Lighter doesn't mean unsafe. Many electric vehicles are so heavy that safety rails can't stop them. F1cars are light weight and fast with a similar hard tub construction around the driver. I am looking forward to the testing. I don't have any significant concerns.
There are two components to safety. Those inside the vehicle and those outside. Most if not all new pickup trucks and SUVs have significant blind spots to their front end, which have caused the death of an increasing number of pedestrians and bicyclists. Aptera's low nose will not recreate those situations where the driver simply doesn't see people on the street.
What used to be a 'crumple' zone has now been filled with the central motor. I hope the in wheel motors becomes available by the time I get my 1,000 mile range Aptera.
As we get closer to the validation phase with the Production Intent builds I feel confident that all the computer simulations will be proven in real world testing. Charge On Aptera!
The frontal impact simulation showed significant distortion of the occupant structure. No energy absorbing "shotgun" rails collapsing, just structural rails bending. SORB test (all collision energy on one side) would be a disaster.
When someone says "aerospace" or "military" technology I hear "cheapest (and lightest) possible option that does the job with barely a margain for safety".
@@ImpressiveTechView So they say. That something is used in military or aerospace doesn't mean it's automatically safe with civillian safety standards. And without side airbags at over 100km/h it's not going to be releaseable in many parts of the world.
@@landrover325 The Aptera is listed as 1,800 to 2,200 lbs depending on configuration. I, for example, drive a Honda fit. It is listed as 2,249 to 2,381 lb. So the Aptera is a little lighter, but not too much. So it is in the weight class of a compact car. But it is really going to come down to weight distribution with the Aptera. I suspect a lot of its weight sits on the front axle because that is where the engine is. Hopefully, that will give it good front-wheel traction.
There are no side airbags included with Aptera. There is a metal beam in the door to counter side impact damage. The Production Intent (PI) will be tested to Federal Government car safety standards by a third party experienced in car safety standards testing even though it is not required for the category of vehicle states will classify an Aptera as.
Aptera isn't a Car, it is an Autocycle. That means it doesn't have to pass the same crash tests as a regular car. I will have no problem driving my Aptera once it arrives.
"Inspired by the cage system of Formula One race cars" is somewhat persuasive, but the word "inspired" prompts questions. How close to Formula One is the design, really? Not having yet passed real-world tests is a valid concern, tho I assume Aptera's engineers would not be so foolish as to under-engineer their very first product to provide a survival space for its passengers. Overall it sounds like this story is simply premature, as we await the results of real-world crash tests.
Guess some of it may depend on how much you trust the simulations. If I'm recalling correctly, Aptera claims that the simulation crash testing is very accurate in the industry compared to the real world results. I don't really know much about it, but if a Miata can pass, I don't see why this won't.
All these people yelling about safety. When was the last vehicle you waited to buy until the crash tests were released? Exactly. At least this one will have been tested and the information released before they are on sale.
No doubt it will be safer than driving/riding a 2-wheel motorcycle. With a rollcage, airbags, abs (antilock braking traction control) and autopilot (to keep tailgating idiots away), hopefully you won't have to wear a helmet also (I do believe helmets are required in California even on 3-wheel " motorcycles, because they are classified by CA DMV as motorcycles. The biggest danger is being tailgated by a pickup truck. I do believe the normal Aptera driver will be an extremely cautious one ("don't you crash into my baby"). So - One Big Question - how much will auto insurance be - more than the average 4 wheeler, less than a 2-wheeler, less than a high performance sports car (think Chevy Corvette 400+ horsepower)? I suggest making the tailight/stoplight blink red at first, then a blazing white "TAILGATING DANGER" after 10 secs on the rear brake light(s). They'll slow down for fear of a police officer giving them a ticket.
There's so much wrong with this video. Airbag info is wrong, ADAS info is wrong. It's a bunch of scrambled video released by Aptera with an AI voice over. Whoever is responsible for this should be ashamed. Do better.
Unproven safety? How about un-DISpoven safety? Have you ever fishtailed in an unloaded pickup on wet/snowy roads? Or, how about high center of gravity SUVs that like to flip over when swerving at high speed? Inertia goes a long way. People can sometimes be overconfident driving a gun safe on wheels, thinking they're indestructible because they're in a heavy steel cage riding high above other traffic. While you can't defend yourself against the unpredictable, many accidents are avoidable when you're aware of your situation. Driver attitude goes a long way and overconfidence negates any practical safety features. There are many less-than perfect vehicles out there that have their particular weaknesses. I won't even bring up motorcycles and scooters...
Nothing was uncovered. Stop using a standup person that is not in sync with the person talking. Plus it is pointless to do a video about safety until you have something in hand to test.
Aptera is circumventing the safety regs by making it a 3-wheeler, which for Federal regulatory purposes makes it a motorcycle. However they seem to have persuaded the various states to define a new class of vehicle called an "autocycle" such that helmet laws and the like do not apply.
"Aptera is circumventing the safety regs by making it a 3-wheeler" This is misleading they made it a 3 wheeler for efficiency. "However they seem to have persuaded the various states to define a new class of vehicle called an "autocycle" such that helmet laws and the like do not apply." Another deceptive remark. The "autocycle" laws already exist in many states. Some states require helmets some safety glasses each state is different. Aptera does NOT have the lobbying power to change the laws in each state as you are suggesting. I don't even think they could do it in one state. Aptera is just adapting to the laws based on design. It will most likely be as safe as most vehicles on the road and 100% more safe then any other 3 wheel vehicle that I can think of like a Slingshot for example.
@@Fairburne69 Yeah, they make it efficient by ignoring safety regulations, which they can do because by Federal regulation it's a motorcycle. And in CT that "preexisting law" was passed in 2015.
@@johnbrobston1334 Lets be honest we don't know how safe it will be. To say its unsafe is dishonest. To safe its safe is dishonest. All we have are simulations. They will be doing crash testing once they have the PI vehicles ready. I do have my concerns and won't buy one if they don't do well by independent crash testing results. Sounds to me like you hate Aptera which is fine. Do you go on ever motorcycle page and talk about how unsafe they are? I'm willing to bet it will be safer then any car made 40 years ago when shoulder safety belts and airbags didn't exist. But until they get tested maybe you should stop making claims you can't support with evidence. Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
MORON its licensed as a motorcycle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its way safer than a motorcycle. This smells very agenda driven. ie follow the money who paid spectrum for this hit piece?
The carbon fiber parts are not structural anymore, they are just glued to the structural aluminium frame. There is no solid shell anymore. The aluminium frame has to survive a crash. Aptera is not agile, it is clumsy and wider than a Hummer H1. It is a deathtrap in case of an accident. Aptera did not pass any of the safety regulations necessary for a car. It is a motorcycle and does not have to. There was never any crashtest with an Aptera. The airbag is the only satey feature necessary in a 3 wheeled motorcycle so you do not need to wear a helmet. This YT is full of lies. There are no concrete independent data available. Just empty promises from Aptera.
@@timsmith6815 The aptera motorcycle is wider than a Hummer H1. See Aptera HP. If you look how the Gamma handles in a parking lot (YT video) you will see, that even a Hummer does a better job. No genius necessary, just simple facts and observations.
@@vic321344 There is video footage of the Aptera passing the "Moose Test". It did better then most modern cars on the road today. Especially SUV's and even a BMW. You are adding nothing constructive to the conversation. MOOSE TEST: The evasive manoeuvre test (Swedish: Undanmanöverprov; colloquial: moose test or elk test; Swedish: Älgtest, German: Elchtest) is performed to determine how well a certain vehicle evades a suddenly appearing obstacle. This test has been standardized in ISO 3888-2. Imagine a moose stepping out in front of you. You swerve to avoid it and then notice a vehicle quickly approaching so you have to immediately swerve back. Many modern cars don't do well with this test. The Aptera did extremely well. Why? The two biggest reasons are its light weight and low center of gravity.
AI crap. No new information here.
What?
For real. Jumping around it's repetitive and basically reciting Press Releases
Lighter doesn't mean unsafe. Many electric vehicles are so heavy that safety rails can't stop them. F1cars are light weight and fast with a similar hard tub construction around the driver. I am looking forward to the testing. I don't have any significant concerns.
Lo! You are right
There are two components to safety. Those inside the vehicle and those outside. Most if not all new pickup trucks and SUVs have significant blind spots to their front end, which have caused the death of an increasing number of pedestrians and bicyclists. Aptera's low nose will not recreate those situations where the driver simply doesn't see people on the street.
What are you blabbing about, my Ram truck has excellent front visibility, way better than our Accord. You obviously don’t have a truck.
No side air bags!
Noted.
What used to be a 'crumple' zone has now been filled with the central motor. I hope the in wheel motors becomes available by the time I get my 1,000 mile range Aptera.
As we get closer to the validation phase with the Production Intent builds I feel confident that all the computer simulations will be proven in real world testing. Charge On Aptera!
Light weight for a batterie car. You are correct time will tell. The most important factor in safety is the nut behind the wheel.
It is light weight
The frontal impact simulation showed significant distortion of the occupant structure. No energy absorbing "shotgun" rails collapsing, just structural rails bending. SORB test (all collision energy on one side) would be a disaster.
So much fear and doubt being sowed here! "answer all questions and doubts" but really just doubts.
When someone says "aerospace" or "military" technology I hear "cheapest (and lightest) possible option that does the job with barely a margain for safety".
What,
It is safe
@@ImpressiveTechView So they say. That something is used in military or aerospace doesn't mean it's automatically safe with civillian safety standards. And without side airbags at over 100km/h it's not going to be releaseable in many parts of the world.
Pontiac Fiero is my concern with these, so light they hydroplane and have no traction when you will need it to steer in water conditions.
The car weighs approximately the same as a typical internal combustion engine car because of the battery. So this really shouldn't be an issue.
@@jeffwalker7661
What new combustion car weighs 1,800lbs ?
@@landrover325 The Aptera is listed as 1,800 to 2,200 lbs depending on configuration. I, for example, drive a Honda fit. It is listed as 2,249 to 2,381 lb. So the Aptera is a little lighter, but not too much. So it is in the weight class of a compact car.
But it is really going to come down to weight distribution with the Aptera. I suspect a lot of its weight sits on the front axle because that is where the engine is. Hopefully, that will give it good front-wheel traction.
There are no side airbags included with Aptera. There is a metal beam in the door to counter side impact damage. The Production Intent (PI) will be tested to Federal Government car safety standards by a third party experienced in car safety standards testing even though it is not required for the category of vehicle states will classify an Aptera as.
Noted
I wish they would hurry and put the darn thing out already ...
Let me try one out .
Aptera Solar Autocycle American innovation at its finest.
Yeah, nice
Aptera isn't a Car, it is an Autocycle. That means it doesn't have to pass the same crash tests as a regular car. I will have no problem driving my Aptera once it arrives.
I ride a 3 wheel CanAm Spyder now, thus will be way safer than that. And I will not bake in the summer and freeze in the winter.
No side airbags
"Inspired by the cage system of Formula One race cars" is somewhat persuasive, but the word "inspired" prompts questions. How close to Formula One is the design, really? Not having yet passed real-world tests is a valid concern, tho I assume Aptera's engineers would not be so foolish as to under-engineer their very first product to provide a survival space for its passengers. Overall it sounds like this story is simply premature, as we await the results of real-world crash tests.
Guess some of it may depend on how much you trust the simulations. If I'm recalling correctly, Aptera claims that the simulation crash testing is very accurate in the industry compared to the real world results. I don't really know much about it, but if a Miata can pass, I don't see why this won't.
All these people yelling about safety. When was the last vehicle you waited to buy until the crash tests were released? Exactly. At least this one will have been tested and the information released before they are on sale.
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No doubt it will be safer than driving/riding a 2-wheel motorcycle. With a rollcage, airbags, abs (antilock braking traction control) and autopilot (to keep tailgating idiots away), hopefully you won't have to wear a helmet also (I do believe helmets are required in California even on 3-wheel " motorcycles, because they are classified by CA DMV as motorcycles. The biggest danger is being tailgated by a pickup truck. I do believe the normal Aptera driver will be an extremely cautious one ("don't you crash into my baby"). So - One Big Question - how much will auto insurance be - more than the average 4 wheeler, less than a 2-wheeler, less than a high performance sports car (think Chevy Corvette 400+ horsepower)? I suggest making the tailight/stoplight blink red at first, then a blazing white "TAILGATING DANGER" after 10 secs on the rear brake light(s). They'll slow down for fear of a police officer giving them a ticket.
Hahaha, Nice
There's so much wrong with this video. Airbag info is wrong, ADAS info is wrong. It's a bunch of scrambled video released by Aptera with an AI voice over. Whoever is responsible for this should be ashamed. Do better.
Unproven safety? How about un-DISpoven safety?
Have you ever fishtailed in an unloaded pickup on wet/snowy roads?
Or, how about high center of gravity SUVs that like to flip over when swerving at high speed? Inertia goes a long way.
People can sometimes be overconfident driving a gun safe on wheels, thinking they're indestructible because they're in a heavy steel cage riding high above other traffic.
While you can't defend yourself against the unpredictable, many accidents are avoidable when you're aware of your situation. Driver attitude goes a long way and overconfidence negates any practical safety features.
There are many less-than perfect vehicles out there that have their particular weaknesses.
I won't even bring up motorcycles and scooters...
Poor job on the research. As of now, there will be no side airbags.
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Nothing was uncovered. Stop using a standup person that is not in sync with the person talking. Plus it is pointless to do a video about safety until you have something in hand to test.
Lo!
Aptera is circumventing the safety regs by making it a 3-wheeler, which for Federal regulatory purposes makes it a motorcycle. However they seem to have persuaded the various states to define a new class of vehicle called an "autocycle" such that helmet laws and the like do not apply.
"Aptera is circumventing the safety regs by making it a 3-wheeler" This is misleading they made it a 3 wheeler for efficiency.
"However they seem to have persuaded the various states to define a new class of vehicle called an "autocycle" such that helmet laws and the like do not apply."
Another deceptive remark. The "autocycle" laws already exist in many states. Some states require helmets some safety glasses each state is different. Aptera does NOT have the lobbying power to change the laws in each state as you are suggesting. I don't even think they could do it in one state.
Aptera is just adapting to the laws based on design. It will most likely be as safe as most vehicles on the road and 100% more safe then any other 3 wheel vehicle that I can think of like a Slingshot for example.
@@Fairburne69 Yeah, they make it efficient by ignoring safety regulations, which they can do because by Federal regulation it's a motorcycle. And in CT that "preexisting law" was passed in 2015.
@@johnbrobston1334 Lets be honest we don't know how safe it will be. To say its unsafe is dishonest. To safe its safe is dishonest. All we have are simulations. They will be doing crash testing once they have the PI vehicles ready. I do have my concerns and won't buy one if they don't do well by independent crash testing results.
Sounds to me like you hate Aptera which is fine. Do you go on ever motorcycle page and talk about how unsafe they are? I'm willing to bet it will be safer then any car made 40 years ago when shoulder safety belts and airbags didn't exist.
But until they get tested maybe you should stop making claims you can't support with evidence. Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
It's a car
Crash testing will be up after PI 4,
Lets be abit patient
Full of bull.
What?
@@ImpressiveTechView You're selling the snake oil without doing the research. It's bull dust. Entertainment containing misinformation.
Click bait garbage.
Stopped watching as soon as you mispronounced the name.
Are you perfect?
MORON its licensed as a motorcycle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its way safer than a motorcycle. This smells very agenda driven. ie follow the money who paid spectrum for this hit piece?
🤔, this is your best hub for facts
The carbon fiber parts are not structural anymore, they are just glued to the structural aluminium frame. There is no solid shell anymore. The aluminium frame has to survive a crash. Aptera is not agile, it is clumsy and wider than a Hummer H1. It is a deathtrap in case of an accident. Aptera did not pass any of the safety regulations necessary for a car. It is a motorcycle and does not have to.
There was never any crashtest with an Aptera. The airbag is the only satey feature necessary in a 3 wheeled motorcycle so you do not need to wear a helmet.
This YT is full of lies. There are no concrete independent data available. Just empty promises from Aptera.
@@stix2you He mentions it shortly, after massivly snortig out the empty Aptera promises as a fact.
Thank you
Wow you know for fact the Aptera handles worse than a Hummer! What else do you know??? Please enlighten us!!
You sound like a Genius.
@@timsmith6815 The aptera motorcycle is wider than a Hummer H1. See Aptera HP. If you look how the Gamma handles in a parking lot (YT video) you will see, that even a Hummer does a better job. No genius necessary, just simple facts and observations.
@@vic321344 There is video footage of the Aptera passing the "Moose Test". It did better then most modern cars on the road today. Especially SUV's and even a BMW.
You are adding nothing constructive to the conversation.
MOOSE TEST: The evasive manoeuvre test (Swedish: Undanmanöverprov; colloquial: moose test or elk test; Swedish: Älgtest, German: Elchtest) is performed to determine how well a certain vehicle evades a suddenly appearing obstacle. This test has been standardized in ISO 3888-2.
Imagine a moose stepping out in front of you. You swerve to avoid it and then notice a vehicle quickly approaching so you have to immediately swerve back. Many modern cars don't do well with this test. The Aptera did extremely well. Why? The two biggest reasons are its light weight and low center of gravity.