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Interesting how Ariel seems to retain much of her sanity even after becoming infested. Feels like she attacked Raynor more out of resentment than her nature as a zombie.
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 es triste... pero la opcion correcta es la aniquilacion de los zerg de ese mundo y de los que cayeran ante la propagacion del virus no es que la mision esa sea matar a todos los refugiados ya que muchos se salvan pero no tendran donde recomenzar sus vidas en algun planeta libre y sobre la Dr Hanson Ariel bueno es un tema a discutir ya que ella ya estava infectada con el virus ya que en el planeta agria los zerg ya avian puesto nido hay mucho antes que enviara la ayuda en la radio... es posible que la doctora se aya topado con algun virus hay y la contrajo de algun modo.. ya que Tosh mismo dise que tiene un secreto que oculta en ella ya sea que se refiere que ya tenia el virus dentro de ella solo que nostros no supimos ni sabiamos incruso Jim... solo Matt Jorner pudo alertar que uno de los colonos o refugiados podria contraer el virus dentro pero esta fomenta que es imposible ya que todos estavan segun ella estan sanos a dicho sintomas
Lo'trek Orphanmaker Actually Arthas did what needed to be done and his teacher Uther chosed to do nothing. The same about Jaina. They just betrayed Arthas.
Jim's friends knew how virulent and dangerous the Hyper-evolutionary virus was. Meanwhile Uther and Jaina just decided to go like " The disease kills people and turns 'em into undead ? Fuck it, just let 'em live a happy little life, we'll kill 'em later ". Basically Arthas did what had to be done, and his mentor and girlfriend turned him down.
A character in Warcraft. Basically he discovered a disease that turns the infected in to Undead, and chose to slay 'em before that happen. His mentor and girlfriend criticized him for that.
I like how raynor simps to kerrigan to the point where he sides with the dominion and put all his raiders' life at hand just so he can slap that booty, he even mentions that he will stop his raid against mengsk for kerrigan alone
@@servo-skull9450 I get your sentiment, but damn, gotta hand it to him for being loyal to the bitter end, even though such loyalty costed lots of lives.
"If the protoss with all their tech, psyonics and big freakin' alien brains couldn't do anything for 'em, there is nothing we could've done". Oh, c'mon! Protoss can't even heal their units properly, whatcha talking about?!
@@deusex2005 There's a bunch of remarks in the Protoss research tree where they have all this advanced technology they could have done so much more with, but choose not to for some weird reason. That, or they are so set in their castes and old ways that remained unchanged for millenia that most of their creativity has been snuffed out by rules and taboos. Artanis seems to do away with much of that by the end of LotV, at least.
The protoss doesnt rely on healing because they believe in their tradition that is bound by the Khala. Once they die, they will be reborn again and again.
I honestly prefer this ending because it seems like the more logical scenario. The Zerg virus' key trait is it's ability to hyper adapt to virtually anything. I mean brood strains (leviathan) were even adapted for hyperspace. It just seems very optimistic to think that there would be a traditional "cure" for the infestation. Hell, it took an ancient Xel'Naga artifact just to mostly cleanse Kerrigan.
Keep in mind those xel naga got wiped out by the infant protoss and then the infant zerg, so they weren't all powerful. Not to mention Kerrigan was totally infested and had been for a long time. To be honest I was prepared to purify the protoss first and then cleanse the infestation later if Ariel failed, was pleasantly surprised when she (Spoiler Alert) actually succeeded.
@i hate anime Not so. They _mainly_ spread the virus through those means, but it's can also infect hosts via contaminated water supply. And yes, it's been specifically called a virus. Now admittedly I needed to look it up on account of having never truly played SC1 (yet), but from what I've seen he's right.
The protoss developed anti-zerg nanites to cure Stukov all the way back in StarCraft 64. He was only re-infested because Duran recaptured him and reinfested him in the Moebius Foundation
yeah but if she was infected and inside the Hyperion... will be logical that others in the ship get infected aswell, but it didnt, and that makes no sense, everytime was just one person infected and whole infestation started, what a concidence that here not.
@@rustkarl In truth Blizzard was originally commissioned by GW to create a Warhammer Game, but then GW scrapped the project and signed on with Relic. Blizzard had already made a good portion of the game and decided to push its release as its own company. This Release came out as Warcraft: Orcs vs. Humans. So Blizzard did take a lot of inspiration from Warhammer, so inspiration was more taken from one side than the other. Of course now GW are probably kicking themselves for releasing Blizzard like that (though less so now after that Diablo Immortal fiasco).
@@ballsofsalsa01 Selendis tested him to see if he have a will to protect the people of Fringe world, unlike Dominion. For Daelaam would know that Arcturus' Dominion is asshole who doesn't matter even if the fringe world gets r*ped by Zerg.
@@ballsofsalsa01 Why did she considered Zeratul a Traitor, despite he has fought for the Koprulu and Protoss? Zeratul was the finest swordsman of the Protoss.
This ending makes so much sense and adds the darker tone back into starcrafts story that was much needed after the cheesy bar room "mutiny" they hyped up when the campaign was teased. It also shows Jim is at least wrestling with the idea he may have to kill Kerrigan eventually.
@@keamu8580 LOL, that ending (based on the "helping Nova" scenario) is NOT canon. No way no how. Should have ended with him giving Raynor a piece of his mind and marching off to whatever he was doing before hooking up with Raynor, and regrouping the Specters. Anyway, I chose "help Tosh" from the get go. Felt it was the Raynor thing to do.
No easy way out. Tough moral choice, but given the situation putting those colonists out of their misery and sterilizing the colony is the only sensible path.
What irritated me is that it's always presented as a tough choice, but it isn't. If you side with Ariel then she comes up with a magic cure for the colonist and everyone lives, clearly a morally better choice. As for Tosh v. Nova, siding with Tosh reveals that Nova lied about the mental instability of the spectres, and together you can take down Mengsk. Siding with Nova, meanwhile, means that all the stuff you did for Tosh prior was pointless and you end up stabbing your ally in the back because your enemy told you to. I wish there were some more ambiguity to the choices. They could have made the bad choices give you more research points, for example, or they could have made Nova/the Protoss argue a more legitimate point.
I didn't find it to be that tough of a moral choice. Your choices are either: A. Hurt your relationship with the protoss to _maybe_ save a group of people who already had a 2nd chance. B. Don't take any risks and just end their misery. Personally, I'd rather have just let the protoss do all the dirty work (Hanson would maybe be more understanding that you don't want to piss them off, especially if she doesn't understand their power), but that would make the game boring.
It IS a tough choice. The Protoss are old friends of ours. They helped us out and we helped them out. So at first, it seems like the obvious choice. However... if "purification by fire" is the ONLY cure, then why haven't the Protoss won yet? The Zerg are just as powerful as ever if not more so. With all due respect for the Protoss, but maybe it's time to change tactics. The problem is that the immediate problem isn't fixable quickly. What I don't like is not the endings but that it made it one or the other. I would have liked to have made a compromise. Help the Protoss by eliminating out of control infestation while capturing some infested for Hanson to work on a cure.
@@chuchulainn9275 Old comment, but I shall pick up here: The Protoss HAVE been winning against the Zerg infestation. On any planet they see with a trace of it, they pull a WH40K and Exterminautaus that planet, obliterating all life. The issue is the size of the Protoss relative to the planets of Zerg. The Protoss can't be everywhere at once, and no doubt they infest planets as quickly as the Protoss can nuke the crap out of them. The world of Starcraft has always been that the Protoss are outnumbered, they are in no way going extinct, but their fight against Zerg is at minimum 20:1, and Terrans 5:1. Perhaps if the Terrans incorporated similar glassing technology on their ships like Battlecruisers, the Zerg virus could be eradicated, and after 5-10 years, Terraforming could bring the planet back.
@@Dragonspirit223 I'm sorry but 2 things. 1. The Protoss are NOT winning against the Zerg. In WOL, at the very beginning, Raynor tells Tychus, "They're still finding Zerg on Mar Sara despite the "purification" by the Protoss. Also, have you forgotten the Fall of Aiur? 2. The point you made the Zerg vastly outnumbering the Protoss only proves the fact that "purification by fire" is ineffective.
I went this route cause it just made more sense and Jim always goes on how he avoids fighting the protoss if he can avoid it and the protoss are like his bros and bros before hoes which is why I also sided with Tosh..
This dont make sense to Jim. He always try to help people. He doesn't give a fuck if he have to kill some assholes Protoss to save innocents civillians.
I chose Protoss because I was seriously pissed off. I knew that If I choose to side with Inconvenient Science Lady, the game would somehow be able to make her actually do it... Actually create a cure to the FREAKING ZERG VIRUS. How ludicrous is that? Protoss, with several years experimenting, researching and analyzing of said virus couldn't do it. The best scientists of the Terrans couldn't do it. Hell, I suspect even Kerrigan/Abathur can't UNinfest someone. Suddenly this lady from a random ass planet of farmers that had no contact with Zerg is able to do it effortlessly out of the blue? Give me a break. And there was enough time to conduct this research, ever since a command center was first infested on SC1, to the present time of the Haven crisis. Can you imagine the ripple effect that a cure to the Zerg virus would have? How many Terran worlds would be saved because of that? It would be a complete shift in the balance of power. You might say "Oh, but Zerg would adapt to the cure or create a new virus" and for that I say, the speed of Zerg adaptability is much much MUCH faster then what you suggest. The moment the cure entered the bloodstream and killed the first Zerg virus, the virus would start adapting to it. If Inconvenient Science Lady was able to bypass that fact with her cure, I'm afraid her's would be a completely unstoppable cure. As for creating a new Virus... Thousands of worlds would have to be re-infected, but this time, the populace would be ready, trying to avoid infection armed with previous knowledge and experience on dealing with Zerg Virus Outbreaks. Giving Terran forces time to set up bunkers is the one thing you shouldn't do, ever. In the campaign, we killed hundreds of Infected with 6 bunkers of firebats and marines, a couple of missile turrets and a squad of hellions. These are extremely cheap to acquire. Siding with Inconvenient Science Lady expecting a cure while having to hold back the Protoss AND infected at the same time is also really stupid from Raynor. Losing favor with a race that's all about honor 'n shit for the life of some terrans while expecting a random ass lady to be able to develop a cure for the ZERG VIRUS. Raynor could very well fail this and get pinched between Zerg and Protoss, waiting for lady to do her thing which, realistically, she wouldn't. So he would leave the planet with a kicked butt, saving no one, losing favor with Protoss, losing minerals and manpower. I suppose at least he would tap that booty. ------------------ Compare it with the Protoss option. The Protoss know that the Zerg Virus is an absolutely massive threat, and have been conducting mass bombardments on Zerg ever since SC1. Protoss have a rich culture dedicated to honor in battle yet for this particular kind of enemy, they decide to do long range bombardments and prevent close combat battle with such enemy. This isn't a standard zombie outbreak, it's something even Protoss can be afraid of. It makes sense to start purging shit up believing no other race is able to do it as efficiently. Raynor was equipped with something that the Protoss didn't knew, which was the fact that the colony was set up not a long time ago so there was still room for survivors, the infection hadn't gotten out of hand yet, there was still time to save some of the uninfected. This is represented by the fact that the Zerg were still setting up Virophages to quick-start the infection process within the colony. So he bargained with the Protoss and, in exchange for being able to save some of the uninfected, he would conduct the purge himself. Masterfully removing the Virophages before they could do stuff to the colonists, Raynor charged on with a large fleet of Vikings and ground troops to assault the hive clusters, removing the cancerous tumors from the colony and preventing full infestation, the cancer was still there sure, and Haven would have to be evacuated, but seeing all these benefits, I'd say that this was a pretty good deal. Raynor not only saved a bunch of colonists through this but also was able to remove critical Zerg structures AS WELL as remaining on good terms with an Executor from the Protoss. I don't know what the hell was Inconvenient Science Lady expecting from Raynor, you know, the man who went out of his way to save her stupid colony 2 times, no less. He was not going to do a massive genocide. It's not like Raynor didn't care about them and not like he wouldn't try to save as many as he could, which he did masterfully. And Science Lady should have expected that from the guy who, you know, was an absolute veteran with Zerg battles and had an army. (How can someone THIS stupid be able to cure the Zerg Virus is beyond me) Then she goes with this "Killing my children" crap. Hmmm, Lady, he killed infected and Zerg. This is not your standard zombie outbreak, but it is a Zombie outbreak and there's nothing we can do for those who are transformed and have tentacles coming out of their skulls. And that's why you'll die as well. ------------------- In the end, I'm glad Inconvenient Science Lady died, there's always better booty somewhere else. I didn't know why she was on the Hyperion in the first place. R.I.P in peace Inconvenient Science Lady, you will Inconvenience no one anymore.
First time I played this game, this was the choice I made. Because I get that the doctor was trying to help, but I thought that saving the infected would come bite the terrans in the ass in the long run. I mean, reverse engineering an infested human to be cured is next to impossible. And I was proven right at the final mission, cuz it literally to 3 ancient Xel Naga artifacts to "cure" Kerrigan from her infestation (and even then, she still had Zerg cells in her even tho she was back to being a human)
It dosent matter which you choose since realty warps itself around jim to make him always right, he would make a good telltale games character that way
It was possible to cure normal zerg infestation back in the first StarCraft. The N64 had an extra mission where you saved an infested Stukov and cured him using protoss anti-zerg nanites. He was then given to the Moebius Company to further research this cure. Sadly, the Moebius Company is run by Dr. Narud. Who is actually Duran (duh) and re-infested Stukov and made sure this time he couldn't be cured. That's why Abathur said that Stukov is not a normal infested terran, that his dna is a mix of terran and zerg in such a microscopic level that even he couldn't replicate it. Stukov is more infested than the first Queen of Blades was.
@@EteamProductions Issue with that: As far as we know, Secret Missions are not full Cannon, and more Fan-service. In the Starcraft Broodwar, Zeratul spotted the original Hybrids, and Dr. Narud (Was he Duran at that time? The guy has, like, 3-4 personalities). However, when he spotted the Hybrid in the Protoss Missions, he claimed 'who could have created such an abomination', even though he already spotted the creator. In the WoL secret mission, Raynor sees Mobius working on a invulnerable Hybrid, however he NEVER SPEAKS OF IT AGAIN. No conversation about it to Valarian (as far as I know at least), no speaking of it if such a thing is possible to other people (other than the usual conversations, but THOSE never go anywhere either). My point is this: The games have Secret Missions, however they don't ever get confirmation as they aren't referenced outside of their own game (if, I don't know, Zeratul showed up at ANY TIME WITHIN THE 4 YEARS BETWEEN BW AND WOL AND JUST SAID "Hey, friend Raynor, just letting you know, I saw some Zerg/Protoss Hybrids the other day, just warning you, could be pretty powerful." THEN WE COUKD CALL IT OFFICIAL CANNON. I suppose him 'searching the stars' for his other Hybrids could be a reference, but he never directly references his findings anywhere, same with Jimmy Raynor, who almost dies to the Hybrids, but other than a few statements here and there, nothing cones out of it.) My point is this: I haven't seen much evidence that the Secret Missions affect the main story, mostly because not everyone could get to it, and leaving some players wondering 'Hey, why are they referencing this thing that happened last game? I don't remember that?' And so they are more of a reward for exploring, and give a bit more information, but never lead anywhere. Because of this, I personally don't consider the Secret Missions Cannon. Ever heard of Shrodingsrs Cat? It's kinda like that, they could or could not exist, depending on what the player does, if they Beat the mission within 25 minutes, Zeratul learns about Hybrid. If not? Oh well, you did miss out on a tiny bit of lore, but not much else. Effectively what I'm saying is this: The Anti-Zerg Nanites could exist, but they could also not. And because they don't mass use this after 4 years of it existing, I'd lean towards it either being a one time gig, too expensive to mass produce it, or Selendis (the right hand of Artanis) for some reason doesn't have access to it.
@@Dragonspirit223 Stukov literally references his relationship to Duran and the things he did to him on the last missions of the SC2 prologue. They're canon. Horribly written, sure, but canon.
@@EteamProductions I believe that was him talking about infesting and experimenting on him, but it's been forever since I played the Epilogue I could be wrong (I assume Epilogue because, as far as I'm aware at least, there's no Prologue)
A lot of people here are saying this ending feels like the more realistic, and better written outcome of the Haven missions. On that I agree. One point I notice not being talked about though is Ariel's supposed miraculous victory in the other ending. Everything is cured, everything is fine, not a single infested shows up (a sharp contrast from 99% infested Ariel in this ending), and then she tried to get Jim to stay and afterwards is never heard from again. Even the UNN broadcast is from one of what is reported as several worlds that have been settled. It's perfect... too perfect. To me it reeks of a lie. Ariel didn't find a cure, by the time the mission select screen comes up she's already gone. She convinced Raynor to chase off the Protoss, and now the planet is hers to infest at her leisure. To me, this isn't just the better written ending. It is the better ending, the one that actually saves lives.
On 7:51 it actually shows us that she injected herself with a virus to test the vaccine, and... it partially worked - she saves her mind (DNA mutation locked)
Well I always found it stupid that dr.ariel an Simple doctor representing an colony could find a cure for zerg infestation while Dominion researcher can't find a cure while having the best tech they can get for it I always went with protoss of purification with fire while yes the save colony after mission is good since it's makes the dominion weaker and more colony's become independent but they are technically exposing themself to more dangerous treat from like Tal'darim or zergs
They didn't stay in Haven, they left the planet and found another one, Ariel didn't cure the virus, she just had more time to keep working on a cure (one she may never find) and quarantined the infected with armed guards. She fell in love with Jim while working for him as a scientific assistant even testing and analyzing the materials Jim and Tosh were collecting even when Jim didn't ask her to, Tychus mentions that he realized that Ariel was attracted to Jim and tells him in a sarcastic way. In the event that Ariel has always been some kind of Zerg Queen, it only occurs to me that she was an experiment by Dr Narud but that would make more sense if Ariel had worked at some point in her career at the Moebius Foundation or if they had crossed paths at some point, and it would make little sense that the Zerg would attack Agria, and Ariel was asking for help, if i had to guess i'll say that Ariel have some kind of artefacto than atracts Zerg and she keep it as a secred
I sided with Selendis because I didn't want to tarnish Raynor's relationship with the protoss, and, because all the odds were stacked against Hanson. Her people were saved multiple times and she still had no definitive proof of saving them. When you pick the other option, technically, you never actually find out if she discovered a cure, and to my knowledge you don't gain anything in the long run. So I wasn't really upset choosing Selendis.
Dang, huge credit to SC2, I knew Selendis was right, but I still made the choice to fight the Protoss here. Like, he wanted to protect and run away with the one-time Queen of Blades, for goodness sake. But dang, making the tough choice, doing it himself rather than the Protoss, it's also so good. One of my favorite SC moments.
THIS was the Starcraft 2 I wanted. It's long, full of story, and with multiple choices. Then people whined on the forums that the game was too long, and we got the abominations that came after...ugh.
So....you wanted a campaign where zerg infest people making them act like zombies, burn in the sun like vampires and mutate like some resident evil creatures? No thanks, I prefer a sci-fi campaign that SC1 was. it wasnt flawless but atleast it was believable. Without prophecies, very ancient enemies and Kerrigan being transformed in each campaign.
nice bullshit. Wings of liberty opened a lot of side stories that were totally pointless for the story. I'm glad that HotS and LotV are more epic and plot-based.
Lets change this a bit: Jim Ray-nor: "Okay call off your fleet Selendis, this is a Terran thing" Hanson: "What This isn't right!" Selendis: "Very well" cuts monitor Raynor: "Okay... yeah we're not fucking doing that, Hanson do your work, I can't believe they fell for that... lets take our time about this. Hey, Matt blow up a quillgore herd or something, so it looks like we're busy to buy us a few more hours"
I've played the single player campaign tons of times, but I can never get myself to choose this option or side with Nova. Why I care about the fate of virtual characters I haven't a clue, but I can never get myself to do it.
This is why I can't stand with the Stormcloaks in Skyrim. Because in order to do so I have to betray Jarl Balgruuf, the first Nord jarl who welcomes and honors the Dragonborn and helps you find your feet in Skyrim and is just generally nice to you, and make him homeless. I can't be that callous to the man. I owe him too much.
I sided with nova the first time bc I legit thought Tosh was gonna stab me in the back at mission end. After I found out he becomes a crew member, I started siding with him.
I prefer this option as really it makes no sense that the infestation just magically vanishes if you chose to fight the protoss instead and it would make more sense for Raynor to want to burn out the infestation in place of the protoss as he can save survivors while the protoss would burn indiscriminately and there just isn't time for Ariel to find a cure for the zerg infestation, if it weren't for the janky gameplay 'concession' by time Jim was done fending off the protoss and Ariel finished her research for better or worse the infestation would have consumed the whole colony. Bad writing by blizzard really, poorly done.
I felt the Exact same way about the choices. the good ending even made me go "What??" a little when jim doesn't even feel bad about killing so many protoss. I thought he got along with them and sort of liked them. honorable fight or not the good ending has you kill at least about 80 protoss.
Yeah during the Brood War campaign Fenix became a close friend on the battlefield, in fact his only friend really since Artanis wasn't really certain of Raynor's mettle until near the end and he learned to understand and respect the Protoss and those that got to know him did the same for humans. Even before then Tassadar took him under his wing in a sense when Kerrigan and her Cerebrate care-taker stranded his forces when they came to witness her initial rebirth into the swarm, rescuing them from Char with the aid of the Dark Templar and taking him on as an ally in the final strike against the Overmind, in effect Raynor and Horner owe their life to Tassadar, Zeratul and their respective Templars. Apparently this is all meaningless to him though since killing hundreds of Protoss to save a bunch of zerg-infested dirt-farmers is wurth.
Raynor did take part in the Stukov missions on the N64, and as far as I can tell, they are considered canon (Though details appear to have been retconned, and Narud had Stukov reinfested afterwards). So he is aware of the fact that infestation can be cured, as are the Protoss, but he should also be aware that the Zerg are also capable of evolving strains that are resistant to, or immune to cures almost as quickly as they are developed. What we see in the choice to spare the colonists is Raynor pitting his optimism in Ariel's ability to save this particular Colony vs the Protoss view that ultimately the pursuit of a cure is a futile endeavor.
One of the genius strokes of this game is how it respects the player enough to show how either choice is, or could be justified given ambiguous circumstances. Having played games where the writers clearly favor one choice to the point of implying that the player is dumb for thinking differently, this was a refreshing choice that made alternate play throughs both interesting and gratifying.
this was such better ending than ridciulous idealistic romantic alternative ending. alternative romantic 'cheesy' cure ending is ridiculous considering Stsrcraft lore has made it clear there isn't any cure zerg infestation of Terran, so why would allof s sudden one scientist or Dr on a backward planet suddenly out of the blue find a magical cure
minibeast21 well, given that Dominion only tried to weaponize zerg, not cure them... Plus not every major breakthrough was made by some large group of scientists or big research center.
I have to agree with getting the protoss booty. And yeah, if there ever was a true cure for the zerg infestation then they would have found it already, remember there are millions and millions of cientists researching that and... well, I am pretty sure this is the "real" ending to that mission.
Taz'dingo literally just means "Victory" in Zandali or whatever the fuck. And I'm like 99% sure all trolls speak Zandali so ya know. Your comment is dumb.
Every time I see sc2, its so nostalgic. After 14 years, we didn't get anything better. On the other hand, it's very good, the story should end. Don't need endless sequels.
i kept that mission 2nd to last because i wanted to see her comments on every other mission. So i choose the happy ending. Also the correct choice ultimately is to side with the spector not with nova. Nova fucks you at heart of the sworm anyways
@@oniuserjh oh helping Ariel is canon? Than what happens after? does she find a cure and saves everybody? If so the one hots mission makes 0 sense... I always thought Selendis must be canon
@@serenityscall6658 I know this is 10 months old, but yes, helping is canon, but she fails, later you see that haven is firmly in zergs hands, so 2 options, o she failed, or zergs invaded again, anyway they are all dead, with Selendis you at least can save a part of the population.
She probably infected herself in a desperate bid to experiment on herself to find a cure, figuring that it's a good thing no matter if she succeed or if she dies and make raynor feels guilty about it. Gotta say she is gutsy though. raynor got all the gutsy girls attraction!
On the one hand, I prefer the classic grittiness of this version. It reminds me of Starcraft 1 and broodwar. On the other hand, I don't like the writing for Jim here. "If there was a cure, you would have found it by now." Um, no, it doesn't work like that, Jim. Science doesn't run on your schedule. Ideologically, I would be in favor of studying the zerg virus. Terrans weren't founded by men who say "impossible." You never know what might happen in science. But the science wasn't exactly in their favor either. On a practical level, it looked like they were WAAAY in over their heads, ironically contrary to what we see in Safe Haven. It would have been easier to swallow Dr. Hansen's promises if we had some real results to look at, otherwise why are we defending people who are already growing tentacles out of their faces? I don't know whether reality retroactively adjusts to whatever Jim chooses, or his decision itself causes the two missions to be different. Like, were the zerg laying low because they wanted help from Jim, and only let loose when they saw he was going to kill them? Or does the game just make whatever decision you make the correct one, so if you side with Selendis, good call! Those zerg would have screwed you if you if you sided with Hansen. Or if you side with Hansen, good call! We got these zerg contained nice and tight, so no reason to kill them when there's any chance to save them! I'll put more thoughts on the other mission in that video.
Michael McCarty the Protoss are highly advanced, more advanced than the terrans by centuries. if they themselves couldn't find a cure, how could the terrans?
They couldn't find the cure because there was no need for it. There was no Infected protoss for centuries until terran appears then infected terran soon follow. Beside Terran and Protoss are biologically different, little chance for protoss to find a cure on terran or even if they care to.
Exactly. Hell Terran science on zerg infection is probably more advanced than the Protoss if only because the Protoss can't be infected by the zerg, merely play host to parasites. So since that's not a threat to them, they likely exerted their advances in other fields. So here, Selendis is outright wrong. Plus, she's templar, somehow doubt she's kept up with the advances of the Khalai since the Protoss are kinda arrogant that way.
actually no cure is much more realistic come to think of it Imagine: if zerg actually dominating brain cells they can leave a unrepairable dmg that will do nothing but say "I serve" without their host... not walking, not moving, not thinking... it is possible I mean even if you can kill all zerg in host body as cure you wont turn it back... wich makes much more sense. Yea I hate this ending but this one is more realistic... even if zerg not doing what I said then first that about to get cured will send a signal that saying "they purging me from body!" others will kill brain of their host to trade 1/1
I mean, Selendis is voiced by Cree Summer, the voice of Penny from Inspector Gadget and a ton of other characters from my childhood. How could I *not* side with her?
Considering Stukov in co-op, the 2 newest co-op maps, and the lack of guarantee in the other route even if there was more time to "find a cure", there is more than just game-related reasons to pick this version. (game-related: finish all research early by getting protoss points since you start the game with 3 zerg points already; you don't need zerg research)
Keep in mind we don't kill everybody, just kill the infested who pretty much beg to be killed and the Zerg. We cut our losses and kill the rest. Protoss are too much trigger happy with purification, now if this was not Selendis but Tassadar - he got similar orders to purify the Terran worlds but refused, because exterminating everything with extreme prejudice was dishonorable to him. He was a true hero.
Weird. I just played this game for the first time and chose the save option so I came here to check the other one. Seems weird gameplay wise not to have some infected colonist on the save option. The way the Protos made it sound to me was "they have a tiny bit of zerg infection so we must purge them" but then right here they're super fully infected.
the game basically treats it as if you are right whichever option you pick. If you say that you have to purge the colony, the doctor fails to find the cure, becomes infected herself while trying, and the colonies are only saved from being overrun by zerg by your quick action. If you say you can find a cure, then loe and behold, the infection takes a long time, you find a cure, and none of the colonists end up eaten by hydralisks.
Since 2010 I always wonder does that means Hanson was infested in the other timeline making Jim guilty of letting the infestation spreads through other planets?
the game just treats it as if you did the right thing either way. If you pick to purge the colony, Hanson failed and couldnt find a cure, and you did the right thing since otherwise they all would have been infested. If you pick to protect the colony, hanson succedes and the infestation isnt nearly as dangerous. Its not a direct result of your actions, the story just takes a different turn to make sure you're justified either way.
So Ariel was desperate to make the cure because of what Jim chose so she hastily injected herself to see if it works. Either that or she decided to suicide not being able to handle the death of her people. Maybe both. Ironic, the supposed logical scientist became the emotional.
Keep in mind Protoss is zealous radical when it comes to something which spread really fast despite far advance technology they got Selendis on the other hand in the same Protoss order which Artanis in so she wouldn’t mind fighting Raynor but rather think that as her test for valour
Kian Najmechi Well, either I misunderstood you or you misunderstood me. Your choice really matter: if you chose to help colonists - Ariel will live, if you purify the colony - Ariel dies by your hand.
CJake3 Oh thats true if you look at it that way, but on one hand, what if you chose to help the colonists and you ended up sending an infected ariel to a world where she ends up raising an army after deceiving you, which is why i asked "so wait if you decide to save the colonists, is she infected no matter what?
I just realized that Ariel most likely has the same voice actor as Liara T'soni from the Mass Effect series... No wonder her voice felt familiar when I played the campaign recently.
Honestly, they should have just left out Infected Ariel talking. Takes away a good part of the horror aspect of infestation when she's blathering about children we've never heard of before.
The Story of Starcraft may be sucking me in to the point where I have to play the game. Blizz knew what they were doing slinging money at these cutscenes ... that is what these are right? Because it feels like a movie.
Kerrigan is a special case. She’s not just infested, her DNA has been spliced to make her both 100% terran and 100% zerg. Unlike regular infested, she’s not just being controlled by a zerg parasite, she IS zerg. Which makes the artifact even more bs because it would have killed her, not purified.
I did ask about this at one point but, doesn't Selendis joining in purifying the colonists faster in comparison of them doing it alone? I mean sure it's a *Terran Thing* but I just wanted the possibility of having a full blown infestation where Raynor and Selendis contains it.
The protoss way of 'Purification by fire' is to literally slay EVERYTHING. Infested and clean. No one get's out. They've been known to sterilize entire planets simply because some Zerg were detected. Raynor doimg this means that some of the innocent survive
well, for those who think this choise is better than saving Heaven's colony: In the starcraft 2 lore panels at blizzcon 2010 and 2011 they answered these questions. The canonical choices are the A choices, so Raynor chose Tosh over Nova Raynor chose Dr. Hanson over Selendis and etc... + Jim saves Kerrigan from being zerg for 2 - 3 missions(of next company) :^) ,so saving people can be done
In real life situations i wouldve decided this too. Not going to risk another war with the protoss. But on the game i decided to save them even though her cure is bs. Zerg ultralisks adapt to even noxious and nuclear radiation. And you tell me you can make a cure?
Honestly i know the most logical and (starcraft way) was to pick purification since if protoss cant find a cure how can a terran find it ..... But in the end i picked to "cure it" (my second run and i prefer this imo) since selendis still respected jim and the dr survived so its like a win win even tho its cheesy with that love cure thing
with how Tosh told you the doctor is a honey trap and how it is strange her people keep caught up with the Zerg, i surprise there is no twist that she actually testing something on her own people.
This ending actually shows that is no cure for this virus - Hanson tests vaccine on herself and it didnt work. Befroe that mission, Gabriel Tosh saying that "she overly concerned about people and where they live, being an ordinary doctor". In the "good ending" she just leaves the ship and no one says about "cure"
Oh but when it’s Jim’s girlfriend Sarah it’s SOOOO different, even as she’s killed WAY more people of her own free will on some obsessively pointless quest for revenge against one guy.
I never fully understood if Ariel Hanson was infected already and wanted to create a cure for herself, and failed, or she locked herself in the lab and desperate to finda cure for her people tested one on herself and became infected.
I actually chose the to go against Selendis and chose to save the Colonists. Because after, the Colonists actually lived in peace. And the Scientist survived, liked that choice.
Siding with Ariel, always, because no matter what the situation is, they are your people, and regardless if the cure is found or not, you try to help them. Just burning everything to the ground is a seriously fucked up mentality and doesn't even work realistically. If the cure fails it fails, but at least you did everything in your power to help. Suffice to say, the Protoss approach is beyond horrifying, which is one of the reasons they are so limited, where as terrans have great potential, the creativity, effectiveness and the ability to adapt/evolve.
It always annoyed me how different the map is based on your choice. If you side with the protoss there is a full blown zerg invasion rapidly killing or infesting all of the colonists. If you side with the terrans there's like four infested civilians being kept in a cage.
It’s not the same area. If you side with the terrans you only defend the colonists that are not infected and leave the other colonists in the protoss version alone.
@@lonefish8128 So then you mean that there are multiple active hives on the world, you leave the uninfected colonists in the same area as the hives that you can save when you side with the protoss to be infected or die.
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CJake3 why did she get infested?
I choosed purifying way. Cuz protoss is more smarter than human.
"The only 'cure' for the Zerg infestation is purification by fire."
Firebats: "Go on..."
Need a light?
They removed firebats so there are only hellbats now
I can hear their voice right now
Are you trying to get invited to my baebecue?
Need a light?
Interesting how Ariel seems to retain much of her sanity even after becoming infested. Feels like she attacked Raynor more out of resentment than her nature as a zombie.
Both sadness and rage. And somehow in her last moments she tells him to just kill her. As if she has nothing to lose
Infested terrans sometimes maitain some consciousness but never free will. Remaind yourself how one of them asks to be killed in 2th mission.
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 es triste... pero la opcion correcta es la aniquilacion de los zerg de ese mundo y de los que cayeran ante la propagacion del virus no es que la mision esa sea matar a todos los refugiados ya que muchos se salvan pero no tendran donde recomenzar sus vidas en algun planeta libre y sobre la Dr Hanson Ariel bueno es un tema a discutir ya que ella ya estava infectada con el virus ya que en el planeta agria los zerg ya avian puesto nido hay mucho antes que enviara la ayuda en la radio... es posible que la doctora se aya topado con algun virus hay y la contrajo de algun modo.. ya que Tosh mismo dise que tiene un secreto que oculta en ella ya sea que se refiere que ya tenia el virus dentro de ella solo que nostros no supimos ni sabiamos incruso Jim... solo Matt Jorner pudo alertar que uno de los colonos o refugiados podria contraer el virus dentro pero esta fomenta que es imposible ya que todos estavan segun ella estan sanos a dicho sintomas
2nd not 2th@@madtechnocrat9234
Its also worth noting, she -just- got infected, her concious might possibly be still intact temporarily.
so it's fine when Jim does it, but when Arthas does it everyone gets all whiny.
superman32101 Arthas didn't live in space, that's why ^u^
Lo'trek Orphanmaker Actually Arthas did what needed to be done and his teacher Uther chosed to do nothing. The same about Jaina. They just betrayed Arthas.
Jim's friends knew how virulent and dangerous the Hyper-evolutionary virus was. Meanwhile Uther and Jaina just decided to go like " The disease kills people and turns 'em into undead ? Fuck it, just let 'em live a happy little life, we'll kill 'em later ". Basically Arthas did what had to be done, and his mentor and girlfriend turned him down.
Excuse me but what are you talking about...who is Arthas?
A character in Warcraft. Basically he discovered a disease that turns the infected in to Undead, and chose to slay 'em before that happen. His mentor and girlfriend criticized him for that.
"You're infested, you're dead already"....
Yeah right, Raynor would never say that to Kerrigan however...
I like how raynor simps to kerrigan to the point where he sides with the dominion and put all his raiders' life at hand just so he can slap that booty, he even mentions that he will stop his raid against mengsk for kerrigan alone
He's the typical hoes before bro guy.
This event happened before Zeratul led him down the path where it was clear that Kerrigan could be saved
On that time Raynor didnt know about "curying power of artifact". Poor stupid kids
@@servo-skull9450 I get your sentiment, but damn, gotta hand it to him for being loyal to the bitter end, even though such loyalty costed lots of lives.
"If the protoss with all their tech, psyonics and big freakin' alien brains couldn't do anything for 'em, there is nothing we could've done". Oh, c'mon! Protoss can't even heal their units properly, whatcha talking about?!
Not that they can't, more like they choose not to 'cause of balan-... honor or some bullshit like that.
@@deusex2005 There's a bunch of remarks in the Protoss research tree where they have all this advanced technology they could have done so much more with, but choose not to for some weird reason.
That, or they are so set in their castes and old ways that remained unchanged for millenia that most of their creativity has been snuffed out by rules and taboos. Artanis seems to do away with much of that by the end of LotV, at least.
The protoss teleports to safety when you kill them, few of them gets injured enough to be dragoons
The protoss doesnt rely on healing because they believe in their tradition that is bound by the Khala. Once they die, they will be reborn again and again.
@@infinitygauntlet101 How about repairing their damaged ship and building?
I honestly prefer this ending because it seems like the more logical scenario. The Zerg virus' key trait is it's ability to hyper adapt to virtually anything. I mean brood strains (leviathan) were even adapted for hyperspace. It just seems very optimistic to think that there would be a traditional "cure" for the infestation. Hell, it took an ancient Xel'Naga artifact just to mostly cleanse Kerrigan.
Keep in mind those xel naga got wiped out by the infant protoss and then the infant zerg, so they weren't all powerful. Not to mention Kerrigan was totally infested and had been for a long time.
To be honest I was prepared to purify the protoss first and then cleanse the infestation later if Ariel failed, was pleasantly surprised when she (Spoiler Alert) actually succeeded.
Did she rly?
@i hate anime Not so. They _mainly_ spread the virus through those means, but it's can also infect hosts via contaminated water supply. And yes, it's been specifically called a virus.
Now admittedly I needed to look it up on account of having never truly played SC1 (yet), but from what I've seen he's right.
The protoss developed anti-zerg nanites to cure Stukov all the way back in StarCraft 64. He was only re-infested because Duran recaptured him and reinfested him in the Moebius Foundation
yeah but if she was infected and inside the Hyperion... will be logical that others in the ship get infected aswell, but it didnt, and that makes no sense, everytime was just one person infected and whole infestation started, what a concidence that here not.
lol "the only cure to zerg infestation is purification by fire". Sounds like some warhammer 40k exterminatus to me 👍
lol, I know right! protoss are like the eldar with little imperial feel
Oh God, don't lure in the 40k fanboys, next you'll be hearing about how everything they hate is a 40k copy, even StarCraft!
lol didn't you know, Starcraft is just Dawn of War
JAZZYLEE RACER
Don’t tell the faithful to die heretic!
At any rate, there are “inspirations” taken from both sides.
@@rustkarl In truth Blizzard was originally commissioned by GW to create a Warhammer Game, but then GW scrapped the project and signed on with Relic. Blizzard had already made a good portion of the game and decided to push its release as its own company. This Release came out as Warcraft: Orcs vs. Humans. So Blizzard did take a lot of inspiration from Warhammer, so inspiration was more taken from one side than the other. Of course now GW are probably kicking themselves for releasing Blizzard like that (though less so now after that Diablo Immortal fiasco).
I like the other mission. You kill a ton of Protoss and destroy a planet destroying ship, and Selendis is just like "ok bro, catch you later"
Like arthur in rdr 2 after a heated discussion
"Well, ok catch u later den"
It's part of honor, like Selendis said, glorious combat, no hard feelings
@@ballsofsalsa01 Selendis tested him to see if he have a will to protect the people of Fringe world, unlike Dominion. For Daelaam would know that Arcturus' Dominion is asshole who doesn't matter even if the fringe world gets r*ped by Zerg.
@@ballsofsalsa01 Why did she considered Zeratul a Traitor, despite he has fought for the Koprulu and Protoss? Zeratul was the finest swordsman of the Protoss.
@@tomvhresvelg9286 because they betrayed the Khala
Hansen: "Can I take a sample of your brain tissue for study purposes?"
Me: *Clicks purify colony*
"The entire city must be purged"
Nice
@Alvi Syahri then I must consider this an act of treason
"You are not my Emperor yet boy, nor would I obey that command even if you were!"
"uther in the name of the dominion and Arcturus mengsk i court martial you and suspend your marines from service".
Ariel, not you too
This ending makes so much sense and adds the darker tone back into starcrafts story that was much needed after the cheesy bar room "mutiny" they hyped up when the campaign was teased. It also shows Jim is at least wrestling with the idea he may have to kill Kerrigan eventually.
As far as I'm concerned, Hanson death is canon.
@@keamu8580 As fara as I am concerned Tosh did not die while being a spiteful vodoo man to get back at Raynor, by Nova. Total BS.
@@aracelymoran2504 Tosh was a cool character, that ending for him was sort of a weak ending.
@@keamu8580 LOL, that ending (based on the "helping Nova" scenario) is NOT canon. No way no how. Should have ended with him giving Raynor a piece of his mind and marching off to whatever he was doing before hooking up with Raynor, and regrouping the Specters. Anyway, I chose "help Tosh" from the get go. Felt it was the Raynor thing to do.
How can you say no that sexy, sweet voiced, beautiful lady protoss?
Because the alternative is Liara T'soni.
@@Rikard_Nilsson beat me to it lmao
You weirdo
Ikr
That, that’s how/why I will say no 8:05 Protoss seem to make the Zerg threat worst
No easy way out. Tough moral choice, but given the situation putting those colonists out of their misery and sterilizing the colony is the only sensible path.
What irritated me is that it's always presented as a tough choice, but it isn't. If you side with Ariel then she comes up with a magic cure for the colonist and everyone lives, clearly a morally better choice. As for Tosh v. Nova, siding with Tosh reveals that Nova lied about the mental instability of the spectres, and together you can take down Mengsk. Siding with Nova, meanwhile, means that all the stuff you did for Tosh prior was pointless and you end up stabbing your ally in the back because your enemy told you to.
I wish there were some more ambiguity to the choices. They could have made the bad choices give you more research points, for example, or they could have made Nova/the Protoss argue a more legitimate point.
I didn't find it to be that tough of a moral choice. Your choices are either:
A. Hurt your relationship with the protoss to _maybe_ save a group of people who already had a 2nd chance.
B. Don't take any risks and just end their misery.
Personally, I'd rather have just let the protoss do all the dirty work (Hanson would maybe be more understanding that you don't want to piss them off, especially if she doesn't understand their power), but that would make the game boring.
It IS a tough choice. The Protoss are old friends of ours. They helped us out and we helped them out. So at first, it seems like the obvious choice.
However... if "purification by fire" is the ONLY cure, then why haven't the Protoss won yet? The Zerg are just as powerful as ever if not more so. With all due respect for the Protoss, but maybe it's time to change tactics.
The problem is that the immediate problem isn't fixable quickly.
What I don't like is not the endings but that it made it one or the other.
I would have liked to have made a compromise. Help the Protoss by eliminating out of control infestation while capturing some infested for Hanson to work on a cure.
@@chuchulainn9275 Old comment, but I shall pick up here:
The Protoss HAVE been winning against the Zerg infestation. On any planet they see with a trace of it, they pull a WH40K and Exterminautaus that planet, obliterating all life. The issue is the size of the Protoss relative to the planets of Zerg. The Protoss can't be everywhere at once, and no doubt they infest planets as quickly as the Protoss can nuke the crap out of them.
The world of Starcraft has always been that the Protoss are outnumbered, they are in no way going extinct, but their fight against Zerg is at minimum 20:1, and Terrans 5:1. Perhaps if the Terrans incorporated similar glassing technology on their ships like Battlecruisers, the Zerg virus could be eradicated, and after 5-10 years, Terraforming could bring the planet back.
@@Dragonspirit223
I'm sorry but 2 things.
1. The Protoss are NOT winning against the Zerg. In WOL, at the very beginning, Raynor tells Tychus, "They're still finding Zerg on Mar Sara despite the "purification" by the Protoss. Also, have you forgotten the Fall of Aiur?
2. The point you made the Zerg vastly outnumbering the Protoss only proves the fact that "purification by fire" is ineffective.
I went this route cause it just made more sense and Jim always goes on how he avoids fighting the protoss if he can avoid it and the protoss are like his bros and bros before hoes which is why I also sided with Tosh..
yeah fck Nova. I never even thought about siding with her because Tosh is such a great Charakter and I like him a lot overall
This dont make sense to Jim. He always try to help people. He doesn't give a fuck if he have to kill some assholes Protoss to save innocents civillians.
I sided with Tosh and Ariel. Destroying your own species is wrong to me
Hamonangan R. Sitompul he was perfectly fine with destroying them on meinhof, here he just stops the infestation before it gets to that level
I chose Protoss because I was seriously pissed off.
I knew that If I choose to side with Inconvenient Science Lady, the game would somehow be able to make her actually do it... Actually create a cure to the FREAKING ZERG VIRUS.
How ludicrous is that? Protoss, with several years experimenting, researching and analyzing of said virus couldn't do it. The best scientists of the Terrans couldn't do it. Hell, I suspect even Kerrigan/Abathur can't UNinfest someone. Suddenly this lady from a random ass planet of farmers that had no contact with Zerg is able to do it effortlessly out of the blue? Give me a break.
And there was enough time to conduct this research, ever since a command center was first infested on SC1, to the present time of the Haven crisis.
Can you imagine the ripple effect that a cure to the Zerg virus would have? How many Terran worlds would be saved because of that? It would be a complete shift in the balance of power. You might say "Oh, but Zerg would adapt to the cure or create a new virus" and for that I say, the speed of Zerg adaptability is much much MUCH faster then what you suggest.
The moment the cure entered the bloodstream and killed the first Zerg virus, the virus would start adapting to it. If Inconvenient Science Lady was able to bypass that fact with her cure, I'm afraid her's would be a completely unstoppable cure.
As for creating a new Virus... Thousands of worlds would have to be re-infected, but this time, the populace would be ready, trying to avoid infection armed with previous knowledge and experience on dealing with Zerg Virus Outbreaks. Giving Terran forces time to set up bunkers is the one thing you shouldn't do, ever.
In the campaign, we killed hundreds of Infected with 6 bunkers of firebats and marines, a couple of missile turrets and a squad of hellions. These are extremely cheap to acquire.
Siding with Inconvenient Science Lady expecting a cure while having to hold back the Protoss AND infected at the same time is also really stupid from Raynor. Losing favor with a race that's all about honor 'n shit for the life of some terrans while expecting a random ass lady to be able to develop a cure for the ZERG VIRUS. Raynor could very well fail this and get pinched between Zerg and Protoss, waiting for lady to do her thing which, realistically, she wouldn't.
So he would leave the planet with a kicked butt, saving no one, losing favor with Protoss, losing minerals and manpower. I suppose at least he would tap that booty.
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Compare it with the Protoss option.
The Protoss know that the Zerg Virus is an absolutely massive threat, and have been conducting mass bombardments on Zerg ever since SC1. Protoss have a rich culture dedicated to honor in battle yet for this particular kind of enemy, they decide to do long range bombardments and prevent close combat battle with such enemy.
This isn't a standard zombie outbreak, it's something even Protoss can be afraid of. It makes sense to start purging shit up believing no other race is able to do it as efficiently.
Raynor was equipped with something that the Protoss didn't knew, which was the fact that the colony was set up not a long time ago so there was still room for survivors, the infection hadn't gotten out of hand yet, there was still time to save some of the uninfected.
This is represented by the fact that the Zerg were still setting up Virophages to quick-start the infection process within the colony.
So he bargained with the Protoss and, in exchange for being able to save some of the uninfected, he would conduct the purge himself. Masterfully removing the Virophages before they could do stuff to the colonists, Raynor charged on with a large fleet of Vikings and ground troops to assault the hive clusters, removing the cancerous tumors from the colony and preventing full infestation, the cancer was still there sure, and Haven would have to be evacuated, but seeing all these benefits, I'd say that this was a pretty good deal.
Raynor not only saved a bunch of colonists through this but also was able to remove critical Zerg structures AS WELL as remaining on good terms with an Executor from the Protoss.
I don't know what the hell was Inconvenient Science Lady expecting from Raynor, you know, the man who went out of his way to save her stupid colony 2 times, no less. He was not going to do a massive genocide.
It's not like Raynor didn't care about them and not like he wouldn't try to save as many as he could, which he did masterfully. And Science Lady should have expected that from the guy who, you know, was an absolute veteran with Zerg battles and had an army. (How can someone THIS stupid be able to cure the Zerg Virus is beyond me)
Then she goes with this "Killing my children" crap. Hmmm, Lady, he killed infected and Zerg. This is not your standard zombie outbreak, but it is a Zombie outbreak and there's nothing we can do for those who are transformed and have tentacles coming out of their skulls. And that's why you'll die as well.
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In the end, I'm glad Inconvenient Science Lady died, there's always better booty somewhere else. I didn't know why she was on the Hyperion in the first place.
R.I.P in peace Inconvenient Science Lady, you will Inconvenience no one anymore.
First time I played this game, this was the choice I made. Because I get that the doctor was trying to help, but I thought that saving the infected would come bite the terrans in the ass in the long run. I mean, reverse engineering an infested human to be cured is next to impossible. And I was proven right at the final mission, cuz it literally to 3 ancient Xel Naga artifacts to "cure" Kerrigan from her infestation (and even then, she still had Zerg cells in her even tho she was back to being a human)
It dosent matter which you choose since realty warps itself around jim to make him always right, he would make a good telltale games character that way
It was possible to cure normal zerg infestation back in the first StarCraft. The N64 had an extra mission where you saved an infested Stukov and cured him using protoss anti-zerg nanites. He was then given to the Moebius Company to further research this cure.
Sadly, the Moebius Company is run by Dr. Narud. Who is actually Duran (duh) and re-infested Stukov and made sure this time he couldn't be cured. That's why Abathur said that Stukov is not a normal infested terran, that his dna is a mix of terran and zerg in such a microscopic level that even he couldn't replicate it. Stukov is more infested than the first Queen of Blades was.
@@EteamProductions Issue with that: As far as we know, Secret Missions are not full Cannon, and more Fan-service.
In the Starcraft Broodwar, Zeratul spotted the original Hybrids, and Dr. Narud (Was he Duran at that time? The guy has, like, 3-4 personalities). However, when he spotted the Hybrid in the Protoss Missions, he claimed 'who could have created such an abomination', even though he already spotted the creator. In the WoL secret mission, Raynor sees Mobius working on a invulnerable Hybrid, however he NEVER SPEAKS OF IT AGAIN. No conversation about it to Valarian (as far as I know at least), no speaking of it if such a thing is possible to other people (other than the usual conversations, but THOSE never go anywhere either).
My point is this: The games have Secret Missions, however they don't ever get confirmation as they aren't referenced outside of their own game (if, I don't know, Zeratul showed up at ANY TIME WITHIN THE 4 YEARS BETWEEN BW AND WOL AND JUST SAID "Hey, friend Raynor, just letting you know, I saw some Zerg/Protoss Hybrids the other day, just warning you, could be pretty powerful." THEN WE COUKD CALL IT OFFICIAL CANNON. I suppose him 'searching the stars' for his other Hybrids could be a reference, but he never directly references his findings anywhere, same with Jimmy Raynor, who almost dies to the Hybrids, but other than a few statements here and there, nothing cones out of it.)
My point is this: I haven't seen much evidence that the Secret Missions affect the main story, mostly because not everyone could get to it, and leaving some players wondering 'Hey, why are they referencing this thing that happened last game? I don't remember that?' And so they are more of a reward for exploring, and give a bit more information, but never lead anywhere. Because of this, I personally don't consider the Secret Missions Cannon. Ever heard of Shrodingsrs Cat? It's kinda like that, they could or could not exist, depending on what the player does, if they Beat the mission within 25 minutes, Zeratul learns about Hybrid. If not? Oh well, you did miss out on a tiny bit of lore, but not much else.
Effectively what I'm saying is this: The Anti-Zerg Nanites could exist, but they could also not. And because they don't mass use this after 4 years of it existing, I'd lean towards it either being a one time gig, too expensive to mass produce it, or Selendis (the right hand of Artanis) for some reason doesn't have access to it.
@@Dragonspirit223 Stukov literally references his relationship to Duran and the things he did to him on the last missions of the SC2 prologue. They're canon. Horribly written, sure, but canon.
@@EteamProductions I believe that was him talking about infesting and experimenting on him, but it's been forever since I played the Epilogue I could be wrong (I assume Epilogue because, as far as I'm aware at least, there's no Prologue)
"youre infested, youre dead already"
*hisses*
Lmao
A lot of people here are saying this ending feels like the more realistic, and better written outcome of the Haven missions. On that I agree.
One point I notice not being talked about though is Ariel's supposed miraculous victory in the other ending.
Everything is cured, everything is fine, not a single infested shows up (a sharp contrast from 99% infested Ariel in this ending), and then she tried to get Jim to stay and afterwards is never heard from again. Even the UNN broadcast is from one of what is reported as several worlds that have been settled.
It's perfect... too perfect. To me it reeks of a lie. Ariel didn't find a cure, by the time the mission select screen comes up she's already gone. She convinced Raynor to chase off the Protoss, and now the planet is hers to infest at her leisure.
To me, this isn't just the better written ending. It is the better ending, the one that actually saves lives.
On 7:51 it actually shows us that she injected herself with a virus to test the vaccine, and... it partially worked - she saves her mind (DNA mutation locked)
Holy shit that is pretty logical to me 👏👏
Well I always found it stupid that dr.ariel an Simple doctor representing an colony could find a cure for zerg infestation while Dominion researcher can't find a cure while having the best tech they can get for it I always went with protoss of purification with fire while yes the save colony after mission is good since it's makes the dominion weaker and more colony's become independent but they are technically exposing themself to more dangerous treat from like Tal'darim or zergs
They didn't stay in Haven, they left the planet and found another one, Ariel didn't cure the virus, she just had more time to keep working on a cure (one she may never find) and quarantined the infected with armed guards. She fell in love with Jim while working for him as a scientific assistant even testing and analyzing the materials Jim and Tosh were collecting even when Jim didn't ask her to, Tychus mentions that he realized that Ariel was attracted to Jim and tells him in a sarcastic way. In the event that Ariel has always been some kind of Zerg Queen, it only occurs to me that she was an experiment by Dr Narud but that would make more sense if Ariel had worked at some point in her career at the Moebius Foundation or if they had crossed paths at some point, and it would make little sense that the Zerg would attack Agria, and Ariel was asking for help, if i had to guess i'll say that Ariel have some kind of artefacto than atracts Zerg and she keep it as a secred
I don’t know how you got that ending, but I got one where she lives, doesn’t turn into a zerg and finds a cure
She looks like something straight out of dead space.
Who? Starcraft 2 dont nothing on dead space. The infested colonist are far less gory than necromorphs as well!
Twinkle twinkle little star
I like how Tosh is like a councillor after shit happens.
this is how you do choices in video games, it was just one mission but it felt big
Had to side with Selendis here... she's one fine fine protoss lady
hahahaha that psi booty
*Protoss research
Colin C she survives and her people just teleport away. Everyone survivesz
Colin C Aha. First time in my life i say: the ALIEN is PRETTY. Don't stare at me.
I sided with Selendis because I didn't want to tarnish Raynor's relationship with the protoss, and, because all the odds were stacked against Hanson. Her people were saved multiple times and she still had no definitive proof of saving them.
When you pick the other option, technically, you never actually find out if she discovered a cure, and to my knowledge you don't gain anything in the long run. So I wasn't really upset choosing Selendis.
Just realized she's also Liara from Mass Effect.
Wouldn't you know a thing or two about that, eh Commander?
SPOILER:
She's a Reaper Doomsday Device.
All the more reason to shoot her.
and also Lightning Farron from final fantasy XIII
Dang, huge credit to SC2, I knew Selendis was right, but I still made the choice to fight the Protoss here. Like, he wanted to protect and run away with the one-time Queen of Blades, for goodness sake.
But dang, making the tough choice, doing it himself rather than the Protoss, it's also so good. One of my favorite SC moments.
THIS was the Starcraft 2 I wanted. It's long, full of story, and with multiple choices. Then people whined on the forums that the game was too long, and we got the abominations that came after...ugh.
Wing of Liberty > Heart of Swarm
I and many I know didnt even play the last part, after Heart of the Swarm which was just.... yeah
Bee Waifu They're not as long and yes, it's sad to see decisions aren't there, but I hardly call them "abominations"
So....you wanted a campaign where zerg infest people making them act like zombies, burn in the sun like vampires and mutate like some resident evil creatures? No thanks, I prefer a sci-fi campaign that SC1 was. it wasnt flawless but atleast it was believable. Without prophecies, very ancient enemies and Kerrigan being transformed in each campaign.
nice bullshit. Wings of liberty opened a lot of side stories that were totally pointless for the story. I'm glad that HotS and LotV are more epic and plot-based.
Raynor: Ariel?
Ariel: I'm sorry Raynor i can't watch you do this.
:(
Warcraft 3 reference?
Lets change this a bit:
Jim Ray-nor: "Okay call off your fleet Selendis, this is a Terran thing"
Hanson: "What This isn't right!"
Selendis: "Very well" cuts monitor
Raynor: "Okay... yeah we're not fucking doing that, Hanson do your work, I can't believe they fell for that... lets take our time about this. Hey, Matt blow up a quillgore herd or something, so it looks like we're busy to buy us a few more hours"
I'm sure Selendis first made sure Jim did what he said before leaving.
I believe Protoss are not so gullible to fall for this.
I've played the single player campaign tons of times, but I can never get myself to choose this option or side with Nova. Why I care about the fate of virtual characters I haven't a clue, but I can never get myself to do it.
Same
This is why I can't stand with the Stormcloaks in Skyrim. Because in order to do so I have to betray Jarl Balgruuf, the first Nord jarl who welcomes and honors the Dragonborn and helps you find your feet in Skyrim and is just generally nice to you, and make him homeless. I can't be that callous to the man. I owe him too much.
I sided with nova the first time bc I legit thought Tosh was gonna stab me in the back at mission end.
After I found out he becomes a crew member, I started siding with him.
I prefer this option as really it makes no sense that the infestation just magically vanishes if you chose to fight the protoss instead and it would make more sense for Raynor to want to burn out the infestation in place of the protoss as he can save survivors while the protoss would burn indiscriminately and there just isn't time for Ariel to find a cure for the zerg infestation, if it weren't for the janky gameplay 'concession' by time Jim was done fending off the protoss and Ariel finished her research for better or worse the infestation would have consumed the whole colony.
Bad writing by blizzard really, poorly done.
Though his comment towards tychus again affirms my feelings on the choice "It was our own mess to clean up, don't give a damn what the protoss think."
I felt the Exact same way about the choices. the good ending even made me go "What??" a little when jim doesn't even feel bad about killing so many protoss.
I thought he got along with them and sort of liked them. honorable fight or not the good ending has you kill at least about 80 protoss.
Yeah during the Brood War campaign Fenix became a close friend on the battlefield, in fact his only friend really since Artanis wasn't really certain of Raynor's mettle until near the end and he learned to understand and respect the Protoss and those that got to know him did the same for humans. Even before then Tassadar took him under his wing in a sense when Kerrigan and her Cerebrate care-taker stranded his forces when they came to witness her initial rebirth into the swarm, rescuing them from Char with the aid of the Dark Templar and taking him on as an ally in the final strike against the Overmind, in effect Raynor and Horner owe their life to Tassadar, Zeratul and their respective Templars.
Apparently this is all meaningless to him though since killing hundreds of Protoss to save a bunch of zerg-infested dirt-farmers is wurth.
Also the fact that your save a whole shit ton of colonists from the virophages gets completely glossed over.
Raynor did take part in the Stukov missions on the N64, and as far as I can tell, they are considered canon (Though details appear to have been retconned, and Narud had Stukov reinfested afterwards).
So he is aware of the fact that infestation can be cured, as are the Protoss, but he should also be aware that the Zerg are also capable of evolving strains that are resistant to, or immune to cures almost as quickly as they are developed. What we see in the choice to spare the colonists is Raynor pitting his optimism in Ariel's ability to save this particular Colony vs the Protoss view that ultimately the pursuit of a cure is a futile endeavor.
It is good to leave Haven till the end. Ariel has info on all of the missions that can change your mind about the outcomes.
One of the genius strokes of this game is how it respects the player enough to show how either choice is, or could be justified given ambiguous circumstances. Having played games where the writers clearly favor one choice to the point of implying that the player is dumb for thinking differently, this was a refreshing choice that made alternate play throughs both interesting and gratifying.
this was such better ending than ridciulous idealistic romantic alternative ending. alternative romantic 'cheesy' cure ending is ridiculous considering Stsrcraft lore has made it clear there isn't any cure zerg infestation of Terran, so why would allof s sudden one scientist or Dr on a backward planet suddenly out of the blue find a magical cure
minibeast21 well, given that Dominion only tried to weaponize zerg, not cure them... Plus not every major breakthrough was made by some large group of scientists or big research center.
why not a ridiculous idealistic romantic alternative ending with selendis? I'd get that protoss booty
I have to agree with getting the protoss booty. And yeah, if there ever was a true cure for the zerg infestation then they would have found it already, remember there are millions and millions of cientists researching that and... well, I am pretty sure this is the "real" ending to that mission.
Uh ask Stukov
There was one cure (or at least seemed like that) for infestation. That relic that was used on Kerrigan. But I guess they can't use it anymore.
10:51 is that you Vol´Jin?
WREX?!?!? WREX?!?!?!
Urdnot Wrex TAZ DINGO!!
Taz Dingo is Zul'Jin's skill and he is a Forest Troll from Amani. Vol'Jin on the other hand is Jungle Troll.
But yea, taz dingo.
Taz'dingo literally just means "Victory" in Zandali or whatever the fuck. And I'm like 99% sure all trolls speak Zandali so ya know. Your comment is dumb.
How can old Vol'Jin help you?
8:03 First time I played, I almost fall from my chair XD
9:36 "DON'T SHOOT AT SCREEN" Hahaha
And in general, no fights in the bar.
Even 10 years later after my first playthrough, the final cutscene still gives me the chills
Every time I see sc2, its so nostalgic.
After 14 years, we didn't get anything better.
On the other hand, it's very good, the story should end. Don't need endless sequels.
We'd love to have that science ass but Protoss research babyyyy
legit same thing. gotta get my barracks drop pods
i know im late
elijahproto Same, lacking of Protos research. Also the choice made more sense.
Protoss are warriors, it was them or innocent civilians. No choice, slaughter them all in their beds.
FUmarc Actually, putting down the infected colony is more realistic.
i kept that mission 2nd to last because i wanted to see her comments on every other mission. So i choose the happy ending. Also the correct choice ultimately is to side with the spector not with nova. Nova fucks you at heart of the sworm anyways
becuz siding with tosh is canon, as is the good ending for this
Huh... I never thought about keeping her around to see her comments.
@@oniuserjh oh helping Ariel is canon? Than what happens after? does she find a cure and saves everybody? If so the one hots mission makes 0 sense... I always thought Selendis must be canon
@@serenityscall6658 I know this is 10 months old, but yes, helping is canon, but she fails, later you see that haven is firmly in zergs hands, so 2 options, o she failed, or zergs invaded again, anyway they are all dead, with Selendis you at least can save a part of the population.
@@TheOneroi Thanx a lot for answering even if it was 10 month old! Have a beautiful weekend Sir/Madam ^^
She probably infected herself in a desperate bid to experiment on herself to find a cure, figuring that it's a good thing no matter if she succeed or if she dies and make raynor feels guilty about it. Gotta say she is gutsy though. raynor got all the gutsy girls attraction!
There is no cure to zerg virus.
9:30 _Your best and only source for news_
uh-uh, so when it's some random Terran lady, you'll kill her. But when it's Kerrigan, you'd doom humanity. Thanks, Raynor.
After seeing the literal Apocalypse in first-row view which will happen if Kerrigan dies, you mean? Yeah, "dooming humanity" right there.
Sweet Home Alabama
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yea boii
Sweet Home Korhal IV
Yup, I know the song I play nowadays on guitar thanks to StarCraft!
This comment is way ahead of it's time.
I dunno man, the emotional impact of this harsh scene kinda falls flat when it's immediately followed by *I CAN BARELY WRITE MY NAME DUN DUN DUNDUN*
On the one hand, I prefer the classic grittiness of this version. It reminds me of Starcraft 1 and broodwar. On the other hand, I don't like the writing for Jim here. "If there was a cure, you would have found it by now." Um, no, it doesn't work like that, Jim. Science doesn't run on your schedule. Ideologically, I would be in favor of studying the zerg virus. Terrans weren't founded by men who say "impossible." You never know what might happen in science.
But the science wasn't exactly in their favor either. On a practical level, it looked like they were WAAAY in over their heads, ironically contrary to what we see in Safe Haven. It would have been easier to swallow Dr. Hansen's promises if we had some real results to look at, otherwise why are we defending people who are already growing tentacles out of their faces?
I don't know whether reality retroactively adjusts to whatever Jim chooses, or his decision itself causes the two missions to be different. Like, were the zerg laying low because they wanted help from Jim, and only let loose when they saw he was going to kill them? Or does the game just make whatever decision you make the correct one, so if you side with Selendis, good call! Those zerg would have screwed you if you if you sided with Hansen. Or if you side with Hansen, good call! We got these zerg contained nice and tight, so no reason to kill them when there's any chance to save them!
I'll put more thoughts on the other mission in that video.
Michael McCarty the Protoss are highly advanced, more advanced than the terrans by centuries. if they themselves couldn't find a cure, how could the terrans?
They couldn't find the cure because there was no need for it. There was no Infected protoss for centuries until terran appears then infected terran soon follow. Beside Terran and Protoss are biologically different, little chance for protoss to find a cure on terran or even if they care to.
Exactly. Hell Terran science on zerg infection is probably more advanced than the Protoss if only because the Protoss can't be infected by the zerg, merely play host to parasites. So since that's not a threat to them, they likely exerted their advances in other fields. So here, Selendis is outright wrong. Plus, she's templar, somehow doubt she's kept up with the advances of the Khalai since the Protoss are kinda arrogant that way.
actually no cure is much more realistic come to think of it
Imagine: if zerg actually dominating brain cells they can leave a unrepairable dmg that will do nothing but say "I serve" without their host... not walking, not moving, not thinking... it is possible
I mean even if you can kill all zerg in host body as cure you wont turn it back... wich makes much more sense.
Yea I hate this ending but this one is more realistic... even if zerg not doing what I said then first that about to get cured will send a signal that saying "they purging me from body!" others will kill brain of their host to trade 1/1
It more the point that Zerg evolve pretty fast, as soon as you find a cure and it used,it become obsolete .
I mean, Selendis is voiced by Cree Summer, the voice of Penny from Inspector Gadget and a ton of other characters from my childhood. How could I *not* side with her?
Because the alternative is Liara T'Soni.
I don't mind, I get protoss points.
And you can't cure infestation so rip.
This is how Liara becomes a Banshee... oh wait
the ending gave me the Starcraft horror vibe I was looking for since the Amerigo cinematic
Considering Stukov in co-op, the 2 newest co-op maps, and the lack of guarantee in the other route even if there was more time to "find a cure", there is more than just game-related reasons to pick this version. (game-related: finish all research early by getting protoss points since you start the game with 3 zerg points already; you don't need zerg research)
I love using Stukov in the Protect the coloney from infested missions. Fight Zombie with zombie.
You can just use the Zeratul crystal to max your protoss tech early
it's interesting & obvious Blizzard changed Selednis' design appearance from WoL to LoV
I've never not saved the colonists....creepy alternate story.
The fact the doctor turns into a horror-esk zerg.
Me: "Dr. Hanson? Are you all right, Doctor?"
Oh if we knew about that relics effects..
Keep in mind we don't kill everybody, just kill the infested who pretty much beg to be killed and the Zerg. We cut our losses and kill the rest. Protoss are too much trigger happy with purification, now if this was not Selendis but Tassadar - he got similar orders to purify the Terran worlds but refused, because exterminating everything with extreme prejudice was dishonorable to him. He was a true hero.
I always hated this choice but hey. WOL was very stingy with Protoss research this early in the game.
Late but the best part is if you want these 2 missions can be the last one before char
0:10 Doctor T'Soni, good to hear you alive and well! xD
Weird. I just played this game for the first time and chose the save option so I came here to check the other one. Seems weird gameplay wise not to have some infected colonist on the save option.
The way the Protos made it sound to me was "they have a tiny bit of zerg infection so we must purge them" but then right here they're super fully infected.
The game almost always tries to make you feel good with your choices.
Almost
the game basically treats it as if you are right whichever option you pick. If you say that you have to purge the colony, the doctor fails to find the cure, becomes infected herself while trying, and the colonies are only saved from being overrun by zerg by your quick action. If you say you can find a cure, then loe and behold, the infection takes a long time, you find a cure, and none of the colonists end up eaten by hydralisks.
Unless Hanson worked for the UED with their medics, there was no way she'd find an actual cure for Zerg infestation
I hope she makes her way to hots someday, zerg version of course
Its not canon. (And to anyone I'm 1 year late and a total nerd... )
Since 2010 I always wonder does that means Hanson was infested in the other timeline making Jim guilty of letting the infestation spreads through other planets?
the game just treats it as if you did the right thing either way. If you pick to purge the colony, Hanson failed and couldnt find a cure, and you did the right thing since otherwise they all would have been infested. If you pick to protect the colony, hanson succedes and the infestation isnt nearly as dangerous.
Its not a direct result of your actions, the story just takes a different turn to make sure you're justified either way.
If you look closely at her wrist in the save the colonist route, you would notice she was slowly becoming infested they were pretty much doomed.
@@gamechanger8908 where
RIP Ariel Hanson, the best Doctor in this game.
This scene scared me the first time i saw it
So Ariel was desperate to make the cure because of what Jim chose so she hastily injected herself to see if it works. Either that or she decided to suicide not being able to handle the death of her people. Maybe both. Ironic, the supposed logical scientist became the emotional.
appeared in my recommendation after 10 years ...
I was really shocked at this episode. :( geez.
Even protoss couldn't find the cure..then, you rely on a doctor just met by risking your team's life?
Keep in mind Protoss is zealous radical when it comes to something which spread really fast despite far advance technology they got
Selendis on the other hand in the same Protoss order which Artanis in so she wouldn’t mind fighting Raynor but rather think that as her test for valour
So I have a question, i picked the good ending, does that mean that the doctor will turn into a monster no matter what?
Kian Najmechi Nope. Either she kisses you goodbye and leaves or you kill her.
CJake3 I like how this game has a positive ending no matter what you pick :D
Kian Najmechi Well, either I misunderstood you or you misunderstood me. Your choice really matter: if you chose to help colonists - Ariel will live, if you purify the colony - Ariel dies by your hand.
CJake3 Oh thats true if you look at it that way, but on one hand, what if you chose to help the colonists and you ended up sending an infected ariel to a world where she ends up raising an army after deceiving you, which is why i asked "so wait if you decide to save the colonists, is she infected no matter what?
Kian Najmechi I see. If you saved the colonists, she finds a cure and she's ok. :) At least I understood the game plot that way.
I just realized that Ariel most likely has the same voice actor as Liara T'soni from the Mass Effect series... No wonder her voice felt familiar when I played the campaign recently.
Kerrigan is EDI.
Honestly, they should have just left out Infected Ariel talking. Takes away a good part of the horror aspect of infestation when she's blathering about children we've never heard of before.
She was infested by whatever zerg force was assaulting the planet, hence it saw the zerg planetside as it's children.
@@brynbailey5482 most probably she was referring to the colonists (if not infested colonists) as her children, not the zerg
The Story of Starcraft may be sucking me in to the point where I have to play the game. Blizz knew what they were doing slinging money at these cutscenes ... that is what these are right? Because it feels like a movie.
Jesus, this was 8 years ago and its actually happening now. (minus the zerg)
He kills infested Hanson but not infested Kerrigan and doesn't think "she's already dead" :V
cuz valerian comes out of nowhere and says "hey dude, that artefact can cure infestation"
Zeratul's vision.
Kerrigan is a special case. She’s not just infested, her DNA has been spliced to make her both 100% terran and 100% zerg. Unlike regular infested, she’s not just being controlled by a zerg parasite, she IS zerg.
Which makes the artifact even more bs because it would have killed her, not purified.
Kerrigan should’ve just been killed and the story ends with an even more Jaded Raynor. Because fuck the fluffy ending that actually occurs.
@@misspurdy27288 Haven't you played LotV?! Narud modified the keystone in a way that would cure Kerrigan.
I did ask about this at one point but, doesn't Selendis joining in purifying the colonists faster in comparison of them doing it alone?
I mean sure it's a *Terran Thing* but I just wanted the possibility of having a full blown infestation where Raynor and Selendis contains it.
The protoss way of 'Purification by fire' is to literally slay EVERYTHING.
Infested and clean. No one get's out. They've been known to sterilize entire planets simply because some Zerg were detected.
Raynor doimg this means that some of the innocent survive
well, for those who think this choise is better than saving Heaven's colony:
In the starcraft 2 lore panels at blizzcon 2010 and 2011 they answered these questions. The canonical choices are the A choices, so
Raynor chose Tosh over Nova
Raynor chose Dr. Hanson over Selendis
and etc...
+ Jim saves Kerrigan from being zerg for 2 - 3 missions(of next company) :^) ,so saving people can be done
PS: but thanks for showing this root, I never thought that she could become infected.
It was the rational choice, why fight against an ally in a war?
8:04 Jim Raynor: Oh god, not you 2...
In real life situations i wouldve decided this too. Not going to risk another war with the protoss. But on the game i decided to save them even though her cure is bs. Zerg ultralisks adapt to even noxious and nuclear radiation. And you tell me you can make a cure?
Honestly i know the most logical and (starcraft way) was to pick purification since if protoss cant find a cure how can a terran find it ..... But in the end i picked to "cure it" (my second run and i prefer this imo) since selendis still respected jim and the dr survived so its like a win win even tho its cheesy with that love cure thing
with how Tosh told you the doctor is a honey trap and how it is strange her people keep caught up with the Zerg, i surprise there is no twist that she actually testing something on her own people.
This ending actually shows that is no cure for this virus - Hanson tests vaccine on herself and it didnt work. Befroe that mission, Gabriel Tosh saying that "she overly concerned about people and where they live, being an ordinary doctor". In the "good ending" she just leaves the ship and no one says about "cure"
8:57 happy ending
Oh but when it’s Jim’s girlfriend Sarah it’s SOOOO different, even as she’s killed WAY more people of her own free will on some obsessively pointless quest for revenge against one guy.
I never fully understood if Ariel Hanson was infected already and wanted to create a cure for herself, and failed, or she locked herself in the lab and desperate to finda cure for her people tested one on herself and became infected.
If memory serves, if you let her and her people go, they'll get infested all the same. So, she was most likely infested by this point.
I actually chose the to go against Selendis and chose to save the Colonists. Because after, the Colonists actually lived in peace. And the Scientist survived, liked that choice.
I feel like it was just only you and me who made this choice... welp, looks like we’re outnumbered
@@drstrange5388 i like the horror atmosphere when u choose to purify them, but thats just sad, i Perfer to save the colony too
This game has Sweet Home Alabama in it? As a born & raised Bama-man myself, I am pleasantly surprised. A really good cover of it to boot.
Siding with Ariel, always, because no matter what the situation is, they are your people, and regardless if the cure is found or not, you try to help them. Just burning everything to the ground is a seriously fucked up mentality and doesn't even work realistically. If the cure fails it fails, but at least you did everything in your power to help. Suffice to say, the Protoss approach is beyond horrifying, which is one of the reasons they are so limited, where as terrans have great potential, the creativity, effectiveness and the ability to adapt/evolve.
According to HotS, he actually went against Selendis...
Maybe, but i have to pick that ending. You know, toss research is quite valuable (science vessel), to let it slip.
Same. Those Tech Reactor are too nice to pass up.
Gabriel Tosh did tell Jim that Ariel Hanson is sort of a "honey trap". It turned out to be true.
Tosh should have warned of Nova too
It always annoyed me how different the map is based on your choice.
If you side with the protoss there is a full blown zerg invasion rapidly killing or infesting all of the colonists.
If you side with the terrans there's like four infested civilians being kept in a cage.
It’s not the same area. If you side with the terrans you only defend the colonists that are not infected and leave the other colonists in the protoss version alone.
@@lonefish8128 So then you mean that there are multiple active hives on the world, you leave the uninfected colonists in the same area as the hives that you can save when you side with the protoss to be infected or die.
This entire colony must be purged
Player choice means nothing if the narrative rewrites it's own past to justify the player actions.
Woah. How did you get BOTH frames per second?
The dancing hollogram in the bar, afther the puriffication... night elf female :)
You know, i fell in love with selendis , thats why i chose this ending
Interestingly enough siding with Ariel has her being interested in Jim anyways XD
who ever voiced doctor Ariel didn't put much efort in the scene which Jim Raynor choose to purified the colony, she could really do a much better job
Tommy Cat That's Liara from Mass Effect! She was great!
This was the first route I took, it made more sense to not fight a Protoss ally.
such a horrible unplesant ending!
its so not Jim, to be so evil! I allways pick the Good Version!
Purification is the good version (joke)
Played the campaign several times, never had this happen. I did not even know it could happen!
I rejected Ariel Hanson cause I feel like she's annoying. 😂
I haven't played this game in a long time but I do remember picking Ariel's side led to a pain in the @$$ mission.
Wthell protoss doing i thought we jz assisting them doing their job in the end we doing the purifying
swordlink93 it's better than killing everyone
Tosh has a really good point, what if the collonists had gone to densely populatated planets, it could have been a disaster.