Thanks for another great video TFT! I’ve been using the 271qrx and loving it coming from IPS1080p. One thing Ive found is sometimes the monitor doesn’t recognize when HDR is on or off in Ps5 or windows. Other than it’s been great.
Currently have the 34CQPX and absolutely love it. First OLED monitor that I am using for both gaming and (silly enough) productivity. Such an absolute purchase.
how is the text looking? any noticeable fringing? im between the 27" MPG 271QRX and the 34" wide 341CQPX. ive seen videos on the text on the 27" and it looks great. but it uses the gen 3 panel, so im worried how it looks on the gen 1. do u even notice it sitting 2-3 feet away from the screen?
Thank you for the update. Good to see that you are doing new tests after firmware updates and that MSI was able to improve a lot of things. Did you hear back from MSI regarding this in the last 3 months regarding improvements for P1000 mode?
@@tftcentral Great to see MSI still trying to improve stuff and they already shipped a lot of improvements through firmware updates. I do not regret the decision to go with the 271QRX instead of the AW2725DF early this year when they released.
I was hoping you'd clarify point number 3 "Fixed Panel Protect abnormal behavior while the "Power Button" option is set to standby." for the 321URX. On my first unit I remember never seeing the Panel Protect window as I wasn't using my monitor more than 4hrs daily. On my second unit which I instantly updated to FW11, when Panel Protect set to Auto, the screen wouldn't do a Pixel Refresh on standby. It would only do Pixel Refresh if the monitor was on, except if I would have clicked "Later" when the window would appear. But now when I've selected "16hr", the screen will do Pixel Refresh after 4hrs of consecutive use after the monitor is in Stand-by mode (more or less like an LG TV). I would personally have hoped that the monitor does a Pixel Refresh every time the monitor goes into Standby, regardless of how long it's been turned on.
Will the inproved input lag positively impact games that lock your frame-rate at 60fps? I'm thinking about Fighting Games like Tekken 8 for example - where your refresh rate in Windows is still 360hz (271QRX) but the game is capped at 60fps to maintain and preserve frame data in a competitive environment. Thanks and yet another great video.
The even lower 360Hz lag would apply in that situation anyway, so you're all good. If you set windows refresh rate to 60Hz to align with the game, then the new 60Hz lag number would apply
Just stay at 360Hz while playing your game at 60fps. And no the input lag improvement is not that massive, it just might help in clutch situations. Human lag is still the biggest lag that you could improve more than your OLED monitor ever could.
Great video, however I feel you missed an important metric in the input latency test for the MSI MAG 271QPX and 32 inch version. Specifically the input latency at 120Hz (Specifically over HDMi) This is important as we would like to know the difference between 240Hz PC and Console 120Hz input latency (as MANY there many games that do run at 120FPS on Xbox S/X and PlayStation 5)
My biggest issue with the 32 4k 240hz. I need to make sure to set DSC to off before I turn it off, because my PC for some reason when it restarts doesn't see it as active. And turning it off and on can cause issues when it's switching. Other then that, this monitor is the best one Ive ever used before and Im quite happy I purchased it. What's kinda crazy is the non firmware one was only like $50 cheaper when I was buying this in Canada, so it made the non firmware one look like such a bad deal considering all the updates MSI has already put into these things LOL
Thank you for testing this! It would be a shame if MSI isn't able to improve the Peak 1000 mode, as other brands seem to have found solutions. For HDR gaming, is it still best to go with P1000?
Thanks TFTCentral! Between 321urx and aw3225qf, which is more color accurate in hdr and sdr? Which has better gamma tracking? I keep hearing MSI oversaturated hdr and is too dark gamma in sdr? When I do lagom black level test for MSI, the squares 1-6 I can’t see in sdr but in hdr it looks washed out? On aw3225qf I can’t see square 1 but rest I can see in both hdr and sdr
probably best to have a read through the review of the AW3225QF and the video of the MPG 321URX to pick out the parts that are relevant., although if you've got both then i guess you can decide which you prefer anyway?
I know in ur review for the MSI there’s a delta of 4-5 in hdr but in other reviews like monitors unboxed I see delta e of 7-15. Idk which to trust. I also seen that aw targets srgb gamma whereas MSI targets 2.2?
With this update, could you also conform if known as it wasnt disclosed in your article if the MPG 491CQPX QD-OLED monitor is available in the UK? Distributors are suggesting it's specific to the Asian markets. Thanks and regards, Jonathan
Have there been no significant FW updates from Gigabyte or Alienware for their QDs? Could you look at the TCL 27R83U, it's a 27" 4k 160hz HVA FALD with 1000+ dimming zones and very impressive HDR luminance.
I had this monitor. It is good, the blooming is minimal. Brightness is super but the monitor get so hot. Hot on touch actually. And monitor got stucked many times, especially when i was switching from a tv to the display. The screen was not responsive. The osd was slow also. I saw a shadow near cursor with every overdrive settings for response time. Also, no firmware updates. This is TCL 27r83u
Thanks for this. Also can you guys give the input lag on the new update when the new update comes. Sometimes companies fix one thing and ruin another. Input lag for the msi271qrx
Will you be providing any updates/support for the other current MSI MAG monitors, such as the MAG 271QPX E2? It’d be great to know if that monitor will be receiving the HDR updates/fixes that they’re working on as well. Side note: As someone that’s new to these higher end monitors; how long do these manufacturers typically continue to support their monitors with updates? A couple years or more? Or do they move on when their new monitors are released?
Hey, great video. I was wondering whether you tested the input lag on DP or HDMI with DSC enabled. Or did you do both. Did you find a big latency with hdmi?
Just got my 271QPX monitor but didn’t realise I had to update firmware. It won’t support 1440p on my PS5 and I don’t have anyway of downloading the firmware as my work laptop restricts downloads. What a pain for not doing my due diligence.
Hey 👋 question ❓ im thinking about getting the msi 321urx monitor since its on Sale at best buy. But i don't understand this eco system. I'm come from smartphone and tablet background I never owned a tv or monitor because it was to expensive or to big. 32 inch 4k qdoled seens like the sweet spot for my small room. Now correct me if I'm wrong this monitor isn't smart? Or have wireless capabilities? Right no tv turner either right? It's ok I was gonna use it with a chromecast gifted to me and does this support video and audio over usbC? I was gonna use my s24 ultra with it. Now this monitor doesn't have any speakers built in? Can I use any headphones with it? And one more thing how do you update it? I do have a older hp windows laptop from 2019 it has no usbC ports no hdmi ports just Ethernet port 2 usb ports a port of printer and a port for memory card. So if I get this monitor how will I update it?
Correct there’s no smart TV functions on this model, it’s just a raw display. If you especially wanted those then the similar Samsung Odyssey G80SD has them (review on our main site) On this MSI there’s no wireless, speakers, TV tuner either. You can send video over USB-C but not audio, and since there’s no speakers you’d prob be best just connecting a soundbar or whatever to the source device for the sound anyway. You could send sounds via HDMI from the device to the monitor and then use the headphone connection on the monitor to listen to the audio if you wanted To firmware updates you need to be able to connect screen to laptop via normal USB, and then video signal preferably via displayport but I expect HDMI would work too.
@tftcentral ok yeah see that was the part I was confused by. Because I do have a usbC to USB wire and a duo USB to USB wire. since I watched the video u mentioned it has usb ports and USBC port. So I was thinking I could use my USB to USB C or duo USB to USB wire to update it.
@JohnBoyed-fo6fm you’d need to use the regular USB A port on your laptop, then to the USB B port on the monitor with the cable in the box. Nice and easy
There is a fw.012, but that doesn't seem to change eotf. Please keep an eye on it, I'd prefer to use 1000 if the eotf curve is fixed, not that 400 doesn't look great already. Thank you.
@@tftcentral Glad to hear the EOTF update is still coming! Unrelated question: Do you know if it's possible to rollback/downgrade to an older firmware on the 321URX? I'm still on FW.010 and worried about updating because I've seen several reports of users having issues on newer versions. I would be less hesitant to update if I knew I could rollback to previous firmware if I have issues after an update.
@@tftcentral Thank you for keeping up with the firmware updates. Additionally, please ask MSI to allow the factory calibrated colour gamut clamp modes in HDR. Currently on FW.012 those 3 modes under "Pro" modes aren't available, and the User mode seems to be native panel gamut. I'd like to use the calibrated P3 mode in HDR. I've taken some HDR video clips from an iphone 14pm and a s20 fe, and playing those clips on my 321URX in HDR in User mode the reds look significantly more saturated compared to on the phones the clips came from. These flapship phones' displays are supposed to have be quite well calibrated in HDR mode. I could dodge the issue above in FW.09 by setting both SDR and HDR to P3 mode when I am in HDR. It has stopped me from using HDR on the display. Would be nice if I can use sRGB for SDR and P3 for HDR. It is quite frustrating because I know that calibrated P3 mode is right there and solves all my issues, but it is greyed out. Would be nice for a Mac too, Mac OS allows configuring the OS wide default colour gamut, in SDR I can set it to P3 and clamp the 321URX to P3 and things would just be tonemapped and look right no matter if they're tagged as P3 or sRGB, in HDR since I can't clamp the display to any of the calibrated colour clamp mode everything looks wrong at all times, the default automatically generated display specific profile is noticeably incorrect with the reds again. Would be nice if I can use the calibrated P3 mode in HDR mode for this use case too.
Following up to above, if msi cant allow using colour clamped modes in hdr due to technical limitations, just letting us copy the reference modes to User mode works too.
msi271qpx qd oled e2 owner. im on FW.019 Firmware, i didnt get a USBA TO USBB cable , on their website i can only see 2 Firmware SOP an Scaler - Firmware. how do i go about this THANK YOU
The latest firmware for the MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2 appears to be firmware FW.022. This monitor does not have USBB ports which is why the USBB cable is not included. You will need to connect this monitor to PC via Displayport and update the monitor that way.
Yes it should be, they released the same firmware update for that MAG model too with same changelog. The update process is a bit different though, follow their guide on their support page
I have that one too bro i use it for my ps5 and while it does look good as it should its definitely too dark in HDR .. version 009 , i was told by an msi tech i could update it with the utility from there site , they have now removed that utility download although i still actually have the file i dont currently have a pc to try and update it
@@jonnozI have .009, as of yesterday they deleted the utility… but they never posted the actual FW file…. Do you have the Utility to send me? I’d like to test out a way to update.. I have Mac as my main, but a tiny windows box for FW updates.. let me know would appreciate it 🙏🏽
@@AJCoReTV i think my reply just got automatically deleted guessing im not allowed to post a link on here ? I have a download link from msi that still works do u have reddit bro ? I just replied to someone on there with the same issue as us
Question. I own the 271QRX. I play on Xbox series X. In console mode it allows the monitor to receive a 4K signal that is downsampled to 1440p which k think it does extremely well. It’s very sharp, I’ve previously owned a 1440p monitor and this is crisp. The question is do you think playing on this setting do you think it would have more input lag on the downsampled 4k signal than playing at native 1440p setting?
That’s not something we tested. I doubt it though as we’ve never found different resolutions to have any major or meaningful (if any at all) impact on lag. I’d expect it to be the same
cant wait for the fix of the hdr 1000 on the 321 urx.. should I use 400 in the meantime? Is 1000 still the best option if i'm able to rise the hdr brightness in game?
Check what’s listed in the bottom right hand corner of the menu and then update from there if it’s older. I suspect it will be on an old version and need an upgrade
Hey TFT, would you recommend I use the MPG 321URX ICC profile on my MAG 321UPX model? I know the only difference is the features of both monitors but I had to ask.
I’d expect the factory calibrations to be very similar and so there’s a good chance the OSD settings and profile could help. I’d say it’s worth trying 👍
I have the MAG 271QPX and I can't see the option to download the gaming intelligence utility on the product page? The firmware updates are listed but not the utility
am i just seeing things?or do i see a purple tint on the monitor?i thought purple only happens on blacks and dont affect the overall picture in lit rooms.
Picked up my MPG321URX 2 weeks ago. Came to you guys to grab your optimised settings - th-cam.com/video/wiFuqjXqWxw/w-d-xo.html 2 things of note 1 - MSI need to implement a toggle in the gaming intelligence settings so it doesn't autoload with windows (after you're set up the need to change things is greatly reduced) 2 - if the panel protect pop up irks you like it did me (I died during a ranked game) change the panel protect from auto to 16hrs. This will avoid the pop but, when you shut your pc down once it's been asleep for 10 minutes if the monitor needed to do panel care (ie, it's been on for more than 4 hours since last care regardless of the auto/16hr setting) it will turn it self on, do the care sweep, then go back to sleep. This is ideal as it's non intrusive unless you game for 16hrs in a hit in which case there is something else you need to worry about.
Can you comment on such a problem - in the second day of using the monitor I spent a day using HDMI(laptop), after which switched to my home pc DP (2080Ti, 240Hz, 4K) and started to notice white blocks flashing on any screen. Flashed the FW to 11. After several attempts at addressing the problem I switched the DP to another port in the GPU and the problem seems to have resolved itself (I hope). I wrote this on MSI's forum and got a reply from another person with the same problem and somehow similar resolution.
@@tftcentral it seems like a cable problem, but I had the first day smooth run. I'm still trying to recall maybe I tried hiding the cables or something. But when it started to happen I checked the cable connection a few times (didn't reconnect it, just pushed it to the socket from the monitor side to see maybe it came off a bit... but I didn't try that on the PC side). And the person who responded to my comment, did a bunch of things, last of which was related to reseating the cable. Also, if to google the 321URX with the white blocks/lines... there seem to be quite a few of matches.
@@tftcentral as long as "it's the cable!" I am quite OK. I used the ones that came with the monitor (both DP and HDMI). My first fear was "oh shint, it's a faulty circuitry!". I haven't worked with DP (this monitor is a replacement of a VA monitor, I bought back in 2014... eye/headache issues), so maybe this is just that (although from the fact that DP locks to a port, I would assumed it to be better in terms of reliability).
Does it matter DP vs HDMI 2.1? For a GPU supporting both? I mean in terms of input lag and processing times as well as VRR performance. I have a 4090 and MSI 32 inch 4k 240hz OLED monitor
had the 011 firmware on my MPG 271QRX for a couple of days and had to downgrade to 010 again, because the 011 version was causing BSODs. after every pixel refresh cycle my graphics driver (RTX 4090, Windows 10) kept crashing repeatedly until a BSOD occured. no issues whatsoever with the 010 firmware.
Great update, I want this monitor for Dual Use Photo Editing and Gaming. I need to know how I can white balance this monitor and test / calibrate for Adobe RGB color space. MSI claims 97% Adobe RGR color space and has a control in the Pro Section to set it. MSI Tech Support in US doesn’t seem to know anything about this and doesn’t seem to have any documentation on factory calibration or how to calibrate the unit. I suspect the 321URX 32” has hardware based calibration but it could be locked. I have Pro level calibrator. They sent me the Manual but there was no documentation on calibrating for any color space etc.. Also can you download ICC Color Profile Software for this specific monitor?
I replied to your other comment about this so have a look there too. This screen does not support hardware level calibration, you will only be able to software profile the screen with your device
Do not install FW 025 on MAG 341CQP - color banding is awful on this firmware. Stay on/upgrade to FW 017. The good thing is that FW can be rolled back from 025 to 017.
@tftcentral I am not the only one with this problem. At least two other reddit users also had to roll back the firmware update. Googling "Gradient bending MSI 341CQP" will take you to reddit post. Link in the comments will take you to my comparison photo of 017 vs 025
I used to use the pro mode user like you suggested back in your original Cqp settings suggestions with the custom color temp. but after i just updated my firmware all my setting got reset so when i was changing it back to what i had i noticed a big difference in the colors on the same mode. I cant pin point exactly what it is but it seems more bright and the colors look a bit washed out imo. not sure what happend. not sure what settings to use now.
Recently got the 27in. For firmware update it says to connect via display port. I assume that using a USB C to DP adapter when connecting to my laptop should be fine ?
Hi! A quick question, I saw in the nvidia cpanel the option to use nvidia color settings with 32 bits and 10 bpc. Should I enable this or leave it as default on "use default colors"?
Currently experiencing a issue with my 341CQP if anyone knows a solution or can guide me on what to do. The issue is with the KVM, when I connect both my mouse and keyboard into the USB ports in the display when the display goes to sleep I am not able to wake it back up, its like the USB ports also go into sleep. The USB upstream is also connected. Any suggestions would be appreciated
@@hassanpiracha1961 yeah that works but unfortunately it’s rather tedious to do since when my peripherals are connected to my pc I can just press anything and the screen wakes back up
Please refer manual on page 16 and modify "Auto Scan" to OFF. 2.Please refer manual on page 19 and modify "Power Button" to Standby. This is the official fix. I have the same issue I will try it too
@@hassanpiracha1961 hey, I tried this out and indeed it works as I was hoping now the mouse and keyboard wake up the screen from standby. Thank you so much
I'm not sure of the technical challenges, but a lot of the time the screens are just not optimised for non-native refresh rates, and it's given very little focus. you can see from these FW updates what is possible when manufacturer do spend time trying to improve things though, so it must be possible to improve - to a point. These high refresh rate screens aren't really designed for low refresh rate devices a lot of the time either
I have the MAG 321UPX QD-OLED and need to update the firmware. The MSI gaming intelligence download only has an option for windows 11 and I'm still using 10 and don't want to switch. Is there a windows 10 version? Thanks
not sure tbh as i'd expect the signal to be sent over the USB connection, unless it causes crashes and video signal issues while it's updating or when it's finished. The MSI guidance says you need to use DP so for safety I'd stick with that
i have samsung G6 oled 360hz, i asked samsung when they will upgrade firmware to decrease input lag and reduce response times on lowered refresh rate... no answer... What to do ?
I have the msi MAG27QPX oled you say connect the cable usba to usbb what cable it’s that my monitor only brings 4 connections 2 HDMI 1 dp and 1 usbc so what cable do I need to update mine cause this lag when I play on xbox it’s really strong I don’t like it
This video and the Fw updates discussed only apply to the MPG model. MSI have released Fw updates for the MAG model too but there’s a different process and software for those as, like you say, there’s no USB ports and they don’t support the Gaming Intelligence software either You can find instructions and the updating process on the relevant MSI product page along with the FW files you need
MSI MAG 271QPX QD OLED E2 .... can you explain to me how to do it because I've tried everthing and nothing has worked, I currently have FM version .019 recived yesterday from Amazon and the most recent FM on the website is FW.022 I've tried the "FM Update Utility" couldn't get it to work, I've tried the "Display Kit" and both FM options, including the FM itself. Is the FM.019 enough or should I be worried about updating it further, this seems unreasonably difficult lol
@tftcentral I think I found something that would let me update it I bought this cord with a USB and display port off connected to each other off Amazon
So when in playing call of duty now at 240 fps i should set my hz on 240 and not on 360 to get less input lag? Or can i keep 360hz and cap the game at 220fps?
MSI Intelligence Software is not available anymore i guess, cant download a new firmware just released a few days ago for the life of me. MSI Firmware update utility keeps failing.
Would be nice if you could bug Asus to fix the EOTF issues with the HDR brightness 100 on the XG27AQDMG. It looks horrible in HDR movies and series. highlight posterization and dark scenes become pitch black.
I have the MS321URX. Updated to the latest firmware FW11: Issues I have are: 1: turning off DSC- when trying to activate HDR. It doesn’t work. The problem is still there at least in my panel. Also, turning off DSC makes the colors really weird at 120hz refresh rate. When I switch the refresh rate to 60hz, they look better but still weird. 2. My panel still shows adaptive sync and not the free sync premium pro. Can anyone provide a fix or Solution to this?
@@tftcentral it worked. I had to download the INf driver file from 321urx driver page, then I had to go to device manager>monitors>update driver. Now it shows the certification.
Ah thanks for a reply. I just checked msi twitter and on their post on 17/08/24 it says their 60hz is now 14.5ms?? How come it’s so much higher than yours.could you check because I would buy it now if it’s that low
That post is based on results from rtings.com, but their figures never seem to make sense. As far as I can tell, their lag figure includes half a frame but I no idea why. Very odd and it always causes confusion as their figures never align with anyone else as a result. The results from their review of the MPG321URX are actually 2.8ms at 240Hz, 5.1ms at 120Hz and 13.5ms at 60Hz and so at 60Hz that’s 8.33ms, plus the actual signal processing lag and delay of the monitor which would therefore be 5.17ms, which is very close then to our figure. At 240Hz that would be 2.08ms from the half of a single frame leaving 0.72ms of actual lag, again very close
@@tftcentral Or that ridiculously sized bloatware package has too many do nothing loops in it to get anything done in reasonable time... I mean installation package of whole Windows XP operating system was of that size.
Wow this is funny. asus support said that on pg32ucdm a 19ms input lag on 60hz is "normal" - wonder WHat will they tell now when on msi you will get 4-5ms with 60hz refresh rate. asus...
And Asus be charging a hecken premium too. I have the MSI MAG 321UPX which is the cheaper version of the 321URX and just updated to FW.019 which also included input lag. Definitely gonna buy another MSI monitor in the future, possibly Gigabyte too!
ASUS OLEDS HAVE HORRIBLE latency. Jumped from a XB273U NX 275 hz 1440p GSYNC module to OLED 1440 240 hz XG27AQDMG and the click latency and screen latency is horrible. It’s for sure the monitor. Or the cheap scaler they use. I wonder if the PG OLED 240 hz has a better controller. People laughed at gsync modules, but they are just superior!
@@Multimeter1 BIG LETTERS. all of the qd-oleds gen.3 tech panels comes from smas-u-ng - all vendors do have exactly the same latency with 240hz. as fot g-sync module - it is actually removing vrr-flicker (somewhat) from qd-oled aw3423dw (go reat t-rings review). ips with dedicated g-sunc are great - but ips glow, no hdr abd back light back light b-le-ed is a BIG problem.
@@Multimeter1 better latency with this module only for ips-va tech - that is true. for oled this module is useless - exept making vrr flickering less agressive.
Hello all! Proud first time OLED user here! I do not have a PC capable of updating the firmware on this monitor. Has the latest patch improved the black crush at all? The entire top row of boxes on lagom's test is completely crushed. I am very surprised there is no mention of Black Crush anywhere in RTINGs review. Very disappointed since the last update was back in May so I was hoping that it would at least come with the latest firmware since I just bought it yesterday from Bestbuy. Came with firmware 0.09 out of the box. How do I know which RGB range the HDMI from the monitor is outputting and how do I change it? Limited (16-235) or Full RGB (0-255) ? Since it's a monitor I am assuing it's 0-255 but I do not see any options in the monitor and my Xbox is set to "standard" RGB so I want to make sure they match. What setting should I use for HDR calibration in the Xbox HDR cailbration menu? RTINGS has this monitor rated for 1000 nits at 2% Peak and 467 nits at 10% Peak. Should I calibrate it for 1000 nits? I am trying to play Hogwarts Legacy and everything seems very dark! My 10+ year old Samsung VA monitor was much brighter! Why are the 50hz and 24hz video modes not available / supported with this monitor in the Xbox settings? Not a big deal but still curious. Where is the best place to get general help and info about this specific monitor? Is there a specific reddit thread , forum or discord available?
which model do you have? You won't be able to update firmware without a PC or laptop i'm afraid to connect it to and install the software. The HDMI connection should auto-detect the input RGB range and set accordingly, but the default would almost certainly be full range 0 - 255. HDR mode brightness is an ongoing issue in the Peak 1000 mode, check out the article linked in the description for info and background. You may find the HDR 400 True Black mode brighter right now. just follow the steps in the Xbox calibration app for configuring brightness on the console, once you've selected whichever mode you want on the monitor.
@@tftcentral Apologies and thank you kindly for the response! I just recently purchased the MPG 271QRX. I will try HDR 400 True Black mode as you suggest. Can you say how many nits I should set in the Xbox HDR calibration menu with this monitor? If you press LB-RB-RT-LT buttons at the same time in the HDR calibration menu, you can see the exact values in Xbox. I have Peak Luminance set to 1000 nits and blacks set to 0. Can I leave it at 1000 nits or do those values need to be changed? Is there a reason why I cannot select 50hz and 24 hz video modes with this monitor? Isn't that weird?
@drakewilliams6069 the visual guidance on the screen with the white boxes is more important than reported numbers, I would suggest following that. If you end up using the TB400 mode instead it will end up being around 450 nits peak
@@tftcentral Alright I did as you suggested and set the monitor to TB400 and HDR looks clear, vivid, vibrant and BEAUTIFUL now in HDR! In the Xbox HDR calibration menu, the image was still visible at 400 nits and disappeared at 450 nits so I left it at 450 nits max luminance. Thank you so much for your help good sir! I still have black crush according to lagom's black level test in SDR but will still need to test how much of an issue that is if at all. I also turned on the refresh rate OSD on the monitor but it only displays the refresh rate I am connected with on the Xbox and not the actual framerate of the game I am currently playing so seems kind of useless. I also turned off all of the OLED care settings in the monitor just in case they were interfering with the image. I just set the Xbox to auto dim after 2 minutes when idle.
@drakewilliams6069 the frame rate counter would only change dynamically if you also have VRR enabled and active on the monitor and Xbox. It should work then. I’d suggest leaving some of the oled care features on to help with image retention mitigation. I don’t think you’d spot any adverse effects in gaming like that
Can u do test on the 321 UPX with firmware 0.19, would like to know if that has better 60hz latency, the patch notes say it's improved but be good if u can test
@ichampagnez2204 I’d expect the results for the MAG 321UPX to be the same as it’s largely the same screen just with a few feature differences. Same panel, scaler and tuning though so should be the same
Thank you for explaining how to install the firmware updates!
Thanks! I bought MPG 321URX last week, I'm updating the firmware now!
Thanks for another great video TFT! I’ve been using the 271qrx and loving it coming from IPS1080p. One thing Ive found is sometimes the monitor doesn’t recognize when HDR is on or off in Ps5 or windows. Other than it’s been great.
Strange, I haven't noticed that at all myself during all our testing. Does it do that over HDMI only, or DP too?
Just received my new MPG 271QRX QD-OLED and I’m updating the firmware now
Love some actual testing of brightness to see if anything has changed in sdr or hdr on 32 model
they've not made any changes to that yet, but are working on HDR Peak 1000 mode EOTF and brightness
VERY GOOD video, thanks so much for your time and effort providing this awesome content.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very helpfull info, thanks.
Currently have the 34CQPX and absolutely love it. First OLED monitor that I am using for both gaming and (silly enough) productivity. Such an absolute purchase.
how is the text looking? any noticeable fringing? im between the 27" MPG 271QRX and the 34" wide 341CQPX. ive seen videos on the text on the 27" and it looks great. but it uses the gen 3 panel, so im worried how it looks on the gen 1. do u even notice it sitting 2-3 feet away from the screen?
hey, do you have like a 7sec delay when minmizing out of games? i got mine and its doing that
That’s an NVIDIA bug with DSC usage, not specific to this screen I’m afraid
@@tftcentral ohh okidoki good to know, thanks
@@crazysuiciduse hdmi 2.1 to avoid
Thank you for the update. Good to see that you are doing new tests after firmware updates and that MSI was able to improve a lot of things. Did you hear back from MSI regarding this in the last 3 months regarding improvements for P1000 mode?
Yes and we hope to have some news on that in the near future 🙂
@@tftcentral Great to see MSI still trying to improve stuff and they already shipped a lot of improvements through firmware updates. I do not regret the decision to go with the 271QRX instead of the AW2725DF early this year when they released.
@jumperdynamix8808 yeah they really are focusing a lot on improvements which is great to see
I was hoping you'd clarify point number 3 "Fixed Panel Protect abnormal behavior while the "Power Button" option is set to standby." for the 321URX. On my first unit I remember never seeing the Panel Protect window as I wasn't using my monitor more than 4hrs daily. On my second unit which I instantly updated to FW11, when Panel Protect set to Auto, the screen wouldn't do a Pixel Refresh on standby. It would only do Pixel Refresh if the monitor was on, except if I would have clicked "Later" when the window would appear. But now when I've selected "16hr", the screen will do Pixel Refresh after 4hrs of consecutive use after the monitor is in Stand-by mode (more or less like an LG TV). I would personally have hoped that the monitor does a Pixel Refresh every time the monitor goes into Standby, regardless of how long it's been turned on.
Will the inproved input lag positively impact games that lock your frame-rate at 60fps? I'm thinking about Fighting Games like Tekken 8 for example - where your refresh rate in Windows is still 360hz (271QRX) but the game is capped at 60fps to maintain and preserve frame data in a competitive environment. Thanks and yet another great video.
The even lower 360Hz lag would apply in that situation anyway, so you're all good. If you set windows refresh rate to 60Hz to align with the game, then the new 60Hz lag number would apply
no
Just stay at 360Hz while playing your game at 60fps.
And no the input lag improvement is not that massive, it just might help in clutch situations.
Human lag is still the biggest lag that you could improve more than your OLED monitor ever could.
Great video, however I feel you missed an important metric in the input latency test for the MSI MAG 271QPX and 32 inch version. Specifically the input latency at 120Hz (Specifically over HDMi) This is important as we would like to know the difference between 240Hz PC and Console 120Hz input latency (as MANY there many games that do run at 120FPS on Xbox S/X and PlayStation 5)
At the moment we don’t have a reliable way to measure lag at 120Hz I’m afraid which is why it was omitted
Doesn't matter for consoles u aint going pro lmaoo
My biggest issue with the 32 4k 240hz. I need to make sure to set DSC to off before I turn it off, because my PC for some reason when it restarts doesn't see it as active. And turning it off and on can cause issues when it's switching. Other then that, this monitor is the best one Ive ever used before and Im quite happy I purchased it.
What's kinda crazy is the non firmware one was only like $50 cheaper when I was buying this in Canada, so it made the non firmware one look like such a bad deal considering all the updates MSI has already put into these things LOL
i returned mine because i had the same power issue and couldn't fix it lol
awesome update for those playing on console!
Just got my 271QRX today and it already has v.011 installed! There is a v12 available now tho
The rest of qpx line up not being able to receive firmware updates is criminal
Please do msi 321up
Thank you for testing this! It would be a shame if MSI isn't able to improve the Peak 1000 mode, as other brands seem to have found solutions. For HDR gaming, is it still best to go with P1000?
Thanks TFTCentral! Between 321urx and aw3225qf, which is more color accurate in hdr and sdr? Which has better gamma tracking? I keep hearing MSI oversaturated hdr and is too dark gamma in sdr? When I do lagom black level test for MSI, the squares 1-6 I can’t see in sdr but in hdr it looks washed out? On aw3225qf I can’t see square 1 but rest I can see in both hdr and sdr
probably best to have a read through the review of the AW3225QF and the video of the MPG 321URX to pick out the parts that are relevant., although if you've got both then i guess you can decide which you prefer anyway?
I know in ur review for the MSI there’s a delta of 4-5 in hdr but in other reviews like monitors unboxed I see delta e of 7-15. Idk which to trust. I also seen that aw targets srgb gamma whereas MSI targets 2.2?
With this update, could you also conform if known as it wasnt disclosed in your article if the MPG 491CQPX QD-OLED monitor is available in the UK? Distributors are suggesting it's specific to the Asian markets.
Thanks and regards,
Jonathan
Have there been no significant FW updates from Gigabyte or Alienware for their QDs?
Could you look at the TCL 27R83U, it's a 27" 4k 160hz HVA FALD with 1000+ dimming zones and very impressive HDR luminance.
Gigabyte have released a few minor updates but nothing big
I had this monitor. It is good, the blooming is minimal. Brightness is super but the monitor get so hot. Hot on touch actually. And monitor got stucked many times, especially when i was switching from a tv to the display. The screen was not responsive. The osd was slow also. I saw a shadow near cursor with every overdrive settings for response time. Also, no firmware updates. This is TCL 27r83u
Firmware FW.012 dropped on the 13th for the 271QRX. Sadly no EOTF fixes yet it seems.
do these monitors support downgrading the fw?
@@tobias2873 I don't know sorry.
@tobias2873 not sure what would happen if you tried an older version, but I expect it would work. Why would you need to though?
Thanks for this. Also can you guys give the input lag on the new update when the new update comes. Sometimes companies fix one thing and ruin another. Input lag for the msi271qrx
I wonder if they will ever make the ABL less aggressive with an update.
No updates for 271QPX?
He probably didn’t include it because qrx and qpx are the same thing just different hz lol
@@Arctioa They are both 360Hz...
@@razorgcy you are on drugs m8
@@Arctioa Don't confuse it with 271QPX E2, "mate"!
@@ArctioaYou are incorrect. The older E2 model is 240hz. The new MAG 271QPX is 360hz
The moment they release the update for the peak 1000 mode is when this monitor will be perfect.
I've got good news for you, it's been done, firmware should be available today or tomorrow.
@@jmart3849 and the p1000 update is disappointing.
Will you be providing any updates/support for the other current MSI MAG monitors, such as the MAG 271QPX E2? It’d be great to know if that monitor will be receiving the HDR updates/fixes that they’re working on as well.
Side note: As someone that’s new to these higher end monitors; how long do these manufacturers typically continue to support their monitors with updates? A couple years or more? Or do they move on when their new monitors are released?
Please be honest, is this a budget model? I like high end PQ, no black crush etc
Hey, great video. I was wondering whether you tested the input lag on DP or HDMI with DSC enabled. Or did you do both. Did you find a big latency with hdmi?
It was all tested with DP. I doubt there’s any difference using HDMI, but we haven’t measured it I’m afraid
@@tftcentral i see, thanks for your response. Do you know how the latency compares to the alienware aw2725df
Check our review for that model on the main site 🙂
@@tftcentral oh nice I didn't know you also had a website. Thanks!
@Idris-x1w no worries. Yeah the website has been going a lot longer, the TH-cam channel is a newer spin off 🙂
Just got my 271QPX monitor but didn’t realise I had to update firmware. It won’t support 1440p on my PS5 and I don’t have anyway of downloading the firmware as my work laptop restricts downloads. What a pain for not doing my due diligence.
Stupid question, but if I just got the monitor, do I ONLY need to install the latest firmware? Or do I need to install all of them?
Just the latest ver is all you need
Hey 👋 question ❓ im thinking about getting the msi 321urx monitor since its on Sale at best buy. But i don't understand this eco system. I'm come from smartphone and tablet background I never owned a tv or monitor because it was to expensive or to big. 32 inch 4k qdoled seens like the sweet spot for my small room. Now correct me if I'm wrong this monitor isn't smart? Or have wireless capabilities? Right no tv turner either right? It's ok I was gonna use it with a chromecast gifted to me and does this support video and audio over usbC? I was gonna use my s24 ultra with it. Now this monitor doesn't have any speakers built in? Can I use any headphones with it? And one more thing how do you update it? I do have a older hp windows laptop from 2019 it has no usbC ports no hdmi ports just Ethernet port 2 usb ports a port of printer and a port for memory card. So if I get this monitor how will I update it?
Correct there’s no smart TV functions on this model, it’s just a raw display. If you especially wanted those then the similar Samsung Odyssey G80SD has them (review on our main site)
On this MSI there’s no wireless, speakers, TV tuner either. You can send video over USB-C but not audio, and since there’s no speakers you’d prob be best just connecting a soundbar or whatever to the source device for the sound anyway. You could send sounds via HDMI from the device to the monitor and then use the headphone connection on the monitor to listen to the audio if you wanted
To firmware updates you need to be able to connect screen to laptop via normal USB, and then video signal preferably via displayport but I expect HDMI would work too.
@tftcentral ok yeah see that was the part I was confused by. Because I do have a usbC to USB wire and a duo USB to USB wire. since I watched the video u mentioned it has usb ports and USBC port. So I was thinking I could use my USB to USB C or duo USB to USB wire to update it.
@JohnBoyed-fo6fm you’d need to use the regular USB A port on your laptop, then to the USB B port on the monitor with the cable in the box. Nice and easy
@@tftcentral ooohhhh ok I understand now so it comes with the monitor. The wire to update it with the laptop.
@JohnBoyed-fo6fm yep 👍
How to do this on Ps5?
You need a Pc and DisplayPort connection to update the firmware I’m afraid
There is a fw.012, but that doesn't seem to change eotf. Please keep an eye on it, I'd prefer to use 1000 if the eotf curve is fixed, not that 400 doesn't look great already. Thank you.
No, that update is apparently coming soon. We will bring you news and testing as soon as we can, prob in advance of its formal release
@@tftcentral Glad to hear the EOTF update is still coming! Unrelated question: Do you know if it's possible to rollback/downgrade to an older firmware on the 321URX? I'm still on FW.010 and worried about updating because I've seen several reports of users having issues on newer versions. I would be less hesitant to update if I knew I could rollback to previous firmware if I have issues after an update.
@@tftcentral Thank you for keeping up with the firmware updates.
Additionally, please ask MSI to allow the factory calibrated colour gamut clamp modes in HDR. Currently on FW.012 those 3 modes under "Pro" modes aren't available, and the User mode seems to be native panel gamut. I'd like to use the calibrated P3 mode in HDR.
I've taken some HDR video clips from an iphone 14pm and a s20 fe, and playing those clips on my 321URX in HDR in User mode the reds look significantly more saturated compared to on the phones the clips came from. These flapship phones' displays are supposed to have be quite well calibrated in HDR mode.
I could dodge the issue above in FW.09 by setting both SDR and HDR to P3 mode when I am in HDR. It has stopped me from using HDR on the display. Would be nice if I can use sRGB for SDR and P3 for HDR.
It is quite frustrating because I know that calibrated P3 mode is right there and solves all my issues, but it is greyed out.
Would be nice for a Mac too, Mac OS allows configuring the OS wide default colour gamut, in SDR I can set it to P3 and clamp the 321URX to P3 and things would just be tonemapped and look right no matter if they're tagged as P3 or sRGB, in HDR since I can't clamp the display to any of the calibrated colour clamp mode everything looks wrong at all times, the default automatically generated display specific profile is noticeably incorrect with the reds again. Would be nice if I can use the calibrated P3 mode in HDR mode for this use case too.
Following up to above, if msi cant allow using colour clamped modes in hdr due to technical limitations, just letting us copy the reference modes to User mode works too.
@arthur78 I’m not sure but I’d have thought it would work tbh
msi271qpx qd oled e2 owner. im on FW.019 Firmware, i didnt get a USBA TO USBB cable , on their website i can only see 2 Firmware SOP an Scaler - Firmware. how do i go about this THANK YOU
The latest firmware for the MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2 appears to be firmware FW.022. This monitor does not have USBB ports which is why the USBB cable is not included. You will need to connect this monitor to PC via Displayport and update the monitor that way.
What's the easiest way to firmware update on a Mac, if you don't have access to a PC?
Hey! What about the latency for the 321UPX? is it the same as the 321URX you covered in this video?
Yes it should be, they released the same firmware update for that MAG model too with same changelog. The update process is a bit different though, follow their guide on their support page
Thanks!
hello, I want to ask if all the firmwares need to be installed one by one, or is the latest FW.011 enough?
Latest one includes all previous updates too so just install that
How about the MAG 321Up? (165hz)
I have that one too bro i use it for my ps5 and while it does look good as it should its definitely too dark in HDR .. version 009 , i was told by an msi tech i could update it with the utility from there site , they have now removed that utility download although i still actually have the file i dont currently have a pc to try and update it
@@jonnozI have .009, as of yesterday they deleted the utility… but they never posted the actual FW file…. Do you have the Utility to send me? I’d like to test out a way to update.. I have Mac as my main, but a tiny windows box for FW updates.. let me know would appreciate it 🙏🏽
@@AJCoReTV i think my reply just got automatically deleted guessing im not allowed to post a link on here ? I have a download link from msi that still works do u have reddit bro ? I just replied to someone on there with the same issue as us
@@jonnoz I’ll reply there… yes that’s me
Question. I own the 271QRX. I play on Xbox series X. In console mode it allows the monitor to receive a 4K signal that is downsampled to 1440p which k think it does extremely well. It’s very sharp, I’ve previously owned a 1440p monitor and this is crisp. The question is do you think playing on this setting do you think it would have more input lag on the downsampled 4k signal than playing at native 1440p setting?
That’s not something we tested. I doubt it though as we’ve never found different resolutions to have any major or meaningful (if any at all) impact on lag. I’d expect it to be the same
Hello is it still the best settings for the MSI 27" MPG 271QRX from your video you made 15th of march or has it changed? :D
Still the same guide 😀
cant wait for the fix of the hdr 1000 on the 321 urx.. should I use 400 in the meantime? Is 1000 still the best option if i'm able to rise the hdr brightness in game?
Hello) Did you notice flickering with VRR on? Especially in Silent hill 2 (2024). It is only pain with Msi mpg 321urx. Thanks for your review)
V12 update please?
i just bought the MSI MPG 271QRX yesterday do i have to update the software now or its already installled ?
Check what’s listed in the bottom right hand corner of the menu and then update from there if it’s older. I suspect it will be on an old version and need an upgrade
It keeps saying update fail
You use DP or HDMI? MSI says strictly DP for FW update@@o413jose
Will the mag 321up have vrr with the update
The fw0.25 has awful banding on 341cqp. The new version fw 0.28 causes signal drops and artifacting. Only fw 0.17 actually works properly for me
strange, we didn't notice any problems. I would recommend trying a new DisplayPort cable perhaps
When is rhe 49inch firmware update coming out?
Hey TFT, would you recommend I use the MPG 321URX ICC profile on my MAG 321UPX model? I know the only difference is the features of both monitors but I had to ask.
I’d expect the factory calibrations to be very similar and so there’s a good chance the OSD settings and profile could help. I’d say it’s worth trying 👍
I have the MAG 271QPX and I can't see the option to download the gaming intelligence utility on the product page? The firmware updates are listed but not the utility
The MAG models don’t support the gaming intelligence software. The firmware should come with instructions on how to update without it
am i just seeing things?or do i see a purple tint on the monitor?i thought purple only happens on blacks and dont affect the overall picture in lit rooms.
Purple tint affects all pixels on a QD OLED
Keep in mind also the B roll was filmed under fairly bright directed studio lighting
You don't see the tint under operation.
Can I use PC with DP 1.2 to update 321URX firmware which actually having DP1.4?
Picked up my MPG321URX 2 weeks ago.
Came to you guys to grab your optimised settings - th-cam.com/video/wiFuqjXqWxw/w-d-xo.html
2 things of note
1 - MSI need to implement a toggle in the gaming intelligence settings so it doesn't autoload with windows (after you're set up the need to change things is greatly reduced)
2 - if the panel protect pop up irks you like it did me (I died during a ranked game) change the panel protect from auto to 16hrs. This will avoid the pop but, when you shut your pc down once it's been asleep for 10 minutes if the monitor needed to do panel care (ie, it's been on for more than 4 hours since last care regardless of the auto/16hr setting) it will turn it self on, do the care sweep, then go back to sleep. This is ideal as it's non intrusive unless you game for 16hrs in a hit in which case there is something else you need to worry about.
Can you comment on such a problem - in the second day of using the monitor I spent a day using HDMI(laptop), after which switched to my home pc DP (2080Ti, 240Hz, 4K) and started to notice white blocks flashing on any screen. Flashed the FW to 11. After several attempts at addressing the problem I switched the DP to another port in the GPU and the problem seems to have resolved itself (I hope). I wrote this on MSI's forum and got a reply from another person with the same problem and somehow similar resolution.
Strange but generally in my experience when you get image artefacts it’s down to the cable
@@tftcentral it seems like a cable problem, but I had the first day smooth run. I'm still trying to recall maybe I tried hiding the cables or something. But when it started to happen I checked the cable connection a few times (didn't reconnect it, just pushed it to the socket from the monitor side to see maybe it came off a bit... but I didn't try that on the PC side). And the person who responded to my comment, did a bunch of things, last of which was related to reseating the cable. Also, if to google the 321URX with the white blocks/lines... there seem to be quite a few of matches.
@TheDeadStyx I more mean the quality and length of the cable being a problem, even some which are advertised as top end can struggle I’ve found
@@tftcentral as long as "it's the cable!" I am quite OK. I used the ones that came with the monitor (both DP and HDMI). My first fear was "oh shint, it's a faulty circuitry!". I haven't worked with DP (this monitor is a replacement of a VA monitor, I bought back in 2014... eye/headache issues), so maybe this is just that (although from the fact that DP locks to a port, I would assumed it to be better in terms of reliability).
Does it matter DP vs HDMI 2.1? For a GPU supporting both? I mean in terms of input lag and processing times as well as VRR performance. I have a 4090 and MSI 32 inch 4k 240hz OLED monitor
no none at all,
had the 011 firmware on my MPG 271QRX for a couple of days and had to downgrade to 010 again, because the 011 version was causing BSODs.
after every pixel refresh cycle my graphics driver (RTX 4090, Windows 10) kept crashing repeatedly until a BSOD occured.
no issues whatsoever with the 010 firmware.
You can downgrade firmware?
Hey, do you know if MSI mag 271QPX QD-OLED E2 (240hz ver) has similar input lag issues as the monitors in this video?
How can I check it?
Great update, I want this monitor for Dual Use Photo Editing and Gaming.
I need to know how I can white balance this monitor and test / calibrate for Adobe RGB color space. MSI claims 97% Adobe RGR color space and has a control in the Pro Section to set it. MSI Tech Support in US doesn’t seem to know anything about this and doesn’t seem to have any documentation on factory calibration or how to calibrate the unit. I suspect the 321URX 32” has hardware based calibration but it could be locked. I have Pro level calibrator. They sent me the Manual but there was no documentation on calibrating for any color space etc..
Also can you download ICC Color Profile Software for this specific monitor?
I replied to your other comment about this so have a look there too. This screen does not support hardware level calibration, you will only be able to software profile the screen with your device
I ended up getting this maybe you can make a video if it works but it's a BENFEI HDMI to display port unidirectional HDMI
Do not install FW 025 on MAG 341CQP - color banding is awful on this firmware. Stay on/upgrade to FW 017. The good thing is that FW can be rolled back from 025 to 017.
We didn’t experience that in our testing
@tftcentral I am not the only one with this problem. At least two other reddit users also had to roll back the firmware update. Googling "Gradient bending MSI 341CQP" will take you to reddit post. Link in the comments will take you to my comparison photo of 017 vs 025
@@tftcentral I do not know how was this tested but firmware 028 fixes the issue. From the changelog: "3. Fixed Color Banding phenomenon."
I used to use the pro mode user like you suggested back in your original Cqp settings suggestions with the custom color temp. but after i just updated my firmware all my setting got reset so when i was changing it back to what i had i noticed a big difference in the colors on the same mode. I cant pin point exactly what it is but it seems more bright and the colors look a bit washed out imo. not sure what happend. not sure what settings to use now.
Recently got the 27in. For firmware update it says to connect via display port. I assume that using a USB C to DP adapter when connecting to my laptop should be fine ?
Quick question, is there a color temperature modifier in HDR mode? I honestly do not enjoy Warm2 preset (even tho its more accurate)
What about the 271QPX model?
Not one we’ve tested I’m afraid
Hi! A quick question, I saw in the nvidia cpanel the option to use nvidia color settings with 32 bits and 10 bpc. Should I enable this or leave it as default on "use default colors"?
Set that to 10-bit colour depth if not already selected
@tftcentral many thanks
@tftcentral does 10 bpc affects games too ?
@adamu6941 yes that will remain active throughout different content
@@tftcentral i swich from diplayport to HDMI 2.1 and now i can put 12 bpc, better to use it too ?
No firmware on msi web for mag274qrf-qd-e2. Its possible update via USB only, my pc have no DP.
Currently experiencing a issue with my 341CQP if anyone knows a solution or can guide me on what to do. The issue is with the KVM, when I connect both my mouse and keyboard into the USB ports in the display when the display goes to sleep I am not able to wake it back up, its like the USB ports also go into sleep. The USB upstream is also connected. Any suggestions would be appreciated
Did you try tuning off the monitor and back on again?
@@hassanpiracha1961 yeah that works but unfortunately it’s rather tedious to do since when my peripherals are connected to my pc I can just press anything and the screen wakes back up
Please refer manual on page 16 and modify "Auto Scan" to OFF.
2.Please refer manual on page 19 and modify "Power Button" to Standby. This is the official fix. I have the same issue I will try it too
@@hassanpiracha1961 I’ll try that thank you !
@@hassanpiracha1961 hey, I tried this out and indeed it works as I was hoping now the mouse and keyboard wake up the screen from standby. Thank you so much
Wish they fixed the coil whine somehow, returning my 341cqpx cause of it, not a rare issue looking online
341cqp is silent
Why is the processing lag for fixed 60hz so high (and pretty much across all monitor brands) ?
I'm not sure of the technical challenges, but a lot of the time the screens are just not optimised for non-native refresh rates, and it's given very little focus. you can see from these FW updates what is possible when manufacturer do spend time trying to improve things though, so it must be possible to improve - to a point. These high refresh rate screens aren't really designed for low refresh rate devices a lot of the time either
I have the MAG 321UPX QD-OLED and need to update the firmware. The MSI gaming intelligence download only has an option for windows 11 and I'm still using 10 and don't want to switch. Is there a windows 10 version? Thanks
Have you tried it to see if it works? I imagine it is fine for Win10 too
@@tftcentral I will try it. Thanks for the response.
I wonder when we will get the hdr1000 update
I’ve been told it should be this month
@tftcentral that's amazing
Why can't we use HDMI for the Firmware Update?
not sure tbh as i'd expect the signal to be sent over the USB connection, unless it causes crashes and video signal issues while it's updating or when it's finished. The MSI guidance says you need to use DP so for safety I'd stick with that
hello do yhou have the best setting updae for this monitor ? especially the 271qrx
The existing best settings guides are still relevant and up to date 😀
i have samsung G6 oled 360hz, i asked samsung when they will upgrade firmware to decrease input lag and reduce response times on lowered refresh rate... no answer... What to do ?
What situations are you using it for lower refresh rates?
It should already have as low input lag as these, if RTings measurements are to be believed.
Does this also apply to the 240hz E2 model?
Not sure as we’ve not tested that. Their firmware change log on their support page should confirm what they’ve changed and updated though
@tftcentral thank you. Will your calibration settings apply to the E2 do you think? I believe it is the same tech, just different refresh.
@Tw33die84 some of the general settings should be fine but the brightness and RGB levels are likely to be different
I have the msi MAG27QPX oled you say connect the cable usba to usbb what cable it’s that my monitor only brings 4 connections 2 HDMI 1 dp and 1 usbc so what cable do I need to update mine cause this lag when I play on xbox it’s really strong I don’t like it
This video and the Fw updates discussed only apply to the MPG model. MSI have released Fw updates for the MAG model too but there’s a different process and software for those as, like you say, there’s no USB ports and they don’t support the Gaming Intelligence software either
You can find instructions and the updating process on the relevant MSI product page along with the FW files you need
MSI MAG 271QPX QD OLED E2 .... can you explain to me how to do it because I've tried everthing and nothing has worked, I currently have FM version .019 recived yesterday from Amazon and the most recent FM on the website is FW.022
I've tried the "FM Update Utility" couldn't get it to work, I've tried the "Display Kit" and both FM options, including the FM itself. Is the FM.019 enough or should I be worried about updating it further, this seems unreasonably difficult lol
I’ve not actually tried the FW on the MAG series. You may need to ask other owners or MSI support I’m afraid
How can you update if you don't have a pc
You can’t I’m afraid
@tftcentral I think I found something that would let me update it I bought this cord with a USB and display port off connected to each other off Amazon
So when in playing call of duty now at 240 fps i should set my hz on 240 and not on 360 to get less input lag? Or can i keep 360hz and cap the game at 220fps?
Keep windows active refresh rate at the native max for the lowest lag
MAG 321UP no update sadly
But that doesn't have a USB b port. How would it get updated anyways?
@@DealerofDoom it does have a usbc
How can I update the firmware on the Mag 271qpx?
Is the response on this better than the aw3423dw?
Response times are basically the same for all OLED screens, near instant
@@tftcentral Okay cool so in that case gsync ultimate really doesn't matter either?
That is a bit different. It has some benefits when it comes to VRR flicker in gaming from the comparisons and tests we’ve seen
@@tftcentral sounds good to me thank you. I'll take the 8 bit 175 from aw just fine!
Dont have kvm on my MAG 271QPX QD-OLED monitor...
should i use dsc with xbox series x? playing fps games
No reason to disable it at all for Xbox
@@tftcentral thank you. last question, should i enable pc rgb instead of standard on xbox?
@BeyoRobins I don’t think so, no
My g
My monitor keeps "failed to update" super annoying.
I think QD OLED 4k 240hz can do 1080p 480hz
If Samsung makes it work
MSI Intelligence Software is not available anymore i guess, cant download a new firmware just released a few days ago for the life of me. MSI Firmware update utility keeps failing.
qpx version still lagging behind?
?
Would be nice if you could bug Asus to fix the EOTF issues with the HDR brightness 100 on the XG27AQDMG. It looks horrible in HDR movies and series. highlight posterization and dark scenes become pitch black.
I have the MS321URX. Updated to the latest firmware FW11:
Issues I have are:
1: turning off DSC- when trying to activate HDR. It doesn’t work. The problem is still there at least in my panel. Also, turning off DSC makes the colors really weird at 120hz refresh rate. When I switch the refresh rate to 60hz, they look better but still weird.
2. My panel still shows adaptive sync and not the free sync premium pro.
Can anyone provide a fix or
Solution to this?
After the firmware update I would recommend doing a screen reset in the menu too. See if that helps with any of it?
@@tftcentral didn’t help. Don’t know if it helped anyone else. Any way to roll back to previous driver and do the update again?
@@tftcentral it worked. I had to download the INf driver file from 321urx driver page, then I had to go to device manager>monitors>update driver. Now it shows the certification.
@@tftcentral DSC off HDR on is working but only on HDMI not on DP. Shouldn’t it work on both?
It should work on both, yes. It worked fine for me on an RTX 3090
This 32 msi urx caused me bad eye strain, anybody get his ?
What’s the Input lag for the mpg321URX at 120hz for console
Sorry we don’t have a reliable way to measure that at this time but I’d expect it to be in between the native and 60Hz figure
Ah thanks for a reply. I just checked msi twitter and on their post on 17/08/24 it says their 60hz is now 14.5ms?? How come it’s so much higher than yours.could you check because I would buy it now if it’s that low
That post is based on results from rtings.com, but their figures never seem to make sense. As far as I can tell, their lag figure includes half a frame but I no idea why. Very odd and it always causes confusion as their figures never align with anyone else as a result.
The results from their review of the MPG321URX are actually 2.8ms at 240Hz, 5.1ms at 120Hz and 13.5ms at 60Hz
and so at 60Hz that’s 8.33ms, plus the actual signal processing lag and delay of the monitor which would therefore be 5.17ms, which is very close then to our figure.
At 240Hz that would be 2.08ms from the half of a single frame leaving 0.72ms of actual lag, again very close
My 271qrx is on fw 0.19. Came stock like this. Anyone got it too
9 minutes to apply a 1 MB update? That's slower than writing to a floppy disk!
haha, true but i guess writing to a scaler takes a while. i've seen longer on other screens too
Maybe it uses some PLC Flash with analog 32 voltage levels...
@@tftcentral Or that ridiculously sized bloatware package has too many do nothing loops in it to get anything done in reasonable time...
I mean installation package of whole Windows XP operating system was of that size.
Wow this is funny. asus support said that on pg32ucdm a 19ms input lag on 60hz is "normal" - wonder WHat will they tell now when on msi you will get 4-5ms with 60hz refresh rate. asus...
And Asus be charging a hecken premium too. I have the MSI MAG 321UPX which is the cheaper version of the 321URX and just updated to FW.019 which also included input lag. Definitely gonna buy another MSI monitor in the future, possibly Gigabyte too!
ASUS OLEDS HAVE HORRIBLE latency. Jumped from a XB273U NX 275 hz 1440p GSYNC module to OLED 1440 240 hz XG27AQDMG and the click latency and screen latency is horrible. It’s for sure the monitor. Or the cheap scaler they use. I wonder if the PG OLED 240 hz has a better controller. People laughed at gsync modules, but they are just superior!
@@Multimeter1 BIG LETTERS. all of the qd-oleds gen.3 tech panels comes from smas-u-ng - all vendors do have exactly the same latency with 240hz. as fot g-sync module - it is actually removing vrr-flicker (somewhat) from qd-oled aw3423dw (go reat t-rings review). ips with dedicated g-sunc are great - but ips glow, no hdr abd back light back light b-le-ed is a BIG problem.
@@ALFGamingTVnot true Gsync modules gives better latency for in games. I tested this already and did blind testing with 5 other people
@@Multimeter1 better latency with this module only for ips-va tech - that is true. for oled this module is useless - exept making vrr flickering less agressive.
Hello all! Proud first time OLED user here!
I do not have a PC capable of updating the firmware on this monitor. Has the latest patch improved the black crush at all? The entire top row of boxes on lagom's test is completely crushed. I am very surprised there is no mention of Black Crush anywhere in RTINGs review. Very disappointed since the last update was back in May so I was hoping that it would at least come with the latest firmware since I just bought it yesterday from Bestbuy. Came with firmware 0.09 out of the box.
How do I know which RGB range the HDMI from the monitor is outputting and how do I change it? Limited (16-235) or Full RGB (0-255) ? Since it's a monitor I am assuing it's 0-255 but I do not see any options in the monitor and my Xbox is set to "standard" RGB so I want to make sure they match.
What setting should I use for HDR calibration in the Xbox HDR cailbration menu? RTINGS has this monitor rated for 1000 nits at 2% Peak and 467 nits at 10% Peak. Should I calibrate it for 1000 nits? I am trying to play Hogwarts Legacy and everything seems very dark! My 10+ year old Samsung VA monitor was much brighter!
Why are the 50hz and 24hz video modes not available / supported with this monitor in the Xbox settings? Not a big deal but still curious.
Where is the best place to get general help and info about this specific monitor? Is there a specific reddit thread , forum or discord available?
which model do you have? You won't be able to update firmware without a PC or laptop i'm afraid to connect it to and install the software.
The HDMI connection should auto-detect the input RGB range and set accordingly, but the default would almost certainly be full range 0 - 255.
HDR mode brightness is an ongoing issue in the Peak 1000 mode, check out the article linked in the description for info and background. You may find the HDR 400 True Black mode brighter right now. just follow the steps in the Xbox calibration app for configuring brightness on the console, once you've selected whichever mode you want on the monitor.
@@tftcentral Apologies and thank you kindly for the response! I just recently purchased the MPG 271QRX.
I will try HDR 400 True Black mode as you suggest. Can you say how many nits I should set in the Xbox HDR calibration menu with this monitor? If you press LB-RB-RT-LT buttons at the same time in the HDR calibration menu, you can see the exact values in Xbox. I have Peak Luminance set to 1000 nits and blacks set to 0. Can I leave it at 1000 nits or do those values need to be changed?
Is there a reason why I cannot select 50hz and 24 hz video modes with this monitor? Isn't that weird?
@drakewilliams6069 the visual guidance on the screen with the white boxes is more important than reported numbers, I would suggest following that. If you end up using the TB400 mode instead it will end up being around 450 nits peak
@@tftcentral Alright I did as you suggested and set the monitor to TB400 and HDR looks clear, vivid, vibrant and BEAUTIFUL now in HDR! In the Xbox HDR calibration menu, the image was still visible at 400 nits and disappeared at 450 nits so I left it at 450 nits max luminance. Thank you so much for your help good sir!
I still have black crush according to lagom's black level test in SDR but will still need to test how much of an issue that is if at all. I also turned on the refresh rate OSD on the monitor but it only displays the refresh rate I am connected with on the Xbox and not the actual framerate of the game I am currently playing so seems kind of useless. I also turned off all of the OLED care settings in the monitor just in case they were interfering with the image. I just set the Xbox to auto dim after 2 minutes when idle.
@drakewilliams6069 the frame rate counter would only change dynamically if you also have VRR enabled and active on the monitor and Xbox. It should work then. I’d suggest leaving some of the oled care features on to help with image retention mitigation. I don’t think you’d spot any adverse effects in gaming like that
500mb file! and thats HEFTY n gonna take some time.... " 1990's called, they are asking if you are enjoying your brand new 56k dial up modem"
lol, yes fair point. I still think 500M is excessive for a utility tool like this :)
They should update their osd, its layout is so bad
I think it’s fine personally. Seen a lot worse!
Can u do test on the 321 UPX with firmware 0.19, would like to know if that has better 60hz latency, the patch notes say it's improved but be good if u can test
damn im here for this too, nobody has replied yet :/
@ichampagnez2204 I’d expect the results for the MAG 321UPX to be the same as it’s largely the same screen just with a few feature differences. Same panel, scaler and tuning though so should be the same