stand being there... Now, maybe I was diving in too much, but she was always acting kinda strange w them.
@@MaryyDeriuCan u give me an ep?
You want to know what’s really telling about this video? It’s the fact that the OP couldn’t piece together one fancall where Jini was obviously doing any of the things she was accused of. Why? Why not show her obvious boredom and disinterest if that is the subject of the criticism she’s getting? Im not even a jini fan and have never once heard her sing, but sometimes you just gotta call out obvious bullshit.
EXACTLY. I’m not a fan either, but this video seems like someone is bitter or trying to drag
even idols can have bad attitude problems too you know stop living inside a bubble and try to defend them lol
@@rerikaisbored absolutely, but if youre going to pass along accusations like that, why not actually show examples of it? Where is the actual evidence of this?? Without that there is no discussion. Simple as that.
@@hzzn the examples are literally infront of you, imagine teling someone you admire them and love them and thats the reaction you get? she doesnt know english my ass, a 5 year old knows basic english, shes just uninterested and she doesnt gaf lets leave it at that, idols arent angels they have diff personalities and some of them are even bullies, but the company and media hides that from us bc everything is altered and not what we see
@@rerikaisbored We are seeing less than 10 seconds from each fancall and I don't see a single thing out of the ordinary in any of them. That's why we need more context and information. Do you base all your final opinions on as little information as possible? Yikes.
If she behaved like this w me , I would have screamed and cried. It's gonna break my heart seeing my fav being uninterested interacting with me , while I give her a special place in my heart.
no wonder jype removed her
She left, he never kicked her out
so they say@@itsceleste8825
she was never kicked out, it was her decision to leave
Lol Don't roast her
She will feel bad
@@itsceleste8825 She left on her own accord (as instructed by JYPE) as to not make the company or her look bad. Cope
Attitude is number 1 in JYP, than talents and skills.
Why aren’t they uploading the whole clip why cut it how are we supposed to believe an edited video?
She is such a…opposite for Lily and other Nmixx members they R such a kind and respectful patooties after she debuted as a solo artist she just disappeared and didn’t get any rewards whatsoever anyways Love u Nmixx.
I have to agree, Lily is so kind esp on her lives
@@petalvane her lives are like channie's room omg so comfy and lovely,...she gives me chan's lil sis vibes lol
If you want to be idol, that is a job. Take it seriously, and be courteous and nice to the fans who spend so much time & money on you. Appreciate your fans because they made you who you are today.
Yeah that wasn’t the nicest thing done by her but we never know -
I just dont know why would you even put yourself under such a stressful industry if you don't want to work in it, specially if ur getting paid and you know there's ppl spending money on it, if you don't feel to not even act like it find another job, just like one netizen said "if we do our job wrong we get fired"
Fr
I will never believe any kpop fans nor kpop news channels on ANYTHING negative about any idols. People always assume, reach, and say the wrongest and rudest things. I know nothing about this girl but people speculating she got kicked out for a "bad attitude" and using to backup completely different arguments is definitely a sign this is NOT the full picture. This feels like the Garam situation all over again.. Having "proof" that she's always been weird is rude, and saying she must act a certain way to be grateful is weird as well. Yes, fan-calls are expensive, but is every idol supposed to act the same way? How do we know the full story? Are you just assuming she's acting like this to be rude? Doesn't sound believable to me at all.
A lot of money, people need to understand that it’s PRICY! And all the money goes towards the company or even herself to help her career. This is not okay. This is so weird and wrong on Jinny’s part.
Ok they choose to spend it?
@@Keepupkai And if she disrespects the fans, fans will stop paying for her, and she will go broke lol.
@@whatever6455 what did she do dat was disrespectful!?
@@Keepupkai imagine you finally meet your idol on the fancall and all she does is saying “uhm” “oh really...ok” without any enthusiasm, will you feel good? if you are very dense then i feel like you won't even know when your idol is actually bored talking to you so yeah, fans have the right to feel upset as it's not even about the money, it's about the feelings.
@@nungsibii ok?...ik my idol been working hard + I'm not that crazy and desperate to even do so much for a fancall I don't like para social relationship on I'm not spending any money other than albums and concert tickets on a stranger so all your imagination is baseless and useless.Im a Western pop cultural baby & this is why we call kpop fans crazy
i get fixing your appearance and caring about it, i'm constantly insecure of how i look when i'm face-timing friends and fidget with my hair or the camera angle quite often, but while i do this, i ALWAYS make sure i'm listening and giving them my attention and responding appropriately. i maintain eye contact and give expressive responses. her attitude really can't be excused.
Paying 1k+ to talk with someone who dont even know u is crazy
people dont realize that jinni spoke up about having NO SELF CONFIDENCE before she left NMIXX.
so what? she should do her job hello? at least smile and remember the fans who paid money to get a fan call for NINE times?!
@@angelaz2576 are u guys that slow. she maybe did remember them but u have to realize being a idol u have to look nice for the camera otherwise ur gonna be hated.
@@hi.hiyori bro what. she could've checked her appearance BEFORE she made the call; each call is 1 min long so why couldn't she put 100% attention towards the fan??? plus your "look nice for the camera" reasoning does not hold bc even Wonyoung who's KNOWN for wanting to have a perfect idol image doesn't do that on calls (or at least, no one has said anything about her in fan calls). and how do you know she recognized the fan? Jiwoo, Jini's ex-teammate recognized her old fan and when the fan tricked her that "it's my first time meeting you" Jiwoo pouted and said "no lying!". Jini girlie here did not even try.
if she was a kpop boy yall would be laughing and calling her an "unbothered king" for damn sure. kpop stans act weird asf honestly i'd lose my cold at some point if i had to pretend i ppl who can't behave properly in calls for so long. some idols (thankfully not in jinni's case) get borderline SA'd by fans' comments in these calls and yall would still expect them to act professional.
To be honest i think the language barrier may be an issue. I've noticed when koreans try to emulate English acknowledgment sounds like, uh huh, mhm, ah, mh etc in a attempt to sound more casual it sounds like brushing off instead..jini also doesn't have a joyful face often. one of her group mates use to correct her for this reason.
Also I'm not saying acknowledge sounds are exclusive to English, of course not! Im saying specifically when they're trying to copy, i guess? English accent and inflections with it
its just average hype house behaviour
She also had a tiktok phase 😭
@@hallooos7585what is a tiktok phase? Is it like a pick me girl phase?
oh jini what happened to you :(
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Hard to have an opinion on this when you really don’t see much going on in this footage. On a side note, I’m not sure ppl understand how difficult it is trying to communicate with another person in a completely different language.
Yea i need more full videos
Bro, the majority of people would be able to at least learn the basics of english in a short time if people payed them more than 1 thousand dollars. Plus, they would also learn how to at least act interested and attentive. Even children can do that.
@@SuperAvocadoo go ahead and learn just the basics of Korean in a short time, then go and have a full conversation with someone in Korean and tell me you can understand even 1/10th of what they’re saying to you, and respond back and forth them with complete understanding of the conversation. You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@hzzn You never traveled overseas I assume? You don't need to understand everything to interact with the locals of the country you're visiting.
And please, it's not a full conversation. It's a 1 min or something video call...The fans are not talking and asking questions about global warming or something. They ask super simple questions or just say the same expected things.
Tip: You can fake you're understanding what they are saying by demonstrating attentiveness or you can simply say you don't understand the topic. Or better, you can ask prepared questions in return to make the conversation feel more interactive. Have you ever heard of body language/face expressions? I heard that's a universal language.
Perhaps you cannot do that, but I'm sure the majority of people will be able to do that if they were given a lot of money. People are already doing similar things for free on chatroulette or other apps.
@@SuperAvocadoo First of all, any money from a fancall is going directly to the company. Let's not kid ourselves. The idol may never even see that money. Second, and this no longer has to do with idols and fancalls, but your claim that if you were paid 1k then the majority of ppl would be able to learn a language in a short time and being able to converse in said language. If only learning a language was even remotely as easy as you say! lol. Who here hasn't taken spanish or french in school, for years and couldn't say more than a couple of sentences after they left HS? Japanese and korean students take english for their entire school career and still can't speak or understand it. Many years ago I took chinese for 1.5 years, got good grades, then dropped it and could barely recall anything from my studies, nor was I even able to answer someone simply asking for directions.
There’s nothing wrong with trying to fix your hair. Gosh K-pop fans are always looking for some drama to start.
y'all do realize that the "yup" "hm mh" "wow" is how idols are literally taught by their companies to respond when they don't understand what you're saying (in english for example which i assume her english isn't the best just like most idols). it's a bad experience for the fan if they need to clarify a lot cause they don't understand so they often just pretend to understand. the fluke just is uncovered quickly when people don't move on to the next subject but this is a really common thing for idols to do and it's not bad intentions or not caring they just don't understand what you're saying and are taugh to make it less awkward like this
I’m sure that’s how most people would respond too if they don’t understand something
@@brennathecatlover4360 exactly it's awkward for them too when they would otherwise have to admit they didn't understand
@@tiaralcu I’m sure most of us do it too lol
yeah so youre gonna be like 😐the entire time? and focus on yourself? idk man there are so many idols who dont know english and go on fanmeets but nothign happens it's cuz they engage while she clearly doesn't
@@marn560 from all compilation of clips of her doing fancalls i can barely sees her smile, she would smile in the beginning but the rest of it just😐😐😐😐😐😐
these video call clips looks heavily edited to make it seem bad.
This why I don’t like fan calls. Most idols do them at the end of a packed schedule and are probably tired and still have to have energy for fancall. Then you have fans that are always buying the calls and seeing your fav all the time ( the girl at the beginning of the video saying she’s seen her 9 times already in one day?? ) I’m sure some idols are tired of seeing the same ppl every fan call lol. I don’t think Jini is being rude she probably just conscious of how she looks . The only ppl complaining about this are the fans that spend too much money to get these fan calls and feel entitled to idols just cuz they spent a lot of money. Fan calls are lowkey a scam and target crazy fans that are in parasocial relationships with idols .
Being tired and having packed schedules can be a factor too. Some fancalls with Jini, she was caring and all but there's some where she doesn't. I feel bad for her.
she looks quite happy to take her fans time and money while checking herself on the phone! HOT!
Is there actual proof that she makes her screen bigger? Also to me it doesnt necessarily look like she doesnt care or listen but rather she seems akward and dont know how to respond properly, she looks really nervous which i noticed in old videos of her aswell, kinda reminds me of myself tbh. She might be struggling with social anxiety or smth, having to speak in a language you arent used to doesnt help either.
Sounds like this line of work isn’t for her then
Lol, imagine paying a ton of money for a phone call. She isn't obligated to act a certain way. You payed for the call, not for her to be your friend. A lot of the people here complaining are the same ones that decline salesmen at the door instantly or hang up on telemarketers. Your all strangers to her, paying doesn't change that. I can pay your parents a ton of money to call and talk to you that doesn't mean YOU have to like talking to me. Grow up people.
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Youre so oblivious and ignorant, her literal job is to interact with fans and be nice to them, the reason jype kicked her out was because she didnt fit the 3 main principles of the company which are: HONESTY, SINCERITY and MODESTY. GROW UP and dont be like miss jinni.
Yeah, I'm glad she left NMIXX.
No one cares for her anymore at this point.
She swat the great opportunity she will have on kpop industry and now she's just gonna fall down deep and no one will ever notice her anymore. It's just sad.
Just my opinion, don't attack me.
i clicked on this video expecting to be disappointed in jini, yet surprisingly i understand her. instead of bashing her for “not caring” about the fans, the reason why she could be so self-absorbed is because of anxiety and low self-esteem. she could be very anxious on how she looks bc idols get judged 24/7 on their appearance. even though someone might look fine on the outside, you never know what they’re going through inside. just my take on this because i tend to space out and become very self conscious as well. her constantly fixing her hair could be a nervous habit as well.
Don't take money for it then
why is she a kpop idol in the 1st place then
alright i love jini but this is not okay 😭
I remembered the information of the former staff, where one of them was allegedly about the fact that "some Nmixx member doesn't care about the fans, money is important to her) I don't want to believe that this information is true
where'd you get this?
@@hikarii53 I don't remember on the internet
I always had a inner feeling that maybe she fought with staff or members, or disrespected any of them and got kicked out. Because she definitely not leave herself when she was most popular, loved and re debuted asap as soloist
Well that's what happens when you keep seeking attention from idols. Maybe, just maybe stop paying so much money for things such as fancalls when you know these idols are going to have a fake personality towards you.
They sought for attention and they didn't get it, these idols should be paid for their music and talents not for pleasing fan's delusions
P.S : Im not defending anyone, just giving an advice so you will not spend money
she's actually so real for that
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Personally I don't see anything wrong with the fan calls which are shown here.
The fans can be right in their assumption but she is an idol. Fans constantly put idols down for not looking perfect all the time. So it make sense why she will be cautious about her appearance.
Nah ,you have a problem if you can't see the wrong here .😂
i would act like her ngl🤣🤣💀
i remember back in sixteen era, JYP once said.. to be an idol, it's not just about having a great vocals, good at dancing, visual, star behaviour, but you also need a good attitude.
i think that's why most of JYP ex-artist left their group.
plus, i also remember, there was this NMIXX's video (i forgot the tittle, but i think it's a video for their fans), where haewon tell jinni to smile because she looked like she's bored or just not interested the whole time.
Bruh she looks lovely. Yall were just judging her because she can't display emotions well
Those are really look like an attitude problem, and I will be getting your clips from different fan chats. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes and I’m pretty she is blacklisted not not as heavy as some other artists. Haven’t seen too many performances of her music shows.
Well if I was an idol kpop or if I was her, perhaps I'm going to be lazy to do a fancall, especially u need to call someone u don't know. But, I will still pretend that I care, at least pretend bcs ur an idol
I understand someone can feel lazy but it's sad that these fans spend so much money just for her to not even give her attention to them for like 5/10 mins
@@mxnsxxra5631 yes, that's why "at least" pretend like you care. They spend so money on her, but she did this
I mean well duh?💀 its your job and the fan is paying like $10 per second just to talk to you. and the entire thing is only about 1.5 minutes. It's like the easiest way to earn money ever
I understand we never know what's going on behind the scenes and maybe one of these she was having a rough day. But there's a lot, seemingly on different days, where she seems the same. It's not really just an awkward 'I don't know what to say haha' it just looks like she's waiting for the call to end... I will say though I watched a few videos of her fancalls while she was in nmixx and they're very different which is interesting
This popped up in my feed and it's sad to see :(
Well, all I gotta say is she is like everyone else, still learning. So, I still stand by never assuming something about somebody or if I was the fan, to not take it personally.
I've been an nmixx pre-debut fan and I loved her from her first public appearance. Jini is probably a late bloomer? She's yet to understand that serving others is what humans do for the rest of their lives; make others happy. It's the job and what humans are good at doing. The behaviour she's showing here resembles the behaviour when she was with nmixx doing vlives/youtube vids together where she seemed uncomfortable.
I hope she's okay and will update her social media soon. I can kind of sense her self-disappointment.
Anyways, I gotta do chores now.
I cannot imagine paying that much for a fan call and having the idol act like that I’d actually cry.
:(( imagine fans paying to meet their idol for this
Still love her a lot😭😭🔥🔥
Wait did she actually hang up on the phone when she said to her i will read you a letter i wrote for you ??? Wtf this is so rude znd cruel 😢
She didn't
@@La-PetitMortyou know nothing abt her hun, shut up.
To me it looks more as if she's nervous and trying to overplay it by touching her phone and fixing her hair and earphones tbh.
do idols generally look unenthusiastic during fancalls? or ppl just coming for her? either way she should try harder to fake a smile
the fancams that I’ve seen idols actually care about their fans or at least pretend to. That’s what I can say about smaller groups and nugus..they really care about their fans. There are multiple groups who engage with their fans..NCT Mark is a good example, Monsta X is a good example, BTS is a good example. I’ve seen idols literally sick and still engaging with their fans.
G I-DLE are always nice in Fancalls and they give anntention to their Neverlands (fans) 💗💗
IVE especially wonyoung are usually really passionate with their phonecalls with fans.
@@Soyeonswife26 YES! Gidle are literally so nice towards their friends!!
Fr tho Danielle from newjeans is such a sunshine she really treat her fans well
It looks like she's listening to me. At least she responds.
We should see clips of fancalls with korean fans. A foreign language could be the problem
When nmixx debut, she's my bias and i was sooo sad she left the group but i still like and support her. But here, it looks like she doesnt really care or love her fans, to be honest, i think maybe i choose the wrong person to love..
((am i too dramatic lol))
fans should realize that they r not your friend, and u r basically a stranger
Really?? Then then don't take money 🤑 from strangers which obviously spend by strangers on these K-pop idols jst for phone call ur comment itself proves how dumb can be someone jst to protect their favourites 🖕
But when she flops and no one cares about her content anymore because she was rude then what. Thye same way she doesn't have to act like she cares about her fans, fans should be able to not give her any more then
Strangers who are being paid tons of money just to communicate with them !!
and fans like u have to accept that sometimes the idol is wrong
@@reremcmillanthey can leave if they don't like her content honestly the audacity and egos fans have that they're trying to hold over idols heads is worse than the ones they're trying to blame idols of having. just cause you have money to spend doesn't mean you can treat people like circus animals.
A few weeks ago a fan talked about how tired sullyoon once looked
About to collapse they even said..
But yet she still paid attention and to fan and listen
So if Jini can't listen to a fan that spent money to talk to her and fix appearance instead
What about sullyoon? She should be resting by then but decided to pay attention to a fan..
Seriously Jini its doesn't kill to listen to someone sometimes
I mean if you go into these fancalls to trauma dump/tell personal stories and treat idols as therapists or your close friends then you’re a weirdo and should spend your money on something more productive HOWEVER if it was a civil & normal interaction between a fan and a kpop idol then that idol should at least pretend to care and listen. I’ve seen really wholesome fancalls where fans made cakes for birthdays or shared their playlists with idols or complimented them and showed support. those fancalls deserve all the attention.
exactly lol.. idk why ppl pay them alot of money for this just for a 1 minute call 💀
small clips edited to make it look like she’s not paying attention 😭 she’s literally talking and interacting with the fans in the video
Fr THEY BEEN DRAMATIZING A CLIP OF HER JUST TOUCHING HER HAIR... 💀
right, even nayeon from twice points this out that haters do this. always show such a short clip when they are adjusting and slow down to make them look bad and intentional
FRR
I thought I was crazy. Scrolled so hard to find a normal comment like this. I watched the clips and saw nothing except Jinni being awkward, fidgety and speaking limited English. As a non-native speaker myself, I get awkward when I get put in a spot where I need to speak and listen to English speakers, especially native speakers. I’m also not fun to talk to because I’m shy and hold myself back a lot.
people saying "they payed so much money and she looks so bored" girl thats on you! dont waste money on kpop idols dont own you anything
I completely forgot about her existence
idk it looks fine. she does look out of it. She clrearly doesn't care that much but its not like she doesn't care at all.
I think the headphones were what she was using for the fan call, and she was just fixing her hair. I don't see what the problem is.
I just keep scrolling through the comments and it's so strange to see so many people making up bullshit reasons for her departure from NMIXX based off of this 2-minute video. If I HAD to make a (tenuous at best) inference, the mere fact she's still in this industry at all speaks to her innocence in my opinion. We know how this industry tends to treat idols who are even so much as ACCUSED of doing something. If it was Jini's fault, maybe JYP didn't want to expose her like that... WE DON'T KNOW. What I do know is that if it was anything like these comments are assuming, he would have likely silently blacklisted her from the industry and left it at that.
She was my bias,☹️☹️☹️this is sad