Do you think these "mid-power" eMTBs that are lighter weigh than full fat eMTBs but more powerful than super lights like the Specialized Leo SL are the future of eMTB? I think so but let me know your thoughts below. Also ask me any questions you may have.
I think you'd find that the power of the SL bikes would be plenty for you. I'm a strong rider, like you, and I ride my Levo SL in Eco mode most of the time. It provides just enough help to take the edge off of a climb but still makes me do most of the work, which I like. Downhill, it feels like my acoustic bike. The mid-power bikes ride very planted but feel and ride "heavy" compared to acoustic. Looking forward to your view once you get it dialed to your liking.
@@puckcoach3 I agree that full fat eMTB seem too powerful and I just don't need it but I also have a Turbo Creo SL Expert EVO that is also 35NM with the 320Wh battery. It was riding that and then comparing against the Trek Rail 7, I decided something in-between was the sweet spot. I don't see I would ever need more than 60NM and would probably spend most of my time in Eco with uphill pushes into 47NM when needed. the 60NM would be saved for those BIG STEEP climbs. It'll probably be the weekend before I get to ride it though. Need to finish setting it up first..
I’ll throw in my opinion of being a relatively new MTBer with a Rise H15. I’m not even in that great shape…I can’t imagine needing more than this. I’ve taken it up some pretty crazy hills on turbo. Mind you I was totally gassed and my heart rate was about 165, but I could still do it. So I wouldn’t need any more than this…it’s the perfect blend of power with still getting a good workout.
I dig the idea of various power/weight emtb platforms, but have found that it really depends on who you ride with and where. If you’re on a mid-low power bike and all your buddies have full power machines with big batteries then it’s a hard day in the saddle for you. Conversely if you’re riding solo or with analog riders mostly, these rigs make a ton of sense. My journey started on a lighter weight Focus Jam2. The smaller 370wh battery and extender ended up being the best part about the bike. Following to see how you end up liking the Orbea - they are doing great things
I mostly ride solo or with others on regular bike. Not many eMTBs in my neck of the woods yet. When I was in Bentonville I really enjoyed the Trek Rail and thought that might be my next bike but also thought that I never needed full power and it eat up the battery a bit quicker than I would have liked. It was also super heavy. But fun. I think the Rise will suit me well. I still want the feel of a more normal bike without the low end surge I got with the Trek. For me it’s more about boosting my endurance and helping me get uphill quicker. I like that you can have two Profiles to change the character of the bike. It’s going to be fun to play with it!
I’m 5 foot 11. I need to do a follow up video on the bike, but it might be hard to do a fair review because I’ve changed a lot on it. I’ve change the brakes (Codes/H2) the shifting (GX AXS, with Shimano cassette) and the wheel set (Reserve SL 30 carbon). The bike absolutely rips but it’s not perfect. Got some creaks I need to chase down…
Good overview , but seeing you handle the front wheel , and touching you disc with your hands is not good , I hope you cleaned your rotor and pads or you have probably contaminated both, even before y our first ride :(
It is common practice to weigh without pedals. For one the bike does not come with pedals and second, pedals are personal choice item. For instance I use Time MX8 pedals.
@@Roaming50 No worries. Seems kinda strange to me since you can't ride it without pedals. Most people change out the seats and the grips but include them when weighing the bike. Also, there's not too much difference in various pedal weights so why not include them ? I will add that 46+ lbs is pretty beefy, especially without pedals. I have a Levo SL that's just over 40 lbs, with pedals, that replaced a SC Heckler that weighed 46+, with pedals. My Levo SL feels and rides much lighter than the Heckler. Just getting the Heckler in/out of the car was a chore. I'll be curious to see how you feel when you get your Rise on the trail. Cheers !
@@radicalturkey I got the Chinese knock off hubs and a TourneyTX rotor. I converted my wheels last night. The OE wheels weighed 2,042g and the Reserves 1,695g. With the tubeless swap as well I lost 411g or 0.9 lb. Not too bad but not as good I as thought it would be.
Do you think these "mid-power" eMTBs that are lighter weigh than full fat eMTBs but more powerful than super lights like the Specialized Leo SL are the future of eMTB? I think so but let me know your thoughts below. Also ask me any questions you may have.
I think you'd find that the power of the SL bikes would be plenty for you. I'm a strong rider, like you, and I ride my Levo SL in Eco mode most of the time. It provides just enough help to take the edge off of a climb but still makes me do most of the work, which I like. Downhill, it feels like my acoustic bike. The mid-power bikes ride very planted but feel and ride "heavy" compared to acoustic. Looking forward to your view once you get it dialed to your liking.
@@puckcoach3 I agree that full fat eMTB seem too powerful and I just don't need it but I also have a Turbo Creo SL Expert EVO that is also 35NM with the 320Wh battery. It was riding that and then comparing against the Trek Rail 7, I decided something in-between was the sweet spot. I don't see I would ever need more than 60NM and would probably spend most of my time in Eco with uphill pushes into 47NM when needed. the 60NM would be saved for those BIG STEEP climbs. It'll probably be the weekend before I get to ride it though. Need to finish setting it up first..
I’ll throw in my opinion of being a relatively new MTBer with a Rise H15. I’m not even in that great shape…I can’t imagine needing more than this. I’ve taken it up some pretty crazy hills on turbo. Mind you I was totally gassed and my heart rate was about 165, but I could still do it. So I wouldn’t need any more than this…it’s the perfect blend of power with still getting a good workout.
@@briansmith1544 I find running it between 33 and 47NM the sweet spot. Rarely have I used full boost but then I don’t have big hills.
I dig the idea of various power/weight emtb platforms, but have found that it really depends on who you ride with and where.
If you’re on a mid-low power bike and all your buddies have full power machines with big batteries then it’s a hard day in the saddle for you.
Conversely if you’re riding solo or with analog riders mostly, these rigs make a ton of sense.
My journey started on a lighter weight Focus Jam2. The smaller 370wh battery and extender ended up being the best part about the bike.
Following to see how you end up liking the Orbea - they are doing great things
I mostly ride solo or with others on regular bike. Not many eMTBs in my neck of the woods yet.
When I was in Bentonville I really enjoyed the Trek Rail and thought that might be my next bike but also thought that I never needed full power and it eat up the battery a bit quicker than I would have liked. It was also super heavy. But fun.
I think the Rise will suit me well. I still want the feel of a more normal bike without the low end surge I got with the Trek. For me it’s more about boosting my endurance and helping me get uphill quicker. I like that you can have two Profiles to change the character of the bike. It’s going to be fun to play with it!
What size did you get?
It's a large.
Great thanks, how tall are you and how is the bike? Enjoying it?
I’m 5 foot 11. I need to do a follow up video on the bike, but it might be hard to do a fair review because I’ve changed a lot on it. I’ve change the brakes (Codes/H2) the shifting (GX AXS, with Shimano cassette) and the wheel set (Reserve SL 30 carbon). The bike absolutely rips but it’s not perfect. Got some creaks I need to chase down…
Good overview , but seeing you handle the front wheel , and touching you disc with your hands is not good , I hope you cleaned your rotor and pads or you have probably contaminated both, even before y our first ride :(
Sweet bike ! Why weigh it without pedals ? Please update weight with pedals on -- thanks !
It is common practice to weigh without pedals. For one the bike does not come with pedals and second, pedals are personal choice item. For instance I use Time MX8 pedals.
@@Roaming50 No worries. Seems kinda strange to me since you can't ride it without pedals. Most people change out the seats and the grips but include them when weighing the bike. Also, there's not too much difference in various pedal weights so why not include them ?
I will add that 46+ lbs is pretty beefy, especially without pedals. I have a Levo SL that's just over 40 lbs, with pedals, that replaced a SC Heckler that weighed 46+, with pedals. My Levo SL feels and rides much lighter than the Heckler. Just getting the Heckler in/out of the car was a chore. I'll be curious to see how you feel when you get your Rise on the trail. Cheers !
@@puckcoach3 This is the cheaper hydro version that is aluminum over the carbon "M" series. The top end M can get to
@@radicalturkey I got the Chinese knock off hubs and a TourneyTX rotor. I converted my wheels last night. The OE wheels weighed 2,042g and the Reserves 1,695g. With the tubeless swap as well I lost 411g or 0.9 lb. Not too bad but not as good I as thought it would be.
More of the product...less of you.