I love revisiting old Tuff Fish vids! Miss the hell out of this guy. Magic612 was also fantastic. Was also great to see Tuffy actually have a great session for once
"It's kind of a coin flip" It probably isn't. Tuff is agressive pre flop, with a lot of hands, and it's common for players, with marginal hands to re-raise because they'll get frustrated at the constant raised preflops. His game plan finally worked, but doesn't understand why. LOL! It's why I love Tuff Fish so much. He's so dam entertaining. "Oh CRIMINY!" I do understand Jackal's call on the river, but have no clue why he'd call a raise with 10/7 out of position.
@allankay12 Villain is the general term used to describe the opponent (hero for yourself). when discussing poker hands In this case villain is Fukken_Eh and hero is tuff_fish. You can see the hand you originally referred to at about 2:00. He does make mistakes, that's for sure (usually on the side of not protecting his moderately strong hands well), but in that particular hand, a check out of position on the turn was actually a very solid play.
@allankay12 So his options are check and see what villain does or bet, in which case villain would either fold (best case), raise (in which case tuff fish would have to consider folding), or call and possibly bet the river, in which case TF would have a difficult decision. There's no point to bet out on a hand out of position when the only thing that can reasonably call you is going to be a better hand.
@stinky472 Thank you for interpreting that for me. I'm a beginner player and I notice mistakes with tuff. Your analysis about tuff not protecting his hands is dead on and since your are correct on that I guess you are correct about his check. When I'm through playing tonight I will watch the clip over again, good luck at the tables
@allankay12 In other words, if the villain is leveling, he might not have a flush but he might represent one with two pair (semi-bluff, i.e.) or even air. It'd be very scary if he 3bets, so the only reason to bet out on the turn there would be to protect the hand against a draw. It's a pretty small pot to protect and against a tricky opponent, he might very well put us all-in on the river, especially if another diamond comes. Against good players, I I'd check given the small pot and our position
@allankay12 That's a more aggressive strategy and not a bad one either if you can consider laying your A-high straight down if the opponent plays back at you. The real problem there was tuff_fish being out of position and that board which completes so many draws. Chances are that he'd win a small pot (in which check/calling is not a bad idea and he can get more info from villain that way) or lose a big one. If he had position, it would have been easier to play that more aggressively.
I havnt seen tuff_fish's videos is years and seeing this brought back so many memories, this guy makes me laugh so fucking hard. My roommate probably thinks im fucking nuts omg. Tuff you are hilarious, you must be some retired millionaire guy. You don't have the best equity on your decisions but holy shit u r funny.
@allankay12 true and I don't think that's a wrong play, but the ace-high straight isn't a very strong hand on that board. We're out of position and villain could be drawing dead: the villain's check on the flop could mean any number of things and the pot is so small (mainly because tuff didn't cbet the flop). The whole raise pre-flop was just a steal attempt that failed, so tuff lost interest after that. He still should have cbet the flop though.
@allankay12 Actually I think his biggest mistake was not c-betting the flop. He kind of gave up after he got a caller. I think that might actually be one of the reasons why he can manage to be a winning player though in spite of his sometimes fishy plays given his lack of ability to narrow down a villain's range (lack of hand reading skills, i.e.). He can give up and lose a small pot. My biggest leak is not recognizing when I need to give up in a hand: trying to two-barrel a calling station, e.g
@allankay12 Only the flush beats us but the problem is this: what kind of hand would call on that board? The only weaker hand that could call (unless we're against a calling station) that we'd beat would be two pair, and someone with two pair is unlikely to simply flat call in that spot (they would likely at least raise or fold). If they raise we face a tough decision. The hand is strong in the way you suggest, but on that board it's a very face up hand-something that generally wins small pots..
@allankay12 In spite of his mistakes though, he's a winning player overall: (search for tuff_fish on fulltilt for his profile). He's not a pro (poker is not his main line of work, he just plays during his spare time). He has some wild swings but he has managed to profit overall and to be able to do that over a long period at 10/20 despite tougher games these days is not bad. We also tend to see the worst of him, not his best, and he tends to realize his own mistakes after a hand.
@allankay12 Yeah, I think tuff's intention there was just to pick up the blinds, but he got a caller and just sort of gave up. Kind of a weak play and he seems to be a bit of a nit but it's unlikely that he would win a big pot with that board especially since there was no action on the flop. In a normal heads up situation with more aggression I think it's not a bad idea to bet the turn even if you don't have an ace.
@stinky472 I decided to catch the clip in between hands. My reason not to check that turn is why give the "villain" a chance to make a 4 card flush? and you always have the option of folding if the villain re-raises. That was my thinking on why i would not check my nut str8 there. What do you think?
@stinky472 With the pot being so small checking turn is perfectly fine to do. But if diamond hits river and he leads out you have to throw your hand away. Betting the turn may just win you the pot right there. But since the pot was small checking is fine. But usually the aggressive play wins,correct?
I've never seen tuff fish make a single play that's a nl2000 quality play. Everything he does is nl25 level. He talks shit in the chat when he wins, doesn't know what he's talking about while analyzing a hand, and leaves the table before the blinds get around to him. He's not a complete fish, but pretty fucking close.
@allankay12 No, his check on the turn was a very reasonable play. TsJdKdQd facing a 4x BB caller PF and out of position. What kind of hand range would call that bet? KQ at best, and only from a donk, and even a donk playing KQ there would have to raise or fold, it's unlikely he'll call. Someone with FD would also most likely raise or fold there, and someone with a flush would very likely raise in that spot.
@stinky472 Why do you consider the A-high str8 "isn't a very strong hand on that board"? There is only a flush that beats you. I understand the opponent could have 2d3d thru AdJd but still having the nut str8 on a board with 3 diamonds is more then 66% chance you hold best hand. Is my math correct I'm not sure if I calcualted it correctly.
@allankay12 or loses big ones. To win big pots at such limits generally requires a fairly disguised hand.Then again I play at 25NL so I would probably bet out there and hope that a calling station with two pair or just a ragged king would call me, but that's only because there are so many bad players at the micro limits I play. I think checking and evaluating on the river is not a bad idea.
@travz21 u have to remember this was a few years ago. he won a bunch of money playing ABC poker. look him up on full tilt. he play 100-200, 200-400 hu. he's prettygood.
@stinky472 I'm betting there because I'm trying to protect my straight. Not necessarily to get called. You have said,many times, that checking is correct play. How would you feel if you check and river is diamond and four diamonds are on the board? Now your opponent with one diamond has made flush. Maybe he had top pair with one diamond or two pair with one diamond both hands you might get the guy to lay down with a bet on the turn. I would be fine with betting turn and winning pot right there
Imo that nut straight you should have bet on the turn. There were 3 diamonds on the table and you let him get a free card ? that's just asking for trouble
@stinky472 I just would of hate to see a diamond hit the river and the guy have 2-pair with a diamond and make his flush. And what if he value bets? Your probably going to lose more money. Who knows, me personnely would bet that turn. It might be the wrong play but I just want more info and don't want a diamond to river
@stinky472 I'm not sure we are talking about the same hand. I re-watched this whole video and did not see anyone called villain or the hand you were explaining. And I made the comment like over a month ago, I don't remember. All I know is this, watch a bunch of tuff's video's and you will see many mistakes. I watched him one time make call a bet with all overs then make his set on turn and check it all the way down. why call the flop bet and make ur hand only to check it down. I dont no
yeah brill to watch a bit annoying sometimes seems a weak guy in general the voice thing also needs to hit to win and hit big no surprise he seems to lose not that i want him too but if you see this guy 1 reason i think you lose is because you raise with big hands are to small your give people in there blinds the price to call i only learnt this myself recently too and pays off for me also the ace king hearts hand the bet on the river i so bad i mean yes looking at his hand in the end he was luc
@stinky472 Some one told me that there are 2 tuff fish players,I dont know. I think it's all a big joke. I watched tuff play on FT at a 200/400 nl vs Urindanger and he had like $40K at the table. He was playing much different then his tuff fish vid's. Who knows maybe he has the last laugh at all of us
Is this guy for real? I am starting to believe he must be staked and plays to lose just for entertainment. He makes a flush on turn and keeps saying "he has no set, he has no set" LOL. who cares if he has a set you only going to make more money if board doesnt pair on river. The constant mis-reading of his hands are getting hard for me to believe this isn't just a joke
I love revisiting old Tuff Fish vids! Miss the hell out of this guy. Magic612 was also fantastic.
Was also great to see Tuffy actually have a great session for once
Not as funny as when he loses, but sooooo enjoyable to see Tuff win some God dang hands for once - I feel like I won too!!!!!!
This guy could have made millions as a youtube sensation
Omg he had a winning session!! Also he went from like $500 to like $4,000 in minutes pretty impressive how quick you can win.
I love how he chirps in chat too
It’s amazing that once upon a time guys like this played 10/20
lol, "people say i blow people out of pots"...*pots it on the flop* "i want nooo mooore caaards!". Love tuff_fish though.
"It's kind of a coin flip" It probably isn't. Tuff is agressive pre flop, with a lot of hands, and it's common for players, with marginal hands to re-raise because they'll get frustrated at the constant raised preflops.
His game plan finally worked, but doesn't understand why. LOL! It's why I love Tuff Fish so much. He's so dam entertaining.
"Oh CRIMINY!" I do understand Jackal's call on the river, but have no clue why he'd call a raise with 10/7 out of position.
@allankay12 Villain is the general term used to describe the opponent (hero for yourself). when discussing poker hands In this case villain is Fukken_Eh and hero is tuff_fish. You can see the hand you originally referred to at about 2:00. He does make mistakes, that's for sure (usually on the side of not protecting his moderately strong hands well), but in that particular hand, a check out of position on the turn was actually a very solid play.
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@allankay12 So his options are check and see what villain does or bet, in which case villain would either fold (best case), raise (in which case tuff fish would have to consider folding), or call and possibly bet the river, in which case TF would have a difficult decision. There's no point to bet out on a hand out of position when the only thing that can reasonably call you is going to be a better hand.
you laugh is magic! makes al the bad beats go away
yea i noticed that LOL
"you can leave now princess"
trash talking tuff fish
@stinky472 Thank you for interpreting that for me. I'm a beginner player and I notice mistakes with tuff. Your analysis about tuff not protecting his hands is dead on and since your are correct on that I guess you are correct about his check. When I'm through playing tonight I will watch the clip over again, good luck at the tables
his pissed off laugh is classic
i have much more respect for his play after watching all these sessions
i kinda feel a bit happy for old tuff for winnin' back some of his cash after all that poor luck
He actually plays quite well at some situations.
This is the first time I've ever seen him play at least decently.
@allankay12 In other words, if the villain is leveling, he might not have a flush but he might represent one with two pair (semi-bluff, i.e.) or even air. It'd be very scary if he 3bets, so the only reason to bet out on the turn there would be to protect the hand against a draw. It's a pretty small pot to protect and against a tricky opponent, he might very well put us all-in on the river, especially if another diamond comes. Against good players, I I'd check given the small pot and our position
agree with you trueblue, you can't just call a 4 bet to hit an A or a K, thats the kind of play that loses money in the long run.
Ohhhh my...My my my my my!
@allankay12 That's a more aggressive strategy and not a bad one either if you can consider laying your A-high straight down if the opponent plays back at you. The real problem there was tuff_fish being out of position and that board which completes so many draws. Chances are that he'd win a small pot (in which check/calling is not a bad idea and he can get more info from villain that way) or lose a big one. If he had position, it would have been easier to play that more aggressively.
I havnt seen tuff_fish's videos is years and seeing this brought back so many memories, this guy makes me laugh so fucking hard. My roommate probably thinks im fucking nuts omg. Tuff you are hilarious, you must be some retired millionaire guy. You don't have the best equity on your decisions but holy shit u r funny.
No way Tuffy is rich from the way he plays when he loses. Prob just ran ape on a bunch of credit cards.
i respect the tuff
@allankay12 true and I don't think that's a wrong play, but the ace-high straight isn't a very strong hand on that board. We're out of position and villain could be drawing dead: the villain's check on the flop could mean any number of things and the pot is so small (mainly because tuff didn't cbet the flop). The whole raise pre-flop was just a steal attempt that failed, so tuff lost interest after that. He still should have cbet the flop though.
@allankay12 Actually I think his biggest mistake was not c-betting the flop. He kind of gave up after he got a caller. I think that might actually be one of the reasons why he can manage to be a winning player though in spite of his sometimes fishy plays given his lack of ability to narrow down a villain's range (lack of hand reading skills, i.e.). He can give up and lose a small pot. My biggest leak is not recognizing when I need to give up in a hand: trying to two-barrel a calling station, e.g
i love his laughs and his voice :D
@allankay12 Only the flush beats us but the problem is this: what kind of hand would call on that board? The only weaker hand that could call (unless we're against a calling station) that we'd beat would be two pair, and someone with two pair is unlikely to simply flat call in that spot (they would likely at least raise or fold). If they raise we face a tough decision. The hand is strong in the way you suggest, but on that board it's a very face up hand-something that generally wins small pots..
@allankay12 In spite of his mistakes though, he's a winning player overall: (search for tuff_fish on fulltilt for his profile). He's not a pro (poker is not his main line of work, he just plays during his spare time). He has some wild swings but he has managed to profit overall and to be able to do that over a long period at 10/20 despite tougher games these days is not bad. We also tend to see the worst of him, not his best, and he tends to realize his own mistakes after a hand.
@allankay12 Yeah, I think tuff's intention there was just to pick up the blinds, but he got a caller and just sort of gave up. Kind of a weak play and he seems to be a bit of a nit but it's unlikely that he would win a big pot with that board especially since there was no action on the flop. In a normal heads up situation with more aggression I think it's not a bad idea to bet the turn even if you don't have an ace.
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Perfect flop for AA (K55) so he bets it and they fold "godoggit!" hahahahahahaha
@stinky472 I decided to catch the clip in between hands. My reason not to check that turn is why give the "villain" a chance to make a 4 card flush? and you always have the option of folding if the villain re-raises. That was my thinking on why i would not check my nut str8 there. What do you think?
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nice, tuff made some profit
@stinky472 With the pot being so small checking turn is perfectly fine to do. But if diamond hits river and he leads out you have to throw your hand away. Betting the turn may just win you the pot right there. But since the pot was small checking is fine. But usually the aggressive play wins,correct?
I've never seen tuff fish make a single play that's a nl2000 quality play. Everything he does is nl25 level. He talks shit in the chat when he wins, doesn't know what he's talking about while analyzing a hand, and leaves the table before the blinds get around to him. He's not a complete fish, but pretty fucking close.
@allankay12 No, his check on the turn was a very reasonable play. TsJdKdQd facing a 4x BB caller PF and out of position. What kind of hand range would call that bet? KQ at best, and only from a donk, and even a donk playing KQ there would have to raise or fold, it's unlikely he'll call. Someone with FD would also most likely raise or fold there, and someone with a flush would very likely raise in that spot.
Yes he did, but he was afraid of the flush
@stinky472 Why do you consider the A-high str8 "isn't a very strong hand on that board"? There is only a flush that beats you. I understand the opponent could have 2d3d thru AdJd but still having the nut str8 on a board with 3 diamonds is more then 66% chance you hold best hand. Is my math correct I'm not sure if I calcualted it correctly.
he didn't even realise he had a straight lol
@allankay12 or loses big ones. To win big pots at such limits generally requires a fairly disguised hand.Then again I play at 25NL so I would probably bet out there and hope that a calling station with two pair or just a ragged king would call me, but that's only because there are so many bad players at the micro limits I play. I think checking and evaluating on the river is not a bad idea.
@travz21 u have to remember this was a few years ago. he won a bunch of money playing ABC poker. look him up on full tilt. he play 100-200, 200-400 hu. he's prettygood.
love tuff
His bet sizing is awful
+Yordan Yordanov right... the rest of his game is pretty damn solid tho!
CLEANING HOUSE
Oh crimedy!!!!
SLIME FTW
@6.50 i have no idea why he bet 200 on the river with a free check with AK high . He was only going to get called with a better hand
@stinky472 I'm betting there because I'm trying to protect my straight. Not necessarily to get called. You have said,many times, that checking is correct play. How would you feel if you check and river is diamond and four diamonds are on the board? Now your opponent with one diamond has made flush. Maybe he had top pair with one diamond or two pair with one diamond both hands you might get the guy to lay down with a bet on the turn. I would be fine with betting turn and winning pot right there
@dashizzler since when does he play that high?
legend!
GOD DOG IT
this is the only video i've ever seen him play w/ marginal play (as opposed to realllllly bad) the Aj guy kinda blew chunks too imo
Imo that nut straight you should have bet on the turn. There were 3 diamonds on the table and you let him get a free card ? that's just asking for trouble
I would take all of this man's money. What poker site is he using now?
I feel like I'm getting worser from watching these videos damn
@travz21 You say not a complete fish?? I would love to know what you think a "complete fish" is. This guy is a HUGE fish with money to burn.
@stinky472 wtf are you talking about hes stuck over 300kbucks on fullttilt poker alone lol
@travz21 he's a winning player overall.
lol phil ivey watch out!
great bet sizing babe.....lol
@stinky472 I just would of hate to see a diamond hit the river and the guy have 2-pair with a diamond and make his flush. And what if he value bets? Your probably going to lose more money. Who knows, me personnely would bet that turn. It might be the wrong play but I just want more info and don't want a diamond to river
i dont understand wut boraxxxx is doing, does he actually make money by moving in all the time in coin flip situations?
@andosalado LIPS WITH AA ARE YOU JOKING...
With AK your hoping he thinks you have a pair and he doesn't? Then why don't you just check back with sd value?
@stinky472 I'm not sure we are talking about the same hand. I re-watched this whole video and did not see anyone called villain or the hand you were explaining. And I made the comment like over a month ago, I don't remember. All I know is this, watch a bunch of tuff's video's and you will see many mistakes. I watched him one time make call a bet with all overs then make his set on turn and check it all the way down. why call the flop bet and make ur hand only to check it down. I dont no
yeah brill to watch a bit annoying sometimes seems a weak guy in general the voice thing also needs to hit to win and hit big no surprise he seems to lose not that i want him too but if you see this guy 1 reason i think you lose is because you raise with big hands are to small your give people in there blinds the price to call i only learnt this myself recently too and pays off for me also the ace king hearts hand the bet on the river i so bad i mean yes looking at his hand in the end he was luc
GOD DONG IT! lol
@stinky472 Some one told me that there are 2 tuff fish players,I dont know. I think it's all a big joke. I watched tuff play on FT at a 200/400 nl vs Urindanger and he had like $40K at the table. He was playing much different then his tuff fish vid's. Who knows maybe he has the last laugh at all of us
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Wow that old PokerTracker was horrible lmao
is this guy's commentary for show or for real?
7:09 lmaoooooooooooo
Theres hundreds of these idiots online at higher stakes every day.. Thats y igotta climb to higher stakes ASAP
so many size tells...
My guess is show and to get all that views :)
Is this guy for real? I am starting to believe he must be staked and plays to lose just for entertainment. He makes a flush on turn and keeps saying "he has no set, he has no set" LOL. who cares if he has a set you only going to make more money if board doesnt pair on river. The constant mis-reading of his hands are getting hard for me to believe this isn't just a joke
LOL
i hope he dont have a pair :D
AJ ??????LOL
aj reraiser, donkeyLOL
He is entertaining and awful. What's sad is that he probably lost his life savings playing online poker for a year