Apples to Apples Part 1
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- This video is a WindBlue PMA/PMG to Freedom PMA/PMG comparison as used with my Stealth VAWT.
If you'd like to see Apples to Apples Part 2 try this link
• Apples to Apples Part 2
To see how I made the boom lift used in that video try this
• DIY Boom Crane
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Thanks for the informative video. Just my observation and not a criticism, but isn't all the load from the turbine on the PMA/PMG. I would have thought that the lateral and downward force would severely reduce the life of it.
That was one of my concerns as well. But both of these alternators use the same bearing found in automotive alternators and the Freedom PMA uses one in both front and back of the body. If they can handle heat from an engine and tension from a belt for thousands of hours of operation, they can handle a twelve pound turbine siting on top of them. Of course I might not believe that is true without testing that myself. I've been using a Freedom and Freedom II for my experiments for six years and counting with no bearing issues so far.
They're not bad units.
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Could you explain why a roof turbine ventilator would need to turn a generator? Why not put the magnets on the turbine hood and the coil around the base? Agreed it would be rather low voltage but in Louisiana it wasn't uncommon for there to be three or more of them on a garage/workshop roof.
Interesting thought. Put one together and show me.
@@LittleshopintexasSV I'll give it a shot if I can get my hands on parts and pieces. They really don't use them here in the DC area.
AT 7:36 I thought the cops were at my house again
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HOA's are impossible to deal with. That is why I never bought a home where I had to deal with them. I have a deed with no covenants or restrictions on it. No HOA for miles around me. It took two years to find what I wanted, a house with acreage on a tall hill. No flood problems, no nosey neighbors that will tell me what I can or cannot do on my land, and outside the city limits of any City. I have many Amateur Radio antennas, a rental spot for Caravans, a tree farm, and a future wind turbine to run the radios seperate from the mains on rechargeable batteries. I also restore old trucks of any kind. Truck parts are under cover in a pole barn (which no HOA would ever allow). If you approve of an HOA, you are certifiable communist crazy.
Excellent, sounds like a little piece of heaven. I'd never buy a property in an HOA either.
Unfortunately the municipality I live and work in, is trying to run itself like an HOA.
I am trying to find a way to leave this place for greener pastures (literally), but the opportunity hasn't presented it self yet. Thanks for watching!
I was just thinking wouldn't using a roll of plumbers tape around the top and bottom on the outside edge be a lot less labor intensive than all of the fittings you had to make and would not cost any thing hardly.
Missouri Wind and Solar is the best!
Need to lay it down horizontallly. I saw this in a video once and I thought I had saved it to my lists and now I can not find it. The propellors were in the shape of DNA.
Very good helpful upload thanks again, people like you are making America great.
oh really...? how is this poor design, and less than strong design and not showing us the amp output ( the true test ) ...making america great.?? ..( hint.....it isn't )
The world Great :D :D :D
Vibrations from the shuft turbine will kill your bearring inside generator... Put like a thik rubber layer between them and don't make that conection very solid...But the problem with your desing that u keep whole weight and rotational vibratiions of the turbine on generator shuft alone...
You are assuming my turbine is not balanced. You are wrong! And beside that, creating any amount of slack between the blades and the shaft will lessen the efficacy of the turbine.
Who told you that it was necessary to include that maddening music! I really would have liked listening to you! You are not singing and if you were its not in tune with the music! If I wanted a music video I would have looked in that category! What you're doing is important and worthy of our attention! Please sir! Don't let anyone convince you that you need to jazz up your video with that noise!
I am not a public speaker or politician, so really don't enjoy hearing myself talk. And since I had to watch this video over and over and over again during the editing process I added music just so I wouldn't drive myself crazy. The music I had to choose from came from the (very limited at the time) TH-cam audio library. And this was one of my earliest videos and shows my lack of editing experience. Hopefully I've struck a better balance in my later audio/visual work.
People and companies always want the big, standard turbine. I always say use multiple small VAWT's. VAWT's don't need the height or higher wind speeds and if one needs service you still get partial power
Great minds think alike.
Does your towns have regulations regarding bird houses? If not put a bird house on top, and the blades are pest deterrents. fixed ;)
if its cogging to much ,count the magnets inside and you may be able to take out a couple if you have 8 readjust where magnets are and remove 2.same as if you have 10,remove a couple.it will help.shape of magnets also make big difference.good video.
A little cogging is not an issue for this turbine and removing magnets would diminish power output of the PMA.
The music is a mistake. Showing long tedious actions compared to the end result... If you can do subtitles, you can narrate.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
I uploaded this video six years ago. It was the third one I ever put together. I am not a film maker, I am just a guy building things in his garage.
Instead of just criticizing the way people make their videos, you should live by example and show folks how its done...
But of course you haven't uploaded anything to prove your point.
I would not mount the turbine on the generator. I would put a pulley or gear and chained on turbine shaft to turn the generator. By sizing the gears correctly you could increase RPMs on generator shaft.
Sounds good. Show me... Keep in mind by adding resistance, more torque is required to turn the generator shaft. Also keep in mind, a generator under a load requires more torque to turn it in the first place. To create more torque requires higher wind speed or more blade surface. I'm not saying it can't be done. In fact, I'm in the process of redesigning the blades to create more torque for that reason. You may see it in an upcoming video.
Use high volt genrator.. Control volt with auto supply.. 220 volt to 16 volt
I thoroughly enjoyed watching the fabrication of Apple # 1. I'm more than envious of your well equipped shop.
You should see the shop now, about five years later.
Thanks for watching!
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As a fellow Texan, I'd say I'm obliged to do so. I'll definitely check out your channel.
Hi, very impressed with your manufacturing and design, so somewhat surprised when you used wire to hold the vanes equally spaced. Much easier and better surely to use some of the aluminium offcuts to make 25mm (or similar) wide spacers, which would do the job better than the wire, and much easier to fit..?
Will, while it would have been easier and possibly stronger it would have created more drag (resistance) and adversely affected the aerodynamics to a greater degree.
I noticed the new MWS pmg is a 48V but your multimeter set at DC volts never got above 25V when windy. So, this setup will never charge your battery just not enough rpm
There are a lot of variables to consider; Top wind speed for that day was around 8 MPH; A VAWT will never achieved the same high RPM of a HAWT; And different PMA/PMG are capable of different outputs. On the other hand, it's not a problem if your running a twelve volt system.
Please take out your back ground music it is too loud and irritating. I like your video
Sorry about the music. I made this video about five years ago and it was the third video I ever uploaded to TH-cam. While I strive to make each of my videos less loud and irritating than the ones previous, I'm afraid irritation is just in my nature.
Hlad I saw this I don't wsmt thpsr shot djarys. And poor thread, I'm going to cancel. Nearly moved pm 2 k with MWS, I don't see thru corrected, or came here to rectify the concern? Sloppy and high RPM bad combo
They have corrected the thread on the shaft and they've also added a key to prevent the hub from slipping. It doesn't have sloppy threads anymore.
To increase voltage you could wire in a buck/boost convertor. This would mean even more voltage at a lower speed.
That's a thought.
I wish I could have heard what you were saying... this looked amazing.. wish it had no music :( Your voice sounded so soothing :)
Sorry about that, this was one of my first videos and I hope I have improved since then. Thanks for watching!
I wish
People want to hear YOU, Or nothing. Let the ambient noise be your voice if you're afraid of speaking. This music bed is maddening. I can't recommend this to my hacking friends. It's too rough.
Please excuse my inexperience and lack of confidence in front of the camera. This video is from a few years ago and only the sixth one I had created. I hope my video style has improved since then.
Hello my friend ... I speak from Brazil, good work. I'm fascinated with this kind of work, creativity, perfection at every point. I Liked, and I signed up for your channel. Congratulations.
Thank you for the kind words, and thank you for subscribing to my channel.
2:18 - "It doesn't take much effort to turn it" - but you're not driving any load. Try short-circuiti9ng the output wires, then try turning it by hand.
Many people had said that the cogging of this brand of PMA was so bad that it would prevent the blades from turning in low wind. I just tried it to discover the truth.
And to short all the wires together creates a braking effect which some systems use to protect the generator in high wind. That does *not* represent a generator under load.
Here in Scotland, first one is free. After that you have to apply. Tower has to be 5-10m but it includes turbines and heat pumps. If you already have a heat pump, you have to apply
Have you considered the RV market? The turbine would need to be a smaller diameter- my RV is 11' 1" total height (this is to the top of the AC- the highest point on the RV). What I'm thinking is an 18" turbine (11' 1" + 18" = 12' 9") positioned to turn while traveling down the road with a swing arm that would bring the turbine from horizontal to vertical while parked. I do not have the height of the AC on my RV at hand, so the turbine mounted on the roof could actually be a little larger than the 18" originally suggested, but this market is wide open for alternative power. People are putting in larger and larger battery banks to store the few hours of solar, when your turbines would run 24/7 with less weight than the battery banks. And for those already invested in solar, your turbines take up so little roof space, they could be added and supplement the solar (really out-perform the solar). Consider batteries at full charge with inverters to run TV, microwaves, coffee pots, toasters, whatever the weather- rain or shine. Just a lot of possibilities...
wind machines...as you drive.....excellent........storage is needed but easily doable........rv prius...makes more energy than it uses!
I know some residents in one town were able to create and build "corner" turbines on each of the 4 corners of their homes. I did not get any specs or product names but they were long vertical systems built right into the walls and the vane and geny system could be accessed and changed out when needed.
That type of setup will definitely be a future project if I can ever accumulate enough money for the project. Thanks for the comment.
try doing your videos without FRIGGING MUSIC.... people would rather hear the wind blow and turbine moving than frigging music!!!!
What's your Dill Ron. You're bitchin' about one of the first videos I ever uploaded over 6 years ago. I bugs me too, but I can't go back in time to fix it. I like to think my editing has improved since then.
Hi, I am Abhishek from India. I am interested in your product. I want 3 kw wind energy generator. I don't like solar, as heat here is little less. But wind speed is 20-40 full day. Give me price. I also want to start new business in India.
If you want to make 3 kw of wind energy you'll need a large horizontal type wind turbine. My little vertical axis turbine can't produce that much power.
This may be off topic, but someone might find it interesting.
Over unity electric generator. By AMA.
Segment 1: 1 motor with bar connected to it standing vertically. Circular disc connected to bar that has magnets embedded in it surrounded in high permeability material to focus magnets outward pushing force in an upwards direction from top of disc.
Segment 2: Hollowed out cylindrical Bar of material horizontally positioned.
Flat hollowed out ring shaped material with openings around its outer top flat edge.
Magnets surrounded in high permeability material embedded in these openings.
Magnets positioned in openings around ring are in at least 1 of 2 configurations either all N magnetic field pushing out or N,S,N,S all around it. Just depends on whether your going for Piston structure or spinning structure explained below & whether you want it to be DC or AC current.
Place these all along the cylindrical bar connected to it solidly, except at far ends of bar.
At both ends of bar place ring of material that can be magnetically repelled in specific locations. (magnetically repelled in specific location is in reference to outside of ring area that faces away from center of bar)(Other side of same ring facing in towards center of bar is capable of being magnetically repelled all around) Ring must be connected solidly to bar. points of repulsion on these rings is off set from each other on each end of bar.
3 Hollow ring structures with small square bars protruding from each. Ring structure has all magnetic repulsion on inside of ring shape & can rap around the main bar so that the bar wont be causing friction on things as it moves back and forth or spins. 1st positioned around far left of bar, 2nd position at center of bar (be sure to leave enough room for magnetic structures to be able to move back and forth without hitting it) & 3rd positioned on far right of bar.
Tube structure is constructed in two parts that fit together on top of each other length wise over main structure.
Tube structure has 3 square openings for the bars that the Ring structures that are connected around the main bar keeping it from causing friction on structure, to slide into.
This tube structure is designed with material that does not block magnetic fields. Perhaps some type of transparent material glass or other.
At both ends of the tube structure there is a built in circular groove that will house a round disc. The ceiling/floor/left side/& right side of groove has openings for small magnets to be embedded in it, so that the pushing force from magnets is pushing in towards the edge of disc that goes in this spot. There is also 4 openings located on the top, bottom, left & right positions of the open groove. Small magnets are placed in these spots so when round disc is in position these magnetic fields will hit sideways keeping it from generating friction against structure.
Far Ends of bar has Cap structure that screws over tube halves holding them together. Cap structure also has 4 points on inside top, bottom, left & right that have openings. These openings have small embedded magnets in them that exert there pushing force outwards (sideways) so it will keep disc in position, generating no friction against structure. Cap is made of material like tube so it does not block magnetic fields. (Note: These magnets in groove and cap structure are only needed for piston design. If Disc is directly connected to main bar so as it spins the bar spins, magnets are not needed here).
The disc has ring around it (ring of material goes around outer edge and folds over front side & backside a small distance) that is repelled by magnetic fields so the 12 small magnets will keep it lined up but it will be able to spin without causing friction on structure. The disc has openings on it's flat side that face inside of tube and magnets surrounded in high permeability material are embedded in this disc.
The disc has small bar that is connected to it's center that goes all the way to the other end of bar structure through the center of the hollowed out bar and connects to disc on other end. Disc on other end is set up the same but magnets embedded in it are off set in comparison. As first disc spins the magnetic fields will push against specific spot on disc connected directly to bar, pushing bar in other direction, once bar is fully pushed over, further spinning of disc will then align the other sides magnet to push it back.
Tube structure also has half moon shaped protrusion on inside and on both halves so when tube is connected they line up to make a full ring shape on inside of tube, these half moon shaped protrusions have at least 1 small round opening on it's side in middle of curve that faces away from center of bar. The opening has a small magnet embedded in it so magnetic force is repelling out sideways away from center of bar. The protruding ring is positioned to line up slightly further in towards center of bar then the ring of magnetically repelled material connected directly to bar. This way when bar moves right or left it is magnetically stopped after a short distance.
Copper coil setup: Copper coils are wound in at least 1 of 2 ways. Either coiled in circles next to each other (Like if you wound coils around a cylindrical bar) or laid out in a row as if wire was on flat table going up then bent to go down & back up until it formed a flat rectangle of wire bending up and down and then the entire structure folded around tube. Copper windings are then lined up perpendicular to magnetic fields on outside of tube. Ends of copper coils are connected into separate construct that will allow electrical current to flow somewhere else.
Circular construct is built like a stand that goes around the outside of motor segment. Circular construct has flat ring of high permeability (magnetic field shielding) material that has small openings that will allow magnetic fields through specific locations. Top of circular construct has groove to allow the horizontal bar to balance on. Circular construct can also be placed on other end of bar so it is balanced. The motor segment is positioned so the disc connected to the bar that is connected to the motor is lined up so the disc passes under the horizontal bars disc that is at end of horizontal bar. The high permeability material keeps the magnetic fields in disc from hitting into the disc that spins or pushes the horizontal bar until just the right moment when the impact will cause the disc in horizontal bar to spin which will perpetuate the piston motion in the horizontal bar. More horizontal bars of the same design are built and positioned around the motor segment in a circular horizontal fashion all the way around. The bar connected to the motor can be increased in length to desired height (As much as motor can handle) and more of the exact same setup is repeated higher and higher up, maximizing the over unity potential of the construct to ridiculous proportions. :D Current from the horizontal bars is diverted to power the motor as needed and all other current is diverted to power my game console or the world. :) Interesting variation to this design would be to connect the spinning discs on far ends of horizontal bar to main bar that magnets are connected to so the magnets spin instead of getting pistoned back and forth. So long as moving magnetic fields are perpendicular to copper wires it should work. By AMA
OK, show me.
All your trouble with threads and shaft sizes and a mix of metric and imperial, why in the hell doesn't America just ditch imperial altogether and go metric? That would solve all your problems.
Even little Australia has been metric since the mid 1960s. People here adapted within a couple of years after they finally admitted it was so much easier!
Some of the old guys complained but I used to tell them to throw away all their tape measures with feet and inches because they were trying to convert from one to the other all the time. It's not hard to learn the approximate size of a metre, or a centimetre, or a millimetre.
If the system is made easy, then its one less thing to complain about.. Whats the fun in that?
Very nice, your turbine is ecstatically pleasing and makes electricity, win win. Did the alternator act as a wind brake at about 21 volts? Have you tried a vane, to shield half the turbine so it doesn't push with the reverse of the paddles? I am considering a build for us, as we live off grid entirely, any electricity is a plus enjoyed and subscribed
At 21 volts? All I can say is any load adds resistance and will slow the RPM of the turbine, but since my system is twelve volts all I need is 14 volts to charge my batteries. When I built the first small model, I built a shield that would spin around to point into the wind just like a horizontal wind turbine does. But in turbulent wind the shield always had to move into position before the turbine could spin. If the majority of the wind in your area comes from one direction a shield might be practical. But in my area, when I get wind it can be crazy turbulent and change direction constantly. And it's in that turbulent wind that a VAWT has the advantage over a horizontal wind turbine.
Thank you for your response. Here the wind is all over the map and low speed, (mostly) The vane I saw on I think it was tesla, is part of the whole deal and the generator is mounted in it, In NW Montana we don't get enough wind or sun to do a good job but combined?? Your videos have me interested in wind again East and Central Montana have commercial wind farms but here alternative energy is just not being used, We try as do a few others but cost to production is not favorable, Power company quoted 96K to bring us a monthly bill of about $100. on an already to tight 700 a month budget. Don't see that happening! Thank you again for your inspiring videos
You and I have a very similar budget. The last several years of running my newsstand our average combined income for my wife and I has been around $12,000 a year. After we pay $3000 in property taxes our annual budget in around $9000. Taxes are hard enough to manage on a budget, but keeping the air conditioners running through the warmer months in Texas can be just as bad. It's that reason that I started experimenting with this vertical wind turbine design.
Soorry to hear that, for heat I can go cut wood, or get sawdust from the mill to use shredded paper (junk mail) and make logs with, that helps it it the lighting that gets us in winter time, need them on the whole time your up. For a oven try the box portion of a defunked freezer, paint it black place in the sun after you electric charge the and then spray on the powder, allow the parts to preheat the box will do the job, like you said cheap good fast choose two Great job I hope it works out with the wind turbine, afterr you get it all worked out send me a pdf file, with the turbine and the datat plus prices Wind and solar places here are hungry for new products.
@@LittleshopintexasSV pls can i buy this project?i am in Bangladesh.. apurbo747gmail.com..pls
This suggestion would add wind load to the mast but, make a deflector for the upwind rotation that is also on bearings with a vane to rotate the deflector. This would block the wind striking the upwind rotation and give all the power into the downwind part of the vanes. Just a for what is worth suggestion. Nice work with this video.
I played with this idea on my original small scale model that I tinkered with on my desk at work. The deflector had a tail that was guided by the wind much like your standard horizontal wind turbine. The tail aloud the deflector to rotate around the turbine depending on what direction the wind was coming from. The issue with using that idea with this turbine is; to support the deflector in high wind, it needs to be mounted both below and above the center line it rotates around. But there's no center shaft on top that it can be mounted to. I have another design in-mind that includes a deflector. I just have to wait until I have the money to try it.
2 questions: 1. the total cost for one including support post. 2. bad weather stability & fail.
thanks for the videos, good stuff to think about.
I have not yet been able to buy enough materials to workout any wholesale deals with a supplier, so the cost of materials runs close to five hundred dollars for each turbine. That's not including the PMA! It may not look like it but there are a lot of parts to this turbine. As far as bad weather stability goes, a hailstorm with large hail might beat them to pieces. But no thunderstorm has caused any damage to them since 2014 when these were built.
HI ANDREWS I HAVE QUESTION FOR YOU IN YOUR EXPERIENCE CAN THIS TURBINE BE GOOD I LIKE EXPERT OPINION THIS A SKY BLUE 1000 TURBINE MAX OUTPUT 10000 WATTS 20:1 SEALED GEAR REDUCED 6 BLADE SYSTEM SCH 40 UV PROTECTED FLEX BLADE FULL 360 WIND DIRECTIONAL 4 BRUSH PERMANENT MAGNET STEEL HUB 49V-25A= 1000 CAN YOU GET ME YOUR OPINION PLEASE THANK YOU JOSE.
Насадити лопаті на ва генератора- дикість. По нормальному хочаб лопаті змістив униз щоб розвантажити підшипники від бокового навантаження. А правильно буде застосувати стабілізатор обертів, варіатор.
I have another design with blades that extend down below the generator. th-cam.com/video/cUqxV5QXVqk/w-d-xo.html
The pole could do with a little more bracing or stay wires maybe, good vid, good job!
enjoyed your video very much, lots of the videos on TH-cam are make by people without enough knowledge or experience, yours are very professional.
Why does everybody have to Put Music in their Videos instead of Just Talking
You know the answer to that; some people aren't comfortable with public speaking.
Why do some people ask stupid questions? Because it's easier to be a jerk than to get along.
We’re looking for something to install over our house. Looks great.
Is it working now? Feb 2021; two ideas: Igus ballbearings (solid lubricants) and a gravity battery
Different paint job, but yes it's still working.
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That is too bad about the thread issue for the shaft problems. I would order 10 or 12 of them and tell them in a letter with the check that if they don't send what you want, that you will ask for your money back and they will pay for the return shipping charges. What kind of on an outfit are they running??
I got their attention and they corrected the problem on all shafts made after that. Jeff also offered to send me a replacement of one with lower power output. I declined the offer because the loose threads were not that much of an issue for my application.
@@LittleshopintexasSV I am glad you got thart issue resolved and good luck with you business.
Good video except for the very annoying background music.
Sorry about the music, but thanks for watching anyway.
I would think that the wind turning the turbine blades would put a lot of pressure of the generator shaft.
Yes! But you have a similar pressure on an alternator shaft in your car. When a serpentine belt (one belt) wraps though and around; crank shaft, water pump, smog pump, air conditioner, and alternator. And it has to be tight enough to drive your air conditioner without squealing, thats a lot of pressure as well. Good bearings in both front and back of the body will make a difference in the life of that alternator.
Great video! Would be even better without the music. You really don’t need it. (The music I mean)
Yep, I've heard that a lot over the past few years. We live and learn. Thanks for watching anyway.
Very interesting but that music is painfully awful. I would much rather hear you narrate.
Sorry about that! I hope my creative style has improved a bit since I uploaded this video three years ago.
Realy enjoyed this posting your turbine is exactly what I want but I am going to the local council to recycle one of their lamp post for my turbines post. Hope they don't charge me much though haha
I wish I could find second hand lamppost near my place.
Little Shop In Texas the highway maintenance have a stock pile of the lamp post as they have replace them for larger ones with LED LIGHTING, I will be paying them a visit when I buy my plot of land to go off grid. All the best with your future work
Total respect
ALAN
If those tubines can turn at high speed winds without any problem the tubines can be used to charge batteries in electric cars. Otcan be redisigned for cars.
Maybe...? Thanks for watching!
I am a welder and the paint always works 😂👌I'm looking into this kind of challenge and your design now the best I've seen for output and be able to duplicate, thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍 the world's a better place with home made elections 👌
Thanks for watching! 👍
Have you thought about cable stays for the main turbine post, might halp to anchor it and keep it steady in high wind.
Yes I thought about it, but shortly after I uploaded this video I converted the pipe from the mast into fence post to repair a break in my fence. The turbine sits directly on top of my shop now. I have plans to build a tilt up, telescoping mast once I have the money for materials. The income from the ads in my videos goes toward future projects.
Thanks for watching!
Why are people dumb enough buy houses where HOAs can dictate how you use your property.?
Some folks don't have a choice. I'm not in an HOA but the city council is trying to run the entire city like an HOA. Just a bunch of *"&^!!$#/+"* if you ask me.
I liked your creation of the wind turbine. But how did you make those blades ?
Like this th-cam.com/video/ziFJGGthC_U/w-d-xo.html
That's what I want what it again please thank s with the berents
Any wire strong enough to hold a Gar is good in my book. I hate those river alligator teethed monsters.
They may be mean and ugly, but they sure are fun to catch.
Hey, thanks for watching!
If this generator only turns one way what happens if wind is blowing opposite its ability to turn?
The generator/alternator works in either direction, but the threads on the shaft are right hand or clockwise. So as long as the turbine is installed to turn clockwise it stays mounted. Otherwise it may unscrew itself.
Good job, but I don't like the amount of sway in that pole, it's scary.
I didn't like it either.
Rotating at only 60 - 120 RPM you're not going to get much output from it. I think about 100 watts.
How much power does it take to charge batteries?
@@LittleshopintexasSV Depends entirely on the kWh rating of the batteries.
@@richysee The turbine power output depends on wind speed and the output capability of the PMA/PMG that the turbine is driving. In this video I was comparing the WindBlue PMA against the Freedom PMA. The WindBlue probably was about 80 watts at 100 RPM. The Freedom puts out about 160 watts at 100 RPM and the Freedom II (a different video) puts out about 300 watts at 100 RPM. Now, depending on the the load being drawn which causes resistance, 100 RPM happens in winds speeds between 8 - 10 MPH.
I would never claim this turbine will run a house, but it will charge batteries.
HI ANDREWS MAYBE I DON'T EXPLAIN MY SELF GOOD ENOUGH BUT IS NO 10 KW IS I KW SINCE THE MWAND S IS 1600 WATTS I THOUGHT IS THIS IS 1000 GEAR REDUCED I THOUGHT MAYBE IT BE BETTER ONE BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM GET THE MWANDS ONE SINCE YOU HAVE ALL THE MEASUREMENT FOR THE ONE THANK YOU JOSE.
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Cool vid but red font is not really readable 😜
Hi.
Look very good. Can you show performance on power production.
Sorry, this video is from a few years ago and I don't have these turbines anymore. But frankly, because of the deep freeze we suffered in Feb 2021, where we had sub freezing temps continuously for several days with overcast sky (poor solar) and dead calm (no wind) and I had no power for 27 hours, I have fallen out of love with this idea. I still think it has value, but I can't count on it when I need it most.
The voltage measurements don't mean much without current alongside it.
In the next experiment/video I compared the two PMA's in use by moving them to my roof to let the wind drive them. I only have two meters, but if you watch the whole video you'll see that I switch from volts to amps and back in order to get a better idea of wattage they produce.
This man got class, even in the shop he wares a white shirt :)
What is the specs for the PMG you put on there ?
I don't remember all the specs but they are easy to lookup. The car alternator style PMG is a WindBlue low wind PMG, windbluepower.com.
The other is a 48 volt Freedom PMG, mwands.com/store.
Each respective website has their specs open for perusal.
thank you. All the best in the new year to you sir .
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Gostei do vídeo, parabéns
Thank you for watching!
Did you contact MissouriWindandSolar about the slop in the nut to shaft? for what you have to pay for the freedom I'd hope they would correct that!
Где купить тихоходный генератор ?
I bought the generator from Missouri Wind and Solar.
Good work, but the music was a bit loud when you spoke.
Thanks for watching, and sorry about the music. I uploaded this a few years ago without realizing it would be an issue; I've tried to do better since then.
I would like to know if you make this product anybody else the same parts and the same wind turbine for other people your design is very unique and what would the cost be to duplicate the same wind turbine. I have the same PMG as you have on that video I would like to have the rest made by you if it's possible please get back to me mike
what is with the voltage test, why not wattage?
I used to be a welder in the 1970’s during college. Although welding for me was sticking 3/4” metal together. Haha. It is a good weld if it sticks together.
if slightest wind is enough to turn it... hmm mount it off the center with some gear reduction ? 1:2 ratio ? 1:3 ratio ?some cilinders with a belt
Been there, done that.
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Little Shop in Texas Brother Awesome Video! If you stabilize the stand wouldn't it pervent the whipping effort and prevent breaking of parts? Why didn't they use Stainless steel bearings then no problems? Thank You for Your Time!
Guy wires would have helped, but I couldn't use them without anchoring at least one on a neighbors property. Thanks for watching.
Guy wires to the pole just beneath the turbine for stability?
Yep, that would help. Thanks for watching!
Very nice work. I've seen to many youtube videos where someone makes very unsightly projects. something I would never want in my yard. Do you have any idea on an average how much money you save on electricity with this? Keep up the good work.
I have no idea. I haven't had the money to invest in the remainder of the system. But even if I did, wind doesn't visit my place as often as I'd like. Solar is much more predictable... Thanks for watching!
THANK ANDREWS FOR YOUR PRONTO RESPONSE BUT I LIKE WIND TO SUN NO SHINE AT NIGHT JAJAJA THANK IF YOU GOING TO SELL YOU VAWT LET ME KNOW AND THE PRICE THANK YOU JOSE.
I tried i tried hard but the background music ran me off.
Sorry about that. I don't care for my earlier videos either.
A very good put together video on how to do one yourself. Liked it a lot!!!
*Thanks!*
hello
Please write me the exact model of the generator shown.
The generator in the box is a 48 volt Freedom PMA from Missouri Wind and Solar, the other is a WindBlue low RPM PMA from WindBlue.
Horrible music
Blame google for that.
I could only use music available through TH-cam.
very nice but you need guy cables the mast will break after a while with that flexing
Yep I know, guy cables or a larger diameter mast. Eliminating sway in the mast would also help the turbine run more efficiently. But i'm a pauper so I use what is available to me.
Thanks for watching.
dont know if you have tried 1 but treadmill motors work great
I have one but I haven't tinkered with it yet. Maybe that will be a future video.
look forward to seeing it
May I ask the weight of such a wind turbin? I wanna get heavier duty one..but stronger, designed into a kite, to fly at 200-300' up in air.. to general energy for me on. Have a 52' solar powered sail boat. I want turbin to charge batteries and the kite gives me another 6-7 knots of wind speed/lift..
The turbine itself weighs about 13 pounds and could sit on top of your mast to generate power. but I can't see it working as a kite.
Good morning you, thanks again
I enjoy the knowledge but I have a hearing problem so hearing you over the music...well, could you make them without the music?
Sorry about that. This was a few years ago, hopefully you'll notice some improvement in my later videos.
@@LittleshopintexasSV thanks, I suffer from:
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So I'm sorry if I sounded our of sorts about it, I was just having a bad hearing day. I apologize for my crabbiness.
@@leepinnguin9682 Its not a problem, I understand and I won't hold it against you. Everybody has their bad days and you wouldn't want to interact with me when I'm having mine. I hope today is a better day for you.
I would like if you would make me a wind turbine as your video because I have the same motor and I would like your turbine to fit my Moda the same as your motor from the same company if you can give me a phone number I would appreciate that this way we can talk. But I think that the turbine that you make is very unique and I like the way it operates so all I would need it's just a blades the brackets and the mount please get back to me Mike
I would rather not give out my phone number in youTube comments. Please use the contact us page on my website where you'll find three different ways to contact me directly. I'll talk to you soon, Andrew.
www.littleshopintexas.com/contact-us
Why tthe loud noise in the back ground?
It's been a while since I uploaded this video, so I don't know what you're hearing. But my property faces highway 377 (a busy 4 lane street) and it's surrounded by business. Watch part two and you'll see what I'm talking about when I take the comparison to the roof of my building. th-cam.com/video/yB4Ze3TRS9s/w-d-xo.html
I would like to know if you could make the same wind turbine like you have on your video because I have the same PMG in the same company but I like your wind turbine because it's Unique. Like I said I have the motor I just need everything else please get back to me Mike
I've made a few improvements to the blades since I uploaded this video. I would be happy to build one for you, but keep in mind each turbine is custom made and takes six to eight weeks to build. I don't order materials until I've received a 50 percent deposit to cover the cost of materials.
Check out my website for prices on the parts.
www.littleshopintexas.com/parts-and-prices
Yes I would like to have that turbine made from you but keep in mind I do not need the motor with PMG because I have the same one that you have on that video so can you give me a phone number that I can get in contact with you speak to you about building me one I would really appreciate that for your time to make that when turbine thank you Mike
I would rather not give out my phone number in youTube comments. But there is a contact us page on my website where you'll find three different ways to contact me directly. I'll talk to you soon, Andrew.
Hi. Have you tried using stainless steel welding wire used in MIG welders? It is 1.6mm dia. and would be ideal for this to strengthen your blades and maintain spacing.
FAB! Even at ground level!👍🏼
I think a car alternator works just as well or better.
A car alternator requires current flowing through its coils to create the electromagnet which can then charge the battery its drawing from. How is that better than an alternator that doesn't need any outside current to work?
voltage is not power
_Voltage x Amps = Watts_
*Watts = Power*
Dear Sir how well do you think the Nylok S/S nut would work . they are the "Aircraft" locking nut with Nylon insert .. I'm pretty sure they will take care of your needs !!!
I uploaded this video back in 2014. I'm sorry, I can't understand the reason for your suggestion without re-watching the video.
Man no disrespect but man that’s light duty, it sure is a start, one major problem I see with there design using for a vault is the stator is open to the weather. Also with the amount of blades, your RPM will suffer for sure. I’m going to check back after your up for a couple of years.
I designed this for my area. Maximum height allowed without a permit is forty feet. Which is the average height of trees in my area. We also get the occasional tornado and quite often get hit with 80 mph wind. There are no other wind turbines in use within miles of me for these reasons. And yes top rpm is lower with twelve blades but it produces 14 volts in a six mph breeze which is all I need for my 12 volt batteries.
I'd also like to point out, I uploaded this video a few years ago and there had been one of these on my shop roof for few years until a storm threw a canopy at it. I have since repaired, repainted and put it in a higher place.
I see I live in the sticks. My closest neibor is 1/4 mile away.
It must be nice. I miss the fresh air, starry nights and the quiet life in the country. Well, maybe not always quiet but you know what I mean.
Yes very quiet except for harvest time, Semi’s everywhere. Most of the year all I here is the wind through the trees and cattle mooing, My big Horn sheep asking for food all the time, even when they already have all they can eat. Winter is even quieter.
Buddy, what type of alternator you used, we are having problems in selection of alternator...and you didn't use gearbox..??
In this video I compared a WindBlue low wind PMA to a Missouri Wind & Solar Freedom PMA. The WindBlue uses an automotive alternator body and the MWS Freedom uses their own cast aluminum body. Both use neodymium magnets instead of the electro magnets of a standard alternator. Both use 17mm stainless steel shafts.
The magnet assembly that had the magnetic shaft might be a good candidate for magnetically levitated bearings. No physical contact so no resistance which would increase efficency I beleive. Just a suggestion.
That's something I thought about, but I prefer to do it this way.
th-cam.com/video/0ZAmk6n2b3g/w-d-xo.html
I would just make a top and bottom and screw the wings on . just need a cutter to make a bunch of wings and tops. and shafts to alternators wonder if you could put two on one pole?
You can build yours any way you like, and yes.
I'll take 1 how much? excellent craftsmanship way better than store bought. could you make one to set horizontally on a shed roof?