Hey, just putting this here because apparently I got a few things wrong about the series and would like to address them here. 1. Apparently to become a pillar, you must slay 100 demons or kill an upper six demon moon. I didn't know this because it was in a one side panel that takes place after the chapter is finished. 2. Like I put in the * near the bottom of the screen, Akaza had more reasons for seeing his dead wife than just Tanjiros face 3. Enmu didn't unleash his true power because he got cocky and assumed he'd be able to eat the passengers which he didn't due to the others helping Sorry for these mistakes I made. I genuinely meant no harm. And to be absolutely clear if I wasn't already, I don't think Demon Slayer is the worst thing ever. I don't like it (at least not the manga), but that doesn't mean you can't and I don't understand why others do.
no its a lower moon, not a upper 6 demon moon or what the hell ucall it.. also just say upper moons or lower moons and for each individual demon say like lower moon 1 or upper moon 3
I know you're expecting a comment telling you how your wrong but, I just want to thank you for giving your honest opinion in a respectable manner. I personally don't care if you or other people dislike something that I like. I do however, have a problem when reviewers make fun of fans of series they don't like.
To be completely honest as a demon slayer fan and with me read a large amount of the story I do understand, mostly with you saying little to nothing is explained about the characters or anything until after fights are over or certain training is over.
Lmao that "character has a good family life then went off for a night comes back then discovered that family is murdered" trope occurs WAY too many times in this manga.
@@rompevuevitos222 Tropes aren't inherently bad. But the ones DS uses are bland and over used. The bigger issue is the sheer amount of plot contrivances.
@@remus4283 they kinda are when a character's personality is based around that. Orange kid whose name i refuse to remember is just the "horny coward" until he is asleep. Then he literally flies like Superman (because apparently there is a magic system for humans that was never explained) But while he is awake he is simply unlikeable Tanjiro is a bit bland, but at least he isn't an intentional hindrance to everyone around him.
@@rompevuevitos222 Ikr having Zenitsu (Yellow hair pussy) as a main cast character is so offputting. I honestly didnt enjoy the main trio. Tanjiro is too tame, Zenitsu is coward trash and Innosuke is too loud.
one thing that always bugged me was the other random demon slayers. anyone who isn’t a main character is extremely weak and stuck with the generic black uniform.
I mean, that is kinda the point of a uniform. Uniforms are meant to make people look the same and considering that most of the younger demon slayers are orphans or come from poor families, it makes sense that they don't have all sorts of fancy jackets and accessories. I personally don't mind the design either, a basic black with the Kanji for destroy on the back gets to the point as well as fitting the aesthetic of the era they are in, but that is just down to preference. They also bring up at multiple points that the newer and younger demon slayers are more cowardly and not as committed to training and lacked discipline by running in solo or disregarding the orders of higherups as they were seeking glory and an easy path to becoming a pillar (where you are basically a celebrity with the ability to demand respect from anyone and get paid just about whatever you want) before ultimately died meaningless deaths (along with the others they abandoned in their selfishness) as the demons grew stronger significantly faster than the new recruits while keeping to their orders from Muzan at the risk of a painful death to those who disobey. The main point of it is to show how the future of the organization was in jeopardy and how the final showdown between the demon slayers and the demons will draw closer. You can criticize Demon slayer for a lot of things, but I just don't see how you can for those two things.
@@Algebruh2407 yeah but there are different ranks of demon slayers?Well by their uniforms they all seem the same.Weak little people waiting to be killed:(
Like why wouldn't the author flesh out the character of the guy who's mom thought he smashed her vase in the first episode? Like, why have a character in your story if you don't flesh them out?
Demon Slayer is a big case of biting more than you can chew. The writer made this big family for Tanjiro but didn’t have the chops to develop it properly. They made 10 breathing forms and 2 years of training for Tanjiro but speedran through the whole thing. They made 10 slayer ranks but didn’t properly explain them. 15 villains but only explored around half of them. The list goes on.
Demon Slayer is a big case of biting more than you can chew. The writer made this big family for Tanjiro but didn’t have the chops to develop it properly. They made 10 breathing forms and 2 years of training for Tanjiro but speedran through the whole thing. They made 10 slayer ranks but didn’t properly explain them. 15 villains but only explored around half of them. The list goes on.
Tbh the various formations all seems like a bunch of nonsense when you watch it, they don't even tell the audience there *are* 10 formations, like dude you literally just informed me about that personally as I had no clue there were actually 10 formations. This whole time I was convinced they were just bullsh!tting the whole time. the whole time. For real, it just comes off like they're pulling random numbers out of their asses as they all throw elements at each other. And tbh, it's already excessive as fvck to be doing all these ridiculous constant naming every single move every time anything is done, it was bad enough in dragon ball z with how often they've gotta shout out a moves name, and same goes for all the other anime out there that does it, but it gets SO damn pretentious in demon slayer because it's so uncreative and repetitive, but the fact that no one actually even is aware of what anyone's "powers" are past what element they wield, you're just sitting there hearing them spew out random numbers and it feels like you're literally being made fun of as a viewer. It really comes off like the creators think the audience is the biggest group of idiots around, they take so little care to so many aspects of the show/manga that it's pretty insulting. They think the audience is so dumb they can just pull whatever they want out of their asses and they'll eat it up - and tbh they aren't entirely wrong, just look at how huge it is, but my god it comes off as so insulting to me when I see it and it shocks tf out of me how many diehard fans it has. Edit: I did add a little bit, I hadn't originally noted that I personally also didn't know about the 10 formations, but I also added a little bit of context later on in my comment - but I have to say, lastly, my apologies for how long winded my comments can be, it's something I gotta work on but I'm definitely not as good at editing comments on my phone as I would be on a computer because I can't see so much of it without scrolling a bunch.
After finishing the manga, I feel like the main problem is the pacing. It feels like things are going way to fast sometimes and things are getting skipped. And the ending well.....it’s pretty underwhelming. This anime is good I really like it but yeah it’s just missing that deeper characterization in my opinion.
A LOT of recent shounen jump mangas has this problem, BNHA suffered from this early on in the story I think it's probably because the authors fear that their series might be cancelled (Shounen Jump Magazine does that constantly) so they skip a lot of things and go straight to the stuff they want to draw more, which ends up messing up the story and making it just too fucking fast
I think worldbulding is the 2nd problem and Deus Ex Machina in regards to Nezuko is the 3rd one. Like, Kimetsu has this thing were the Goverment is not fond of the Demon Slayers but is never brought up again, it doesn't have a rle in the story, they never get in trouble cause of that and was just an excuse for them to enter the train stealthly, and in regards to Nezuko, she always gets new abilities for no reason. She's "special" from the beginning just caus she is, she's always gettin sudden power ups out of nowhere with no explanation and that feels really flat. I see Kimetsu as the definition of Medium, like, the PERFECT definition of Medium! It has a lot of the problems of a bad writter but a lot of the qualities of a good ones, but like, they're too perrfectly balanced, is not a case of the goos outweights the bad or the inverse, is just the good and the bad always cancel each other out so it just comes of as "Acceptable"
My biggest gripe is that it is just too short lol. They introduced a lot of characters and concepts that werent fully explored, such as the many different demon slayer rankings, and some characters like kanao really only appeared in 2 arcs.
Also,even for characters that apperaed,it was really just tanjiro and nezuko that was fleshed out. None of the other characters had too much development,just a funky backstory. Inosuke and Zenitsu are good examples for this. They had screentime,but it was for no use. They had their screentime to fill out the parts where there woudln't be any plot
Exactly kanao and genya are my favourite character but they don't have that much screen time and many people who have only watched the anime hate both kanao and genya because genya was rude to tanjiro and kanao tried to kill nezuko but genya's past is so terrifying and kanao was just ordered to kill nezuko she was not mean or evil many people say they hate kanao because she tried to kill nezuko but no one hate inosuke he also tried to kill nezuko he was not even ordered to do that
@@Aamnakhan9098 Because inosuke got cool after tanjiro defeated him. Kanao stayed being a cold murderer for multiple episodes after trying to kill nezuko.Also yeah,kanao deserved more screentime
@@Aamnakhan9098 Yeah. It was obvious that she wasn't gonna be a fan favourite but hating her wasn't right. Also,boar boy and pikachu got lots of screentime,yet they still didn't have any character development
One of my biggest gripes is how every Demon Slayer that isn’t a part of the main cast or a Pillar is just super weak. Isn’t being trained with a sword and knowing a breath style vital to being a Demon Slayer? It doesn’t even feel like they’d know how to chop onions. How’d so many pass the entrance exam and survive for so long while being absolute pushovers? They exist only to provide a casualty count in the story
@@daichi9316 the story already ended lmao, here we we have a blind fan who only agrees to his opinion and try defend something that's already been the truth.
@@snoote533 , One Piece is the only anime/manga series that does comedy relief perfectly, but otherwise having comedy relief in anime/manga takes you out of the story, and makes you lose investment about watching/reading that series.
I know this is a joke, but- To become a Hashira you need to apparently kill 50 Demons or a Member of the Twelve Kizuki as a Kinoe (the apprentice to a Hashira).
I really feel like anime nowadays have a problem with "First episode syndrome" They know most people will decide if the anime is worth it or not based on the first episode, so it "has to be" as hype as possible. Get right into the action, no time for anything else. That makes it so the pacing of anime became a lot faster than it used to be, which is good, but pacing that fast can lead to some problems. Old anime had all the time in the world to just take breaths and have slice-of-life episodes, episodes where the characters could talk, episodes simply to hype up future events, episodes to establish the tone... But nowadays, every episode HAS TO be plot-driven and there is barely any space to breathe.
Yeah man I agree with you on the old anime using it's pacing well. NGE (Neon Genesis Evangelion) is an anime a lot of people thought (Me Included) was just another mecha, but if you watch it you realize that what happens before, between and after the giant robot fights, is just as good, if not better, than the fights itself. It fleshed out it's characters and relationships between the characters, all while still keeping the audience engaged.
The whole thing about the DS corps being a secret organization and the demons not being known to all people is kinda off for me too. Like, how did that even happen
@@halinaqi2194 Man, like, Muzan lives in one of the busiest cities in Japan and most people probably have encountered or seen at least 1 Demon in their life (old granny that Rengoku saved met 2). How was it not at least common knowledge that demons exist? Giyuu was labeled mentally unstable because he claimed a Demon came and killed his sister, was there not like at least 1 or 2 people who could vouch for him?
To be fair, Japan does have a lot of mythology regarding mysterious deaths or disappearances. For example, the concept of being spirited away. Now some of the larger scale plans of the demons (looking at you Mugen Train) would be much harder to write off as superstition, but I always read the whole no one knows about the demons thing as the general populace writing it off as superstition or some non-demon type of mystical creature. We see a lot of demons so it can be hard to put to scale, but it's more likely that demon attacks are not super common and spread apart from each other (demons don't like working together after all), and so a couple people going missing here or there gets attributed to mythical creatures
The worst part about the backstories is that they all just meld together towards the end. Everyone has an abusive dad or a sick mom who offs herself or siblings they have to look after and then demons fuck it all up. I legitimately had no idea whose backstory was who's at the end so when they all did their flashbacks it had no meaning.
@@theveganduolingobird7349 While fleshing out their backstories, of course. Well, what did you expect? Demon Slayer is just a bit more realistic than some of the other animes. These people out here fighting literal demons bro, ofc some of them finna die.
@@Hivatel Idk man, getting killed because they fought a strong opponent(s) is a pretty common theme in many - if not any - story. Demon slayer is not really that unique in that departement.
@@Hivatel Its does not go overboard, but doesn't do anything particulary spectacular tbh (manga story wise) which make it rather...standard at best. The anime's animation is pretty good, but overall as a shonen? not that high.
The final fight with Muzan is him swinging his arms around for 20 chapters killing randoms while the pillars keep saying to themselves they are too slow and too weak to defeat him
Bruh I spent how many weeks for muzan to go from muzan jackson to a huge baby demon that has whips and him just using them for 18 chapters The 19th was demon muzan dying and going into tanjiro 20th was tanjiro becoming the demon king and getting cured by nezuko in the same chapter it was an extreme letdown
@@trustyrat8632 tbh i would consider demon slayer a masterpiece if they made a sequel with tanjiro as the new villan and added some episodes where you just chill and relax
Am I the only one who had a hard time genuinely caring about nezuko? Shes barely on screen whitch is a shame because she has a alot of potential. Honestly I know this probably sounds dumb but I've seen alot of fanfics that handle the story better
I was really underwhelmed when I read the manga. Everyone made it seem all these characters had intricate, complex, lovable, and endearing personalities and arcs but it’s really just something anyone could think of in a night or two.
Zenitsu is the most insufferable screaming miserable incel I've ever seen and stops being funny immediately after his introduction. The hashira have TERRIBLE introductions because they do NOTHING but repeat their one-note character quips over and over and just beat it into your head. These characters are dogshit.
@@vronji He's one of the bests character to me, because all his nonsense writing could be classified in "Oh, it's not serious anyways". All the other serious characters can't really get an excuse for bad writing unlike Zentisu.
@@ellahere2300 Comedic characters and comedy can be written well, though, and Zenitsu is a poor example of how you should write a comedic character. A few other examples of comedic relief characters that come to mind are Denki Kaminari from Mha and Toge Inumaki from Jjk. They're funny, loveable characters with funny little gags that can be funny when placed in the right situation (e.g. Denki going stupid whenever he overuses his electricity or Toge only being able to say ingredient words). Zenitsu just reminds me of Deku (who I don't really like in the first place) but much more obnoxious and loud, which isn't really good.
well the story is not that deep and not even intersting for me as the characters but i think most people liked the anime cause of the fights and animation
I really didn’t like the bit about Nezuko being “hypnotized.” I felt that it made her constant struggle to not eat people less impactful because you can’t know how much she’s actually struggling against her instincts and how much of it is just “hypnotism.”
Not gonna lie you just introduced something that could actually work better if Nezuko wasn’t hypnotized, it can give her some development as Tanjiro teaches her himself that she shouldn’t kill humans and only demons.
there is absolutely no reason to think she is literally under hypnotism, she wouldn't just do anything you tell her to do just because you repeat it in her sleep. she obviously understands urokodaki's words and wether she follows them or not is up to her.
@@kinoo4496 It's... Literally stated in the anime that it was hypnotism. Tanjiro was even a little offended in one episode when he found out, which the mask dude (forgot his name lmao) apologized and said there was no other way.
@@-supernova-8164 can't argue with that. Might be just me but I tried to follow the show as best as I could but the pacing really kinda screwed it for me and I just dropped it altogether. I mean you get thrown all types of info your way in a single episode and, personally, it doesn't give you time to absorb it and think shit through before even _more_ shit is shot at you.
That's the issue I had with mha as well, I had no idea when I was in time. At first I thought their school life was only major crises until it told me it was a year later
And his only flaw at the start was "you cant make decisions quickly enough in the heat of the moment and hesitate to kill things", but that was worked out by episode 4 and he was just kinda perfect from then onwards
@@thelegendaryonionring4304 its the goodboi traits that make up their whole characters, idk if youve watched hxh but they gotta greenboi protag but he goes way off the deep end
As a demon slayer fan myself, I understand everything he's saying and why he dosent like this, so in other words DONT BASH HIM JUST BECAUSE HE DOSENT LIKE DEMON SLAYER YOU CRAZY FRICKIN FANS!
@@nox7678 ok tell me, do the ranks mean anything outside of the hashira, do they ever show the backstory of a character before killing them, and do they explain anything about nezuko who is a giant plot tool and to overpowered and unexplained?
@@rosannronchetti2035 no lol yeah the ranks dont. and its not every demon gets a backstory, nezuko is a plot device true. but this is all basic knowledge.. come on give me all his other points. now that shit is stupid
You can tell the author bit off more than they could chew, since previous works were one-shots. The massive story of Demon Slayer could have benefited from more time for development and could easily had doubled the amount of volumes had pacing and character development been handled more carefully. I wanted to care more about characters introduced, but it was impossible due to the amateur crafting of the storytelling, which is a shame because there are amazing ideas there. I liked the manga, but it definitely left me wanting more story development.
Demon slayer had potential but fell short because of the author. He just wanted a quick boring story that could be animated by a good company and make money. People like demon slayer because it looks good. You'll never hear anybody that isn't biased talking about how the plot and writing and pacing is good. It's about the animation
@@volonidminus "He just wanted a quick boring story", the author had family issues so he had to rush the story quickly, he never meant to get it animated by a good company and make money. Check your statements before sending false information.
@@crazybeatrice4555 The author ripped off D.Gray Man. In every single major way. And FAILED at it too. D.Gray Man's author had major illness for which she had to take a hiatus of 8 years. And she STILL came back. And even if she is slow, she is still working, and surpassed her previous art skills, plot and story/characters. Despite having illness that directly interferes with drawing itself. The story is so intricate, deep, well paced, the themes are big and relevant: religion, science, politics, psychology, love, war, life good and evil, relationships, values and spiritualism. And the characters are actually relatable. They have a relatable hope, dream, stuggle, setback and path. Such a story is massive. Anyone trying to copy this as this tried, would definitely bite more than they could even digest. Please if you care give D.gray Man a chance. Because it deserves so. This author did nothing original. Sadly. Katsura Hoshino, creator of D.Gray Man on the other hand... well if you give it a chance you WILL see the level and calibre of difference.
@Cookies , even in the random characters on the street of One Piece are more fleshed out than in Demon Slayer, and I haven’t read Fairy Tail yet, but if the One Piece Film Red is a perfect One Piece film than I plan on reading all through Fairy Tail to see if Just Stop’s viewpoints on Fairy Tail are correct.
@@kokushibo6130 well you don't know about luffy or other anime character's backstory untill they have a moment where they reminisce with a character or they're about to die
I remember being first introduced to Demon Slayer, I heard Rengoku was very loved and etc. and when he died in the anime I was so convinced he was gonna get resurrected, like we barely knew him!
I cared when rengoku died because yea we only got time with him in the movie but they made you easily care about him with his back story and the fact tanjiro looks up to him it’s what he wants to become
@@omarrangelchavez8937 because all the hashiras were unsure tanjiro meets the hashiras and they get to see first hand what tanjiro and nezuko are capable of and earns their respect
To be fair, the manga wasn't that popular until the anime came out, so I think the core virtue in this series is the production value of the anime. The quality is definitely outstanding for someone like me who usually don't pay much attention to art style and such to notice. And then afterwards when I went back to other shows, I started to notice how they're inferior in comparison. The story is quite simple, and not a masterpiece of storytelling, but I think that's precisely the reason for the wide appeal, and can catch the attention of people don't usually watch anime.
Or catch the attention of people who’ve watched so much low quality anime, it’s a breath of fresh air that more effort was put into the art style/animation. It’s simple and doesn’t feel the need to draw out the story to 1000+ episodes
@@Euphoryaaa None of my friends watch anime and there is absolutely no way I can make them watch Demon Slayer and not have them curse at me for wasting their time. I only suggest AoT to any non-anime fan I know because time and time again my friends thanked me for forcing them to watch AoT especially with the current season.
@@lbn6486 Wtf? How the hell are Non-anime watchers not able to watch demon slayer? Wow Maybe the rampant japanese culture in it is too confusing for them
@@Euphoryaaa You can say that all you want but most non-anime watchers are only willing to give an anime a chance if the story is amazing. Most don't watch anime and therefore can't judge solely based on how pretty the animation is. Demon Slayer does not have a revolutionary premise. It's pretty simple. They're not used to slapstick Japanese humour and all the screaming Zenitsu does. Most people I know are put off by anime because of all these cliches and tropes. They are also put off by Eren's screaming but stick to it because the story is great. The reason FMAB or Death Note are still relevant today is because of the story and the uniqueness of it's premise. Let's see how many people consider demon slayer a 'masterpiece' in 10 years. Just because it broke so many records doesn't make it a godsend.
As someone who likes the series I agree, there’s also my fair share of popular titles that I don’t care for, I happen to think that Naruto is overhyped and nonsensical bullshit.
Bruh you need to watch it , bear the first 15 episodes , but after that it’s good And the movie is dropping as well , the movie has already passed the box office record of Japan , surpassing Star Wars : The force awakens
@@shukrantpatil No I have watched it tanjiro just used a new breathing style just because he needed it to beat spider boy an entire ART learned in an instant is way to much plot armor for me
I'm on this side. We can't avoid the flaws of it, no anime is perfect. That's why I loved the show. Tho I think I'm not making sense. Still can't wait for the movie :)))
@@bonitoflake7 Tanjiro technically already knew the art by watching his father using it but i will never know why he randomly thought to use a dance in a battle.
Im honestly relieved to see this video, I really didn't like Demon Slayer, and i thought i was going crazy because every convention I'd vend at, it was just endless Demon Slayer cosplays and merch. I was like did i miss something?? I mean the show wasn't bad, but I just didn't love it and I felt bad for not being as obsessed with it as every one else.
@@nurulzuzaila But I...did? That was the whole point of the comment? I'm not going to watch it again but I did watch it because I was told it gets better and better. and I didn't love it
Watching the main character pull random abilities out of his ass to win every fight took me out of the show. It works in something like jojo because it’s already so random and insane, but if you are trying to make something more serious you can’t get away with that
i don’t even think it’s that huge of a problem with jjba. of the main animated characters, Jotaro is really the only one that gets a powerful asspull ability. Giorno got a power up too, but it wasn’t just out of nowhere to win the fight, it was given to him by the stand arrow that was already established in the scene and was also shown to give stands a stronger ability, as displayed by scr. i can’t remember much of phantom blood so idk if Jonathan had any tho. either way, most fights in jjba are won by taking their already established abilities (and taking advantage of the environment and the enemies weakness) and utilizing them in new ways to outsmart the enemy in bizarre and clever ways.
@@man-wv8xj Yeah, that's why Jojo is so unique, it's strategy no matter how weird or bizarre it is, they always find a way, even if some characters are dumbed down to not even realize their stand's full capability
Jojo also has other elements that make them unique and not really being able to compare it to other kinds of anime. Soooo much of demon slayer I feel like I have seen most of it before
I feel like people have a really hard time admitting the things they enjoy might be average and/or just not that good. The Star Wars prequels are bad movies, I still love them. Bleach, DBZ, and Naruto are all filled with repetitive and cliche writing flaws, yet they're some of my favorite series of all time. I really enjoy Dragon Ball Super even though its riddled with all types of issues. Assassins Creed Valhalla is probably one of the most bloated and unnecessary AC installations in the series, but I can't get enough of it. I could keep going for a whole shit load of animes, movies, musicians, etc.. But the point is that it's okay to enjoy something, while still acknowledging that it might not be the greatest thing in the world. Demon Slayer is really just an average series, and if it's your favorite series then that's awesome.
If something should be 'the greatest thing in the world' to exist, not much would exist 😂 I just enjoy how most of the most ruthless critics of all the things... couldn't create anything if their life depended on it, even something terrible.
@@allaccordingtoplan5560 The thing is every fanbade has fans that call there shit the best thing since sliced bread. You're lying to yourself if you don't think a Bleach fan has not ever praised Bleach ad a masterpiece(especially when it was at its peak around the 00's). Your argument is pretty weak
It feels like I am in a parallel universe. Everyone was talking about how good this was and how interesting and sad each demon's story was I read it, and found out that it really was basic
Omg exactly. It was so basic and I don't get why people like it so much? It didn't make me feel anything. I was just irritated through out the whole show. There are much more sadder anime out there so I guess I was getting tired if animes trying to be "sad and emotional".
Literally the whole show’s purpose feels like it’s trying so hard to be as emotional and epic as possible as quickly as possible. Like nobodies ever fleshed out enough for me to actually care, the pacings too quick and there’s barely any time to get to know the characters behind just the general traits they have for the plot Like for me just because a scene makes an audience cry, it doesn’t immediately make a story complex and good! Any random background character can make the audience cry as long as they get a last minute sudden “tragic backstory” accompanied by an emotional soundtrack and beautiful visuals.. Atmosphere seems to be the only important thing. Style over substance kinda thing.
Daki was able to kill 7 hashira in the past but Zenitsu and Inouske somehow overpower her. So does this mean that both of them are hashira level? The power scaling is so poorly done.
1 demons get stronger over time and as they eat 2 she never confirmed wether it was a hard battle and if gyutaro was involved 3 zenitsu and inouske are pretty good slayers atp along with tengen already weakening her
well, when daki killed the other 7 Hashiras they probably came alone, so Daki + Gyutaro and that gimmick that they only die if you kill both makes it extremely hard for even a Hashira to deal with them. (since in the end theyre still upper moons) so in this scenario it was very possible for Zenitsu and Inosuke to deal with her since not only it took combined effort of 2 already pretty skilled demon slayers but tengen and tanjiro were dealing with Gyutaro. PS: Also daki isnt really that strong on her own, since we saw how tengen easily beheaded her like 3 times i think without even putting effort, so zenitsu and inosuke were definetly good enough to deal with her but even then they still struggled.
The show and manga fall into the category of "good enough for mainstream appeal". It has good art, ok writing and in the anime's case, fantastic music, but outside of that it's nothing special or even above average. It's fine.
That every shonen that why that called the fall under the same cliches your just figure that out now the same the main character is a orphan or one or both parent die the master get killed a close comonrade get killed the main character has to avenge his death power of friendship master dies the main character his to get stronger the fight the final villian in the end where has your been for last 20 years duh that every shonen that almost the same every main character want to be the strongest pirate,ninja,hero ,magician you name it you just noticing these cliches
@@sebastienparent9964 I didn't just notice it, I just don't like how it's executed. Invincible has a tone of clichés and it's still good. Same for Iruma kun. It's execution that I care about, something this show doesn't do all that well.
Well, I can understand. As a Fan of Demon Slayer, I can understand that its very underwhelming and overhyped, Personally, it's not just Demon Slayer, I believed My Hero Academia had that same way somehow. But, if anyone doesnt like it, I respect it. As one said: "No one is gonna always like the same thing, people have their own Likes and Dislikes." Edit (2021): Wow, 1.5K likes! Thank you very much for the Likes! You guys are awesome!
I think killing all the lower moon should have happened after the mugen train arc, where Muzan would have killed them because even the strongest one was defeated so easily.
I feel like the sheer amount of siblings that Tanjiro and Nezuko had before they all got murdered does serve to emphasize how lonely they ended up and how the other sibling is all each of them has left. I don't think we had to know every of the other siblings to understand Tanjiro and Nezuko's desperation to survive together.
No that's like saying I should give a damn about Fairy Tail Guild members just because they're there. If there is no emotional connection and just 2 minutes of screen time then how am I supposed to know the rapport of the family? How can I understand the joke about Tanjiro grand standing for Nezuko's beauty if I don't know what personality she has? Despite that it's still a breathe of fresh air on sibling dynamics in anime.
It also harkens back to these large Japanese families that popped up after they opened up. So having that large, happy family get reduced to two members hurts. It also reminds of that scene in Fushigi Yuugi where Tamahome's large family gets massacred by an angry twat with a grudge.
@@mr.unknown731 I mean, we still feel sad with the fact that they're ultimately children, and they had to die so young. And like imagine that you used to live in a house with so many other family members, then one day, you're alone.
I understood this was the reason as well, but despite knowing Tanjiro’s “alone” (without his family, I mean) I still cannot bring myself to feel sad for him or care when he thinks of his dead family members. For example, in the train arc I think we should’ve felt how hard it was for Tanjiro to leave the dream, but despite knowing how he felt I couldn’t empathize and that made that scene, as well as others, feel pretty flat. Maybe things could’ve been better if the anime had spent the whole first episode showing us a touching moment in the Kamado family, or anything more than the short conversations we saw
@@Tamaki742 Except that doesn't pull viewers into the story of media whose genre is littered with those same type of backstories. We just brush it aside cause we don't get the exposure of what connections Tanjiro built with his family and how that is now gone. One anime that did a great job in explaining a character's ties with his family despite us only getting exposure of such rapport in just that 1 episode out of the whole series is Subaru from ReZero season 2. Him taking Echidna's test and finding the flaws about himself looking back at his past life.
The demonslayer swordsmith movie lmao. Literally an hour of the previous arc AND THE FIRST EPISODE OF SWORDSMITH VILLAGE. absolutely criminal. Literally made me drop the show, have not and will not continue watching the anime (but i did end up reading the manga before the swordsmith village movie thing) and it was alright 7/10 but if i had to choose without the option 7 id say a 6/10.
I think it lives up to the hype. People where saying it had amazing animation and soundtrack. Nobody said it had Shakespeare writing. In my opinion the hype lives up to what people say.
@@HH04_ episode 19 is so underwhelming in a story telling perspective I was waiting for the good shit until the ending song came. But it was very enjoyable.
I think it's even better and kind of underhyped now because people are making these kinds of videos which are making others feel like they need to agree.this anime is actually really good, like I didn't consider putting this into my top 3 anime from the first few episodes, but around episode 19 or 20,i really liked this and it was really just better than any other anime I had ever seen. I truly love demon slayer and I can't understand why people don't like it
Another problem I have is that Tanjiro is perfect. He has no character flaws at all and doesn’t grow even at the end of the manga. He’s so freaking likable there’s nothing wrong with him. I cringed during the scene (without getting too detailed cus i don’t want to spoil it) where someone sees what inside his mind is like. All peaceful and cute and clear and I was like this is the same mf that came home to his family being torn apart and blood everywhere. That happened not too far after the beginning of the series. Wtf. He has no depth. Imagine this, imagine if since he saw such a horrible fate of his family, he developed a fear of blood. Every time he sees or smells it he has ptsd moments about when he found his family. This hinders him and leaves him vulnerable in fights. Imagine if we saw him slowly but surely overcome this fear, imagine how much better that would be. But fuck no. We had to get a shallow character who’s likable, but still shallow asf. I should write my own manga dammit
He's a demon slayer, him getting PTSD every damn fight is bland. I don't see how he's shallow and you clearly don't read the manga if you think he didn't grow at all. Have you skipped all the scenes he let his rage get to him or basically switched personalities? He also expresses hate and disdain towards some demons in the manga. It seems to me like you're just a yes-man or have an uninformed opinion.
While that is fair, he's like a superman/steve rogers type character.. Pure and sincerely good.. He makes up for this by at least paying a price in the end.
@@bdorage i'm not saying it's a flaw.. I agreed with the OP. I said that characters like that exist because he was framing it as if it was impossible to have characters like that. It's not as if Tanjiro is the first.. Hell even Goku is a pure protagonist..
I love Demon slayer, but it is filled with anime cliches, just admit it. Some "beautiful moments" are ruined by the overdone dialogs, the anime is filled with convenience plot-fill purposes, the MOST obvious "This character has a tragic backstory, now feel bad for them" backstories that I have ever seen. Almost everyone's backstory is "Demon killed their family", there were not ANY other depths to the characters, to the point where you can't even emotionally connect with the characters. The death of major characters in Demon Slayer is about as impactful as a minor death of a character introduced in the exact same episode in any other anime. The character designs are also painfully bugging, you can tell who'll die and who won't just based on that ITSELF.
Agree, but they way you worded this is kinda funny. Like, how else would you expect a character to be sympathetic if not for sympathetic portrayal lmao?
@@unioneye1087 TLDR in the end. There are many ways to do a sympathetic portrayal. Demon Slayer's feel forced down your throat, like the anime is telling the audience "Hey, this character is tragic, FEEL BAD FOR THEM!!" For example, one of the characters randomly goes "Hey, I know you have lung cancer, but that doesn't mean you can slack off!" and the main character goes "Wait, he has lung cancer...? He's not evil after all, he just wants to cure his own illness!! It must be terrible for him!" See? The dialog is there, just for that reason, as if the invisible viewer is there. That's bad writing. You shouldn't tell a story, you show it. I think you should try watching Tokyo Revengers. Budget not nearly as high as demon slayer, which bothered me, but the plot is amazing, and there are many characters you can actually sympathize and connect with. Unlike in Demon Slayer, where you just... Can't emotionally connect with the characters. Everything feels like a big fancy set up shown to you. TL, DR : I'm not saying sympathetic portrayal itself is bad, Demon Slayer just does it VERY badly.
@@ellahere2300 Yeah i understand, you even make good points here, it's just that your initial comment was worded really weirdly in my eyes, lowkey gave me the impression of someone just following the crowd with their criticism (I don't think you are now tho). And btw yeah i actually have watched TR, i was even on it just before it boomed. Imo it was downright amazing right till the recent manga arcs, which have been kind of downhill for me, especially after a certain out of left field backstory. Though i don't remember anyone with lung cancer in KnY.
@@unioneye1087 That was an example, I do remember in the KNY movie, someone had an illness, and that's exactly how it played out. I do agree that my initial comment could be misleading since I wrote it in a rush, but I fixed it a little so I hope it's fine now
@@ellahere2300I actually just watched the movie yesterday and got reminded on who you were talking about. I read the manga, but i guess he was just really forgettable to me there or something. And yeah, after you pointed it out to me here it feels so blatant to me how sympathetic they want him to look now that it’s kind of surprising i didn’t also feel like this wayy then when i read it for the first time. Though i guess he also left such a small impression on me that i forgot anyway lol.
I love Inosuke I truly do but they definitely could have come up with a more believable way for him to have survived being stabbed, rearranging his organs is so convenient and just feels like a child making up new powers for their doll just to defeat their friends powers
@@PersonaAmericanashit up don't besmirch JoJo's amazing fights with demon slayers they don't do shit like that and when they do it's something that makes sense like jotaro stopping his own heart
i mean they show u he’s extremely flexible in the show 💀 bro literally dislocated all his joints at one point, it’s also jus a fictional story so either way who cares.
People call this anime the greatest of all time when AOT and HxH exist and nobody hyped the anime until episode 19 and I know this because I watched it when it first aired. Ufotable carried this series. If it had bad animation it would've gotten clowned on
Some people just look at the animation and they imidientely love it, when I hear people saying DS is amazing and their main point is the animation I think: "If Boku no Pico had a gorgeous animation would it be considered a good anime?"
NEWS FLASH: Animation carries ANY anime that is literally the definition of animation. Ppl would clown on any anime with bad animation, look at Berserk it's a masterpiece of a manga but it's anime is shit. I feel it's perfectly fine to enjoy an anime because of it's animation, not every anime needs to reinvent the wheel and be this philosophical thought provoking masterpiece. There's nothing wrong with just good old fun fantasy adventures guys.
@@mysteryman9488 so your saying it dosen t matter how mediocre or bland it is as long as it ha a good animation it s a good anime i see u going with the crunchyroll formula give all awards to the flashy shallow anime DS jujutsu kaisen MHA GOH And forget about actuall good anime AOT mob psycho and ither good anime
@@lordmoncef5494 When did I ever say Demon Slayer is better than AOT or Mob Psycho just because it has better animation? I simply said Demon Slayer is a perfectly enjoyable show, it might not have a groundbreaking story but it's still enjoyable and definitely a good anime no matter how you look at it the animation is gorgeous and the soundtrack is beautiful those are objectively what makes a good anime, you trying to diminish all the work that was put in it and call it a bad anime just because you don't like the story, are you hearing yourself? Also Attack on Titan and Mob Psycho have amazing animation are you blind dude? Show me an example of a good anime that has bad animation and maybe I'll give it to you, you can still enjoy a anime with gorgeous animation but you can't sit through a show with terrible animation no matter what kind of story it has, want an example try watching Berserk 2016.
What bugs me is the part of why Tanjiro and the survivors of the Final Selection has exceptional senses. Tanjiro- smell Insouke- touch Zenitsu- hear Kanao- sight Genya- taste(technically he has the power to gain temporary demon abilities when eating demons) It was never explained about this.
It's funny how people with good traits are the ones that survived, isn't it? It's almost like only the best were able to come out alive. Also Insouke wasn't in the Final Selection.
Also like, none of the female characters have any actual character? Nezuko is just a goal for tanjiro to work towards for. The female hashiras have almost no screen time, the other female demon slayers are really just there to give praise to Tanjiro, and the female demons have like 1 personality trait and are there for pure fanservice. Every male character, including the one-off demons, get character arcs and even backstories but the female characters are mostly there to make the guys look cool and for fanservice (Best example I can give are Uzui's wife, have like 1 personality trait each and are supposed to be amazing ninjas in their own right but their introduction is having to be saved by 15 year old kids)
no? i can agree that mitsuri is a flat character and nezuko is just a goal to tanjiro work towards for, but Shinobu (the insect hashira) has a clear motivation, interesting personality and a good amount of screen time (counting the manga). Tamayo isn't the best but has a clear motivation and a cool bond w Yushiro (also shes a badass but that doesn't make a good character), and i can say the same for Kanao :[ I wish i could praise the female upper moon but only her backstory is interesting +basically shared with her brother, so meh. ( edit: but if ur a anime watcher, i can see why u think shinobu and kanao are flat )
that depends on what kind of motivation you mean. Mitsuri just wanted to fit in and be happy, I don't see what is wrong with that, she doesn't need to be a tragic backstory like the rest of them you know, so of course she is going to not be as complex as the others. Shinobu was quite the complex character (by kny standards), and so was lady Tamayo even though they had so little screen time. there is literally the biwa demon who I don't know where you got the fanservice from but ok, and if its about daki 1)shonen 2) she is literally a prostitute. I could agreee on KAnao and Nezuko being bland though they did have a few changes throughout the story, with nezuko being more humanized and Kanao being more expresive. overall if you want development, go read the light novels of kimetsu no yaiba, they explore the personalities of shinobu, kanao, aoi, mitsuri and a few others like kanae.
For me, Nezuko has the least personality and motivation out of the entire cast, yet she's the deuteragonist of entire series. There are many examples of mute characters that still have personality, yet Nezuko was written so poorly she's practically an inferior Tanjiro. If she wasn't as cute as she is, she wouldn't be nearly as popular and loved.
I actually have harsher things to say about Nezuko. It's not that she just doesn't have a character, she just reads like fetish bait or something. Why can't she talk? Other demons talk, so why not her? Why doesn't she want to eat human flesh? Like I recall her being exposed to a fresh corpse early on and Tanjiro just buries them without her even wanting to get a nibble. I mean, it'd be pretty great for the story if she just wound up scavenging found corpses later on. If she can control her appetite so well, why does she even have a gag? She does so much damage to the world-building around demons just by existing. There were also other directions you could take her. She could've been borderline feral, ya know, actually a problem for Tanjiro who is bullheadedly holding onto a girl who has been dead for a long time. Or she's either vaguely or fully aware of her condition. But she's neither of those things. And we don't actually know who Nezuko was before she turned. Who actually was Tanjiro's sister? What was her personality? She's just a moe-bait character with a gag who never has opinions, never incites any interesting conflicts and isn't actually Tanjiro's sister? So . . . she's just an idealized blob? A girl who just shuts up and does nothing except when convenient for the plot? What am I supposed to take from that except that it's weird that anybody likes her this much as a waifu?
I brought this stuff up recently in conversation and "apparently" the gag is to prevent any blood, accidental or on purpose, to enter her mouth. Because she's the only demon to have not yet tasted human blood and that somehow makes her more able to be reverted. I guess? Still doesn't explain how she doesn't need to eat anything and just sleep. Sleep is used to do cell work and stuff, it doesn't generate energy to function like food intake does. Or why she can't just be stronger than normal feral urges. You know, every other demon acts sentient and speaks, why can't shes just be inherently good natured despite the situation? Honestly, it's just a means to avoid writing the otherwise most potentially interesting character. You can switch her out with a dog and nothing in the story changes.
@@amandaslough125 im pretty sure it was said that she was a special case. I think i saw something about her being a hybrid due to her not wanting to eat human flesh and her being more in touch with her human side than other demons
I completely agree. She's made specifically to get the plot moving. She's boring, personality-less, and she's the deuteragonist! Other Anime can make "I change the world and get the plot moving" characters much better her.
As much as it hurts to admit, I 100% agree with everything you said. I did care about some of the characters so I kept reading the manga but I felt so drained and unsatisfied when it was over.
They didn’t know how to deal with any characters developing so they just rushed to the end of the show made main charecter god mode powers then killed every character
@@theveganduolingobird7349 There ain't no godmode bruh Tanjiro lost his fucking arm, almost turned into a full demon for good, Giyuu lost his arm, Nezuko almost died, Kanao went blind in one eye, and over half the remaining Hashiras got wiped and reincarnated.
Ok- here’s what I think. Shows can get hype and be popular and still be decent, but even if a person likes a show they shouldn’t call one show the “best” or a “masterpiece” Seriously, why are so many people so obsessed online about finding the best anime when all of it is subjective? Sure, anyone can say “I like this so it is my favorite” but it’s weird how people try to say “this is the best one, because I said so and anyone who disagrees is just a hater” Seriously people, there can be multiple good anime’s, there doesn’t always have to be only one anime at the top, there can be multiple (and some people might not even know about the good a lot of the good ones out there) Btw this is coming from someone who likes demon slayer, but still understands why some people might dislike it because there are a lot of obvious issues that are heavily overlooked because of the intense fanbase, and it definitely isn’t the best, but I still consider it enjoyable upon first watch (after my second watch it kinda started to feel alright but nothing groundbreaking because it’s quite formulaic) I kinda consider it a starter anime, since it’s short and new.
SAO embodies what you just said. Someone in a comment section was like a “SAO IS A MASTERPIECE.” And I was like, “I like it personally but it’s not a masterpiece. After that someone else came into the conversation and said just because it has flaws and you don’t consider it a masterpiece doesn’t mean that it is one. In my head in like, wtf? I should ask that person why he thinks it’s a masterpiece actually and see his reaction
Re:ZERO is my personal masterpiece, since the beginning it has fit my tastes to a tea and has never disappointed me with it's colorful and layered cast, expanding world, and rollercoaster of hell and hope. I think when most people say smth is a masterpiece they are just giving the highest praise they can to a show. It's all just opinions anyway.
Yeah even my favorite anime of all time Hunter x Hunter I still don't consider a masterpiece(mainly because it's still technically unfinished). I gave Demon Slayer a 2nd chance and thought it was pretty decent, nothing groundbreakingly special but I think it can still be enjoyable from what I watched so far.
CheetoVA hm, I understand where you are coming from! I think we both might have different opinions of what the word masterpiece is but if you want to use the word that way I can’t really stop you from it! :) I’ve never seen re:zero (although I have gotten it recommended to me a lot so I might check it out sooner or later) but in my mind, a masterpiece is something that is so close to greatness that it is almost perfect. But in my opinion, I don’t think there is ANY show out there that is 100% resistant to critique or void of flaws, even my favorite things ever. (For example I might like apples, but that doesn’t mean that everyone around me has to like apples too, they might think apples are too sweet) Now that I’m thinking about it though- the word “masterpiece” itself is subjective too, because originally it was used exclusively as the term for “a piece of work by a craftsman accepted as qualification for membership of a guild as an acknowledged master.” But I guess nowadays it is simply just a term for something with excellent craftsmanship, so I guess language just changes with the times based on how each person interprets it. (For you it seems like a masterpiece is something that gets you invested in the characters, while I might think a masterpiece is something that has no plot holes, good art, and interesting themes and messages that I can think about later, but you can do what you want and I can think what I want! :)) Also sorry if this wasn’t clear earlier, but my original comment was more focused on those small subset of fans in every fandom ever that feel the need to put their favorite show on a pedestal while also dragging down other shows in the process (for example I see some people say “xyz” is trash, blah blah blah, “abc” is so much better and the best so therefore it is the only good thing out there) because for some reason people nowadays think something needs to be flawless to enjoy something?? Like people should be able to like a show without having the label “masterpiece” because at the end of the day, people can like/dislike a masterpiece regardless of the label and people can like/dislike a non-masterpiece despite its label as well. Either way thank you for being respectful with your original reply and also thank you for reading 2 of my long rambling messages! I really appreciate you at least hearing me out for a bit even though we might disagree on some things. :)
People are overhyping DS, it has an outstanding visuals and artstyle is appealing but besides that...there's not much things I can say makes it worth check out, I'm pretty sure if Fairy Tail got the same animation and artstyle less people would targetting as a joke. And While I also think MHA is overhyped the difference between My Hero and Demon Slayer is that I actually remember most of the names of the characters and their personalities and I like MHA more, it's by no means perfect but it's fun and I like it a lot, but man the fanbase is one heck of a trashpile (tho that doesn't affect me and my liking for the show, I don't think we should judge the show (or characters) by the fanbase)
I love MHA and Naruto and i recognize their HUGE flaws Naruto ALL OF SHIPPUDEN MHA Bakugo, Mirio not being the protagonist, The ending of the Overhaul arc , Too much training arcs, Etc. And i have more but i just can't bring myself to not like them Naruto is nostalgia because it was the first anime ive ever seen and MHA because it has that Magic that is callled Personality I know their flaws but even if i see them right in the face i will still love them And if you hate those shows then do it I just i don't really think any show in general is overated Everyone likes what they likes and sometimes a person gets lucky that their creation found and reached the right audience at the perfect time SAO wouldn't be as popular if it came out like in 2018 because then they would be thousands of shows with the same style but it's popular because it was the first to do it and reach a mainstream audience. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
The worst thing about the Demon Slayer ranks is that only the Hashira rank is used all the time, we never see a character who is below hashira and above Tanjiro and is both mentioned their rank and shown their feats to be big, nothing, this makes the Demon Slayer corp feel shallow, makes the worldbuilding feel weak
I mean he's right on most parts. I've always felt the muzan fight went the way it did because the mangeka wanted to make the fight feel more like a desperate scramble to defeat him (as they'd written themselves into a corner with him being so overpowered) but i liked it that way. Upper moon 1 fight is definitely the best fight in the whole series without a doubt
The sad thing is, so much things go unexplained when the world-building is really the one of the most simple ones I have ever seen. And the sadder thing is, most of them is either due to the mangaka trying too hard to give a character a "cutesy" trait, or the mangaka refusing to kill off a character.
The only thing I didn’t like in this anime and manga included,was tanjiro,hes devoid of any real flaws,he’s a Gary stu personality wise,he’s just a saint,it doesn’t feel like I’m watching a real human,atleast zenitsu has a personality as much as people think he’s annoying
Zenitsu 100% makes the story worst. I can't take the series seriously when half of the anime is his stupid, unfunny interations with the main cast which ruins any and all tension the series had.
@@jackmayor3574 it’s less the fault of the actual character and more the fault of the writing,you can write a character being coward and a bit of a perv and make him likeable,zenitsu I liked him,I liked the idea he brought,did I find him annoying and unfunny?yes but to me an annoying character is better than a boring and bland one,who tanjiro definitely is
@@volonidminus which is why,it’s the fault of the writer not the character himself,she butchered his character development he just one day decided to be serious and that’s it,she could’ve made all her character so much better more like humans with flaws,i find zenitsu more human because he has flaws,tanjiro doesn’t hes just perfect and a Saint
I feel like Demon slayer is an example of an underrated series being put on the put light and then turning into overrated. Like many people keep on how underrated Demon slayer was to the point it got really popular. But as the series continues people who checked the series out started asking "why is this so popular" and then demon slayer became overrated.
Same thoughts too. I remember reading it on Viz before the anime even came to fruition. It was good but nothing really happened for me until the last three arcs. Back then, I thought to myself, "Hmmm. I wonder if these scenes got animated". Then BOOM, an anime adaptation got announced. It was very underground until Episode 19 came out.
Dude how many manga/anime do you know? Demon Slayer is something that has already been done lots of time in manga/anime history. There's nothing new. It's not bad at all, but it's not that great. So yes, it's overrated expecially by people that don't know much about it.
I remember watching the first training bit and seeing Nezuko basically be like "aight, ima be asleep conveniently so you can train" and it just immediately taking me out of the moment. Like, oh boy, it sure is convenient that you suddenly have all this time where you don't have to worry about your demon sister going crazy and killing people. Even beyond that, it really just takes any agency away from her as she's just a McGuffin to be put on the shelf when it's inconvenient for her to be around. Like, boy, I sure hope she doesn't randomly go into another 2-year coma the next time she fights
@Itsurboyroy Hugs she’s not exactly immune to the sun because that’s the whole reason why she’s in tanjiro’s box: to block the sun. she also went into a coma because when she first got transformed into a demon she used A LOT of her strength and the only way for her to increase her strength without eating people is by sleeping. Now why it was 2 years, I don’t know haha. I think the reason she’s op is “power of friendship” or in this case “power of brother sister bond” which isn’t a very good reason. Imo I think demon slayer is a pretty good anime but definitely overhyped and definitely isn’t the masterpiece that people say it is (besides the beautiful animation)
@@vera_7074 That person is further along in the story than you. They are right, and spoiled it. The first sentence you wrote is wrong. Do you not read manga? I just spoiled myself on wiki awhile ago.
One thing that I didn’t like about the first training arc was how they show Tanjiro going through all of these exercises of being alert and learning how to breathe and such but then in his first fight we see him pull off a water technique where the animation is great but I was also left confused. They never showed him doing any kind of water techniques during that training arc and that’s why it let me so confused. It would be like watching Rocky during his training arcs when he builds up to fight his big opponent and then in the middle of the fight pull a Kamehameha. When the hell did he learn that and why didn’t they show that during the arc? Seems like a pretty important thing to me.
Tanjiro: -Tries to do everything moral -Has some hidden potential that comes out when the plot demands it -Loves his sister more then anything else -NO PARENTS? wow, original
Another thing that shows the tremendous amount of wasted potential is definitely the concept of good demons. I mean, it's been shown that demons can retain their humanity even after the transformation, and as long as Muzan doesn't have too much control over them or someone manages to break his curse. Like with Yushiro and Tamayo. So, why didn't Kagaya hire Tamayo to create some sort of division to convert the injured or dying slayers into demons? Sure, that would have been quite risky, but it would have definitely proven to be pretty beneficial for the organisation, as they would have probably lost far fewer soldiers. Heck, even Kagaya could have been turned into an artificial demon like Yushiro to prevent him from dying since that would have allowed him to give a hand to the remaining pillars and the main cast in the final battle against Muzan, instead of simply blowing himself up alongside his wife and children.
I've just finished season one and I think my biggest annoyance with Demon Slayer so far is the treatment of Nezuko. She's one of the most severely underused characters in the show, despite being arguably the most important in terms of plot development, and I think that's largely due to the fact that Inosuke and Zenitsu started to take up way too much screen time per episode. They're occasionally funny characters who do little more than fuck with the tonality and even so far as undermine the integrity of the writing with the seemingly endless amount of slapstick they provide. They're needed comic relief at certain points, I realize, but there is such a thing as overkill and, in my opinion, the episodes that focus more on the Tanjiro/Inosuke/Zenitsu dynamic feel far more like filler than plot and just weren't as interesting to me. Inosuke and Zenitu's presences tend to interfere with the development of the most important aspect of Demon Slayer: the relationship between Nezuko and Tanjiro and their ever-changing circumstances. I think giving more screen time to the side characters did offer some positives but because it's a relatively short season of episodes in which to do that, it ultimately came at the cost of reducing Nezuko to little more than a symbolic presence rather than the deuteragonist I was hoping she'd be. I think it would've been more interesting to really see her abilities evolve alongside Tanjiro and possibly remove her muzzle in one of the later episodes to highlight how little of a threat she poses to humans.
From the pilot I thought that Nezuko would be challenged more, split between her humanity and demon blood. Tanjiro would then have to grapple between protecting Nezuko from humans and protecting humans from her. But no tanjiro and Nezuko are just perfect and wholesome. I don’t think you can really blame inosuke and zenitsu for that, the two had become so boring that they needed more extravagant side characters to contrast them.
also , i still love demon slayer , but i have to give this guy credit , he watched the entire season and read the entire manga before forming an opinion, that’s amazing 😔
My only gripe I had with the manga is it just felt rushed. The biggest stand out for me is Obanai his back story just felt like it was just put in there just to give him a backstory. If the manga didn't feel rushed I think I would've liked obanai and the later characters more. The only late charater I like is Sanemi but we had an idea what Sanemi's backstory was because of Genya.
@@kinoo4496 i would agree with that but Koyoharu Gotōge once said one of the inspirations for Demon Slayer was Araki and since that clearly has nothing to do with the artstyle I think this is funny.
@@craftihlow69 there's nothing to agree or disagree about, they are onis lmao just because he took inspirations from jojo and they have one or two vampire-like characteristics doesn't mean they're vampires
@@kinoo4496 They may have been inspired by blah blah, but they are basically vampires. Nothing to get angry about, just an unintended fact that the author didn't realize when write them. Also, it is more than one or two: They are both immortals humanoid beings with inhuman traits, supernatural abilities, who consume humans (Eating vs. Sucking blood isn't that different, it is still consuming parts of a human), and they both are weak to the same three things: sunlight, a special fragrance (garlic for vampires, wisteria for demons) and a certain metal (silver for vampires, Nichirin Swords for demons).
@@POIUYTREWQ62 to begin with, oni are humanoids beings with inhuman traits, supernatural abilities, who consume humans. so yeah, author added one or two vampire-like characteristics, as i said. they have so much more in commun with oni than vampire, and i don't even know oni well so it surely is more than i think, we're just ignorant to that because it's not our culture
My problems with Demon Slayer could be shortened to one sentence: *"It is not explained, doesn't mean anything or is an asspull."* I just want some consistency, I'm not asking for much, but I guess people nowadays just watch Battle Shounen for cool fights and the occasional comedic relief... P.S, good video mate.
I think the only problem with Nezuko's characterization is that although she is a deutragonist of the series, as the series progresses, she has become lazily writed character as a lot of things about her either aren't given satisfactory explanation or any explanation. *(SPOILERS NEXT)* At the begining of the series, it was explained that she was different from other demons, such as having her own will, getting stronger by sleeping instead of consuming human flesh and blood and developing immunity to the sun. These were explained logically within the series' own universe, already Lady Tamayo stated, Nezuko having managed to adapt herself in a two-year coma to develop immunity to the sun, means that anyone in Nezuko's case could do the same. But while other demons need time to master their Blood Demon Arts (For example Yushiro (he is different from other demons because he's a demon that he was made by Lady Tamayo) managed to master his Blood Demon Art in maximum two years, Kaigaku died without mastering his Blood Demon Art.) how Nezuko managed to master her Blood Demon Art first use, how she managed to activate her abilities just when she needed them, and how she managed to become a skilled fighter capable enough to fight even some Upper Moons hand-to-hand with no training or experience (she able to defeat some Upper Moon members in combat also makes her stronger and more skilled fighter than some Pillars of the past generations and Pillars are well versed in sword fighting and breathing techniques.) The fact that so much is either poorly explained with saying "Nezuko is different from other demons." or unexplained inevitably. Explaining that she can do so much simply by saying that she is different from other demons brings to mind the second question: "What's different about her?" On the other hand, i've read many theories about that the reason why Nezuko is different from other demons is because her family has a connection to Sun Breathing and i don't agree with this theory because Takeo, Hanako, Shigeru and Rokuta are Nezuko's biological siblings, so they too are descendants of those who inherited Sun Breathing (a.k.a Kamado family), but they (or at least one of these four) didn't survive and didn't turn into a demon, unlike Nezuko. This theory also brings to mind a question: "If Nezuko survived and became a demon because her family has a connection to Sun Breathing, why didn't her other four siblings do these?" Edit: In Kidnapper's Bog Arc, Nezuko displayed martial arts skills. Considering that the author's fans contacted them by letter, fans probably asked the author if Nezuko had been trained to learn martial arts, as a result, the author adjusted her fighting style to be simpler and more demonic for the rest of the series. In almost all battles, Nezuko starts out weak from her enemies, then comes to a point where she can fight them hand-to-hand, and even surpass them. This state of her was explained as her high growth rate because she's demon. But in ch. 127, Lady Tamayo explained that Nezuko's priority was to develop immunity to the sun. This situation presents the following problem; If Nezuko's priority is to develop immunity to the sun, demons other than her don't have that priority, but how can she have a higher growth rate than other demons, including most of the Upper Moons? I ignored Nezuko's situation at the beginning of the series as how demons work has not yet been adequately explained, but as the series progresses i realize that she is an exception even among exceptional demons; usually Tamayo and mostly Yushiro cannot fight hand-to-hand, but they are support and need to time and prepare to weaken their enemies; On the other hand, Nezuko can do anything and gain her powers and abilities in the middle of the battle, as long as related to the demons, with her anti-demon blood art she can do offensive attacks, nullify demons' powers and attacks, empower her allies' weapons to allow imitation of the Crimson Nichirin Sword, heal demon-related injures and poisons, also manipulate her blood to prevent her limbs from breaking off. (Sorry for my English.)
@@Name-jw4sj Because it shows a easy writting flaw that could have been fixed. I love DBZ but im not gonna sit back and say that everything was handled perfectly.
So basically nezuko is a Mary Sue because she's just built different 😂 never watched the anime or read the manga I will watch it but the author could have at least showed y'all nezuko train or something to explain how she is so op
Nicest thing tanjiro has ever done is mercy killing the 8th moons pretend mother with a clear water attack instead of a rapid water, when he realized she wanted to die. Which led to now pain but a calm somewhat happy death.
I'll be honest, reading though the Manga, some of the Character's storylines almost felt like the Mangaka was trying to say, in the most unrealistic way possible, "whats the most tragic backstory I can shove onto these characters?" (Akaza, Sanemi, etc) while some characters hardly got a memorable backstory at all (Muzan, Mitsuri, etc.). The story felt incredibly rushed in places. But I also find myself enjoying that it's not needlessly drawn out like One Piece or Naruto. But the characters that I love I REALLY love. Better than characters in most other anime like Shinobu, Tanjiro, and Tamayo. I was thoroughly surprised by the relevance of certain characters to the end of the manga and its still FAR better than many many anime.
I actually liked the tiny bit of Muzan's backstory near the end of the manga. Mostly to how he was linked to the idea of fighting against death. He wasn't some big over the top villain who wanted to reshape the whole world or someone who had his entire family killed in front of him he was just someone who was afraid of death. His little story about just barely living after nearly being a still born was a fascinating development and tied back to him not wanting to die.That manga panel where Muzan has come to the realization that despite everything he did to avoid it he was about to die, that is one of the best ways I've seen a shonen villain go out in my opinion. He even shed a single tear as the sun was about to kill him, that really made him more "human" and you don't see a lot of these final villains in shonen go out in such a vulnerable way.
@@fourule9629 I think it was just so he could have more eyes searching for the Blue Lily with which he could use to make himself unaffected by the sun.
@@mysteryman9488 he's like voldemort from Harry Potter. But I wish they had gotten into detail about HOW Muzan became a demon considering Tamayo and Shinobu were able to pull off some detailed feats of science. The explanation fell flat. And i wondered, are there other demons in other countries?
@@tensai_kodai In Demon Slayer's universe, it's possible. Doma and Rui were able to turn humans into demons with their blood like Muzan, and who's to say there wasn't a demon with that power who traveled elsewhere to spread the transformation.
I read the series before the anime came out and I could not believe how much love it was getting. Like Tangiro is a nice kid but he's so goddamn generic it's unreal- and the fights in general are just rushed to but dragged out far longer than they have any right. The pimp fight in the red light district comes to mind. Then it just *ends*. Like hard ends. There's like 3 major fights in the entire series and they launch their attack on the enemy base and *nothing goes wrong*. The villain fight lasts like 400 chapters because it's dragged out like everything else and then everyone lives happily ever after. It's so insanely shitty it's unreal and none of the side characters that die are ones that matter at all. Demon Slayer has good animation and that's literally it. The fact it beat out something like Mob Psycho is literally a crime.
the way how normal people and casual anime watchers really liked this show with good animation reminds me of how casual gamers shun games with old graphics and like ones with good graphics
@@ockertoustesizem1234 Or when a videogame has a fucking shallow and empty gameplay (Stray, Gris) they get praised for it, but when a videogame is complex and with depth (Monster Hunter, Death Stranding) they get criticized for it.
The fact that HxH had this whole development with Gon and Killua, is amazing. We could've had at least 10 to 12 episodes of a training arc. Something at least!
I think the death of Tanjiro’s fam and all the villain flashbacks are good examples of how often the story tries to tug on your heart strings. They were affecting in the moment for me, but outside of that shock value those story beats kind of lost their weight. Damn…now that I think about it, they could’ve spent time during Tanjiro’s 2-year training “arc” to focus on Nezuko for once. I guess that would’ve required them to actually write her like a character, instead of parading her around as the cutesy sister/waifu bait/plot device/mascot character/fuel for incest fics/etc. There’s no reason for Tanjiro to have met Kibutsuji so early, the mangaka really has a bad penchant for pressing fast forward on plot development… I can’t even fathom why they would introduce most of the Pillars as essentially variants of the same character: mindlessly loyal to their leader and ignorantly hostile to the protagonist. Their designs are so ridiculous that you’re practically waiting for them to die. At least if there had been an interesting relevance between their fighting styles and the outrageous powers of the Moons, there’d have felt like a genuine purpose to them. EDIT ONE YEAR LATER: I still stand by everything I said…but I don’t know why my language was so hostile back then lol, my bad 😅🙏🏾.
@@kraziscribbs4552Yeah fr. Considering how unfortunately HUGE the Pinecest fandom was, it's clear people will make fan content like that regardless of what is shown on-screen. You don't need to have incest bait or similarly questionable things for the fans to make that type of content anyway
How Tanjiro acted throughout the story made me forget about his family’s death. It really didn’t impact him that much, he was still the same even when his family was alive. I’m pretty sure someone coming back to their family’s corpses would traumatize and completely change them as a person, but in Tanjiro’s case, he just doesn’t? It’s infuriating how Gotouge sidelined Nezuko so much. She was the ONLY SURVIVOR in Muzan’s attack, how come she “doesn’t remember”? It would’ve been a great idea if Nezuko gained PTSD from that experience and learned to overcome it. It would’ve made her more interesting as a character. But NOOO, she has to be cute and awesome so she can be the mascot for the entire series, with no development WHATSOEVER. Nezuko is personally my favorite character, and I wish she was in the hands of an actual good author instead.
My problem is a lot of the missed opportunities that could have been explored with some of the characters, villains in particular. Spoilers below For example: I found that when Rengoku died I couldn’t really feel much because he was given so little screen time. It felt like we were being *introduced* to him when he died. There was a lot of missed potential for his character and while it’s fine to kill of characters early, it just didn’t feel right that he died so early to me personally. On top of that, Enmu had a really great introduction to his character and it kind of sucks he was just sort of killed off and forgotten about. It seemed like he was going to be a dark horse, a lower moon that knows exactly what to say and what to do to become an upper moon. Someone we could have seen developed into a real threat. But nah he’s just another demon to kill. These really interesting villains are treated like boss fights instead of actual characters so there’s barely actual development, other than sometimes “oh feel bad for their suffering” before being killed off. Its an extremely formulaic way of creating underdeveloped villains, making them like boss fights, and Demon Slayer does it so much. The problem with doing this to your villains (or antagonists) is that it can becoming really boring really quickly since THEY are the main threat and THEY directly impact the conflict, and outside of the KNY fanbase I notice a lot of people think it’s boring/formulaic/underdeveloped (bc the conflict’s stakes don’t raise or change much). I could also go on about Douma, or how it would have been cool to see more interactions between the demons, but that’ll keep my typing for hours. Oh and you already talked about Nezuko and so has everyone else. SHE was a missed opportunity for sure.
Nezuko was the biggest missed opportunity in the entire series. She's personality-less, blatantly overpowered, yet still one of the most loved characters somehow. She doesn't have a mind of her own and just goes along with Tanjiro because?????? I would have liked it if once they found a way to cure demons, Nezuko refuses the treatment because the wants to continue protecting her brother and by becoming a human she loses all her combat abilities. It provides Nezuko with an actual character arc, and provides an actual emotional obstacle that Tanjiro has to overcome.
@@vronji Shes the most loved- and so are many of the characters- because the designs are amazing, but the characters are bland. Like outside of how adorable she looks nobody really talks about her unless it’s to criticize how personality-less she is.
@@Grimexx955 I don't know. I watched the Anime version. Not the movie. And I cried so much. I liked Rengoku so much and the first episode of mugen train arc was completely for Rengoku. So I personally don't understand what you mean. Maybe you watched the movie version and its skipping something but the Anime did it perfect.
@@tomgu2285 not only did I watch the anime version and the movie version of the Mugen Train arc, I also read the manga. I’m happy that you found Rengoku’s death tragic and you enjoyed his character, I just personally think he could have been done a lot better. I also don’t think he was as badly written as other characters so it’s kind of eh whatever… it felt to me like his character arc was being introduced when he died and it’s whatever, he’s not an mc or anything which is why Nezuko and the villains made me more upset.
Ok, let me set that clear. Training arcs Are in General very boring, and the rush from the Mangaka is one of the few things I like about the Manga. HOWEVER, in HunterxHunter the Mangaka made a simple but genius thing, combining a Trainings arc with a Tournament arc, to give the Flexiblity & Action we need. It's an unique yet simple trick no one used so far.
Are you talking about the anime or the manga? because in the anime the training arc was perfectly done in my opinion. showing important parts while also making it not feel rushed, I mean jesus christ in 1 episode 1 year and a half passed, if you call that boring, you have the attention span of a goldfish
As someone whose read the entire demon slayer manga I feel like my time was just wasted. The series had potential but it was just so fast paced and quick to get to the end result that the ending didn’t even feel earned.
I watched that entire thing and realized by the end that I didn't even know why the main villain was the main villain. LOL. I've never heard of a more forgetable Final Boss. Fighting him is 10% of this entire story?! When I think of the hatred the main casts of their respective anime have for Naraku, Frieza, Father, Aizen, Madara Uchiha, the World Government, Kyubey, the Anti-Spirals, Emperor Charles vi Britannia, Satsuki's mom, Kira... I could go on and on. It's so fundamental to an action story. You WANT to see everyone beat those villains' asses. You want to see them lose for everything they put the heroes through. What was interesting about Muzan?!
Muzan is hated because, well, he takes life for granted. Like really, he slaughters Tanjiro's family in the first episode just because he was looking for the slayer with those special earrings. Throughout the show, you see why the demons are the way they are. He manipulates people to fall into the dark side and takes advantage of their trauma to further his own goals and power. He instills a sense of superiority amongst the demons towards the humans enabling their dark desires. Which results in, well, death and slaughter. Tanjiro is obviously the protagonist because of Muzan's connection to the death of his family, the corruption of his sister, and the history he had with his ancestor. But he also acts as the foil. Tanjiro is young, empathetic, compassionate, and loyal. Muzan is ancient, psychotic, manipulative, and uses people. See the comparisons? This ultimately leads up to the core theme of the show. _Empathy._ Tanjiro makes the effort to understand his enemies without forgiving their actions. That's why literally everyone has a tragic-ass backstory, to drive this point home. The difference between the Demon Slayers and the Demons they hunt is what they *do* with their trauma. Demon Slayers use their pain to empower and motivate them to protect others. Demons use their pain to hurts those that hurt them. And in doing so, Muzan stays at the top. Demon Slayer is the quintessential shonen as it hits *a lot* of the same tropes. Outside its stellar animation though, is a story of people overcoming trauma and pain to do-to be, something *more* than their past.
@@sanguis_aeternus-x I appreciate your elaboration. No one else mentioned that Muzan actually did kill the hero's family. XD I wrote this twice, and another conversation was had about it...
@@Cityweaver I mean even without the fact he killed tanjiro’s family, he’s the progenitor of the demons and the reason they exist in the first place. If you couldn’t understand why he’s the antagonist from the fact that he’s a thousand year old reject of nature that eats people and turns them into his minions so they can do the same, idk what to tell you.
@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf That I don't like stories about Chaotic Evil, irredeemable boogiemen that heroes can slay without any moral implications. Because it doesn't fit into my philosophy of what evil is. "He isn't supposed to exist, he's a reject of nature." *shrug* I don't know what to tell you, friend. I never believed nature didn't have destructive forces in it in the first place. I'm not judging hurricanes and volcanoes. There simply isn't anything interesting to talk about in a story like that.
@@Cityweaver *Well, for once, Demon Slayer does add an empathetic side to the demons that are killed. They never wanted to become demons in the first place, they were just another human turning into one. Whether that be a child, a sibling, a father, or mother. Yes, their actions aren't forgiven but the effect it has on the plot, backstory, and characters only make it more interesting. It's like making a lego build without knowing how it's going to turn out even though you have the instructions.* *Nature does have destructive forces. Floods, Volcanoes, Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Landslides, Earthquakes.. All of those things can be seen as destructive forces and yet what are they? A part of life/nature.* *We've seen countless stories about those tropes, but if done properly it can make it interesting. It's just too predictable. Yet, it's entertaining to say the least.*
most of your points are completely valid especially your issues with pacing and how we're never told about the other forms till we see them, but I still enjoyed demon slayer a lot and I found it really enjoyable, and aswell I see a lot of people shitting on the ending and while it had issues I enjoyed it I acknowledge it has a lot of flaws but I still love it
Demon Slayer did almost everything right, except for it’s writing and pacing (which isn’t so awful but it’s not great), honestly it’s easy to see why it’s so enjoyable. I personally don’t like the anime, but I can understand the hype, and i don’t think it’s bad.
@@sakuradabp6400 bad≠repetitive. Honestly if I was attached to the characters and it was at a good time I would’ve found it funny the first or second time.
Something I haven’t seen anyone touch on yet is nezuko being turned into a human again while the Muzan fight is happening. Muzans whole goal at that time was to get to nezuko and eat her and he never gets the chance because of the potion that “by the way we just brewed this up last night lol” there were basically no stakes because she already lost her demon powers. Such a letdown of a series.
It’s been awhile since I read the manga, but I remember Muzan being a mediocre villain. His relationships with Tanjiro, Nezuko, the corps leader, and his servants were very underdeveloped.
I watched that entire thing and realized by the end that I didn't even know why the main villain was the main villain. LOL. I've never heard of a more forgetable Final Boss. Fighting him is 10% of this entire story?! When I think of the hatred the main casts of their respective anime have for Naraku, Frieza, Father, Aizen, Madara Uchiha, the World Government, Kyubey, the Anti-Spirals, Emperor Charles vi Britannia, Satsuki's mom, Kira... I could go on and on. It's so fundamental to an action story. You WANT to see everyone beat those villains' asses. You want to see them lose for everything they put the heroes through. What was interesting about Muzan?!
@@babuebaguette7982 I would disagree. The ones you recognize are long. Some of the series on that list have 13-26 total episodes. Good writing can be long or short, ya know. I mean, by that logic, no movie villain is ever done well because you only spend 2 hours hating them. It sounds like Demon Slayer just didn't build a deep connection sense of injustice between the hero and the villain, the kind of emotion you keep thinking about after you put the book down. The villain wants to kidnap the little sister, and that's a fine motivation, to not want your little sister kidnapped, but it's not the deep emotional connection that one thinks of when talking about the MAIN villain of the entire story. Any mook can kidnap your little sister. Kyubey tricked the heroes into using the literal power of wishes to sign a cursed contract. Madara played a key role in continuing the cycle of violence that Sasuke and Naruto suffered. Father corrupted the soul of an entire nation, distorting the very meaning of alchemy. That's final boss of the entire series level hatred.
Although I love Demon Slayer, my biggest critique of the series is the hyperspeed pacing. WARNING:SPOILERS I wish they slowed the show down and put more "normal" demons before and after the start of the lower and upper moon fights. And I wish tgat Muzan didnt just kill off all of the lower moons and instead still had them as challenges in the story. Maybe after defeating Lower Moon 2 and Enmu fighting then escaping Tanjiro, he could then get his upgrade for Mugen Train Arc.
Muzan’s motive for killing the lower moons doesnt even make sense. Like, if the guy doesnt want the demon slayers to find out more about him through his blood then why the hell is he still making new demons?
@@LucasD08 eh, that still seems like a pretty dumb move for someone who is seemingly trying to lay low, considering he doesnt stick around to see how strong his demons are. Plus the fact that you even have to make a guess to explain his motives shows that they did a poor job of writing that part
Found many of your criticisms underwhelming, so here is a rebuttal to help with the crucifixion: *1) What is there to love beside the animation/fighting and soundtrack* Many have argued that the series refines the Shonen formula; and if so then it certainly shows with the explosive popularity and success. So merits you forgot to mention include great character designs, straight-forward story, a portaganist that is genuinely kind without being incredibly stupid/naive at the same time, lack of cringey power of friendship asspulls. Good story with a lot of potential + Great presentation = Great anime with the potential to stand with HxH with further seasons. *2) Demons not being common knowledge* Some people think demons exists while others consider them a myth; don't see the issue unless you assume that demons constantly leave a large amount of eyewitnesses escape (instead of eating them). Even low-level demons can move faster than what normal people can see. This makes immensely more sense than the existence of Nen somehow being a secret in HxH. The Ubuyashiki family and the Swordsmiths DO want to be secret; the Demon Slayer Corps almost got wiped out multiple times and had to rebuild; all it takes is a raid from top-tier demons to their HQ, so a publicly known government building doesn't help. Most people are useless for fighting demons, so demons becoming common knowledge would spread panic without helping. *3) Concise beginning arc and initial training* This is not a fault with the manga/anime; this is a neccessity for modern Battle Shonen. Nowadays a new manga in Shonen Jump have ~20 chapters to get an audience and sell well before it gets axe'd/cancelled. Hence there is a need to quickly get to the 'good parts', so the protaganists of a new Battle Shonen either gets a timeskip where they go from useless to stronger than almost everyone or they start the series already being strong. If this contributed to the success of the manga/anime, then it is a good thing. Plenty of people would find a detailed documentary infodumping the combat mechanics and story of characters who will immedietly be killed to be a waste of time and akin to fillers. *Bonus:* * There aren't instances of ghosts in the series: Um... there are plenty of ghosts communicating with characters in the series. * No explanation for why people wih Black Swords don't live long: It is explained. Black Swords are associated with people with affinity for Sun Breathing, and after Yoriichi died, Muzan and Kokushibou made sure to kill everyone who learned Sun Breathing. * No explanation for why Nezuko was sleeping: It is also explained. Tamayo said that Nezuko's ability to gain energy from sleeping, and her ability to not go berserk after not eating humans for a long time probably developed in her two years coma. Demons are shown to have adaptive evolution capabilities. Nezuko is possibly the first demon who survived for a long time without eating a single human, so she is special. * Flashbacks: They can be excused by Tanjiro and other characters being empaths who can sense other people's emotions, so this helps connect the audience with the characters; for instance Tanjiro senses a demon's sadness and the audience also feels sad after seeing a sad flashback. Furthermore, it is very relevant to the themes; Tanjiro feels the need to empathize with demons because he is empathizing with his sister who could've ended up just like them. *4) Lower Moon massacare* This is a good plot twist; this is a simple story, but too much lack of originality can break immersion where characters and plots are seen as tropes. This is not only a subversion of climbing a linear and progressive ladder of an evil organazation's squad, but it hypes up the Upper Moons, and it raises the stakes even further since Tanjiro will now have to deal with immensely more dangerous foes to achieve his goal. *5) Zenitsu* He is someone forced to fight demons (in his position most people would consider his cowardice to be sanity and justified self-perservation), but despite his cowardice he is still willing to fight demons and sacrifice himself for the sake of helping and saving others. Which is endering, and his flaws allows room for growth. Zenitsu is extremely popular among the Japanese audience (for instance, 2nd place in popularity poll), and is considered a much-needed comic relief in a dark series. So if he appeals to the target audience, then he is a well-designed character, even if you find the archtype annoying. Also, getting into a mental state where your body and senses get stronger is a mechanic that is explained in the manga called "Repetative Actions". Zenitsu's trigger has to do with his grandfather. -- Manga arc -- *6) Ranking* The Pillar meeting was shown in the anime (which is supervised by the Mangaka); it is explained that the traditional recruitment methods can't keep up with modern times; the population growth and frequency of demon attacks increased too much. So the ranking system is obsolete during the time of the series, and cultivators are undertraining untalented people in an attempt to satisfy the demand. You basicly have mostly fodders with a few talented people, and the top-tiers. So the Demon Slayer Corps is facing an uphill battle. It is explained that to be considered for the Pillar rank you need to kill a Moon; a volume extra also mentions that an other method is to have at least 50 confirmed demon kills (Himejima, the Stone Pillar, got his rank this way). *7) Demon power scaling* In the Pillar meeting it is mentioned that the current generation of Pillars is the strongest since the First Breathers (people who hanged around Yoriichi and were trained by him) which is why Kagaya is determined to be responsible for Muzan's defeat. An Upper Moon being as strong as three Pillars could refer to the average strength of Pillars throughout history; this doesn't mean that every single Upper Moon is stronger than every single Pillar who ever existed. Enmu's plan was to lure in a Pillar, and then get even stronger by eating ~200 passengers in one go. He probably can't access his full power while fused with the train. Tengen, the Sound Pillar, found UM6 sister Daki to be incredibly weak that he can't believe that she counts as an Upper Moon and casually blitz'd her. So being overwhelmed by Zenitsu's speed is not mindblowing. Furthermore, Breath users are consistently shown to be incredibly resistant to poison, even early on with Zenitsu and the Spider Brother; heck it takes days for Breath users to turn into demons and it is implied that they need to let it happen, but normal people turn within seconds. A magical water prison barrier that specifically blocks solid objects doesn't break logic, and one of the Swordsmiths has strength that exceeds Tanjiro, so learning super-breathing techniques (that allows breaking a reinforced giant gourd through breathing) is plausible. Akaza was just about to adap to being beheaded, but lost his resolve after remembering his past. Similar to Kokushibou being just about to adap to being beheaded, but losing his resolve after recalling his original goal of being a strong samurai and seeing the ugly form he took. *8) Nezuko's power* It is explained during the Rui fight that Nezuko's flames did not harm or burn Tanjiro, so her flames only burns demons. So it is plausible for her flames to only target demon poison (and yes, it is demon poison mixed within demon blood; he didn't consume man-made poison for it to be saturated within his blood). It is explained that the reason Muzan was creating demons in the first place is in hopes that one of them will adapt to the sun. So his Plan A was finding the Blue Spider Lily, and his Plan B was create a demon who will adapt to the sun. Supposedly, Nezuko's mental development was stunted because she was preparing to adapt to the sun the entire time according to Tamayo.
Props dude, props . Thanks alot for clarifying some of his points I really appreciate it. Thanks for giving the other side of the argument have a good day
1. In the video he said that he wasn't a fan of many of the characters, so while some people might found them great others might not, I myself wasn't very invested in most of them, I still can't rmember a lot of the names. 2. I agree, maybe he forgot about that while writting 3. I see what you mean but I stand with what he said, I don't like how the whole training didn't even took 2 episodes, I don't mind longer training arcs unless there's a lot of boring fillers, I think it should last at least a little bit longer Bonus: Maybe he didn't know these were ghost? Idk I honestly don't remember that, was it in anime? I remember finding this answer on some websites like quora I think he missed that when he was watching/reading at the beginning or maybe he ment something else...i dunno but he mentioned "that ghost kid" at that appears near end While I didn't minded these flashbacks at first when they were being showed like that few times I must say I agree with JS 4. I think that's kinda the issue because of that "simple story with lack of originality" it can be easily overlooked, I also saw it as something not really anything special or even a good plot twist. 5. I see what you mean but personally I also wasn't a fan of him, I like that "despite his cowardice he is still willing to fight demons and sacrifice himself for the sake of helping and saving others", I like that but I really didn't liked these scenes where he was like a baby, I can understand that japanese audience likes him but I wasn't a fan so I'm not gonna complain and just say I don't like him as much as japan portion of the fanbase. So I am with JS on that one honestly 6. I think it should be showed more because maybe that's me but I prefer ranking as an evolution of a character rather then how many you killed He mentioned that in the comment that he missed that because it was on one side panel, so I don't blame him for missing that, heck I also didn't known that completely (because I didn't read the manga) I was just guesting. 7. He also mentioned that in the comment about Enmu 8. Not gonna lie I also was kinda confused with that but mostly because I didn't known was that normal poison or demon poison I think the main issue is that fans and people on internet really are overhyping Demon Slayer so much that I also expected it to be great but in reality I think the show is mid tier, it's great for beginners but I don't think it's as great for others. It's still good and unique to other shonens but I wouldn't call it the "best"
@@husariuspl117 Authors don't have the luxury so spend so many chapters for exposition nowadays, they canceled Masashi Kishimotos new manga, one of the most popular manga authors of all time after 40 or so chapters because the legendary author of Naruto couldn't adapt with the current industry, Demon Slayer would've been axed if it spend 10 or so chapters for training at the start of the series.
@@husariuspl117 Also this "It's good for new fans but it's mid tier" argument is so absurd at this point, people used to say the same thing about Attack On Titan, plus if a series is good enough to attract everyone "not just a niche targeted audience aka hardcore weebs" that's a sign of good writing.
Well said. Every time the demon is killed there is a (supposed to be sad) backstory then tanjiro prays for them then the end. No complexity at all. Even the characters are plain af.
dude got roasted back in the day when this was first created, now he's visionary hahaha he warned us about how mid ds really is and is now being validated because of it
8:12 honestly I feel like the reason there wasn’t a proper training arc was more because how early this is in the series. But I definitely think they could have had at least 1-2 more full episodes of him when he first uses the breathing technique and him adjusting to it. Plus they could maybe had him really struggling to learn even the basics of water breathing which could have been a very early hint about how his Sun Breathing, since his body is essentially conditioned for Sun Breathing ever since his Father taught him the Hino Kami Kagura
Demon slayer is carried hard by the animation, quirky characters and the MC not being a dipshit making stupid mistakes for the sake of the plot. He is too perfect though
Here's the thing, it probably would of been better if the defeat of Muzan was half the manga and the second half focused on nezuko taking tanjiro's role in an effort to save her brother like how he did for her.
I enjoy the anime but the Manga honestly makes no sense. Saying that the breathing techniques aren't real , so how does Rengoku stop Akaza's punches with flames ? How does Zenitsu use his technique and multiple people saying they heard lightning struck? Also Tanjiro using the water style to stop his fall but it isn't real , like wtf ?The government ignoring Demon Slayer corps but Demons literally killing people, some in the 1000s like really? The time jump is terrible, the reincarnation shit makes literally zero sense and seems pointless. Every other demon was vindictive , except Nezuko which is fine but when you know who becomes a demon is immediately evil like wtf .
Rengoku blocked them with the blade but also zenitsus footwork setup takes the form of lightning cracking , Tanjiro probably lands his fall with the sword sane way he braised impact with the blade and tamayo was not a killer
@@barnowl2655 You’re in the whole comment section talking about how much you dislike demon slayer, like ok we get it C h i l l Also gurenge is a banger, can’t tell me otherwise.
I'm really starting to think that people mostly like Demon Slayer anime because of animation and artstyle and yes these 2 are some of the best I've ever seen but...I couldn't remember most of the characters, even after watching this video I still can't remember some of the names, heck when I was hearing them I was like: Oh yeah that was his name and then I forgot it again
How do you gauge what is "too much praise?" If it annoys you that there are people saying it is "the best thing ever" you can't fault them if it is the best show they have seen thus far.
14:08 This has got to be my biggest complaint about the entire anime I have ever had. The series was doing good/fine with its poqerscaling and story progression up until that one goddamn scene where Muzan kills almost all remaining Lower Moons. It feels like a destroyed build-up and that parts of the whole story have all been skipped altogether. It was from that point on that I recognized there was something really fishy with the future pacing of the series...
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Hey, just putting this here because apparently I got a few things wrong about the series and would like to address them here.
1. Apparently to become a pillar, you must slay 100 demons or kill an upper six demon moon. I didn't know this because it was in a one side panel that takes place after the chapter is finished.
2. Like I put in the * near the bottom of the screen, Akaza had more reasons for seeing his dead wife than just Tanjiros face
3. Enmu didn't unleash his true power because he got cocky and assumed he'd be able to eat the passengers which he didn't due to the others helping
Sorry for these mistakes I made. I genuinely meant no harm. And to be absolutely clear if I wasn't already, I don't think Demon Slayer is the worst thing ever. I don't like it (at least not the manga), but that doesn't mean you can't and I don't understand why others do.
no its a lower moon, not a upper 6 demon moon or what the hell ucall it..
also just say upper moons or lower moons and for each individual demon say like lower moon 1 or upper moon 3
I know you're expecting a comment telling you how your wrong but, I just want to thank you for giving your honest opinion in a respectable manner. I personally don't care if you or other people dislike something that I like. I do however, have a problem when reviewers make fun of fans of series they don't like.
To be completely honest as a demon slayer fan and with me read a large amount of the story I do understand, mostly with you saying little to nothing is explained about the characters or anything until after fights are over or certain training is over.
Just because something is popular doesnt mean its overhyped ED BOY
@@BruckerHouse It kinda is overhyped, well for me at least
Lmao that "character has a good family life then went off for a night comes back then discovered that family is murdered" trope occurs WAY too many times in this manga.
This show is BUILT on tropes
@@rompevuevitos222 Tropes aren't inherently bad. But the ones DS uses are bland and over used. The bigger issue is the sheer amount of plot contrivances.
@@remus4283 they kinda are when a character's personality is based around that. Orange kid whose name i refuse to remember is just the "horny coward" until he is asleep.
Then he literally flies like Superman (because apparently there is a magic system for humans that was never explained)
But while he is awake he is simply unlikeable
Tanjiro is a bit bland, but at least he isn't an intentional hindrance to everyone around him.
Michael Jackson:"i just smoked hu ha~ ur familyyyyy a HEHE~
@@rompevuevitos222 Ikr having Zenitsu (Yellow hair pussy) as a main cast character is so offputting. I honestly didnt enjoy the main trio. Tanjiro is too tame, Zenitsu is coward trash and Innosuke is too loud.
one thing that always bugged me was the other random demon slayers. anyone who isn’t a main character is extremely weak and stuck with the generic black uniform.
I mean, that is kinda the point of a uniform. Uniforms are meant to make people look the same and considering that most of the younger demon slayers are orphans or come from poor families, it makes sense that they don't have all sorts of fancy jackets and accessories. I personally don't mind the design either, a basic black with the Kanji for destroy on the back gets to the point as well as fitting the aesthetic of the era they are in, but that is just down to preference.
They also bring up at multiple points that the newer and younger demon slayers are more cowardly and not as committed to training and lacked discipline by running in solo or disregarding the orders of higherups as they were seeking glory and an easy path to becoming a pillar (where you are basically a celebrity with the ability to demand respect from anyone and get paid just about whatever you want) before ultimately died meaningless deaths (along with the others they abandoned in their selfishness) as the demons grew stronger significantly faster than the new recruits while keeping to their orders from Muzan at the risk of a painful death to those who disobey. The main point of it is to show how the future of the organization was in jeopardy and how the final showdown between the demon slayers and the demons will draw closer.
You can criticize Demon slayer for a lot of things, but I just don't see how you can for those two things.
@@Algebruh2407 yeah but there are different ranks of demon slayers?Well by their uniforms they all seem the same.Weak little people waiting to be killed:(
Nah, we saw that one blue haori guy in the first episode of season 2
@@userAsiral They have their ranks on their hands instead of getting a new uniform
@@Algebruh2407 I'm not talking about the uniform.I'm talking about how they're equally useless anyway.
"If you dont wanna flesh out the 5 siblings, then dont give Tanjiro 5 siblings"
Hey man blame their mom for that-
@Torika Gomutsutchi I mean the guy seemed pretty weak ...
@Torika Gomutsutchi I was kindda making a joke about how the mom was probably the frisky one in the relationship
Like why wouldn't the author flesh out the character of the guy who's mom thought he smashed her vase in the first episode? Like, why have a character in your story if you don't flesh them out?
And the Dad... I HOPE
@@Ramsey276one Reminds me of Inuyasha. We only know Kagome's mother but her father is just... G O N E
Demon Slayer is a big case of biting more than you can chew. The writer made this big family for Tanjiro but didn’t have the chops to develop it properly. They made 10 breathing forms and 2 years of training for Tanjiro but speedran through the whole thing. They made 10 slayer ranks but didn’t properly explain them. 15 villains but only explored around half of them. The list goes on.
Demon Slayer is a big case of biting more than you can chew. The writer made this big family for Tanjiro but didn’t have the chops to develop it properly. They made 10 breathing forms and 2 years of training for Tanjiro but speedran through the whole thing. They made 10 slayer ranks but didn’t properly explain them. 15 villains but only explored around half of them. The list goes on.
@@Fluskar why did you simply copy pasted it lol
Tbh the various formations all seems like a bunch of nonsense when you watch it, they don't even tell the audience there *are* 10 formations, like dude you literally just informed me about that personally as I had no clue there were actually 10 formations. This whole time I was convinced they were just bullsh!tting the whole time. the whole time. For real, it just comes off like they're pulling random numbers out of their asses as they all throw elements at each other. And tbh, it's already excessive as fvck to be doing all these ridiculous constant naming every single move every time anything is done, it was bad enough in dragon ball z with how often they've gotta shout out a moves name, and same goes for all the other anime out there that does it, but it gets SO damn pretentious in demon slayer because it's so uncreative and repetitive, but the fact that no one actually even is aware of what anyone's "powers" are past what element they wield, you're just sitting there hearing them spew out random numbers and it feels like you're literally being made fun of as a viewer. It really comes off like the creators think the audience is the biggest group of idiots around, they take so little care to so many aspects of the show/manga that it's pretty insulting. They think the audience is so dumb they can just pull whatever they want out of their asses and they'll eat it up - and tbh they aren't entirely wrong, just look at how huge it is, but my god it comes off as so insulting to me when I see it and it shocks tf out of me how many diehard fans it has.
Edit: I did add a little bit, I hadn't originally noted that I personally also didn't know about the 10 formations, but I also added a little bit of context later on in my comment - but I have to say, lastly, my apologies for how long winded my comments can be, it's something I gotta work on but I'm definitely not as good at editing comments on my phone as I would be on a computer because I can't see so much of it without scrolling a bunch.
@@notevencalm And additionally its less that and more so not having the balls to follow through.
what is there to develop about children 😭
After finishing the manga, I feel like the main problem is the pacing. It feels like things are going way to fast sometimes and things are getting skipped. And the ending well.....it’s pretty underwhelming. This anime is good I really like it but yeah it’s just missing that deeper characterization in my opinion.
I agree. Pacing is the main reason for a lot of these criticisms.
Yeah I can agree and because of the pacing, like u said, things just got skipped which can really mess up a story.
A LOT of recent shounen jump mangas has this problem, BNHA suffered from this early on in the story
I think it's probably because the authors fear that their series might be cancelled (Shounen Jump Magazine does that constantly) so they skip a lot of things and go straight to the stuff they want to draw more, which ends up messing up the story and making it just too fucking fast
I feel World building is the 2nd problem to me since the main reason I readed the manga before dropping it near the end was due to the Setting.
I think worldbulding is the 2nd problem and Deus Ex Machina in regards to Nezuko is the 3rd one. Like, Kimetsu has this thing were the Goverment is not fond of the Demon Slayers but is never brought up again, it doesn't have a rle in the story, they never get in trouble cause of that and was just an excuse for them to enter the train stealthly, and in regards to Nezuko, she always gets new abilities for no reason. She's "special" from the beginning just caus she is, she's always gettin sudden power ups out of nowhere with no explanation and that feels really flat. I see Kimetsu as the definition of Medium, like, the PERFECT definition of Medium! It has a lot of the problems of a bad writter but a lot of the qualities of a good ones, but like, they're too perrfectly balanced, is not a case of the goos outweights the bad or the inverse, is just the good and the bad always cancel each other out so it just comes of as "Acceptable"
My biggest gripe is that it is just too short lol. They introduced a lot of characters and concepts that werent fully explored, such as the many different demon slayer rankings, and some characters like kanao really only appeared in 2 arcs.
Also,even for characters that apperaed,it was really just tanjiro and nezuko that was fleshed out. None of the other characters had too much development,just a funky backstory. Inosuke and Zenitsu are good examples for this. They had screentime,but it was for no use. They had their screentime to fill out the parts where there woudln't be any plot
Exactly kanao and genya are my favourite character but they don't have that much screen time and many people who have only watched the anime hate both kanao and genya because genya was rude to tanjiro and kanao tried to kill nezuko but genya's past is so terrifying and kanao was just ordered to kill nezuko she was not mean or evil many people say they hate kanao because she tried to kill nezuko but no one hate inosuke he also tried to kill nezuko he was not even ordered to do that
@@Aamnakhan9098 Because inosuke got cool after tanjiro defeated him. Kanao stayed being a cold murderer for multiple episodes after trying to kill nezuko.Also yeah,kanao deserved more screentime
@@molegod8579 I agree with you but I think she don't deserve the hate she gets
@@Aamnakhan9098 Yeah. It was obvious that she wasn't gonna be a fan favourite but hating her wasn't right. Also,boar boy and pikachu got lots of screentime,yet they still didn't have any character development
One of my biggest gripes is how every Demon Slayer that isn’t a part of the main cast or a Pillar is just super weak. Isn’t being trained with a sword and knowing a breath style vital to being a Demon Slayer? It doesn’t even feel like they’d know how to chop onions. How’d so many pass the entrance exam and survive for so long while being absolute pushovers? They exist only to provide a casualty count in the story
Actually you don’t have to know a breath to be apart of the demon slayer corps but I know what you mean some characters are really just dead weight
Is no where near done, read the manga
@@daichi9316 the story already ended lmao, here we we have a blind fan who only agrees to his opinion and try defend something that's already been the truth.
@I farted multiple times among many lifetimes Yeah it is.
@@ichwalsadam9179 Don't know what your talking about, the person I was talking to deleted his/her comment
So much of zenitsu’s character development was sacrificed for comedic relief.
And for many fans, it's just the relief part that works
@@snoote533 , One Piece is the only anime/manga series that does comedy relief perfectly, but otherwise having comedy relief in anime/manga takes you out of the story, and makes you lose investment about watching/reading that series.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
Ok, zoro
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr It amazes me still how many people still haven't seen Gintama
@@snoote533 he ain't TOTALLY wrong tho, right?
"How do you become a pillar?"
First, you learn to stand very, VERY, still...
no thats how you become invisible to the naked eye.
@@deli8878 this
You gotta come out of a wall
🤣🤣
I know this is a joke, but-
To become a Hashira you need to apparently kill 50 Demons or a Member of the Twelve Kizuki as a Kinoe (the apprentice to a Hashira).
I really feel like anime nowadays have a problem with "First episode syndrome"
They know most people will decide if the anime is worth it or not based on the first episode, so it "has to be" as hype as possible. Get right into the action, no time for anything else. That makes it so the pacing of anime became a lot faster than it used to be, which is good, but pacing that fast can lead to some problems.
Old anime had all the time in the world to just take breaths and have slice-of-life episodes, episodes where the characters could talk, episodes simply to hype up future events, episodes to establish the tone... But nowadays, every episode HAS TO be plot-driven and there is barely any space to breathe.
Gravity Falls has that kind of pacing but it's still good. It's just how you execute it.
I find it ironic that Demon Slayer has barely any space to breathe, yet breathing is an essential part of the show.
Mob Psycho 100 had a great pacing
Gintama does that really well.
Yeah man I agree with you on the old anime using it's pacing well. NGE (Neon Genesis Evangelion) is an anime a lot of people thought (Me Included) was just another mecha, but if you watch it you realize that what happens before, between and after the giant robot fights, is just as good, if not better, than the fights itself. It fleshed out it's characters and relationships between the characters, all while still keeping the audience engaged.
The whole thing about the DS corps being a secret organization and the demons not being known to all people is kinda off for me too. Like, how did that even happen
Especially considering how many people keep dying to them XD
@@halinaqi2194 "Hey it's kind of weird how 23 people in the next town were just killed last night....must be a bear or something"
@@bronsonbgood9136 the funny thing is, neither the demons or the slayers try to hide anything
@@halinaqi2194 Man, like, Muzan lives in one of the busiest cities in Japan and most people probably have encountered or seen at least 1 Demon in their life (old granny that Rengoku saved met 2). How was it not at least common knowledge that demons exist? Giyuu was labeled mentally unstable because he claimed a Demon came and killed his sister, was there not like at least 1 or 2 people who could vouch for him?
To be fair, Japan does have a lot of mythology regarding mysterious deaths or disappearances. For example, the concept of being spirited away. Now some of the larger scale plans of the demons (looking at you Mugen Train) would be much harder to write off as superstition, but I always read the whole no one knows about the demons thing as the general populace writing it off as superstition or some non-demon type of mystical creature.
We see a lot of demons so it can be hard to put to scale, but it's more likely that demon attacks are not super common and spread apart from each other (demons don't like working together after all), and so a couple people going missing here or there gets attributed to mythical creatures
The worst part about the backstories is that they all just meld together towards the end. Everyone has an abusive dad or a sick mom who offs herself or siblings they have to look after and then demons fuck it all up. I legitimately had no idea whose backstory was who's at the end so when they all did their flashbacks it had no meaning.
They introduced so many characters they couldn’t finish so they just muredered 17 characters in the last 3 fights
@@theveganduolingobird7349 While fleshing out their backstories, of course. Well, what did you expect? Demon Slayer is just a bit more realistic than some of the other animes. These people out here fighting literal demons bro, ofc some of them finna die.
@@Hivatel Idk man, getting killed because they fought a strong opponent(s) is a pretty common theme in many - if not any - story. Demon slayer is not really that unique in that departement.
@@alpguy4865 Yeah, yeah. But it doesn't go overboard with it. That's what I like about it.
@@Hivatel Its does not go overboard, but doesn't do anything particulary spectacular tbh (manga story wise) which make it rather...standard at best. The anime's animation is pretty good, but overall as a shonen? not that high.
The final fight with Muzan is him swinging his arms around for 20 chapters killing randoms while the pillars keep saying to themselves they are too slow and too weak to defeat him
That’s like most fights in anime
@Deathbound300 honestly still liked it
FR LOL
Bruh I spent how many weeks for muzan to go from muzan jackson to a huge baby demon that has whips and him just using them for 18 chapters
The 19th was demon muzan dying and going into tanjiro
20th was tanjiro becoming the demon king and getting cured by nezuko in the same chapter it was an extreme letdown
@@trustyrat8632 tbh i would consider demon slayer a masterpiece if they made a sequel with tanjiro as the new villan and added some episodes where you just chill and relax
Am I the only one who had a hard time genuinely caring about nezuko? Shes barely on screen whitch is a shame because she has a alot of potential.
Honestly I know this probably sounds dumb but I've seen alot of fanfics that handle the story better
Naw from the jump I haven't felt anything about anyone in this show not even a bit hell it had me thinking I was missing something.
The protecc instinct is strong lol. People see cute imouto and get horse blinders
@@erynflynn8467 nezuko is basically a cute puppy
@@tesytes318 I think you're just a sociopath lmao
@@alvar4547lmao true if you replace her with a dog it wouldn't change a thing
I was really underwhelmed when I read the manga. Everyone made it seem all these characters had intricate, complex, lovable, and endearing personalities and arcs but it’s really just something anyone could think of in a night or two.
Zenitsu is the most insufferable screaming miserable incel I've ever seen and stops being funny immediately after his introduction. The hashira have TERRIBLE introductions because they do NOTHING but repeat their one-note character quips over and over and just beat it into your head. These characters are dogshit.
@@callmeascendant It sucks, cus I usually do like happy comedic characters that don't have much weight to them, but Zenitsu is just a bit too much.
@@vronji He's one of the bests character to me, because all his nonsense writing could be classified in "Oh, it's not serious anyways". All the other serious characters can't really get an excuse for bad writing unlike Zentisu.
@@ellahere2300 Comedic characters and comedy can be written well, though, and Zenitsu is a poor example of how you should write a comedic character. A few other examples of comedic relief characters that come to mind are Denki Kaminari from Mha and Toge Inumaki from Jjk. They're funny, loveable characters with funny little gags that can be funny when placed in the right situation (e.g. Denki going stupid whenever he overuses his electricity or Toge only being able to say ingredient words). Zenitsu just reminds me of Deku (who I don't really like in the first place) but much more obnoxious and loud, which isn't really good.
well the story is not that deep and not even intersting for me as the characters but i think most people liked the anime cause of the fights and animation
I really didn’t like the bit about Nezuko being “hypnotized.” I felt that it made her constant struggle to not eat people less impactful because you can’t know how much she’s actually struggling against her instincts and how much of it is just “hypnotism.”
Not gonna lie you just introduced something that could actually work better if Nezuko wasn’t hypnotized, it can give her some development as Tanjiro teaches her himself that she shouldn’t kill humans and only demons.
there is absolutely no reason to think she is literally under hypnotism, she wouldn't just do anything you tell her to do just because you repeat it in her sleep. she obviously understands urokodaki's words and wether she follows them or not is up to her.
@@kinoo4496 yea if i tell u to get me ice cream in my sleep, u don't get me ice cream ( sadly)
@@_evening_268 just tell me when i'm awake, everyone deserves ice cream
@@kinoo4496 It's... Literally stated in the anime that it was hypnotism. Tanjiro was even a little offended in one episode when he found out, which the mask dude (forgot his name lmao) apologized and said there was no other way.
in sumary: wtf is this pacing
talking about pacing, i think fire force pacing is unbearable
@@-supernova-8164 can't argue with that. Might be just me but I tried to follow the show as best as I could but the pacing really kinda screwed it for me and I just dropped it altogether. I mean you get thrown all types of info your way in a single episode and, personally, it doesn't give you time to absorb it and think shit through before even _more_ shit is shot at you.
Tokyo ghoul re: anime have the most terrible pacing. It's really trashy compared to the highly rated manga.
@@lan77997 100% agree
That's the issue I had with mha as well, I had no idea when I was in time. At first I thought their school life was only major crises until it told me it was a year later
Having a kind main character can be nice, but tanjirou isn't given a second character trait. He's just a nice boy, nothing else
And his only flaw at the start was "you cant make decisions quickly enough in the heat of the moment and hesitate to kill things", but that was worked out by episode 4 and he was just kinda perfect from then onwards
That’s a problem a lot of people have with Deku to funny enough and he also wears green coincidence I THINK NOT!!!!
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@@thelegendaryonionring4304 its the goodboi traits that make up their whole characters, idk if youve watched hxh but they gotta greenboi protag but he goes way off the deep end
in a great and well written way though, which is why current manga deku feels random asf
As a demon slayer fan myself, I understand everything he's saying and why he dosent like this, so in other words DONT BASH HIM JUST BECAUSE HE DOSENT LIKE DEMON SLAYER YOU CRAZY FRICKIN FANS!
Bruh.. he didn't make a single good point. Everything else is subjective as hell
@@nox7678 ok tell me, do the ranks mean anything outside of the hashira, do they ever show the backstory of a character before killing them, and do they explain anything about nezuko who is a giant plot tool and to overpowered and unexplained?
@@rosannronchetti2035 no lol yeah the ranks dont. and its not every demon gets a backstory, nezuko is a plot device true. but this is all basic knowledge..
come on give me all his other points. now that shit is stupid
@@nox7678 ok, name every main demon the main characters face and backstories, same goes to the hashira.
@@rosannronchetti2035 ?..what? waht are u trying to say?
You can tell the author bit off more than they could chew, since previous works were one-shots. The massive story of Demon Slayer could have benefited from more time for development and could easily had doubled the amount of volumes had pacing and character development been handled more carefully. I wanted to care more about characters introduced, but it was impossible due to the amateur crafting of the storytelling, which is a shame because there are amazing ideas there. I liked the manga, but it definitely left me wanting more story development.
Demon slayer had potential but fell short because of the author. He just wanted a quick boring story that could be animated by a good company and make money. People like demon slayer because it looks good. You'll never hear anybody that isn't biased talking about how the plot and writing and pacing is good. It's about the animation
@@volonidminus "He just wanted a quick boring story", the author had family issues so he had to rush the story quickly, he never meant to get it animated by a good company and make money. Check your statements before sending false information.
@@Treacho if bro had family issues why is he drawing cartoons 💀💀
No, you have to stop working completely and go into debt while dealing with family issues.
@@crazybeatrice4555 The author ripped off D.Gray Man. In every single major way. And FAILED at it too. D.Gray Man's author had major illness for which she had to take a hiatus of 8 years. And she STILL came back. And even if she is slow, she is still working, and surpassed her previous art skills, plot and story/characters. Despite having illness that directly interferes with drawing itself. The story is so intricate, deep, well paced, the themes are big and relevant: religion, science, politics, psychology, love, war, life good and evil, relationships, values and spiritualism. And the characters are actually relatable. They have a relatable hope, dream, stuggle, setback and path. Such a story is massive. Anyone trying to copy this as this tried, would definitely bite more than they could even digest. Please if you care give D.gray Man a chance. Because it deserves so. This author did nothing original. Sadly. Katsura Hoshino, creator of D.Gray Man on the other hand... well if you give it a chance you WILL see the level and calibre of difference.
i feel like it is overhyped but its still an enjoyable anime and manga
And your pfp made me think... I really did like Zenitsu as a character. He was probably my favorite.
Yeah Mezziloli. If you didn't know, someone saying something is overhyped doesn't mean they don't enjoy it
Agreed
It is definitely overhyped but the art style is beautifully done for sure, but really underwhelming
Yeah I feel like that's true too 😂 lmao
its ironic how they can give every character and their dog a backstory, but can't make a few episodes to give tanjiro's and his family backstory-
Honestly just cut everyone but the parents.
@Cookies , even in the random characters on the street of One Piece are more fleshed out than in Demon Slayer, and I haven’t read Fairy Tail yet, but if the One Piece Film Red is a perfect One Piece film than I plan on reading all through Fairy Tail to see if Just Stop’s viewpoints on Fairy Tail are correct.
But you do see his backstory. You see it as flashbacks scattered right throughout the series.
@@mrtnite9780 I think that’s the point you learn about them when the series progresses
@@kokushibo6130 well you don't know about luffy or other anime character's backstory untill they have a moment where they reminisce with a character or they're about to die
Imo Demon slayer is a good popcorn series just don’t go into it expecting it to be the masterpiece everyone was hyping it to be
Perfectly said
Yeah it’s good casually but not for any over the top hype
Its its nat a masterpiece but its not trash either
@@justrigelswag6918 the writing kinda is. Demon slayer is carried entirely by concept and they screw that up frequently too.
@@waluigi3515 Cant argue with that
They also just called nezuko "the chosen one" out of nowhere
I remember being first introduced to Demon Slayer, I heard Rengoku was very loved and etc. and when he died in the anime I was so convinced he was gonna get resurrected, like we barely knew him!
That's what I'm saying 😂
I cared when rengoku died because yea we only got time with him in the movie but they made you easily care about him with his back story and the fact tanjiro looks up to him it’s what he wants to become
@@RealBlackNoir69he was okey with killing Tanjiro and Nezuko like 5 chapters before the infinite train arc started 😭
@@omarrangelchavez8937 because all the hashiras were unsure tanjiro meets the hashiras and they get to see first hand what tanjiro and nezuko are capable of and earns their respect
@@omarrangelchavez8937lmao ikr? His change in ideals was so abrupt like the author forgot all about it
To be fair, the manga wasn't that popular until the anime came out, so I think the core virtue in this series is the production value of the anime. The quality is definitely outstanding for someone like me who usually don't pay much attention to art style and such to notice. And then afterwards when I went back to other shows, I started to notice how they're inferior in comparison.
The story is quite simple, and not a masterpiece of storytelling, but I think that's precisely the reason for the wide appeal, and can catch the attention of people don't usually watch anime.
So the reason Dragon Ball got so popular
Or catch the attention of people who’ve watched so much low quality anime, it’s a breath of fresh air that more effort was put into the art style/animation. It’s simple and doesn’t feel the need to draw out the story to 1000+ episodes
@@Euphoryaaa None of my friends watch anime and there is absolutely no way I can make them watch Demon Slayer and not have them curse at me for wasting their time. I only suggest AoT to any non-anime fan I know because time and time again my friends thanked me for forcing them to watch AoT especially with the current season.
@@lbn6486 Wtf? How the hell are Non-anime watchers not able to watch demon slayer? Wow
Maybe the rampant japanese culture in it is too confusing for them
@@Euphoryaaa You can say that all you want but most non-anime watchers are only willing to give an anime a chance if the story is amazing. Most don't watch anime and therefore can't judge solely based on how pretty the animation is. Demon Slayer does not have a revolutionary premise. It's pretty simple. They're not used to slapstick Japanese humour and all the screaming Zenitsu does. Most people I know are put off by anime because of all these cliches and tropes. They are also put off by Eren's screaming but stick to it because the story is great. The reason FMAB or Death Note are still relevant today is because of the story and the uniqueness of it's premise. Let's see how many people consider demon slayer a 'masterpiece' in 10 years. Just because it broke so many records doesn't make it a godsend.
Reminder other Demon Slayer fans: it’s okay for someone to dislike the series and it’s okay for other fans to notice issues they have with it 👍
NAAAAH
As someone who likes the series I agree, there’s also my fair share of popular titles that I don’t care for, I happen to think that Naruto is overhyped and nonsensical bullshit.
Yeah this guy is probably why TH-cam took out dislikes because he gets bombarded by dislikes every video but I agree with his pointa
I didn't like this series. All my friends love it, but thankfully they all were nice to me and didn't yell at me for not liking it.
Other fandoms can be as crazy with "their " series too but good advice
I haven’t watched it but remember fans:
Recognizing the faults of your favorite piece of media and loving it anyways is being a true fan.
Bruh you need to watch it , bear the first 15 episodes , but after that it’s good
And the movie is dropping as well , the movie has already passed the box office record of Japan , surpassing Star Wars : The force awakens
@@shukrantpatil No I have watched it tanjiro just used a new breathing style just because he needed it to beat spider boy an entire ART learned in an instant is way to much plot armor for me
I'm on this side. We can't avoid the flaws of it, no anime is perfect. That's why I loved the show. Tho I think I'm not making sense. Still can't wait for the movie :)))
@@bonitoflake7 Tanjiro technically already knew the art by watching his father using it but i will never know why he randomly thought to use a dance in a battle.
Something I definitely can support to as someone who has Bleach in their top 5 list
Im honestly relieved to see this video, I really didn't like Demon Slayer, and i thought i was going crazy because every convention I'd vend at, it was just endless Demon Slayer cosplays and merch. I was like did i miss something?? I mean the show wasn't bad, but I just didn't love it and I felt bad for not being as obsessed with it as every one else.
Then don't watch it, it's that easy 💀
@@nurulzuzaila But I...did? That was the whole point of the comment? I'm not going to watch it again but I did watch it because I was told it gets better and better. and I didn't love it
@@nurulzuzaila Like i'm so baffled by this comment lol, "don't watch it" Okay let me just time travel I guess
I was fan tho and now I’m not
@@Radcatcreations the point is people have opinions and have one
"If you don't wanna flesh out all 5 siblings, don't give Tanjiro 5 siblings"
Blame Tanjiro's dad and his... 𝒃𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒏𝒊𝒒𝒖𝒆𝒔 😏
i- thank you so much for this comment. it's comedy 𝓰𝓸𝓵𝓭. i'm 𝓼𝓵𝓪𝔂𝓮𝓭.
He can go all night long.
He could *dance* till dawn 😏
I like anime but don't make stupid comments
@@hopbunny45george41 lmao you sound angry
"If you don't wanna flesh out the 5 siblings, then don't give Tanjiro 5 siblings"
Well it's Demon Slayer not Seman Delayer...
What?
@@burntpotato7116 You see when a man and a woman love each other very much...
@@jasonlavallee8195 ohhh i get it. No further conservations
💀
👌nice
Small little issue, they did explain the How to become Pillar: slay 100 demons or slay an upper moon demon. It was in the Omake chapters though
yeah guy officialy hasnt read the full manga
@@juhabach4802 "Tanjiros face reminded Akaza of his former fiance so he let himself die" this dude is kinda special isn't he?
@@Drizzt-113 calling someone special I see. The only person special here is you
He's calling the Demon Slayer cast generic and uninteresting while praising most of Fairy Tail's cast.
It was slay a lower moon demon, not upper moon, pillars are weaker than upper moons
Watching the main character pull random abilities out of his ass to win every fight took me out of the show. It works in something like jojo because it’s already so random and insane, but if you are trying to make something more serious you can’t get away with that
i don’t even think it’s that huge of a problem with jjba. of the main animated characters, Jotaro is really the only one that gets a powerful asspull ability. Giorno got a power up too, but it wasn’t just out of nowhere to win the fight, it was given to him by the stand arrow that was already established in the scene and was also shown to give stands a stronger ability, as displayed by scr. i can’t remember much of phantom blood so idk if Jonathan had any tho.
either way, most fights in jjba are won by taking their already established abilities (and taking advantage of the environment and the enemies weakness) and utilizing them in new ways to outsmart the enemy in bizarre and clever ways.
It LITERALLY removes all stakes. You can set your watch to it; “and you’re gonna develop a new fight changing power right about……………now.”
@@man-wv8xj Yeah, that's why Jojo is so unique, it's strategy no matter how weird or bizarre it is, they always find a way, even if some characters are dumbed down to not even realize their stand's full capability
Jojo also has other elements that make them unique and not really being able to compare it to other kinds of anime. Soooo much of demon slayer I feel like I have seen most of it before
@@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly All of it pretty much, 1 dimensional character, usual cool flashy sword fights, etc. Boring, but people still consume it.
If it wasn't for ufotable, demon slayer wouldn't be as popular as it is now... Even if you're die hard fan, you cannot deny this...
Sometimes a great animation is enough to make many people ignore all the issues
@@husariuspl117 style over substance
yeah if it got any other studio people would call it mid as fuck, ufotable is carrying demon slayer on its shoulders
You can say this for a lot of shounen
@@Nicu-vy3gm not gintama.
I feel like people have a really hard time admitting the things they enjoy might be average and/or just not that good. The Star Wars prequels are bad movies, I still love them. Bleach, DBZ, and Naruto are all filled with repetitive and cliche writing flaws, yet they're some of my favorite series of all time. I really enjoy Dragon Ball Super even though its riddled with all types of issues. Assassins Creed Valhalla is probably one of the most bloated and unnecessary AC installations in the series, but I can't get enough of it. I could keep going for a whole shit load of animes, movies, musicians, etc.. But the point is that it's okay to enjoy something, while still acknowledging that it might not be the greatest thing in the world. Demon Slayer is really just an average series, and if it's your favorite series then that's awesome.
A mature reply that honestly doesnt belong in a youtube comment section
If something should be 'the greatest thing in the world' to exist, not much would exist 😂 I just enjoy how most of the most ruthless critics of all the things... couldn't create anything if their life depended on it, even something terrible.
The thing is no bleach fan is saying bleach is the best thing since slice bread lol. Especially if they’ve seen other anime out there…
@@allaccordingtoplan5560 The thing is every fanbade has fans that call there shit the best thing since sliced bread. You're lying to yourself if you don't think a Bleach fan has not ever praised Bleach ad a masterpiece(especially when it was at its peak around the 00's). Your argument is pretty weak
i think thats just called bad taste?
It feels like I am in a parallel universe.
Everyone was talking about how good this was and how interesting and sad each demon's story was
I read it, and found out that it really was basic
Omg exactly. It was so basic and I don't get why people like it so much? It didn't make me feel anything. I was just irritated through out the whole show. There are much more sadder anime out there so I guess I was getting tired if animes trying to be "sad and emotional".
@@xeroxolly , yeah
I would say, it probably appeals to the new generation of anime viewers
Since they have gotten used to tropes
Literally the whole show’s purpose feels like it’s trying so hard to be as emotional and epic as possible as quickly as possible. Like nobodies ever fleshed out enough for me to actually care, the pacings too quick and there’s barely any time to get to know the characters behind just the general traits they have for the plot
Like for me just because a scene makes an audience cry, it doesn’t immediately make a story complex and good! Any random background character can make the audience cry as long as they get a last minute sudden “tragic backstory” accompanied by an emotional soundtrack and beautiful visuals..
Atmosphere seems to be the only important thing. Style over substance kinda thing.
@@calsdraws6096 , that's why
I suggest shows like "Rainbow", "Joker Game" and "Jormungand"
bro what about akaza's backstory ... it was certainly not basic
Daki was able to kill 7 hashira in the past but Zenitsu and Inouske somehow overpower her. So does this mean that both of them are hashira level? The power scaling is so poorly done.
1 demons get stronger over time and as they eat 2 she never confirmed wether it was a hard battle and if gyutaro was involved 3 zenitsu and inouske are pretty good slayers atp along with tengen already weakening her
Yes, the main characters, one of which was trained by a former pillar, are in fact near the power of pillars
well, when daki killed the other 7 Hashiras they probably came alone, so Daki + Gyutaro and that gimmick that they only die if you kill both makes it extremely hard for even a Hashira to deal with them. (since in the end theyre still upper moons)
so in this scenario it was very possible for Zenitsu and Inosuke to deal with her since not only it took combined effort of 2 already pretty skilled demon slayers but tengen and tanjiro were dealing with Gyutaro.
PS: Also daki isnt really that strong on her own, since we saw how tengen easily beheaded her like 3 times i think without even putting effort, so zenitsu and inosuke were definetly good enough to deal with her but even then they still struggled.
@@nickmendez5693 it can this way like 2 or 3 hashira came together can tried to kill daki and gyutaro
She got carried by gyutaro that's how
The show and manga fall into the category of "good enough for mainstream appeal". It has good art, ok writing and in the anime's case, fantastic music, but outside of that it's nothing special or even above average. It's fine.
Check out Madoka Magica's soundtrack. It has the same music composer, Yuki Kajiura.
The anime itself is a godsend too.
If we're talking about the manga, I definitely wouldn't call the art good. Not complete dog shit, but not good either.
That every shonen that why that called the fall under the same cliches your just figure that out now the same the main character is a orphan or one or both parent die the master get killed a close comonrade get killed the main character has to avenge his death power of friendship master dies the main character his to get stronger the fight the final villian in the end where has your been for last 20 years duh that every shonen that almost the same every main character want to be the strongest pirate,ninja,hero ,magician you name it you just noticing these cliches
@@sebastienparent9964 I didn't just notice it, I just don't like how it's executed. Invincible has a tone of clichés and it's still good. Same for Iruma kun. It's execution that I care about, something this show doesn't do all that well.
To put it short, Demon Slayer is the epitome of mediocre story that has extremely good animation.
Well, I can understand. As a Fan of Demon Slayer, I can understand that its very underwhelming and overhyped, Personally, it's not just Demon Slayer, I believed My Hero Academia had that same way somehow. But, if anyone doesnt like it, I respect it. As one said:
"No one is gonna always like the same thing, people have their own Likes and Dislikes."
Edit (2021): Wow, 1.5K likes! Thank you very much for the Likes! You guys are awesome!
Thank you...
@@drakewilson638 it's no problem
you have my respect
@@Raf8347 I thank you very much
You're a great one.
I'm going to revisit this video within a week to read the comments.
Same
Yes
Imma drop a comment so I can too haha
So, how are ya doing?
😂
I think killing all the lower moon should have happened after the mugen train arc, where Muzan would have killed them because even the strongest one was defeated so easily.
I feel like the sheer amount of siblings that Tanjiro and Nezuko had before they all got murdered does serve to emphasize how lonely they ended up and how the other sibling is all each of them has left. I don't think we had to know every of the other siblings to understand Tanjiro and Nezuko's desperation to survive together.
No that's like saying I should give a damn about Fairy Tail Guild members just because they're there. If there is no emotional connection and just 2 minutes of screen time then how am I supposed to know the rapport of the family? How can I understand the joke about Tanjiro grand standing for Nezuko's beauty if I don't know what personality she has? Despite that it's still a breathe of fresh air on sibling dynamics in anime.
It also harkens back to these large Japanese families that popped up after they opened up. So having that large, happy family get reduced to two members hurts.
It also reminds of that scene in Fushigi Yuugi where Tamahome's large family gets massacred by an angry twat with a grudge.
@@mr.unknown731 I mean, we still feel sad with the fact that they're ultimately children, and they had to die so young. And like imagine that you used to live in a house with so many other family members, then one day, you're alone.
I understood this was the reason as well, but despite knowing Tanjiro’s “alone” (without his family, I mean) I still cannot bring myself to feel sad for him or care when he thinks of his dead family members. For example, in the train arc I think we should’ve felt how hard it was for Tanjiro to leave the dream, but despite knowing how he felt I couldn’t empathize and that made that scene, as well as others, feel pretty flat. Maybe things could’ve been better if the anime had spent the whole first episode showing us a touching moment in the Kamado family, or anything more than the short conversations we saw
@@Tamaki742 Except that doesn't pull viewers into the story of media whose genre is littered with those same type of backstories. We just brush it aside cause we don't get the exposure of what connections Tanjiro built with his family and how that is now gone. One anime that did a great job in explaining a character's ties with his family despite us only getting exposure of such rapport in just that 1 episode out of the whole series is Subaru from ReZero season 2. Him taking Echidna's test and finding the flaws about himself looking back at his past life.
Avatar: TLA entire run time is a training ark, lol.
The fact that that’s kinda true is funny
Holy shiiiiiiiiiit , you're right 😭
Woah...
Many people didn't realize this and that's shocking to me lmao
J's: I didn't like demon slayer
Croud: KILL THAT MOTHERFUCKER
lennox:.........shit
Families were a lot larger in older times because of the mortality rate and also no birth control.
@Samod Kennedy-Duncan Even 50 to 60 years ago the size a family was a lot more than one or two.
@Samod Kennedy-Duncan Potato, potato.
According to my grandma, people were just bored back then.
No tv, maybe not even books, what else were you gonna do?
also generally Asian countries tend to have bigger families
that's... not the point...
As a person from 2 years later now its even more overhyped and even more underwhelming
The demonslayer swordsmith movie lmao. Literally an hour of the previous arc AND THE FIRST EPISODE OF SWORDSMITH VILLAGE. absolutely criminal. Literally made me drop the show, have not and will not continue watching the anime (but i did end up reading the manga before the swordsmith village movie thing) and it was alright 7/10 but if i had to choose without the option 7 id say a 6/10.
Is it a good anime? *Yes.*
Is it as good as the hype says it is? *No.*
Yeah it's 7.5/10 at best
I think it lives up to the hype. People where saying it had amazing animation and soundtrack. Nobody said it had Shakespeare writing. In my opinion the hype lives up to what people say.
@@HH04_ episode 19 is so underwhelming in a story telling perspective I was waiting for the good shit until the ending song came. But it was very enjoyable.
I think it's even better and kind of underhyped now because people are making these kinds of videos which are making others feel like they need to agree.this anime is actually really good, like I didn't consider putting this into my top 3 anime from the first few episodes, but around episode 19 or 20,i really liked this and it was really just better than any other anime I had ever seen. I truly love demon slayer and I can't understand why people don't like it
Well what do you have to say bout the video?
Another problem I have is that Tanjiro is perfect. He has no character flaws at all and doesn’t grow even at the end of the manga. He’s so freaking likable there’s nothing wrong with him. I cringed during the scene (without getting too detailed cus i don’t want to spoil it) where someone sees what inside his mind is like. All peaceful and cute and clear and I was like this is the same mf that came home to his family being torn apart and blood everywhere. That happened not too far after the beginning of the series. Wtf. He has no depth.
Imagine this, imagine if since he saw such a horrible fate of his family, he developed a fear of blood. Every time he sees or smells it he has ptsd moments about when he found his family. This hinders him and leaves him vulnerable in fights. Imagine if we saw him slowly but surely overcome this fear, imagine how much better that would be. But fuck no. We had to get a shallow character who’s likable, but still shallow asf. I should write my own manga dammit
If only that was the lone flaw...
3 per scenes ~~
He's a demon slayer, him getting PTSD every damn fight is bland. I don't see how he's shallow and you clearly don't read the manga if you think he didn't grow at all. Have you skipped all the scenes he let his rage get to him or basically switched personalities? He also expresses hate and disdain towards some demons in the manga.
It seems to me like you're just a yes-man or have an uninformed opinion.
While that is fair, he's like a superman/steve rogers type character.. Pure and sincerely good.. He makes up for this by at least paying a price in the end.
@@pilosopino23 That isn't a character flaw, you may find it boring, but it isn't a flaw.
@@bdorage i'm not saying it's a flaw.. I agreed with the OP.
I said that characters like that exist because he was framing it as if it was impossible to have characters like that.
It's not as if Tanjiro is the first.. Hell even Goku is a pure protagonist..
I love Demon slayer, but it is filled with anime cliches, just admit it. Some "beautiful moments" are ruined by the overdone dialogs, the anime is filled with convenience plot-fill purposes, the MOST obvious "This character has a tragic backstory, now feel bad for them" backstories that I have ever seen. Almost everyone's backstory is "Demon killed their family", there were not ANY other depths to the characters, to the point where you can't even emotionally connect with the characters. The death of major characters in Demon Slayer is about as impactful as a minor death of a character introduced in the exact same episode in any other anime. The character designs are also painfully bugging, you can tell who'll die and who won't just based on that ITSELF.
Agree, but they way you worded this is kinda funny. Like, how else would you expect a character to be sympathetic if not for sympathetic portrayal lmao?
@@unioneye1087
TLDR in the end.
There are many ways to do a sympathetic portrayal. Demon Slayer's feel forced down your throat, like the anime is telling the audience "Hey, this character is tragic, FEEL BAD FOR THEM!!"
For example, one of the characters randomly goes
"Hey, I know you have lung cancer, but that doesn't mean you can slack off!"
and the main character goes
"Wait, he has lung cancer...? He's not evil after all, he just wants to cure his own illness!! It must be terrible for him!"
See? The dialog is there, just for that reason, as if the invisible viewer is there. That's bad writing. You shouldn't tell a story, you show it.
I think you should try watching Tokyo Revengers. Budget not nearly as high as demon slayer, which bothered me, but the plot is amazing, and there are many characters you can actually sympathize and connect with. Unlike in Demon Slayer, where you just... Can't emotionally connect with the characters. Everything feels like a big fancy set up shown to you.
TL, DR : I'm not saying sympathetic portrayal itself is bad, Demon Slayer just does it VERY badly.
@@ellahere2300 Yeah i understand, you even make good points here, it's just that your initial comment was worded really weirdly in my eyes, lowkey gave me the impression of someone just following the crowd with their criticism (I don't think you are now tho).
And btw yeah i actually have watched TR, i was even on it just before it boomed. Imo it was downright amazing right till the recent manga arcs, which have been kind of downhill for me, especially after a certain out of left field backstory.
Though i don't remember anyone with lung cancer in KnY.
@@unioneye1087 That was an example, I do remember in the KNY movie, someone had an illness, and that's exactly how it played out.
I do agree that my initial comment could be misleading since I wrote it in a rush, but I fixed it a little so I hope it's fine now
@@ellahere2300I actually just watched the movie yesterday and got reminded on who you were talking about. I read the manga, but i guess he was just really forgettable to me there or something.
And yeah, after you pointed it out to me here it feels so blatant to me how sympathetic they want him to look now that it’s kind of surprising i didn’t also feel like this wayy then when i read it for the first time. Though i guess he also left such a small impression on me that i forgot anyway lol.
I love Inosuke I truly do but they definitely could have come up with a more believable way for him to have survived being stabbed, rearranging his organs is so convenient and just feels like a child making up new powers for their doll just to defeat their friends powers
It feels more like a JJBA answer for surviving getting stabbed
@@PersonaAmericanashit up don't besmirch JoJo's amazing fights with demon slayers they don't do shit like that and when they do it's something that makes sense like jotaro stopping his own heart
i mean they show u he’s extremely flexible in the show 💀 bro literally dislocated all his joints at one point, it’s also jus a fictional story so either way who cares.
@@kay56738 We care. That's literally why we're watching this video
@@yadienbegode2778 what u on abt? i was defending it if anything 💀
People call this anime the greatest of all time when AOT and HxH exist and nobody hyped the anime until episode 19 and I know this because I watched it when it first aired. Ufotable carried this series. If it had bad animation it would've gotten clowned on
Some people just look at the animation and they imidientely love it, when I hear people saying DS is amazing and their main point is the animation I think: "If Boku no Pico had a gorgeous animation would it be considered a good anime?"
@@husariuspl117 u saying boku no pico isn t a masterpiece ??
NEWS FLASH: Animation carries ANY anime that is literally the definition of animation. Ppl would clown on any anime with bad animation, look at Berserk it's a masterpiece of a manga but it's anime is shit. I feel it's perfectly fine to enjoy an anime because of it's animation, not every anime needs to reinvent the wheel and be this philosophical thought provoking masterpiece. There's nothing wrong with just good old fun fantasy adventures guys.
@@mysteryman9488 so your saying it dosen t matter how mediocre or bland it is as long as it ha a good animation it s a good anime i see u going with the crunchyroll formula give all awards to the flashy shallow anime DS jujutsu kaisen MHA GOH
And forget about actuall good anime AOT mob psycho and ither good anime
@@lordmoncef5494 When did I ever say Demon Slayer is better than AOT or Mob Psycho just because it has better animation? I simply said Demon Slayer is a perfectly enjoyable show, it might not have a groundbreaking story but it's still enjoyable and definitely a good anime no matter how you look at it the animation is gorgeous and the soundtrack is beautiful those are objectively what makes a good anime, you trying to diminish all the work that was put in it and call it a bad anime just because you don't like the story, are you hearing yourself? Also Attack on Titan and Mob Psycho have amazing animation are you blind dude? Show me an example of a good anime that has bad animation and maybe I'll give it to you, you can still enjoy a anime with gorgeous animation but you can't sit through a show with terrible animation no matter what kind of story it has, want an example try watching Berserk 2016.
What bugs me is the part of why Tanjiro and the survivors of the Final Selection has exceptional senses.
Tanjiro- smell
Insouke- touch
Zenitsu- hear
Kanao- sight
Genya- taste(technically he has the power to gain temporary demon abilities when eating demons)
It was never explained about this.
Probably to make them stronger than already experienced Hashira
how genya was introduced in the story is simply bad writing.
It's funny how people with good traits are the ones that survived, isn't it? It's almost like only the best were able to come out alive. Also Insouke wasn't in the Final Selection.
@@Masquerade6666 ? he was and survived the final selection, he was the first one up there and I guess he left
@@albertoarmando6711How tf is that bad writing
"Time supposedly spent two whole years"
Attack on Titan and Dr. Stone: Are you challenging me?
Nothing will beat 3,700 years in 1 episode (dr.stone)
@@steveu3823 , Dressrosa was only a single day in One Piece, but it felt longer than a day, and it felt like several months went by in One Piece time.
maeanwhile naruto: 2 days in 300+ episodes
If the anime didnt have such godlike animation, no one would give a shit about the show tbh.
you have the braincells of an actual barnacle, if animation was the reason why it was so popular then, why did the manga get millions of sales?
@@wasordx3245 cause people wanna see where it goes then get dissapointed
@@bigboi2334 not necessarily.
This is so true. Like ds without the animation is swords touching swords.
Its good but it is nowhere near godly. Fire Force completely blows it out of the water along with many others
Also like, none of the female characters have any actual character? Nezuko is just a goal for tanjiro to work towards for. The female hashiras have almost no screen time, the other female demon slayers are really just there to give praise to Tanjiro, and the female demons have like 1 personality trait and are there for pure fanservice. Every male character, including the one-off demons, get character arcs and even backstories but the female characters are mostly there to make the guys look cool and for fanservice
(Best example I can give are Uzui's wife, have like 1 personality trait each and are supposed to be amazing ninjas in their own right but their introduction is having to be saved by 15 year old kids)
no?
i can agree that mitsuri is a flat character and nezuko is just a goal to tanjiro work towards for, but Shinobu (the insect hashira) has a clear motivation, interesting personality and a good amount of screen time (counting the manga). Tamayo isn't the best but has a clear motivation and a cool bond w Yushiro (also shes a badass but that doesn't make a good character), and i can say the same for Kanao :[
I wish i could praise the female upper moon but only her backstory is interesting +basically shared with her brother, so meh. ( edit: but if ur a anime watcher, i can see why u think shinobu and kanao are flat )
Who fuckin cares?
I think you only noticed tengen's wives what about shinobu, kanao, mitsuri and lady tamao
that depends on what kind of motivation you mean. Mitsuri just wanted to fit in and be happy, I don't see what is wrong with that, she doesn't need to be a tragic backstory like the rest of them you know, so of course she is going to not be as complex as the others. Shinobu was quite the complex character (by kny standards), and so was lady Tamayo even though they had so little screen time.
there is literally the biwa demon who I don't know where you got the fanservice from but ok, and if its about daki 1)shonen 2) she is literally a prostitute.
I could agreee on KAnao and Nezuko being bland though they did have a few changes throughout the story, with nezuko being more humanized and Kanao being more expresive.
overall if you want development, go read the light novels of kimetsu no yaiba, they explore the personalities of shinobu, kanao, aoi, mitsuri and a few others like kanae.
For me, Nezuko has the least personality and motivation out of the entire cast, yet she's the deuteragonist of entire series. There are many examples of mute characters that still have personality, yet Nezuko was written so poorly she's practically an inferior Tanjiro. If she wasn't as cute as she is, she wouldn't be nearly as popular and loved.
I actually have harsher things to say about Nezuko. It's not that she just doesn't have a character, she just reads like fetish bait or something.
Why can't she talk? Other demons talk, so why not her? Why doesn't she want to eat human flesh? Like I recall her being exposed to a fresh corpse early on and Tanjiro just buries them without her even wanting to get a nibble. I mean, it'd be pretty great for the story if she just wound up scavenging found corpses later on. If she can control her appetite so well, why does she even have a gag? She does so much damage to the world-building around demons just by existing.
There were also other directions you could take her. She could've been borderline feral, ya know, actually a problem for Tanjiro who is bullheadedly holding onto a girl who has been dead for a long time. Or she's either vaguely or fully aware of her condition. But she's neither of those things. And we don't actually know who Nezuko was before she turned. Who actually was Tanjiro's sister? What was her personality?
She's just a moe-bait character with a gag who never has opinions, never incites any interesting conflicts and isn't actually Tanjiro's sister? So . . . she's just an idealized blob? A girl who just shuts up and does nothing except when convenient for the plot? What am I supposed to take from that except that it's weird that anybody likes her this much as a waifu?
I brought this stuff up recently in conversation and "apparently" the gag is to prevent any blood, accidental or on purpose, to enter her mouth. Because she's the only demon to have not yet tasted human blood and that somehow makes her more able to be reverted. I guess? Still doesn't explain how she doesn't need to eat anything and just sleep. Sleep is used to do cell work and stuff, it doesn't generate energy to function like food intake does. Or why she can't just be stronger than normal feral urges. You know, every other demon acts sentient and speaks, why can't shes just be inherently good natured despite the situation?
Honestly, it's just a means to avoid writing the otherwise most potentially interesting character. You can switch her out with a dog and nothing in the story changes.
@@amandaslough125 im pretty sure it was said that she was a special case. I think i saw something about her being a hybrid due to her not wanting to eat human flesh and her being more in touch with her human side than other demons
@@amandaslough125 pretty sure it was said early on that she regains strenght by sleeping instead of consuming humans
totally unrelated question, is that banshee cloack or ghost cloack?
I completely agree. She's made specifically to get the plot moving. She's boring, personality-less, and she's the deuteragonist! Other Anime can make "I change the world and get the plot moving" characters much better her.
My biggest problem is that the series felt like the first act to a bigger story, when it was over I remember saying “oh that’s it?”
Gorgeous animation, top notch music, painfully average story
As much as it hurts to admit, I 100% agree with everything you said. I did care about some of the characters so I kept reading the manga but I felt so drained and unsatisfied when it was over.
Yeah I don't remember anything from the manga
Just read with the flow ig
They didn’t know how to deal with any characters developing so they just rushed to the end of the show made main charecter god mode powers then killed every character
I'd say the anime fixes all that, but we won't really know until the final arc.
@@theveganduolingobird7349 There ain't no godmode bruh Tanjiro lost his fucking arm, almost turned into a full demon for good, Giyuu lost his arm, Nezuko almost died, Kanao went blind in one eye, and over half the remaining Hashiras got wiped and reincarnated.
Ok- here’s what I think. Shows can get hype and be popular and still be decent, but even if a person likes a show they shouldn’t call one show the “best” or a “masterpiece” Seriously, why are so many people so obsessed online about finding the best anime when all of it is subjective? Sure, anyone can say “I like this so it is my favorite” but it’s weird how people try to say “this is the best one, because I said so and anyone who disagrees is just a hater” Seriously people, there can be multiple good anime’s, there doesn’t always have to be only one anime at the top, there can be multiple (and some people might not even know about the good a lot of the good ones out there)
Btw this is coming from someone who likes demon slayer, but still understands why some people might dislike it because there are a lot of obvious issues that are heavily overlooked because of the intense fanbase, and it definitely isn’t the best, but I still consider it enjoyable upon first watch (after my second watch it kinda started to feel alright but nothing groundbreaking because it’s quite formulaic)
I kinda consider it a starter anime, since it’s short and new.
Some of it's subjective.
SAO embodies what you just said. Someone in a comment section was like a “SAO IS A MASTERPIECE.” And I was like, “I like it personally but it’s not a masterpiece. After that someone else came into the conversation and said just because it has flaws and you don’t consider it a masterpiece doesn’t mean that it is one.
In my head in like, wtf?
I should ask that person why he thinks it’s a masterpiece actually and see his reaction
Re:ZERO is my personal masterpiece, since the beginning it has fit my tastes to a tea and has never disappointed me with it's colorful and layered cast, expanding world, and rollercoaster of hell and hope. I think when most people say smth is a masterpiece they are just giving the highest praise they can to a show. It's all just opinions anyway.
Yeah even my favorite anime of all time Hunter x Hunter I still don't consider a masterpiece(mainly because it's still technically unfinished). I gave Demon Slayer a 2nd chance and thought it was pretty decent, nothing groundbreakingly special but I think it can still be enjoyable from what I watched so far.
CheetoVA hm, I understand where you are coming from! I think we both might have different opinions of what the word masterpiece is but if you want to use the word that way I can’t really stop you from it! :) I’ve never seen re:zero (although I have gotten it recommended to me a lot so I might check it out sooner or later) but in my mind, a masterpiece is something that is so close to greatness that it is almost perfect. But in my opinion, I don’t think there is ANY show out there that is 100% resistant to critique or void of flaws, even my favorite things ever.
(For example I might like apples, but that doesn’t mean that everyone around me has to like apples too, they might think apples are too sweet)
Now that I’m thinking about it though- the word “masterpiece” itself is subjective too, because originally it was used exclusively as the term for “a piece of work by a craftsman accepted as qualification for membership of a guild as an acknowledged master.” But I guess nowadays it is simply just a term for something with excellent craftsmanship, so I guess language just changes with the times based on how each person interprets it. (For you it seems like a masterpiece is something that gets you invested in the characters, while I might think a masterpiece is something that has no plot holes, good art, and interesting themes and messages that I can think about later, but you can do what you want and I can think what I want! :))
Also sorry if this wasn’t clear earlier, but my original comment was more focused on those small subset of fans in every fandom ever that feel the need to put their favorite show on a pedestal while also dragging down other shows in the process (for example I see some people say “xyz” is trash, blah blah blah, “abc” is so much better and the best so therefore it is the only good thing out there) because for some reason people nowadays think something needs to be flawless to enjoy something?? Like people should be able to like a show without having the label “masterpiece” because at the end of the day, people can like/dislike a masterpiece regardless of the label and people can like/dislike a non-masterpiece despite its label as well.
Either way thank you for being respectful with your original reply and also thank you for reading 2 of my long rambling messages! I really appreciate you at least hearing me out for a bit even though we might disagree on some things. :)
I liked Demon Slayer but I didn't think it was a MASTERPIECE like other people said.
Most anime fans glorify their favorite animes to a ridiculous point.
@hops I like Mha but my same reason stands.Its not amazing.
@Antonio DeFreitas Bakugo doesn't really deserve to be a hero... that's it's main problems
People are overhyping DS, it has an outstanding visuals and artstyle is appealing but besides that...there's not much things I can say makes it worth check out, I'm pretty sure if Fairy Tail got the same animation and artstyle less people would targetting as a joke.
And While I also think MHA is overhyped the difference between My Hero and Demon Slayer is that I actually remember most of the names of the characters and their personalities and I like MHA more, it's by no means perfect but it's fun and I like it a lot, but man the fanbase is one heck of a trashpile (tho that doesn't affect me and my liking for the show, I don't think we should judge the show (or characters) by the fanbase)
I love MHA and Naruto and i recognize their HUGE flaws
Naruto ALL OF SHIPPUDEN
MHA Bakugo, Mirio not being the protagonist, The ending of the Overhaul arc , Too much training arcs, Etc.
And i have more but i just can't bring myself to not like them
Naruto is nostalgia because it was the first anime ive ever seen and MHA because it has that Magic that is callled Personality
I know their flaws but even if i see them right in the face i will still love them
And if you hate those shows then do it
I just i don't really think any show in general is overated
Everyone likes what they likes and sometimes a person gets lucky that their creation found and reached the right audience at the perfect time
SAO wouldn't be as popular if it came out like in 2018 because then they would be thousands of shows with the same style but it's popular because it was the first to do it and reach a mainstream audience.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
The worst thing about the Demon Slayer ranks is that only the Hashira rank is used all the time, we never see a character who is below hashira and above Tanjiro and is both mentioned their rank and shown their feats to be big, nothing, this makes the Demon Slayer corp feel shallow, makes the worldbuilding feel weak
If the anime had average or worse animation literally everyone would be clowning on it
Yh like Black clover ...it is wayy better than demon slayer but people don't respect it just because it had shit animation at the beginning
@@tejasmishra3426 yeah black clover >>>>> mid slayer
@@habibisuckslol fax
Black Clover is my top 1 favorite new gen shonen hands down, yet people hate on it for no reason :/
@@twirox1662 bro fuck them haters black clover is goated
I mean he's right on most parts. I've always felt the muzan fight went the way it did because the mangeka wanted to make the fight feel more like a desperate scramble to defeat him (as they'd written themselves into a corner with him being so overpowered) but i liked it that way. Upper moon 1 fight is definitely the best fight in the whole series without a doubt
The sad thing is, so much things go unexplained when the world-building is really the one of the most simple ones I have ever seen.
And the sadder thing is, most of them is either due to the mangaka trying too hard to give a character a "cutesy" trait, or the mangaka refusing to kill off a character.
The only thing I didn’t like in this anime and manga included,was tanjiro,hes devoid of any real flaws,he’s a Gary stu personality wise,he’s just a saint,it doesn’t feel like I’m watching a real human,atleast zenitsu has a personality as much as people think he’s annoying
Zenitsu 100% makes the story worst. I can't take the series seriously when half of the anime is his stupid, unfunny interations with the main cast which ruins any and all tension the series had.
@@jackmayor3574 it’s less the fault of the actual character and more the fault of the writing,you can write a character being coward and a bit of a perv and make him likeable,zenitsu I liked him,I liked the idea he brought,did I find him annoying and unfunny?yes but to me an annoying character is better than a boring and bland one,who tanjiro definitely is
Zenitsu doesn't even feel human. He's just an idea put into a character clocked on repeat except a few parts
@@volonidminus which is why,it’s the fault of the writer not the character himself,she butchered his character development he just one day decided to be serious and that’s it,she could’ve made all her character so much better more like humans with flaws,i find zenitsu more human because he has flaws,tanjiro doesn’t hes just perfect and a Saint
I feel like Demon slayer is an example of an underrated series being put on the put light and then turning into overrated. Like many people keep on how underrated Demon slayer was to the point it got really popular. But as the series continues people who checked the series out started asking "why is this so popular" and then demon slayer became overrated.
Same thoughts too. I remember reading it on Viz before the anime even came to fruition. It was good but nothing really happened for me until the last three arcs. Back then, I thought to myself, "Hmmm. I wonder if these scenes got animated". Then BOOM, an anime adaptation got announced. It was very underground until Episode 19 came out.
Demon Slayer is a Michael Bey Production in anime form😂😂🤣🤣🤣.
yes!!!I was trying to say something like that in my comment,but you explained this perfectly
Dude how many manga/anime do you know? Demon Slayer is something that has already been done lots of time in manga/anime history. There's nothing new. It's not bad at all, but it's not that great. So yes, it's overrated expecially by people that don't know much about it.
The term overrated and underrated has lost its meaning
I remember watching the first training bit and seeing Nezuko basically be like "aight, ima be asleep conveniently so you can train" and it just immediately taking me out of the moment. Like, oh boy, it sure is convenient that you suddenly have all this time where you don't have to worry about your demon sister going crazy and killing people. Even beyond that, it really just takes any agency away from her as she's just a McGuffin to be put on the shelf when it's inconvenient for her to be around. Like, boy, I sure hope she doesn't randomly go into another 2-year coma the next time she fights
@Itsurboyroy Hugs she’s not exactly immune to the sun because that’s the whole reason why she’s in tanjiro’s box: to block the sun. she also went into a coma because when she first got transformed into a demon she used A LOT of her strength and the only way for her to increase her strength without eating people is by sleeping. Now why it was 2 years, I don’t know haha. I think the reason she’s op is “power of friendship” or in this case “power of brother sister bond” which isn’t a very good reason. Imo I think demon slayer is a pretty good anime but definitely overhyped and definitely isn’t the masterpiece that people say it is (besides the beautiful animation)
@@vera_7074 That person is further along in the story than you. They are right, and spoiled it. The first sentence you wrote is wrong. Do you not read manga? I just spoiled myself on wiki awhile ago.
@@ShanyShannon oh I’m an anime only but it’s fine since I don’t have any context
she recovers by sleeping not by eating humans. learn how to read
One thing that I didn’t like about the first training arc was how they show Tanjiro going through all of these exercises of being alert and learning how to breathe and such but then in his first fight we see him pull off a water technique where the animation is great but I was also left confused. They never showed him doing any kind of water techniques during that training arc and that’s why it let me so confused. It would be like watching Rocky during his training arcs when he builds up to fight his big opponent and then in the middle of the fight pull a Kamehameha. When the hell did he learn that and why didn’t they show that during the arc? Seems like a pretty important thing to me.
Tanjiro:
-Tries to do everything moral
-Has some hidden potential that comes out when the plot demands it
-Loves his sister more then anything else
-NO PARENTS?
wow, original
Another thing that shows the tremendous amount of wasted potential is definitely the concept of good demons.
I mean, it's been shown that demons can retain their humanity even after the transformation, and as long as Muzan doesn't have too much control over them or someone manages to break his curse.
Like with Yushiro and Tamayo.
So, why didn't Kagaya hire Tamayo to create some sort of division to convert the injured or dying slayers into demons?
Sure, that would have been quite risky, but it would have definitely proven to be pretty beneficial for the organisation, as they would have probably lost far fewer soldiers.
Heck, even Kagaya could have been turned into an artificial demon like Yushiro to prevent him from dying since that would have allowed him to give a hand to the remaining pillars and the main cast in the final battle against Muzan, instead of simply blowing himself up alongside his wife and children.
OH SHIT THE TURNING THE LEADER OF THE CORPORATION INTO A GOOD DEMON IDEA IS SO FUCKING KILLER WHAT!!
Huh
Thats a good point
it actually would help them out a lot since breathing is used to level the playing field, so why not just... double that?
I've just finished season one and I think my biggest annoyance with Demon Slayer so far is the treatment of Nezuko. She's one of the most severely underused characters in the show, despite being arguably the most important in terms of plot development, and I think that's largely due to the fact that Inosuke and Zenitsu started to take up way too much screen time per episode. They're occasionally funny characters who do little more than fuck with the tonality and even so far as undermine the integrity of the writing with the seemingly endless amount of slapstick they provide. They're needed comic relief at certain points, I realize, but there is such a thing as overkill and, in my opinion, the episodes that focus more on the Tanjiro/Inosuke/Zenitsu dynamic feel far more like filler than plot and just weren't as interesting to me. Inosuke and Zenitu's presences tend to interfere with the development of the most important aspect of Demon Slayer: the relationship between Nezuko and Tanjiro and their ever-changing circumstances. I think giving more screen time to the side characters did offer some positives but because it's a relatively short season of episodes in which to do that, it ultimately came at the cost of reducing Nezuko to little more than a symbolic presence rather than the deuteragonist I was hoping she'd be. I think it would've been more interesting to really see her abilities evolve alongside Tanjiro and possibly remove her muzzle in one of the later episodes to highlight how little of a threat she poses to humans.
Agreed, given Nezuko is my favorite character, I agree she needs more screen time
Nezuko is literally OP alongside Tanjiro. Probably the third to fifth most powerful character in the series. Just... you'll see later.
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I mean they manage to turn a blood thirsty zombie into a waifu. You have to give them this much^^
From the pilot I thought that Nezuko would be challenged more, split between her humanity and demon blood. Tanjiro would then have to grapple between protecting Nezuko from humans and protecting humans from her. But no tanjiro and Nezuko are just perfect and wholesome. I don’t think you can really blame inosuke and zenitsu for that, the two had become so boring that they needed more extravagant side characters to contrast them.
i love demon slayer and the title shook me , but seeing as ive watched ur entire anime portion i understand where youre coming from
also , i still love demon slayer , but i have to give this guy credit , he watched the entire season and read the entire manga before forming an opinion, that’s amazing 😔
My only gripe I had with the manga is it just felt rushed. The biggest stand out for me is Obanai his back story just felt like it was just put in there just to give him a backstory. If the manga didn't feel rushed I think I would've liked obanai and the later characters more. The only late charater I like is Sanemi but we had an idea what Sanemi's backstory was because of Genya.
I especially love how demons are just vampires and the powersystem is a worse version of Hamon.
i love how people don't realize it's a japanese show taking place in japan so it uses.. you know, japanese folklore ? they are not vampires
@@kinoo4496 i would agree with that but Koyoharu Gotōge once said one of the inspirations for Demon Slayer was Araki and since that clearly has nothing to do with the artstyle I think this is funny.
@@craftihlow69 there's nothing to agree or disagree about, they are onis lmao
just because he took inspirations from jojo and they have one or two vampire-like characteristics doesn't mean they're vampires
@@kinoo4496 They may have been inspired by blah blah, but they are basically vampires.
Nothing to get angry about, just an unintended fact that the author didn't realize when write them.
Also, it is more than one or two:
They are both immortals humanoid beings with inhuman traits, supernatural abilities, who consume humans (Eating vs. Sucking blood isn't that different, it is still consuming parts of a human), and they both are weak to the same three things: sunlight, a special fragrance (garlic for vampires, wisteria for demons) and a certain metal (silver for vampires, Nichirin Swords for demons).
@@POIUYTREWQ62 to begin with, oni are humanoids beings with inhuman traits, supernatural abilities, who consume humans. so yeah, author added one or two vampire-like characteristics, as i said. they have so much more in commun with oni than vampire, and i don't even know oni well so it surely is more than i think, we're just ignorant to that because it's not our culture
My problems with Demon Slayer could be shortened to one sentence: *"It is not explained, doesn't mean anything or is an asspull."*
I just want some consistency, I'm not asking for much, but I guess people nowadays just watch Battle Shounen for cool fights and the occasional comedic relief...
P.S, good video mate.
I think the only problem with Nezuko's characterization is that although she is a deutragonist of the series, as the series progresses, she has become lazily writed character as a lot of things about her either aren't given satisfactory explanation or any explanation. *(SPOILERS NEXT)* At the begining of the series, it was explained that she was different from other demons, such as having her own will, getting stronger by sleeping instead of consuming human flesh and blood and developing immunity to the sun. These were explained logically within the series' own universe, already Lady Tamayo stated, Nezuko having managed to adapt herself in a two-year coma to develop immunity to the sun, means that anyone in Nezuko's case could do the same. But while other demons need time to master their Blood Demon Arts (For example Yushiro (he is different from other demons because he's a demon that he was made by Lady Tamayo) managed to master his Blood Demon Art in maximum two years, Kaigaku died without mastering his Blood Demon Art.) how Nezuko managed to master her Blood Demon Art first use, how she managed to activate her abilities just when she needed them, and how she managed to become a skilled fighter capable enough to fight even some Upper Moons hand-to-hand with no training or experience (she able to defeat some Upper Moon members in combat also makes her stronger and more skilled fighter than some Pillars of the past generations and Pillars are well versed in sword fighting and breathing techniques.) The fact that so much is either poorly explained with saying "Nezuko is different from other demons." or unexplained inevitably. Explaining that she can do so much simply by saying that she is different from other demons brings to mind the second question: "What's different about her?" On the other hand, i've read many theories about that the reason why Nezuko is different from other demons is because her family has a connection to Sun Breathing and i don't agree with this theory because Takeo, Hanako, Shigeru and Rokuta are Nezuko's biological siblings, so they too are descendants of those who inherited Sun Breathing (a.k.a Kamado family), but they (or at least one of these four) didn't survive and didn't turn into a demon, unlike Nezuko. This theory also brings to mind a question: "If Nezuko survived and became a demon because her family has a connection to Sun Breathing, why didn't her other four siblings do these?"
Edit: In Kidnapper's Bog Arc, Nezuko displayed martial arts skills. Considering that the author's fans contacted them by letter, fans probably asked the author if Nezuko had been trained to learn martial arts, as a result, the author adjusted her fighting style to be simpler and more demonic for the rest of the series. In almost all battles, Nezuko starts out weak from her enemies, then comes to a point where she can fight them hand-to-hand, and even surpass them. This state of her was explained as her high growth rate because she's demon. But in ch. 127, Lady Tamayo explained that Nezuko's priority was to develop immunity to the sun. This situation presents the following problem; If Nezuko's priority is to develop immunity to the sun, demons other than her don't have that priority, but how can she have a higher growth rate than other demons, including most of the Upper Moons? I ignored Nezuko's situation at the beginning of the series as how demons work has not yet been adequately explained, but as the series progresses i realize that she is an exception even among exceptional demons; usually Tamayo and mostly Yushiro cannot fight hand-to-hand, but they are support and need to time and prepare to weaken their enemies; On the other hand, Nezuko can do anything and gain her powers and abilities in the middle of the battle, as long as related to the demons, with her anti-demon blood art she can do offensive attacks, nullify demons' powers and attacks, empower her allies' weapons to allow imitation of the Crimson Nichirin Sword, heal demon-related injures and poisons, also manipulate her blood to prevent her limbs from breaking off.
(Sorry for my English.)
Man really be the most thoughtful and wise with his words and then say “Sorry for my English”. By the way I agree with you!
I think you are nitpicking. Power levels are always inconsistent throughout every shounen. Not sure why you are complains about nezuko demon art.
@@Name-jw4sj Because it shows a easy writting flaw that could have been fixed. I love DBZ but im not gonna sit back and say that everything was handled perfectly.
Totally agree.
So basically nezuko is a Mary Sue because she's just built different 😂 never watched the anime or read the manga I will watch it but the author could have at least showed y'all nezuko train or something to explain how she is so op
Nicest thing tanjiro has ever done is mercy killing the 8th moons pretend mother with a clear water attack instead of a rapid water, when he realized she wanted to die. Which led to now pain but a calm somewhat happy death.
I'll be honest, reading though the Manga, some of the Character's storylines almost felt like the Mangaka was trying to say, in the most unrealistic way possible, "whats the most tragic backstory I can shove onto these characters?" (Akaza, Sanemi, etc) while some characters hardly got a memorable backstory at all (Muzan, Mitsuri, etc.). The story felt incredibly rushed in places. But I also find myself enjoying that it's not needlessly drawn out like One Piece or Naruto. But the characters that I love I REALLY love. Better than characters in most other anime like Shinobu, Tanjiro, and Tamayo. I was thoroughly surprised by the relevance of certain characters to the end of the manga and its still FAR better than many many anime.
I actually liked the tiny bit of Muzan's backstory near the end of the manga. Mostly to how he was linked to the idea of fighting against death. He wasn't some big over the top villain who wanted to reshape the whole world or someone who had his entire family killed in front of him he was just someone who was afraid of death. His little story about just barely living after nearly being a still born was a fascinating development and tied back to him not wanting to die.That manga panel where Muzan has come to the realization that despite everything he did to avoid it he was about to die, that is one of the best ways I've seen a shonen villain go out in my opinion.
He even shed a single tear as the sun was about to kill him, that really made him more "human" and you don't see a lot of these final villains in shonen go out in such a vulnerable way.
@@mysteryman9488 I see your point but I never really got why he wanted to kill people and turn them into demons
@@fourule9629 I think it was just so he could have more eyes searching for the Blue Lily with which he could use to make himself unaffected by the sun.
@@mysteryman9488 he's like voldemort from Harry Potter. But I wish they had gotten into detail about HOW Muzan became a demon considering Tamayo and Shinobu were able to pull off some detailed feats of science. The explanation fell flat. And i wondered, are there other demons in other countries?
@@tensai_kodai In Demon Slayer's universe, it's possible. Doma and Rui were able to turn humans into demons with their blood like Muzan, and who's to say there wasn't a demon with that power who traveled elsewhere to spread the transformation.
I read the series before the anime came out and I could not believe how much love it was getting.
Like Tangiro is a nice kid but he's so goddamn generic it's unreal- and the fights in general are just rushed to but dragged out far longer than they have any right. The pimp fight in the red light district comes to mind.
Then it just *ends*. Like hard ends. There's like 3 major fights in the entire series and they launch their attack on the enemy base and *nothing goes wrong*. The villain fight lasts like 400 chapters because it's dragged out like everything else and then everyone lives happily ever after. It's so insanely shitty it's unreal and none of the side characters that die are ones that matter at all.
Demon Slayer has good animation and that's literally it. The fact it beat out something like Mob Psycho is literally a crime.
the way how normal people and casual anime watchers really liked this show with good animation reminds me of how casual gamers shun games with old graphics and like ones with good graphics
@@ockertoustesizem1234 Or when a videogame has a fucking shallow and empty gameplay (Stray, Gris) they get praised for it, but when a videogame is complex and with depth (Monster Hunter, Death Stranding) they get criticized for it.
@@alfredoamendez4299 i think I have to remind you that complex=/=good and simple=/=bad.
@@shrouls It depends on the execution, but sorry man, Stray and Gris were fucking awful for me, especially Gris.
The fact that HxH had this whole development with Gon and Killua, is amazing. We could've had at least 10 to 12 episodes of a training arc. Something at least!
I think the death of Tanjiro’s fam and all the villain flashbacks are good examples of how often the story tries to tug on your heart strings. They were affecting in the moment for me, but outside of that shock value those story beats kind of lost their weight.
Damn…now that I think about it, they could’ve spent time during Tanjiro’s 2-year training “arc” to focus on Nezuko for once. I guess that would’ve required them to actually write her like a character, instead of parading her around as the cutesy sister/waifu bait/plot device/mascot character/fuel for incest fics/etc.
There’s no reason for Tanjiro to have met Kibutsuji so early, the mangaka really has a bad penchant for pressing fast forward on plot development…
I can’t even fathom why they would introduce most of the Pillars as essentially variants of the same character: mindlessly loyal to their leader and ignorantly hostile to the protagonist. Their designs are so ridiculous that you’re practically waiting for them to die. At least if there had been an interesting relevance between their fighting styles and the outrageous powers of the Moons, there’d have felt like a genuine purpose to them.
EDIT ONE YEAR LATER:
I still stand by everything I said…but I don’t know why my language was so hostile back then lol, my bad 😅🙏🏾.
I’m pretty sure the “ incest fics” are just the “fans” own fault. They don’t need fuel to do weird shit. Though everything else is agreeable
@@kraziscribbs4552Yeah fr. Considering how unfortunately HUGE the Pinecest fandom was, it's clear people will make fan content like that regardless of what is shown on-screen. You don't need to have incest bait or similarly questionable things for the fans to make that type of content anyway
How Tanjiro acted throughout the story made me forget about his family’s death. It really didn’t impact him that much, he was still the same even when his family was alive. I’m pretty sure someone coming back to their family’s corpses would traumatize and completely change them as a person, but in Tanjiro’s case, he just doesn’t?
It’s infuriating how Gotouge sidelined Nezuko so much. She was the ONLY SURVIVOR in Muzan’s attack, how come she “doesn’t remember”? It would’ve been a great idea if Nezuko gained PTSD from that experience and learned to overcome it. It would’ve made her more interesting as a character.
But NOOO, she has to be cute and awesome so she can be the mascot for the entire series, with no development WHATSOEVER.
Nezuko is personally my favorite character, and I wish she was in the hands of an actual good author instead.
Giving all the demons sympathetic backstories got repetitive real quick and many of the pillers were just annoying.
@@t1mburt0nsdandruffNo No she cant be badly written and also your favourite charecter your gonna have to pick one
My problem is a lot of the missed opportunities that could have been explored with some of the characters, villains in particular.
Spoilers below
For example:
I found that when Rengoku died I couldn’t really feel much because he was given so little screen time. It felt like we were being *introduced* to him when he died. There was a lot of missed potential for his character and while it’s fine to kill of characters early, it just didn’t feel right that he died so early to me personally.
On top of that, Enmu had a really great introduction to his character and it kind of sucks he was just sort of killed off and forgotten about. It seemed like he was going to be a dark horse, a lower moon that knows exactly what to say and what to do to become an upper moon. Someone we could have seen developed into a real threat. But nah he’s just another demon to kill.
These really interesting villains are treated like boss fights instead of actual characters so there’s barely actual development, other than sometimes “oh feel bad for their suffering” before being killed off. Its an extremely formulaic way of creating underdeveloped villains, making them like boss fights, and Demon Slayer does it so much.
The problem with doing this to your villains (or antagonists) is that it can becoming really boring really quickly since THEY are the main threat and THEY directly impact the conflict, and outside of the KNY fanbase I notice a lot of people think it’s boring/formulaic/underdeveloped (bc the conflict’s stakes don’t raise or change much).
I could also go on about Douma, or how it would have been cool to see more interactions between the demons, but that’ll keep my typing for hours.
Oh and you already talked about Nezuko and so has everyone else. SHE was a missed opportunity for sure.
Nezuko was the biggest missed opportunity in the entire series. She's personality-less, blatantly overpowered, yet still one of the most loved characters somehow. She doesn't have a mind of her own and just goes along with Tanjiro because??????
I would have liked it if once they found a way to cure demons, Nezuko refuses the treatment because the wants to continue protecting her brother and by becoming a human she loses all her combat abilities. It provides Nezuko with an actual character arc, and provides an actual emotional obstacle that Tanjiro has to overcome.
@@vronji Shes the most loved- and so are many of the characters- because the designs are amazing, but the characters are bland. Like outside of how adorable she looks nobody really talks about her unless it’s to criticize how personality-less she is.
@@Grimexx955 I don't know. I watched the Anime version. Not the movie. And I cried so much. I liked Rengoku so much and the first episode of mugen train arc was completely for Rengoku. So I personally don't understand what you mean. Maybe you watched the movie version and its skipping something but the Anime did it perfect.
@@tomgu2285 not only did I watch the anime version and the movie version of the Mugen Train arc, I also read the manga. I’m happy that you found Rengoku’s death tragic and you enjoyed his character, I just personally think he could have been done a lot better. I also don’t think he was as badly written as other characters so it’s kind of eh whatever… it felt to me like his character arc was being introduced when he died and it’s whatever, he’s not an mc or anything which is why Nezuko and the villains made me more upset.
Me after the looking at the title then thumbnail: Haha he's dressed like Zenitsu 'cause he's sleeping on it.
ah not the nice likes
I just noticed
oh my god
Ok, let me set that clear. Training arcs Are in General very boring, and the rush from the Mangaka is one of the few things I like about the Manga. HOWEVER, in HunterxHunter the Mangaka made a simple but genius thing, combining a Trainings arc with a Tournament arc, to give the Flexiblity & Action we need. It's an unique yet simple trick no one used so far.
Are you talking about the anime or the manga? because in the anime the training arc was perfectly done in my opinion. showing important parts while also making it not feel rushed, I mean jesus christ in 1 episode 1 year and a half passed, if you call that boring, you have the attention span of a goldfish
As someone whose read the entire demon slayer manga I feel like my time was just wasted. The series had potential but it was just so fast paced and quick to get to the end result that the ending didn’t even feel earned.
I watched that entire thing and realized by the end that I didn't even know why the main villain was the main villain. LOL. I've never heard of a more forgetable Final Boss. Fighting him is 10% of this entire story?!
When I think of the hatred the main casts of their respective anime have for Naraku, Frieza, Father, Aizen, Madara Uchiha, the World Government, Kyubey, the Anti-Spirals, Emperor Charles vi Britannia, Satsuki's mom, Kira... I could go on and on. It's so fundamental to an action story. You WANT to see everyone beat those villains' asses. You want to see them lose for everything they put the heroes through. What was interesting about Muzan?!
Muzan is hated because, well, he takes life for granted. Like really, he slaughters Tanjiro's family in the first episode just because he was looking for the slayer with those special earrings. Throughout the show, you see why the demons are the way they are. He manipulates people to fall into the dark side and takes advantage of their trauma to further his own goals and power. He instills a sense of superiority amongst the demons towards the humans enabling their dark desires. Which results in, well, death and slaughter.
Tanjiro is obviously the protagonist because of Muzan's connection to the death of his family, the corruption of his sister, and the history he had with his ancestor. But he also acts as the foil.
Tanjiro is young, empathetic, compassionate, and loyal.
Muzan is ancient, psychotic, manipulative, and uses people.
See the comparisons?
This ultimately leads up to the core theme of the show. _Empathy._ Tanjiro makes the effort to understand his enemies without forgiving their actions. That's why literally everyone has a tragic-ass backstory, to drive this point home. The difference between the Demon Slayers and the Demons they hunt is what they *do* with their trauma. Demon Slayers use their pain to empower and motivate them to protect others. Demons use their pain to hurts those that hurt them. And in doing so, Muzan stays at the top.
Demon Slayer is the quintessential shonen as it hits *a lot* of the same tropes. Outside its stellar animation though, is a story of people overcoming trauma and pain to do-to be, something *more* than their past.
@@sanguis_aeternus-x I appreciate your elaboration. No one else mentioned that Muzan actually did kill the hero's family. XD
I wrote this twice, and another conversation was had about it...
@@Cityweaver I mean even without the fact he killed tanjiro’s family, he’s the progenitor of the demons and the reason they exist in the first place. If you couldn’t understand why he’s the antagonist from the fact that he’s a thousand year old reject of nature that eats people and turns them into his minions so they can do the same, idk what to tell you.
@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf That I don't like stories about Chaotic Evil, irredeemable boogiemen that heroes can slay without any moral implications. Because it doesn't fit into my philosophy of what evil is.
"He isn't supposed to exist, he's a reject of nature." *shrug* I don't know what to tell you, friend. I never believed nature didn't have destructive forces in it in the first place. I'm not judging hurricanes and volcanoes.
There simply isn't anything interesting to talk about in a story like that.
@@Cityweaver
*Well, for once, Demon Slayer does add an empathetic side to the demons that are killed. They never wanted to become demons in the first place, they were just another human turning into one. Whether that be a child, a sibling, a father, or mother. Yes, their actions aren't forgiven but the effect it has on the plot, backstory, and characters only make it more interesting. It's like making a lego build without knowing how it's going to turn out even though you have the instructions.*
*Nature does have destructive forces. Floods, Volcanoes, Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Landslides, Earthquakes.. All of those things can be seen as destructive forces and yet what are they? A part of life/nature.*
*We've seen countless stories about those tropes, but if done properly it can make it interesting. It's just too predictable. Yet, it's entertaining to say the least.*
most of your points are completely valid especially your issues with pacing and how we're never told about the other forms till we see them, but I still enjoyed demon slayer a lot and I found it really enjoyable, and aswell I see a lot of people shitting on the ending and while it had issues I enjoyed it
I acknowledge it has a lot of flaws but I still love it
Demon Slayer did almost everything right, except for it’s writing and pacing (which isn’t so awful but it’s not great), honestly it’s easy to see why it’s so enjoyable. I personally don’t like the anime, but I can understand the hype, and i don’t think it’s bad.
@@boxpin8967 The characters and comedy sucks too by the way
@@sakuradabp6400 I don’t think the comedy wasn’t bad, it was the timing. Literally at the weirdest times they’d just start being goofy.
@@boxpin8967 Well, having the same "funny face" joke over and over shows how repetitive and bad it is
@@sakuradabp6400 bad≠repetitive. Honestly if I was attached to the characters and it was at a good time I would’ve found it funny the first or second time.
Something I haven’t seen anyone touch on yet is nezuko being turned into a human again while the Muzan fight is happening. Muzans whole goal at that time was to get to nezuko and eat her and he never gets the chance because of the potion that “by the way we just brewed this up last night lol” there were basically no stakes because she already lost her demon powers. Such a letdown of a series.
It’s been awhile since I read the manga, but I remember Muzan being a mediocre villain. His relationships with Tanjiro, Nezuko, the corps leader, and his servants were very underdeveloped.
I watched that entire thing and realized by the end that I didn't even know why the main villain was the main villain. LOL. I've never heard of a more forgetable Final Boss. Fighting him is 10% of this entire story?!
When I think of the hatred the main casts of their respective anime have for Naraku, Frieza, Father, Aizen, Madara Uchiha, the World Government, Kyubey, the Anti-Spirals, Emperor Charles vi Britannia, Satsuki's mom, Kira... I could go on and on. It's so fundamental to an action story. You WANT to see everyone beat those villains' asses. You want to see them lose for everything they put the heroes through. What was interesting about Muzan?!
@@Cityweaver i mean i agree with that but most of them just had a lot of time to develop since most of the series u mentioned are really long
@@babuebaguette7982 I would disagree. The ones you recognize are long. Some of the series on that list have 13-26 total episodes. Good writing can be long or short, ya know. I mean, by that logic, no movie villain is ever done well because you only spend 2 hours hating them.
It sounds like Demon Slayer just didn't build a deep connection sense of injustice between the hero and the villain, the kind of emotion you keep thinking about after you put the book down. The villain wants to kidnap the little sister, and that's a fine motivation, to not want your little sister kidnapped, but it's not the deep emotional connection that one thinks of when talking about the MAIN villain of the entire story. Any mook can kidnap your little sister.
Kyubey tricked the heroes into using the literal power of wishes to sign a cursed contract. Madara played a key role in continuing the cycle of violence that Sasuke and Naruto suffered. Father corrupted the soul of an entire nation, distorting the very meaning of alchemy. That's final boss of the entire series level hatred.
The last fight was just two kids saying “but actually I shoot you”
*dodge*
“You can’t do that”
*insert 4 mystery medicines*
Although I love Demon Slayer, my biggest critique of the series is the hyperspeed pacing.
WARNING:SPOILERS
I wish they slowed the show down and put more "normal" demons before and after the start of the lower and upper moon fights. And I wish tgat Muzan didnt just kill off all of the lower moons and instead still had them as challenges in the story. Maybe after defeating Lower Moon 2 and Enmu fighting then escaping Tanjiro, he could then get his upgrade for Mugen Train Arc.
Muzan’s motive for killing the lower moons doesnt even make sense. Like, if the guy doesnt want the demon slayers to find out more about him through his blood then why the hell is he still making new demons?
@@dubiousdeliquite6641 He killed them because they had no more potential. He is trying to get new stronger demons that's why. (I think)
@@LucasD08 eh, that still seems like a pretty dumb move for someone who is seemingly trying to lay low, considering he doesnt stick around to see how strong his demons are. Plus the fact that you even have to make a guess to explain his motives shows that they did a poor job of writing that part
nah I just don't read the manga
@@LucasD08 still, im talking about it as a show. It doesnt matter if they fix it in the manga, the show itself still blows
Found many of your criticisms underwhelming, so here is a rebuttal to help with the crucifixion:
*1) What is there to love beside the animation/fighting and soundtrack*
Many have argued that the series refines the Shonen formula; and if so then it certainly shows with the explosive popularity and success. So merits you forgot to mention include great character designs, straight-forward story, a portaganist that is genuinely kind without being incredibly stupid/naive at the same time, lack of cringey power of friendship asspulls.
Good story with a lot of potential + Great presentation = Great anime with the potential to stand with HxH with further seasons.
*2) Demons not being common knowledge*
Some people think demons exists while others consider them a myth; don't see the issue unless you assume that demons constantly leave a large amount of eyewitnesses escape (instead of eating them). Even low-level demons can move faster than what normal people can see. This makes immensely more sense than the existence of Nen somehow being a secret in HxH.
The Ubuyashiki family and the Swordsmiths DO want to be secret; the Demon Slayer Corps almost got wiped out multiple times and had to rebuild; all it takes is a raid from top-tier demons to their HQ, so a publicly known government building doesn't help. Most people are useless for fighting demons, so demons becoming common knowledge would spread panic without helping.
*3) Concise beginning arc and initial training*
This is not a fault with the manga/anime; this is a neccessity for modern Battle Shonen. Nowadays a new manga in Shonen Jump have ~20 chapters to get an audience and sell well before it gets axe'd/cancelled. Hence there is a need to quickly get to the 'good parts', so the protaganists of a new Battle Shonen either gets a timeskip where they go from useless to stronger than almost everyone or they start the series already being strong.
If this contributed to the success of the manga/anime, then it is a good thing. Plenty of people would find a detailed documentary infodumping the combat mechanics and story of characters who will immedietly be killed to be a waste of time and akin to fillers.
*Bonus:*
* There aren't instances of ghosts in the series: Um... there are plenty of ghosts communicating with characters in the series.
* No explanation for why people wih Black Swords don't live long: It is explained. Black Swords are associated with people with affinity for Sun Breathing, and after Yoriichi died, Muzan and Kokushibou made sure to kill everyone who learned Sun Breathing.
* No explanation for why Nezuko was sleeping: It is also explained. Tamayo said that Nezuko's ability to gain energy from sleeping, and her ability to not go berserk after not eating humans for a long time probably developed in her two years coma. Demons are shown to have adaptive evolution capabilities. Nezuko is possibly the first demon who survived for a long time without eating a single human, so she is special.
* Flashbacks: They can be excused by Tanjiro and other characters being empaths who can sense other people's emotions, so this helps connect the audience with the characters; for instance Tanjiro senses a demon's sadness and the audience also feels sad after seeing a sad flashback. Furthermore, it is very relevant to the themes; Tanjiro feels the need to empathize with demons because he is empathizing with his sister who could've ended up just like them.
*4) Lower Moon massacare*
This is a good plot twist; this is a simple story, but too much lack of originality can break immersion where characters and plots are seen as tropes. This is not only a subversion of climbing a linear and progressive ladder of an evil organazation's squad, but it hypes up the Upper Moons, and it raises the stakes even further since Tanjiro will now have to deal with immensely more dangerous foes to achieve his goal.
*5) Zenitsu*
He is someone forced to fight demons (in his position most people would consider his cowardice to be sanity and justified self-perservation), but despite his cowardice he is still willing to fight demons and sacrifice himself for the sake of helping and saving others. Which is endering, and his flaws allows room for growth.
Zenitsu is extremely popular among the Japanese audience (for instance, 2nd place in popularity poll), and is considered a much-needed comic relief in a dark series. So if he appeals to the target audience, then he is a well-designed character, even if you find the archtype annoying.
Also, getting into a mental state where your body and senses get stronger is a mechanic that is explained in the manga called "Repetative Actions". Zenitsu's trigger has to do with his grandfather.
-- Manga arc --
*6) Ranking*
The Pillar meeting was shown in the anime (which is supervised by the Mangaka); it is explained that the traditional recruitment methods can't keep up with modern times; the population growth and frequency of demon attacks increased too much. So the ranking system is obsolete during the time of the series, and cultivators are undertraining untalented people in an attempt to satisfy the demand. You basicly have mostly fodders with a few talented people, and the top-tiers. So the Demon Slayer Corps is facing an uphill battle.
It is explained that to be considered for the Pillar rank you need to kill a Moon; a volume extra also mentions that an other method is to have at least 50 confirmed demon kills (Himejima, the Stone Pillar, got his rank this way).
*7) Demon power scaling*
In the Pillar meeting it is mentioned that the current generation of Pillars is the strongest since the First Breathers (people who hanged around Yoriichi and were trained by him) which is why Kagaya is determined to be responsible for Muzan's defeat. An Upper Moon being as strong as three Pillars could refer to the average strength of Pillars throughout history; this doesn't mean that every single Upper Moon is stronger than every single Pillar who ever existed.
Enmu's plan was to lure in a Pillar, and then get even stronger by eating ~200 passengers in one go. He probably can't access his full power while fused with the train.
Tengen, the Sound Pillar, found UM6 sister Daki to be incredibly weak that he can't believe that she counts as an Upper Moon and casually blitz'd her. So being overwhelmed by Zenitsu's speed is not mindblowing. Furthermore, Breath users are consistently shown to be incredibly resistant to poison, even early on with Zenitsu and the Spider Brother; heck it takes days for Breath users to turn into demons and it is implied that they need to let it happen, but normal people turn within seconds.
A magical water prison barrier that specifically blocks solid objects doesn't break logic, and one of the Swordsmiths has strength that exceeds Tanjiro, so learning super-breathing techniques (that allows breaking a reinforced giant gourd through breathing) is plausible.
Akaza was just about to adap to being beheaded, but lost his resolve after remembering his past. Similar to Kokushibou being just about to adap to being beheaded, but losing his resolve after recalling his original goal of being a strong samurai and seeing the ugly form he took.
*8) Nezuko's power*
It is explained during the Rui fight that Nezuko's flames did not harm or burn Tanjiro, so her flames only burns demons. So it is plausible for her flames to only target demon poison (and yes, it is demon poison mixed within demon blood; he didn't consume man-made poison for it to be saturated within his blood).
It is explained that the reason Muzan was creating demons in the first place is in hopes that one of them will adapt to the sun. So his Plan A was finding the Blue Spider Lily, and his Plan B was create a demon who will adapt to the sun.
Supposedly, Nezuko's mental development was stunted because she was preparing to adapt to the sun the entire time according to Tamayo.
Props dude, props . Thanks alot for clarifying some of his points I really appreciate it. Thanks for giving the other side of the argument have a good day
Props man I read the whole rebuttal n damn you did yo research n I commend
1. In the video he said that he wasn't a fan of many of the characters, so while some people might found them great others might not, I myself wasn't very invested in most of them, I still can't rmember a lot of the names.
2. I agree, maybe he forgot about that while writting
3. I see what you mean but I stand with what he said, I don't like how the whole training didn't even took 2 episodes, I don't mind longer training arcs unless there's a lot of boring fillers, I think it should last at least a little bit longer
Bonus:
Maybe he didn't know these were ghost? Idk
I honestly don't remember that, was it in anime? I remember finding this answer on some websites like quora
I think he missed that when he was watching/reading at the beginning or maybe he ment something else...i dunno but he mentioned "that ghost kid" at that appears near end
While I didn't minded these flashbacks at first when they were being showed like that few times I must say I agree with JS
4. I think that's kinda the issue because of that "simple story with lack of originality" it can be easily overlooked, I also saw it as something not really anything special or even a good plot twist.
5. I see what you mean but personally I also wasn't a fan of him, I like that "despite his cowardice he is still willing to fight demons and sacrifice himself for the sake of helping and saving others", I like that but I really didn't liked these scenes where he was like a baby, I can understand that japanese audience likes him but I wasn't a fan so I'm not gonna complain and just say I don't like him as much as japan portion of the fanbase. So I am with JS on that one honestly
6. I think it should be showed more because maybe that's me but I prefer ranking as an evolution of a character rather then how many you killed
He mentioned that in the comment that he missed that because it was on one side panel, so I don't blame him for missing that, heck I also didn't known that completely (because I didn't read the manga) I was just guesting.
7. He also mentioned that in the comment about Enmu
8. Not gonna lie I also was kinda confused with that but mostly because I didn't known was that normal poison or demon poison
I think the main issue is that fans and people on internet really are overhyping Demon Slayer so much that I also expected it to be great but in reality I think the show is mid tier, it's great for beginners but I don't think it's as great for others. It's still good and unique to other shonens but I wouldn't call it the "best"
@@husariuspl117 Authors don't have the luxury so spend so many chapters for exposition nowadays, they canceled Masashi Kishimotos new manga, one of the most popular manga authors of all time after 40 or so chapters because the legendary author of Naruto couldn't adapt with the current industry, Demon Slayer would've been axed if it spend 10 or so chapters for training at the start of the series.
@@husariuspl117 Also this "It's good for new fans but it's mid tier" argument is so absurd at this point, people used to say the same thing about Attack On Titan, plus if a series is good enough to attract everyone "not just a niche targeted audience aka hardcore weebs" that's a sign of good writing.
How could you say something so controversial yet so brave?
not really controversial...
Cus he do be right
It's mid as fuck XD
Cause he's based as hell
It got kind of repetitive and boring at times in the manga. It's a better watch, but nothing to write home about
I agree with you I don't think it bad but the facts that it is compared to jojo, one piece, Fullmetal
@@TheMaskman2005 aot
@@Nicu-vy3gm Facts
Well said.
Every time the demon is killed there is a (supposed to be sad) backstory then tanjiro prays for them then the end.
No complexity at all. Even the characters are plain af.
@@-PH-Meenakshiiyer yeah the sad demon backstories came from nowhere, and it always failed to make me care for their deaths
dude got roasted back in the day when this was first created, now he's visionary hahaha he warned us about how mid ds really is and is now being validated because of it
8:12 honestly I feel like the reason there wasn’t a proper training arc was more because how early this is in the series. But I definitely think they could have had at least 1-2 more full episodes of him when he first uses the breathing technique and him adjusting to it. Plus they could maybe had him really struggling to learn even the basics of water breathing which could have been a very early hint about how his Sun Breathing, since his body is essentially conditioned for Sun Breathing ever since his Father taught him the Hino Kami Kagura
Demon slayer is carried hard by the animation, quirky characters and the MC not being a dipshit making stupid mistakes for the sake of the plot. He is too perfect though
Here's the thing, it probably would of been better if the defeat of Muzan was half the manga and the second half focused on nezuko taking tanjiro's role in an effort to save her brother like how he did for her.
I enjoy the anime but the Manga honestly makes no sense. Saying that the breathing techniques aren't real , so how does Rengoku stop Akaza's punches with flames ? How does Zenitsu use his technique and multiple people saying they heard lightning struck? Also Tanjiro using the water style to stop his fall but it isn't real , like wtf ?The government ignoring Demon Slayer corps but Demons literally killing people, some in the 1000s like really? The time jump is terrible, the reincarnation shit makes literally zero sense and seems pointless. Every other demon was vindictive , except Nezuko which is fine but when you know who becomes a demon is immediately evil like wtf .
Rengoku blocked them with the blade but also zenitsus footwork setup takes the form of lightning cracking , Tanjiro probably lands his fall with the sword sane way he braised impact with the blade and tamayo was not a killer
@@baroncrossspartan6388 Yet she killed her own family mate .
@@maxie0669 oh right sorry
But yushiro is not a killer atleast
“Half of the cast dies.” Oh boy just wait till you see Akame Ga Kill
"Half of the cast" is nice to say for Akame ga Kill. Like "all" would be better said.
Demon slayer is something that relates
JUDGE SOMEONE BY APPEAREANCE
Perfectly
Like its only popular because of the animation and op song
I don't even like the Op song
@@barnowl2655 take it easy.
@@ennuiblue4295 What? I just don't like it, nothing wrong with that.
@@barnowl2655
You’re in the whole comment section talking about how much you dislike demon slayer, like ok we get it
C h i l l
Also gurenge is a banger, can’t tell me otherwise.
@@omao4938 That's fine. I'm not insulting the song, I'm just saying that I didn't like it.
FINALLY SOMEONE HAS SAID IT. But really this show is good but ppl give it way to much praise.
I'm really starting to think that people mostly like Demon Slayer anime because of animation and artstyle and yes these 2 are some of the best I've ever seen but...I couldn't remember most of the characters, even after watching this video I still can't remember some of the names, heck when I was hearing them I was like: Oh yeah that was his name and then I forgot it again
"Finally someone said it" bruh....
How do you gauge what is "too much praise?" If it annoys you that there are people saying it is "the best thing ever" you can't fault them if it is the best show they have seen thus far.
@UCp4MOKtcodd1k28yZ5Ro56w bruh I've seen so many people hating on kny its not even funny
Really I haven't maybe It is cause i don't look into this shit
14:08 This has got to be my biggest complaint about the entire anime I have ever had. The series was doing good/fine with its poqerscaling and story progression up until that one goddamn scene where Muzan kills almost all remaining Lower Moons. It feels like a destroyed build-up and that parts of the whole story have all been skipped altogether. It was from that point on that I recognized there was something really fishy with the future pacing of the series...