As a high handicap the 7 wood was the best club choice I ever made. I use it the most. It's easy to hit and can be used in almost any situation. You have to give it try if you have not already.
I like how all these launch monitors get 30 or 40 yards of run out. None of the courses I play ever get run out like that and in fact most of the time you're lucky to get a yard
As someone who carried only a driver and 3 wood for 30 years, I learned that adding a 5 and 7 wood has made longer shots easier and golf more fun. The 3 and 4 iron are now in the retired club bag.
I joined the 7wood club a few years ago, my 3,4 iron are like yours retired, I take them to the range occasionally just to keep my swing with them. But when I play its definitely 7 and 5 wood. Last Sunday I was inches from an eagle putt, thanks to my 7w giving me a great second shot. I happily settled for birdie on a 520 yard par 5.
I have 3W and now 7W, but on fitting for the 7W hit a few 5W and I can see this replacing the 3W with a custom fitting. It went just as far but slightly easier to hit. Plus the Titleist model could have lie adjusted as well as loft.
So I am a high handicap and always looking to make the game easier for me. My irons are 6-PW. My woods are 3-5-7. I do also carry a 5h since I don’t have a 5 iron. Does this setup sound about right for a 61 year old 20 handicap?
The smaller head "PRO" hybrid Trottie is using is designed for a downward blow (like an iron). I have them but, being more of a "picker" i find them useless. I CAN sweep the LARGER HEADED HYBRID and FAIRWAY WOODS equally well (I actually LENGTHEN them to accommodate a larger grip without losing swingweight). It really comes down to how YOU contact the ball.
I went from a 2H and 3 iron to a 7 wood and extra wedge last year and was the best thing I've done for my bag in a long time. I'm a 0.5 and didn't have too much issue with the 3iron. But just can't compare to the booters that the 7 wood can produce out of damn near anywhere. Goes high, but not too high. Hell of a tool.
I'm a scratch golfer and I mostly dislike my hybrids. I play a 2h and a 4h because it suits my gapping with my longest iron being a 5. I find as a player who predominantly draws the ball the hybrids tend to accentuate that draw and I find myself fighting it or having to play a pretty sweepy ball flight which i despise. I've actually been considering going to a 4 iron and maybe another fairway wood so this is really helpful.
@@jonathanberry9543 possibly so. I tend to hit my 7 wood high and it tends to just bite and stick. 5 wood gets a bit more roll out for me - I realize the loft isn't that much different but maybe it's just how I swing them. 7 wood is like a bang on 200-205 club for me (with a smooth swing) and 5 wood gets me like 220-225, or more if I lay into one, so gapping is not terrible. I haven't ventured into 9 wood territory. I carry one less wedge to accommodate the 5-7 combo - I realized I don't need a million wedges in the bag.
I played a 7 wood 3 wood last year and switched to 21 degree hybrid and 18 degree 5 wood this year. I like the lower trajectory of the hybrid and I hit it further on miss hits than a 7 wood. The 7 wood off the T is a dud for me compared to a 5 wood honesty. Great comparison , your knowledge is much appreciated, I have gone to KBS graphite in hybrid and love it !
7 wood just too spinny off the peg for ya? How about if you tried to flight it down? Just too hard to control? I like where you're at, you sound sorted
@@trottiegolf I guess it is kinda spinny of the tee , nice on long 3 pars but I just don’t play that many. I definitely am inconsistent with that 7 wood flighting it down, it is an early PXG that was set up draw bias and I have a draw after some swing changes. The hybrid is a titleist set to B1 ,
@@IronDrummer91 ball further back and cover the ball. Not an issue skillset to learn. Shorter shaft in the wood is a good start point BUT keep on top of the swing weight
@@trottiegolf Thanks - I'll need this shot with my 3 and 5 wood as windy season is picking up in the UK. I do have a 4 hybrid and a 7 wood on rotation, be excited to get this to work on 7 wood too.
7w + 25 hybrid for me as a slower swinger brings in GIRs that I wasn't making with a 4hybrid and 5i (they didn't 'launch' enough and cut too much on worse swings)
Been gaming a 3 Hybrid as the rough near me is thicker at times and the smaller sole allows me to chop down on it more. Also the lower apex is good not to be smashed by the wind in valleys/hilltops. Also it's been less powerful than by 5 wood keeping a nice 5i-3h-5w gap. Just need a 3w now to sort of complete the top end of the bay
That’s exactly what I do 👍… Do yourself a favor and look at a mini driver as a 3 wood. I did and now I’ll never go back… May not be for you but worth a try
Appreciate its not for everyone, but it’s a hybrid all day long for me. With the right setup, it gives you the chance to hit a shot like a 3 iron or the 7 wood.
I have never gotten along with hybrids. I have loved using 7 woods last 4 years or so. Game changer for long par 4s, 5s and the occasional long par 3. I do, however, I play mine almost 1 inch short of the new standard
I have used both 7 wood and hybrid. I really want to love a 7 wood but my numbers and flight are better with a hybrid. Now I use a 19*. QI10 hybrid and waiting for my 25*
Another great installment. I'm definitely going the 7 wood next purchase to gap fill 4I to 3W. I just can't put a hybrid down and think anything good is going to happen as they just have "bad shot coming" written all over them. I just look down and ask "so what are you supposed to be?"
Love my 7 wood, really easy to hit for a 200 yard shot. Super versatile, can be hit out of rough too. Can’t seem to hit it off the tee, just spins too much. Would you recommend carrying an 18 degree hybrid that would produce a lower ball flight off the tee? Would be useful for shots into wind
I went from someone who played EXTREMELY conservative on par 5 approach. If I couldn’t get there with 5i I laid up. I hated hybrids. Couldn’t stop a driving iron on a green. Now after putting 7 wood in the bag I probably hit as many greens from 230 as I do with a 7iron.
i like the descent angle of a 7 wood. A 4H can run out between 20-40 yds, potentially leading into hazards or bad lies. A 7W sticks the landing where I want it to go.
I have 3-5 hybrids but sometimes use 5wood in place of 3H when and 5i in place of 5 hybrids depending on wind or tightness of fairways. Btw, I just found out Freddy couples longest iron is a 6i. From there he has hybrids and wood. For us no pro, I think we should all consider copying his bad.
I just got a 7 wood and hit it for the first time yesterday. Night and day for me over a hybrid....and I like hybrids. I don't know why, but it was amazingly easy to hit. After roughly 30 shots, all....I repeat, all were within a 10-15 yard diameter. Why? I'm not sure. I can't explain it. High and long 215-220 out.
There were a lot of sales pitches in the early days of hybrids but the most common one was to use them as an iron replacement. But the truth was only Mizuno with their Fli-Hi and Tour Edge with their Iron woods actually made true iron replacements hybrids. Everyone else chased distance as their customers wanted that. So in almost every other brand you got a club that was easier to get in the air for most golfers compared to their long irons but a good club or three longer. That equals sales which is what matters to a manufacturer. Hybrids kept getting longer both in terms of distance and, unfortunately, shaft length until are about as difficult to hit consistently as a 5 or 7 wood so why not go with something (7 wood) that gets in the air even easier, stops more quickly and is more forgiving on low-in-the-face strikes? Pros and other high swing speed players started switching to higher lofted woods because the extra loft gave them the distance control they needed while still delivering a full swing and stopping on a dime compared to hybrids that kept going too far and not stopping quickly enough.
For sticking greens with a HYB or 7 wood what is your target decent angle and spin? I am swinging about 100 mph club speed, 3,300 spin and 38.5 land angle with my 3 HYB. Should i look into a 7 wood?
How much do I have to pay to do a full all out fitting with Trottie? I’m legit a HUGE Taylormade fan and an even bigger Trottie fan! On my bucket list up at #1 is to get a full fitting with Trottie at The Kingdom! For reference I’m a 3 handicap and have never been fully fit for clubs in my life, I think it could take my game to scratch.
I've been considering getting a 7 wood and I've hit a few and really like them, my fitter recommended 1/2 inch bigger due to height (6,2) & wrist to floor at 38. I haven't gone through with the purchase just yet as I'm seeing a lot of people mentioning a shorter length is advantageous. Would you recommend me going shorter, if so Trottie, what would you recommend? I'm not seeing a fitter now due to travelling but I'd like to try pick one up.
I liked that 41.50" , you're taller than me so go for what TM offer as standard which I believe is 41.75" (don't quote me). I would not go longer than 42" EOG
So I’m currently running a 5 wood 17.5°, and a 4 hybrid with 22° loft? Is running a 7 wood at 21° redundant? Would you replace the 4 hybrid for a 7 wood? I’m a novice golfer 1st year playing and a handicap 19.6. I’m trying to find a good 200-225 yard club that I can hit from pretty much anywhere and have less dispersion. Anyone have a recommendation? I run the hybrid though not a ton of confidence, but when I hit it pure it’s awesome, I can also get punchy with it with a 3/4 swing keep it low and kind of bail myself out of trouble with it. Kind of feeling maybe the more loft of a 7 wood would make this a better option for longer par 3’s etc. and perhaps less difficult of a club?
7 wood gonna be a bit easier to hit than the hybrid as a result of the spin and larger head. This all depends how good you are with your 3 wood but you could get one club to do 2 jobs with the 7 wood and then add a wedge. All things to consider as I definitely like learning to chip properly with your 56* before going for the 60*
In what case would you want the 30 yards of runout on anything other than a max distance shot off the tee? Seems like a no brainer for me just from that. But I'm also relatively new so maybe there's cases I'm not thinking of.
Links courses. Shots Off the tee you want run out Then flip it to: Hard fairway conditions Firm greens you want the ball to stop Small / Shallow Greens you don't want run out Shots where you need a higher apex Altitude - more height, more yardage So it's course dependent
Now compare them out the rough? That’s where the hybrid takes over, loses points in forgiveness and height but gains points in versatility. I don’t really see the 7 wood as a legit 3 iron replacement like a hybrid can be since it’s extremely difficult to hit out the rough.
Curious if you shortened the shaft and if so how much? Also what weight shaft did you end up in? I have the QI10 max 7w cause I prefer the shallower head of the max, but like an idiot I bought it off the rack and I hate the shaft. Not a big deal cause I have shafts I can install, but I’ve been debating on cutting the length down a 1/2”. Seems like a common thing with all my woods. Wether it’s driver, 3w , whatever… I always feel best at - 1/2”
Jack Nicklaus used a 431/4” shaft in his driver. If it was good enough for him it’s good enough for me so I cut mine down to 43”. I didn’t notice any loss of distance. I’m not afraid to cut my shafts down if it results in more consistent contact…which it does. There’s only one way to find out. Go for it.
I currently have a gap In my bag, I hit my driving iron 22.5° 210 rolls to 225 and then straight to 3 wood which is 245 carry to 260ish depending on tee vs deck, I’m wanting a club that carries 220-230 and stops quite quick as it’s the perfect club into both par 5’s at my course, so would you say a 7 wood over a 19° hybrid?
That's the whole reason for the vid. You gotta look at your data and numbers and make that call. Either can work based on player preference and profile. Keep in mind at some point there will be a slight gap dependent on the amount of wedges you carry. 7 wood well worth a look though and test it alongside the hybrid. Dive into this vid too (if you haven't already) th-cam.com/video/yeJopwH_T6w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=b7ac6naKnVBrYfjx Spurs icon would indicate you live in UK so watch that peak height as weather can result in a lower ball flight being more desirable..... that points to rescue BUT hard summer conditions points to 7 wood. As I always say: "your set needs to be viewed as a squad of players, you don't run them all out each week but certain games (courses) require certain players)
@@trottiegolf yeah UK mate, I only have 13 clubs in the bag at the minute so the gap is easily filled, will have to book a gapping session at the range and hit both, but as you know with England, I might as well gear up for worse weather rather than the 2 weeks of summer 😂. Class act as always Trottie, appreciate the reply mate. Love the content brother.
Players distance cavity irons works just as good as hybrids for me. Irons give me better dispersion than my hybrids. Hybrids give me slightly better height which is easier to hit
This is similar to what I have experienced. I get a better more consistent dispersion with a game improvement iron, like a Callaway X20 for instance. Distance is about 10 years less than the same lofted hybrid, but more consistent and a better dispersion with the irons. I am gaming a 7 wood and playing with the hybrids to fill he gap. My irons now start at a 6 iron.
@trottiegolf I'd love to see that! I play Srixon irons, but the equivalent of a 770 P-6i, 790 5i, and QI10 in the 4 iron as a utility iron/driving iron. Very interested in your thoughts on that.
Love my 7 wood so much. My Dad passed his on to me because he couldn't gel with it. Has become my favourite club, so versatile. It's a 22 degree, but I've lofted it down a little. I also play an 18 degree 3 Hybrid, and like having that in the tool kit for those thicker lies.
I don't think I could get rid of my hybrid. It's my most dependable club and most versatile. I use it when I need a stinger in the trees to keep the ball down and below the trees. I can't do that with a 7 wood.
PDHY was too big on the looks and didn't fly as high as the rescue I had. PUDI I liked but too close to my 3 iron so I opted for the P770 3i over that. Both PUDI and PDHY are good clubs but we're into personal preferences at the point where I opted out.
So many Tour players still carry 3-iron or even 2-iron so I would not call those obsolete. There are players, that probably never will choose a hybrid.
I haven’t played enough in the last few years to justify new clubs but if I was getting g back to more frequent play this is probably the set up I’d be gaming.
Just me but a hybrid is better from the rough. That being said just get a high launching 5 wood like my Taylormade Sim2. You can open it up or choke down on it if you want and it stops on a green like an iron. Now you have a 5 wood and a 3 hybrid (have a 4h also). Problem solved 😎
Thumbs down to TaylorMade shaft offerings. Can’t get a 90g shaft in any “wood”… which anyone north of 110SS is likely going to require in a 7wd. TM appears to be bottlenecking stronger players to ultra premium shaft up charges, from 3rd party distributors.
Why would you not just use a 3 iron? You can get plenty of height on it if you have above 90 mph swingspeed with your driver and the consistency of a 3 iron is unmatched. Anything above a 5 woods or hybrids are not made for players who have above 90mph swingspeed
Pretty sure it’s like 25% of PGA players have a 7 wood now. Theegala plays a 9 wood. Not sure why you think the 90 mph is the deciding factor. Players know how to hit different shots.
@@callumwells agreed I think all options should be considered for every player I just disagree with the premise that above average swing speed should always = iron. So many more factors go into consideration.
That's nowhere near enough speed. 100mph with a 3 iron and then it's a possibility. The greens on tour are so fast, you need land angle. Plus, the fairway wood is so much more forgiving.
As a high handicap the 7 wood was the best club choice I ever made. I use it the most. It's easy to hit and can be used in almost any situation. You have to give it try if you have not already.
I like how all these launch monitors get 30 or 40 yards of run out. None of the courses I play ever get run out like that and in fact most of the time you're lucky to get a yard
You need to play in Nebraska during August then, ;)
As someone who carried only a driver and 3 wood for 30 years, I learned that adding a 5 and 7 wood has made longer shots easier and golf more fun. The 3 and 4 iron are now in the retired club bag.
I joined the 7wood club a few years ago, my 3,4 iron are like yours retired, I take them to the range occasionally just to keep my swing with them. But when I play its definitely 7 and 5 wood. Last Sunday I was inches from an eagle putt, thanks to my 7w giving me a great second shot. I happily settled for birdie on a 520 yard par 5.
I have 3W and now 7W, but on fitting for the 7W hit a few 5W and I can see this replacing the 3W with a custom fitting. It went just as far but slightly easier to hit. Plus the Titleist model could have lie adjusted as well as loft.
My 2iron is long gone, tried driving iron but need more height, now it’s driver, mini driver, 5w, 7w, 6h, 7 iron, how golf has changed
So I am a high handicap and always looking to make the game easier for me. My irons are 6-PW. My woods are 3-5-7. I do also carry a 5h since I don’t have a 5 iron. Does this setup sound about right for a 61 year old 20 handicap?
The smaller head "PRO" hybrid Trottie is using is designed for a downward blow (like an iron). I have them but, being more of a "picker" i find them useless. I CAN sweep the LARGER HEADED HYBRID and FAIRWAY WOODS equally well (I actually LENGTHEN them to accommodate a larger grip without losing swingweight). It really comes down to how YOU contact the ball.
don't hate that take
Just dropped my hybrid for a 7 wood and it’s an absolute winner for me🙌🏻
I went from a 2H and 3 iron to a 7 wood and extra wedge last year and was the best thing I've done for my bag in a long time. I'm a 0.5 and didn't have too much issue with the 3iron. But just can't compare to the booters that the 7 wood can produce out of damn near anywhere. Goes high, but not too high. Hell of a tool.
Yeah agree… 7 wood you can hit out of a divot or tight lie… so versatile with many options
I didn’t know you were a golfer 👍🏻
I'm a scratch golfer and I mostly dislike my hybrids. I play a 2h and a 4h because it suits my gapping with my longest iron being a 5. I find as a player who predominantly draws the ball the hybrids tend to accentuate that draw and I find myself fighting it or having to play a pretty sweepy ball flight which i despise. I've actually been considering going to a 4 iron and maybe another fairway wood so this is really helpful.
7 wood has absolutely been a game changer for me. I went and got myself a 5 wood too. My 2 favorite clubs. I couldn't recommend higher.
How do you find playing a 5 wood and 7 wood? Did you think of maybe a 9 wood to increase the gap instead of 7?
@@jonathanberry9543 possibly so. I tend to hit my 7 wood high and it tends to just bite and stick. 5 wood gets a bit more roll out for me - I realize the loft isn't that much different but maybe it's just how I swing them. 7 wood is like a bang on 200-205 club for me (with a smooth swing) and 5 wood gets me like 220-225, or more if I lay into one, so gapping is not terrible. I haven't ventured into 9 wood territory. I carry one less wedge to accommodate the 5-7 combo - I realized I don't need a million wedges in the bag.
I played a 7 wood 3 wood last year and switched to 21 degree hybrid and 18 degree 5 wood this year. I like the lower trajectory of the hybrid and I hit it further on miss hits than a 7 wood. The 7 wood off the T is a dud for me compared to a 5 wood honesty. Great comparison , your knowledge is much appreciated, I have gone to KBS graphite in hybrid and love it !
7 wood just too spinny off the peg for ya? How about if you tried to flight it down? Just too hard to control? I like where you're at, you sound sorted
@@trottiegolf I guess it is kinda spinny of the tee , nice on long 3 pars but I just don’t play that many. I definitely am inconsistent with that 7 wood flighting it down, it is an early PXG that was set up draw bias and I have a draw after some swing changes. The hybrid is a titleist set to B1 ,
@@trottiegolfHi Trottie - what’s the best way to flight down high lofted woods?
@@IronDrummer91 ball further back and cover the ball. Not an issue skillset to learn. Shorter shaft in the wood is a good start point BUT keep on top of the swing weight
@@trottiegolf Thanks - I'll need this shot with my 3 and 5 wood as windy season is picking up in the UK. I do have a 4 hybrid and a 7 wood on rotation, be excited to get this to work on 7 wood too.
7w + 25 hybrid for me as a slower swinger brings in GIRs that I wasn't making with a 4hybrid and 5i (they didn't 'launch' enough and cut too much on worse swings)
Qi10 Max 7FW is a weapon!! Espcially the Max model, it's so much better then a hybrid! 🔥
Been gaming a 3 Hybrid as the rough near me is thicker at times and the smaller sole allows me to chop down on it more. Also the lower apex is good not to be smashed by the wind in valleys/hilltops. Also it's been less powerful than by 5 wood keeping a nice 5i-3h-5w gap. Just need a 3w now to sort of complete the top end of the bay
That’s exactly what I do 👍… Do yourself a favor and look at a mini driver as a 3 wood. I did and now I’ll never go back… May not be for you but worth a try
Appreciate its not for everyone, but it’s a hybrid all day long for me. With the right setup, it gives you the chance to hit a shot like a 3 iron or the 7 wood.
I have never gotten along with hybrids. I have loved using 7 woods last 4 years or so. Game changer for long par 4s, 5s and the occasional long par 3. I do, however, I play mine almost 1 inch short of the new standard
I have used both 7 wood and hybrid. I really want to love a 7 wood but my numbers and flight are better with a hybrid. Now I use a 19*. QI10 hybrid and waiting for my 25*
7 wood all day long. I absolutely loved mine.
Another great installment. I'm definitely going the 7 wood next purchase to gap fill 4I to 3W. I just can't put a hybrid down and think anything good is going to happen as they just have "bad shot coming" written all over them. I just look down and ask "so what are you supposed to be?"
Literally reading my mind Trottie
Love my 7 wood, really easy to hit for a 200 yard shot. Super versatile, can be hit out of rough too. Can’t seem to hit it off the tee, just spins too much. Would you recommend carrying an 18 degree hybrid that would produce a lower ball flight off the tee? Would be useful for shots into wind
Look who has been raiding Jason Day’s wardrobe 😎
I went from someone who played EXTREMELY conservative on par 5 approach. If I couldn’t get there with 5i I laid up. I hated hybrids. Couldn’t stop a driving iron on a green. Now after putting 7 wood in the bag I probably hit as many greens from 230 as I do with a 7iron.
i like the descent angle of a 7 wood. A 4H can run out between 20-40 yds, potentially leading into hazards or bad lies. A 7W sticks the landing where I want it to go.
My 7 wood is my best club purchase in a very long time. My left miss with hybrids is not present with the 7 wood. 👍
I like the idea of a seven wood, with the right shaft, but I’ll take my 3 iron over a hybrid anyday!
yeah. Same here. Never going to have a hybrid in my bag.
Using a 4H for high shots into par 5s. Just a nice club
I have 3-5 hybrids but sometimes use 5wood in place of 3H when and 5i in place of 5 hybrids depending on wind or tightness of fairways. Btw, I just found out Freddy couples longest iron is a 6i. From there he has hybrids and wood. For us no pro, I think we should all consider copying his bad.
I just got a 7 wood and hit it for the first time yesterday. Night and day for me over a hybrid....and I like hybrids. I don't know why, but it was amazingly easy to hit. After roughly 30 shots, all....I repeat, all were within a 10-15 yard diameter. Why? I'm not sure. I can't explain it. High and long 215-220 out.
There were a lot of sales pitches in the early days of hybrids but the most common one was to use them as an iron replacement. But the truth was only Mizuno with their Fli-Hi and Tour Edge with their Iron woods actually made true iron replacements hybrids. Everyone else chased distance as their customers wanted that. So in almost every other brand you got a club that was easier to get in the air for most golfers compared to their long irons but a good club or three longer. That equals sales which is what matters to a manufacturer. Hybrids kept getting longer both in terms of distance and, unfortunately, shaft length until are about as difficult to hit consistently as a 5 or 7 wood so why not go with something (7 wood) that gets in the air even easier, stops more quickly and is more forgiving on low-in-the-face strikes? Pros and other high swing speed players started switching to higher lofted woods because the extra loft gave them the distance control they needed while still delivering a full swing and stopping on a dime compared to hybrids that kept going too far and not stopping quickly enough.
Hello Trottie , thank you for this very helpful comparison. How much length would you recommend to shorten the shaft of the 7 wood..? Thx. AL 😊
For sticking greens with a HYB or 7 wood what is your target decent angle and spin? I am swinging about 100 mph club speed, 3,300 spin and 38.5 land angle with my 3 HYB. Should i look into a 7 wood?
Since I play an all hybrid set. I prefer the consistency of using a 2 hybrid that would be comparable to a 4 wood
How much do I have to pay to do a full all out fitting with Trottie? I’m legit a HUGE Taylormade fan and an even bigger Trottie fan!
On my bucket list up at #1 is to get a full fitting with Trottie at The Kingdom!
For reference I’m a 3 handicap and have never been fully fit for clubs in my life, I think it could take my game to scratch.
Kingdom Invitational this weekend, you could have gotten fitted by me
@@trottiegolf ah man I missed it. Next opportunity I’m going to try to stay in the loop. Your the man Trottie, love your content 🤜🤛🔥⛳️
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I've been considering getting a 7 wood and I've hit a few and really like them, my fitter recommended 1/2 inch bigger due to height (6,2) & wrist to floor at 38. I haven't gone through with the purchase just yet as I'm seeing a lot of people mentioning a shorter length is advantageous. Would you recommend me going shorter, if so Trottie, what would you recommend? I'm not seeing a fitter now due to travelling but I'd like to try pick one up.
I liked that 41.50" , you're taller than me so go for what TM offer as standard which I believe is 41.75" (don't quote me). I would not go longer than 42" EOG
@@trottiegolf Legend, thanks Trottie! I will go for the 41.75 - keep up the good work 🙌
The Qi10 7 Wood is money!
So I’m currently running a 5 wood 17.5°, and a 4 hybrid with 22° loft? Is running a 7 wood at 21° redundant? Would you replace the 4 hybrid for a 7 wood? I’m a novice golfer 1st year playing and a handicap 19.6. I’m trying to find a good 200-225 yard club that I can hit from pretty much anywhere and have less dispersion. Anyone have a recommendation? I run the hybrid though not a ton of confidence, but when I hit it pure it’s awesome, I can also get punchy with it with a 3/4 swing keep it low and kind of bail myself out of trouble with it. Kind of feeling maybe the more loft of a 7 wood would make this a better option for longer par 3’s etc. and perhaps less difficult of a club?
7 wood gonna be a bit easier to hit than the hybrid as a result of the spin and larger head.
This all depends how good you are with your 3 wood but you could get one club to do 2 jobs with the 7 wood and then add a wedge.
All things to consider as I definitely like learning to chip properly with your 56* before going for the 60*
as someone who is 5’7”, I game this same 7 wood. So I should go get it cut down a quarter to half an inch?
What's the KBS shaft Trottie ?
Im currently 16.5 3 wood and 7 wood
In what case would you want the 30 yards of runout on anything other than a max distance shot off the tee? Seems like a no brainer for me just from that. But I'm also relatively new so maybe there's cases I'm not thinking of.
Links courses.
Shots Off the tee you want run out
Then flip it to:
Hard fairway conditions
Firm greens you want the ball to stop
Small / Shallow Greens you don't want run out
Shots where you need a higher apex
Altitude - more height, more yardage
So it's course dependent
I love my 21* UW
Now compare them out the rough? That’s where the hybrid takes over, loses points in forgiveness and height but gains points in versatility. I don’t really see the 7 wood as a legit 3 iron replacement like a hybrid can be since it’s extremely difficult to hit out the rough.
Good points well made. Love it
Curious if you shortened the shaft and if so how much? Also what weight shaft did you end up in? I have the QI10 max 7w cause I prefer the shallower head of the max, but like an idiot I bought it off the rack and I hate the shaft. Not a big deal cause I have shafts I can install, but I’ve been debating on cutting the length down a 1/2”. Seems like a common thing with all my woods. Wether it’s driver, 3w , whatever… I always feel best at - 1/2”
41.50" EOG
80X shaft
D3.5
Jack Nicklaus used a 431/4” shaft in his driver. If it was good enough for him it’s good enough for me so I cut mine down to 43”. I didn’t notice any loss of distance. I’m not afraid to cut my shafts down if it results in more consistent contact…which it does. There’s only one way to find out. Go for it.
Switched to 4H and 5W….ditched 4I and 19 degree 3H…
I currently have a gap In my bag, I hit my driving iron 22.5° 210 rolls to 225 and then straight to 3 wood which is 245 carry to 260ish depending on tee vs deck, I’m wanting a club that carries 220-230 and stops quite quick as it’s the perfect club into both par 5’s at my course, so would you say a 7 wood over a 19° hybrid?
That's the whole reason for the vid. You gotta look at your data and numbers and make that call. Either can work based on player preference and profile.
Keep in mind at some point there will be a slight gap dependent on the amount of wedges you carry.
7 wood well worth a look though and test it alongside the hybrid.
Dive into this vid too (if you haven't already)
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Spurs icon would indicate you live in UK so watch that peak height as weather can result in a lower ball flight being more desirable..... that points to rescue BUT hard summer conditions points to 7 wood.
As I always say:
"your set needs to be viewed as a squad of players, you don't run them all out each week but certain games (courses) require certain players)
@@trottiegolf yeah UK mate, I only have 13 clubs in the bag at the minute so the gap is easily filled,
will have to book a gapping session at the range and hit both, but as you know with England, I might as well gear up for worse weather rather than the 2 weeks of summer 😂.
Class act as always Trottie, appreciate the reply mate. Love the content brother.
Players distance cavity irons works just as good as hybrids for me. Irons give me better dispersion than my hybrids. Hybrids give me slightly better height which is easier to hit
I like this play.....maybe a vid in here.
This is similar to what I have experienced.
I get a better more consistent dispersion with a game improvement iron, like a Callaway X20 for instance. Distance is about 10 years less than the same lofted hybrid, but more consistent and a better dispersion with the irons.
I am gaming a 7 wood and playing with the hybrids to fill he gap. My irons now start at a 6 iron.
The absolute worst thing you can do is try and be a hero in a bad spot. The hybrid seems to be an attempt to make a hero tool.
@trottiegolf I'd love to see that! I play Srixon irons, but the equivalent of a 770 P-6i, 790 5i, and QI10 in the 4 iron as a utility iron/driving iron. Very interested in your thoughts on that.
I'm much more comfortable with a hybrid profile. I lost the 4iron and now have a 3H and a 2H.
I was pleasantly surprised watching Fred Couples’ WITB! His longest iron is a 7 like mine! Maybe there’s a chance for me! Nah!
What shaft is that on the 7 wood 😮
P r O t o - KBS - Really like it, more to come
Love my 7 wood so much. My Dad passed his on to me because he couldn't gel with it. Has become my favourite club, so versatile. It's a 22 degree, but I've lofted it down a little. I also play an 18 degree 3 Hybrid, and like having that in the tool kit for those thicker lies.
And I'm torn between my 19* 3h and my 19* "4i".
I don't think I could get rid of my hybrid. It's my most dependable club and most versatile. I use it when I need a stinger in the trees to keep the ball down and below the trees. I can't do that with a 7 wood.
What turned you off from the PDHY?
PDHY was too big on the looks and didn't fly as high as the rescue I had. PUDI I liked but too close to my 3 iron so I opted for the P770 3i over that. Both PUDI and PDHY are good clubs but we're into personal preferences at the point where I opted out.
Young stud: driver, 3 wood, 2 iron
Aging stud: driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid, 4 iron
Add 5 years: driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid, 4 hybrid, 5 iron
Add 5 years: driver, 4 wood (lofted down 5 wood, 3+4 hybrid, 5 iron
Add 5 years: driver, 4 wood, 7 wood, 4 hybrid, 5 iron
Add 5 years: driver, 5 wood, 7 wood, 4+ 5 hybrid, 6 iron
Etc...as speed drops one needs more loft and more woods and hybrids.
So many Tour players still carry 3-iron or even 2-iron so I would not call those obsolete. There are players, that probably never will choose a hybrid.
Course dependent, tournament condition dependent.... BUT Yes
I carry both! D, 4W, 7W, 4H, 5-G, 54, 58
I haven’t played enough in the last few years to justify new clubs but if I was getting g back to more frequent play this is probably the set up I’d be gaming.
TM needs to get on board and just call it a hybrid 😂. They have tried for so many years to make rescue a thing
Just me but a hybrid is better from the rough. That being said just get a high launching 5 wood like my Taylormade Sim2. You can open it up or choke down on it if you want and it stops on a green like an iron. Now you have a 5 wood and a 3 hybrid (have a 4h also). Problem solved 😎
7wood fairway 4 hybrid out of the deep rough
Why not a 7 wood and a 24 or 25 degree rescue? Then the longest iron is a 5
That’s my exact set up. 7 wood lofted down to 20
Yea you can go there with that. I was more comparing apples for apples but yea that works as a preference
3 iron still works..
it has its place for sure with the right player
3 hybrid tour edition! It hauls ass
Thumbs down to TaylorMade shaft offerings. Can’t get a 90g shaft in any “wood”… which anyone north of 110SS is likely going to require in a 7wd. TM appears to be bottlenecking stronger players to ultra premium shaft up charges, from 3rd party distributors.
The 7 wood face is not a blade
"The 3 irons doesnt get air anymore."
My 3 iron will argue with you all day.
Why would you not just use a 3 iron? You can get plenty of height on it if you have above 90 mph swingspeed with your driver and the consistency of a 3 iron is unmatched. Anything above a 5 woods or hybrids are not made for players who have above 90mph swingspeed
Pretty sure it’s like 25% of PGA players have a 7 wood now. Theegala plays a 9 wood. Not sure why you think the 90 mph is the deciding factor. Players know how to hit different shots.
How many people actually play a 3 iron these days?
Would it not be to do with trajectory in different conditions? And for some, a 7 wood may be easier than a 3 iron for centeredness of strike
@@callumwells agreed I think all options should be considered for every player I just disagree with the premise that above average swing speed should always = iron. So many more factors go into consideration.
That's nowhere near enough speed. 100mph with a 3 iron and then it's a possibility. The greens on tour are so fast, you need land angle. Plus, the fairway wood is so much more forgiving.