Just watched the video and it was very insightful indeed. I remember watching the show at the time and we were all appalled by his behaviour but I had no knowledge of narcissist behaviour then. With fresh eyes now it was so obvious, he is in your face with it, the unrepentant narcissist! you wonder how he got away with it for so long. I see narcissistic behaviour in a lot of people now, it's actually scary sometimes. I hope as a society we can be more aware of these behaviours and teach other on how to pick up on it. I also hope we can prevent the same mistakes being repeated to protect our children. Let's not raise another generation of narcissists.
I really really hated that Casey got so much of the blame for getting involved with him again after Jasmine left, completely overlooking that she was trapped with a very good manipulator who had already seduced her. It was nice to hear you point out that she's shows very kind empathetic traits. Again and again to separate from him peacefully, and even support him being happy with Jasmine despite being hurt. He just wouldn't let her go.
He IS two-faced. If you watch the "Fly By II" video, it's towards the end. I try to focus on Duncan and Antony mostly. He gave Duncan a dirty look when Duncan ad-libs "Hands high" and goes all over the camera. He's then like waving his arms trying to get into the camera but Antony moves a wee bit while raising his arm up while Duncan is clapping/raising his arms up and Simon just clapping in the last shot. And the "If You Come Back" video as well in the bridge.
Fascinating and insightful breakdown. Lee's behaviour reminds me of the popular Premier League footballer Jack Grealish when he's around women---you would have a lot to analyse and work with if you did a video on him👀🙏 Also, this is mere conjecture, but I think the Gorillaz character 2D might partially be a popstar parody based on Lee Ryan. Some striking similarities...
9:55 the look of that woman's face as Lee's chatting his creepy nonsense says it all. She's outwardly agreeing with him to placate, but she's got a disgusted disbelieving expression (that of course he doesn't notice), like "is this man for real?"
Well done!!! So well explained too! The smearing campaign was the most appealing for me as I have grown up with a narc mother. The smearing has made me isolated from everyone. I had no friends and even questioned my own sanity. Becoming a teenager I knew that this woman was coming from hell just to tear me down. I fought back and ruined her character by telling people what she was doing behind doors including the social worker. Those late-night adult movies that she loved watching thinking we did not know... Once I started speaking up about these "Tabou" to people and shaming her for behaviour she got quiet I also learnt to curse her badly. Recovery from those people takes time.
I'm sorry to hear that. Being abused is terrible enough, but then having everybody else believe that you are the problem makes it even worse. I hope you can heal moving forwards.
It's "Narcissus" by Caravaggio. There's actually some dispute over whether it was painted by Caravaggio himself or one of his students. I like it as a sort of analogy for a narcissist (something masquerading as the real thing but when you look closer, you start to see faults).
6:20 that scene looks uncomfortably close to lack of consent or assault. She doesn't seem into sharing physical intimacy with him, radiates discomfort and shock, and insists he leave the bed. If Lee hadn't got out of bed when she asked or carried on touching (and he almost didn't relent), it would be proof of SA on film.
Lee Ryan is openly bisexual, and has dated a few men publicly. Would be fascinated to know if he's ever tried to pull any of this bait-and-switch chicanery on other men? Or if he doesn't see men as weak or stupid or gullible like he does women. Or if he's afraid of backlash physical or otherwise from his own sex...
What "context"? The quote I mentioned is three hours into a four hour and twenty minute recording of Heard verbally abusing Depp and openly discussing inflicting non-reciprocal physical violence on him. A recording that was made with both Depp and Heard's full consent and knowledge, as part of an attempt to fix their relationship. A recording that was admitted (in full) to the court and was not disputed by either side. Depp is not a saint for sure. In fact, he's a selfish asshole in many ways. But as far as I can see - and I followed both trials in depth - he isn't an abuser.
@@thenarcissistwatcher hi there. Thank you for taking the time to reply to me. The rest of your video was really good. My only issue was the Amber statement I was… at the time, on Johnnys side too until I looked at the context behind the recordings. - I know the clip you are on about. If that was verbal abuse to you (which you are in your full right to think) then I’d hope you would see that he verbally abused her even more. He called her an “over the hill stripper” screamed at her so many times, called her a “stupid fuck” a “whore” he called her a “cunt” COUNTLESS times. Don’t forget the text where he advocated with Paul Bettany to burn and rape her corpse “to make sure she’s dead” in text. The man said the worst things to her. The worst amber said was a “baby” and a “washed up Piece of shit” (no where near as disgusting) - the “I hit you not punched you” dialogue sounds at face value like she was the aggressor. In the clip. It is revealed that Amber hit Johnny bc he pushed the door open scraping her toes (he even chastises her in the clip like “oh your poor toes). But the transcripts reveal that amber was apologising for the moment, and she explained that she hit him bc she felt physical pain, and she was SO USED to getting physical pain from him and not reacting, that she reacted in that moment. She takes more accountability (unnecessarily in my opinion) than he ever did. - I have to disagree with the argument that the clips were all in full. They were not. Johnnys ex attorney Adam Waldman leaked audio clips to TH-camrs (who he calls “internet journalists”)… one of those is allegedly Incredibly Average… now his videos are incredibly cut down. I’d highly recommend you look at “incredibly incredible” for the full context. - a psychiatrist who was friends with Johnnys Lawyer wrongfully diagnosed Amber with BPD and Histrionic Personality Disorder (something that was used years ago to misdiagnose women and make them look insane) within TWELVE HOURS of meeting her. Amber went to her own therapist for YEARS and he never once even mentioned BPD or HPD. - amber was screwed in the Fairfax trial, not bc she was guilty but bc she could not afford good lawyers, the court blocked almost all her evidence and dismissed them as “hearsay” (even though it was consistent with the timeline of her claims) they even forced her to tell the world she was sexually abused… (she asked for that not to be live on telly and they said no) - Johnny admitted to butting her in the forehead. He said that he participated in the violence and whenever Amber discussed the fact that he beat her, he did not argue back. I’m sorry but Amber was not a narcissist by any means… she was in an abusive environment and at times reacted to that. There is evidence of Johnny trashing her room, pulling her hair out of her scalp (there’s pictures), he was the one who edited the pictures and was inconsistent with the timeline. Johnny Depp is an abuser and he is a wife beater. He lost at the trial against The Sun for a reason (I do not like the Sun or Dan Wooton by any means, I don’t even think they had Ambers best interest at heart but they had the evidence against him) th-cam.com/video/B413cZ5-b7Y/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Just watched the video and it was very insightful indeed. I remember watching the show at the time and we were all appalled by his behaviour but I had no knowledge of narcissist behaviour then. With fresh eyes now it was so obvious, he is in your face with it, the unrepentant narcissist! you wonder how he got away with it for so long. I see narcissistic behaviour in a lot of people now, it's actually scary sometimes. I hope as a society we can be more aware of these behaviours and teach other on how to pick up on it. I also hope we can prevent the same mistakes being repeated to protect our children. Let's not raise another generation of narcissists.
I really really hated that Casey got so much of the blame for getting involved with him again after Jasmine left, completely overlooking that she was trapped with a very good manipulator who had already seduced her. It was nice to hear you point out that she's shows very kind empathetic traits. Again and again to separate from him peacefully, and even support him being happy with Jasmine despite being hurt. He just wouldn't let her go.
and to think he did all this on live tv makes it 100x more worrying. and of course recent events on a flight from glasgow....
I hope Lee has watched this. 'One love...' A million hate for you dude.
He IS two-faced. If you watch the "Fly By II" video, it's towards the end. I try to focus on Duncan and Antony mostly. He gave Duncan a dirty look when Duncan ad-libs "Hands high" and goes all over the camera. He's then like waving his arms trying to get into the camera but Antony moves a wee bit while raising his arm up while Duncan is clapping/raising his arms up and Simon just clapping in the last shot. And the "If You Come Back" video as well in the bridge.
29:55 cheered when Jasmine said that. Narcissistic men always glitch when they hit up against female solidarity.
Fascinating and insightful breakdown. Lee's behaviour reminds me of the popular Premier League footballer Jack Grealish when he's around women---you would have a lot to analyse and work with if you did a video on him👀🙏
Also, this is mere conjecture, but I think the Gorillaz character 2D might partially be a popstar parody based on Lee Ryan. Some striking similarities...
This was a great video! Very well put together and explained 👏
Thank you for the feedback!
Good work! Really forensic analysis. This character always made me feel slightly nauseous looking back...
9:55 the look of that woman's face as Lee's chatting his creepy nonsense says it all. She's outwardly agreeing with him to placate, but she's got a disgusted disbelieving expression (that of course he doesn't notice), like "is this man for real?"
This video needs more views for awareness
I agree. Just as aware as neurodiversity, so parents can see how they could be creating a monster when raising their children.
Well done!!! So well explained too! The smearing campaign was the most appealing for me as I have grown up with a narc mother. The smearing has made me isolated from everyone. I had no friends and even questioned my own sanity. Becoming a teenager I knew that this woman was coming from hell just to tear me down. I fought back and ruined her character by telling people what she was doing behind doors including the social worker. Those late-night adult movies that she loved watching thinking we did not know... Once I started speaking up about these "Tabou" to people and shaming her for behaviour she got quiet I also learnt to curse her badly. Recovery from those people takes time.
I'm sorry to hear that. Being abused is terrible enough, but then having everybody else believe that you are the problem makes it even worse. I hope you can heal moving forwards.
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@@thenarcissistwatcherexactly!
You are brilliant
Would Brian McFadden have been worse than him if Brian was in Celebrity Big Brother?
What’s the name of the painting you use in your videos? It’s terribly beautiful.
It's "Narcissus" by Caravaggio. There's actually some dispute over whether it was painted by Caravaggio himself or one of his students. I like it as a sort of analogy for a narcissist (something masquerading as the real thing but when you look closer, you start to see faults).
6:20 that scene looks uncomfortably close to lack of consent or assault. She doesn't seem into sharing physical intimacy with him, radiates discomfort and shock, and insists he leave the bed. If Lee hadn't got out of bed when she asked or carried on touching (and he almost didn't relent), it would be proof of SA on film.
he has a soulful voice but he's not a good man, its showing now as his age caught up . He will do anything to avoid true intimacy.
Yes, isn't it strange how such a seemingly empty person emotionally can sing like he does?
Do one of Mother Gothel from Tangled.
he is not a narcissist, he has aspergers autism. and he recently received this diagnosis
He’s terrible. And scary.
Lee Ryan is openly bisexual, and has dated a few men publicly. Would be fascinated to know if he's ever tried to pull any of this bait-and-switch chicanery on other men? Or if he doesn't see men as weak or stupid or gullible like he does women. Or if he's afraid of backlash physical or otherwise from his own sex...
Very manipulative man, extremely controlling individual.
Any girl should stay well away from him.
yes I have good intuition I don't always understand, but he always repulsed me
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kind of a shame that's the personality that's attached to such a pretty face and voice...
Agreed - he has a fantastic voice.
Yes is beautiful. Great singing breathe easy
This is why it's so easy to get hurt
He has a good voice but he is not a good ‘man’ 😒
My message to future parents: don't name your children "Lee".
I love the video but…
That Amber heard point was SO wrong. If you look into the evidence IN CONTEXT. Johnny was the narcissist.
Amber is bad but Johnny ain't a saint either.
@@goddessvibes08 no, I mean… amber wasn’t bad AT ALL. She was abused and the court blocked her evidence (in the US, not the UK)
@@emmacurran5259 can you share some links
What "context"? The quote I mentioned is three hours into a four hour and twenty minute recording of Heard verbally abusing Depp and openly discussing inflicting non-reciprocal physical violence on him. A recording that was made with both Depp and Heard's full consent and knowledge, as part of an attempt to fix their relationship. A recording that was admitted (in full) to the court and was not disputed by either side.
Depp is not a saint for sure. In fact, he's a selfish asshole in many ways. But as far as I can see - and I followed both trials in depth - he isn't an abuser.
@@thenarcissistwatcher hi there. Thank you for taking the time to reply to me. The rest of your video was really good. My only issue was the Amber statement
I was… at the time, on Johnnys side too until I looked at the context behind the recordings.
- I know the clip you are on about. If that was verbal abuse to you (which you are in your full right to think) then I’d hope you would see that he verbally abused her even more. He called her an “over the hill stripper” screamed at her so many times, called her a “stupid fuck” a “whore” he called her a “cunt” COUNTLESS times. Don’t forget the text where he advocated with Paul Bettany to burn and rape her corpse “to make sure she’s dead” in text. The man said the worst things to her. The worst amber said was a “baby” and a “washed up Piece of shit” (no where near as disgusting)
- the “I hit you not punched you” dialogue sounds at face value like she was the aggressor. In the clip. It is revealed that Amber hit Johnny bc he pushed the door open scraping her toes (he even chastises her in the clip like “oh your poor toes). But the transcripts reveal that amber was apologising for the moment, and she explained that she hit him bc she felt physical pain, and she was SO USED to getting physical pain from him and not reacting, that she reacted in that moment. She takes more accountability (unnecessarily in my opinion) than he ever did.
- I have to disagree with the argument that the clips were all in full. They were not. Johnnys ex attorney Adam Waldman leaked audio clips to TH-camrs (who he calls “internet journalists”)… one of those is allegedly Incredibly Average… now his videos are incredibly cut down. I’d highly recommend you look at “incredibly incredible” for the full context.
- a psychiatrist who was friends with Johnnys Lawyer wrongfully diagnosed Amber with BPD and Histrionic Personality Disorder (something that was used years ago to misdiagnose women and make them look insane) within TWELVE HOURS of meeting her. Amber went to her own therapist for YEARS and he never once even mentioned BPD or HPD.
- amber was screwed in the Fairfax trial, not bc she was guilty but bc she could not afford good lawyers, the court blocked almost all her evidence and dismissed them as “hearsay” (even though it was consistent with the timeline of her claims) they even forced her to tell the world she was sexually abused… (she asked for that not to be live on telly and they said no)
- Johnny admitted to butting her in the forehead. He said that he participated in the violence and whenever Amber discussed the fact that he beat her, he did not argue back.
I’m sorry but Amber was not a narcissist by any means… she was in an abusive environment and at times reacted to that. There is evidence of Johnny trashing her room, pulling her hair out of her scalp (there’s pictures), he was the one who edited the pictures and was inconsistent with the timeline.
Johnny Depp is an abuser and he is a wife beater. He lost at the trial against The Sun for a reason (I do not like the Sun or Dan Wooton by any means, I don’t even think they had Ambers best interest at heart but they had the evidence against him)
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Nah Lee Ryan ain’t a narc
What is he?
He definitely is.