That is not 55 that is a 25 dollar and if you use coupons 35% off after tax about 16.35 dollars and with cash back reward 30% this thing only cost about 11.45 dollars after tax. You compare a 11.45 dollars grinder to a tool 198 after tax 215.32dollars which price is 18.8 times higher price than that grinder
In mexico 110 usd. Beautiful piece of engineering Bosch. Not that crap Chinese one. Not worth throwing money to the garbage with the Chinese. I have used the Bosch for different metal cutting and is just beautiful piece of engineering. That’s it
It looks that definitelly that this "Chineese" version had fake battery, and this is the source of the problem. I wonder how this tool will behave with Bosch battery, cells replaced from Bosch. As one writhe here it has Brushless motor, so not sure if it can even go "better".
I have one of those chinese fakes. I confirm the weak point are the batteries: even the plastic of the battery itself melts because of the heat. I just rebuild the batteries (I have equipment for that) using 3xSony VTC5 and "fixing" the plastic and it's a complete new tool. Or course, it will never match the Bosch and I had to spend more money and effort, but now it is quite decent. Surprisingly powerfull brushless motor. I suggest you, if you want to eliminate the battery factor in your next videos, to test both machines with a car battery (giving the machine is 12V).
Yeah I was going to do that same thing, but sadly it failed before I could. Hoping to soon have a setup which can provide 12v so we can see the possible maximum power of the tools.
That’s an interesting idea, but very unrealistic. The reality is that 99% of the people that purchase the knock-off Chinese version will also be using the compatible garbage Chinese batteries. Something that *might* make more sense is to purchase a compatible battery for the Chinese mini grinder and see if the performance improves. Also, as an FYI on price, I nabbed the German-made Bosch mini grinder for $79 on an Amazon “Deal of the Day.” Since then, I’ve still seen it under $90 a bunch of times as well.
hi Marco! it appears you know what are you talking about so here is a question for you. can this cheap battery power tools become 'corded' tools just wiring them to a power adaptor? how do you know how many watts/amps you'd need? thanks mate~
@@rmentat If you can find a power supply that´s able to deliver enough current it´s possible to power the tool without battery, for these small 12V (10,8V) power tools a big LED power supply (somewhere around 200-300W I suppose) should work well enough.
Thank you for the video. I also bought mine for only 23 USD, it hasn't arrived yet, I plan to take it apart and fix the critical parts when it arrives. Fortunately, because of your effort, I already know in advance which part I need to pay more attention to. I would like to replace the battery with one in which the cells can be changed without any equipment, if I remember correctly I have seen one somewhere. The battery really limits its quality.
Looks like the Bosch cut the rebar faster than the Milwaukee cut-off tool you tested previously. And I was surprised to see a 3" grinding disc as the other brand tools don't offer those, hence they sell them as cut-off tools.
Yep and I actually have to retest the Bosch again, It was tested with a 3ah and 6ah. I did find it stranger the cut time was the same with both batteries. Come to find out the 6ah was defective. So the Bosch should do even better.
Lol. I've been using my harbor freight 4 inch wheels. I would use them on my regular grinder and replace them when they are about 3 inches when they can't reach anymore. It's crazy how the 3 inch wheels cost more than the 4 inch ones.
You should test that tool on external power supply. I think its pretty good, but battery cuts out too easy. If you replace cells it might work pretty good
You prefer the Bosch or the Milwaukee cut off? I’m looking for a cut off tool. I like the new dewalt one it’s a beast but I don’t have any dewalt batteries or charger. I only have Milwaukee ho m18 and ho m12 plus some Bosch 12v 3ah batteries for my dremel 8250. I purposely bought the Bosch over the dremel batteries so I can buy a 12v bosch tool if the time ever came. I wish Milwaukee made a gen 2 cut off by now along with a fuel rotary tool.
I personally like the Bosch better, both are similar in performance. But the Milwaukee also comes with the dust collector for tile work and the m12 platform is huge. That said I feel the switch and grip feel better on the Bosch.
I couldn't tell from the video: was the Chinese version actually a brushless motor? Anyway, very cool testing today. I bought into the Bosch 12V ecosystem a couple months ago because of the Dremel 8250. I also bought a couple of cheap Chinese batteries for the hell of it. They spin up my tools, but that's the extent of my testing so far since it took 2 months for them to come in the mail. I'll be sure to try a capacity test soon.
Yeah surprisingly it actually was brushless. Thanks! I will actually be testing the china batterys for bosch 12v next week. I started running the test on the load cell and currently the china version outperformed the OEM bosch.... So I ordered another OEM to see if the results are the same, currently waiting on that to arrive. The m12 vs china batterys will be this weekend.
I would probably go with the Makita, hopefully at some point we get better batteries for the 18v line. I tested the Makita in the latest cut off video.
For a brushless motor not need big switch. You need one smaler switch connected to the controller . 😅 Give it a 3ah battery and is good for little jobs 😊.
I have the exact same Chinese machine. It works for one and a half minutes before it's completely discharged 😂😂 A toy in a word. I don't recommend it. The battery of this Chinese is a big scam. I don't recommend it. 😅
Actually the problem with the fake tools was from the battery The quality of the battery follow fake tool are so bad in my country we just buy only the body machine the battery we remake it with compoment from china as long as the result is a little better but still not as powerfull as the brand tool Use for diy is still a good tool just don't push it too much
Bosch tools are made in China , Mexico , Germany , Malaysia, and Taiwan. Same factories, same country , different color plastic, cheaper battery. Saying the " Chinese fake " makes little sense.
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Engineers and design offices are based in Europe. Materials are carefully designed to be strong and efficient. Then it is assembled in China with the high-quality protocols of Bosch. Do not confuse with a 100% Chinese tool.
No need to be serious , it all depens on if you are are pro and make a living out of the tool or just a DIYer using it occasionally ,maybe only once or twice a year .
@@nidhincp298 I would say change the country to Germany 🇩🇪 on Amazon. They should have it in stock and be able to ship it to you. I normally do that for tools I can’t buy in the US, that way the customs 🛃 paperwork is done.
I’ve bought this Chinese version at £22. It came with a spare battery. I’m only using for very small jobs around house and vehicle. Rusty bolts etc.
Can it cut car body panels?
@@cutliss hi mate, it took a while getting through the rusty bolts, but with the right cutting disc I can’t see it being a problem.
That is not 55 that is a 25 dollar and if you use coupons 35% off after tax about 16.35 dollars and with cash back reward 30% this thing only cost about 11.45 dollars after tax.
You compare a 11.45 dollars grinder to a tool 198 after tax 215.32dollars which price is 18.8 times higher price than that grinder
the bosh tool is $70 without battery in south korea.
In mexico 110 usd. Beautiful piece of engineering Bosch. Not that crap Chinese one. Not worth throwing money to the garbage with the Chinese. I have used the Bosch for different metal cutting and is just beautiful piece of engineering. That’s it
Real words. Vids like this are scrap!
And you get 18 accus !!
Is it easy to open the battery on the Chinese one and replace the cells? I am fed up of charging for 3 hours and discharging in 5 minutes.
Sadly no it’s not easy, u would need a battery spot welder, soldering gun and the cells. At that point it’s better to buy a different one.
It looks that definitelly that this "Chineese" version had fake battery, and this is the source of the problem. I wonder how this tool will behave with Bosch battery, cells replaced from Bosch. As one writhe here it has Brushless motor, so not sure if it can even go "better".
I have one of those chinese fakes. I confirm the weak point are the batteries: even the plastic of the battery itself melts because of the heat. I just rebuild the batteries (I have equipment for that) using 3xSony VTC5 and "fixing" the plastic and it's a complete new tool. Or course, it will never match the Bosch and I had to spend more money and effort, but now it is quite decent. Surprisingly powerfull brushless motor. I suggest you, if you want to eliminate the battery factor in your next videos, to test both machines with a car battery (giving the machine is 12V).
Yeah I was going to do that same thing, but sadly it failed before I could. Hoping to soon have a setup which can provide 12v so we can see the possible maximum power of the tools.
That’s an interesting idea, but very unrealistic. The reality is that 99% of the people that purchase the knock-off Chinese version will also be using the compatible garbage Chinese batteries. Something that *might* make more sense is to purchase a compatible battery for the Chinese mini grinder and see if the performance improves.
Also, as an FYI on price, I nabbed the German-made Bosch mini grinder for $79 on an Amazon “Deal of the Day.” Since then, I’ve still seen it under $90 a bunch of times as well.
hi Marco! it appears you know what are you talking about so here is a question for you. can this cheap battery power tools become 'corded' tools just wiring them to a power adaptor? how do you know how many watts/amps you'd need? thanks mate~
@@rmentat If you can find a power supply that´s able to deliver enough current it´s possible to power the tool without battery, for these small 12V (10,8V) power tools a big LED power supply (somewhere around 200-300W I suppose) should work well enough.
Thank you for the video.
I also bought mine for only 23 USD, it hasn't arrived yet, I plan to take it apart and fix the critical parts when it arrives.
Fortunately, because of your effort, I already know in advance which part I need to pay more attention to.
I would like to replace the battery with one in which the cells can be changed without any equipment, if I remember correctly I have seen one somewhere.
The battery really limits its quality.
No problem, yeah that battery is sad, but it’s also tool and battery for 23.
Is possible to use the 12v adapter direct (soldering) withouth battery ? I want it for low impact work. Bosch is too much price.....THANKS
How do you lock the spindle on the china no name? I have one for small jobs, but can't find the lock😅
Just pull the red tab outwards while spinning the shaft and it should lock.
Looks like the Bosch cut the rebar faster than the Milwaukee cut-off tool you tested previously.
And I was surprised to see a 3" grinding disc as the other brand tools don't offer those, hence they sell them as cut-off tools.
Yep and I actually have to retest the Bosch again, It was tested with a 3ah and 6ah. I did find it stranger the cut time was the same with both batteries. Come to find out the 6ah was defective. So the Bosch should do even better.
Lol. I've been using my harbor freight 4 inch wheels. I would use them on my regular grinder and replace them when they are about 3 inches when they can't reach anymore. It's crazy how the 3 inch wheels cost more than the 4 inch ones.
Also I have ordered the Chinese version for about £19-00 in England as I am on a budget.
Really nice graph. Difference is 2000 which is not very high but the graph shows like china tool is 3 times slower...
Can I use this as a polisher?
You probably could, but it might be tricky to adapt.
Great Job! Your videos are just right!
I have the Chinese version and that sudden stop while cutting is a headache. Just the right video to see that Bosch doesn't have it. Thanks.
You should test that tool on external power supply. I think its pretty good, but battery cuts out too easy. If you replace cells it might work pretty good
That was the plan until it failed before I could do so.
I would have liked to see the same test done on the Bosch battery for comparison
Can switch batteries between Bosch and china ?
Sadly no, they are totally different in that area.
You prefer the Bosch or the Milwaukee cut off? I’m looking for a cut off tool. I like the new dewalt one it’s a beast but I don’t have any dewalt batteries or charger. I only have Milwaukee ho m18 and ho m12 plus some Bosch 12v 3ah batteries for my dremel 8250. I purposely bought the Bosch over the dremel batteries so I can buy a 12v bosch tool if the time ever came. I wish Milwaukee made a gen 2 cut off by now along with a fuel rotary tool.
I personally like the Bosch better, both are similar in performance. But the Milwaukee also comes with the dust collector for tile work and the m12 platform is huge. That said I feel the switch and grip feel better on the Bosch.
I couldn't tell from the video: was the Chinese version actually a brushless motor? Anyway, very cool testing today. I bought into the Bosch 12V ecosystem a couple months ago because of the Dremel 8250. I also bought a couple of cheap Chinese batteries for the hell of it. They spin up my tools, but that's the extent of my testing so far since it took 2 months for them to come in the mail. I'll be sure to try a capacity test soon.
Yeah surprisingly it actually was brushless. Thanks!
I will actually be testing the china batterys for bosch 12v next week. I started running the test on the load cell and currently the china version outperformed the OEM bosch.... So I ordered another OEM to see if the results are the same, currently waiting on that to arrive. The m12 vs china batterys will be this weekend.
what do you think of the makita dmc300 vs the bosch 12v one if i have batteries for both and they cost the same on amazon (118 euros)
I would probably go with the Makita, hopefully at some point we get better batteries for the 18v line. I tested the Makita in the latest cut off video.
does it cut through skin? trying to customize my cast so i can take it off for showers
Yeah I wouldn’t recommend using this, they make a special saw for cutting casts.
Of course it’ll cut skin, you’d be down to the bone in less than a second.
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Another great video as always!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
For a brushless motor not need big switch. You need one smaler switch connected to the controller . 😅 Give it a 3ah battery and is good for little jobs 😊.
I disassembled a fake and it was a disaster - with a brush motor (which explains why it works so loudly) and a simple switch with no electronics...
Yep real bad
thanks for the comparison
No problem, glad it helped!
I have the exact same Chinese machine. It works for one and a half minutes before it's completely discharged 😂😂
A toy in a word. I don't recommend it.
The battery of this Chinese is a big scam. I don't recommend it.
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Yeah its bad lol.
Actually the problem with the fake tools was from the battery
The quality of the battery follow fake tool are so bad in my country we just buy only the body machine the battery we remake it with compoment from china as long as the result is a little better but still not as powerfull as the brand tool
Use for diy is still a good tool just don't push it too much
Yeah the battery is defiantly really bad.
They should have made it compatible with Bosh batteries...
Right now, it seems that full size fake-Makita brushless grinder is much better choice.
Thank you for the video.
You save £60 for me ! Gratitude 🙏
Glad it helped!
please compare it to ingco
Sadly I don't see it available in the US, but it looks similar to the Worx of Bauer I have tested.
Bosch tools are made in China , Mexico , Germany , Malaysia, and Taiwan. Same factories, same country , different color plastic, cheaper battery. Saying the " Chinese fake " makes little sense.
Engineers and design offices are based in Europe. Materials are carefully designed to be strong and efficient. Then it is assembled in China with the high-quality protocols of Bosch.
Do not confuse with a 100% Chinese tool.
Bosch has one factory in Banglore, India. They make high quality tools, best in the market.
I like the Bosch have used it before
It's nice and compact.
Some one please do the modification for this cheap chinese tool . rewinding or something
I'm looking for a powerful one as today's prime day
Hopefully you went with the Bosch it was a good deal on prime day.
what would happen if you put Bosch Battery into that fake chinese thing and test again?
Bosch battery won’t fit in it, but before i could wire in a better battery the tool stoped working.
3 minute rate at only 5amps..... Yikes.
Buy quality its worth it,go to a reputable vendor or outlet
Yep
Made in China, cheap and works well. it can be modified and if you get bored you can throw it away without caring about the price
No need to be serious , it all depens on if you are are pro and make a living out of the tool or just a DIYer using it occasionally ,maybe only once or twice a year .
Thank you
No problem!
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@@nidhincp298 I would say change the country to Germany 🇩🇪 on Amazon. They should have it in stock and be able to ship it to you.
I normally do that for tools I can’t buy in the US, that way the customs 🛃 paperwork is done.
si ma c'è da dire che costa un 3° dei soldi... 🤫
100 euros vs 16 . I'm fine with the chinese
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Vídeo fake, tenho as duas e a da china funciona perfeitamente!!!!