This is one of the best and most objective videos I've seen relating to the differences and advantages/disadvantages of FF and m4/3's systems. I recently retired from a professional photography career successfully using Olympus 4/3's systems for the 18 years, doing mostly weddings, portraits, and corporate events. In all that time, I never had a client complain about image quality -- ever.
Thank you Greg! It's so true, if you are looking at a MFT photo and a FF photo at normal viewing distances it's impossible to tell the difference. No client will go into pixel-peeping :)
@@tdawg719Not weird at all, if you read what I wrote, I said Olympus 4/3's systems -- not Olympus m4/3's systems. I shot weddings and corporate events with Olympus E-1's, E-3's, and E-5's before converting to m4/3's. They all us 4/3's sensors.
@@gregm6894Excuse me, I am an mft user, but the only pro lens I have is the panaleica 100-400mm ii and I am really happy with it for wildlife. However, I am debating wherever to get a ff camera for portraits, do you have mft lenses recommendations that you came across your career instead of a second system? I am thinking the panasonic 35-100f2.8.
Great comparison review, I recently picked up the OM-1 after years of shooting full frame Canon, after injuring my arm and arthritis I can really appreciate the smaller and lighter lenses of the OM-1, also I find the colors are closer to Canon and more pleasing vs the Sony.
I always found Sony's neutral colours better than Canon so need to get used to Olympus colours. But it's such a joy to use. Small, light and lots of great features.
Have you tried the muted setting for the Olympus? Been using E-M1 m2 for a couple years now and been very happy with it. The weather sealing is on another level too!
Glad you discovered the joy of using Olympus. As a long time user of Olympus gear plus a Nikon D750, I can honestly say I far prefer the Olympus for shooting experience and enjoyment. One thing that you have not mentioned, nor virtually any other review on YT is the inbuilt supersonic wave dust reduction on all Olympus cameras. In my 15 years use, I have never once have to clean any Olympus sensors! As for my Nikon D750, sadly and at some expense, I have to clean the sensor numerous times every year and even once send back to Nikon for cleaning.
I know what you mean about the Olympus SSW, I have been an Olympus user for many years from E-510, EM1mkii & iii, Pen-F, never had to clean my sensor once, but had a Sony A7iii for 1 x week and had to clean the sensor. I hear that the bigger sensor attracts more dust due to the larger charge. Another tip is to delay removing or switching the lens after switching off fora few moments to allow the charge to dissipate. I love my Olympus.
I actually had to wet-clean the sensor of my Pen F once - there was something sticking to it (might've been pollen). But other than that, it is as you said.
Same here! It's a pitty that people are discovering the marvelous olympus after the camera department got sold... OM systrms are doing a great job continuing the legacy (I'm blown away with the om1), I just hope they keep the momentum and that pioneer mentality/vision olympus had...
Nice job! I had a Canon FF and 2 years ago I rented a E-M5 mkii for 5 days in Utah out of curiosity and was blown away. I sold all of my beloved Canon lenses and the body and went directly to Olympus. Before sending off my Canon I did a comparison shot similar to yours of my daughter using the 70-200 f4L and the Lumix 35-100 2.8 and was blown away! I would say the M43 was actually a bit sharper. The only comparison that the FF was when pixel peeping the details on her hair--that aside there was virtually no difference. Despite the FF sensor being 4X the size--the photo was not 4X better--to me that is the key. I am so happy I could afford to buy--and carry 2 lenses that cover 24-200 mm--both f/2.8. This was a great video and I wish you success with your channel!
It looks like you had more fun with Olympus than Canon. Most of my friends that have a full frame system only bring it to special events. Whereas it's easy to go out with a M4/3 system in the pocket and shoot. My favorite combination is my old e-m1 mark 1 with Lumix 25mm 1.4 lens...
It's fun you say the Oly results look sharper as that's one thing I've noticed too how some of the results showing more fine detail with the Olympus than with the Sony even with the same DSLR lens adapted on both! I think we will do a video where we compare the two system but this time with the same lenses and will go into a bit of pixel-peeping :)
For some uses yes. I switched to ff because mft couldn't keep up with low light and artificial colors when shooting concerts/nightclubs. Sharpness wasn't part or the equation, i find all modern camera systems are too sharp and sometimes use vintage lenses and filters to offset this.
In the analog photography world, it made sense to get the larger format, the larger negative. But in digital photography, the disadvantages of the large format come into play: large, heavy, expensive. I also switched to Olympus a few months ago and I really enjoy taking photos again.
I've used an entry level APS-C camera for years which met my needs just fine but wanted to switch to a mirrorless system, I take a lot of pictures of small stuff, mostly toys so I end up shooting in apertures like f/8-f/12 most of the time so the thought of switching to a full frame system didn't make a lot of sense to me, I ended up getting the Olympus E-M1 MkII and I have to say, it's made photography so much more fun then my other camera. My last camera didn't have any kind of image stabilization, and it's autofocus was pretty bad. I grabbed the E-M1 with a 12-40mm f/2.8 pro and it's been such a world of difference. It's my first weather sealed camera too, so sometimes I'm like, "Oh, it's raining, maybe I'll go outside and take photo-stacked images of flowers with water droplets on them" and end up with really lovely images of flowers in the rain I never would have even thought to take before! They say the best camera you have is the camera you have with you and I've started bringing it everywhere, because it's just such a nice size, I'm looking for more photography options everywhere I go, it's just made photography such a joy. Plus I come back to the price, the E-M1 MkII is a pro camera I got with a pro zoom lens for under $1k USD and it's just hard to get the value and features for that price, if I had spent that much on a mirrorless body I think I would have gotten worse features in my camera, the Pro Capture feature has made me want to get into bird photography just because it seems like a lot of those small moments are easier to nail now.
Très bonne vidéo je suis passé sur l'Olympus OMD EM1 Mark III et franchement ce boîtier est incroyable, la qualité des optiques est impressionnante, en comparaison de mon Sony A7III l'Olympus OMD EM1 Mark III m'offre plus de possibilités, de plus le poids de l'équipement est beaucoup plus resonable, et c'est très appréciable lor des expéditions, la qualité des images est sublime, la possibilité de faire des photos à 50mp à main levée et 80mp sur trépied donne des possibilités encore plus vertigineuses.
Awesome video guys! Really a lot of thought and effort put in which we all appreciate for sure. I've been shooting with M43 gear since 2015 starting with the OMD EM5. As an avid long term traveller I've always appreciated the great size and weight of M43 bodies and lenses. Though I currently own 7 different M43 bodies I only very recently added a Sony A7 III to my arsenal out of curiosity. So in a way my history with cameras seems to be the complete opposite to you guys haha. I'll definitely check out your previous videos and certainly look forward to more M43 and FF content to come. Warm regards from Australia :)
Well I would highly recommend olympus. As a bird photographer (FROM A 4X4 WHEELCHAIR) you can not go past olympus. Their IBIS is incredible. I use a E-M1X with a 400mm lens hand held. I can totally rely on the IBIS to get the shot. That said there is not a perfect camera. Each system will have advantages and disadvantages. For me in a wheelchair the Olympus was the wise choice for size and stability. Love the video. Cheers from Australia.
Thanks to the sensor technology boom 7-8 years ago smaller sensors are delivering outstanding results and they can do in a small and light package :) Thanks for watching
So you have discovered the joy we in MFT land experience have at the quality we can get out of such small and light equipment. No camera system is perfect, each has advantages as well as limitations, and there are plenty of advantages to be enjoyed in MFT.
I am an early user of Olympus starting at the Pen Ft film camera for weddings in B&W processing the film by myself and printing by my self, I then graduated to OM4Ti and with a Metz 60CT was an unbeatable combination. I came to the digital scene late and started with OMD-EM5 which has a mouth watering array of lenses and now with the Pro series you donot need the large sensor to get the shot even enlarging to 8x10, check the OM System sample photos they enlarge to let you read small print.The auto focus with Olympus is good enough,to produce crisp shots. So it is a no brainer unless you cater for poster size prints mft is ample.
I always read about the legendary Zuiko lenses but never had one and now I am feeling how much I missed out :) MFT did definitely win our hearts and will be part of our gear collection.
There is a tendency to depend on technology to avoid common mistakes such as ability to hold the camera still during the shot, also the tracking function +auto focus toavoid need to compose and focus (previuosly using a split image or microprism)also the fact that it is easier to make lenses for a smaller sensor than one for a larger sensor needing involved 'correction', having used a 5mp camera as an introduction to the digital scene and having succesfully shot a wedding with good results, I am convinced that with care good photos should be possible .Stabilisation has its limits.
I love the M43 system. I have an EM1 Mark III with Pro lenes. I sell my work on-line and at galleries and have never had a buyer say "oh, I'm not buying your work because it wasn't shot with a FF camera"
exactly. what matters is the final image, not the gear. FF might help you to get there a little easier (bit more dynamic range, maybe better colours, slightly less noise at low light) but in the end I highly doubt that anyone could point out the difference between a FF or MFT photo up to like A1 prints. Would love to see your work, do you have instagram?
The Olympus 45mm/1.2 has the same Bokeh as a 90mm/2.4 which is enough in many cases. However current 85mm 1.2/1.4 can also be used wide open and deliver more Bokeh, however when getting too close many parts of a face can be rendered unsharp, which should be sharp. So I see the different composition of full-frame as an advantage, but I also saw many perfect portraits with the Olympus Pro lens. I nearly always use my Olympus camera when I do not know what to expect to take photos of. I only take my Canon R-6 when I exactly know what I want and have the lenses for (24-70, 24-105, 85mm, 70-200). Mainly for Art Photos, I see a difference (but that might only be me handling the R6). For documentaries, wildlife, and macro, Olympus does the better job for me.
Exactly how we feel. Olympus is great for almost everything, except for portraits where you want the shallowest depth of field possible. Even in low light I did not feel that the Full Frame would have a huge advantage, some yes, but nothing mind blowing. The one thing that I really love with the Olympus that I don't have to think twice on which lens to take, I just take all :D With Full Frame I always carefully choose what to take as it can get heavy pretty quickly, and then there is always a regret for not taking one of the lenses... :)
You don't always want the shallowest possible depth of field. For example with the 75mm at f/1.8 for a close-up portrait I can have the eyelashes in focus and the nose out of focus which is too shallow. There are some situations where a large format lens wide open can have an advantage, but for me the m43 75mm has more than enough DoF for portrait shots, and unlike some larger-format lenses it's very sharp wide open.
Good video, well done and thank you. I used to own Sony gear (A9 and A7R4) and marvellous though these cameras are, the weight of two bodies plus 200 - 600mm, 100 - 400mm GM, 90mm f2.8 macro and 24 - 70mm f2.8, was killing me. I decided to move back to Olympu/OMS and now own two OM1 bodies, a 300mm f4 Pro + MC14/MC20, a 12 - 100mm f4 Pro and will shortly receive a 90mm f3.5 macro Pro lens - trading in my 60mm f2.8 macro and 40 - 150mm f4 Pro lens. To be honest, I would not trade my Oly/OMS gear for anything else on the market - even if the weight of the system were not an issue. ProCapture with the OM1 is now 120fps and 50fps (with the right lenses) and at 50fps and lower, the camera tracks the subject.
I am an avid Sony shooter for the last 11 years, but since I got the Olympus OM-D EM-1 Mark II, I barely used the Sony. I just like the fact that I can take the whole Olympus set with me everywhere and don't have to worry about taking up too much space or weight... And the image quality is not much behind the Sony's. And yes, all the extra functions I can have with the Olympus is insane.
As a former Olympus Pro, I've spent a lot of time with their systems, and recently migrated my serious work to the Sony A7 IV. I did spend years shooting with a Ricoh GR and now a GR III. And I love the pocket rocket feel of that camera. Now... if only it had a pop up EVF like other cameras! I really enjoyed your video, and for me apart from the higher resolution of the Sony, it's the dynamic range that knocks me out. The ability to hold highlight and shadow details in post-processing is amazing at times. And with recent advances to AI Masking in Lightroom and Photoshop, that extra data is wonderful to work with. I do like the smaller size of the micro-43 system. I have a lot of original Four-Thirds glass, so found that when the EM1 shipped with on sensor phase and contrast detection AF, now all those old lenses are now usable. Still in low-light, the Ricoh and Sony have bested my Olympus gear, and since I'm a low light shooter....
@@holdmylenscap7241 Yes, that's one of the more amazing things about using them. I did a book project last year, where I used my Sony to do image capture, as opposed to scanning. I used to teach scanning workshops, but using a modern digital camera with a macro lens, to do the copy work was a revelation. Not only the resolution, but the dynamic range allowed me to pull down and hold details in the highlights, and the lack of noise in the shadows allowed me to pull up and use detail in the shadows. That project became a book of a German photographer friend's color transparencies from 1969-1974, unseen for over 50 years. I should note that I tried this with my Olympus EM-1 Mark I, and it wasn't even close. I still have my E-1 system with lenses! And my old original lenses for the E-1 work great with the 4/3 to Micro 4/3 adapter with the EM-1, since it finally had both phase and contrast detection AF, so all the older lenses designed for their DSLRs actually focus quickly, which hasn't happened till that series of cameras were introduced. I did a ton of comparison photos to write an article, but never finished the article! I should do something with the photos!
I have a trusty old Panasonic DMC-GX1, and the compact size and low weight was one of the main reasons why I went for MFT. The GX1 takes this to the extreme because it is pretty bare-bones with no viewfinder, a fixed display, and no in-body stabilisation. It looks like some weird unimportant attachment when mounted on a 100-300 telephoto lens, but even when comparing this combo to what is needed for a full-frame 600mm equivalent, nobody would believe it has the same reach. Until the advent of smartphone cameras decent enough for undemanding everyday shots, I've always had this camera fitted with a pancake lens in my backpack, and today I still don't have to think twice about taking it along when there might be a need for more than what the smartphone can deliver. I'm thinking of moving to an Olympus/OM System body to get both the missing viewfinder (which I really miss in some situations) and in-body stabilisation that works together with the lens stabilisation. It will be slightly larger and heavier, but still totally backpackable.
I have both systems and Panasonic M4/3 too. I like to use the smaller sensor system for macro and street photography, but I think it suffers in low light situations. I own a Sony a7iv + 200 - 600 combo for wildlife and a A7Rii for landscape and astrophotography. I just like to use the right tool for what I have in mind. That Oly 75mm is one of the sharpest lenses one can buy, by the way and is great for videoing owls at dusk.
MFT doesn't suffer in low light at all. With a fast prime and the combination of lense stab AND IBIS you can slow that shutter speed waaaaay down and still get nice clear shots.
@@rjakiel73 I track and photograph deer in woodland and any birds I come across. Slow shutter speeds are not an option at those times, if you want to avoid motion blur.
Have had Micro 4/3 for years. Love it. Was surprised at using the display instead of the EVF for photos in the video. I LOVE looking through the EVF, much better than using the display.
Hi! Lovely video. I'm somebody who went from APS-C Fuji down to m43. Pretty much been an APS-C shooter. Did some m43 back around 2013/2014, but ended up in Fuji after leaving Nikon. Good comparison in your video. My main love of Olympus is the 5-axis IBIS. So many shots I missed with my Fuji's (shooting primes) due to shake of these senior-citizen hands, lol. My only complaint: why do you darken the crops when you show the results? It's hard to see the details in the cropped image then. Other than that, fine work.
Hi John, I find Fuji to be the best APS-C system, their cameras are very well designed. The difference between APS-C and MFT is not as big as it is between FF and APS-C, so switching from Fuji to Olympus should not come with much sacrifice, yet you will enjoy the amazing tiny Olympus lenses :) The "crops" are darkened because we just use that as a background for the photo. In this video I didn't want to show pixel level details as I did not want to go into pixel peeping :) We will definitely come with more MFT content where we will show 1:1 details too.
One of the best features of Olympus cameras that no one ever talks about that it displays the image you just took for 0.3 of a second with the Olympus OMD E-M1ii and my Olympus OMD E-M5 displays the image for 0.5 second. You can change in the settings how long you want to display the image after taking it. This is a life saver feature for wedding photography. Sometimes you will forget to change a setting and you'll catch your mistake before it becomes a big issue. And you don't want to be in that boat telling the bride and groom you messed up. I've heard stories even about some of the biggest wedding photographers who are even ambassadors that have messed up really bad at a wedding. Don't know if other brands have this feature but if they set it up in your camera if your shooting anything you can redo and your butt is online. Its even a good feature for other things even if your butt is not online because if you can stop a mistake even redoing something is a pain.
I didn't even realise how good it is until I read your comment. I usually turn off the preview as it shows for too long, but .5 seconds is just what you need.
@@holdmylenscap7241 Its a great feature and it saved my butt a few times from messing up at weddings. I've heard horror stories of other photographers changing settings and forget to change them back after doing something. There is another safety net a Canon Ambassador Joe Buissink came up with back when everyone was shooting DSLR cameras. He only shoots in P Mode. A lot of people have no idea how P Mode really works. You can change aperture and shutter speed in P Mode by moving the dial this is called Program Shift. I believe Nikon might call it something else. It won't help if you go into manual and need to shoot flash but its a really good way of shooting with natural light. I was thinking of shooting like this with the Olympus OMD E-M1ii but the way the AEL button works is dif talferent then all the other brands that I know of. With Olympus when you hit the AEL button it locks it and you have to hit it the AEL button again to unlock it. With the other brands when thumb comes off the AEL button it unlocks what you locked. There are some good videos on TH-cam with Joe Buissink talking about shooting in P Mode just have a open mind it really makes sense.
I shot a video handheld of some Trumpeter Swans at 800mm FF equivelent on the GH6 earlier today that came out fantastic. I can't imagine being able to do that with a full frame setup as much as it would weigh.
At 10:18 in, what's the explanation for the grid pattern visible in the waterfall in the two Sony images? I ask because I encountered a similar grid pattern while doing some high resolution shots with my OM-1 recently.
That's caused by the movement of the water. The same as what you can see with the moving people, but as it's on a much smaller scale it creates this grid like pattern. This is one of the drawbacks of the multi-image high resolution mode, but Olympus seemed to handle it pretty well.
I have both these cameras; I bought the Olympus after I got the Sony for some of the features it has that no other company has (Panasonic is close, but not quite as loaded for photography). For hiking and the creative features I take the Olympus. If I needed low light and more dynamic range: Sony. But let’s talk about price. At launch a7r3 $3,200 pro lenses are usually around $1500 and up. Olympus $1800 at launch, pro lenses are around $800 to $1400 (a few are more). So you can imagine for the cost of getting going on Olympus is far less, and trust me when I say Olympus lenses are top notch. So if you need a professional camera for low light for work, go FF; but if you are having fun or are just a creator that wants lots of options, you’ll get more bang for your buck with the Olympus.
100% agree with you. The MFT system is really budget friendly, and where it lacks in size it makes up in features. I believe it is a perfect complementary system for a Full Frame, but even on it's own it is a very capable, affordable system on it's own.
You guys are so natural! Very pleasant content, liked and subscribed. Nikon FX + Om shooter here, the former since a long time, OM recently. In some situations FX sensor still makes the difference, but honestly they are quite rare. As you said, the computational options of the OM-1 make it very effective in almost every kind of scenery. Using this little gem gives me tons of pleasure, and Pro lenses are built up to the highest standards. Top value for money. I still use my D850, and D700 too now and then, when I stay around and move by car. For all the rest I pick the OM-1.
So natural. Yes. From the first few minutes I was immersed in this couple as much as the gear. Just like watching a couple do what they like to do and bringing us along. 💁🏻♀️ Olympus E-PL 7
A very fair comparison, pointing out where which system has its strengths. The OM-1 might've faired a bit better, as it now has a stacked BSI sensor (and some advanced computational features). BTW, the tripod high-res example from the Olympus looks somewhat wrong to me, far worse than I would've expected (I've used it with my Pen F on some occasions outdoors, and it gave much better detail resolution; I also use it for scanning 4x5 film negatives, and I also get very high resolution details).
I was expecting a bit better results as well from the tripod hi-res. I've the feeling that no matter how much I tried to shield the camera from wind (and was waiting for some quiet moments) there could've been some shake involved. Overall it was quite a good performance, but I think the Sony did better there, probably as the images are not stitched in the camera so there is more computational power available. I wish Olympus would give us the option to have all the separate files and then do the stitching on a computer. I'd love to test the OM-1 too, but as of now we could only borrow the E-M1.3 :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 I think you are right regarding camera shake. The hand-held high-res shot was much better, and this mode *is* made to compensate for camera movement … ;-)
Tips like this at 24:26 are going to make an IMMEASURABLY greater effect on the quality of a photographer's output. Nonetheless the full frame images looked nicer to me across the board here, it just comes down to whether it's enough to make you want to carry the extra weight. I have a little Panasonic G80 which I use as a compact camera when I don't necessarily want to drag a full frame DSLR, but if I am feeling ambitious with what I'm shooting I will generally grab the larger camera. The DSLR does have certain handling advantages as well
I agree on both :) The camera is just a tool, but the key is how well it's used! The extra bulk of the Full frame cameras (and more, the lenses) does bring better results, but I believe 19 out of 20 times the difference is going to be so little that it's debatable if it's worth to carry it around. I do believe that everyone should have a small M43 setup for the joy of photography everywhere, any time :)
Interesting comparison. I split the difference between the M4/3rd and FF and use APS-C. Lenses are small, less expensive and plenty sharp. Will also add that we're starting to get more compact primes for Sony FF that are also very nice. So size and weight start to get closer to M4/3rd combos.
@@holdmylenscap7241 I guess I have to try MFT again, had a few Panasonic cameras and highlights clipped way too often. Also didn’t like the noise above ISO 3200. But agree, the tiny lenses are very appealing. And the OM-1 clicks a lot of boxes for features that are important to me.
Definitely! Especially with the second hand prices are so low, it's really a budget friendly system. One of my favourite lenses now is the M.Zuiko 45mm f1.8 which goes around £100. I can't believe how cheap that lens is compared to what it's capable of. Or the 60mm macro, or the 17mm f1.8, or the Laowa 7.5mm... My only concern about MFT is I'll be tempted to get some of the lenses because they are so cheap (and good quality) that I might end up hoarding MFT lenses :D
Great channel and topic discussion. As a M4/3 user (Olympus E-M5 Mark ii) and shooting mainly landscape images, I always had it in the back of my mind that full-frame offered MUCH better IQ. What stood out for me in your video was that when reviewing your landscape images individually, both the FF and M4/3 images looked great. It is only when comparing them side-by-side that the better IQ of the FF system becomes apparent. In reality though, nobody does that. I think that the M4/3 can hold its own.
I agree. Even when comparing them side by side you really have to zoom in 100% to see the difference and if you apply a bit of sharpening in post process on the Olympus it will be even harder to see the differences. What really surprised me is how small the difference in low light situations between the two. I expected the FF to wipe the floor with the Oly there, but in the end the Olympus was keeping up pretty well. Where I noticed some difference is editing. The FF files were a tad easier to edit, I felt like I have more room to play with, especially in the highlights.
I love my Olympus E-M1 Mk3. I was a full-frame shooter for a long time. I do have a full-frame camera for the low-light situations where I need that extra ISO but with DXO Pure RAW the MFT files look amazing even at high ISO. May sell the full-frame and get a second MFT body for backup. I also love MPB and they are my first stop when looking for new camera gear.
I was always keeping an eye on the MFT but somehow I was afraid that the smaller sensor will be limiting. I am really glad that Professional Photo magazine and MPB gave us the chance to try the MFT gear as it really changed my perspective on many things.
Always, love Sony but their is something special about shooting with the M43 system, especially Olympus (well the OM System now) its Magical...👌 Great content giving both system its benefits and it's flaws...👍
...I think the main point of the 1.2 on the 45mm olympus is precisely to get more separation, so it would have been nice to see it used to its fullest potential. Still, nice video!
Yes I agree, unfortunately on this occasion we only noticed it was at f1.8 when reviewed the pictures at home :D We did some comparison wide open as well on a separate shoot (for the magazine article) But keep in mind it was the first time Alyssa using that camera :D
Panasonic G9 is probably the best and most enjoyable CV camera I've ever owned. MFT is a major competitor in today's market. I think FF only has a low light advantage. That's about it.
Nicely done; in addition to some great photo I truly enjoyed the banter and the T shirts! Nice to see an example of how you can do great work with both MFT and FF; dependent on your needs at the time!
Thanks for watching! :D We really e enjoyed the opportunity to compare the two systems and our experience with the MFT was very surprising for us too :) Hope our T-Shirts are not too geeky :P (but we are kind of a geek anyway :P)
Has anyone in the UK ever had the chance to try Starry AF? FYI: on the other side of the clouds there's a big yellow sun during the day and, at night, distant stars that look like little points of light. You will love the 60 macro if you are careful to use the focus limiter switch as designed. Because of the vast amount of lens movement required for the 0.19m -> inf. range , it can hunt like a Neanderthal.
The 60 macro is one of the best lenses I've ever used. It's well designed and the IQ is phenomenal. Can't wait for the 90mm macro coming out with 2:1 repro, hope it'll be priced similarly :)
Good stuff, I shoot Nikon D4s, and the D500 with 500PF, and 300PF for wildlife and birds in flight, I also shoot dual EM1Xs with 300 pro, and 40-150 pro, the photos I make are pretty much the same, of course the D4s can shoot at midnight, but that is another story. I also shoot landscape with the Nikon 24-120 f4, and the Olympus 12-100 f4, again, pretty much the same.I enjoy both systems, it's up the the photographer to make this stuff actually work! Cheers!
Great review! I switched from FF to MFT in 2024, bought a Pana G9 - a brilliant camera for a little more then 500 USD. Gradually I sold all my FF system as I realized that it does not give real vesible improvement... I was mesmerized by top quality zooms mft has. Oly 12-100/4, OM 8-25/4, Panasonic 100-300 II (it replaced my Sigma 100-400)... Using my current mft setup is pure joy!
Thank you for the comparison. I'm shooting Olympus and have a few points to highlight. To get the same look when comparing FF and M43, I need to not only double the size of focal lengths but also the aperture. You could see it when comparing Oly 45mm f1.2 PRO with Samyang AF 85mm f1.4 when shooting at f1.8. In this case, Oly shot as f1.8 is equivalent of f3.6 at FF. It would be much more comparable to shoot Oly at the lowest f1.2 (2.4 at FF) with Samyang f1.8 or higher. Oly 75mm f1.8 even though it's not a PRO version is an excellent lens for portraits for the fragment of the price, perfect for starting photographers. Oly 17mm F1.8 is amazing for street photography.
True, when it comes to depth of field the equivalency applies not only to the focal length but the aperture too. But when it comes to exposure then the aperture remains the same and when it comes to let's say image stabilisation then the focal length is unchanged, hence one of the reasons why MFT is much easier to shoot hand held, the other reason is the absolutely amazing image stabilization of Olympus :) The Olympus 45mm f1.2 was shot at f1.8 because I wanted to get the Olympus 45mm f1.8 (which I got and love since then) and wanted to see how is the rendering gonna be, so I shot a few images with that setting before handed the camera to Alyssa. And as it was the very first time for her to use the camera she did not notice that the camera is left on f1.8, but we did a f1.2 vs f1.8 test later, but we did not film that part :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 Makes sense =) Im always on the hunt to see the lense comparison videos between Olympus vs. Sony, Canon etc. Especially when it comes to dynamic range, DOF and the final look when wide open to see if it makes any sense to switch to Sony or not. So far Im pretty happy with my Oly setup. I have 7-14mm PRO (for real estate) , 17mm PRO, 25mm PRO and 12-40mm PRO lenses (product shots), thinking about 45mm PRO, then 14-42mm pencake (great for casual traveling, but be careful, the electronic zoom stopped working, I googled that it had something to do with the "flex cable" or something like this, estimate fix cca 200eur which in my case is not worth spending), then 17mm f1.8 (great for photos, not suitable for video, here again, when using continuous focus when filming, the camera records annoying "clicking" sounds on all my 3 Oly cameras, otherwise I love the metal lens cover, 25mm f1.8 - not worthy, I found chrimatic abb too much prominent to my liking, 45mm f1.8 excellent detail shots and portrait lens, great for video too and so small !!!!, 75mm f1.8 amazing portait, amazing glass, and finally 60mm Macro f2.8 - amazing for product shots, portraits (yes it does wonder) and of course teeny tiny macro world. if the focus is getting too slow, try switching the limiter to your desire distance.
If you enjoy the MFT then there is absolutely no point going for Sony or any other Full Frame system. There are barely any situations where we really need the full frame setup. We use it mostly only for portraits with shallow depth of field or where good tracking is essential, but I shoot with my little Olympus about 10-15 times more than I pick up my Sony A7R3. We have used the 17mm f1.8 for video and I found it really great, but we are using external microphones so focusing noise is not an issue :) I am fairly happy with my setup right now, but I'd love to add a 12mm and a 25mm and the Zuiko 100-400 for wildlife. And also the 75mm f1.8 simply because it's a sexy beast and it was such a joy to use it :)
About voigtlander noktons for mft, guys i am in love with these lens. Yes they are heavy, they are not everyday lens. But they are best lenses for filming i have ever tested.
Only 16 minutes in, but this is the best comparison ever. I have searched A LOT on the m43 vs full frame differences but have not seen anything particularly useful. Thanks.
I have the OM-1 MK II and the Sony A7RV, both good for very different purposes. The OM-1 MK II is more comparable to the Sony A9III as a sports camera rather than the A7RV. By the way, the crop factor must be considered when taking pictures to achieve an identical frame. For example, an MFT at f/1.8 and ISO 200 would need to be adjusted to f/3.6 and ISO 800 on a full-frame sensor to maintain equivalent framing, depth of field, bokeh and noise characteristics. PS: Sony finally got focus bracketing in the A7RV, at long last, but it's still easier with the OM-1 due to its size. The 60mm 2.8 is so much smaller than my Tamron 90mm 2.8 on full-frame.
I was thinking about renting, but then I am not sure if I could handle the heartbreak when I have to send it back :D The temptation to get one is already HUGE, so I've got a feeling if I had my hands on one I would get in some financial troubles LOL
Thank you, really liked listening to your thoughts. I’m currently trying out MFT (from Fuji) and so far very impressed. Your comments on the Oly system are perfectly timed. Salutations!
For the same picture look (depth of field) of e.g. a full frame 24-70mm F2.8 you would need a 12-35mm F1.4 which is not available at MFT. True for (nearly) all wide open lenses with aperture smaller than F2.8. So you are comparing different apples.
That's true. the Depth Of Field is definitely the biggest advantage of Full Frame. But the purpose of this video was to compare usage and feel, and see how big the difference is between the two systems. For portraits with narrow DOF full frame is unmatched, but for everything else the MFT was closely just as good, which honestly was a big surprise for me as I was very biased against MFT.
Your mind was blown so many times! 😅 Been using 17/1.8 and 45/1.8 for years. No need for FF. 12-40 is also a great all around kit lens. Also, you should try using touch to focus+capture, the Olympus auto focus is so fast that you won't miss a thing. Good for chasing kids in action. 😁
and since then my EM-1.2 kept blowing my mind so many times :D I only used my Sony in the last month because I was feeling bad about not using it :D The 45mm f1.8 is one of the best lenses I've ever used and it is such a joy to use that lens, but when it comes to paperthin DOF for portraits nothing beats the Samyang 135mm f1.8 on a Full Frame camera :)
Thanks for showing that, except in rare cases, (sensor) size truly does not matter!!! Great photographers get great results with any gear, but MFT has so many advantages over larger-sensor systems that IMO, the small difference in DR is simply not worth the extra size/weight/expense of "FF" or APS-C (MF as well). I've produced exceptional large prints from smaller sensor cameras (including 1" and even pocket point-and-shoots and phones, but those do have their limitations). I've used (and luckily can afford) many different types of cameras and my "go to" system is the Lumix G9 (I prefer Lumix ergo to Oly, but that's obviously a personal choice--they both make great cameras and I do have an Oly camera as well). Pixel peeping is a pointless pursuit! I've never had anyone comment about any of my photos having IQ issues--only photographers care about that stuff (and they don't buy prints). Re noise, that's no longer an issue thanks to NR such as DxO's DeepPRIME and Topaz DeNoise. As far as subject separation/DoF is concerned, you can get the results you want merely by altering aperture, FL, or distance-to-subject, and I'll take MFT's greater flexibility any day--very rarely do I try to get (or have trouble getting) shallow DoF. Of course, you can also blur backgrounds in post if that's the look you want. I also have that Oly 60mm macro and it's great lens (my other MFT lenses include a Leica 8-18, Mitakon 25 f/0.95, Lumix G-X 35-100 f/2.8, Leica 100-400, and others, all of which of course have double the effective FL). Those fit into a small pack that weighs about 5kg/11 lb. Comparing camera gear is like comparing audio gear--if you're more concerned about the "quality" of the reproduction than you are the artistic content, then you're missing the point. If people were logical and wanted a very capable full-range system (in my case, 16-800mm EFL) that they could easily carry just about anywhere, then MFT is the obvious choice.
I believe MFT will have it's second renaissance now as sensors IMHO reached their peak S/N ratio, so the difference between FF and MFT will be even smaller than before. In my opinion MFT is a much better companion to a FF system than an APS-C one, and apart from portrait shooters who need the thin DOF, most photographers would not be limited by the MFT in their creative process. I find Olympus to be the sexier system with their beautiful Zuiko lenses, but Panasonic also released some pretty amazing gear. Now if Olympus would join the L-Mount alliance.... :D
@@holdmylenscap7241 I certainly hope so--MFT's the most popular format in Japan, after all. I'm ambivalent about how it would affect things if SoNiCanon or others joined the MFT fray, but generally speaking, more competition = better products (and prices). I just find Oly (and Sony) bodies a bit small and love the G9's massive grip (even better with a battery grip) and menu system, but M. Zuiko lenses are great (and Leica's legendary). That's another huge MFT advantage--lenses ecosystem compatibility--it's just too bad that you can't get dual IS without native lenses. The thing is, Robin Wong did a YouYube on high-ISO MFT (th-cam.com/video/niBpqJmT0Fw/w-d-xo.html) and he got amazing results even at 12,800 with the Lumix 12-32 pancake kit zoom (which I have but rarely use--for one thing, it's not weatherproof), so maybe we're wasting our money on "premium" lenses when the results aren't that different...
Great video, I've been using a M 4/3 Little Olympus OMD EM10 MK2 for a few years, love it with vintage 50mm Minolta and Zuiko lenses, OMD EM1 MK2/MK3 or the G9 are next on my wish list. Also use a Nikon D7200 which I love but as a walk about the Olympus is just so usable
Same for me, when I go out I won't hesitate for a second which system to take, the little Olympus or the Sony. Oh I just remembered I have to dust off the Sony... it's been a while :P
I have an epl7 which is comparable to the em10 ,but i find when using vintage OM zuiko lenses the pictures are not as sharp. Could i be doing something wrong or is it the lens ?
@@patrickhin4301 depends on the lens, I'd always opt for the primes especially the 50mm, I've got images printed 80cm x 90cm taken with an old Zuiko 50mm and it's really sharp even at that size. Maybe try setting the aperture to F4, as fast as you can shoot without pushing iso too high too just to help eliminate any shake, also if you have to use the sharpening options in lightroom or similar and I always find upping the black levels helps too
@@74leogambo Yes i noticed that using f4 i get sharper image, correct me if i am wrong ,so does it mean its like f8 on mft? I have not tried it on a full frame sensor maybe it will perform better . I had my 50mm since 1972 together with my om1. I was a student then and hardly used it. It looks such a pretty lens, i am old now and trying to relive the past! Thank you very much for your reply
@@patrickhin4301 the fstop multiplication of m43 confuses me as yes in theory it doubles but f4 still seems to have the bokeh of f4 so I'm really unsure 🤔, I think those old 50mm lenses are absolutely beautifully made, and you relive your youth if photography can do that well that's a beautiful thing
Long time serious Olympus shooter. Been shooting since the original EM5 I bought in 2013. I owned the EM1.2 and EM 1X. Main lenses 300mm F4, 40-150 F2.8 and 12-40 F2.8. I also shot the 75mm f1.8 and loved my little 17mm 1.8. I just sold all of it except the PenF. Now a Nikon D850 wildlife shooter. Love these files. The high iso and the ability to pull detail out of a bad exposure is in another league. Plus low light AF is stupid good.
When it comes to low light, the Full Frame shows that it's a different league, but the small Olympus has nothing to be ashamed of! I was really surprised to see how it performed in low light, so I can't wait to have a chance to test an OM-1 with it's BSI sensor
@@TL-xw6fh That's the truth, people really need to see what can be achieved at ISO 16000 even on RAW files from an older body like the EM10ii. Even my Sony A77ii looks great at ISO 12800. Software is an important part of the process.
I just picked up a Olympus EM-1 Mark ii. I was always one of those full frame snobs, and owned about 5 of them but I'm going go start using this Olympus with a 45mm 1.8 or 75 1.8 for my upcoming shoots. Really looking forward to it! Its intended to be a second body to support my full frame but I'm sure it can eve be my main body in some occasions.
Ive been using Olympus for years and I love them. I had not realized (because i had been told otherwise in the past) that the f-stop on the m43 does not change with the crop factor. So that is very interesting to know!
There is a lot of confusion around the crop factor and how it affects depth of field, aperture or focal length, so I am planning to create a video about it later :) But just think about it, if you create a photo with a full frame camera and then crop the image to M43 size the image will not change at all, the Depth of Field and the exposure will be the same, the only thing will change is the composition. This is exactly the same if you have a hardware crop like a smaller sensor size.
@@holdmylenscap7241 Surely a lot of confusion for many arises from the lazy habit of describing the 'focal ratio' just as aperture to avoid the effort of two words as is the norm nowadays. The term a fixed aperture lens is complete nonsense as every zoom lens increases in maximum aperture to some degree with focal length. It would be horrendously slow at the long end if it did not. It is the focal ratio that is staying constant with focal length not aperture. Presumably I will be called out as pedantic and petty here I am sure but it must be confusing for people entering in to photography, when they have to realise that the term aperture is not the actual real dimension of the lens aperture but the dimensionless ratio of focal length to aperture. The f stop or focal ratio for a lens does not change with sensor size, which is the whole point of it which is clear to anyone who has used a light meter, as you can ignore the sensor size as the ratioing of the light gathered over the field of view for the crop is handled in one fell swoop leaving only shutter speed and ISO as variables.
For me it is very clear that it has many more advantages in the m4/3 sensor and if it is only about bokeh, the software now can add much more bokeh and it is a much cheaper system than full frame and the quality is still there, the em1 mark ii is a gem for the price and the quality it offers even today
At the moment I'm using Em1-mk3 for everything (paid or otherwise) with primes, and want to get the Z6II for lower ligh situations eventually. But since I do macro in my own time as well, I would only use olympus for that for their smaller macro lens and stabilization combination. Having started out with Sony, I eventually moved to seeing camera just as tools to get specific jobs done. The only thing that's a must for me is more than good weather sealing for what I'm paying to even get the nessisary kit lol.
Despite what most people say micro 4/3 isn't a "cropped" system. APS-C is a crop of 35mm lens mounting system, so it is logical to call it a cropped sensor as the sensor doesn't use all the glass available from the lens. But for micro 4/3 the lens is designed for this sensor size, so it's somehow "full frame" too. I think it's a huge marketing mistake from Olympus and Panasonic to have called the system micro 4/3 because it emphasizes the smaller size of the sensor which isn't a problem at all as the lens system is really rich and capable.
Yeah the "micro" does not helps, but I think the reason is because it's still a FourThirds system, so it has the smaller sensor, but because of the lack of mirror they could make the lenses even smaller. So FourThirds was a small system and MFT is a micro system :) Personally I find Sony's APS-C line pointless as it is now. Fuji's APS-C line is great :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 why do you think Sony Aps c is useless? They have the best autofocus, no video record limits, good sensor performance (detail/lowlight), and more lenses than Canon + Nikon (including good lenses from sigma and tamron).
The telephoto lenses are where m4/3's really shines in terms of price, size, and weight. I have a Panasonic 45-175mm f/4-5.6 that is razor sharp -- that's a 90-350mm equivalent FOV -- it weighs 7.4 oz and is 3.5 in. long at full zoom!
@@holdmylenscap7241 Sorry for the slow response -- I just saw your question. I have not tried either teleconverter with my 100-400mm -- I don't own either one. The reason being that I am primarily a JPEG shooter, and have found that I get amazing quality images using the built-in DTC (Digital Teleconverter). That function does a 2X crop to the center of the frame (the sharpest area) and resamples the file to a full size file in-camera. I have done extensive tests using the DTC and cropping after-the-fact in post processing and can see no discernible difference. For RAW shooters, you can easily shoot RAW + JPEG and get a RAW full frame image file and the corresponding cropped JPEG file -- I simply skip the RAW file capture. That said, I have reprogrammed the video button on my Olympus E-M1X to toggle the DTC Function 'On' and 'Off'. When shooting birds for example, if I need a closer FOV, I simply press a button and my 100-400mm becomes a 200-800mm FOV (400-1600mm FF FOV)-- without giving up any lens speed. I have a number of exhibition prints hanging on my studio walls that were done using the DTC. Wish I could post a sample here.
I shoot for the subject, not the background so bokeh isn't too important in my shooting (more wildlife and nature) ......... presently the OM-1 is faster and much more accurate in Pro Cap - and I only shoot at 25 fps which is usually adequate even for wildlife ........ Seeing the end of the vid where you showed the EM-1 MK II that you purchased and mentioned the loose rubber grip, I will mention that mine did the same thing about a yr or two after picking mine up brand new, I did return it to Olympus for service, once I picked up my EM-1 Mark III. For $100 Cdn, they replaced the right side grip, the rear thumb grip, replaced a couple of worn buttons and calibrated the camera. Job done and now I have a great backup. Problem is, the OM-1 was released and I picked that one up too ! Right after picking up my 150-400 f/4.5 .... Oh the decisions to make when I head out shooting ......... at least I have the full suite of Pro Zooms, so I can have three bodies with me - now I'm back to the problem of too much gear ..... for wildlife though, the 300 f/4 is not flexible since it's a prime, but it is almost my fav lens on any of the bodies - I keep them all and have good backup at any point ... Refreshing objective views on your video here, but I hear it all the time from a good friend Sony shooter all the time, especially when I use Pro Cap and he tries to grab the same shot ..... when he curses me, I know it's just a little frustration about Sony not having that feature available, after all the years of my Olympus use ......
the 150-400 is a dream lens for me :) but I think I will settle with the 100-400 as it fits my budget more, can't wait to try that with ProCapture :) I enjoy shooting with the Sony too, but when I can get nearly as good images with the E-M1.2 as with the A7R3 or A7.4 then it makes me think twice to grab the heavy gear instead of the lightweight Olympus :)
shot with Canon full frameandcrop cameras since 2005just got an olympus OMD-EM1X as step into mirrorles thinking if i have to change lens to stay with Canon I may aswell try different brand.Sold the crop sensor bodies andacouple oflenses to cover cost of camea and 100-400 lens,So far liking the camera controls set up and ability to change controls to suit needs, compared to canon menu system.
I have both of these cameras and you cannot compare them by using the same shutter speed or aperture, because they are so different in use, but at the same time they are equally good quality and you just have to learn to use them differently. Have had all brands and formats where I started in 2003 with a Minolta, later I bought my first Olympus which is (because I still have it and use it) Olympus E3, after that I bought a Canon, then it was Nikon, and my next one after that was a Sony A7, before I bought the Olympus OM-D E M5 MII for street use, but I felt there was something missing with the E5 Mark II. Decided to buy the OM-D E M1 Mark III because it has extras that the E M5 Mark II does not have, at the same time I feel that the E M5 MII is a small and brilliant device because it does not look so fancy but more like an older camera and I love the little tough paw.
Of course we can compare them :) You can compare apples to oranges too if you want! :D J/K! But you are 100% right. You just have to know your gear and learn to use it. If someone can't take a great photo with any gear... ;)
Right? :D I would take my EM1.2 for a hike or street anytime over the Sony. But for portraits, where DOF matters, we need the Sony and the fast Samyang primes :)
Awesome! Thank you! The channel name was coming from one of our video where it was just a little joke on the spot but we liked it so much we changed the channel name to it :) th-cam.com/video/O651uqFyJmI/w-d-xo.html
The purpose of this video was not to 100% recreate the same with MFT as we have with FF and we told this straight in the beginning. We had two similar setup when it comes to equivalent focal length, but the point of trying the MFT was to see how a small system will stand up against the big and heavy setup. We had the 85mm f1.2 (even though we asked for the 85mm f1.8 originally), which was big and heavy in MFT standards, but have a look at the 35mm f1.4 vs 17mm f1.8, one is a big chunky glass and the other one is a pocketable beauty. :)
Great, thorough video; thankyou. As a casual, amateur photographer the benefits of the Olympus and M4/3 system generally is obviously the size but all the cost of the bodies and lenses. I love the results they give for the layout. My used Em-1 mkii from MPB is killer as a travel system. One small bag gets the body and several lenses in. All that goes in my hand luggage taking up barely any room. Another thing i found was the weather sealing is great. Whilst in Florida this Summer and going from 35 degrees plus outside then to intense aircon inside could cause issues for cameras. The Olympus handled it all with ease!
I heard the weather sealing on Olympus is great, but luckily did not had to test it :) The small size of the Olympus gear is really a huge bonus, I could have several lenses with me and take as much space as one lens with my Sony :) Love it so much
And what about the Nokton 60mm 0.95 MFT ? I had already used the Nokton 42.5mm and the Olympus 75mm, but this exceeded my expectations! The colors, the bokeh, the quality of the sharpness at 0.95 (soft and poetic) and 2 ! Bokeh wasn't as good at 0.95 on the Nokton 42.5... At the moment, the weather is grey in France and when I pick up my children from school, it is already almost dark. But with the Nokton 60mm, 0.95, I was able to make beautiful portraits. And the 17mm 1.2 and the 45mm 1.2, the Summilux 12mm 1.4 and the new Summilux 9mm 1.7...
The Nokton sounds like an amazing lens, but for me it defeats one of the main joys of MFT, the small and light camera. But I would definitely love to try it one day ;)
@@holdmylenscap7241 No one dares to buy it! I don't know why... It's a shame. With the MFT, you can travel light but also take advantage of superb slightly larger lenses (but not as much as in Full Frame!). Double advantage!
I ordered the m.zuiko 40-150mm f2.8 from MPB and I couldn't be happier! I too have a Canon 6D that I am using less and less due to using the EM5II. The Olympus is my go travel and hobby camera, while my Canon has been regulated to studio work.
This is probably the most useful comparison between formats I've seen, thanks. I got a little Lumix GF7 and pancake zoom from MPBa while back as a cheaper replacement for my premium compact camera and I've been so impressed with it I'm considering replacing my Sony A6000 system with a newer M43's body. Having rheumatoid arthritis the lure of even smaller, lighter lenses is extremely tempting, and the capability of these cameras is amazing.
I am pretty sure that one of the newer MFT bodies will easily compete with the A6K on image quality and will surpass it by far in features, so I believe that change would bring a lot of improvement for your joy of photography
@@holdmylenscap7241 Thanks! In the end I went for a 2nd hand Lumix GX80 as a day-to-day camera, but I'm holding onto my Sony and prime lenses for portraits for now. I'll make a more informed decision about whether or not to switch completely further down the line.
I use Canon full-frame RF and Olympus m43rds. For most shooting situations, I prefer to use my Olympus kit. It's just more fun and less hassle for me, and so the images I get are generally more to my liking. That said, there are times when I will elect to use the Canon as well. I enjoyed your video. It was an excellent comparison of the two systems. With practice and familiarity, you will probably find that you can get essentially identical results from both systems. All that said, I actually prefer the Sony colours in your video. This is something that I've found in the past as well. Many people will highlight Olympus and Canon for their colour fidelity, but I often find myself preferring Sony colours. No big deal, of course, since shooting raw means that nothing is baked in and you can tweak colours to your hearts content in post. It's just an observation that I have made on a number of occasions.
@@molecula2215 Who said results aren't important? I didn't. I have been shooting on many different formats from cell phones to medium format for a very long time. m4/3rds is capable of giving me every bit as good results as any other system. You can believe all the hype, or you can work to your strengths and to the strengths of the gear you have in hand. There are times when even a tiny cell phone sensor will outperform a full frame sensor. You just need to understand when, where, and how to use it to best advantage. m43rds and 35mm formats are very very similar in what they have to offer, and in what they can do. Anyway, it doesn't matter because I get great images from m43rds, and from full-frame. Whether people believe that of not is largely irrelevant.
Great video! Long time Olympus e-m1.2 user as well as Sony. I mainly use the Olympus for sports and personally photography and sometimes street. It’s a fantastic camera.
OM-1 has many nice features that the Sony a7r3 does not have, but the main statement that the MFT system is so much smaller and lighter is really no fair. If you take the lenses with twice the f number for FF comparing to MFT, the difference in size and weight will become negligible. Yes, this will force you to use 4 times higher ISO for the same shutter speed for FF, but this will give roughly equivalent image quality because there is about 2 stops difference in dynamic range and noise between FF and MFT. Also, the depth of field will be equivalent. So in FF system we still have the option to use relatively slow lenses and hike small and light, but we could also use faster lenses and get much better low light performance and subject isolation than in MFT system.
You are absolutely right, but... :) There are many options on MFT that would be just waaaay too big on FF (like the Olympus 100-400 vs Sony's 200-600, which we are planning to "compare" or the Laowa 7.5mm vs any 14-15mm on FF). But actually you are absolutely right, if you want a light setup with FF cameras you have some options too. The purpose of the video was to show that the MFT system is a very viable and capable option, but it does not mean that "FF is dead!" ;)
Just come across your channel. As you may gather by my name I’m totally sold into MFT after years of shooting FF as a pro. I enjoyed your comparison and I’m not at all surprised by your findings. I’ve covered a load of MFT kit on my channel and still am amazed at the results I get. I shall be looking at more of your videos as I enjoyed this one. Brian “that Micro 4/3 Guy” James
Hi Brian, I am a long time subscriber of your channel and I'll be honest, your channel was one of the driving force that pushed me towards giving MFT, and especially Olympus a chance :) So I am really honoured to see you here :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 I’m equally honoured that you watch my channel and that I’m now a subscriber of yours. I sat and watched the whole video which says a lot. Well done on great content. If there’s anything I can help with in the future don’t be afraid to get in touch. Email address in any of my video descriptions. Brian
Congratulations team, beautiful video and very happy vibes 😊Olympus 75mm is one of the best lenses in digital era . Olympus was nuts not joining L mount . Olympus glass is up there with Leica,Hasselblad and Canon RF .
I hope OM-Systems won't join the L-Mount alliance because then I would be extremely tempted to sell all Sony gear and go OM-S :D Which means we will have to convince Samyang to join the L-Mount Alliance as Alyssa is their ambassador :) Jokes aside, if OM-Systems joins the L-Mount and brings the OM-D technology to Full Frame I would be in trouble for sure :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 interesting. I have said for years that Olympus would not even consider a larger format as it would go against the ethos started in the 60s & 70s with the Pen and OM1 film cameras for ultra compact cameras. However, Olympus, as a domestic camera manufacturer, are no more and it’s legacy is under new management and new direction with OMDS. So could they join into the larger Full Frame format? And if so with which mount?
It is so nice to see more fair reviews of the micro 4/3 system! It looks like you both had fun during testing. Thank you both for an honest and fair review!
Great comparison. Personally, I shoot with the Olympus OM-D E-M5 III when I travel and love it. Regarding bokeh, my understanding is that equivalency depends not only on focal length, but also aperture. At the same f-stop, the bokeh on the FF would be much better. To achieve equivalency, you would have to set the f-stop on the M43 camera to half that of the FF camera, something not always possible. That would also mean changing the ISO on the FF camera to 4x that of the M43 camera. With all that, you would achieve identical photographs, revealing the differences in sensor technology (e.g., BSI), lens characteristics, etc.
I shoot with both a Fujifilm Xpro 2 and an Em5 ii. I actually downgraded from the Em1 ii because of the more compact size. I love both systems but each is better in different scenarios; I use the Fujifilm for street photography with a 23mm 2.0, 12mm 2.8 and a 50mm 2.0. While I use the Olympus for travel with both the 40-150 2.8 plus 1.4 teleconverter and the 12-40 2.8. I also carry the 25mm 1.8 when I want to be less conspicuous. I love how compact the Olympus zooms are, so that’s why I haven’t switched over completely to Fujifilm. Great episode. Thanks.
Fujifilm is the sexiest system out there :) I think they did it very well, having two completely different line up. The smaller APS-C and the "Pro-er than Full Frame" GFX line :) Also Panasonic with Full frame and MFT are a good combo. I think Sony should abandon the APS-C as right now it's really just a third leg.
Hi, nice video. It would have been nice to see the AF performance. How quickly both cameras can focus between a person and when you suddenly hold a product in front of the camera.
The Sony will wipe the floor with the Olympus. The generational difference between the two cameras is quite big, it would be fair-ish to compare the OM-1 with the A7RIII for that but not the EM1.3, for a fair comparison it should be the A7II for the EM1 series. But the Olympus is not bad when it comes to single focus, but when it comes to tracking it is losing the subject fairly easily. Focusing speed is good and that's more lens dependent, and the accuracy seemed good too.
@@holdmylenscap7241 Not in those situations. Portraits of very cooperative models and landscapes of generally cooperative rock formations are far from demanding of any AF system. I do wish you had slowed your shutter speeds with the E-M1 III (IDK Sony) a couple stops for the model shots. IBIS is amazing. Great video BTW!
Well, keep in mind this was our first shoots with the Olympus system, so we used it with Full Frame habits :D But I love to push any equipment to it's limits so I'll surely make the little Olympus sweat in the future! :P
This is my first time viewing your channel. I think that you produced an excellent, and very informative video presentation. I cannot wait to see more of your content. 😊
I sold all my Sony gear as well and bought Olympus I don't think I'll ever go back also as far as noise in your photos topaz will magic remove the noise from your photograph it does an awesome job
True. Topaz DeNoise or Luminar's Noiseless AI is incredible when it comes to noise reduction. Also I don't think the difference between the Sony and Olympus files on high ISO are so much different. I honestly expected to have bigger difference, not just because the sensor size but because the FSI vs BSI sensor. I think the only time I've noticeable difference is the dynamic range. On Full Frame I can bring back a bit more from the highlights, but again the difference is marginal.
You are both incredibly likeable. I really enjoyed your video and little bit of banter. I have various systems but on my trip back to the UK I’ll be bringing micro 43 because it and a good selection of lenses fit in my carryon luggage whereas the Sony gear simply won’t. Like you guys said, it does 90% of what full frame can do at a fraction of the weight and size.
@@holdmylenscap7241 Thanks for the tip although I have a manfrotto Be free back in the UK. However part of the reason for choosing my OM1 is so that I can leave the tripod at home.
Ohhhh ! You went backwards? The OM-1 is above and beyond the mark II or Mark III . The hand held and tripod hi res works so much better. Faster. They also increased the ND stops. I've been a long time Olympus shooter, I like to see FF users try the system with an open mind and their reactions.
Yeah went backwards as for me the ProCapture was the feature I really wanted and right now the OM-1 is out of budget. And I am really happy with my MkII too :) But if I could I'd get the OM-1 for sure :)
100% with you. Everyone claims FF bodies are getting smaller so the size argument is moot. It's really about the lenses. Physics is physics. You need more glass to bring in light to hit the bigger sensor. I have FF, APS-C, and MFT. I grab MFT 95% of the time. Smallet, lighter, and more fun. Most folks view my photos on computers and cellphones, so I dont need maximum megapixels. Plus, those large FF pictures slow down my machine during post-processing and clog up my storage.
many years ago I saw an exhibition with A1 prints. From a Canon EOS 300D. They were amazing photos and if I watched from 30 centimetre far only then I could see some pixelation.
The Olympus is a beast no doubt. I love my G9 and I also love my EOS M series bodies (M, M200, M50 and M6 Mk2). MFT and APS-C are infinitely more comfortable to shoot with and with quality glass produce images on par and even superior to FF cameras.
it is one of the most beautiful lenses out there :) And the results with it are great too. So sad we had to send it back :'( but it's on the top of our list to get one :P
I agree. It's in the top 3 on my shopping list :) It's a pleasure to use, to look at and is producing great images. What else a photographer could ask for? :D
Well, you used the Sony A7RIII which is a great Camera, I have Sony A7RIV and A7RIVA, so I have two Cameras, but many options ! With 61 megapixels you do not need to bring a lot of Lenses and you do not need aperture 1.4 for a 35mm Lens I have two 35mm Lenses which together are smaller and lighter than your 35mm 1.4, a Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar 35mm 2.8 and a Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 35mm 2.0 Aspherical, with 61 megapixels Cameras you can crop a lot if you need to and for Landscapes it is near perfect, though I dream of the new Fuji GFX 100 II. I use magnification for focusing, very easy and very precise. I never use a center column on a tripod !!! I have done Landscape photography since 1979, I do not think you need to have "everything" in focus, for 16 years I used a 6x6cm Hasselblad Camera, I had never problems with depth of field, it is all about what you decide you want to be the sharpest in a Landscape.
Nice comparison and review. I don't know either of you but the guy's accent is so similar to people here in Transylvania when they speak in English. Please tell!
That's a question only you can answer. If you can try some of the Olympus cameras and see how it feels, how the files are for your taste. But since Olympus is a really affordable system, you can use it to not replace, but compliment your Canon setup. I have an Olympus EM-1 Mk2, and it's a terrific camera, even though it's old and now dirt cheap second hand, but I still have my Sony setup too.
The aperture is a physical measurement, nothing to do with the sensor size. M43 f1.4 is f1.4, full frame f1.4 is f1.4 and large format f1.4 is f1.4 too.
@@holdmylenscap7241 The end result will be the same, the look (focal and DOF) will be the same between a 25mm f1.4 M43 and a 50mm f2.8 FF, the exposure will not be the same but bumping the ISO on the FF will give you the same result (without more noise). So, even if it's true f1.4 in M43 will give you the same light than f1.4 FF, there is no advantage for M43. We can't cheat with physic. M43 strenght is IBIS, small lenses(for now) and rolling shutter.
@holdmylenscap7241 You are so wrong. As @aiseurnae5976 say, the result of a M43 25/1,4 will be the same as FF 50/2,8. A simple calculation is to take a M43 lens times two for focal length, depth of field and ISO. (ISO can very depending on generation and typ of sensor)
This is one of the best and most objective videos I've seen relating to the differences and advantages/disadvantages of FF and m4/3's systems. I recently retired from a professional photography career successfully using Olympus 4/3's systems for the 18 years, doing mostly weddings, portraits, and corporate events. In all that time, I never had a client complain about image quality -- ever.
Thank you Greg! It's so true, if you are looking at a MFT photo and a FF photo at normal viewing distances it's impossible to tell the difference. No client will go into pixel-peeping :)
Weird because MFT cameras are only 15 years old.
@@tdawg719Not weird at all, if you read what I wrote, I said Olympus 4/3's systems -- not Olympus m4/3's systems. I shot weddings and corporate events with Olympus E-1's, E-3's, and E-5's before converting to m4/3's. They all us 4/3's sensors.
@@gregm6894Excuse me, I am an mft user, but the only pro lens I have is the panaleica 100-400mm ii and I am really happy with it for wildlife. However, I am debating wherever to get a ff camera for portraits, do you have mft lenses recommendations that you came across your career instead of a second system? I am thinking the panasonic 35-100f2.8.
Great comparison review, I recently picked up the OM-1 after years of shooting full frame Canon, after injuring my arm and arthritis I can really appreciate the smaller and lighter lenses of the OM-1, also I find the colors are closer to Canon and more pleasing vs the Sony.
I always found Sony's neutral colours better than Canon so need to get used to Olympus colours. But it's such a joy to use. Small, light and lots of great features.
Thank you! :) Merry Christmas to you too! :)
Have you tried the muted setting for the Olympus? Been using E-M1 m2 for a couple years now and been very happy with it. The weather sealing is on another level too!
Glad you discovered the joy of using Olympus. As a long time user of Olympus gear plus a Nikon D750, I can honestly say I far prefer the Olympus for shooting experience and enjoyment. One thing that you have not mentioned, nor virtually any other review on YT is the inbuilt supersonic wave dust reduction on all Olympus cameras. In my 15 years use, I have never once have to clean any Olympus sensors! As for my Nikon D750, sadly and at some expense, I have to clean the sensor numerous times every year and even once send back to Nikon for cleaning.
I did notice that with the Oly I don't need to blow the sensor when changing lenses a lot. Now I know why! :D
I know what you mean about the Olympus SSW, I have been an Olympus user for many years from E-510, EM1mkii & iii, Pen-F, never had to clean my sensor once, but had a Sony A7iii for 1 x week and had to clean the sensor. I hear that the bigger sensor attracts more dust due to the larger charge. Another tip is to delay removing or switching the lens after switching off fora few moments to allow the charge to dissipate. I love my Olympus.
I actually had to wet-clean the sensor of my Pen F once - there was something sticking to it (might've been pollen). But other than that, it is as you said.
Same here! It's a pitty that people are discovering the marvelous olympus after the camera department got sold... OM systrms are doing a great job continuing the legacy (I'm blown away with the om1), I just hope they keep the momentum and that pioneer mentality/vision olympus had...
Totally agree. My EM10ii is 6 years old - never cleaned the sensor
The Olympus 75mm F1.8 really comes so close giving that full frame look most people will never know.
And it's the sexiest lens ever made :D
I agree. It is a lovely lens, but just not practical for a lot of working spaces.
Love that lens...
Yeah it's real a outdoor portrait lens.
Even if you are a photographer it's hard to tell the difference.
Nice job! I had a Canon FF and 2 years ago I rented a E-M5 mkii for 5 days in Utah out of curiosity and was blown away. I sold all of my beloved Canon lenses and the body and went directly to Olympus. Before sending off my Canon I did a comparison shot similar to yours of my daughter using the 70-200 f4L and the Lumix 35-100 2.8 and was blown away! I would say the M43 was actually a bit sharper. The only comparison that the FF was when pixel peeping the details on her hair--that aside there was virtually no difference. Despite the FF sensor being 4X the size--the photo was not 4X better--to me that is the key. I am so happy I could afford to buy--and carry 2 lenses that cover 24-200 mm--both f/2.8.
This was a great video and I wish you success with your channel!
It looks like you had more fun with Olympus than Canon. Most of my friends that have a full frame system only bring it to special events. Whereas it's easy to go out with a M4/3 system in the pocket and shoot. My favorite combination is my old e-m1 mark 1 with Lumix 25mm 1.4 lens...
It's fun you say the Oly results look sharper as that's one thing I've noticed too how some of the results showing more fine detail with the Olympus than with the Sony even with the same DSLR lens adapted on both! I think we will do a video where we compare the two system but this time with the same lenses and will go into a bit of pixel-peeping :)
My first MFT setup that I bought from a friend, was a E-M1.1 with a Lumix 14mm f2.5, just after we got the kit from MPB :)
For some uses yes. I switched to ff because mft couldn't keep up with low light and artificial colors when shooting concerts/nightclubs. Sharpness wasn't part or the equation, i find all modern camera systems are too sharp and sometimes use vintage lenses and filters to offset this.
I used both Olympus and Sony full frame. The combination gave me versatility
Yeah I found the same. Having both is a perfect combo. I believe MFT is better to compliment full frame more than APSC
In the analog photography world, it made sense to get the larger format, the larger negative. But in digital photography, the disadvantages of the large format come into play: large, heavy, expensive. I also switched to Olympus a few months ago and I really enjoy taking photos again.
nice cope
I've used an entry level APS-C camera for years which met my needs just fine but wanted to switch to a mirrorless system, I take a lot of pictures of small stuff, mostly toys so I end up shooting in apertures like f/8-f/12 most of the time so the thought of switching to a full frame system didn't make a lot of sense to me, I ended up getting the Olympus E-M1 MkII and I have to say, it's made photography so much more fun then my other camera. My last camera didn't have any kind of image stabilization, and it's autofocus was pretty bad. I grabbed the E-M1 with a 12-40mm f/2.8 pro and it's been such a world of difference. It's my first weather sealed camera too, so sometimes I'm like, "Oh, it's raining, maybe I'll go outside and take photo-stacked images of flowers with water droplets on them" and end up with really lovely images of flowers in the rain I never would have even thought to take before! They say the best camera you have is the camera you have with you and I've started bringing it everywhere, because it's just such a nice size, I'm looking for more photography options everywhere I go, it's just made photography such a joy. Plus I come back to the price, the E-M1 MkII is a pro camera I got with a pro zoom lens for under $1k USD and it's just hard to get the value and features for that price, if I had spent that much on a mirrorless body I think I would have gotten worse features in my camera, the Pro Capture feature has made me want to get into bird photography just because it seems like a lot of those small moments are easier to nail now.
the E-M1 MkII is a great camera. I love mine too!
I have yet to see the quality being "better"...especially with the 135 vs 75 shootout. The model's opinion suggested such, as well. Excellent video!
well at the end of the day more depends on the photographer (and the model) than the camera / system
Très bonne vidéo je suis passé sur l'Olympus OMD EM1 Mark III et franchement ce boîtier est incroyable, la qualité des optiques est impressionnante, en comparaison de mon Sony A7III l'Olympus OMD EM1 Mark III m'offre plus de possibilités, de plus le poids de l'équipement est beaucoup plus resonable, et c'est très appréciable lor des expéditions, la qualité des images est sublime, la possibilité de faire des photos à 50mp à main levée et 80mp sur trépied donne des possibilités encore plus vertigineuses.
Awesome video guys! Really a lot of thought and effort put in which we all appreciate for sure. I've been shooting with M43 gear since 2015 starting with the OMD EM5. As an avid long term traveller I've always appreciated the great size and weight of M43 bodies and lenses. Though I currently own 7 different M43 bodies I only very recently added a Sony A7 III to my arsenal out of curiosity. So in a way my history with cameras seems to be the complete opposite to you guys haha. I'll definitely check out your previous videos and certainly look forward to more M43 and FF content to come. Warm regards from Australia :)
Thank you!
Well I would highly recommend olympus. As a bird photographer (FROM A 4X4 WHEELCHAIR) you can not go past olympus. Their IBIS is incredible. I use a E-M1X with a 400mm lens hand held. I can totally rely on the IBIS to get the shot. That said there is not a perfect camera. Each system will have advantages and disadvantages. For me in a wheelchair the Olympus was the wise choice for size and stability. Love the video. Cheers from Australia.
Thanks to the sensor technology boom 7-8 years ago smaller sensors are delivering outstanding results and they can do in a small and light package :) Thanks for watching
So you have discovered the joy we in MFT land experience have at the quality we can get out of such small and light equipment. No camera system is perfect, each has advantages as well as limitations, and there are plenty of advantages to be enjoyed in MFT.
Yes I did and I hope this video might inspire other people to give MFT a chance. But you will definitely see more MFT content on our channel
I am an early user of Olympus starting at the Pen Ft film camera for weddings in B&W processing the film by myself and printing by my self, I then graduated to OM4Ti and with a Metz 60CT was an unbeatable combination. I came to the digital scene late and started with OMD-EM5 which has a mouth watering array of lenses and now with the Pro series you donot need the large sensor to get the shot even enlarging to 8x10, check the OM System sample photos they enlarge to let you read small print.The auto focus with Olympus is good enough,to produce crisp shots.
So it is a no brainer unless you cater for poster size prints mft is ample.
I always read about the legendary Zuiko lenses but never had one and now I am feeling how much I missed out :) MFT did definitely win our hearts and will be part of our gear collection.
There is a tendency to depend on technology to avoid common mistakes such as ability to hold the camera still during the shot, also the tracking function +auto focus toavoid need to compose and focus (previuosly using a split image or microprism)also the fact that it is easier to make lenses for a smaller sensor than one for a larger sensor needing involved 'correction', having used a 5mp camera as an introduction to the digital scene and having succesfully shot a wedding with good results, I am convinced that with care good photos should be possible .Stabilisation has its limits.
I love the M43 system. I have an EM1 Mark III with Pro lenes. I sell my work on-line and at galleries and have never had a buyer say "oh, I'm not buying your work because it wasn't shot with a FF camera"
exactly. what matters is the final image, not the gear. FF might help you to get there a little easier (bit more dynamic range, maybe better colours, slightly less noise at low light) but in the end I highly doubt that anyone could point out the difference between a FF or MFT photo up to like A1 prints. Would love to see your work, do you have instagram?
The Olympus 45mm/1.2 has the same Bokeh as a 90mm/2.4 which is enough in many cases. However current 85mm 1.2/1.4 can also be used wide open and deliver more Bokeh, however when getting too close many parts of a face can be rendered unsharp, which should be sharp. So I see the different composition of full-frame as an advantage, but I also saw many perfect portraits with the Olympus Pro lens. I nearly always use my Olympus camera when I do not know what to expect to take photos of. I only take my Canon R-6 when I exactly know what I want and have the lenses for (24-70, 24-105, 85mm, 70-200). Mainly for Art Photos, I see a difference (but that might only be me handling the R6). For documentaries, wildlife, and macro, Olympus does the better job for me.
Exactly how we feel. Olympus is great for almost everything, except for portraits where you want the shallowest depth of field possible. Even in low light I did not feel that the Full Frame would have a huge advantage, some yes, but nothing mind blowing. The one thing that I really love with the Olympus that I don't have to think twice on which lens to take, I just take all :D With Full Frame I always carefully choose what to take as it can get heavy pretty quickly, and then there is always a regret for not taking one of the lenses... :)
You don't always want the shallowest possible depth of field. For example with the 75mm at f/1.8 for a close-up portrait I can have the eyelashes in focus and the nose out of focus which is too shallow. There are some situations where a large format lens wide open can have an advantage, but for me the m43 75mm has more than enough DoF for portrait shots, and unlike some larger-format lenses it's very sharp wide open.
Good video, well done and thank you. I used to own Sony gear (A9 and A7R4) and marvellous though these cameras are, the weight of two bodies plus 200 - 600mm, 100 - 400mm GM, 90mm f2.8 macro and 24 - 70mm f2.8, was killing me. I decided to move back to Olympu/OMS and now own two OM1 bodies, a 300mm f4 Pro + MC14/MC20, a 12 - 100mm f4 Pro and will shortly receive a 90mm f3.5 macro Pro lens - trading in my 60mm f2.8 macro and 40 - 150mm f4 Pro lens. To be honest, I would not trade my Oly/OMS gear for anything else on the market - even if the weight of the system were not an issue. ProCapture with the OM1 is now 120fps and 50fps (with the right lenses) and at 50fps and lower, the camera tracks the subject.
I am an avid Sony shooter for the last 11 years, but since I got the Olympus OM-D EM-1 Mark II, I barely used the Sony. I just like the fact that I can take the whole Olympus set with me everywhere and don't have to worry about taking up too much space or weight... And the image quality is not much behind the Sony's. And yes, all the extra functions I can have with the Olympus is insane.
As a former Olympus Pro, I've spent a lot of time with their systems, and recently migrated my serious work to the Sony A7 IV. I did spend years shooting with a Ricoh GR and now a GR III. And I love the pocket rocket feel of that camera. Now... if only it had a pop up EVF like other cameras!
I really enjoyed your video, and for me apart from the higher resolution of the Sony, it's the dynamic range that knocks me out. The ability to hold highlight and shadow details in post-processing is amazing at times. And with recent advances to AI Masking in Lightroom and Photoshop, that extra data is wonderful to work with. I do like the smaller size of the micro-43 system. I have a lot of original Four-Thirds glass, so found that when the EM1 shipped with on sensor phase and contrast detection AF, now all those old lenses are now usable. Still in low-light, the Ricoh and Sony have bested my Olympus gear, and since I'm a low light shooter....
The dynamic range of Sony is insane.
@@holdmylenscap7241 Yes, that's one of the more amazing things about using them. I did a book project last year, where I used my Sony to do image capture, as opposed to scanning. I used to teach scanning workshops, but using a modern digital camera with a macro lens, to do the copy work was a revelation. Not only the resolution, but the dynamic range allowed me to pull down and hold details in the highlights, and the lack of noise in the shadows allowed me to pull up and use detail in the shadows. That project became a book of a German photographer friend's color transparencies from 1969-1974, unseen for over 50 years. I should note that I tried this with my Olympus EM-1 Mark I, and it wasn't even close.
I still have my E-1 system with lenses! And my old original lenses for the E-1 work great with the 4/3 to Micro 4/3 adapter with the EM-1, since it finally had both phase and contrast detection AF, so all the older lenses designed for their DSLRs actually focus quickly, which hasn't happened till that series of cameras were introduced. I did a ton of comparison photos to write an article, but never finished the article! I should do something with the photos!
I have a trusty old Panasonic DMC-GX1, and the compact size and low weight was one of the main reasons why I went for MFT. The GX1 takes this to the extreme because it is pretty bare-bones with no viewfinder, a fixed display, and no in-body stabilisation. It looks like some weird unimportant attachment when mounted on a 100-300 telephoto lens, but even when comparing this combo to what is needed for a full-frame 600mm equivalent, nobody would believe it has the same reach. Until the advent of smartphone cameras decent enough for undemanding everyday shots, I've always had this camera fitted with a pancake lens in my backpack, and today I still don't have to think twice about taking it along when there might be a need for more than what the smartphone can deliver.
I'm thinking of moving to an Olympus/OM System body to get both the missing viewfinder (which I really miss in some situations) and in-body stabilisation that works together with the lens stabilisation. It will be slightly larger and heavier, but still totally backpackable.
The OM-1 is a really good piece of hardware. Personally I think that's the top of MFT now vs the GH6
I have both systems and Panasonic M4/3 too. I like to use the smaller sensor system for macro and street photography, but I think it suffers in low light situations. I own a Sony a7iv + 200 - 600 combo for wildlife and a A7Rii for landscape and astrophotography. I just like to use the right tool for what I have in mind. That Oly 75mm is one of the sharpest lenses one can buy, by the way and is great for videoing owls at dusk.
The Sony 200-600 is a beast of a lens, but it's just too heavy for me :)
MFT doesn't suffer in low light at all. With a fast prime and the combination of lense stab AND IBIS you can slow that shutter speed waaaaay down and still get nice clear shots.
@@rjakiel73 I track and photograph deer in woodland and any birds I come across. Slow shutter speeds are not an option at those times, if you want to avoid motion blur.
Have had Micro 4/3 for years. Love it. Was surprised at using the display instead of the EVF for photos in the video. I LOVE looking through the EVF, much better than using the display.
For me it's situational and the tap to focus/shoot feature of the Olympus makes it really easy to quickly capture anything.
Hi! Lovely video. I'm somebody who went from APS-C Fuji down to m43. Pretty much been an APS-C shooter. Did some m43 back around 2013/2014, but ended up in Fuji after leaving Nikon. Good comparison in your video.
My main love of Olympus is the 5-axis IBIS. So many shots I missed with my Fuji's (shooting primes) due to shake of these senior-citizen hands, lol.
My only complaint: why do you darken the crops when you show the results? It's hard to see the details in the cropped image then. Other than that, fine work.
Hi John,
I find Fuji to be the best APS-C system, their cameras are very well designed. The difference between APS-C and MFT is not as big as it is between FF and APS-C, so switching from Fuji to Olympus should not come with much sacrifice, yet you will enjoy the amazing tiny Olympus lenses :)
The "crops" are darkened because we just use that as a background for the photo. In this video I didn't want to show pixel level details as I did not want to go into pixel peeping :) We will definitely come with more MFT content where we will show 1:1 details too.
One of the best features of Olympus cameras that no one ever talks about that it displays the image you just took for 0.3 of a second with the Olympus OMD E-M1ii and my Olympus OMD E-M5 displays the image for 0.5 second. You can change in the settings how long you want to display the image after taking it.
This is a life saver feature for wedding photography. Sometimes you will forget to change a setting and you'll catch your mistake before it becomes a big issue. And you don't want to be in that boat telling the bride and groom you messed up.
I've heard stories even about some of the biggest wedding photographers who are even ambassadors that have messed up really bad at a wedding.
Don't know if other brands have this feature but if they set it up in your camera if your shooting anything you can redo and your butt is online. Its even a good feature for other things even if your butt is not online because if you can stop a mistake even redoing something is a pain.
I didn't even realise how good it is until I read your comment. I usually turn off the preview as it shows for too long, but .5 seconds is just what you need.
@@holdmylenscap7241 Its a great feature and it saved my butt a few times from messing up at weddings.
I've heard horror stories of other photographers changing settings and forget to change them back after doing something.
There is another safety net a Canon Ambassador Joe Buissink came up with back when everyone was shooting DSLR cameras. He only shoots in P Mode. A lot of people have no idea how P Mode really works. You can change aperture and shutter speed in P Mode by moving the dial this is called Program Shift. I believe Nikon might call it something else. It won't help if you go into manual and need to shoot flash but its a really good way of shooting with natural light.
I was thinking of shooting like this with the Olympus OMD E-M1ii but the way the AEL button works is dif talferent then all the other brands that I know of.
With Olympus when you hit the AEL button it locks it and you have to hit it the AEL button again to unlock it.
With the other brands when thumb comes off the AEL button it unlocks what you locked.
There are some good videos on TH-cam with Joe Buissink talking about shooting in P Mode just have a open mind it really makes sense.
I shot a video handheld of some Trumpeter Swans at 800mm FF equivelent on the GH6 earlier today that came out fantastic. I can't imagine being able to do that with a full frame setup as much as it would weigh.
Well it will be definitely require some muscles on a Full Frame setup :)
At 10:18 in, what's the explanation for the grid pattern visible in the waterfall in the two Sony images? I ask because I encountered a similar grid pattern while doing some high resolution shots with my OM-1 recently.
That's caused by the movement of the water. The same as what you can see with the moving people, but as it's on a much smaller scale it creates this grid like pattern. This is one of the drawbacks of the multi-image high resolution mode, but Olympus seemed to handle it pretty well.
I have both these cameras; I bought the Olympus after I got the Sony for some of the features it has that no other company has (Panasonic is close, but not quite as loaded for photography). For hiking and the creative features I take the Olympus. If I needed low light and more dynamic range: Sony. But let’s talk about price. At launch a7r3 $3,200 pro lenses are usually around $1500 and up. Olympus $1800 at launch, pro lenses are around $800 to $1400 (a few are more). So you can imagine for the cost of getting going on Olympus is far less, and trust me when I say Olympus lenses are top notch. So if you need a professional camera for low light for work, go FF; but if you are having fun or are just a creator that wants lots of options, you’ll get more bang for your buck with the Olympus.
100% agree with you. The MFT system is really budget friendly, and where it lacks in size it makes up in features. I believe it is a perfect complementary system for a Full Frame, but even on it's own it is a very capable, affordable system on it's own.
You guys are so natural! Very pleasant content, liked and subscribed. Nikon FX + Om shooter here, the former since a long time, OM recently. In some situations FX sensor still makes the difference, but honestly they are quite rare. As you said, the computational options of the OM-1 make it very effective in almost every kind of scenery. Using this little gem gives me tons of pleasure, and Pro lenses are built up to the highest standards. Top value for money. I still use my D850, and D700 too now and then, when I stay around and move by car. For all the rest I pick the OM-1.
I really want an OM-1 and will get one for sure... but only if the price drops enough for my budget :D
So natural. Yes. From the first few minutes I was immersed in this couple as much as the gear.
Just like watching a couple do what they like to do and bringing us along. 💁🏻♀️ Olympus E-PL 7
I would like to see the same comparison between the OM1 and the Sony.
I'd love to :D But as of now we can only stretch as far as the OM-D EM-1.2 :D
A very fair comparison, pointing out where which system has its strengths. The OM-1 might've faired a bit better, as it now has a stacked BSI sensor (and some advanced computational features). BTW, the tripod high-res example from the Olympus looks somewhat wrong to me, far worse than I would've expected (I've used it with my Pen F on some occasions outdoors, and it gave much better detail resolution; I also use it for scanning 4x5 film negatives, and I also get very high resolution details).
I was expecting a bit better results as well from the tripod hi-res. I've the feeling that no matter how much I tried to shield the camera from wind (and was waiting for some quiet moments) there could've been some shake involved. Overall it was quite a good performance, but I think the Sony did better there, probably as the images are not stitched in the camera so there is more computational power available. I wish Olympus would give us the option to have all the separate files and then do the stitching on a computer.
I'd love to test the OM-1 too, but as of now we could only borrow the E-M1.3 :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 I think you are right regarding camera shake. The hand-held high-res shot was much better, and this mode *is* made to compensate for camera movement … ;-)
Tips like this at 24:26 are going to make an IMMEASURABLY greater effect on the quality of a photographer's output. Nonetheless the full frame images looked nicer to me across the board here, it just comes down to whether it's enough to make you want to carry the extra weight. I have a little Panasonic G80 which I use as a compact camera when I don't necessarily want to drag a full frame DSLR, but if I am feeling ambitious with what I'm shooting I will generally grab the larger camera. The DSLR does have certain handling advantages as well
I agree on both :)
The camera is just a tool, but the key is how well it's used!
The extra bulk of the Full frame cameras (and more, the lenses) does bring better results, but I believe 19 out of 20 times the difference is going to be so little that it's debatable if it's worth to carry it around. I do believe that everyone should have a small M43 setup for the joy of photography everywhere, any time :)
Interesting comparison. I split the difference between the M4/3rd and FF and use APS-C. Lenses are small, less expensive and plenty sharp. Will also add that we're starting to get more compact primes for Sony FF that are also very nice. So size and weight start to get closer to M4/3rd combos.
Sure, while there are many nice small lenses for FF and APS-C (especially Fuji) they are still noticeably bigger than MFT :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 I guess I have to try MFT again, had a few Panasonic cameras and highlights clipped way too often. Also didn’t like the noise above ISO 3200. But agree, the tiny lenses are very appealing. And the OM-1 clicks a lot of boxes for features that are important to me.
Definitely! Especially with the second hand prices are so low, it's really a budget friendly system. One of my favourite lenses now is the M.Zuiko 45mm f1.8 which goes around £100. I can't believe how cheap that lens is compared to what it's capable of. Or the 60mm macro, or the 17mm f1.8, or the Laowa 7.5mm... My only concern about MFT is I'll be tempted to get some of the lenses because they are so cheap (and good quality) that I might end up hoarding MFT lenses :D
Great channel and topic discussion. As a M4/3 user (Olympus E-M5 Mark ii) and shooting mainly landscape images, I always had it in the back of my mind that full-frame offered MUCH better IQ. What stood out for me in your video was that when reviewing your landscape images individually, both the FF and M4/3 images looked great. It is only when comparing them side-by-side that the better IQ of the FF system becomes apparent. In reality though, nobody does that. I think that the M4/3 can hold its own.
I agree. Even when comparing them side by side you really have to zoom in 100% to see the difference and if you apply a bit of sharpening in post process on the Olympus it will be even harder to see the differences. What really surprised me is how small the difference in low light situations between the two. I expected the FF to wipe the floor with the Oly there, but in the end the Olympus was keeping up pretty well.
Where I noticed some difference is editing. The FF files were a tad easier to edit, I felt like I have more room to play with, especially in the highlights.
I love my Olympus E-M1 Mk3. I was a full-frame shooter for a long time. I do have a full-frame camera for the low-light situations where I need that extra ISO but with DXO Pure RAW the MFT files look amazing even at high ISO. May sell the full-frame and get a second MFT body for backup. I also love MPB and they are my first stop when looking for new camera gear.
I was always keeping an eye on the MFT but somehow I was afraid that the smaller sensor will be limiting. I am really glad that Professional Photo magazine and MPB gave us the chance to try the MFT gear as it really changed my perspective on many things.
I love DXO Pure RAW. It's amazing and can really complement the m4/3 sensor.
Always, love Sony but their is something special about shooting with the M43 system, especially Olympus (well the OM System now) its Magical...👌 Great content giving both system its benefits and it's flaws...👍
I feel like Sony and Olympus together is a really great combo. Sony is for the more serious shoots and Olympus for the joy of photography.
...I think the main point of the 1.2 on the 45mm olympus is precisely to get more separation, so it would have been nice to see it used to its fullest potential. Still, nice video!
Yes I agree, unfortunately on this occasion we only noticed it was at f1.8 when reviewed the pictures at home :D We did some comparison wide open as well on a separate shoot (for the magazine article)
But keep in mind it was the first time Alyssa using that camera :D
Panasonic G9 is probably the best and most enjoyable CV camera I've ever owned. MFT is a major competitor in today's market. I think FF only has a low light advantage. That's about it.
FF has a few advantages due to the bigger sensor size, but MFT has a very strong place in today's line-up.
It's not a small thing when you always shoot in low light... and in harsh daylight i just use my phone.
Nicely done; in addition to some great photo I truly enjoyed the banter and the T shirts! Nice to see an example of how you can do great work with both MFT and FF; dependent on your needs at the time!
Thanks for watching! :D We really e enjoyed the opportunity to compare the two systems and our experience with the MFT was very surprising for us too :)
Hope our T-Shirts are not too geeky :P (but we are kind of a geek anyway :P)
Exactly. What a cute couple. Makes me want to find a partner again. ツ
Has anyone in the UK ever had the chance to try Starry AF? FYI: on the other side of the clouds there's a big yellow sun during the day and, at night, distant stars that look like little points of light.
You will love the 60 macro if you are careful to use the focus limiter switch as designed. Because of the vast amount of lens movement required for the 0.19m -> inf. range , it can hunt like a Neanderthal.
The 60 macro is one of the best lenses I've ever used. It's well designed and the IQ is phenomenal. Can't wait for the 90mm macro coming out with 2:1 repro, hope it'll be priced similarly :)
Good stuff, I shoot Nikon D4s, and the D500 with 500PF, and 300PF for wildlife and birds in flight, I also shoot dual EM1Xs with 300 pro, and 40-150 pro, the photos I make are pretty much the same, of course the D4s can shoot at midnight, but that is another story. I also shoot landscape with the Nikon 24-120 f4, and the Olympus 12-100 f4, again, pretty much the same.I enjoy both systems, it's up the the photographer to make this stuff actually work! Cheers!
Exactly :) Gear might make things easier in certain situations but if anyone is depending on gear, they just limit themselves.
Great review! I switched from FF to MFT in 2024, bought a Pana G9 - a brilliant camera for a little more then 500 USD. Gradually I sold all my FF system as I realized that it does not give real vesible improvement... I was mesmerized by top quality zooms mft has. Oly 12-100/4, OM 8-25/4, Panasonic 100-300 II (it replaced my Sigma 100-400)... Using my current mft setup is pure joy!
Thank you for the comparison. I'm shooting Olympus and have a few points to highlight. To get the same look when comparing FF and M43, I need to not only double the size of focal lengths but also the aperture. You could see it when comparing Oly 45mm f1.2 PRO with Samyang AF 85mm f1.4 when shooting at f1.8. In this case, Oly shot as f1.8 is equivalent of f3.6 at FF. It would be much more comparable to shoot Oly at the lowest f1.2 (2.4 at FF) with Samyang f1.8 or higher. Oly 75mm f1.8 even though it's not a PRO version is an excellent lens for portraits for the fragment of the price, perfect for starting photographers. Oly 17mm F1.8 is amazing for street photography.
True, when it comes to depth of field the equivalency applies not only to the focal length but the aperture too. But when it comes to exposure then the aperture remains the same and when it comes to let's say image stabilisation then the focal length is unchanged, hence one of the reasons why MFT is much easier to shoot hand held, the other reason is the absolutely amazing image stabilization of Olympus :)
The Olympus 45mm f1.2 was shot at f1.8 because I wanted to get the Olympus 45mm f1.8 (which I got and love since then) and wanted to see how is the rendering gonna be, so I shot a few images with that setting before handed the camera to Alyssa. And as it was the very first time for her to use the camera she did not notice that the camera is left on f1.8, but we did a f1.2 vs f1.8 test later, but we did not film that part :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 Makes sense =) Im always on the hunt to see the lense comparison videos between Olympus vs. Sony, Canon etc. Especially when it comes to dynamic range, DOF and the final look when wide open to see if it makes any sense to switch to Sony or not. So far Im pretty happy with my Oly setup. I have 7-14mm PRO (for real estate) , 17mm PRO, 25mm PRO and 12-40mm PRO lenses (product shots), thinking about 45mm PRO, then 14-42mm pencake (great for casual traveling, but be careful, the electronic zoom stopped working, I googled that it had something to do with the "flex cable" or something like this, estimate fix cca 200eur which in my case is not worth spending), then 17mm f1.8 (great for photos, not suitable for video, here again, when using continuous focus when filming, the camera records annoying "clicking" sounds on all my 3 Oly cameras, otherwise I love the metal lens cover, 25mm f1.8 - not worthy, I found chrimatic abb too much prominent to my liking, 45mm f1.8 excellent detail shots and portrait lens, great for video too and so small !!!!, 75mm f1.8 amazing portait, amazing glass, and finally 60mm Macro f2.8 - amazing for product shots, portraits (yes it does wonder) and of course teeny tiny macro world. if the focus is getting too slow, try switching the limiter to your desire distance.
If you enjoy the MFT then there is absolutely no point going for Sony or any other Full Frame system. There are barely any situations where we really need the full frame setup. We use it mostly only for portraits with shallow depth of field or where good tracking is essential, but I shoot with my little Olympus about 10-15 times more than I pick up my Sony A7R3. We have used the 17mm f1.8 for video and I found it really great, but we are using external microphones so focusing noise is not an issue :) I am fairly happy with my setup right now, but I'd love to add a 12mm and a 25mm and the Zuiko 100-400 for wildlife. And also the 75mm f1.8 simply because it's a sexy beast and it was such a joy to use it :)
About voigtlander noktons for mft, guys i am in love with these lens. Yes they are heavy, they are not everyday lens. But they are best lenses for filming i have ever tested.
You should try it with an OM1, it also uses a BSI sensor.
Sure! :D Christmas is coming if anyone wants to surprise us with one LOL
OM-1 is on the list but the Zuiko 100-400 first! :P
Hope that your subscriber base will grow, this is good content.
Thank you :)
Only 16 minutes in, but this is the best comparison ever. I have searched A LOT on the m43 vs full frame differences but have not seen anything particularly useful. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
I have the OM-1 MK II and the Sony A7RV, both good for very different purposes. The OM-1 MK II is more comparable to the Sony A9III as a sports camera rather than the A7RV.
By the way, the crop factor must be considered when taking pictures to achieve an identical frame. For example, an MFT at f/1.8 and ISO 200 would need to be adjusted to f/3.6 and ISO 800 on a full-frame sensor to maintain equivalent framing, depth of field, bokeh and noise characteristics.
PS: Sony finally got focus bracketing in the A7RV, at long last, but it's still easier with the OM-1 due to its size. The 60mm 2.8 is so much smaller than my Tamron 90mm 2.8 on full-frame.
You are totally right. There is not a big difference between 1.2 & 1.3. but there is a huge to the OM1! Maybe you can rent one?
I was thinking about renting, but then I am not sure if I could handle the heartbreak when I have to send it back :D The temptation to get one is already HUGE, so I've got a feeling if I had my hands on one I would get in some financial troubles LOL
Thank you, really liked listening to your thoughts. I’m currently trying out MFT (from Fuji) and so far very impressed. Your comments on the Oly system are perfectly timed. Salutations!
For the same picture look (depth of field) of e.g. a full frame 24-70mm F2.8 you would need a 12-35mm F1.4 which is not available at MFT. True for (nearly) all wide open lenses with aperture smaller than F2.8. So you are comparing different apples.
That's true. the Depth Of Field is definitely the biggest advantage of Full Frame. But the purpose of this video was to compare usage and feel, and see how big the difference is between the two systems. For portraits with narrow DOF full frame is unmatched, but for everything else the MFT was closely just as good, which honestly was a big surprise for me as I was very biased against MFT.
You gotta do a GH6 to really compare these two
Would love to test both the GH6 and OM-1, but right now we had to settle with the E-M1.3 for the video and the E-M1.2 for purchase :)
excellent coverage of real world usage comparisons. Keep em' coming!
Thanks, will do!
Your mind was blown so many times! 😅
Been using 17/1.8 and 45/1.8 for years. No need for FF. 12-40 is also a great all around kit lens. Also, you should try using touch to focus+capture, the Olympus auto focus is so fast that you won't miss a thing. Good for chasing kids in action. 😁
and since then my EM-1.2 kept blowing my mind so many times :D I only used my Sony in the last month because I was feeling bad about not using it :D
The 45mm f1.8 is one of the best lenses I've ever used and it is such a joy to use that lens, but when it comes to paperthin DOF for portraits nothing beats the Samyang 135mm f1.8 on a Full Frame camera :)
I totally agree , and not to mention colors and white balance advantages
Thanks for showing that, except in rare cases, (sensor) size truly does not matter!!! Great photographers get great results with any gear, but MFT has so many advantages over larger-sensor systems that IMO, the small difference in DR is simply not worth the extra size/weight/expense of "FF" or APS-C (MF as well). I've produced exceptional large prints from smaller sensor cameras (including 1" and even pocket point-and-shoots and phones, but those do have their limitations). I've used (and luckily can afford) many different types of cameras and my "go to" system is the Lumix G9 (I prefer Lumix ergo to Oly, but that's obviously a personal choice--they both make great cameras and I do have an Oly camera as well).
Pixel peeping is a pointless pursuit! I've never had anyone comment about any of my photos having IQ issues--only photographers care about that stuff (and they don't buy prints). Re noise, that's no longer an issue thanks to NR such as DxO's DeepPRIME and Topaz DeNoise. As far as subject separation/DoF is concerned, you can get the results you want merely by altering aperture, FL, or distance-to-subject, and I'll take MFT's greater flexibility any day--very rarely do I try to get (or have trouble getting) shallow DoF. Of course, you can also blur backgrounds in post if that's the look you want.
I also have that Oly 60mm macro and it's great lens (my other MFT lenses include a Leica 8-18, Mitakon 25 f/0.95, Lumix G-X 35-100 f/2.8, Leica 100-400, and others, all of which of course have double the effective FL). Those fit into a small pack that weighs about 5kg/11 lb.
Comparing camera gear is like comparing audio gear--if you're more concerned about the "quality" of the reproduction than you are the artistic content, then you're missing the point. If people were logical and wanted a very capable full-range system (in my case, 16-800mm EFL) that they could easily carry just about anywhere, then MFT is the obvious choice.
I believe MFT will have it's second renaissance now as sensors IMHO reached their peak S/N ratio, so the difference between FF and MFT will be even smaller than before. In my opinion MFT is a much better companion to a FF system than an APS-C one, and apart from portrait shooters who need the thin DOF, most photographers would not be limited by the MFT in their creative process. I find Olympus to be the sexier system with their beautiful Zuiko lenses, but Panasonic also released some pretty amazing gear. Now if Olympus would join the L-Mount alliance.... :D
@@holdmylenscap7241 I certainly hope so--MFT's the most popular format in Japan, after all. I'm ambivalent about how it would affect things if SoNiCanon or others joined the MFT fray, but generally speaking, more competition = better products (and prices). I just find Oly (and Sony) bodies a bit small and love the G9's massive grip (even better with a battery grip) and menu system, but M. Zuiko lenses are great (and Leica's legendary). That's another huge MFT advantage--lenses ecosystem compatibility--it's just too bad that you can't get dual IS without native lenses. The thing is, Robin Wong did a YouYube on high-ISO MFT (th-cam.com/video/niBpqJmT0Fw/w-d-xo.html) and he got amazing results even at 12,800 with the Lumix 12-32 pancake kit zoom (which I have but rarely use--for one thing, it's not weatherproof), so maybe we're wasting our money on "premium" lenses when the results aren't that different...
@@ddsdss256 Robin is a really great TH-camr, I watch his videos quite often.
Great video, I've been using a M 4/3 Little Olympus OMD EM10 MK2 for a few years, love it with vintage 50mm Minolta and Zuiko lenses, OMD EM1 MK2/MK3 or the G9 are next on my wish list. Also use a Nikon D7200 which I love but as a walk about the Olympus is just so usable
Same for me, when I go out I won't hesitate for a second which system to take, the little Olympus or the Sony. Oh I just remembered I have to dust off the Sony... it's been a while :P
I have an epl7 which is comparable to the em10 ,but i find when using vintage OM zuiko lenses the
pictures are not as sharp. Could i be doing something wrong or is it the lens ?
@@patrickhin4301 depends on the lens, I'd always opt for the primes especially the 50mm, I've got images printed 80cm x 90cm taken with an old Zuiko 50mm and it's really sharp even at that size. Maybe try setting the aperture to F4, as fast as you can shoot without pushing iso too high too just to help eliminate any shake, also if you have to use the sharpening options in lightroom or similar and I always find upping the black levels helps too
@@74leogambo Yes i noticed that using f4 i get sharper image, correct me if i am wrong ,so does it mean its like f8 on mft?
I have not tried it on a full frame sensor maybe it will perform better . I had my 50mm since 1972 together with my om1.
I was a student then and hardly used it.
It looks such a pretty lens, i am old now
and trying to relive the past!
Thank you very much for your reply
@@patrickhin4301 the fstop multiplication of m43 confuses me as yes in theory it doubles but f4 still seems to have the bokeh of f4 so I'm really unsure 🤔, I think those old 50mm lenses are absolutely beautifully made, and you relive your youth if photography can do that well that's a beautiful thing
Long time serious Olympus shooter. Been shooting since the original EM5 I bought in 2013. I owned the EM1.2 and EM 1X. Main lenses 300mm F4, 40-150 F2.8 and 12-40 F2.8. I also shot the 75mm f1.8 and loved my little 17mm 1.8. I just sold all of it except the PenF. Now a Nikon D850 wildlife shooter. Love these files. The high iso and the ability to pull detail out of a bad exposure is in another league. Plus low light AF is stupid good.
When it comes to low light, the Full Frame shows that it's a different league, but the small Olympus has nothing to be ashamed of! I was really surprised to see how it performed in low light, so I can't wait to have a chance to test an OM-1 with it's BSI sensor
With DXO Photolab5, I can get the Olympus images to match my Nikon D750, in itself lauded for it's low light capabilities.
@@TL-xw6fh I definitely have to give it (an other) try! :D
@@TL-xw6fh That's the truth, people really need to see what can be achieved at ISO 16000 even on RAW files from an older body like the EM10ii. Even my Sony A77ii looks great at ISO 12800. Software is an important part of the process.
I just picked up a Olympus EM-1 Mark ii. I was always one of those full frame snobs, and owned about 5 of them but I'm going go start using this Olympus with a 45mm 1.8 or 75 1.8 for my upcoming shoots. Really looking forward to it! Its intended to be a second body to support my full frame but I'm sure it can eve be my main body in some occasions.
Same here. I got the little Olympus as a secondary body, but I find it using way more than the Sony :)
Ive been using Olympus for years and I love them. I had not realized (because i had been told otherwise in the past) that the f-stop on the m43 does not change with the crop factor. So that is very interesting to know!
There is a lot of confusion around the crop factor and how it affects depth of field, aperture or focal length, so I am planning to create a video about it later :)
But just think about it, if you create a photo with a full frame camera and then crop the image to M43 size the image will not change at all, the Depth of Field and the exposure will be the same, the only thing will change is the composition. This is exactly the same if you have a hardware crop like a smaller sensor size.
@@holdmylenscap7241 Surely a lot of confusion for many arises from the lazy habit of describing the 'focal ratio' just as aperture to avoid the effort of two words as is the norm nowadays. The term a fixed aperture lens is complete nonsense as every zoom lens increases in maximum aperture to some degree with focal length. It would be horrendously slow at the long end if it did not. It is the focal ratio that is staying constant with focal length not aperture. Presumably I will be called out as pedantic and petty here I am sure but it must be confusing for people entering in to photography, when they have to realise that the term aperture is not the actual real dimension of the lens aperture but the dimensionless ratio of focal length to aperture. The f stop or focal ratio for a lens does not change with sensor size, which is the whole point of it which is clear to anyone who has used a light meter, as you can ignore the sensor size as the ratioing of the light gathered over the field of view for the crop is handled in one fell swoop leaving only shutter speed and ISO as variables.
For me it is very clear that it has many more advantages in the m4/3 sensor and if it is only about bokeh, the software now can add much more bokeh and it is a much cheaper system than full frame and the quality is still there, the em1 mark ii is a gem for the price and the quality it offers even today
At the moment I'm using Em1-mk3 for everything (paid or otherwise) with primes, and want to get the Z6II for lower ligh situations eventually. But since I do macro in my own time as well, I would only use olympus for that for their smaller macro lens and stabilization combination.
Having started out with Sony, I eventually moved to seeing camera just as tools to get specific jobs done. The only thing that's a must for me is more than good weather sealing for what I'm paying to even get the nessisary kit lol.
I can't wait for the 90mm macro to be released :) It will have 2:1 magnification!
Despite what most people say micro 4/3 isn't a "cropped" system. APS-C is a crop of 35mm lens mounting system, so it is logical to call it a cropped sensor as the sensor doesn't use all the glass available from the lens. But for micro 4/3 the lens is designed for this sensor size, so it's somehow "full frame" too. I think it's a huge marketing mistake from Olympus and Panasonic to have called the system micro 4/3 because it emphasizes the smaller size of the sensor which isn't a problem at all as the lens system is really rich and capable.
Yeah the "micro" does not helps, but I think the reason is because it's still a FourThirds system, so it has the smaller sensor, but because of the lack of mirror they could make the lenses even smaller. So FourThirds was a small system and MFT is a micro system :) Personally I find Sony's APS-C line pointless as it is now. Fuji's APS-C line is great :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 Agreed 👍
@@holdmylenscap7241 why do you think Sony Aps c is useless? They have the best autofocus, no video record limits, good sensor performance (detail/lowlight), and more lenses than Canon + Nikon (including good lenses from sigma and tamron).
@@np-ql2ih And a good dslr will still outperform any mirror less at action shots
@@konradkoeppe2840 I'm afraid you are behind the times. Which DSLR shoots 50 FPS with auto focus? The Olympus OM-1 does.
The telephoto lenses are where m4/3's really shines in terms of price, size, and weight. I have a Panasonic 45-175mm f/4-5.6 that is razor sharp -- that's a 90-350mm equivalent FOV -- it weighs 7.4 oz and is 3.5 in. long at full zoom!
I am really eyeing the Zuiko 100-400 for wildlife.
@@holdmylenscap7241 I have the 100-400mm -- it is a great lens -- quality build and superb sharpness.
@@gregm6894 i got the lumix 45-150 and i really like the manual focus. I get some nice bokeh outside.
@Greg M can I have it? :D PLEEEASE! :D
Have you tried it with the 2x and the 1.4x?
@@holdmylenscap7241 Sorry for the slow response -- I just saw your question. I have not tried either teleconverter with my 100-400mm -- I don't own either one.
The reason being that I am primarily a JPEG shooter, and have found that I get amazing quality images using the built-in DTC (Digital Teleconverter). That function does a 2X crop to the center of the frame (the sharpest area) and resamples the file to a full size file in-camera. I have done extensive tests using the DTC and cropping after-the-fact in post processing and can see no discernible difference. For RAW shooters, you can easily shoot RAW + JPEG and get a RAW full frame image file and the corresponding cropped JPEG file -- I simply skip the RAW file capture.
That said, I have reprogrammed the video button on my Olympus E-M1X to toggle the DTC Function 'On' and 'Off'. When shooting birds for example, if I need a closer FOV, I simply press a button and my 100-400mm becomes a 200-800mm FOV (400-1600mm FF FOV)-- without giving up any lens speed. I have a number of exhibition prints hanging on my studio walls that were done using the DTC. Wish I could post a sample here.
I shoot for the subject, not the background so bokeh isn't too important in my shooting (more wildlife and nature) ......... presently the OM-1 is faster and much more accurate in Pro Cap - and I only shoot at 25 fps which is usually adequate even for wildlife ........ Seeing the end of the vid where you showed the EM-1 MK II that you purchased and mentioned the loose rubber grip, I will mention that mine did the same thing about a yr or two after picking mine up brand new, I did return it to Olympus for service, once I picked up my EM-1 Mark III. For $100 Cdn, they replaced the right side grip, the rear thumb grip, replaced a couple of worn buttons and calibrated the camera. Job done and now I have a great backup. Problem is, the OM-1 was released and I picked that one up too ! Right after picking up my 150-400 f/4.5 .... Oh the decisions to make when I head out shooting ......... at least I have the full suite of Pro Zooms, so I can have three bodies with me - now I'm back to the problem of too much gear ..... for wildlife though, the 300 f/4 is not flexible since it's a prime, but it is almost my fav lens on any of the bodies - I keep them all and have good backup at any point ...
Refreshing objective views on your video here, but I hear it all the time from a good friend Sony shooter all the time, especially when I use Pro Cap and he tries to grab the same shot ..... when he curses me, I know it's just a little frustration about Sony not having that feature available, after all the years of my Olympus use ......
the 150-400 is a dream lens for me :) but I think I will settle with the 100-400 as it fits my budget more, can't wait to try that with ProCapture :)
I enjoy shooting with the Sony too, but when I can get nearly as good images with the E-M1.2 as with the A7R3 or A7.4 then it makes me think twice to grab the heavy gear instead of the lightweight Olympus :)
shot with Canon full frameandcrop cameras since 2005just got an olympus OMD-EM1X as step into mirrorles thinking if i have to change lens to stay with Canon I may aswell try different brand.Sold the crop sensor bodies andacouple oflenses to cover cost of camea and 100-400 lens,So far liking the camera controls set up and ability to change controls to suit needs, compared to canon menu system.
I love how much the Olympus is customisable. You can really tailor the camera to your needs, which makes using it much easier!
I have both of these cameras and you cannot compare them by using the same shutter speed or aperture, because they are so different in use, but at the same time they are equally good quality and you just have to learn to use them differently.
Have had all brands and formats where I started in 2003 with a Minolta, later I bought my first Olympus which is (because I still have it and use it) Olympus E3, after that I bought a Canon, then it was Nikon, and my next one after that was a Sony A7, before I bought the Olympus OM-D E M5 MII for street use, but I felt there was something missing with the E5 Mark II. Decided to buy the OM-D E M1 Mark III because it has extras that the E M5 Mark II does not have, at the same time I feel that the E M5 MII is a small and brilliant device because it does not look so fancy but more like an older camera and I love the little tough paw.
Of course we can compare them :) You can compare apples to oranges too if you want! :D J/K!
But you are 100% right. You just have to know your gear and learn to use it. If someone can't take a great photo with any gear... ;)
I would pick up Olympus between two kit . I keep my Olyumpus em1 mk3 as my (daily and landscape). I also have Nikon Z9 for portrait
Right? :D I would take my EM1.2 for a hike or street anytime over the Sony. But for portraits, where DOF matters, we need the Sony and the fast Samyang primes :)
Hold my lens cap. Good channel name! Really positive and engaging video
Awesome! Thank you!
The channel name was coming from one of our video where it was just a little joke on the spot but we liked it so much we changed the channel name to it :)
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If you're crazy about bokeh go for FF. But if you still want some detail in the background go for m4/3(OMDS)
Or if you want a system that's fun to shoot with and easy to carry around then go for M4/3 :)
I stopped after some minutes ….35mm f1.4 compared with a 17mm f1.7 . You could try a 35mm f1.8 on 42 /50 Mpx Sony vs a 17mm f1.2 20 Mpx Olympus.
The purpose of this video was not to 100% recreate the same with MFT as we have with FF and we told this straight in the beginning. We had two similar setup when it comes to equivalent focal length, but the point of trying the MFT was to see how a small system will stand up against the big and heavy setup. We had the 85mm f1.2 (even though we asked for the 85mm f1.8 originally), which was big and heavy in MFT standards, but have a look at the 35mm f1.4 vs 17mm f1.8, one is a big chunky glass and the other one is a pocketable beauty. :)
Great, thorough video; thankyou.
As a casual, amateur photographer the benefits of the Olympus and M4/3 system generally is obviously the size but all the cost of the bodies and lenses. I love the results they give for the layout. My used Em-1 mkii from MPB is killer as a travel system. One small bag gets the body and several lenses in. All that goes in my hand luggage taking up barely any room.
Another thing i found was the weather sealing is great. Whilst in Florida this Summer and going from 35 degrees plus outside then to intense aircon inside could cause issues for cameras. The Olympus handled it all with ease!
I heard the weather sealing on Olympus is great, but luckily did not had to test it :)
The small size of the Olympus gear is really a huge bonus, I could have several lenses with me and take as much space as one lens with my Sony :) Love it so much
And what about the Nokton 60mm 0.95 MFT ? I had already used the Nokton 42.5mm and the Olympus 75mm, but this exceeded my expectations! The colors, the bokeh, the quality of the sharpness at 0.95 (soft and poetic) and 2 ! Bokeh wasn't as good at 0.95 on the Nokton 42.5... At the moment, the weather is grey in France and when I pick up my children from school, it is already almost dark. But with the Nokton 60mm, 0.95, I was able to make beautiful portraits. And the 17mm 1.2 and the 45mm 1.2, the Summilux 12mm 1.4 and the new Summilux 9mm 1.7...
The Nokton sounds like an amazing lens, but for me it defeats one of the main joys of MFT, the small and light camera. But I would definitely love to try it one day ;)
@@holdmylenscap7241 No one dares to buy it! I don't know why... It's a shame. With the MFT, you can travel light but also take advantage of superb slightly larger lenses (but not as much as in Full Frame!). Double advantage!
Discovering your channel exactly what ff computing was looking for Sony vs olympus. now everything is clear to me.
Glad you found our little adventure useful :)
I ordered the m.zuiko 40-150mm f2.8 from MPB and I couldn't be happier! I too have a Canon 6D that I am using less and less due to using the EM5II. The Olympus is my go travel and hobby camera, while my Canon has been regulated to studio work.
I am sure you will enjoy that lens :)
This is probably the most useful comparison between formats I've seen, thanks. I got a little Lumix GF7 and pancake zoom from MPBa while back as a cheaper replacement for my premium compact camera and I've been so impressed with it I'm considering replacing my Sony A6000 system with a newer M43's body. Having rheumatoid arthritis the lure of even smaller, lighter lenses is extremely tempting, and the capability of these cameras is amazing.
I am pretty sure that one of the newer MFT bodies will easily compete with the A6K on image quality and will surpass it by far in features, so I believe that change would bring a lot of improvement for your joy of photography
@@holdmylenscap7241 Thanks! In the end I went for a 2nd hand Lumix GX80 as a day-to-day camera, but I'm holding onto my Sony and prime lenses for portraits for now. I'll make a more informed decision about whether or not to switch completely further down the line.
It is an unfair battle.............comparing Olympus to inferior Sony.
Well we tried to make Sony look good but even like that there is no chance against the little Olympus :)
Sony has horrible AF with adhd! 😂🤣
and you don’t have to mortgage your house to buy lenses.
Olympus all the way
One thing you can't criticise is the AF of Sony. That's just excellent
I use Canon full-frame RF and Olympus m43rds. For most shooting situations, I prefer to use my Olympus kit. It's just more fun and less hassle for me, and so the images I get are generally more to my liking. That said, there are times when I will elect to use the Canon as well. I enjoyed your video. It was an excellent comparison of the two systems. With practice and familiarity, you will probably find that you can get essentially identical results from both systems. All that said, I actually prefer the Sony colours in your video. This is something that I've found in the past as well. Many people will highlight Olympus and Canon for their colour fidelity, but I often find myself preferring Sony colours. No big deal, of course, since shooting raw means that nothing is baked in and you can tweak colours to your hearts content in post. It's just an observation that I have made on a number of occasions.
I like the Sony colours too, very neutral. I never liked Canon greens
if result does not bother you - keep shooting on m4/3
@@molecula2215 Who said results aren't important? I didn't. I have been shooting on many different formats from cell phones to medium format for a very long time. m4/3rds is capable of giving me every bit as good results as any other system.
You can believe all the hype, or you can work to your strengths and to the strengths of the gear you have in hand. There are times when even a tiny cell phone sensor will outperform a full frame sensor. You just need to understand when, where, and how to use it to best advantage. m43rds and 35mm formats are very very similar in what they have to offer, and in what they can do.
Anyway, it doesn't matter because I get great images from m43rds, and from full-frame. Whether people believe that of not is largely irrelevant.
Great video! Long time Olympus e-m1.2 user as well as Sony. I mainly use the Olympus for sports and personally photography and sometimes street. It’s a fantastic camera.
It is! compliments our Sony setup pretty much! :)
Lovely vibe guys :). Some awesome photos as well.
OM-1 has many nice features that the Sony a7r3 does not have, but the main statement that the MFT system is so much smaller and lighter is really no fair. If you take the lenses with twice the f number for FF comparing to MFT, the difference in size and weight will become negligible. Yes, this will force you to use 4 times higher ISO for the same shutter speed for FF, but this will give roughly equivalent image quality because there is about 2 stops difference in dynamic range and noise between FF and MFT. Also, the depth of field will be equivalent. So in FF system we still have the option to use relatively slow lenses and hike small and light, but we could also use faster lenses and get much better low light performance and subject isolation than in MFT system.
You are absolutely right, but... :) There are many options on MFT that would be just waaaay too big on FF (like the Olympus 100-400 vs Sony's 200-600, which we are planning to "compare" or the Laowa 7.5mm vs any 14-15mm on FF). But actually you are absolutely right, if you want a light setup with FF cameras you have some options too. The purpose of the video was to show that the MFT system is a very viable and capable option, but it does not mean that "FF is dead!" ;)
Just come across your channel. As you may gather by my name I’m totally sold into MFT after years of shooting FF as a pro.
I enjoyed your comparison and I’m not at all surprised by your findings. I’ve covered a load of MFT kit on my channel and still am amazed at the results I get.
I shall be looking at more of your videos as I enjoyed this one.
Brian “that Micro 4/3 Guy” James
Hi Brian, I am a long time subscriber of your channel and I'll be honest, your channel was one of the driving force that pushed me towards giving MFT, and especially Olympus a chance :)
So I am really honoured to see you here :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 I’m equally honoured that you watch my channel and that I’m now a subscriber of yours. I sat and watched the whole video which says a lot. Well done on great content. If there’s anything I can help with in the future don’t be afraid to get in touch. Email address in any of my video descriptions.
Brian
Congratulations team, beautiful video and very happy vibes 😊Olympus 75mm is one of the best lenses in digital era . Olympus was nuts not joining L mount . Olympus glass is up there with Leica,Hasselblad and Canon RF .
I hope OM-Systems won't join the L-Mount alliance because then I would be extremely tempted to sell all Sony gear and go OM-S :D Which means we will have to convince Samyang to join the L-Mount Alliance as Alyssa is their ambassador :)
Jokes aside, if OM-Systems joins the L-Mount and brings the OM-D technology to Full Frame I would be in trouble for sure :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 interesting.
I have said for years that Olympus would not even consider a larger format as it would go against the ethos started in the 60s & 70s with the Pen and OM1 film cameras for ultra compact cameras. However, Olympus, as a domestic camera manufacturer, are no more and it’s legacy is under new management and new direction with OMDS. So could they join into the larger Full Frame format? And if so with which mount?
It is so nice to see more fair reviews of the micro 4/3 system! It looks like you both had fun during testing. Thank you both for an honest and fair review!
Glad you enjoyed it! And yes we had lots of fun with the MFT system :)
Great comparison. Personally, I shoot with the Olympus OM-D E-M5 III when I travel and love it. Regarding bokeh, my understanding is that equivalency depends not only on focal length, but also aperture. At the same f-stop, the bokeh on the FF would be much better. To achieve equivalency, you would have to set the f-stop on the M43 camera to half that of the FF camera, something not always possible. That would also mean changing the ISO on the FF camera to 4x that of the M43 camera. With all that, you would achieve identical photographs, revealing the differences in sensor technology (e.g., BSI), lens characteristics, etc.
Exactly. The purpose of this video was not necessarily pixel peeping but more of an overall feeling and shooting experience with both systems.
I shoot with both a Fujifilm Xpro 2 and an Em5 ii. I actually downgraded from the Em1 ii because of the more compact size. I love both systems but each is better in different scenarios; I use the Fujifilm for street photography with a 23mm 2.0, 12mm 2.8 and a 50mm 2.0. While I use the Olympus for travel with both the 40-150 2.8 plus 1.4 teleconverter and the 12-40 2.8. I also carry the 25mm 1.8 when I want to be less conspicuous. I love how compact the Olympus zooms are, so that’s why I haven’t switched over completely to Fujifilm. Great episode. Thanks.
Fujifilm is the sexiest system out there :) I think they did it very well, having two completely different line up. The smaller APS-C and the "Pro-er than Full Frame" GFX line :) Also Panasonic with Full frame and MFT are a good combo. I think Sony should abandon the APS-C as right now it's really just a third leg.
Hi, nice video. It would have been nice to see the AF performance. How quickly both cameras can focus between a person and when you suddenly hold a product in front of the camera.
The Sony will wipe the floor with the Olympus. The generational difference between the two cameras is quite big, it would be fair-ish to compare the OM-1 with the A7RIII for that but not the EM1.3, for a fair comparison it should be the A7II for the EM1 series.
But the Olympus is not bad when it comes to single focus, but when it comes to tracking it is losing the subject fairly easily. Focusing speed is good and that's more lens dependent, and the accuracy seemed good too.
@@holdmylenscap7241 Not in those situations. Portraits of very cooperative models and landscapes of generally cooperative rock formations are far from demanding of any AF system.
I do wish you had slowed your shutter speeds with the E-M1 III (IDK Sony) a couple stops for the model shots. IBIS is amazing. Great video BTW!
Well, keep in mind this was our first shoots with the Olympus system, so we used it with Full Frame habits :D But I love to push any equipment to it's limits so I'll surely make the little Olympus sweat in the future! :P
This is my first time viewing your channel. I think that you produced an excellent, and very informative video presentation. I cannot wait to see more of your content. 😊
Welcome aboard! Unfortunately recently our time is consumed by the new member of the family so we took a little break :)
The Olympus 75mm lens is just a beautiful sharp lens with fabulous compression
26:08 can u share how the raw vs the final edited & how do u edit? 😊
We will do some tutorials on photo editing, and if you look up our previous videos there are a few tips there too ;)
I sold all my Sony gear as well and bought Olympus I don't think I'll ever go back also as far as noise in your photos topaz will magic remove the noise from your photograph it does an awesome job
True. Topaz DeNoise or Luminar's Noiseless AI is incredible when it comes to noise reduction. Also I don't think the difference between the Sony and Olympus files on high ISO are so much different. I honestly expected to have bigger difference, not just because the sensor size but because the FSI vs BSI sensor. I think the only time I've noticeable difference is the dynamic range. On Full Frame I can bring back a bit more from the highlights, but again the difference is marginal.
You are both incredibly likeable. I really enjoyed your video and little bit of banter.
I have various systems but on my trip back to the UK I’ll be bringing micro 43 because it and a good selection of lenses fit in my carryon luggage whereas the Sony gear simply won’t. Like you guys said, it does 90% of what full frame can do at a fraction of the weight and size.
Nothing beats M43 for travel :) If you are looking for a travel tripod have a look at the Ulanzi Zero Y or F38. Perfect match for M43
@@holdmylenscap7241 Thanks for the tip although I have a manfrotto Be free back in the UK. However part of the reason for choosing my OM1 is so that I can leave the tripod at home.
Ohhhh ! You went backwards? The OM-1 is above and beyond the mark II or Mark III . The hand held and tripod hi res works so much better. Faster. They also increased the ND stops. I've been a long time Olympus shooter, I like to see FF users try the system with an open mind and their reactions.
Yeah went backwards as for me the ProCapture was the feature I really wanted and right now the OM-1 is out of budget. And I am really happy with my MkII too :) But if I could I'd get the OM-1 for sure :)
Just picked up an MX1 for a steal! Very excited to jump into M4/3 photography!
I am sure you will enjoy :)
I saw the EM1X had some really good deals at Black Friday.
100% with you. Everyone claims FF bodies are getting smaller so the size argument is moot. It's really about the lenses. Physics is physics. You need more glass to bring in light to hit the bigger sensor.
I have FF, APS-C, and MFT. I grab MFT 95% of the time. Smallet, lighter, and more fun. Most folks view my photos on computers and cellphones, so I dont need maximum megapixels. Plus, those large FF pictures slow down my machine during post-processing and clog up my storage.
many years ago I saw an exhibition with A1 prints. From a Canon EOS 300D. They were amazing photos and if I watched from 30 centimetre far only then I could see some pixelation.
The Olympus is a beast no doubt. I love my G9 and I also love my EOS M series bodies (M, M200, M50 and M6 Mk2). MFT and APS-C are infinitely more comfortable to shoot with and with quality glass produce images on par and even superior to FF cameras.
and they won't break your bank or your back :)
22:45 The aeathetics of that 75mm f/1.8 are off the acale.
it is one of the most beautiful lenses out there :) And the results with it are great too. So sad we had to send it back :'( but it's on the top of our list to get one :P
In my opinion the Olympus 75mm F1.8 is one of the finest pieces of glass ever made.
I agree. It's in the top 3 on my shopping list :) It's a pleasure to use, to look at and is producing great images. What else a photographer could ask for? :D
Well, you used the Sony A7RIII which is a great Camera, I have Sony A7RIV and A7RIVA, so I have two Cameras, but many options ! With 61 megapixels you do not need to bring a lot of Lenses and you do not need aperture 1.4 for a 35mm Lens I have two 35mm Lenses which together are smaller and lighter than your 35mm 1.4, a Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar 35mm 2.8 and a Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 35mm 2.0 Aspherical, with 61 megapixels Cameras you can crop a lot if you need to and for Landscapes it is near perfect, though I dream of the new Fuji GFX 100 II. I use magnification for focusing, very easy and very precise. I never use a center column on a tripod !!! I have done Landscape photography since 1979, I do not think you need to have "everything" in focus, for 16 years I used a 6x6cm Hasselblad Camera, I had never problems with depth of field, it is all about what you decide you want to be the sharpest in a Landscape.
Nice comparison and review. I don't know either of you but the guy's accent is so similar to people here in Transylvania when they speak in English. Please tell!
Not far :) I am a Hungarian ;)
@@holdmylenscap7241 Szia! Well that explains it because most of my friends are Szeklers! 🙂.
Not camera related. Both of you have such sweet spirits. Nice job!
Thank you :)
Thank you for testing Olympus for more than just birds in flight for once lol
Only because I didn't have a lens for it! :P
Just discovered your channel. You guys are great!
Welcome aboard!
i have canon eos rp and 24 50 and 85 mm ef lenses. will u recommend me to switch to olympus ? if yes which model. i do portraits anx street
That's a question only you can answer. If you can try some of the Olympus cameras and see how it feels, how the files are for your taste. But since Olympus is a really affordable system, you can use it to not replace, but compliment your Canon setup. I have an Olympus EM-1 Mk2, and it's a terrific camera, even though it's old and now dirt cheap second hand, but I still have my Sony setup too.
M43 f1.4 is full frames f2.8
You can’t just compare them without double the aperture.
The aperture is a physical measurement, nothing to do with the sensor size. M43 f1.4 is f1.4, full frame f1.4 is f1.4 and large format f1.4 is f1.4 too.
@@holdmylenscap7241 The end result will be the same, the look (focal and DOF) will be the same between a 25mm f1.4 M43 and a 50mm f2.8 FF, the exposure will not be the same but bumping the ISO on the FF will give you the same result (without more noise). So, even if it's true f1.4 in M43 will give you the same light than f1.4 FF, there is no advantage for M43. We can't cheat with physic.
M43 strenght is IBIS, small lenses(for now) and rolling shutter.
@holdmylenscap7241 You are so wrong. As @aiseurnae5976 say, the result of a M43 25/1,4 will be the same as FF 50/2,8. A simple calculation is to take a M43 lens times two for focal length, depth of field and ISO. (ISO can very depending on generation and typ of sensor)