When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams

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  • @eileenhartman8290
    @eileenhartman8290 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hi Lady's. I just want to thank all of you so much for the information. You are incredible. I'm 73. And I have been ill for over 41 years. It all started before my hysterectomy. I was 31. I have all this intense burning and itching inside my body and out. After my hysterectomy some months later, I went from bad to worse. The strangest symptoms. I was totally exhausted, muscle and joint pain, severe digestive problems, moods all over the place. My GP put me on HRT. Which I took for over 20 years. I had breast cancer 8 years ago. But for 41 years I have been ill. I had electric shocks from my brain down my spine. I have seen every Doctor and alternative therapists. Spent all my life's savings and got no where. I have done every diet on the planet, spent thousands on supplements, and just about every drug available. Then when I had breast cancer surgery and radiotherapy, I now have fibromyalgia. I was told 41 years ago I have M.E/chronic fatigue syndrome. Chemical sensitivitys. Multiple allergys. And so the list goes on. Then out of desperation I read a vegan diet was so healthy. For three years I juiced every day, did smoothie and protien shakes. I lost two stone in a few months. My GI Doctor sent me for a CT scan, then a pet Scan. It showe lessons on both my lungs. I was told it was lung cancer, may be coming from my breast again. I said I'm so sick, I can't go through any more treatment. It never worked before. Two days after my hospital visit, my husband and I went down with Covid. That's 19 months ago. Every thing got so bad. My hair started falling out, my skin itchy and flaky. My nails soft. And all my symptoms have gone ballistic. I read about histamine intolerance and mast cell activation. We told my GI Doctor 4 years ago that every thing that goes in my stomach makes me ill. He said a bad case of IBS, and I would have to live with it. But nothing has helped. My GP has tried all kinds if drugs, but every thing makes me so ill. I have mainly a carnivore diet with a few carbs. I'm a bag of bones. I can't put on weight no matter what I eat. I'm always hungry, thirsty, and not stop peeing. I feel every day as if I'm going to die. I have just learnt about mould. Our house has black mould which we are trying to get sorted. We can't afford to move. Most of my life I have lived in mouldy houses. I have just started working with a functional doctor, who we have just done a stool test, awaiting the results. I know about parasites, sibo, Candida, oxylates, and so on. But I have never heard of cirs, before your programme. I live in the UK. And I don't think any one has heard of this. It's some thing I may have had all my life. I take hi and h2 blockers, fish oil, vitamin e, d zinc Querciton, and what I can take one day I can't the next. The same with food. I'm not convinced I have lung cancer. Now I know about Mast cells and mould spores. I'm wondering if this could be what I have. I'm not sure yet if my functional doctor knows about cirs. I just feel since the vegan diet, and all the weight loss, that I'm not going to live much longer. I don't know where to get tested. Can you help please. God Bless all of you on your health journey. Eileen. X

    • @neondreams4016
      @neondreams4016 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hope god heals you completely. I’m sorry you went through so much pain.

    • @Marigold-ip3gw
      @Marigold-ip3gw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      30 years ago I became ill like you. I lost everything bc I was self employed with no medical insurance. I couldn’t take care of my children so my exhusband took me to court and took them away. It was the bottom of my living experience to be so ill and have my children taken. Fortunately a few people stepped up to help me by allowing me to babysit their children then another knew a woman who knew another woman who had also been sick like us. I was bedridden, thought I was dying daily, wads of hair came out with each wash. Everything made me severely ill, depressed and anxious. I was afraid to go anywhere bc smells could cause me to collapse. People thought I was crazy, they gossiped that I was faking it or a hypochondriac. The emotional toll was as harsh as the physical. Eventually people stopped trying to help bc I could smell them and it made me ill. Their hairspray, deodorant, fabric softener, hand lotion; I was deeply repulsed on a survival mechanism beyond my control. My nose would bleed for no reason, I hemorrhaged when I had my period, rashes would appear then disappear in 10 minutes to months later. I was terrified of what my body was doing and there was no internet back then. I read Is this your child by Dr Doris Rapp. That helped a lot. It took about 6 years before I climbed out of bed. Then another 15 or so to feel human. I doubt I’ll be 100% ever but I’m highly functional. I shared all this so you know you’re not alone. There are hundreds of thousands if not millions of us. I’m grateful I didn’t have medical insurance bc it forced me to go the natural way without doctors. I feel they would have delayed my healing and probably killed me bc I’m so chemically sensitive.
      Bless you! Btw get your ass out of that house immediately! Sell everything, take nothing with you and flee! Big hugs

    • @eileenhartman8290
      @eileenhartman8290 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Marigold-ip3gw Hi Marigold.
      Thank you for sharing. Your life has been hell. You sound like me a very strong willed person. But things are not that easy. We have a shared ownership. Which means we own part of the house, and the other half we rent. No one would buy a house we mould. It has to be fixed first. We have no where to go. We have rescue animals. And on Monday I'm staring radiotherapy for lung cancer which has grown and spread to the lymph nodes in my chest. If I don't have treatment I will die. I also have mast cell activation. Since I went vegan, and got covid two years ago. My body is attacking itself. My car is off the road at the moment. Two mechanics have no idea what's wrong. My car is an automatic which makes it so much easier to drive as I have had fibromyalgia for 8 years. I need a stick to walk with. My husband's car us manual. I can't drive it. So he has to drive me 60 miles a day for my treatment. He has a bad heart. And can't walk far since covid. He was a post man before covid, walking 15 miles a day. So live isn't good at the moment. I'm glad your life is so much better. I have been I'll 43 years now. And it's not getting any better. Cancer twice in 8 years. At 74 it's not easy.

    • @KarolinaPetursdottir
      @KarolinaPetursdottir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Put alcohol in a bottle and spray everything! Best thing I have found for micotoxins and getting rid of fragrances. All textiles I soke in water and baking soda to get rid of chemicals. Sorry to say it, but get out of the house and don't take anything with you. Believe me, I learned the hard way. I have 3 kids, a husband and 2 cats, and we were all sick from CIRS, and one of our cats died at 1 year old from moldsickness. The mold is killing you and your husband. Move in to a trailer or a tent in a backyard just don't stay there. I feel your pain 😞

    • @joanneclark8256
      @joanneclark8256 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have you looked under the chronic fatigue syndrome by Raylene, who deals with these kinds of symptoms?Have you worked on the nervous system yet?And your stress levels?I know that sounds crazy, but rewiring.Have you done that

  • @AllThingsConsidered333
    @AllThingsConsidered333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My daughter and I were in heavy mold for several years - in two homes. One had white & green molds.. when we moved out of there the detox caused me to be bedridden for 3 weeks then I had a lot of psychiatric symptoms & spiritual torment.. it was scary. I also had gall bladder attacks that were incredibly painful. Drs weren’t helpful.
    The next place we were only in for several months. Found out that the place was literally infested with toxic black mold! Apparently the landlord had scraped the mold off the walls, bleached the walls, then painted over it. Of course the mold was in the dry wall, in the roof & foundation..
    We had 5 days of torrential rain and the water cascaded down the inside walls, after that the mold bloomed and it was everywhere! My daughter developed breathing issues & allergies - mast cell activation syndrome. I lost half of my left lung function and got kidney damage. Also our guts were very much affected.
    It has taken years to recover and I wonder if there still is some issue with it. We finally found a dr who knew something. He got my girl started on Quercetin for MCAS and that was a huge improvement!
    We also got more tick bites 2 years after we moved into a clean home.. my health crashed and I nearly died a few times in the next year. Very interesting after a case of severe rhabdomyolysis that nearly killed me, my body made me transition from mostly plant diet to meat & fat. I craved meat & fat! I would eat spoonfuls of coconut oil every day. I started having many reactions to most fruits & veggies. It was frustrating bcs of course we are taught how healthy they are and to limit meat & fat & my body wants the opposite! I am so thankful to have found this channel recently! So many great interviews & such helpful info presented.
    We are both still dealing with persistent Lyme. Our wonderful dr retired last year. We have another one who is fairly open minded & willing to learn..
    We haven’t had much $$ due to losing everything from mold & my health so bad I could barely work part time. No $$ for testing. Barely enough to treat tick diseases which are most crucial at the moment.
    I’m always trying to learn more. Dave Asprey talks about mold and had a very informative interview with Dr Andrew Heyman. I also love Dr Chris Shade and he has talked about mold too. We use his liposomal supplements which have made a huge difference for us.
    Now I’m being more intentional about eating more carnivore and not feeling bad when I don’t want to eat plants. I started reacting to my afternoon salad.. it’s minimal and I thought only had non reactive ingredients and suddenly it was making me sooo tired that I’m literally falling asleep on my clients! (I’m a massage therapist/bodyworker)
    Then one of these videos popped up in my newsfeed and I finally watched it.. then I watched another and another. So much great info! Thank you all so much for sharing what you do with us!

    • @delaroache
      @delaroache ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for sharing. Im trying to figure all this out on my own with Brain on fire. “Spiritual Warfare” …yes absolutely.

    • @infiniteinfiniteinfi
      @infiniteinfiniteinfi ปีที่แล้ว

      I know a person who got rid of persistent Lyme with Antabus or Disulfiram. Might be worth learning more about.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disulfiram

    • @tammygonzalez9313
      @tammygonzalez9313 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh my, Would you mind elaborating a little bit about this? Yes, spiritual warfare! I'm going through it!!!

    • @eileenhartman8290
      @eileenhartman8290 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm so sorry you have been through such a dreadful time. Doctors know nothing about any of this. And all these tests costs an arm and a leg. Two tests and a consultation has cost me over a thousand pounds. And when I said I can't afford this. She wasn't very helpful. Having cancer as well, and I have lost about three stone now. I think it's back to my GP. I need a full body scan to see if my cancer has spread. It looks as if the vegan diet may have caused high levels of calcium in my parathyroid gland. That may mean the only way to calm things down is surgery. I can't eat plants or fruit any more,, as it makes me feel as if I'm going to die. I think I have oxylate poisoning. Stay away from plants every one. They are lethal.

    • @eileenhartman8290
      @eileenhartman8290 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Texasgirlinacrazyworld There is no need for remarks like that. You don't have to read our book. But If You were sick like we are. These TH-cam videos are invaluable to us. Please don't write remarks like this again.

  • @RelaxUnwindASMR
    @RelaxUnwindASMR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    been sick for almost 5 years now. Autoimmune tests normal, MRI, CT scans, blood work, hormones all normal. Thyroid slightly off but on medication. Finally after years took a mycotoxin urine test and two molds were found way off the charts. OTA and Chaetoglobosin A. Detoxed for a year and a half and just did another test. OTA almost back down to low levels but the other one did not budge. I was taking a mixture of clay, charcoal, and zeolite in a binder, liposomal glutathione, biofilm buster, methylated b12, and xclear for marcons in my sinuses. Bummed after all this time and money still have a high level of mold. Thankfully I am not bedbound like I used to be but dr just prescribed cholestyramine. I know it's not in my house due to ERMI test but I am a gardener and am outside in soil everyday so wonder if the mold came from my soil. Ugh, it's so annoying to not know where it's coming from. I also am sensitive to citric acid which is in so much stuff including the liquid b12 I was taking. I start getting vibrations when I eat blue cheese, a doctor had told me blue cheese will not activate symptoms, but I don't trust many doctors anymore. I know my body. Anyways, the point of this is that if you aren't improving after 6 months I would look into switching binders. It really depends on what is in your system. My binder worked great for OAT but not for the other one. Wish I would have known sooner.

  • @simoniqa
    @simoniqa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    CIRS:
    Chronic
    Inflammatory
    Response
    Syndrome
    Suggestion: Please say more than once what an acronym means because many of us don’t know what these things stand for.

    • @NutritionwithJudy
      @NutritionwithJudy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sorry about that, I've done several videos and interviews on CIRS so I assumed people know. My apologies.

    • @robinlillian9471
      @robinlillian9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There are several names for similar, related chronic illness(es) like MCAS (Mast Cell Activation Disorder), mold toxicity, multiple chemical sensitivity, chronic environmental illness, myalgic encephalomyelitis etc. A lot of it is only related to diet, because it can cause food sensitivities.

    • @antb3334
      @antb3334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robinlillian9471 all related to gut dysbiosis

    • @simoniqa
      @simoniqa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NutritionwithJudy, I appreciate you taking note AND all the work you do to help people like myself finally get to the bottom of health issues. I bring your book to my doctors, so they thumb through, see the infographics and can no longer frown and say eating only meat is dangerous; you need plants they're so much healthier.

    • @laurahuston2187
      @laurahuston2187 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have listened to many of these where CIRS acronym was not defined. Very frustrating and stopped listening to you for awhile.
      I did check the meaning after a long search in the comments, where they addressed this as well.
      To mention the full name a couple times would be helpful.

  • @rhojobaldwin
    @rhojobaldwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for this informative discussion. I began an illimination diet in Feb 2020. Removing all grains at that time, my inflammation and symptoms improved dramatically, however, crazy new seemingly unrelated things popped up, like vertigo, word loss, super dry skin and eyes. I have had allergies for years and after several series of injections to desensitize me in my college years, I simply moved away from the moldy area of the country I lived in and felt amazing. I have been keto for six months and just started carnivore this week and suddenly all my hand pain and joint stiffness came back after working to remediate a moldy environment that was recently discovered. This video popped up. WOW! Who knew! Took the vision test only and failed. Now what?

  • @AmalineB
    @AmalineB ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's been difficult for me to navigate this still after decades. I was diagnosed for CIRS since 2013 but suffered way longer. I went through the protocol and I have gotten better but being sensitive to the environment causes ongoing hormonal issues. I struggle with weight gain and had done keto for three years before experiencing major gallbladder issues and severe plateau with fasting... and then gained all the weight back and more simply eating organic home made meals -gluten free, corn free, soy free, rice free... all grains eliminated. But I had been eating nut-based gluten free crackers and wraps. I am curious if carnivore could even help me without getting into gallbladder trouble again. I had a lot of trouble with binders as well in my journey. I hope you all don't end up like me in a decade... gaining weight and not being able to loose it no matter what is tried. I have never had skin issues but I did have electric shock, light and sound sensitivity, night terrors, joint pain, fatigue, brain fog, adrenal fatigue, ovarian cysts and cycle disturbances, pain all over, blurred vision, etc.

    • @rayshoesmith
      @rayshoesmith ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds similar to me with the exception of gender specific issues, I did have complete symptom remission after 15 days on lion diet, but went back to square one as soon as i ate chicken.
      I have just started carnivore back and I am on day 5 and starting to feel well again.
      If your having issues with your gall bladder try bile salts inbetween your binders.
      Have you done a stomach acid test, very easy just drink some bicarb soda mixed with water, if you burp within 1 minute the stomach acid is OK, anything greater and you have low levels and may need a boost

  • @zumchick
    @zumchick ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have been carnivore for a year, and I believe I have CIRS. I have been watching Dr Andrew Heyman on the subject. It is overwhelming. I was living in an apartment (7 months) that was full of mold. I was really sick for 10 years. I had many frustrated doctors who couldn't figure out anything. I was told I had depression and Fibromyalgia. I constantly felt like I had the flu and the feelings would come and go in the same day. I had a mouth full of canker sores in my mouth for about 9 years and I also had "athletes foot" for about 10 years. This I got dishydrotic eczema on my feet which made my heels itch really bad every night. Carnivore has help most of my issues, but I haven't gotten rid of the dishydrotic eczema. My feet only itch if I eat off plan which I do from time to time. I had so many health issues. Most are better but no 100 percent.

  • @patriciathorpe1652
    @patriciathorpe1652 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank God for this information!

  • @annebeck2208
    @annebeck2208 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    YES, it would be so helpful if the Surviving Mold would actually tell you what the diet recommendation is (Carnivore or even Keto). 10 years ago I found them, but did not understand their diet reccomendations and only the GAPS diet seemed to fit, but at the time had too much squash and very restrictive on meat and required bone broth (high hystamines). I ended up staying on my low fat, organic mostly plant based diet, which did NOT help me heal as well as Carnivore or even Keto.

  • @med77m26
    @med77m26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You could compare or look at treating your toxicity to mold while still being exposed to the mold environment, the same as; taking a daily allergy medicine to treat your seasonal allergies or environmental allergies. The treat does help maybe not 100%, but enough to make your the way you feel better and to stop the toxins from adding up more toxins.

  • @TinyCamperTammy
    @TinyCamperTammy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you ever see a vcs test getting positive again after going carnivore for 2 weeks?

  • @linditajoti668
    @linditajoti668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you nutrition Judy this is an excellent video .🙏🏼

  • @NutritionwithJudy
    @NutritionwithJudy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You can find Barbara and Jacie's Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) + Carnivore group here: login.circle.so/checkout/group-membership?request_host=thecirsgroup.circle.so

    • @buster12336
      @buster12336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The link says that a person needs to join before being allowed to enter.

  • @IvyRosethebus
    @IvyRosethebus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What are the 2 medicines you are saying at 17:50? I want to research them.
    I have been carnivore for four years. I’ve plateaued and I’m not getting any better. I am extremely chemical sensitive so I want to research these drugs.
    Thank you so much for your help you are helping millions thank you

    • @Silentchatterbox
      @Silentchatterbox ปีที่แล้ว

      Cholestyramine and Welchol

    • @BeingHamsa
      @BeingHamsa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi did you try them in curious if it helped you continue healing? Thank you.

    • @IvyRosethebus
      @IvyRosethebus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BeingHamsaHi. I did not try them. Sorry

    • @BeingHamsa
      @BeingHamsa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IvyRosethebus how are you doing? did you try something else? thanks

    • @IvyRosethebus
      @IvyRosethebus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BeingHamsaI had been “cheating “ about 2-3 times a month on carnivore. Beginning August I’m going 100%. I started taking quercertin. That has helped. I was poisoned by a fluoroquinolone antibiotic cipro. I have issues 🤣

  • @Errricccc
    @Errricccc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an awesome video! Thank you, Judy and the featured ladies. I hope this can be me after working with you and Dr. Peg. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @brittney3156
    @brittney3156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Relate so much.

  • @Stuart.Branson.
    @Stuart.Branson. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It matters not what you consume if you allow people to inject you with poison ever.

    • @squeakypistonproductions2228
      @squeakypistonproductions2228 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pre-natal nutrition of the mother has a much bigger influence than vaccines over the baby's health. Even if there are adverse reactions to vaccines they are rare.

  • @robinlillian9471
    @robinlillian9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Carnivores eat a lot of beef, and beef is almost always aged before being cut into portions. The (usually harmless) bacteria that grow on it make histamine. Chicken and pork and other animal products that are not old/aged/fermented are relatively low in histamine. Histamine is necessary to the body. The dose makes the poison. Cut down on your histamine exposure, and later you may be able to tolerate more again.

    • @Doridoesthings
      @Doridoesthings 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet, chicken and pork make me itch but beef doesn't... 🤔🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @antb3334
      @antb3334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don’t be concerned with histamine. Heal your gut and this will go

  • @Mondegreen2020
    @Mondegreen2020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been full carnival diet for months now. Fairy floss, candy, toffee apples, chocolate etc. My health deteriorated rapidly after just a few days & my weight gain has been shocking.

  • @AllThingsConsidered333
    @AllThingsConsidered333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Judy do you think people get much symptoms from eating meat from grain fed animals? Grains and even hay can and often does have molds in it, plus the antinutrients in the grains.. thanks for your input

    • @gordlr1
      @gordlr1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes i never feel great with non organic meat

    • @AllThingsConsidered333
      @AllThingsConsidered333 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gordlr1 organic doesn’t mean no grain it means organic grain…

  • @marynamarousa9729
    @marynamarousa9729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Judy! Great talk! Please,can you help, my husband definitely has it! Last 4 years we are carnivores, lots of improvement, but lately he is suffering more then ever(( He doesnt need to take a test, i will encourage him to take a visual test, he wants to get the meds and program. We live in Cyprus,( there is no help with doctors here, we tried everything) where do we start and with whom ? Thank you so much, as always loved the content of your info. God bless you all, for trying so hard!

  • @kaylee500
    @kaylee500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm still working on saving up money for this testing. Also trying to get moved into another house. Money is tight but I'll get there.

    • @NutritionwithJudy
      @NutritionwithJudy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Try staying at a different place for a while. if you feel better, you might be suffering from a water-damaged building.

    • @gabrielbarrantes6946
      @gabrielbarrantes6946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NutritionwithJudy how much time should be?

  • @Thewellshomestead
    @Thewellshomestead 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is Jacee doing binders through Judy's program or somewhere else? I've got a 16 told daughter who is sick and we had been in a moldy house.
    And how do I know which HLA to check her for?

  • @janetmalone9629
    @janetmalone9629 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WOW!!! 😮❤😢😮
    I need help Judy…. I think that I have CIRS but how do I “test”? I think my 16 year old daughter has the same issues as me. Is it possible to “clean up” my moldy home??? Carnivore has made a huge improvement but I am feeling feeling overwhelmed thinking about “remediation” because I see so much mold in my home but I and my husband really love our home that we’ve lived in for 25 years.

  • @bluedove7876
    @bluedove7876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi Judy, I spoke with you briefly at KetoCon in Austin about my severe pain in my left foot and you suggested mold might be an issue. I'm one of those who passed the Contrast Vision test, but still struggling with symptoms like Chronic Pain in my feet, joints and muscles and Seborrheic Dermatitis. My Sodium and Chloride blood markers have been low (Mag on low end of range) despite salting to taste and supplementing with Keto Chow Daily Minerals, Electrolytes and Magnesium. I do check 8 of the boxes for symptoms and I have relocated this year due to water damage and mold.
    Is there any reason to NOT pursue some level of self-administered treatment for CIRS? I already follow an animal based diet (for over a year) and take a fish oil supplement and have Redmond's Bentonite Clay on hand. My cholesterol is elevated, so it seems likely my Dr would be willing to prescribe the cholestyramine if I asked for it. I don't have any practitioners nearby who specialize in CIRS treatment and would just like to do some self testing if this is an avenue to pursue for me.

    • @NutritionwithJudy
      @NutritionwithJudy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, I would recommend testing further. The cholestryamine or CSM binder is not the last step of the protocol and so while you can get the CSM as a cholesterol reducer, you won't be able to get teh VIP spray without a CIRS knowledgeable provider. You can reach out to my team and we can discuss your options more offline.

  • @Tam438
    @Tam438 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wondering where I can find the visual contrast study? Thanks

  • @van123446
    @van123446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Judy asks, " how can a really clean diet make you worse?" My guess is that many of us here have or have had metabolic issues with sugar, including fruit... I know I have. Having high uric acid levels, I have looked into how Candida feeds on purines. Meat has and creates purines. When Candida feeds on these Purines they create uric acid. High uric acid levels carry many side effects showing as all sorts of symptoms. My guess is that there are many pathways involving Candida, which most of us have. As discussed before I can only eat relatively smaller amounts of meat. Eaten to satiety and my uric acid levels increase to the point where it can easily be seen in my collected urine, and I have had gout twice, when levels were high. So currently I have to use highly fermented A2 raw dairy or cottage cheese, also A2 and raw, as part of my 'carnivore' regime to keep UA in check. I am now looking into reducing my Candida load. Wondering if any of you have used Biofase, which is an enzyme product that supposedly digests the bio film and Candida cell itself?
    Also worth watching Judy's episodes with Dr. Garret Smith on Vit A and copper toxicity. as those symptoms can also overlap.. I had/have Vit A toxicity from indulging daily for years on liver, kidneys and testicles... Thankfully I watched her shows and quit. Those organs really immediately increase uric acid, and the liver could have easily fed my Candida with it's associated carbs.

    • @robinlillian9471
      @robinlillian9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you have an allergy or digestive problems, a "clean" diet can definitely make you worse. High uric acid is only one problem. Some people are sensitive to salicylates, histamine, etc. A diet high in beef can make you very sick if histamine is a problem for you. All beef is aged, and the (otherwise safe) bacteria that grow on it produce histamine.

  • @722Mystic
    @722Mystic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Cholestyramine wrecked what was left of my digestion so when I went carnivore I had severe gastritis and couldn’t eat solids for a month! I’m back on strict carnivore after pounding DEs multiple times a day and still have milder gastritis after mid-day meal. But my face is a worse mess than ever, heart palps & random histamine flares, and most CIRS symptoms. But I looked up Welchol and side effects look worse than cholestyramine, and I already have most of those. I need a truly natural way to detox severe mycophenolic acid poisoning withOUT yet another toxic chemical purporting to help me. After 12 years guinea pig with the medical mafia incl fxl med, I trust NOTHING from pharma!

    • @delaroache
      @delaroache ปีที่แล้ว +2

      12 years . I feel you pain. Hopefully we’ll get healthy soon

    • @newsdropz5361
      @newsdropz5361 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you find anything useful? Best wishes

    • @arlenefisher1164
      @arlenefisher1164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What are DE's?

  • @misse8031
    @misse8031 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:54 Honestly, i miss cake donuts, lol 😅

  • @purrview
    @purrview 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello And thank you for getting the CIRS more visibility. This is great! I wanted to ask a question, Dr Heyman has stated that diet and food didn't get you into CIRS and it won't get you out of it either. What would be your reason for thinking carnivore would help enough to heal CIRS? or are you sharing that it won't be the reason your body heals with CIRS but would help bring down inflammation enough to kick start the healing? Regarding the "Steps" would you think carnivore diet would help initially jump start healing? Also I do fit into the camp of pronouncing it s CIRS and not SEARS. There is a SIRS which is Systemic Inflammatory Response Syndrome and that is not the same as CIRS. But I do recognize people have different accents and it may sound differently so I am just happy people are beginning to talk about this, funny how people could fight about that lol. God Bless You all on your efforts.

  • @jamesmcmahonii8433
    @jamesmcmahonii8433 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see these guys improved. I've got MMP9 so high it's caused tissue necrosis in my legs and arms. The only number I can't get down is the mmp9.

    • @NutritionwithJudy
      @NutritionwithJudy  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check Lyme. MMP9 is often related to Lyme and coinfections (especially if persistent with CIRS treatment)

    • @jamesmcmahonii8433
      @jamesmcmahonii8433 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @NutritionwithJudy Hi Judy! Great videos. These are really helpful to many people.
      I just got back from Sanoviv Institute to get rid of it, along with babesia, and Bart using Hyperthermia. IL-6 is now 0, IL-2 decreasing, but still very hypoxic. What's interesting is the no amylose and fish oil don't lower mmp9 for me.
      It's always a question of is MMP9 a result of the hypoxia or vice versa. And then what inflammation is causing hypoxia if not MMP9. Auto immune panel clear, leptin, vip, comp c4a normal. CIRS is certainly complex in whether it is the chicken or the egg.

    • @marketrader1972
      @marketrader1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamesmcmahonii8433 How was your experience at Sanoviv? How long did you stay? I am considering going to treat my CIRS/mold illness. Have small fiber neuropathy and horrible CIRS panel results.

  • @kellwx
    @kellwx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Judy, I’ve been watching your videos for quite some time! I’m a carnivore for about 4yrs+, i suffered mold symptoms on my previous house (moved out Mar 2023), but the symptoms are still lingering inside me, I suffered red eyes and occasional pricking sensation on my eyeball when I was still in my previous home, and currently have swollen lymph nodes at the back of my neck, constricting vocal cords for about 6-7 years, also experienced stiff back when I wake up in the morning, blurred vision or rather hard to focus (just to name a few). The thing is, I’m located in Singapore, how can I get the binders, CSM? I don’t think there’s a CIRS practitioner here in Singapore. Many thanks in advance! I’m also very interested in Dr Shoemaker course on CIRS, got the recovery manual too. I’m a FDN practitioner, and planning further into the field of mold issues (CIRS) for helping my future clients.

  • @authenticmslife
    @authenticmslife ปีที่แล้ว

    It never occurred to me that the electric shock think could be a health issue. I get shocks from everything even when no one else around me does. Crazy.

  • @nunyabiz2955
    @nunyabiz2955 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im being treated by Dr. Irma Rey for my ME/CFS and mold illness. Im taking clay and charcoal but its been 4 years and im still sick. Can you take chlorestrstrymine on an MAOI?

  • @thidaporniamsutta
    @thidaporniamsutta ปีที่แล้ว

    We have both been Vegan for 15 years, my significant other was and will be again, after this hell, a very strong, healthy person. A high level multisport athlete, martial artist and never felt one symptom in his life. My question is, what do you think about a WFPBD (Whole foods plant based diet)?

    • @MartinaNutritionalTherapy
      @MartinaNutritionalTherapy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have CIRS and i was bedbound whilst being whole food plant based and only started to be able to get out of bed when i reintroduced red meat for most meals

  • @Hrothgar2010
    @Hrothgar2010 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do either of you have an update since this was recorded? I was treating for mold toxicity for two years, including choleystyramine for a portion of that, but getting reinfected with Covid has knocked me down twice now and I unfortunately have not healed.

  • @davidhodge144
    @davidhodge144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s taken for lipid replacement therapy? Sunflower Lecithin? If so, isn’t this breaking the carnivore diet?

    • @coya4321
      @coya4321 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      High dose fish oil or omaprem

  • @juliannelusvardi2912
    @juliannelusvardi2912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is a cmarker what is a mmsp9?

  • @staceya9580
    @staceya9580 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cripes! That chart, I don’t have cramps and shortness of breath, and I don’t know what static shocks are, but I have all the other symptoms 😞

  • @sharonelomax4663
    @sharonelomax4663 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can you get testing? We are resting this house we recently had a downpour rain water damage in our living room and in our bedroom the agency is coming out to replace the whole window seal and our bedroom but still we are here. I want to be tested and also how can we clean or do to make our lives better?

  • @emilye709
    @emilye709 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I find step by step instructions for the protocal?

    • @thatguy1729
      @thatguy1729 ปีที่แล้ว

      Google "Shoemaker protocol"

  • @nicolebolling6086
    @nicolebolling6086 ปีที่แล้ว

    Began carnivore 2 months ago so hoping this takes care of the 11 symptoms I have from this CIRS list but so glad to know help is out there!

  • @arlenefisher1164
    @arlenefisher1164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the difference between CFS/ME and SIRS?

  • @terrakelly8123
    @terrakelly8123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a CIRS doctor in Colorado?

    • @SkylerF
      @SkylerF 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, Dr. Eric Doringer at Roots and Branches

  • @nomade438
    @nomade438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of binder you took?

  • @coya4321
    @coya4321 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why welchol over CSM?

  • @brihilton
    @brihilton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My husband and I both passed the vision test but failed the symptoms assement with both having 31 out of 37 symptoms( different ones). I am just so confused whether to get tested or not having passed the vision test. Also, is this something insurance helps cover in a doctors office or is it all out of pocket testing? We live on an island and every single building has some form of mold. They are currently planning to condemn our houses due to various factors( base house) and we see mold badly in our showers/bathroom walls.

    • @tammygonzalez9313
      @tammygonzalez9313 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, it's all out of pocket

    • @thatguy1729
      @thatguy1729 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@tammygonzalez9313 Blood tests are often covered by insurance if ordered by a Dr

    • @thatguy1729
      @thatguy1729 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can pass vision test and still have cirs.

    • @tammygonzalez9313
      @tammygonzalez9313 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatguy1729 that would be great! Mine never was accepted.

  • @AllThingsConsidered333
    @AllThingsConsidered333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I also invested in an Ion Cleanse Foot Detox in 2014 before I got super sick from mold (we were in it and it definitely was affecting me)…
    When I used it the water was brown, indicating liver meridian.. after I took manual lymph drainage bodywork classes, the water would be black! In those classes we all worked on each other of course and it was mostly organ based, so we were stimulating detox of my organs…
    I would be so sick after these classes that I had to take 2 weeks off afterwards so I could recover. I didn’t realize it was bcs the mold detox…
    I feel that investing in the Ion cleanse was the single best investment in my health. They gave me a 4 year payment plan with low monthly payments and that’s how I was able to afford it.
    I have used the ion cleanse so much since then, it has helped so much with helping reduce my symptoms including burning bone pain from Bartonella, and it’s been interesting watching the quality of the water change over the years as I went through treatment…
    Now I have a Healy resonance device (another payment plan) and that has been incredibly helpful for both my daughter and I with our continued struggles with tick-borne diseases and mast cell activation

  • @julienelson4874
    @julienelson4874 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does oxalate poisoning fit in with this?

  • @BrendaHall1
    @BrendaHall1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did the test and got positive. I can’t order the blood work because I’m in NJ???

    • @NutritionwithJudy
      @NutritionwithJudy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can email customer support and we can try to help

  • @sophiabednarski2114
    @sophiabednarski2114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of cholesterol binder do you suggest?

    • @briandesilets8425
      @briandesilets8425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s called cholestryamine. You take it 4 times a day for a month or two. Amazing what it can do. P.s. it’s like drinking sand.

  • @realitychick1826
    @realitychick1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone catch what binding agent/medication they recommend?

    • @NutritionwithJudy
      @NutritionwithJudy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's cholestyramine. (CSM) and for the more sensitive it's Welchol (colesevelam) You need a prescription to get it.

    • @realitychick1826
      @realitychick1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NutritionwithJudy Thanks so much!!

    • @robinlillian9471
      @robinlillian9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NutritionwithJudy There are also nonprescription binders that are used, like charcoal capsules. It depends on what is causing your problems.

    • @actlikebarbara
      @actlikebarbara 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinlillian9471 those will not work for CIRS, unfortunately.

    • @briandesilets8425
      @briandesilets8425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@actlikebarbara it’s crazy that people always try to suggest modifying a protocol they don’t even understand.

  • @robinlillian9471
    @robinlillian9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "You're doing it wrong," used to be just the vegan's excuse for why so many people quit being vegan due to health problems.

    • @Ehlaar
      @Ehlaar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right I hate where the movement is going carnivore used to be do what works for you not stay strict

  • @dineshgaikwad9178
    @dineshgaikwad9178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are binders? Their availability?

    • @robinlillian9471
      @robinlillian9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends on what you are detoxing from.

    • @briandesilets8425
      @briandesilets8425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cholestryamine. It is easily awailable. It’s like drinking sand

    • @thecirsgroup
      @thecirsgroup 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      CSM or welchol are the two that can treat CIRS. They must be prescribed.

  • @tedward720
    @tedward720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've heard that some of the inflammatory markers/molecules/substances have a half-life of 30days - - - So that once-a-month chocolate doughnut may still have been compiling inflammation.

    • @robinlillian9471
      @robinlillian9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Histamine from beef can also cause inflammation in sensitive people and maybe not a doughnut you ate last month. Anything to avoid facing the reality that not everyone can tolerate the same diet.

  • @Stranger_Strange_Land
    @Stranger_Strange_Land 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so frustrated! My skin and acne are NOT improving!
    When i went vegan i saw way more improvement in my body, my acne, and my sleep than any diet I've tried.
    I only quit vegan because i was sick of eating all day long.
    Now, after a month on Carnivore I'm about to go back to vegan for lack of results that *EVERYONE* else but me seems to enjoy

    • @suelloyd4384
      @suelloyd4384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It may be that something else is adding to your skin condition issues.

    • @jaengamusic
      @jaengamusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Have you tried longer than a month? 30 days is not very long to go from one extreme to the other

    • @thidaporniamsutta
      @thidaporniamsutta ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are awesome!! My partner and myself have been Vegan for 15 years and feel great. He was very healthy, had zero issues and always felt good until 5 years ago when his mystery illness began after moving into a condo he was renting. He and myself would love to connect with you and talk, do you use Instagram by any chance..?
      God bless you.

    • @HomesteadingForHealth
      @HomesteadingForHealth ปีที่แล้ว

      How much iodine and Boron do you get?

    • @Stranger_Strange_Land
      @Stranger_Strange_Land ปีที่แล้ว

      @HomesteadingForHealth i ate a lot of iodized sea salt, since i was warned about needing it while on the carnivore diet.
      I know boron is in some fruit, i did eat some avocado with my steaks and drank some coffee in the mornings (which has traces).
      However when i took my blood test after the month all my levels were normal and good except my cholesterol which was high for the first time in my life. Not crazy, just a couple points into the high profile, but it's always been pretty normal and stable.

  • @robinlillian9471
    @robinlillian9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you are sensitive to salicylates/phenols, a meat only diet might make you feel better, at least initially. Most fruits and lots of vegetables are high in salicylates. So many that a short list of the most common with negligible amounts is much easier: peeled apples & pears, seedless grapes, celery, peeled white potatoes, cabbage, bean sprouts, rice, and wheat (obviously not for gluten sensitive). The peel has the most salicylates. Most herbs and spices are high in salicylates, except for cilantro and parsley. Tomatoes and eggplant can irritate histamine problems.

    • @antb3334
      @antb3334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just heal your gut

    • @nicolebolling6086
      @nicolebolling6086 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch Judy Cho interview with Sally Norton on oxalates, a different plant antinutrient that is at least as problematic...

  • @emilye709
    @emilye709 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad actually died from hepatitis C because he was taken off the liver donor list for drinking. So, that example is probably the worst one to use.

  • @keithwhitlock726
    @keithwhitlock726 ปีที่แล้ว

    RM86 kills household mold.

  • @carrieramalho5162
    @carrieramalho5162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the genetic factor? Is the "bucket" the liver?

    • @briandesilets8425
      @briandesilets8425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      HLA DR by PCR is the test. Done at labcorp.

  • @emilye709
    @emilye709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got 43% on the vision test, and I was also going to have my partner take it to see that it was legit, lol

  • @ToxiCom-777
    @ToxiCom-777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an objective observer: Too bad the extreme tattooing is not just an eyesore but also brings into question 'good judgment'.

  • @mrazik131
    @mrazik131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    sounds like oxalates dumping and many oxalates symptoms....

    • @thecirsgroup
      @thecirsgroup 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      similar but not quite the same thing! Anyone suffering with oxalates should consider CIRS as a possibility for root cause healing.

    • @gabrielbarrantes6946
      @gabrielbarrantes6946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are people one year + into carnivore, so no oxalates left

  • @GCT1990
    @GCT1990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every single symptom listed here matches with Benzodiazepines injuries

  • @johnmirbach2338
    @johnmirbach2338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤓👌🖖✌👍😎

  • @karenf9137
    @karenf9137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of the mentioned symptoms sound a little like a Boron deficiency.🤔

  • @searchingforwhatislooking
    @searchingforwhatislooking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, what is the root cause? I have been through the same thing, but it seems to be a toxicity issue in the body. Why would the body not be able to get rid of the toxins. I took cholestyramine and it didn't work... I also went on a raw meat diet with organ meats, and it cleared 98% of the problems. I believe the jab is behind most of this to include the sick buildings and toxic overload since the industrial revolution. Mold is so advance that no one really knows how to deal with it. I have never met a single individual who has rid their body of a deep fungal infection. If it can live in a bucket of paint for years on end, there is no way you're getting it out of your body once it gets in your blood stream and into your organs.

  • @desmomotodesmomoto2033
    @desmomotodesmomoto2033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bikini competition is the worst thing for women and their health.
    If you want to be infertile, join bikini competitions.

  • @john2914
    @john2914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder why women have such odd issues?

    • @Yoyo-kp8sf
      @Yoyo-kp8sf ปีที่แล้ว

      Female Hormones Make it Worse, definetly

  • @robinlillian9471
    @robinlillian9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Humans are omnivores. They are NOT carnivores or herbivores. Making believe in lies won't change reality. Sooner or later it will come back to bite you.

    • @sarminilidya9245
      @sarminilidya9245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its just your belief too bro. You got 0 proof so far in your comment.

    • @jt4621
      @jt4621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Humans are omnivores however I believe that sometimes we need to eat more or less of certain things at different times in their lives or even seasonally. If you eat by the season (meat only in winter, meat and greens in spring, everything in summer and fall) you are very close to eating like our ancestors and I believe that to be optimal.

    • @carolbrooks9161
      @carolbrooks9161 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That makes a lot of sense.

  • @sabincioflec8413
    @sabincioflec8413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do they know their mthfr status? Homozygous for c677t ( like me ) detox so bad, we need extra colagen, creatine and I'm sure binders too, pooping more often seems to help. Also coconut oil seems good for overall health and killing bad stuff in your gut that increases endotoxins.

  • @StefanAPagel
    @StefanAPagel 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    CIRS in Germany means Critical Incident Reporting System. Searching for chronic inflammatory response syndrome translated to German brings up loads of pages about COVID in Google. How can I find help in Germany? Carnivore/Lion diet for 14 month, but joint pain, weakness etc keeps coming and going. Any tips how to get help in Germany?