The Best Reactions To BMW's New 2024 R1300GS!
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GS fanboy here, been on them since 2005. I’m 74 now so I’m happy sticking with my 2010 with nearly 100,000 trouble free miles. If I was 20 years younger I’d buy one in a second.
I love the old asymmetric headlights of the past but I guess it’s time for a change.
I've been to that hand in Chile!
No backlight switches, still. Maybe on the new RT next year...
This was an awesome video. There’s nothing I like better than hearing people’s thoughts about a new bike! Also,Mr Bob’s editing is fantastic. Whatever is being talked about in the video shows up on screen. Even if it’s just a passing reference to some other bike. As motorcycle enthusiasts,that’s like giving candy to a baby! It gives the entire video more body and keeps our eyes glued to the screen. I’m sure putting in all that extra stuff takes a lot of time and effort,but it definitely elevates the experience. Also liked learning that new word! So thanks, Motobob!
GS's fans must be gutted, cause 'i recognised you from miles away' factor is gone
I’m sure this one is still visible from space 😂
They’ll sell these things like hot cakes
Ha ha,exactly!
This is the new GS. Everyone is capable of identifying!
🤣🤣🤣
I prefer the previous model by a long shot. This new one looks like many other bikes, the previous model was very distinct and classy.
the old one looks horrible compared to this
I have the Bumblebee version and much prefer it but it is all personal taste.@@kloppskalli
Old one pretty bloated.
Which is why it was such a good travel machine. This one does not compete with The Multi Strada but gives up the GS appeal in my opinion. It also does nothing to improve its off-road capabilities hence the 19" front wheel. Just seems like the were trying to compete with Ducati and failed.@@pippipster6767
The only real complaint I have right now is the front and rear radar system. I wonder how much cost could be eliminated if this was made an option rather than standard. I don’t feel like I need it at all.
It is an option
Innovation package includes rear radar and front adaptive cruise control , you can add it or not , whatever you want
V85TT is hands down the best looking adv
Compared to the older GS I think this one is a massive improvement.
What do you mean
BTW dont fall for the radar cruise hype.... I had a 2021 Super ADV before my '23 Rallye, I tried the radar and promptly turned it off. Im not riding in between traffic locked to whatever is in front. Speed check on a slow car in front? Use your eyes, stay awake on the bike, radar is a gimmick I fell for once and will never again. Probably the reason I'm still riding is because my head is on a swivel, I look everywhere around me and I dont stay in traffic, I get clear. Radar? Nope.
In my opinion the new model has lost all the identity built over the years. Hopefully technically there is progress to compensate for the identity lost.
It will be the creation of a new identity, and it’s about time!
First off I’m a GS fan…. But I think the Africa Twin is a much better looking bike…
I think the GS has somehow lost its rugged looks with the latest version… if I was a GS diehard I would definitely be looking at a last off the line GS1250…. And also getting a ton of discount
they’ve made this bike look so much more agile-looking and less bulky. the 1250gs looked like a bird of prey that got so overweight it could no longer fly
Great job Bob. For my money I will take the 900GS. The 1300 is mostly purchased by tourers who ride the black track to some nice gravel roads. Touring on gravel. So here in OZ it's a tourer that can take you on gravel. Better economy on the 900 and soooooo much cheaper for just as wonderful an experience.
100%
Looks like a V-Strom. I think most GS users are going to buy an africa twin or a multistrada when they feel the need to change.
I saw the new -1300 Saturday in Alabama. All of my expectations were ground truthed! Amazing..
As with many others,
Too much Tech, Too much money, and your right about our interest rate’s
They had better produce the 1250 alongside, otherwise they will lose a lot of sales.
That bald spot when the windscreen goes up just bothers the heck out of me. But I do like the more stealthy look and hard lines from the side view. Love that.
I like the new headlights alot. Looks like the pax insignia. Futuristic looking
If you build out the Option 719, you can't get the Enduro Package (Crash Bars). That seems odd to me. Sooner or later you're going to drop it and it will land right on that beautiful Boxer engine.
I heard Starbuck's really likes the green 719 option and is coming out with commemorative crashbars with cupholders.
Great video Bob. Thank you. As a rider/ex racer with over 40 years of riding bikes have always been behind cars when it comes to technology. For me this was always a good thing as looking back to the late 80’s and 90’s people were frowned upon for riding a bike with ABS. These days the gap is closing and all I can say now is it’s better to have the technology even if you don’t ever use it.
Does not look like a GS, that’s for sure, looks like a Honda, KTM and Suzuki, only original thing they have made are the headlights which look terrible, you will notice them for sure, but I am not sure I would want to be the driver behind those lights 😂😂😂 When slimming a concept down, it probably is not easy to be that original in this segment but here I think BMW have shot themselves in the foot.
Very few of the GS’s were used for off road, they were mainly a touring machine for older riders, don’t see that demographic buy a lot of these, but maybe they will get younger buyers to become interested and more off road enthusiasts?
These are only my opinions, so don’t shoot me 😜
I love the lighter weight. I use cruise control, navigation, heated grips and AbS as tech. Anything else is not something I would really miss, maybe a fuel gauge lol.
“Best looking Suzuki” 😅
I like the new headlight. In general I like the look of the bike. Unfortunately or fortunately I added so many accessories and so much personal touch to my olive mat green 1200 ADV that I do not intend to replace it with new one.
2:36 LOL! It really does look exactly like a Honda NC750! If anything, the Honda looks much more off-road capable.
I hope the Adventure has the same panniers as the R1250 & F850/900GSA and not the horrible plastic ones and I dont like that there is no tail light, I've spoken to my local motrad and the R1300 GSA is coming out Q1 next year. Also I'm sure life of smokey said about this in his factory tour.
I like it ........... but how much is it actually lighter? If the weight is taken from stripped down base modal then you need to add back .....main stand, extra litre of fuel, rear rack, bigger screen, and thicker pillion seat. As for price, I think its good as you can get similar spec to old bike for same money.
I think this is the best looking adventure tourer right after the desert x
In my opinion they should have kept the older style tubular frame, glad its slimmed down though. Look forward to seeing at Motorcycle Live
My main gripe about this bike is that to get the tech I want-- Dynamic Suspension, Adaptive Height, Sport Suspension, Ride Modes Pro, Sport Brake-- BMW forces me to also get the Ride Assist, including the big ugly black bump on the front that ruins the look. In addition to the highly annoying lane assist, it introduces the potentially dangerous active braking. Guaranteed I'd have to turn all this off manually every ride, and that's a no-go for me, period.
Very nice video but because you are waiting for comments, here you are: its husquarna norden 1:43 (not nodren) and at 7:00 you are only talking about the two seat hights and not about the longer springs. As far as I know you can't have the automatic lowering with the sports suspension! I would have loved that.
Why, on the new 1300GS are the additional fog lights £390 on the base model, but cost £562 if you want to put them on the TE version ??? Check out the UK configurator
I like the Flux Capacitor headlight but the tail section looks too small for luggage
Liked hearing that the GS gas tank is aluminium. So sad that my first year R1200GS LC '13 has a (warped top) plastic tank that gives a whiff of gas when you really fill it and would hate to use the clip on tank bags secured by metal inserts in plastic.
Touring on dirt and sealed roads, I get 5L/100km on my Pan Am, 420km!
Urban/city riding 5.8L/100km, so down to 360km.
I’ve got a -17 gsa, gonna wait another year until it’s proven to work. A bit afraid of new gearbox, and some other things that could change after the first edition. My bike is ugly, but this one except for the headlights looks good. Probably want the adventure again. Mostly so I can ride longer without refuelling.
BMW does like using the first year for their customers to finish testing them.
Probably best to buy a R1250GS now. They’ve ironed out all the bugs and they’ll be discounting them.
This new one is the first GS I genuinely want to buy. So job done by the designers in bringing in new customers
I like the new headlight. Very distinctive. I’ll need to see the GSA when it’s released. I have the factory lowered 2021 GSA so the automatic lowering may resolve this.
Jeez, they really did style it like an NC750X. 2:38
The headlight, and the adaptive ride height are both huge to me. The current GS is just TOO tall for me. So this could be a way to get me back to the BMW line. I love the motor. One thing I have not seen is the leg length to the pegs. The R1200 was 3-4 inches too high. Caused knee cramps for me. My Tiger is nice and low, and allows for good standing position.
Finally. The lightest water cooled GS. I was tired of them getting heavier and heavier.
Brilliant video, as always you lay it out nicely - all the facts, stats , I am looking to upgrade from a tracer 9 gt, so will definitely test ride the new GS - I personally like the new looks, the more compact profile, the electronics/ aids , my other choice is the pikes peak v4 , so looking for ward to what I end up with next year
Holding on (for now) to my R12GSA Triple Black. Let's see what the adv version will look like and be like in 2024.
The beak looks like a 1991 Suzuki DR 800 ...
But I'm sure they've spent millions on "styling experts" ...
The new design is to appeal to a younger market, the older market boys like me won’t be buying bikes as much now they are getting older . Its was an old man’s bike ???? So I think they want to get into the younger generation. Self preservation I suppose.
Trouble with that is cost, when you consider what you could get for less in a sports bike.
The new Suzuki V Strom 😃
Honestly it looks really good. Its nothing new that whenever a radical change happens in an existing product, there are bound to be pushbacks, but these generally dies down in sometime. People hate change.
It looks much sharper, and leaner than before.
Yes the old one looked more mean and butch but this too still feels more butch compared to at least tiger 1200.
Also I feel if and when they launch the GSA with 29/30L fuel tank, it will regain its butch appearance to a great extent.
Love the look of both old and new models, if only had money to buy one :P
After following a BMW with brake/indicator lights in the same lamp, you can not and I mean not at all see the indicator when the rider is braking. How they got through type approval confuses me.
If it looks like an NC750 then it's already an upgrade. 😂 The GS was always a hideous bike to me.
No mention of the new luggage. I think it looks great.
Ugly? In comparison to previous, this is a beaut
looks more compact, i don't like the lights but overall it looks better than outgoing model
Every new GS is ugly. That is the way.
I just hate the lighting...the fact that the base version has the turn signals in the hand guards and the visual combination of the turn signals tied with the x-marks the spot head light makes it feel like I'm providing free advertisement for Walmart.
What no one seems to be concerned about is the engine? Does it still sound like a concrete mixer once it warms up??
This kinda taillight was there in some cruisers, but the NEW Royal Enfield Himalayan will also have it.
Great summary Bob
I think that most people like the new tech but the most vocal are those who don't and they still end up buying top spec tech bikes anyway , if you don't care about tech you have so many options of used affordable bikes no need to buy new in that case. Personally i prefer to have every assist that i can have and adjust my driving with it , a lot of people can brake better without ABS for example but in the crucial moment that you have milliseconds to react that's a whole different story and we all know great motorcyclists who are not longer alive due to that crucial moment.
Totally agree!
Now a days, I'm watching this channel. It is good to see various models, and Thank you..
I saw it in person this weekend and sat on it. I appreciate the lighter weight and sleeker design. The previous generation felt large and bulky. I will consider purchasing this bike after I test ride one.
So one problem is the high price. Which will only allow us older retired riders to own one. The bigger problem is, in my opinion, they will not sell or provide a service manual, which could help to make it more affordable over time. No one seems to talk about that.
I think it’s spot on and more versatile .. looks great !
It's the LE Velocette all over again. Where are the frame tubes? 😂
Not a good look for the GS. I was tempted to changed from my Tiger but not now.
At first glance in black it looked like StreetHawk from the 80s TV show 😁
I love the design but then again i do own a Honda NC750X.. But the GS looks even better in my opinion.
In so many ways it’s a new GS……but that headlight!! WTF were they thinking…..one of the most iconic features…..why not scrap it and make an X with a cyclops eye in the middle?!🤦🏻♂️ Oh dear…..
Personally I also prefer the Africa Twin and Norden for looks. Plus the Desert X - although haven't considered that personally. The new KTMs look awesome too. This BMW, like the last, is just a bit 'meh' in my opinion. It's functional, not really ugly but nothing really seems cohesive on these big BMs and hasn't for years. They look like a definate case of form following function. Not a bad strategy at all but both in equal measure would be better and that's what the other brands do. Heck, even the HD Pan America at least looks stylish, although a bit marmite. Come on BMW, add some design flair. It's been a while. Best thing about the design - the decal as on the green version...looks like a throwbak to the K1 which is, in my opinion, still an absolute stunner looks wise.
Just got to the Honda NC750 comment - spot on. There are a few bikes that look good on paper and not in the flesh - these models do fall into that catergory.
Agree!
We found the one person in the world who likes the looks of new KTMs! I like the looks of the Norden a lot, too, (Husqvarna's whole business model is now based on KTM's terrible looks) and if you have reliability concerns, remember you can just buy two and have change leftover vs. one optioned R1300GS.
The truth is that it is not ¨lighter¨ it is less heavy, BMW lovers love anything with the prop logo
GS 900 seems a closer approximation of the original Beemer GS motorcycles from the 80's - affordable and powerful enough. The GS 1300 seems like a garage queen for most.
Not ugly. Best looking GS since the Hexhead GS was released in 2004.
What kind of interest rates are people getting in the UK?
Big 😂 to the guy who said it looks like the new Katana. It looks pretty cool but the new Katana is a thing of beauty.
Just saw them at BMW Motorrad Days America and they look much better in person IMO.
no height adjustment on the standard seat.
I really like this bike. I held off ordering a Multistrada. Never even looked at the old bike. Old bike was a face only a select few could love
What will the GSA look like next year? I’m sure a more bulky appearance.
It will be interesting to see how it fairs to the old GS regards weather protection
I WOULD DEFINITELY GET ONE IN THE METALLIC GREEN ... thats sharp and AWESOME.... GREAT REVISION ❤❤❤
I thought I was looking at a GS310 initially with subtle changes around. THe *00 and 900 GS models do look dated though.
I’m concerned about deep river crossings, and navigating big rocky sections with that low exhaust! Turn signals in my hand guards? No, thanks..
I think all the adventure bikes look the same. The differences are so minor, you're just quibbling over tiny styling choices.
Side by side I think its profile closely resembles a Suzuki Vstrom.
Looks is of course a matter of personal preference. I like the new looks (despite obvious NC750X similarities) but indeed prefer the old headlights. What I find interesting and surprising are the comments missing the tube frame. BMW is finally modernizing the frame of this great motorcycle. Ducati and others have done the same. There are very good reasons for that... Let's evolve folks! The lack of Apple Carplay and Android Auto is inexcusable. Come on, BMW!
I have the Pan Am, I don't use all of the 150hp, that is just ridiculous on road, and fun :)
Africa Twin Adventure Sports in Tricolor is the best looking adventure bike on the market IMHO
I think it looks great. Kudos to BMW! They made almost all the improvements everyone wanted. Agree with others that we still need Apple car play compatibility especially since the phone adapter is crap. Wondering if those of us with soft luggage are going to be able to use it on this model. Glad to hear the shift assist is smoother now. That first to second shift is pretty rough on the 1250. Adventure model in the works?
I’m pretty disappointed they didn’t include a new TFT. Or maybe something that lets you customize the gauge cluster with a few different styles. Disappointed on no CarPlay too.
This GS is EXACTLY the reason I bought my 2023 Trophy GSA… Cagers are already distracted as it is NO TAIL LIGHT is a definite NO SALE for me… plus the stupidity of a dangerous Adaptive Cruise Control… I can’t wait how far they fd up the GSA… maybe they’ll show us in EICMA next month.
GSs we’re never about the power but torque so you can get out of a hairy situation in the wilderness… If one wants HP there’s a Duschcati and off course the ready to repair KTM 1290 R(now a 1390 coming out) to just show off and have reaaally deep pockets… BMW messed up on this one
If you want a bike for the wilderness, get a TW200
Now its an official street bike
well, I just saw one yesterday, nicely parked in front of a house, with the tricolor livery. It looked handsome, not sure what to say about that headlight though.
With 13.3 compression ratio. Does the bike need premium fuel? Which will be quite difficult for overlanders
Happy i bought the 2023 GSA Trophy instead of a copy of the Triumph Tiger
Looks amazing live, not to big not to small,.better ergonomy
I’m a fan, I want a road only version
How about a bigger headlight!?
So funny, as I'm watching this video you mention the Triumph Tiger Rally Pro which in my mind's eye I think that BMW made this new GS 1300 look more like the Tiger. Well done BMW, the Tiger is a handsome ADV machine!
I honestly thought it was the new 450 Himalayan in the thumbnail
So I checked out the configurator and managed to get the price above £28k including luggage. This is just silly, you can buy a lowish mileage Porsche with this amount of cash. Or 3 other new bikes. Do people really want to take bikes that are this expensive and risk trashing them off road? Overall I think BMW did a fantastic job though, it's improved in every way.
I agree with there bing too much tech. I don't want a bike with a quick shifter and too much TCS. I want a bike that feels like I need some skill to ride, then most of my riding for the last 40 years has been on old bikes like the Moto Guzzi Mark V (1989) and Lowrider Sport (1988) hotted up and most of the time with a sidecar. The Pan Am is the first modern bike I have had, and I love the rider modes, power, throttle, engine braking, ABS and suspension setting, but I mostly ride it with custom modes that are very raw, max power, minimal interferance.
It's clear they have leaned towards sport over other areas . The question is given their customer base, which is older people that find sports bike to uncomfortable, this is a smart move 🤔